[00:01] <GH0> I upgraded to 12.10 Saturday, and have noticed that some of my sites are no longer working. A lot of these sites used proxy pass in the apache config. However, when I go to enable mox_proxy, it tells me there is no such module.
[00:01] <GH0> What do I need to go about getting it reinstalled?
[00:11] <thiss> hi does anyone know how to use xboot or yumi?
[00:38] <Scunizi> I have 2 printers installed.  One USB and one networked.  The USB printer is off but still plugged in and constantly shows as the default despite me changing it in the printer appelate and at http://localhost:631.  How do I eliminate the USB from showing as the default printer?
[01:31] <hydron> hello community
[01:32] <hydron> how to record my voice from command ligne please ?
[01:33] <hydron> just give me the name of the command, and I will search for options myself :)
[01:33] <DarthFrog> hydron: arecord
[01:34] <hydron> ok, thank you DarthFrog :)
[01:38] <xixor> cool, I didn't know that command
[01:38] <DarthFrog> xixor: There's also the complementary command, aplay.
[01:40] <hydron> yeah, that is working perfectly, thak you DarthFrog,
[01:40] <DarthFrog> You're welcome, have fun.
[01:41] <hydron> an other question, is there a possibility to combine arecord and avconv to record audio and video at the same time, in one video file ?
[01:41] <DarthFrog> I have no idea, sorry.
[01:41] <hydron> ok, thank you :)
[01:58] <hydron> how to start two process in the same time and in parallel ?
[02:00] <tsimpson> hydron: one way is: process1 & process2
[02:00] <hydron> ok thnak you tsimpson :)
[02:12] <zacarias> How can I set Dolphin to start minimized when I boot? It's easy to set it as a startup app, but how can I tell it to start minimized?
[02:23] <zacarias> How can I set Dolphin to start minimized when I boot? It's easy to set it as a startup app, but how can I tell it to start minimized?
[02:31] <tsimpson> zacarias: right click on the title bar for Dolphin, choose More Actions -> Special Application Settings. then click on the "Size & Position" tab and you can set it to be minimised by default
[02:33] <zacarias> tsimpson: Thanks!
[02:33] <tsimpson> it's one of those things that people don't know about, but can be really useful
[02:58] <cjae> anyone having issues with vlc losing sync?
[03:03] <xixor> notifications persisting, panels not showing up, windows mysteriously locking themselves into shade mode.  Yep.  Time for the daily KDE restart!
[03:05] <xixor> almost a full day too, a new record
[03:10] <jedihawk> xixor: haa!
[03:12] <xixor> pager not working, taskmanager working, unable to logout from within KDE, had to go to a console, stop my virtualbox vm, and restart ligthdm
[03:20] <jedihawk> xixor: modern technology for ya.
[03:24] <xixor> you know, I'm pretty impressed with KDE.. has a lot of features, very customizable, decent performance
[03:25] <xixor> but I've never found it that stable.  I've been impressed with 4.9.2, and 4.9.3 so far, definitely way more stable than I've experienced in KDE for years.  But my windows 7 box can run for weeks on end without batting an eye
[03:28] <voidcomp> running kubuntu in a vm?
[03:29] <xixor> no, kubuntu is the host
[03:29] <voidcomp> win 7 is running within the vm then?
[03:30] <xixor> no, win7 is the host.  I do have a win7 vm running in kubuntu though, that is rock solid stable as well
[03:30] <jedihawk> agreed; windoze has gotten much more stable.
[03:30] <voidcomp> 2  machines?
[03:30] <voidcomp> one hosting kub, the other win?
[03:31] <xixor> I have several machines
[03:31] <voidcomp> we all do :)
[03:32] <voidcomp> i must say i'm impressed with K.  Just installed it.  My other boxes have Mint and Centos 6
[03:32] <xixor> however, the machine in question is an i7-920 desktop, I built it around 3 years ago.  It's been running windows 7 64 for years, and a combination of debian and kubuntu, but mainly windows
[03:33] <xixor> voidcomp: I hate all operating systems, especially linux
[03:33] <xixor> voidcomp: some just suck a little bit less at some things than others
[03:35] <voidcomp> running 24/7?
[03:35] <xixor> what do you mean?
[03:56] <jedihawk> xixor: which is more stable, gnome or kde?
[03:57] <xixor> jedihawk: no idea, I haven't used gnome in years and years.  I remember using gnome 2 when it first came out, and it was a huge deal.  I even tried to learn how to program in gtk, and absolutely hated it
[03:57] <jedihawk> hum
[03:57] <nine_> both are very stable now
[03:58] <nine_> kde is more customizable so it is also easier to break
[03:58] <xixor> unity is based on gnome3, right?  or something like that?
[03:58] <nine_> I have not had a crash issue with any
[03:58] <nine_> kde just needs more tweeks for every user
[03:59] <tsimpson> KDE doesn't _need_ tweaks, it just has that option
[03:59] <tsimpson> most users find the default setup perfectly workable
[03:59] <nine_> unity is baised in  ubuntu, both unity and gnome 3 are shells that run on the 12.10
[04:00] <nine_> agreed to a point tsimpson
[04:00] <nine_> if ur using mint kde
[04:00] <tsimpson> I've never used mint, I'm happy with Kubuntu thanks :)
[04:00] <nine_> me too
[04:00] <nine_> I love kubuntu
[04:00] <DJ_Unibob> I use the default scheme for KDE, though I do change the window settings from time to time though
[04:01] <nine_> but start pluging in other monitors vs ubuntu and the double click thing and many don't like kwallet and mant don't use 24 hour clocks
[04:01] <DJ_Unibob> The only issue I have with kubuntu is a samba issue
[04:02] <nine_> samba?
[04:02] <xixor> tsimpson: do you have large amounts of user data to backup that claim that most users don't need tweak?  Just curious if you have quantitative numbers
[04:02] <nine_> mine workds great
[04:02] <DJ_Unibob> Networking with windows
[04:02] <nine_> what is the issue dj?
[04:02] <tsimpson> xixor: personal experience
[04:02] <DJ_Unibob> This machine I'm on runs Windows 7, as it's both a media/storage and gaming rig.  My laptop runs kubuntu 12.10
[04:02] <tsimpson> I have no spreadsheets
[04:03] <DJ_Unibob> When I try to access any shared media, I get an "SMB Network Protocol not found" message and it fails to open, even with proper credentials
[04:04] <nine_> and u installed the correct samba?
[04:05] <DJ_Unibob> Just the one that shipped with 12.10, haven't looked for any optional versions just yet.
[04:05] <nine_> yea
[04:06] <nine_> go to a folder  maybe a share folder/click share/it will prompt u to the compatable samba
[04:06] <nine_> install
[04:06] <DJ_Unibob> I've googled the issue though and it seems to be a KDE/Kubuntu issue.
[04:06] <nine_> hmm...  i have had no problem on my server networks
[04:06] <xixor> how does dolphin mount samba shares?
[04:08] <nine_> click network/double click "Add network folders"/add correct proticalls and addresses
[04:08] <DJ_Unibob> I'll have to boot the laptop up here shortly.
[04:08] <nine_> then in menu type share, and add the profile and pass word needed to access the specific network
[04:11] <DJ_Unibob> Sounds like a pain, almost like setting up a corporate network, but I'll give it a shot.  Does this only have to be done once or on each start?
[04:13] <DJ_Unibob> I think I'll work on that task tomorrow though.  I think I messed up my shoulder in league bowling tonight, so I'm going to call it a night once the pain meds kick in.
[04:18] <nine_> once on each start?
[04:19] <nine_> it needs to be done once on each log on used
[04:19] <DJ_Unibob> Alright.
[04:19] <nine_> then unless u change tihngs it will be set for that specific network
[04:20] <DJ_Unibob> roger.  :)
[04:20] <nine_> only issue i have had with the dolphin side is any saving inside the share folders from other computer/servers will be met with a prompt to upload when one exits the item saving in
[04:22] <nine_> example if I save in a spread sheet, it will do the save motions, but will not actually save my work till I exit that spread sheet, then I will be prompted with an upload or cancel optionm
[04:23] <nine_> u need to obviously upload or all ur work changes will be lost
[07:02] <moonvoniron> hi there
[07:03] <OerHeks> hi moonvoniron
[07:03] <moonvoniron> happy to be here
[07:04] <hateball> :)
[07:04] <moonvoniron> it's my first time with linux !
[07:04] <hateball> Hope you'll find it a pleasant experience then
[07:05] <moonvoniron> Yes :)
[07:13] <moonvoniron> quelqu'un parle Fançais?
[07:14] <hateball> !fr
[07:17] <jedihawk> I ran usb-creator-kde and it immediately crashed and launched the kde bug reporter tool. :-(
[08:53] <vbgunz> Whats the easiest way to manage humble bundle titles on Kubuntu? I thought the ubuntu store would make things easier but I am not sure where to start? software-center?
[09:07] <noaXess> hey all
[09:08] <noaXess> i use latest skype v4 ad video is vise versa.. in cheese it is correct.. any hint to get i correct?
[09:26] <mime_1111> hey ppl. flash only works correctly using my browser as admin, any help plz?
[09:26] <mime_1111> ive tries all
[09:26] <mime_1111> tried
[09:26] <mime_1111> wallkarrounds, installing stable, unstable, gnash and lightspark
[09:27] <mime_1111> also downgrades from firefox, flash and all
[09:27] <mime_1111> but flash only works correctly as admin
[09:27] <mime_1111> any help? thnx
[09:28] <hateball> Your browser, being Firefox?
[09:28] <hateball> mime_1111: ^
[09:28] <hateball> mime_1111: Define "works correctly"
[09:28] <mime_1111> well, any of them, ive got chromium-brow, fire, kon, rekonq,
[09:29] <hateball> mime_1111: Which version of Kubuntu, and what cpu-arch ?
[09:30] <mime_1111> unstable maximising window, no thumbnails, very unstable and crashy very frequently, no speed at 100x100
[09:30] <mime_1111> very slow browsing generally!
[09:30] <navlelo_> seems like youre having issues with your video driver
[09:31] <hateball> Well, Flash is terrible. So there's that.
[09:31] <hateball> But again, version of Kubuntu and cpu-arch will help some
[09:32] <mime_1111> kubuntu 12.04, ive got 35 and 36, no updated due to sound problems
[09:33] <hateball> mime_1111: are you on 32-bit or 64-bit
[09:33] <mime_1111> flash sarts like that after erasing cookies, historial, and tmp files
[09:33] <mime_1111> 32 soz
[09:34] <hateball> hmm, well then apt-get should pull in the latest proper flash, so that's strange then
[09:35] <mime_1111> yeah, and flashogot does it work... but just using the browser as admin works perfect!
[09:35] <mime_1111> it is a pitty
[09:36] <mime_1111> maybe flash is installed in a way only admin can use hardware acceleration or properly flash? a way to change permissions?
[09:37] <mime_1111> ive been walking around, and ppl with same problem solve it, but with rpm and fesora i think
[09:37] <mime_1111> fedora
[09:38] <almoxarife> these flash problems do not exist on opensuse
[09:38] <mime_1111> yeah but in  open suse maybe they are other inconvenients, as not so many packages
[09:38] <almoxarife> and i see people complaining about flash much more lately
[09:38] <hateball> Yeah well, I hardly think switching distro is a proper way to attack the issue. Flash works as fine as it can for me on 12.04.
[09:38] <hateball> Flash is just awful, that's how it is
[09:39] <almoxarife> mime_1111: i doubt that :)
[09:39] <mime_1111> man, dolphin-emu was old, but stable
[09:39] <almoxarife> still, why fight it, use chromium, no more flash issues
[09:40] <almoxarife> mime_1111: you mean dolphin kde 4.9.3?
[09:40] <mime_1111> i use to use chromium, but the same, i tired to switch at a problem, want to solve it, was working in same config 4 days before. and 1 thing, i love suse
[09:40] <mime_1111> no, dolphin-emu
[09:41] <hateball> Using Flashblock does wonders as far as flash crashing goes
[09:41] <mime_1111> well ppl thnx 4 ur time, may go now, cya
[09:41] <almoxarife> oh, a kiddy game
[09:41] <hateball> Not using Flash at all works well for me as well.
[09:41] <mime_1111> how i see on utube videos?
[09:42] <mime_1111> no, a gamecube and wii emu
[09:42] <mime_1111> im young!
[09:42] <almoxarife> mime_1111: install xbmc, insure you have the youtube-plugin, problem solved againnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[09:42] <mime_1111> and for example a flash chat?
[09:43] <mime_1111> ...
[09:43] <almoxarife> flash chat? no do flash chat
[09:43] <mime_1111> hahaha
[09:43] <hateball> mime_1111: you can enable html5 on youtube, that should work around flash for the most part
[09:44] <OerHeks> mime_1111, solution: enable html5 in youtube ( only for youtube)
[09:44] <OerHeks> hateball +1
[09:44] <mime_1111> k, never clicked on yes when asked
[09:44] <almoxarife> hateball: yeap, thats what i keep saying, chrome/chromium, or rekonq/konkeror
[09:45] <mime_1111> cya in a while, ill comment the changes ppl, thnx 4 ur time
[09:47] <almoxarife> oh dear, managed to to break the spell checker in konversation
[10:10] <jovando> Hi, i have a problem with ubuntu - mein mauspad am laptop wird nicht erkannt
[10:10] <jovando> kann mir da jemand helfen bzw. duch die wege führen
[10:11] <jovando> ?
[10:12] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[10:13] <jovando> hallo? kann mir jemand mit meinem touchpad weiterhelfen??
[10:13] <jovando> Es wird nicht von Ubuntu erkannt....
[10:14] <jovando> beim befehl synaptiks kommt ein bug fehler
[10:14] <jovando> ist jemand da??
[10:16] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[10:20] <jovando> what is the command to see my actual ubuntu version???
[10:20] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[10:21] <BluesKaj> jovando, lsb_release -a
[10:21] <jovando> thx
[10:21] <noaXess> what to install to get 32bit apps runnint on a 64bit system? like skype and video?
[10:22] <noaXess> ia32-libs?
[10:22] <BluesKaj> noaXess, usually ia32-libs , unless you can find 64 bit versions of the apps
[10:23] <noaXess> BluesKaj: it's skype.. a file `which skype` does output 32-bit
[10:23] <noaXess> BluesKaj: and priblem on 12.04 is skype video, wich is upside down
[10:24] <BluesKaj> does skype not run on your system , because my system is 64 bit and ran skype on it a yr ago
[10:24] <BluesKaj> noaXess,^
[10:24] <noaXess> seems it is.. cause on one machine ia32-libs is installed and skype works with video .. and on other not.. so.. hope.. crossing fingers..
[10:25] <BluesKaj> haven't bothered with it for a while
[10:25] <BluesKaj> noaXess, ok
[10:25] <noaXess> BluesKaj: maybe you also have ia32-libs installed
[10:25] <BluesKaj> yeah , most likely
[10:25] <noaXess> btw. BluesKaj whasup? ;)..
[10:26] <BluesKaj> not much , insomnia for one ;)
[10:26] <noaXess> so the song from faithless ;)
[10:26] <BluesKaj> but I'll probly have a long nap later today
[10:26] <noaXess> jep.. i know that feeling..
[10:27] <alsitnetpc> hallo, here.....it didnt....okay
[10:27] <BluesKaj> gawd what's with all the netsplits
[10:27] <hateball> BluesKaj: Check the global messages ;)
[10:27] <BluesKaj> alsitnetpc, ??
[10:28] <alsitnetpc> good bye....okay.
[10:30] <noaXess> what is it, if sound level goes back to 100% after a reboot?
[10:32] <BluesKaj> what was it set at previous to the reboot ?
[10:43] <noaXess> BluesKaj: about 50%
[10:43] <noaXess> or something else
[10:49] <hydron> is it possible to download a file from internet to an FTP server directly ?
[10:55] <BluesKaj> hydron, if you have remote access to the server with ssh/scp  with user/pw permissions
[10:55] <hydron> That's the problem, I have no ssh access, just FTP :-(
[10:56] <AKnot> Is kubuntu using alsa or pulseaudio?
[10:56] <BluesKaj> AKnot, both
[10:57] <AKnot> i have white noise sometimes.When i start a video it i have it for 1-2 seconds then it goes away
[10:58] <BluesKaj> they aren't mutually exclusive , alsa is the base audio system on kubuntu
[11:00] <BluesKaj> hydron, can you copy the file to your ftp server , send it over to the remote
[11:01] <hydron> I have a bad internet connexion, and the file is bigg
[11:01] <BluesKaj> AKnot, pulseaudio works as an input and output director of audio signals
[11:04] <BluesKaj> hydron, your issue isnt really a kubuntu question, perhaps a networking chat can server you better
[11:04] <hydron> yes, you're right, thank you
[12:13] <AKnot> great, yesterday my ps3 controller worked, now it doesnt. wtf is this shit
[12:14] <tomatopotato> made in china
[12:17] <AKnot> i bet it works on windows
[12:19] <tomatopotato> who knows
[12:33] <AKnot> Now it works again but the emulators play at 3fps <3333 i love computers <3333333333333
[12:44] <tomatopotato> combine them with hammers
[13:50] <HB> hi guys, I haven't really ever played with this, do we all just hang out or is there any merrit to this ie: support, social etc
[13:55] <simplew> yofel: have you done dkms packages?
[13:55] <yofel> no
[13:55] <Pici> HB: This is a support channel. There is an offtopic (social) channel at #kubuntu-offtopic (and also #ubuntu-offtopic)
[14:01] <hateball> Hmmm, I have libqalculate5 installed yet krunner keeps crying about that it cant find ~/.qalculate/<stuff>.xml
[14:02] <simplew> yofel: do you have a realtek wifi card?
[14:02] <yofel> an rt2860 IIRC in my eeePC
[14:04] <simplew> yofel: thats an acronism for what?
[14:05] <yofel> hm, wait, that's ralink, not realtek
[14:06] <yofel> and 2860 is the chipset
[14:06] <tomatopotato> hrmm cant modify grub.cfg any idea why?
[14:07] <tomatopotato> im logged in as root tough
[14:07] <simplew> tomatopotato: run grub-install
[14:07] <yofel> tomatopotato: it's generated by update-grub
[14:07] <yofel> simplew: that installs grub
[14:07] <tomatopotato> i need to add just a kernel flag
[14:07] <simplew> yofel: update-grub its just a script to run grub-install
[14:07] <yofel> tomatopotato: edit /etc/default/grub
[14:07] <tomatopotato> thnx
[14:08] <tomatopotato> ill try that
[14:08] <yofel> simplew: no, it's a script to run grub-mkconfig
[14:09] <simplew> yofel: yeap, my bad
[14:09] <yofel> tomatopotato: add it where it says 'quiet splash', then run update-grub as root
[14:09] <tomatopotato> should i add it in quotes?
[14:10] <yofel> inside the quotes, yes
[14:11] <tomatopotato> s you mean like "quiet splash pci=nomsi" or "quiet splash" "pci=nomsi"
[14:11] <yofel> former
[14:12] <tomatopotato> so that means this one "quiet splash pci=nomsi" sorry my english is not that good
[14:12] <yofel> yeah, that's right
[14:12] <tomatopotato> and then run update-grub?
[14:13] <yofel> save the file and run update-grub as root
[14:13] <yofel> that'll refresh grub.cfg
[14:13] <tomatopotato> update grub or grub2?
[14:13] <simplew> yofel: in what sittuations apepars in plasma panel an icon "System Notifier Helper" saing to restart the system?
[14:13] <yofel> take the grub2 one
[14:13] <yofel> but I think there's no difference between them these days
[14:13] <tomatopotato> you suer? im running xubuntu
[14:14] <simplew> tomatopotato: there are
[14:14] <simplew> tomatopotato: its grub2
[14:14] <yofel> simplew: that's the kubuntu-notification-helper. Usually triggered by kernel updates
[14:15] <simplew> yofel: weird, werent isntalled any kernel packages
[14:15] <yofel> kdelibs maybe? I know that was fixed to also trigger a notification now
[14:15] <yofel> not sure if you can find out *why* you need to reboot
[14:16] <simplew> yofel: last installed packages: libssl0.9.8,samba ,tdb-tools
[14:17] <yofel> if it's not kernel or kdelibs I don't know why it would want a reboot
[14:18] <derron> Hey Obsidian
[14:18] <simplew> yofel: its not the first time that notifier icon appears without apparent reason
[14:20] <simplew> yofel: how can i delete a package from a ppa?
[14:20] <yofel> from your system or in the ppa?
[14:22] <derron> Obsidian1723: Question....
[14:23] <TheLordOfTime> simplew, if within the PPA... https://launchpad.net/~USER/+archive/PPANAME/+delete-packages      But it'll not accept the same version upload again, unless the PPA system's changed and I havent seen it.
[14:23] <TheLordOfTime> (replace the CAPTIALIZED terms accordingly)
[14:24] <yofel> TheLordOfTime: it will accept the same version again after the janitor cleaned the sources.
[14:24] <yofel> (if it weren't still broken)
[14:24] <TheLordOfTime> yofel, really?  when's that happen?
[14:24] <TheLordOfTime> yofel, its *NEVER* done that for *ANY* PPA ever i've run
[14:24] <TheLordOfTime> emphasis on ***NEVER***
[14:24] <yofel> ok, I think I mixed something up
[14:25] <TheLordOfTime> yofel, if i upload package-1.0-0 and it fails and i delete it and i update it it won't accept 1.0-0 again.
[14:25] <TheLordOfTime> i've seen this in the nginx team PPA as well
[14:25] <yofel> it'll accept the same tarball again, but perhaps not with the same version
[14:25] <TheLordOfTime> just to fix a FTBFS issue we have to bump the ~ppa# part
[14:25] <simplew> yofel: im not understanding
[14:25] <TheLordOfTime> simplew, we need details i think of what you're trying to accomplish
[14:26] <yofel> TheLordOfTime: yeah, I think got that mixed up
[14:26] <TheLordOfTime> yofel, yes, the same tarball again (it requires that iirc)
[14:26] <yofel> it will accept the same upstream version with different tarball contents, but probably requires a different debian revision
[14:26] <TheLordOfTime> simplew, what's your goal here?
[14:27] <TheLordOfTime> simplew, what's the goal with deleting from the PPA?
[14:27] <simplew> i want to remove a package from a ppa
[14:27] <TheLordOfTime> permanently?
[14:27] <simplew> yes
[14:27] <TheLordOfTime> or so you can reupload it?
[14:27] <simplew> perm
[14:27] <TheLordOfTime> if you have no intention of ever reuploading that source package, then use the link structure i gave you
[14:27] <TheLordOfTime> https://launchpad.net/~USER/+archive/PPANAME/+delete-packages
[14:27] <TheLordOfTime> replace USER with whatever username or team username owns the PPA
[14:28] <TheLordOfTime> and PPANAME with the PPA url part
[14:28] <yofel> you can just go to the ppa page, click on 'view package details' on the right, then there click on 'delete packages' on the right
[14:28] <TheLordOfTime> for example: if i were deleting from the NGINX PPA, it'd be https://launchpad.net/~nginx/+archive/stable/+delete-packages
[14:28] <TheLordOfTime> that too :)
[14:28] <simplew> it would be easier if there existed a link in the launchpad PPA page to delete packsages
[14:28]  * yofel usually does the same as TheLordOfTime, but that takes a while to get used to ^^
[14:28] <TheLordOfTime> it does?
[14:29] <TheLordOfTime> read what yofel just said
[14:29] <TheLordOfTime> or are we being ignored, yofel?
[14:29] <TheLordOfTime> <yofel> you can just go to the ppa page, click on 'view package details' on the right, then there click on 'delete packages' on the right
[14:29] <yofel> dunno ^^
[14:29]  * TheLordOfTime walks off to yell at his blog for not working
[14:29] <simplew> i missed that part, sorry, ill try that
[14:30] <simplew> yofel: yes now appears a link to delete, thanks
[14:31] <simplew> yofel: by the way, did you managed to isntall knm?
[14:31] <yofel> install yes, but only tried it in a chroot
[14:31] <simplew> yofel: and you managed to run X from chroot?
[14:32] <yofel> no
[14:32] <yofel> well, I know already that it's fixed in master there
[14:32] <yofel> I don't need to try it
[14:32] <simplew> yofel: theres things changed, new payout
[14:33] <simplew> now you have a button to disconnect wifi, much better now indeed
[14:34] <yofel> 0.9 has that too, just a bit oddly placed
[14:34] <yofel> the plasma UI is a bit jumpy though when opening the details pane :/
[14:34] <simplew> yofel: thats the one packaged in ubuntu or its another version packaged?
[14:35] <yofel> 0.9 is the one that's packaged
[14:35] <simplew> i never managed to see any button to allow disconecting wifi network
[14:35] <yofel> hm, and I already found a but in master. My IP isn't 0.0.0.0
[14:35] <yofel> *bug
[14:36] <simplew> yofel: hu? where can you see the ip?
[14:36] <yofel> simplew: see the red x? http://yofel.dyndns.org/pics/ext/pnm.png
[14:37] <yofel> simplew: if you're connected to a network, click on it and it'll open the connection details
[14:37] <simplew> yofel: yeap, got it
[14:38] <simplew> but mine is 0.0.0.0
[14:38] <yofel> as I said, bug
[14:39] <simplew> yeap
[14:39] <mparillo> Question about Okular...it seems that it (unlike Acrobat Rader) allows you to save your entries to any fill-in PDF form, but the entries are only visible to Okular, that is, you cannot save them so they are visible to other PDF viewers, like evince. Ist that correct?
[14:41] <simplew> yofel: agora acerca about packaging, in rpm spec if want to not pack some files we add a line like "%exclude /usr/bin/foo" where the files are listed, or instead in %isntall part we add a line "rm -fr /usr/bin/foo", and in debian hows that achieved?
[14:42] <mime_1111> hey ppl. in my dolphin context menu, ill see two identical entries, for example ''kate'', but one is not working, aby way on how to rid the crappy ones? thnx ppl
[14:42] <mime_1111> any
[14:43] <simplew> yofel: im asking this because i saw that in knm the devel files were not packaged, but i still didnt get how was it done
[14:43] <yofel> simplew: you simple don't add them to the install file
[14:44] <yofel> *simply
[14:44] <simplew> yofel: uau, in rpm we always need to specify what to do, else it will output that X fiels were not packaged
[14:45] <yofel> if you want everything *except* one or two files, you'll either need to explicitely put everything else in the install file, or override_dh_install and use rm
[14:45] <yofel> latter would be the dirty method
[14:46] <mime_1111> ok ppl maybe manually at : ~/.kde/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus/replaceicon.desktop /1/, /2/:
[14:46] <BluesKaj> are there any streaming alternatives to VLC for a local network ..been searching for a server/player , but nothing else seems to be available ..VLC is just not working for me streamwise.
[14:46] <mime_1111> well ~/.kde/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus
[14:46] <mime_1111> it is another one, but the difference is that u see the download in cache in % an speed
[14:48] <simplew> yofel: so i need to review knm
[14:49] <simplew> yofel: why is there a plasma-widget-networkmanagement.lintian-overrides  and what for?
[14:50] <simplew> yofel: and why plasma-widget-networkmanagement.postinst is triggering  /usr/share/update-notifier/notify-reboot-required ?
[14:51] <yofel> there is a program called 'lintian' which is run by debuild and looks for obvious packaging mistakes, a .lintian-overrides tells lintian that something is being done intentionally and that it shouldn't print a warning
[14:51] <yofel> simplew: dunno, check the changelog and see why it was added
[14:52] <simplew> yofel: is possible to see all the files that are generated in make isntall?
[14:52] <yofel> uh, make install should print what it installs by itself
[14:52] <n0ti0nis> hi all
[14:54] <simplew> yofel: yes, but i would like to check that after the package is done, is possible?
[14:54] <BluesKaj> is becoming a dev chat :)
[14:54] <yofel> you can see the package contents with dpkg -L <pkg>, or dpkg-deb -c <debfile>, otherwise only the build log will tell
[14:54] <yofel> BluesKaj has a point there...
[14:54] <simplew> yofel: lets imagine theres a new version that will produce more files, i would need a way to check that
[14:55] <mime_1111> sorry is more in/usr/share/kde4/services/
[14:56] <simplew> or if im packaging anew source, i would need to know the produced files to be able to list them
[14:57] <yofel> there is list-missing for that, why is for me being triggered by a pbuilder hook.
[14:57] <yofel> put https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/pbuilder/pbuilder-hooks to ~/.pbuilder-hooks and add
[14:57] <yofel> HOOKDIR="$HOME/.pbuilder-hooks"
[14:57] <yofel> to your ~/.pbuilderrc
[14:57] <FloodBotK1> yofel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:57] <yofel> geh
[14:58] <BluesKaj> Hey guys , I was chastised for asking a non devel question at #kubuntu-devel , I think the rules of this chat should be respected as well
[14:58] <yofel> true, let's move somewhere else
[14:58] <simplew> yofel: whats the packaging channel name?
[14:58] <yofel> #ubuntu-packaging
[14:58] <simplew> ok
[14:59] <BluesKaj> thankyou ..it's less intimidating for new users this way
[15:00] <yofel> yeah, thank for reminding us
[15:00] <yofel> *thanks
[15:00] <BluesKaj> :)
[15:02] <egadw> Any patch out there who fixes https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=309787 ?
[15:14] <yofel> egadw: no, seems like it's still being worked on
[15:15] <BluesKaj> egadw, seems to be ok here , any particular app or is affecting all apps ?
[15:16] <yofel> I can reproduce it with ksnapshot at least
[15:16] <yofel> though, typing 'konso' to open konsole doesn't work either
[15:17] <egadw> BluesKaj: Krunner trying to open thunderbird, firefox, konsole et c
[15:18] <BluesKaj> egadw, have you updated and upgraded lately ? I have to ask .
[15:22] <egadw> BluesKaj: KDE hasn't been updated since I added the kubuntu ppa
[15:23] <BluesKaj> egadw, ok run an update and upgrade , there have been some changes
[15:27] <egadw> Neither dist-upgrade nor upgrade shows any updates packages after I ran a apt-get update
[15:48] <FlashDeluxe> hi! i am running dist upgrade on command line on a pc, how can i connect to this tty via ssh?
[15:49] <bazhang> FlashDeluxe, dist-upgrade? that does NOT change versions, you realize
[15:50] <BluesKaj> ssh is for a different computer on your network , not for a tty , ctrl+alt +F1 for the tty
[15:50] <BluesKaj> FlashDeluxe,^
[15:51] <FlashDeluxe> BluesKaj it is a different computer, sorry i expressed it wrong
[15:53] <BluesKaj> FlashDeluxe, are you trying to upgrade KDE or your OS ?
[15:54] <FlashDeluxe> BluesKaj: i am upgrading from kubuntu 12.04 to 12.10 with apt-get dist-upgrade on computer A and all i want to do is see the console on my computer B.
[15:55] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade | FlashDeluxe
[15:56] <FlashDeluxe> bazhang: that is NOT the case, i didn`t ask for that...
[15:57] <bazhang> FlashDeluxe, dist-upgrade does NOT change versions...
[15:57] <FlashDeluxe> bazhang: i asked how i can connect to that tty
[15:57] <bazhang> FlashDeluxe, via ssh?
[15:58] <FlashDeluxe> bazhang: yep
[15:58] <bazhang> FlashDeluxe, did you see BluesKaj 's comment above?
[15:59] <FlashDeluxe> bazhang: yep, so if its not possible directly via ssh, there s gotta be a possiblity like screen or something like that?
[15:59] <BluesKaj> FlashDeluxe,you can't upgrade fron 12.04 to 12.10 with dist upgrade , it won't work , do-release-upgrade will.
[16:00] <FlashDeluxe> BluesKaj: but it worked on my notebook=
[16:00] <FlashDeluxe> *?
[16:00] <BluesKaj> check your notebook version
[16:01] <FlashDeluxe> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[16:01] <FlashDeluxe> DISTRIB_RELEASE=12.10
[16:01] <FlashDeluxe> DISTRIB_CODENAME=quantal
[16:01] <FlashDeluxe> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.10"
[16:01] <FloodBotK1> FlashDeluxe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:01] <FlashDeluxe> the version looks good
[16:02] <BluesKaj> then you didn't use dist-upgrade , FlashDeluxe , I'll guarantee that
[16:02] <FlashDeluxe> BluesKaj wanna bet? :D maybe theres a link on do-release-upgrade or something?
[16:03] <FlashDeluxe> but it definitely used dist-upgrade
[16:03] <Pici> If you use dist-upgrade in conjunction with modifying /etc/apt/sources.list, that might work, but its not the proper way to upgrade.
[16:04] <FlashDeluxe> Pici its the way i used to do it since years :)
[16:04] <BluesKaj> FlashDeluxe,there's no link
[16:04] <Pici> FlashDeluxe: While that might have worked, do-release-upgrade does some additional tasks that cannot be properly done soley with things within dpkg/apt
[16:04] <Pici> If you're not having any issues, great, but it can cause problems.
[16:05] <FlashDeluxe> BluesKaj nevertheless: i wanted to know something completly different :D I just want to connect to the tty6 of computer A in my network :)
[16:05] <FlashDeluxe> Pici ok the next time i will use do-release-upgrade
[16:08] <BluesKaj> FlashDeluxe, make sure you have open ssh server installed on your computer A , openssh client on the pc you are using., find the IP address of computer A , then ssh user@IPcomputerA
[16:10] <FlashDeluxe> BluesKaj ok and how can i connect to the tty number 6?
[16:11] <BluesKaj> good question ...don't know . Pici ?
[16:11] <Pici> Short answer: you can't.
[16:12] <Pici> You should use screen or similar if you want to reattach to a previously opened terminal session.
[16:13] <FlashDeluxe> Pici i do that usually, but this time i forgot :(
[16:15] <BluesKaj> FlashDeluxe, how did you manage to run the commands on computer A to install/upgrade the OS in the first place ?
[16:16] <FlashDeluxe> BluesKaj i stood up an walked to computer A
[16:17] <BluesKaj> then do that again :)
[16:18] <FlashDeluxe> BluesKaj But i am too lazy :D
[18:24] <imgx64> How do I enable Web Shortcuts in the Alt+F2 bar?
[18:27] <BluesKaj> imgx64, dunno if you can
[18:35] <xixor> hi.
[20:50] <BluPhenix316> hi guys I have a odd problem, I installed ubuntu 12.10, but I wanted to try different DEs, so I did a sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop
[20:51] <BluPhenix316> xubuntu and lubuntu installed fine but when it got to kubuntu and it hangs on updating initramfs
[20:51] <BluPhenix316> any idea?
[20:54] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Do you know at what package it hangs, or is it after the system has installed all off the packages?
[22:38] <jedihawk> net outages SUUUCK!  phantom-net syndrom!  I need my fix!  oh wait, I'm back online.  calm... calm...
[22:38]  * jedihawk breaths easier.
[22:38]  * jedihawk still has no life.
[22:40] <simplew> do i need to have kgpg running to enter in my panychpad?
[22:40] <simplew> launchpad*
[23:46] <vbgunz> I just came back to Kubuntu after a long hiatus and the number 1 thing that bugs me is how LibreOffice writer is the default app for everything text file. Is there one sweeping way to get that switched back to Kate?
[23:49] <xixor> vbgunz: you can right click on a text file in dolphin and change the associations
[23:49] <xixor> vbgunz: that is strange though.  Kate was the default viewer for text files for my system... I think anyway. Is kate installed?
[23:50] <vbgunz> xixor: yeah kates installed. I know I can take that route or go the surgeon route of messing with mime types in system settings but damn, it always takes longer than it should
[23:52] <xixor> vbgunz: it's pretty painless... right click on a text file, go to properties, click the wrench besides the "Type" line, and you change the order of the applications, and the Filename patterns
[23:52] <OerHeks> system settings, file associations > text > plain text > move Kate 1 up
[23:53] <vbgunz> xixor: I know, it just isn't one file though, that pattern I am doomed to repeat dozens of times. OerHeks, yeah that's the best route but also the most overwhelming. KDE has got to get with 2010 and fix mass mime types in some way
[23:54] <xixor> you change many file type patterns in that one dialog, at one time
[23:54] <vbgunz> it's just weird to me a decision has been made to make libreoffice writer the default text app. it really bugs me
[23:54] <OerHeks> well there are a lot of text types
[23:54] <xixor> I agree that it's strange that libreoffice is the default
[23:56] <OerHeks> system settings, default application - does not solve your question :(
[23:57] <yofel> vbgunz: it's not a decision, it's a bug
[23:58] <yofel> kate *should* be the default for text files
[23:58] <OerHeks> for plain text files, yes
[23:58] <vbgunz> OerHeks: yeah, I wouldn't mind messing with mimetypes at all in KDE except since I last spoke 7 minutes ago, I am on the 30th out of perhaps 100 text mime types. some I am sure probably are best left to writer but I am trying to make it right, I suppose
[23:58] <vbgunz> this is a new installation
[23:58] <vbgunz> 12.10
[23:58] <yofel> bug 1062086
[23:59] <vbgunz> damn, do I need the KDE ppa for 4.9.3?