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| testingone | hi guys, are any software developers/ programmers running lubuntu here/ | 09:31 |
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| philipballew | kexibq, many are | 09:51 |
| * pmatulis wonders why it takes 20 seconds for the f/f downloads window to close... | 15:44 | |
| zuperman | hello | 18:23 |
| zuperman | hello | 18:23 |
| zuperman | i have problem | 18:23 |
| zuperman | i tried to install lubuntu | 18:23 |
| zuperman | from regular .iso | 18:23 |
| zuperman | but it failed | 18:23 |
| zuperman | then i tried alternate install | 18:23 |
| zuperman | and it fails at select and install sofrware | 18:23 |
| zuperman | i tried nomodeset | 18:23 |
| zuperman | but can't do anything | 18:24 |
| zuperman | help? | 18:24 |
| holstein | zuperman: i would get to the live desktop.. can you get to the live desktop? | 18:24 |
| zuperman | no, that's the problem | 18:24 |
| zuperman | i finish installation | 18:25 |
| zuperman | and try to start x | 18:25 |
| holstein | zuperman: i would expect the same support from the live CD as the install | 18:25 |
| holstein | zuperman: does nomodeset work for the live CD? | 18:25 |
| zuperman | no, i'm installing from usb stick | 18:25 |
| zuperman | alternate install | 18:25 |
| zuperman | has no live session | 18:25 |
| holstein | zuperman: i would get to the desktop using a live CD.. or USB | 18:26 |
| holstein | zuperman: if not.. then install the alternate, and let me know when you get the desktop installed | 18:26 |
| holstein | it can be tricky using alternate iso's and USB sticks | 18:27 |
| zuperman | that's problem holstein | 18:27 |
| holstein | zuperman: corret | 18:27 |
| zuperman | i CAN'T install desktop | 18:27 |
| holstein | zuperman: why? | 18:27 |
| zuperman | it fails to install it | 18:27 |
| holstein | zuperman: i would expect the same results and failures | 18:27 |
| zuperman | it fails at step "select and install software" | 18:28 |
| holstein | zuperman: the live one? | 18:28 |
| holstein | zuperman: would make a USB stick with the live CD | 18:28 |
| zuperman | i tried before | 18:28 |
| holstein | i would *not* select or choose to download *anything* during the install | 18:28 |
| zuperman | but it can't install it | 18:28 |
| holstein | in fact, i would skip setting up the network til after install | 18:28 |
| zuperman | regular live cd fails at some point | 18:28 |
| holstein | zuperman: have you tried as i mentioned above? | 18:28 |
| zuperman | i tried that all | 18:29 |
| holstein | zuperman: fire it up, and let me know where | 18:29 |
| holstein | zuperman: ok | 18:29 |
| zuperman | so, it installs base system | 18:29 |
| zuperman | and if i finish install at that point | 18:29 |
| zuperman | it boots to command line | 18:29 |
| zuperman | no gui | 18:29 |
| zuperman | when i try to "start x" | 18:29 |
| zuperman | it returns error | 18:29 |
| holstein | zuperman: ok.. thast differnt than what i am understanding | 18:29 |
| zuperman | something like | 18:29 |
| holstein | you *do* install... the installer doesnt fail.. correct? you have lubuntu instaled? | 18:30 |
| holstein | zuperman: is that correct? you have an installation? | 18:30 |
| zuperman | yes | 18:30 |
| holstein | zuperman: OK | 18:30 |
| holstein | zuperman: are you online? | 18:30 |
| zuperman | but no gui | 18:30 |
| zuperman | yes, on other computer | 18:30 |
| holstein | zuperman: the machine that has no gui.. log in and see that you are online | 18:31 |
| zuperman | how? | 18:31 |
| holstein | zuperman: i would type the username in where it asks... input the user password | 18:31 |
| zuperman | aw, i did it | 18:31 |
| zuperman | when it boots up | 18:31 |
| zuperman | i tupe ussername | 18:31 |
| holstein | then i would run 'ping -c 8 google.com' | 18:31 |
| holstein | see that you are online ^^ | 18:32 |
| zuperman | ok, wait, to go to other room | 18:32 |
| zuperman | just a sec | 18:32 |
| holstein | nt to state the obvious.. but you will need to be hard wired to the internet at this point | 18:32 |
| holstein | zuperman: hello? | 18:34 |
| holstein | zuperman: just boot the machine up to the prompt, input the username and the password.. and google something real quick to see if its online | 18:34 |
| holstein | you can check that the network cable is plugged in | 18:35 |
| zuperman | hey | 18:36 |
| zuperman | im online | 18:36 |
| holstein | in the same place you pinged... input | 18:36 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get update | 18:36 |
| holstein | press the enter key | 18:36 |
| holstein | then... | 18:36 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop | 18:36 |
| zuperman | upgrade | 18:36 |
| zuperman | oh... | 18:36 |
| zuperman | ok | 18:36 |
| zuperman | brb | 18:36 |
| holstein | press the enterkey and report errors | 18:36 |
| zuperman | ok | 18:39 |
| zuperman | the following packages have unmet dependencies... | 18:39 |
| zuperman | and then list of packages | 18:39 |
| holstein | zuperman: what iso did you use?.. did you test it? | 18:39 |
| holstein | !md5 | 18:39 |
| ubottu | To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows | 18:39 |
| holstein | zuperman: try this.. | 18:39 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get install aptitude | 18:40 |
| zuperman | ok. wait a sec | 18:40 |
| holstein | sudo aptitude install lubuntu-desktop | 18:40 |
| zuperman | i have aptitude | 18:41 |
| zuperman | installed | 18:41 |
| holstein | zuperman: sudo aptitude install lubuntu-desktop | 18:43 |
| zuperman | it shows me some dependencies issues | 18:44 |
| zuperman | and asks me if i want to proceed | 18:44 |
| holstein | zuperman: back out and try | 18:45 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get install lxde | 18:45 |
| zuperman | unable to locate package lxde | 18:48 |
| zuperman | :/ | 18:48 |
| holstein | zuperman: sudo apt-get install lxde-common | 18:48 |
| holstein | zuperman: try and just type that in right now | 18:49 |
| holstein | and see what happens | 18:49 |
| zuperman | has no installation candidate | 18:49 |
| holstein | zuperman: if it were my box, i would confirm the iso | 18:50 |
| holstein | what should you do? | 18:50 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get update | 18:50 |
| holstein | report any errors | 18:50 |
| holstein | sudo aptitude safe-upgrade | 18:50 |
| zuperman | no errors on update | 18:50 |
| holstein | report errors.. reboot | 18:50 |
| zuperman | ok... | 18:50 |
| holstein | zuperman: im going to give you ave 4 things | 18:50 |
| holstein | take note and do them in order | 18:50 |
| zuperman | ok | 18:51 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get get update | 18:51 |
| holstein | sudo aptitude safe-upgrade | 18:51 |
| holstein | reboot | 18:51 |
| holstein | sudo reboot (this will reboot from the command prompt) | 18:52 |
| holstein | sudo aptitude install lubuntu-desktop | 18:52 |
| holstein | report errors... | 18:52 |
| zuperman | ok. brb | 18:52 |
| zuperman | it goes like this: | 18:56 |
| zuperman | upgrade does nothing | 18:56 |
| zuperman | 0 packages will be updated... so on | 18:57 |
| zuperman | i do sudo reboot | 18:57 |
| zuperman | try installing ubuntu desktop | 18:57 |
| zuperman | it asks something | 18:57 |
| zuperman | some dependency issues | 18:57 |
| zuperman | i enter "y" | 18:57 |
| holstein | i said nothing about entering y | 18:57 |
| zuperman | it then asks something | 18:57 |
| holstein | i said | 18:57 |
| holstein | sudo aptitude safe-upgrade | 18:58 |
| holstein | then report errors | 18:58 |
| zuperman | nono, safe-upgrade | 18:58 |
| zuperman | goes with no errors | 18:58 |
| holstein | ok | 18:58 |
| zuperman | but it upgrades 0 packages | 18:58 |
| holstein | then.. sudo aptitude install lubuntu-desktop | 18:58 |
| zuperman | i did it... | 18:58 |
| holstein | ok | 18:58 |
| zuperman | i just told u that | 18:58 |
| zuperman | it asks to confirm | 18:59 |
| zuperman | and in the end | 18:59 |
| holstein | zuperman: sure | 18:59 |
| holstein | zuperman: no errors though.. correct? | 18:59 |
| holstein | you'll be asked to confirm | 18:59 |
| zuperman | no, but it asks for cd | 18:59 |
| zuperman | in the end | 18:59 |
| zuperman | lubuntu 12.10 cd | 18:59 |
| holstein | well, you can put that cd in if you'd like | 18:59 |
| holstein | but i would look at... | 18:59 |
| zuperman | wants me to insert it in /media/cdrom | 18:59 |
| zuperman | i did it | 19:00 |
| holstein | ok.. and it wont work | 19:00 |
| zuperman | it spins, but it cant read it | 19:00 |
| holstein | sure.. whatever | 19:00 |
| holstein | sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list | 19:00 |
| zuperman | sec | 19:00 |
| holstein | # is a comment... means commented out | 19:02 |
| holstein | if you see lines referring to CD, put a # in front of the lines | 19:02 |
| holstein | the question is... how did this get screwed up.. | 19:02 |
| holstein | that is more of an issue | 19:02 |
| holstein | what would i do? | 19:02 |
| zuperman | nano: command not found | 19:03 |
| holstein | i would download the 12.04 live desktop version | 19:03 |
| holstein | verify the iso | 19:03 |
| holstein | install.. and enjoy | 19:03 |
| holstein | zuperman: sudo apt-get install nano | 19:03 |
| zuperman | ok, its LTS? | 19:03 |
| zuperman | 12.04? | 19:03 |
| holstein | zuperman: 12.04 is lts... lubuntu has no lts | 19:03 |
| zuperman | oh... | 19:03 |
| zuperman | ok :) | 19:03 |
| zuperman | this was my first attempt to install lubuntu | 19:04 |
| zuperman | i used ubuntu | 19:04 |
| holstein | zuperman: you can just insatll ubuntu | 19:04 |
| holstein | and install lubuntu desktop | 19:04 |
| holstein | zuperman: or lxde | 19:04 |
| holstein | zuperman: do what is easy,a nd what works... | 19:04 |
| zuperman | i can, but i have question | 19:04 |
| holstein | i think you might have bad iso's | 19:04 |
| zuperman | if i install ubuntu, and lubuntu desktop or lxde | 19:04 |
| holstein | you can verify them from the boot menu pressing shift.. or | 19:04 |
| holstein | !md5 | zuperman | 19:05 |
| ubottu | zuperman: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows | 19:05 |
| zuperman | will it work | 19:05 |
| zuperman | for older computer | 19:05 |
| holstein | zuperman: i can only say what works for me.. doing what you have already tried works for me | 19:05 |
| zuperman | whats faster? | 19:05 |
| holstein | zuperman: not sure what issues you are specifically encountering | 19:05 |
| zuperman | i want light os | 19:05 |
| holstein | zuperman: the machine will get no faster... lubuntu is a light OS | 19:05 |
| zuperman | i have amd 2000+ processor, 756 RAM | 19:06 |
| zuperman | and ati radeon all in wonder 9000 card | 19:06 |
| zuperman | ... | 19:06 |
| zuperman | it has 64 MB's | 19:06 |
| holstein | should be fine with whatever you choose | 19:06 |
| zuperman | so, ubuntu, then lubuntu-desktop? | 19:07 |
| holstein | zuperman: whatever is easy and works | 19:07 |
| holstein | zuperman: if you cant install lubuntu, just install ubuntu minimal and add | 19:07 |
| holstein | which is currently what seems to be failing for you | 19:07 |
| holstein | if you have installed ubuntu before, and that works, do that | 19:07 |
| zuperman | ubuntu minimal... where to find it? | 19:07 |
| zuperman | its another iso or..? | 19:08 |
| holstein | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD | 19:08 |
| zuperman | ok, thanks | 19:08 |
| zuperman | ill try that | 19:08 |
| zuperman | so, install minimal cd, like regular, get to classic session, | 19:09 |
| zuperman | and install lubuntu-desktop? | 19:09 |
| zuperman | oh, and, can i make bootable usb with minimal cd iso? or it has to be cd? | 19:11 |
| holstein | zuperman: you install ubuntu, from the mini iso | 19:18 |
| holstein | then, you install lubuntu-desktop or whatever you like | 19:18 |
| holstein | zuperman: usb should work fine | 19:19 |
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