[00:48] <snap-l> czajkowski: There's an active moderator community on identi.ca
[00:49] <snap-l> Even if there's just a "link to this group" opt-in, that would be cool
[00:49] <snap-l> I'd rather have the option to have it rather than have everything be twitter only.
[00:51] <snap-l> I understand identi.ca is a ghost-town, filled with radical FOSS folks, but it has other folks on there too
[00:51] <snap-l> And not everyone needs to figure out how OSS your breakfast is.
[00:51] <snap-l> ;)
[07:50] <dholbach> good morning
[08:52] <dholbach> dpm, how did it go? :)
[08:53] <AlanBell> snap-l: nope, the problem is the LTP implementation
[08:53] <dpm> hey dholbach, very well, it was a lot of fun, and people told me they enjoyed it, so mission accomplished ;)
[08:54] <dholbach> :-D
[08:54] <dpm> I recorded it too, so I'll upload the mix this evening or tomorrow
[08:54] <dholbach> awesome
[08:54] <AlanBell> it fills up with some of the most recent tweets this week, then gets identi.ca results from three years ago and those identi.ca results push the tweets out
[08:54] <dholbach> dpm, james_w: we might need to set up #ubuntu-DJs at some stage ;-)
[08:55] <dpm> :)
[08:56] <czajkowski> AlanBell: exactly
[08:57] <AlanBell> snap-l: we have identic.ca stuff from 813 days ago pushing out tweets from today http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/Screenshot%20from%202012-11-13%2008:56:28.png
[08:58] <philipballew> Do people even use identic.ca anymore?
[08:58] <philipballew> ca uses it to push some tweets still as well
[08:58] <AlanBell> dunno, I have no objection to having it there as an option, if a new dent turns up then sure, bung it in the stream with the tweets
[08:59] <AlanBell> but it just has to go away when it isn't news any more
[09:00] <czajkowski> indeed
[09:00] <czajkowski> and it doesn't/wont
[09:00] <czajkowski> :s
[09:01] <philipballew> https://new.myspace.com/
[09:01] <AlanBell> I seem to recall the most recent couple of dents about #ubuntu-uk are rants from fabsh
[09:01] <philipballew> ^ might be out new outlet :)
[09:02] <AlanBell> which is fine, people are allowed to rant, I just don't want to stick that rant to our team page for three years until someone else uses identi.ca
[09:03] <philipballew> Just whatever is most productive to reach people probably
[09:07] <philipballew> czajkowski, that loco member has not been able to "find time" to get his question on lp. So it may show up in your que sooner or later, but it is not there now.
[09:08] <czajkowski> philipballew: no worries
[09:08] <philipballew> np, just wanted to relay information for informations sake.
[09:08] <czajkowski> I've seen something similar hapen with othes, could be the openid which is a sso on isue, or it could be a merged account, either way will get it loked at
[09:08] <czajkowski> no worries I've a full list on my plate to deal with today plus meetings :)
[09:09] <philipballew> We all have too much going on!
[09:17] <philipballew> I feel I would fit in better in Europe. I mean, I already am awake when you guys are.
[09:21] <czajkowski> philipballew: come study in EU
[09:21] <czajkowski> it's what my mates did , one even transfered over her complete degree masters and now phd to ireland
[09:21] <philipballew> czajkowski, I have been considering a "semester in London"
[09:21] <czajkowski> it was cheaper to pay fees and flights and accomodation in .ie than do her degree in boston
[09:22] <czajkowski> philipballew: bah not london go to .IE
[09:22] <philipballew> Where are they located czajkowski ?
[09:23] <czajkowski> philipballew: well my uni University of Limerick it has a QCA just like GPa so we get thousands of yanks every year
[09:23] <czajkowski> they take a credit here nad there like music or irish folklore to bring up their gpa
[09:23] <philipballew> My best friend just got back from spending a semester in Dublin
[09:23] <czajkowski> there is also Dublin and there are many unis there
[09:23] <philipballew> Yes, I think there
[09:23] <czajkowski> but dublin is more expensive to live in
[09:24] <philipballew> That's what I herd
[10:18] <philipballew> Possible upvote? http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/13475h/san_diego_ubuntu_hour_this_thursday_come_and_get/
[12:08] <cjohnston> mornin
[12:22] <daker> morning
[12:47] <Tm_T> I recall we were discussing at UDS about the press slanting Canonical to anything they could, well, https://plus.google.com/u/0/103194375206590302731/posts/HPgnv5gBEyY
[12:50] <czajkowski> Tm_T: it's a google plus page with the add on it?
[12:51] <czajkowski> or am I missing something ?
[12:52] <Tm_T> I was referring to the post
[12:53] <czajkowski> right...
[12:55] <Tm_T> czajkowski: just interesting to notice that neither the video posting in youtube or uploader's profile there mention canonical at all, yet news site have to have it in the headline (:
[12:56] <czajkowski> ahhh
[12:56] <czajkowski> was wondering what you were refercing
[12:56] <czajkowski> *referencing
[12:56] <snap-l> re: identi.ca: I'm fine with an expiration for dents. Probably would make sense for Twitter as well
[12:56] <snap-l> ie: Something over 50 days is probably not relevant any more
[12:57] <snap-l> so don't display it
[12:58] <snap-l> I agree: we have some spam dents that seem to show up no matter what from 237 days ago.
[14:07] <akgraner> balloons, has anyone else had any nvidia dual monitor issues on the 12.10  - I just had to remove an old config file due to an update to get things to work - was wondering if you saw any of that with any of your manual testing
[14:08] <akgraner> it actually took Pete helping me to fix the issue is was so broken
[14:16] <balloons> akgraner, I swapped out my dual monitors last cycle, so sadly I can't re-create the issue anymore
[14:16] <balloons> however, I did hear of people really enjoying the "experimental" driver
[14:17] <balloons> I've had to wipe configs in the past between driver upgrades -- did you have to do something more than that?
[14:26] <akgraner> yeah - Pete grabbed the logs - would you like me to send them to you so you can see what all we had to do?
[14:29] <cjohnston> balloons: I had the same type of issue and I think we talked about it
[14:30] <balloons> cjohnston, ohh right, I do remember you talking about that
[15:14] <daker> jcastro_: any idea about the future of cloud.u.c ?
[15:16] <jcastro_> it just forwards to ubuntu.com/cloud afaict
[15:16] <daker> i still get bug report about cloud.u.c/ami/
[15:16] <daker> reports*
[15:39] <jcastro_> People are still using that
[15:39] <jcastro_> afaict it's the only thing on cloud.u.c that people use
[15:39] <jcastro_> probably people asking about new AMIs for the new .AU zone in AWS?
[15:41] <daker> yes
[15:42] <daker> jcastro_: but if cloud.u.c is dead, why not add the ami locator to u.c/cloud/ami
[15:43] <jcastro_> that is a good idea
[15:44] <jcastro_> can you file an RT on it and I can ask?
[15:44] <jcastro_> oh, but we do need to keep the URL alive with like a redirect or something
[15:45] <daker> yes
[15:46] <daker> if you it's going to be moved to u.c/cloud/ami we need to talk to someone from the webteam, right ?
[17:05] <dholbach> alright my friends - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow again! :)
[17:09] <dpm> cjohnston, do you know the date when the trend line for work items in status.ubuntu.com will be set?
[17:28] <jono> dpm, hey
[17:37] <dpm> hey jono
[17:37] <jono> dpm, I slept in today, hence being a little later
[17:38] <jono> sorry, no baby yet :-)
[17:38] <dpm> :-)
[17:38] <jono> dpm, I can't chat in a few mins if you want
[17:38] <dpm> jono, I need to go now, but I'll be back in ~45, if you've still got time, we can chat later
[17:38] <jono> dpm, sure, np
[17:38] <jono> thanks dpm
[17:38] <dpm> cool, thanks, bbl
[17:38] <jono> sorry I couldnt make it earlier
[17:39] <dpm> np
[17:43] <elfy> jono: you got long to wait for the sleeples nights?
[17:43] <jono> elfy, any day now
[17:43] <jono> elfy, just waiting for Erica to pop
[17:44] <elfy> excellent - well good luck and all that to you both from another mad englishman :)
[17:44] <elfy> I didn't know I could actually drive that fast through herds of horses and cows when my first arrived :)
[17:45] <jono> thanks so much elfy!
[17:46] <elfy> :)
[17:46] <elfy> you do know that all the congratulations from exisiting parents come with a Dick Dastardly laugh I hope :D
[17:48] <elfy> sigh - Muttley I mean ...
[17:48] <elfy> I'm sure all will be fine
[17:49] <jono> hah
[17:49] <elfy> my littlest just turned 13
[18:00] <mhall119> elfy: not to little anymore
[18:01] <elfy> that's a fact - the eldest is 3 years younger than I was when we had him - getting on a bit over here :)
[18:15] <dpm> jono, ok I'm back. Do you have some time for a quick chat?
[18:16] <jono> dpm, yeah, give me a min, switching rooms
[18:16] <dpm> cool, thanks
[18:18] <jono> dpm, invite sent
[19:21] <jono> cjohnston, ping?
[20:14] <cjohnston> jono: pong
[20:20] <jono> hey cjohnston
[20:20] <jono> cjohnston, quick question: for a BP to appear on my burndown, do I still need to prefix all BPs with 'community-' ?
[20:22] <cjohnston> no
[20:22] <cjohnston> which BP is it
[20:27] <jono> cjohnston, so I have a bunch of team BPs
[20:27] <jono> such as balloons's which start with qa
[20:27] <cjohnston> ok
[20:27] <jono> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/qa-r-automated-testing-community
[20:27] <jono> I want to ensure they are tracking in my burndown
[20:27]  * balloons ducks
[20:27] <jono> what do I need to do
[20:28] <jono> typical balloons, causing trouble
[20:28] <jono> lol
[20:28] <cjohnston> your burndown being jonobacon or being community-team
[20:29] <jono> cjohnston, community-team
[20:29] <jono> cjohnston, so what do I need to do to get these onto that burndown?
[20:29] <jono> I know I need to accept them first
[20:29] <jono> which I can do
[20:29] <jono> but it is just getting them on the chart I am unsure of
[20:33] <cjohnston> do you have an example of one of balloons' BPs that you want on the community page?
[20:35] <jono> cjohnston, the one I just posted
[20:35] <cjohnston> sorry.. missed it
[20:35] <jono> cjohnston, can you tell me the criteria that is required for a BP to appear on the community burndown?
[20:36] <jono> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/qa-r-automated-testing-community
[20:37] <cjohnston> that one appears to be on your page...
[20:37] <cjohnston> it's assigned to one of your members or the team
[20:37] <cjohnston> or community- iirc
[20:37] <jono> cjohnston, is that how it works
[20:37] <jono> ahhh I see
[20:37] <jono> so an approved BP assigned to a member of my team appears on the burndown
[20:37] <cjohnston> though I don't see any that are community-
[20:38] <cjohnston> yes
[20:40] <cjohnston> jono: are there any that you feel are missing currently?
[20:40] <cjohnston> or were you just asking the process
[20:40] <jono> cjohnston, just asking about the process
[20:40] <cjohnston> ok... :-)
[20:40] <cjohnston> and its down to updating every two hours because we have so much more data in it now than when we first started :-(
[20:42] <jono> cjohnston, np, thanks
[20:42] <cjohnston> Still waiting for a little Bacon I take it?
[20:48] <cjohnston> pleia2: you around?
[20:49] <pleia2> cjohnston: yeah
[20:52] <jono> balloons, what is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/qa-r-testing-campaign superceded with?
[20:52] <jono> cjohnston, yes indeed
[20:52] <cjohnston> :-)
[20:52] <cjohnston> get some sleep while you still can :-P
[20:53] <jono> balloons, also, no work items on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/qa-r-community
[20:53] <jono> cjohnston, indeed
[20:53] <jono> I have been sleeping as much as I can
[20:53] <balloons> jono, I can add items to it if you wish.. that session was the only "roundtable" if you will we had
[20:54] <jono> balloons, only add items that were committed to
[20:54] <jono> if there were no items, that is fine
[20:54] <balloons> jono, right and nothing committed to in session
[20:54] <jono> cool
[20:54] <balloons> overall, I'm much lower on commitments from blueprints this cycle
[20:54] <jono> jcastro_, what about community-irc-workshops and community-ubuntu-on-air - are there BPs for that?
[20:54] <jono> balloons, np
[20:54] <jcastro_> yeah
[20:55] <jcastro_> I just don't have WI on them
[20:55] <balloons> the testing campaigns session didn't happen. basically everything we spoke about in the weather report, talking with didrocks, the other qa folks.. no need for a session anymore
[21:36] <jono_> pleia2, hey
[21:36] <pleia2> jono_: hey
[21:36] <jono_> how much bandwidth can your blog serve?
[21:36] <jono_> I would like to promote http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=7238 on our social networks
[21:36] <jono_> but traditionally it hammers blogs
[21:37] <pleia2> jono_: it would be ok, but this post is actually much better than mine: http://blog.partimus.org/?p=414
[21:37] <jono_> pleia2, another option is to post it to the fridge, I can notify IS and then link to that
[21:38] <pleia2> and that's hosted with dreamhost, built to withstand a beating :)
[21:38] <jono_> alright, lets test it :-)
[21:41] <jono_> and posted
[22:23] <knome> what's the status of steam for all uds participants?
[22:27] <daker> i want to know too
[22:31] <JanC> if I understood correctly, the current Valve Steam beta only applies to people who run Ubuntu 12.10 with the nvidia closed source driver?
[22:32] <knome> that's not the point
[22:33] <JanC> knome: so, what is the point?  (I wasn't at UDS, so don't know if they promised anything...)
[22:34] <knome> JanC, they promised a beta account for everybody attending uds
[22:34] <JanC> hm
[22:34] <knome> i don't care if it isn't supposed to work on my machine or not, i want the account.
[22:34] <JanC> maybe they will fopr the next beta round?
[22:35] <knome> i've no idea
[22:36] <JanC> from what I've read, you can use it anyway, just not (officially) report bugs
[23:00] <bkerensa> JanC: incorrect... I have neither a Nvidia nor ATI card... just a intel video card and it runs fine
[23:01] <bkerensa> knome: supposedly they are doing it in waves... First people got invites the first day but they have been adding people
[23:15] <JanC> bkerensa: you got an invite for their beta test?
[23:16] <bkerensa> JanC: sure did
[23:16] <JanC> eh, weird
[23:17] <JanC> just a couple of days ago somebody told me that were the conditions for the first round of beta tests
[23:17] <bkerensa> JanC: So my invite was due to me writing for OMG... me and Joey both got invited directly by the Valve through the Ubuntu Desktop Team
[23:17] <bkerensa> I got mine roughly two days after the first UDS wave
[23:18] <JanC> bkerensa: well, it was claimed that they didn't want bug reports outside the data set I mentioned earlier
[23:19] <bkerensa> JanC: huh yeah... I know people on other distros got invited
[23:20] <bkerensa> like their are people using Arch playing with invite
[23:20] <bkerensa> :s
[23:20] <JanC> but I'm not part of anything, just trying to get answer to questions I get from people in other channels...
[23:21] <JanC> bkerensa: I heard several people lied
[23:21] <bkerensa> JanC: Im sure hundreds did
[23:21] <bkerensa> :)
[23:22] <JanC> and of course, you know very well that the download location has been public knowledge for some time...
[23:22] <bkerensa> JanC: indeed thats how the Arch porting started
[23:22] <bkerensa> :)
[23:23] <bkerensa> sadly TF2 on Steam uses nearly all my memory and since its a 32 bit binary Steam is unable to use my full memory available
[23:23] <JanC> to me, the "Arch port" didn't seem legal, but that's another story, I suppose?