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pittistgraber: ah, thanks04:31
pittiScottK: I chaired last time?04:31
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jamespagezul, did you run last weeks meeting?15:53
zuljamespage: indeed i did15:57
smbhas it started already?15:58
zul2 minutes15:58
smbAh ok. Just wondered what you did as I joined just then15:59
smbzul, btw, I am working on the xen update right now15:59
zulsmb: problems?15:59
smbzul, Not because of problems but because of the things we said we would do with it at UDS16:00
zulah ok16:00
smbWell not you but me while you were hiding in the front-row ;-P16:00
zulsmb: i have become pretty good i thought at the last uds ;)16:02
smbPerfectly working OPP fields ;)16:02
SpamapSpeople seem to not be updating the agenda.. or list of chairs..16:03
SpamapSor the date o the meeting16:03
rbasakNote to chairs: there's a handy checklist here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase#Team_policy16:04
smbMy chair does not seem to care...16:05
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rbasakStick a note on your chair so that the next time you sit down on the chair and you are the chair you'll remember :-P16:05
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smbrbasak, Luckily for me this is an OPP16:06
jamespageOK _ so lets work down the list16:11
jamespagezul did it last week16:11
zuldid the meeting start?16:11
jamespageutlemming, able to chair? you are at the head of the list16:11
DavieyHmm, meeting starts in 49 mins?16:11
smbI think we still are in the land of tz confusion16:11
utlemmingjamespage: nope, I have a regular conflict to this meeting now16:11
* jamespage updates the meeting page16:12
smbjamespage, Note that kernel team has 17UTC slot16:13
jamespageDaviey, OK - so time zone confusion aside the meeting should be right now16:14
jamespagenot in 45 minutes time as smb points out16:14
zulor 14 minutes ago16:16
jsalisburyhttp://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/fridge/ ;-)16:16
jamespageOK - lets find a chair then16:18
jamespageas hallyn is not in channel16:18
jamespagemaybe smoser can do the honours16:18
smoseroh boy.16:19
jamespagesmoser: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting/IRCCommands16:20
jamespagehelpful commands16:20
smoser#startmeeting ubuntu-server-team16:20
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smoser#topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting16:20
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smoserno action items carried over16:21
smoser#topic Raring Development16:21
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smoserDaviey, did you want to talk some here?16:21
smoserblueprints should be just about settled.16:21
Davieysmoser: I think you can cover it :)16:21
smoseri'll take an action to review them today or tomorrow and bother anyone whose are not in good state.16:22
Davieysmoser: You, jamespage and myself will be reviewing blueprints this week, right?16:22
smoser#action smoser, jamespage, daviey review blueprints16:22
meetingologyACTION: smoser, jamespage, daviey review blueprints16:22
jamespageDaviey, smoser: lets schedule some time todo that then16:22
smoserafter meeting, jamespage16:22
smoserother thing here is that  would like to get "milestones" in place.16:22
Davieysmoser: Monthly ?16:23
smoserwe dont really have milestones (alpha1, alpha2...) but i thinkw e want to still target blueprints for "general finished" at given points in the cycle.16:23
smoserah. the Monthly things are in now.16:24
smosercoo.16:24
smoserie, you can now target bugs to "ubuntu-13.04-month-1"16:24
smoser(also 'alpha-X' which is strange)16:25
smoseranyway.16:25
smoseranyone have anything else for this ?16:25
smosero. moving on16:25
smoser#topic Ubuntu Server Team Events16:26
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DavieyNone planned AFAIK?16:26
smoserutlemming and I will be at re:invent which is the week after next.16:26
smoserdr mimms and SpamapS also i think.16:26
smoser#topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)16:27
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smoserhggdh is not present...16:27
SpamapSindeed16:27
smoseranyone have QA like topics for disucssion ?16:27
SpamapSoh sorry I forgot to pipe up in events16:27
SpamapSI'll also be talking at ScaleLA next Tuesday16:27
SpamapShttp://www.meetup.com/scalela/16:27
smosercool.16:28
DavieyOo16:28
smoser#topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)16:28
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smbWorking on on bug 1023755. Depending on io scheduler (cfq/deadline) I think I got one half down to somewhere between v3.3-rc7 and v3.3 (bug messed up the bisect), the other half may be related to cfq and seemed to exist in Quantal stiil. Beside that I am working on an update to Xen Raring to cover the things we said we would do at UDS.16:28
smb..16:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1023755 in linux (Ubuntu) "Precise kernel locks up while dd to /dev/mapper files > 1Gb (was: Unable to delete volume)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102375516:28
smosersmb is all over it.16:28
smosersmb, also... it seemed like you had some kernel changes in the pike for 10.0416:29
smbsmoser, Oh yeah that. Sort of dump the special ec2 patches and just use the same codebase as for the generic kernels16:30
smoserhttp://people.canonical.com/~smb/lucid-ec2-ng16:30
smbJust slightly different options and a few other patches16:30
smoserif anyone wants to give that stuff a spin on EC2 (generic xen couldn't hurt i dont think), that'd be great16:30
smoserthanks smb.16:31
smoser#topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)16:31
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rbasakNothing new to report. Any questions for me?16:31
smoserrbasak, i've just uploaded to precise-proposed a cloud-init update that addresses 'ports.ubuntu.com' for arm16:31
smoserSpamapS, ... your help would be appreciated on that review.16:31
rbasakAwesome. Thanks!16:31
smoseranything else related to the arm ?16:32
smoser#topic Open Discussion16:32
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smoserour cloud iamges are currently experiencing issues for raring16:32
smoserutlemming did some bisection yesterday.16:32
smoserthere were two issues:16:32
smosera.) we weren't finding the Ec2 Datasource on ec2 or openstack16:33
smoserb.) we appear to "lose" some output that shoudl hit the console, making debugging harder. ie, cloud-init's 'log.warn' should get to/dev/console, but the messages were not getting there.16:33
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smoserc.) cloud-init in raring == cloud-init in quantal at the moment16:34
smoserso..16:34
smoserthat will be fun.16:34
smoseranyone else open discussion , or solutions to my problems ?16:34
zulalso we have an SRU for nova and quantum on quantal that seems to be stuck or not moving16:34
zul(ie: uploaded but not processed)16:35
zulsmoser: i dont have a solution to your problem ;)16:35
smoserah. we should also welcome mikal, but since he lives in the far distant future, he is not here.16:35
smosermikal will be working on openstack for us. hooray.16:36
SpamapSHey has anyone been following debian's cloud image efforts?16:36
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smoseri'm on ec2debian mailing list16:37
smoserbut thats about it. and that is slow moving.16:37
smoserwas there something specifically you were interested in SpamapS  ?16:37
SpamapSits not ec2debian, there's a debian-cloud now16:38
SpamapSThey're pushing images into Azure as well as EC216:38
SpamapSsmoser: I'm just wondering if people have thoughts on how we might collaborate there.16:38
xnoxthere was call for help maintaining cloud-init in/for debian images.16:39
SpamapSAs Debian users move onto the cloud, they'll likely bring new ideas that we can incorporate into Ubuntu's cloud images.16:39
utlemmingSpamapS: do you have a link?16:39
smoserhttp://lists.debian.org/debian-cloud/2012/11/threads.html16:39
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xnoxsome of this stuff was on debian-private though (the azure bits)16:39
SpamapShttps://lists.debian.org/debian-cloud/16:39
smoserand respond to call for cloud-init.16:39
SpamapSxnox: Azure is being discussed on debian-cloud tho16:40
SpamapShttps://lists.debian.org/debian-cloud/2012/11/msg00039.html16:40
xnoxSpamapS: now it is =) good.16:40
SpamapSxnox: <phew> thought I was being a real oaf there for a second.16:40
utlemmingSpamapS: for Azure, I probably need to spend some time with them, since I package their agent.16:41
* xnox was only following debian-private.16:41
SpamapSutlemming: yeah, it might be good to not duplicate that effort. :)16:42
SpamapSOh there's also a #debian-cloud on OFTC16:43
smoserthanks SpamapS16:44
smoseranyone have anythign else ?16:44
smoser#topic Announce next meeting date and time16:46
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DavieySame time, or an hour later?16:46
zulsame time16:46
smoserthis meeting has been 16:00 UTC for probably 2 years.16:46
smoserbut that isn't necessarily a reason that US/Pacific people should have to be online at 8:00 AM16:47
SpamapSyeah, sucks for west coast US but meh16:47
smoserok. failing any other arguments...16:48
Davieysmoser: and for the alst 2 years, west-coasters have complained, and sucked at turning up :)16:48
SpamapSnobody on the west coast of the US uses Ubuntu server16:48
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smoserok.16:48
SpamapSwell I mean except *all of silicon valley*, but who cares about those nerds?16:48
smosernext meeting: Tuesday 2012-11-20 at 1600 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting16:48
smoser#end-meeting16:49
smoser#endmeeting16:49
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Nov 13 16:49:12 2012 UTC.16:49
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DavieySpamapS: exactly16:49
Davieythanks smoser16:49
arosalesthanks  soser16:50
arosalessmoser, that is16:50
smoserSOSER!16:50
arosalestab completion failed me16:53
arosales:-)16:53
jsalisbury#startmeeting17:00
jsalisbury##17:00
jsalisbury## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.17:00
jsalisbury##17:00
jsalisbury[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting17:00
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Nov 13 17:00:30 2012 UTC.  The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.17:00
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jsalisbury[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/raring17:00
jsalisbury# Meeting Etiquette17:00
jsalisbury#17:00
jsalisbury# NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input.17:00
jsalisbury#       'o/' indicates you have something to add (please wait until you are recognized)17:00
jsalisburyRoll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting17:00
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jsalisbury[TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)17:01
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ppisatinothing new this week17:01
ppisati..17:01
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)17:01
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jsalisburyRelease metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:17:01
jsalisbury[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt17:01
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jsalisbury[TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)17:02
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ogasawara[LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/canonical-kernel-distro-team-ubuntu-13.04-month-1.html17:02
ogasawaraThat link acutally displays no work items as the new tracking checkpoints have just been created.  I'll get our blueprints updated.  Expect an itemized list in next week's meeting.  For now, I'd suggest looking at:17:02
ogasawara[LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/canonical-kernel-distro-team.html17:02
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jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: Raring Development Kernel (ogasawara)17:02
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ogasawaraLast week we uploaded the first v3.7-rc4 based Raring kernel to the archive.  It is currently sitting in raring-proposed.  We have also just rebased our raring tree to upstream v3.7-rc5.17:03
ogasawaraImportant upcoming dates:17:03
ogasawara * 13.04 Month 1 Checkpoint - ??? (release schedule has not been updated)17:03
ogasawara..17:03
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: CVE's (henrix)17:03
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henrixCurrently we have 26 CVEs on our radar, with 3 CVE added and 1 CVE retired since last meeting.17:03
henrixSee the CVE matrix for the current list:17:03
henrix[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html17:03
henrixOverall the backlog has decreased slightly this week:17:03
henrix[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt17:03
henrix[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt17:03
henrix..17:03
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Quantal/Precise/Oneiric/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton/henrix)17:03
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henrixHere is the status for the main kernels, until today (November 13):17:04
henrix * Hardy - In Preparation; 1 CVEs; (1 commits)17:04
henrix * Lucid - In Preparation; 1 CVEs; (2 commits)17:04
henrix * Oneiric - In Testing, security signoff (from previous cycle)17:04
henrix           - In Preparation (current cycle); 2 CVEs; 6 upstream stable release(s); (200 commits)17:04
henrix * Precise - In Testing, security signoff (from previous cycle)17:04
henrix           - In Preparation; 2 CVEs; 2 upstream stable release(s); (253 commits)17:04
henrix * Quantal - In Preparation; 2 CVEs; (11 commits)17:04
henrixCurrent opened tracking bugs details:17:04
henrix * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html17:04
henrixFor SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:17:04
henrix * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html17:04
henrixFuture stable cadence cycles:17:04
henrix * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseInterlock17:04
henrix..17:04
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)17:04
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jsalisburyThanks everyone17:05
jsalisbury#endmeeting17:05
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