[04:31] <pitti> stgraber: ah, thanks
[04:31] <pitti> ScottK: I chaired last time?
[15:53] <jamespage> zul, did you run last weeks meeting?
[15:57] <zul> jamespage: indeed i did
[15:58] <smb> has it started already?
[15:58] <zul> 2 minutes
[15:59] <smb> Ah ok. Just wondered what you did as I joined just then
[15:59] <smb> zul, btw, I am working on the xen update right now
[15:59] <zul> smb: problems?
[16:00] <smb> zul, Not because of problems but because of the things we said we would do with it at UDS
[16:00] <zul> ah ok
[16:00] <smb> Well not you but me while you were hiding in the front-row ;-P
[16:02] <zul> smb: i have become pretty good i thought at the last uds ;)
[16:02] <smb> Perfectly working OPP fields ;)
[16:03] <SpamapS> people seem to not be updating the agenda.. or list of chairs..
[16:03] <SpamapS> or the date o the meeting
[16:04] <rbasak> Note to chairs: there's a handy checklist here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase#Team_policy
[16:05] <smb> My chair does not seem to care...
[16:05] <rbasak> Stick a note on your chair so that the next time you sit down on the chair and you are the chair you'll remember :-P
[16:06] <smb> rbasak, Luckily for me this is an OPP
[16:11] <jamespage> OK _ so lets work down the list
[16:11] <jamespage> zul did it last week
[16:11] <zul> did the meeting start?
[16:11] <jamespage> utlemming, able to chair? you are at the head of the list
[16:11] <Daviey> Hmm, meeting starts in 49 mins?
[16:11] <smb> I think we still are in the land of tz confusion
[16:11] <utlemming> jamespage: nope, I have a regular conflict to this meeting now
[16:12]  * jamespage updates the meeting page
[16:13] <smb> jamespage, Note that kernel team has 17UTC slot
[16:14] <jamespage> Daviey, OK - so time zone confusion aside the meeting should be right now
[16:14] <jamespage> not in 45 minutes time as smb points out
[16:16] <zul> or 14 minutes ago
[16:16] <jsalisbury> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/fridge/ ;-)
[16:18] <jamespage> OK - lets find a chair then
[16:18] <jamespage> as hallyn is not in channel
[16:18] <jamespage> maybe smoser can do the honours
[16:19] <smoser> oh boy.
[16:20] <jamespage> smoser: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting/IRCCommands
[16:20] <jamespage> helpful commands
[16:20] <smoser> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
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[16:20] <smoser> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:21] <smoser> no action items carried over
[16:21] <smoser> #topic Raring Development
[16:21] <smoser> Daviey, did you want to talk some here?
[16:21] <smoser> blueprints should be just about settled.
[16:21] <Daviey> smoser: I think you can cover it :)
[16:22] <smoser> i'll take an action to review them today or tomorrow and bother anyone whose are not in good state.
[16:22] <Daviey> smoser: You, jamespage and myself will be reviewing blueprints this week, right?
[16:22] <smoser> #action smoser, jamespage, daviey review blueprints
[16:22] <meetingology> ACTION: smoser, jamespage, daviey review blueprints
[16:22] <jamespage> Daviey, smoser: lets schedule some time todo that then
[16:22] <smoser> after meeting, jamespage
[16:22] <smoser> other thing here is that  would like to get "milestones" in place.
[16:23] <Daviey> smoser: Monthly ?
[16:23] <smoser> we dont really have milestones (alpha1, alpha2...) but i thinkw e want to still target blueprints for "general finished" at given points in the cycle.
[16:24] <smoser> ah. the Monthly things are in now.
[16:24] <smoser> coo.
[16:24] <smoser> ie, you can now target bugs to "ubuntu-13.04-month-1"
[16:25] <smoser> (also 'alpha-X' which is strange)
[16:25] <smoser> anyway.
[16:25] <smoser> anyone have anything else for this ?
[16:25] <smoser> o. moving on
[16:26] <smoser> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:26] <Daviey> None planned AFAIK?
[16:26] <smoser> utlemming and I will be at re:invent which is the week after next.
[16:26] <smoser> dr mimms and SpamapS also i think.
[16:27] <smoser> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:27] <smoser> hggdh is not present...
[16:27] <SpamapS> indeed
[16:27] <smoser> anyone have QA like topics for disucssion ?
[16:27] <SpamapS> oh sorry I forgot to pipe up in events
[16:27] <SpamapS> I'll also be talking at ScaleLA next Tuesday
[16:27] <SpamapS> http://www.meetup.com/scalela/
[16:28] <smoser> cool.
[16:28] <Daviey> Oo
[16:28] <smoser> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:28] <smb> Working on on bug 1023755. Depending on io scheduler (cfq/deadline) I think I got one half down to somewhere between v3.3-rc7 and v3.3 (bug messed up the bisect), the other half may be related to cfq and seemed to exist in Quantal stiil. Beside that I am working on an update to Xen Raring to cover the things we said we would do at UDS.
[16:28] <smb> ..
[16:28] <smoser> smb is all over it.
[16:29] <smoser> smb, also... it seemed like you had some kernel changes in the pike for 10.04
[16:30] <smb> smoser, Oh yeah that. Sort of dump the special ec2 patches and just use the same codebase as for the generic kernels
[16:30] <smoser> http://people.canonical.com/~smb/lucid-ec2-ng
[16:30] <smb> Just slightly different options and a few other patches
[16:30] <smoser> if anyone wants to give that stuff a spin on EC2 (generic xen couldn't hurt i dont think), that'd be great
[16:31] <smoser> thanks smb.
[16:31] <smoser> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
[16:31] <rbasak> Nothing new to report. Any questions for me?
[16:31] <smoser> rbasak, i've just uploaded to precise-proposed a cloud-init update that addresses 'ports.ubuntu.com' for arm
[16:31] <smoser> SpamapS, ... your help would be appreciated on that review.
[16:31] <rbasak> Awesome. Thanks!
[16:32] <smoser> anything else related to the arm ?
[16:32] <smoser> #topic Open Discussion
[16:32] <smoser> our cloud iamges are currently experiencing issues for raring
[16:32] <smoser> utlemming did some bisection yesterday.
[16:32] <smoser> there were two issues:
[16:33] <smoser> a.) we weren't finding the Ec2 Datasource on ec2 or openstack
[16:33] <smoser> b.) we appear to "lose" some output that shoudl hit the console, making debugging harder. ie, cloud-init's 'log.warn' should get to/dev/console, but the messages were not getting there.
[16:34] <smoser> c.) cloud-init in raring == cloud-init in quantal at the moment
[16:34] <smoser> so..
[16:34] <smoser> that will be fun.
[16:34] <smoser> anyone else open discussion , or solutions to my problems ?
[16:34] <zul> also we have an SRU for nova and quantum on quantal that seems to be stuck or not moving
[16:35] <zul> (ie: uploaded but not processed)
[16:35] <zul> smoser: i dont have a solution to your problem ;)
[16:35] <smoser> ah. we should also welcome mikal, but since he lives in the far distant future, he is not here.
[16:36] <smoser> mikal will be working on openstack for us. hooray.
[16:36] <SpamapS> Hey has anyone been following debian's cloud image efforts?
[16:37] <smoser> i'm on ec2debian mailing list
[16:37] <smoser> but thats about it. and that is slow moving.
[16:37] <smoser> was there something specifically you were interested in SpamapS  ?
[16:38] <SpamapS> its not ec2debian, there's a debian-cloud now
[16:38] <SpamapS> They're pushing images into Azure as well as EC2
[16:38] <SpamapS> smoser: I'm just wondering if people have thoughts on how we might collaborate there.
[16:39] <xnox> there was call for help maintaining cloud-init in/for debian images.
[16:39] <SpamapS> As Debian users move onto the cloud, they'll likely bring new ideas that we can incorporate into Ubuntu's cloud images.
[16:39] <utlemming> SpamapS: do you have a link?
[16:39] <smoser> http://lists.debian.org/debian-cloud/2012/11/threads.html
[16:39]  * smoser will join list.
[16:39] <xnox> some of this stuff was on debian-private though (the azure bits)
[16:39] <SpamapS> https://lists.debian.org/debian-cloud/
[16:39] <smoser> and respond to call for cloud-init.
[16:40] <SpamapS> xnox: Azure is being discussed on debian-cloud tho
[16:40] <SpamapS> https://lists.debian.org/debian-cloud/2012/11/msg00039.html
[16:40] <xnox> SpamapS: now it is =) good.
[16:40] <SpamapS> xnox: <phew> thought I was being a real oaf there for a second.
[16:41] <utlemming> SpamapS: for Azure, I probably need to spend some time with them, since I package their agent.
[16:41]  * xnox was only following debian-private.
[16:42] <SpamapS> utlemming: yeah, it might be good to not duplicate that effort. :)
[16:43] <SpamapS> Oh there's also a #debian-cloud on OFTC
[16:44] <smoser> thanks SpamapS
[16:44] <smoser> anyone have anythign else ?
[16:46] <smoser> #topic Announce next meeting date and time
[16:46] <Daviey> Same time, or an hour later?
[16:46] <zul> same time
[16:46] <smoser> this meeting has been 16:00 UTC for probably 2 years.
[16:47] <smoser> but that isn't necessarily a reason that US/Pacific people should have to be online at 8:00 AM
[16:47] <SpamapS> yeah, sucks for west coast US but meh
[16:48] <smoser> ok. failing any other arguments...
[16:48] <Daviey> smoser: and for the alst 2 years, west-coasters have complained, and sucked at turning up :)
[16:48] <SpamapS> nobody on the west coast of the US uses Ubuntu server
[16:48] <smoser> ok.
[16:48] <SpamapS> well I mean except *all of silicon valley*, but who cares about those nerds?
[16:48] <smoser> next meeting: Tuesday 2012-11-20 at 1600 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting
[16:49] <smoser> #end-meeting
[16:49] <smoser> #endmeeting
[16:49] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Nov 13 16:49:12 2012 UTC.
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[16:49] <Daviey> SpamapS: exactly
[16:49] <Daviey> thanks smoser
[16:50] <arosales> thanks  soser
[16:50] <arosales> smoser, that is
[16:50] <smoser> SOSER!
[16:53] <arosales> tab completion failed me
[16:53] <arosales> :-)
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #startmeeting
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/raring
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # Meeting Etiquette
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input.
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #       'o/' indicates you have something to add (please wait until you are recognized)
[17:00] <jsalisbury> Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting
[17:00] <ppisati> o/
[17:00] <cking> o/
[17:00] <herton> o/
[17:00] <sforshee> o/
[17:00] <henrix> o/
[17:00] <rtg> o/
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:01] <ppisati> nothing new this week
[17:01] <ppisati> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:01] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:01] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)
[17:02] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/canonical-kernel-distro-team-ubuntu-13.04-month-1.html
[17:02] <ogasawara> That link acutally displays no work items as the new tracking checkpoints have just been created.  I'll get our blueprints updated.  Expect an itemized list in next week's meeting.  For now, I'd suggest looking at:
[17:02] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/canonical-kernel-distro-team.html
[17:02] <ogasawara> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Raring Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:03] <ogasawara> Last week we uploaded the first v3.7-rc4 based Raring kernel to the archive.  It is currently sitting in raring-proposed.  We have also just rebased our raring tree to upstream v3.7-rc5.
[17:03] <ogasawara> Important upcoming dates:
[17:03] <ogasawara>  * 13.04 Month 1 Checkpoint - ??? (release schedule has not been updated)
[17:03] <ogasawara> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (henrix)
[17:03] <henrix> Currently we have 26 CVEs on our radar, with 3 CVE added and 1 CVE retired since last meeting.
[17:03] <henrix> See the CVE matrix for the current list:
[17:03] <henrix> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
[17:03] <henrix> Overall the backlog has decreased slightly this week:
[17:03] <henrix> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt
[17:03] <henrix> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:03] <henrix> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Quantal/Precise/Oneiric/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton/henrix)
[17:04] <henrix> Here is the status for the main kernels, until today (November 13):
[17:04] <henrix>  * Hardy - In Preparation; 1 CVEs; (1 commits)
[17:04] <henrix>  * Lucid - In Preparation; 1 CVEs; (2 commits)
[17:04] <henrix>  * Oneiric - In Testing, security signoff (from previous cycle)
[17:04] <henrix>            - In Preparation (current cycle); 2 CVEs; 6 upstream stable release(s); (200 commits)
[17:04] <henrix>  * Precise - In Testing, security signoff (from previous cycle)
[17:04] <henrix>            - In Preparation; 2 CVEs; 2 upstream stable release(s); (253 commits)
[17:04] <henrix>  * Quantal - In Preparation; 2 CVEs; (11 commits)
[17:04] <henrix> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:04] <henrix>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:04] <henrix> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:04] <henrix>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html
[17:04] <henrix> Future stable cadence cycles:
[17:04] <henrix>  * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseInterlock
[17:04] <henrix> ..
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:05] <jsalisbury> Thanks everyone
[17:05] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
[17:05] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Nov 13 17:05:21 2012 UTC.
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