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gilbertpaultag: #682050 ^_^02:50
paultaggilbert: hahaha what a dickhead02:52
paultagin a good way02:57
paultaggilbert: thanks for helping to take care of something that's important :)02:57
paultag(pretty core package there)02:57
gilberttrue03:06
gilberti seem to be able to find all the pain points...also dealing with an rc issue in python2.603:06
gilbertthe thing is that the change is so incredibly mindless.  its just reverting a patch that broke a bunch of stuff03:07
paultagbleh03:09
paultagalso, why the heck are we shipping 2.6 on wheezy03:09
paultagsuch a stupid move03:09
gilbertdunno, historically there have been two python2.x's shipped with every release03:14
gilbertreally the issue is that some stuff didn't get ported to 2.7 in time...but oh well03:14
paultaggilbert: 2.6 is EOL'd03:22
paultaggilbert: and supporting that prevents 3.x migration, and wheezy has 3.x support03:22
paultagwe shouldn't ship EOL'd software, since it'll be 2 years EOL'd by wheezy EOL03:23
paultagalright, bbl, one love03:28
gilberti totally agree.  don't blame me.  blame the crazy python maintainer situation that the tech committee did absolutely nothing about03:35
paultaggilbert++14:21
paultaggilbert: I've been screwing around with some code in my hotel - http://graph.lucifer.pault.ag/14:47
paultaggilbert: enter two uids (paultag / gilbert)14:47
paultagmgilbert* :)14:47
thafreakso say some one has a customer...and they don't want to host their email with google...because well they fear google having their data15:47
thafreakare there any other hosted email providers that are worth a crap? Also, outlook.com/office365 is out of question...15:48
canthus13thafreak: yahoo does hosted email... it's not *that* bad.15:58
Cheri703yahoo mail is terrible, don't know about hosted, but I don't trust someone who wants to make you pay to transfer your data away from their free service :/16:15
thafreakI think we might be leaning towards running our own email server in a vps or something...16:29
thafreak:/16:30
thafreakbetter than running it there at their premises...then i don't have to deal with the crappy dsl stuff16:30
skellatpaultag: I think I did something evil here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=69314719:28
paultagskellat: :)19:31
paultagskellat: next, prepare a fix :)19:31
paultagskellat: oh, maintainer is a cool guy.19:31
skellatThere's no new stable to jump to yet, though19:32
skellatIt is in its 3rd public beta as Twitter API 1.1 is apparently a pain in the ass19:32
paultagmmm, auye19:33
skellatI've followed most of the discussion from Cameron Kaiser's end for what Twitter's done to their bloody API and there are still issues he's trying to fix19:34
skellatI filed a release critical bug just to be sure the older version does not make it into the Wheezy release19:34
skellatThe two big breakers between versions are handling Twitter rate limits and coping with t.co which Dr. Kaiser is having to outright rebuild handling for19:35
skellatSuggestions?19:39
skellatI actually do have some level of contact with the upstream on this one.19:39
paultagskellat: I'd get in touch with the Debian release team19:41
paultagskellat: it's already in wheezy, you should make sure the release team knows and removes from wheezy or allows this new upstream through19:41
paultag#debian-release on ofct19:41
paultagoftc19:42
skellatCrap...government officials on the line...be back later...19:48
Unit193Sounds fun...19:57
dzhoo.O19:57
canthus13thafreak: postfix/dovecot/squirrelmail isn't too bad once you beat postfix and dovecot into submission.21:13
* canthus13 is still having occasional problems with them trying to fight back. :/21:14
skellatpaultag: Still around?21:23
* skellat is glad to be done for the day talking with part-time zoning inspectors who deliberately have no voice mail and practically unstaffed yet still existing on paper planning agencies about home building21:28
* skellat wanders off for more household duties21:31
thafreakcanthus13: yeah, actually, ubuntu has a meta pkg called postfix-dovecot...or dovecot-postfix21:39
thafreaki forget21:39
thafreakbut it automagically configures everythin for you and sets it all up to use pam auth21:39
thafreakso your shell accounts can use imap21:39
thafreaki'm actually a big fan of dbmail, but lately it's imap server has some memory leak problems that are causing me un-ending grief21:40
canthus13heh.21:41
thafreakso i bought a seagate "goflex" external disk a while back22:52
thafreakand hadn't really used it heavily...had it just plugged into a server somewhere22:52
thafreakthe usb on it kept like going to sleep or something, so the drive would disconnect/reconnect every 20 minutes or so22:52
thafreakreally frustrating trying to rely on it22:52
thafreakso i pulled it and it's been sitting here22:53
thafreakwell on the box it said it was upgradable to usb 3.0, but i never thought to try and pop the base off22:53
thafreakjust now pulled it off, it's a standard sata interface on there...can plug in a normal usb->sata adapter i bet22:53
paultagyo thafreak23:23
paultagthafreak: you got a pelican case, right?23:24
thafreakyesir23:42
thafreakit's alot smaller than i was picturing23:43
thafreak(that's what she said)23:43
thafreakgah...i always forget how HORRIBLY long an fsck on a 2TB fs takes!!!23:55

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