[02:50] paultag: #682050 ^_^ [02:52] gilbert: hahaha what a dickhead [02:57] in a good way [02:57] gilbert: thanks for helping to take care of something that's important :) [02:57] (pretty core package there) [03:06] true [03:06] i seem to be able to find all the pain points...also dealing with an rc issue in python2.6 [03:07] the thing is that the change is so incredibly mindless. its just reverting a patch that broke a bunch of stuff [03:09] bleh [03:09] also, why the heck are we shipping 2.6 on wheezy [03:09] such a stupid move [03:14] dunno, historically there have been two python2.x's shipped with every release [03:14] really the issue is that some stuff didn't get ported to 2.7 in time...but oh well [03:22] gilbert: 2.6 is EOL'd [03:22] gilbert: and supporting that prevents 3.x migration, and wheezy has 3.x support [03:23] we shouldn't ship EOL'd software, since it'll be 2 years EOL'd by wheezy EOL [03:28] alright, bbl, one love [03:35] i totally agree. don't blame me. blame the crazy python maintainer situation that the tech committee did absolutely nothing about [14:21] gilbert++ [14:47] gilbert: I've been screwing around with some code in my hotel - http://graph.lucifer.pault.ag/ [14:47] gilbert: enter two uids (paultag / gilbert) [14:47] mgilbert* :) [15:47] so say some one has a customer...and they don't want to host their email with google...because well they fear google having their data [15:48] are there any other hosted email providers that are worth a crap? Also, outlook.com/office365 is out of question... [15:58] thafreak: yahoo does hosted email... it's not *that* bad. [16:15] yahoo mail is terrible, don't know about hosted, but I don't trust someone who wants to make you pay to transfer your data away from their free service :/ [16:29] I think we might be leaning towards running our own email server in a vps or something... [16:30] :/ [16:30] better than running it there at their premises...then i don't have to deal with the crappy dsl stuff [19:28] paultag: I think I did something evil here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=693147 [19:31] skellat: :) [19:31] skellat: next, prepare a fix :) [19:31] skellat: oh, maintainer is a cool guy. [19:32] There's no new stable to jump to yet, though [19:32] It is in its 3rd public beta as Twitter API 1.1 is apparently a pain in the ass [19:33] mmm, auye [19:34] I've followed most of the discussion from Cameron Kaiser's end for what Twitter's done to their bloody API and there are still issues he's trying to fix [19:34] I filed a release critical bug just to be sure the older version does not make it into the Wheezy release [19:35] The two big breakers between versions are handling Twitter rate limits and coping with t.co which Dr. Kaiser is having to outright rebuild handling for [19:39] Suggestions? [19:39] I actually do have some level of contact with the upstream on this one. [19:41] skellat: I'd get in touch with the Debian release team [19:41] skellat: it's already in wheezy, you should make sure the release team knows and removes from wheezy or allows this new upstream through [19:41] #debian-release on ofct [19:42] oftc [19:48] Crap...government officials on the line...be back later... [19:57] Sounds fun... [19:57] o.O [21:13] thafreak: postfix/dovecot/squirrelmail isn't too bad once you beat postfix and dovecot into submission. [21:14] * canthus13 is still having occasional problems with them trying to fight back. :/ [21:23] paultag: Still around? [21:28] * skellat is glad to be done for the day talking with part-time zoning inspectors who deliberately have no voice mail and practically unstaffed yet still existing on paper planning agencies about home building [21:31] * skellat wanders off for more household duties [21:39] canthus13: yeah, actually, ubuntu has a meta pkg called postfix-dovecot...or dovecot-postfix [21:39] i forget [21:39] but it automagically configures everythin for you and sets it all up to use pam auth [21:39] so your shell accounts can use imap [21:40] i'm actually a big fan of dbmail, but lately it's imap server has some memory leak problems that are causing me un-ending grief [21:41] heh. [22:52] so i bought a seagate "goflex" external disk a while back [22:52] and hadn't really used it heavily...had it just plugged into a server somewhere [22:52] the usb on it kept like going to sleep or something, so the drive would disconnect/reconnect every 20 minutes or so [22:52] really frustrating trying to rely on it [22:53] so i pulled it and it's been sitting here [22:53] well on the box it said it was upgradable to usb 3.0, but i never thought to try and pop the base off [22:53] just now pulled it off, it's a standard sata interface on there...can plug in a normal usb->sata adapter i bet [23:23] yo thafreak [23:24] thafreak: you got a pelican case, right? [23:42] yesir [23:43] it's alot smaller than i was picturing [23:43] (that's what she said) [23:55] gah...i always forget how HORRIBLY long an fsck on a 2TB fs takes!!!