[00:00] <fireshibby> I personally don't know when it comes to linux. If i had the same problem i'd be able to guide you through. I'll keep searching for a solution though
[00:00] <Guest72402> is it possible to have someone log onto my computer and check out the settings or something?
[00:00] <AzureX> so quick question, with the amd catalyst driver 12.10 my graphics card is always on in integrated mode (power saving) even when playing games, stressing the hardware, --px-dpgu doesnt change it, performance is terrible
[00:00] <lollko> na ja
[00:01] <fireshibby> AzureX i have the same problem on my laptop. It's terrible. I just installed Gnome 3
[00:01] <AzureX> i had it working earlier but cant remember how i fixed it
[00:02] <fireshibby> probably some settings in the catalyst control panel. I was personally too lazy and missed the old gnome interface
[00:03] <Rizon> attempts to load the driver manually
[00:03] <edmomcz> good night
[00:04] <endguy> so I've just installed 12.10 and nvidia-current or nvidia-current-updates do not work at all. They were working on my previous install of 12.04. The only thing different is that I install an SSD hard drive and the latest Ubuntu release. What can I try to fix this?
[00:16] <lapion> is there anywhere I can find a list of recent ubuntu updates ?
[00:20] <sIIIut> hi
[00:20] <StarryNight> hi
[00:21] <n0sq> is there a way to change emesene so that it doesn't show me as invisible at startup?
[00:26] <Ben64> How can I change the theme or modify it in Gnome Classic?
[00:33] <Rizon> gnome-look.org has some amazing themes in her bag
[00:35] <Ben64> but _how_ do I change it
[00:35] <Ben64> nothing seems to have any effect
[00:37] <bluefox83> having permissions problems with ubuntu server, trying to get /var/www to let me create files...or atleast move them to that dir but it's not letting me
[00:37] <Rizon> If you use Ubuntu 12.04 install gnome-panel
[00:37] <blackshirt> bluefox83, are you familiar with linux permissions?
[00:38] <cloudy> bluefox83, have you tried it with sudo mv?
[00:38] <bluefox83> blackshirt: yeah, but i'm kinda crummy at using them...
[00:38] <bluefox83> cloudy: if i need sudo...then it kind of defeats the purpose...
[00:38] <bluefox83> i'm trying to set it up so i can put files there with my ftp program
[00:39] <Rizon> gksudo is good
[00:40] <bluefox83> soooooo....
[00:40] <krishna> Is it possible to do a minimal install from the standard desktop cd?
[00:40] <Scunizi> I have 2 printers installed.  One USB and one networked.  The USB printer is off but still plugged in and constantly shows as the default despite me changing it in the printer appelate and at http://localhost:631.  How do I eliminate the USB from showing as the default printer?
[00:40] <jrogge> Hi, I'm pretty new to ubuntu, and I'm running it on a mac. I'm trying to change the keyboard settings, and am being directed by this guide:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleKeyboard However, I don't have permissions to edit fnmode in sys/module/hid_apple/parameters. I am logged into a user the is in sudoers, but I don't know how to get permissions. do I have to log as root to edit this?
[00:41] <Ben64> !sudo | jrogge
[00:41] <Scunizi> jrogge: whatever the command is preface it with sudo.. so to edit a file = sudo /sys/module/hid_apple/parameters
[00:42] <jrogge> okay, so I have to do this through terminal. I was trying to do it through the ubunut file manager (ubuntu explorer? what ever the default is)
[00:42] <Scunizi> jrogge: however are you running ubuntu in a VM? or have you replaced the iOS on your MAC?
[00:43] <jrogge> I have it as a seperate partition on my mac
[00:43] <cloudy> bluefox83, do you know how to check the owner of /var/www ?
[00:43] <Scunizi> jrogge: you can do it through the file manager but you have to start it from terminal.. gksudo nautilus
[00:44] <Rizon> or!! ALT + F2 > gksudo nautilus and yeah =)
[00:44] <Scunizi> jrogge: actually.. from terminal it's sudo nano /path/to/file
[00:44] <blackshirt> bluefox83, add your ftp user to www-data group, and give them appropriate access
[00:45] <bluefox83> blackshirt: i actually did that already...
[00:46] <Scunizi> Rizon: I forgot about alt+f2.. thought that was only on kde systems (what I run ;)  )
[00:46] <bluefox83> btw how to i check to see what the ftp user is, it should be my username right?
[00:46] <Grimhound> What is the general channel?
[00:46] <bluefox83> *do
[00:47] <jrogge> thank you, that worked
[00:48] <keith_> Can I ask for assistance regarding installation of MATLAB here?
[00:49] <scared> why do i get this when i apt-get update?
[00:49] <scared> Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ubuntu-archives.mirror.nexicom.net_dists_precise_main_binary-amd64_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[00:49] <bluefox83> there needs to be one simple way for me to set up a website from my local network on my local ubuntu server box...
[00:50] <Scunizi> bluefox83: sure.. wanna code it yourself? or use something like Joomla?
[00:50] <trism> scared: either you hit the mirror at a bad time (in the middle of an update) or it is a bad mirror, try again in a few minutes
[00:50] <bluefox83> Scunizi: i'm pretty sure i got it up an running already (apache2) but the directory isn't letting me add things properly...
[00:51] <bluefox83> and i have no idea why :/
[00:51] <bluefox83> how do i add a user to group www-data?
[00:52] <blackshirt> bluefox83, are you upload it with ftp client ?
[00:52] <_DanN_> adduser <user> www-data
[00:52] <_DanN_> bluefox83: adduser <user> www-data
[00:52] <bluefox83> blackshirt: yeah i can actually move it to another directory...just not the website dir
[00:52] <_DanN_> bluefox83: you must be root
[00:53] <Scunizi> bluefox83: in what way?
[00:53] <Basil1x> I just did a clean install of 12.04LTS.  Now I cannot install DeVeDe.  it says the version of libavcodec-extra-53 should be 4.0.8.4.  the most recent version is 4.0.8.3, according to sourceforge.  How do I either get the real latest version, or force Ubuntu not to uninstall half my programs when I switch form libavcodec53 to libavcocec-extra-53?
[00:53] <blackshirt> bluefox83, actually, i mean moving it with mv command or with ftp to upload your files to that dir ?
[00:54] <bluefox83> well i have a dir in my home dir called ftp i can ftp to it, drop the files in there, and everything is fine...i just can't move the files to /var/www
[00:54] <blackshirt> bluefox83, commonly sudo was enought to tackle them
[00:54] <Scunizi> bluefox83: to add a user to anther group.. go to that group in "settings" and do it there.  You'll see the users listed and put a tic mark next to the one you want.
[00:54] <jrib> Basil1x: what says?  What did you execute *exactly*?
[00:54] <bluefox83> Scunizi: i'm working on a server, not desktop >.>
[00:55] <Scunizi> bluefox83: ah.. sorry.. forgot . hang on.
[00:55] <blackshirt> bluefox83, yes,that true... /var/www was under root controls
[00:55] <bluefox83> blackshirt: yeah, was
[00:55] <bluefox83> i made my user owner
[00:55] <bluefox83> complete owner
[00:55] <blackshirt> you can,t upload to it with normal user
[00:55] <bluefox83> of the directory and everything in it
[00:55] <bluefox83> and i still can't cp or mv anything to it
[00:56] <scared> i keep getting this error
[00:56] <scared> E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-archives.mirror.nexicom.net_dists_precise-updates_main_i18n_Translation-en, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.'
[00:56] <bluefox83> unless i use sudo, which is rediculous
[00:56] <scared> how do i change the mirror
[00:57] <bluefox83> scared: go to software center->edit->software sources
[00:57] <Basil1x> jrib: the Software Center will not allow me to install the software I had on my system up until yesterday when my HDD died.  it uninstalls half my programs when I try to install DeVeDe.  the reason is the version of libavcodec-extra-53 in the repository is too low.  There is no higher version I can find.
[00:57] <guliy3v> i removed some libs belongs to ffmpeg while installing MobileMediaConverter after adding medibuntu repo due to package break. how to get ffmpeg back?
[00:57] <jrib> Basil1x: use apt-get and pastebin
[00:58] <Scunizi> bluefox83: sudo user add -G group-name username
[00:58] <Scunizi> bluefox83: sorry .. sudo useradd -G group-name username
[00:58] <jrib> Scunizi: please don't advise that
[00:58] <scared> bluefox: whe ni open up the software center it says  FAILED TO LOAD PACKAGE LIST
[00:58] <jrib> bluefox83: don't run that command
[00:58] <bluefox83> Scunizi: thanks, i've already accomplished that much
[00:59] <Scunizi> jrib: why not if you want to add your user to www-data?
[00:59] <jrib> Scunizi: well first of all, your command doesn't do that
[00:59] <scared> E:Unable to synchronize mmap - msync (28: No space left on device), E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[00:59] <Scunizi> jrib: ok.. so correct me if I'm wrong.. give him the right way to do it.
[00:59] <bluefox83> gawd, the stuff i go through to test my html homework D:
[00:59] <jrib> Scunizi: you're probably thinking of usermod.  But using usermod in the way you advise will remove your user from all other groups.  He already was given the right way: adduser USER GROUP
[01:00] <Ben64> scared: free up some space?
[01:00] <jrib> scared: your partition is out of space most likely
[01:00] <Basil1x> jrib: http://pastebin.com/Z84QDzhs <--- I do notwant these removed
[01:00] <Scunizi> jrib: ok.. I stand corrected. thanks for showing me where I was wrong.
[01:01] <bluefox83> so like i said guys, i added my user to the www-data group and it didn't fix anything...
[01:01] <jrib> Scunizi: it's often the reason you see people end up without sudo access here (they remove themselves from the admin or sudo group) :P
[01:01] <jrib> bluefox83: what are you trying to accomplish?
[01:02] <bluefox83> jrib: moving a file into /var/www with regular user privs
[01:02] <bluefox83> without sudo >.>
[01:02] <jrib> bluefox83: ls -ld /var/www/
[01:02] <xangua> Basil1x: looks like you are using a lot of ppa's
[01:03] <Basil1x> I put most of those on to try to resolve the problem, jrib
[01:03] <Ben64> bluefox83: sudo chown <your user> /var/www
[01:03] <jrib> Basil1x: pastebin the output of « more /etc/apt/sources.list* | cat », « apt-cache policy libavcodec-extra-53 ffmpeg libsox-fmt-base »
[01:03] <bluefox83> drwSrwSrwx 2 bluefox bluefox 4096 Nov 12 19:23 /var/www/
[01:03] <jrib> Basil1x: erm...
[01:03] <Ben64> bluefox83: whats with the permissions there
[01:03] <bluefox83> you got me O.o
[01:03] <jrib> bluefox83: are you just trying things at random?
[01:04] <xangua> Basil1x: you put most of ppa to solve a dependency issue¿ more like one of those ppa caused it
[01:04] <Ben64> bluefox83: chmod 755 /var/www
[01:04] <bluefox83> jrib: for a while i did, yeah...
[01:04] <xangua> jum got lost :/
[01:04] <bluefox83> shouldn't that have a -R ?
[01:04] <krabador> hi people, i would install the latest catalyst driver for my ATI RV350, the 9.3. how can i do it on ubuntu 12.10?
[01:04] <Ben64> bluefox83: nope
[01:05] <bluefox83> ok, so cp works :)
[01:05] <Basil1x> jrib: http://pastebin.com/3hVkcaT0
[01:06] <cordyceps> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354539/
[01:06] <bluefox83> it works perfectly now! you guys keep this up and i'll enlist you in my calculus homework too! :P
[01:06] <Scunizi> bluefox83: #math for that :)
[01:07] <bluefox83> lol
[01:07] <cordyceps> cant connect to free wifi at Mcdonalds. Wicd gui says "No wireless found" but here's iwlist scan output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354539/
[01:07] <jrib> Basil1x: that's only half of what I asked.  But now I want to know this too: « more /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list | cat »
[01:07] <bluefox83> i need to finish this one html5/css assignment first...then i'll see about some calc/trig
[01:07] <Basil1x> jrib and: http://pastebin.com/uWRKnPcr
[01:07] <Gerowen> Anybody know details of how the "Create disk image" option in "Disks" works?  Somebody on the forums is asking.
[01:09] <g00053> can anyone recommend a bash irc client
[01:09] <Ben64> irssi
[01:09] <Scunizi> g00053: irssi
[01:09] <Basil1x> jrib here's the last one : http://pastebin.com/D9yfYcDf
[01:09] <jrib> g00053: weechat and irssi are popular
[01:10] <Rizon> use k3b guy
[01:10] <g00053> many thanks
[01:10] <Scunizi> g00053: combine either with screen
[01:11] <g00053> Scunizi, not sure what you mean.
[01:13] <dijonyummy> is there a way to set my dns servers via command line, not via the etc/resolv but some other way?
[01:14] <dijonyummy> after i initiate a vpn via command line, i need to set my dns servers
[01:14] <dijonyummy> since its via command line, i cant use the vpn tab in network connection manager
[01:16] <KI4RO> SMUXI works well for me
[01:17] <Scunizi> dijonyummy: and why not use /etc/resolv?
[01:17] <jrib> Basil1x: would take some more investigating to figure out the exact issue.  I don't have time right now.  If no one else can help at the moment, just accept and then try to re-install the things you want (like vlc) to see if you can gain some further knowledge.  You'll probably have to check out conflicts and such (apt-cache show).  It could be because of medibuntu, if you want to disable that and downgrade
[01:17] <jrib> whatever packages you have from there.
[01:18] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> Hi, when does a process step into sleep state?
[01:18] <dijonyummy> because in ubuntu, it gets overriden
[01:19] <Scunizi> dijonyummy: because of networkmanager?
[01:19] <dijonyummy> hmm, yeah
[01:20] <jrib> !resolvconf | dijonyummy
[01:20] <Basil1x> Thanks
[01:20] <Scunizi> dijonyummy: I have in the past uninstalled network manager and manually setup the connection.  For a static system that's ok and it would make it easier to change via vpn
[01:21] <n0sq> is there a way to change emesene so that it doesn't show me as invisible at startup?
[01:21] <dijonyummy> ok thanks i'll look at that link!
[01:22] <n0sq> can a network upgrade to a new distro be done like i use to do with mandriva?
[01:22] <krabador> hi people, i need to install catalyst 9.3 on ubuntu 12.10
[01:22] <n0sq> or do i have to do a fresh install?
[01:22] <krabador> how can i do it?
[01:22] <gustav__> I have no idea.
[01:24] <pedr0ubuntu> to diplay all app in startup (ubuntu)
[01:24] <pedr0ubuntu> sudo sed --in-place 's/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g' *.desktop
[01:24] <scared> how do i add more space?
[01:26] <pedr0ubuntu> to display all app in startup (ubuntu)
[01:26] <pedr0ubuntu> sudo sed --in-place 's/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g' *.desktop
[01:27] <scared> Unable to synchronize mmap - msync (28: no space left)
[01:27] <scared> how do i add mroe space to my partion?
[01:28] <scared> everywhere says i need synaptics or another program which i cant DL cuz i ahve no space :S
[01:28] <Ben64> scared: pastebin the output of both "df -h" and "sudo fdisk -l"
[01:29] <scared> also my ubuntu is dead slow :s
[01:29] <Ben64> thats what happens when you have no space
[01:29] <Scunizi> might need to eliminate some old kernels too.
[01:31] <scared> heres my pastebin
[01:31] <scared> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354570/
[01:31] <scared> i know de/loop is full how do i make it bigger
[01:32] <scared> dev
[01:32] <Ben64> oh you're running with wubi
[01:32] <CrazyHorse18> s there a command i can run that will create a user that does not have the ability to login or ssh (i.e. purely just for file permissions and running processes) unless it already exists
[01:32] <CrazyHorse18> is*
[01:32] <scared> yes wubi
[01:33] <servvs> you could try gorups CrazyHorse18
[01:33] <scared> but then i reset my windows 7 so i no longer have wubi
[01:33] <CrazyHorse18> servvs: yeah, need to use user.. it's a requirement
[01:35] <FusionHammer> Question: Does anyone know how to shot boot messages during the boot cycle?  Boot into Xen 4.1 is locking up and I want to know what it is hanging on.
[01:35] <FusionHammer> show*
[01:35] <cordyceps> Can't connect to free wifi at McDonalds w/wicd. Wicd gui says "No wireless found" but iwlist found it http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354539/
[01:36] <cordyceps> here's 200 last lines from /var/log/wicd http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354573/
[01:36] <WeThePeople> cant figure out why filezilla or gftp cant connect to server.. any ideas
[01:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> Hi, I know this will sound vague but im sure there was something called 'window' or similar that made you able to, when you're ssh'd into a server, run a process without it getting cancelled when you close the ssh terminal
[01:39] <gustav__> screen.
[01:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> gustav__: and how to get focus back?
[01:41] <debian> j
[01:41] <gustav__> WhereIsMySpoon: screen -r.
[01:42] <Guest80277> im  new hi
[01:42] <cordyceps> Can't connect to free wifi at McDonalds w/wicd. Wicd gui says "No wireless found" but iwlist found it http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354539/ and here's the last 200 lines from wicd log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354573 It seems to connect momentarily then disconnects. Wifi works at home OK.
[01:43] <gustav__> cordyceps: Get a disc antenna.
[01:43] <gustav__> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-P4dj5HB7CRI/TiZW8Ka-YQI/AAAAAAAAA2M/6VqxoI_gxms/s1600/dish-antenna.jpg
[01:45] <Guest80277> por que mis mensajes no salen
[01:45] <celso> hi people! does enyone here uses zram on ubuntu?
[01:46] <dr_willis> !info zram
[01:48] <dr_willis> WhereIsMySpoon:  also check out 'tmux' and 'byobu'  =  byobu is the easiest to learn
[01:48] <elninja> Really? The Ubuntu 12.10 Desktop Edition ISOs are ~50MB too large for a CD?
[01:48] <dr_willis> elninja:  they are for dvds now
[01:49] <celso> actually, it exists in ubuntu 12.04.  Its zram-config
[01:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> strange, i cant seem to do anything with screen
[01:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> im doing commands, but it says "cannot exec"
[01:49] <dr_willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/its-official-the-ubuntu-livecd-is-dead
[01:49] <dr_willis> WhereIsMySpoon:  normally you just run 'screen' and it gives you a new 'shell' with extra features
[01:50] <dr_willis> WhereIsMySpoon:  same for byobu, or tmux.
[01:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> ah
[01:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> i was doing stuff like screen "blah stuff etc"
[01:50] <dr_willis> if you wan tto use screen you WILL want to spend some time learning it
[01:50] <WhereIsMySpoon> as if it was a program
[01:50] <dr_willis> as i said byobu is easier to learn/use
[01:51] <dr_willis> byobu is a  tweaked screen or tmux setup to be more user/beginner friendly  look
[01:51] <elninja> Yeah, I'm just bitching because I'm too lazy to look for a blank DVD or USB drive.
[01:51] <dr_willis> elninja:  the server edition aparently still fits on a cd.
[01:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> hm, screen seems to fit what i want to do
[01:52] <dr_willis> i think lubuntu may also fit on a cd.. need to verify that
[01:52] <elninja> Looks like 12.04 does too, and I can always upgrade from there.
[01:52] <cordyceps> Can't connect to free wifi at McDonalds w/wicd. Wicd gui says "No wireless found" but iwlist found it http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354539/ and here's the last 200 lines from wicd log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354573 It seems to connect momentarily then disconnects. Wifi works at home OK.
[01:52] <dr_willis> lubuntu = 692mb
[01:53] <dr_willis> id rather install lubuntu, then install whatever you want.. then upgrade from 12.04
[01:53] <dr_willis> id rather install lubuntu 12.10 , then install whatever you want.. easier then upgradeing...
[01:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> aha, and detach
[01:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> lovely
[01:55] <dmckell> Help! New install here.  I'm trying to install fglrx via "sudo apt-get install fglrx"   Install is successful. After reboot, I log in and get only the wallpaper.  Any ideas?
[01:56] <elninja> I'll check out Lubuntu and LXDE
[01:56] <elninja> thanks
[01:56] <cherr> trying to mount an iso. its a fairly old iso from windows, so i % sudo mount -f fat32 -o loop blahblah.iso /mnt/blah. all i get is a bunch of instructions and information on mounting back from the terminal, and it did not seem to mount anything. any help?
[01:56] <blackshirt> great
[01:57] <blackshirt> why passing fat32, just passing-o loop i think it was enought
[01:57] <cordyceps> cherr: it's mount -t etc
[01:57] <cherr> cordyceps so i start my line with mount -t then the rest of what i had?
[01:58] <cordyceps>  oh, and vfat for f32
[01:58] <cherr> ahhhh
[01:58] <cherr> ok
[01:58] <cherr> what should be the return from terminal if it is a successful mount?
[01:58] <blackshirt> cherr, nothing error return
[01:59] <blackshirt> Just checks your mount pount
[01:59] <cordyceps> nothing IIRC, then ls to see the files
[01:59] <cherr> thanks guys
[01:59] <blackshirt> point
[01:59] <Takophiliac> i'm trying to get syslog to log messages to my console,
[01:59] <Takophiliac> but i'm having no success
[02:00] <cherr> hmm, so sudo mount -t -f vfat -o loop blahblah.iso /mnt/blah
[02:00] <cherr> ?
[02:00] <cordyceps> what's the -f for?
[02:00] <cordyceps> -t means file type
[02:01] <cherr> don't i need that to tell it the filesystem?
[02:01] <cherr> oh
[02:01] <cordyceps> -t
[02:01] <cherr> lol
[02:01] <cordyceps> no -f
[02:01] <PoolShark_> question
[02:01] <blackshirt> cherr, -o loop was enought for iso files
[02:01] <PoolShark_> what happens when linux runs out of letters to represent hard disks?
[02:02] <Takophiliac> I have *.emerg      :omusrmsg:* in 50-default.conf yet "logger -p user.emerg "Some message" shows in /var/log/syslog but is never written to any logged in tty or pts
[02:02] <PoolShark_> for example when I have 10 disks on the motherboard, and then 16 more attached to an HBA, for a total of 26 disks?
[02:02] <ImTheDude> hello room
[02:05] <AcidRain2012> anyone know where i can go to decode a lottery ticket barcode? all im trying to do is use either the number on the back, to get the front number, or the number on the front ot get the back number.
[02:05] <AcidRain2012> and thats all! i dont want to type all of these numbers out by hand, it will take years
[02:06] <h00k> AcidRain2012: that question is not appropriate for this channel, please check elsewhere
[02:06] <ImTheDude> hello
[02:06] <AcidRain2012> h00k: ok :(
[02:06] <AcidRain2012> would it make it appropriate if i threw the word ubuntu in it? ;)
[02:06] <h00k> AcidRain2012: no :(
[02:07] <dr_willis> AcidRain2012:  id bet theres somehting in the android market.. ;P
[02:07] <dr_willis> PoolShark_:  i belive it will go to sdaa sdab sdac and so on...
[02:08] <dr_willis> PoolShark_:  i cant rember where i saw that at.. but i do recall seeing it come up in here ages ago.
[02:08] <ImTheDude> anyone running ubuntu 10.4
[02:08] <dr_willis> ImTheDude:  you mean 10.04? I imagine people still are.
[02:08] <Takophiliac> time
[02:08] <Takophiliac> mt
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[02:09] <Ant324> Hi everyone I'm considering upgrading from ubuntu 10.04 to 12.10, but I see it uses the 3.5 Linux kernel, does anyone know if it will be updated soon to 3.6? 3.5 is EOL as far as I know...Many thanks
[02:09] <Ben64> ImTheDude: you should just ask your question
[02:10] <ImTheDude> dr_willis: whats a good radio program that will run on ubuntu 10.04
[02:10] <dr_willis> ImTheDude:  depends on what you mean by a 'radio program;
[02:10] <dr_willis>  !info streamtuner
[02:11] <ImTheDude>  dr_willis: i would like to listen to music
[02:11] <gustav__> Don't you get the feeling of being on a poor mans Linux distribution? Like, welfare Linux distribution?
[02:12] <dr_willis> apt-cache search radio stream    shows several
[02:12] <ImTheDude> is that terminal command
[02:12] <dr_willis> yes.....
[02:12] <dr_willis> or use the package manager tools to search for what you want.
[02:13] <dr_willis> !info tunapie
[02:13] <Ben64> How can I change the theme or modify it in 12.04 Gnome Classic? Nothing I do seems to change anything.
[02:13] <chalcedony> my husband upgraded from ubuntu 10.10 to 12.04, he uses korganizer, can someone walk me through copying whatever to preserve his calendar?
[02:14] <dr_willis>  !info streamtuner2
[02:15]  * chalcedony waves to dr_willis :))
[02:15] <cordyceps> Can't connect to free wifi at McDonalds w/wicd. Wicd gui says "No wireless found" but iwlist found it http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354539/ and here's the last 200 lines from wicd log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354573 It seems to connect momentarily then disconnects. Wifi works at home OK.
[02:17] <dr_willis> err.. so it is connecting. ;)
[02:17] <Ant324> Hi everyone I'm considering upgrading from ubuntu 10.04 to 12.10, but I see it uses the 3.5 Linux kernel, does anyone know if it will be updated soon to 3.6? 3.5 is EOL as far as I know...Many thanks
[02:18] <dr_willis> cant say that ive heard of 3.5 being EOL.
[02:20] <Ant324> dr_willis, The latest stable 3.5 version of the Linux kernel is: 3.5.7 (EOL)
[02:21] <dr_willis> of course 13.04 will be here in  a few months. ;)
[02:22] <Ant324> dr_willis, that wasn't to me was it?
[02:22] <frank> Greetings, I am running pinguyos (which I'm pretty sure is ubuntu 12.04)  I run it  t  work where I have limited internet access (certain firewall rules block certain traffic)  When I try to upgrade I get the broken header error which I'm told is caused by repo's getting blocked then my upgrade fails.  My question is...Is there a way to get the upgrade files from another PC and then run it on my work PC?
[02:22] <cbrain> 12.10 can't even run smoothly in a vm
[02:23] <cbrain> this is a disaster
[02:24] <dr_willis> frank:  pinguy  its own support rooms/channels. .   You can upgrade with a 12.10 cd/dvd BUT from what ive seen in the past you dont upgrade Non-ubuntu variants using the ubuntu media. it can break things badly
[02:24] <frank> ahhh thank you I appreciate the help.  Thats good to know
[02:24] <dr_willis> frank:  of course i really dont see much need for pinguy any more. i played with it in the past.
[02:25] <dr_willis> but trying to do relase upgrades from pinguy, or other variants can  be prone to failure
[02:26] <frank> I like all the desktop pomp and circumstance.  I was an Ubuntu UE fan but it seems to be getting sloppy
[02:26] <blackness> UE?
[02:26] <gustav__> cbrain: Define smooth.
[02:27] <frank> ultimate edition
[02:27] <blackness> oh, never heard of it..
[02:27] <dr_willis> ubuntu variants seem to pop up like mushrooms after a rain. ;)  then vanish just as fast.
[02:28] <Ant324> Hi everyone I'm considering upgrading from ubuntu 10.04 to 12.10, but I see it uses the 3.5 Linux kernel, does anyone know if it will be updated soon to 3.6? 3.5 is EOL as far as I know...Many thanks
[02:28] <frank> hehe good analogy
[02:30] <frank> Has anyone been able to get verizon wireless broadband working on any variant of ubuntu (I have Pantech UML290) just cant get it going?
[02:30] <Ben64> Ant324: you should just go to 12.04 so you won't have to upgrade every 6 months
[02:31] <_Brett_> how do you connect to it?
[02:31] <_Brett_> frank
[02:31] <frank> yes
[02:31] <MrCrumbs> Question... I am fixing to do an install on a virgin hard drive... The laptops old hard drive and OS was Windows 7 64-bit... I am putting the newest version of Ubuntu on it.. Should I go with the 32 bit version or the 64 bit version?
[02:31] <_Brett_> is it a usb stick?
[02:31] <frank> yes
[02:31] <Ant324> Ben64, Yes, that is best, thanks for the advice, but my question remains
[02:31] <_Brett_> oh. that sucks
[02:31] <celthunder> MrCrumbs: depends if you have a 64 bit processor 64
[02:32] <MrCrumbs> it is a 64 bit... i believe lol... AMB A6
[02:32] <MrCrumbs> AMD*
[02:33] <_Brett_> back in the day i had a usb homepna adapter (phoneline networking). could never get it to work on linux
[02:33] <ImTheDude> dr_willis: those were all media players
[02:33] <dr_willis> MrCrumbs:  i tend to always use 64bit os on 64bit hardware.
[02:34] <frank> It would be great if I could get it going.  Upgrades would be easy then.  No damn firewall or webfilter to deal with
[02:34] <dr_willis> ImTheDude:  i use tunapie to listen to shoutcast radio streams all the time.. Im not sure what exactly you are looking for.. use the software center and package manager tools  search feature to look for wha tyou want.
[02:34] <MrCrumbs> That's what my gut was telling me.. A buddy suggested to use the 32 bit.. I figured I would ask the Ubuntu gods :P
[02:34] <niriven> hi im getting some really funky "artifacts" all over (video), if i push my mouse over certian thing sin ecipse, the ubuntu software center, images / text get jumbled pretty badly (like white noise), but eventually it comes back to normal and does it again. i tried to screenshot it but the screenshot is turning out okay. not sure else how to explain it?
[02:34] <dr_willis> MrCrumbs:  i dont see much reason to stick to 32bit on 64bit hardware these days
[02:35] <Ben64> the last plausible reason I saw to stay on 32 bit was flash player
[02:35] <Ben64> but that has worked on 64 bit for quite some time now
[02:35] <dr_willis> with  the flash-video replacer and downloader plugns.. ;) i rarely even need flash these days.
[02:35] <celthunder> Ben64: eol for almost a year now...use html5 or stop visiting crappy sites
[02:35] <_Brett_> frank, have you tried ndiswrapper?
[02:35] <MrCrumbs> I know that Linux Mnt 13 didn't work worth a crap on it.. 32 or 64 bit
[02:36] <dr_willis> night all...
[02:37] <blackshirt> morning dr_willis
[02:37] <MrCrumbs> Does Ubuntu do formats on virgin hard drives?
[02:38] <niriven> infact i even tried arch linux and i was getting the same issue, im wondering if it could be a video driver problem? the initial install everything seemed okay.
[02:38]  * Laice has just learned to love Guake and Irssi
[02:39] <MrCrumbs> anyone know?
[02:40] <blackness> yes MrCrumbs
[02:41] <blackness> it'll format a virgin drive, if you mean a 'fresh out of the box' drive.
[02:46] <DarKMode> MrCrumbs yes you can
[02:47] <blackness> DarKMode, he left.
[02:47] <DarKMode> :)
[02:47] <DarKMode> i have the left messages turned off
[02:49] <cjae> vlc keeps losing audio sync
[02:50] <blackness> does mplayer?
[02:50] <cjae> dont have it installed
[02:50] <blackness> test your audio with mplayer
[02:50] <blackness> or is it just VLC that acts this way?
[02:51] <cjae> rewinding one second fixes sync
[02:51] <gustav__> All files or one (1) file?
[02:51] <cjae> different files
[02:51] <gustav__> All the same?
[02:51] <cjae> nope
[02:52] <blackness> just audio files? or audio/video files?
[02:52] <gustav__> One (1) ok?
[02:52] <cjae> a/v files as far as I know, dont know how only audio files would lose sync
[02:53] <blackness> does youtube act up in this manor?
[02:53] <cjae> nope
[02:53] <blackness> sounds like VLC is to blame, try mplayer, or update VLC from source if its old.
[02:53] <cjae> well maybe if I played something long wnough
[02:53] <blackness> explain.
[02:54] <cjae> well most of sync issue happens after about 12 -20 mins
[02:54] <blackshirt> wew,maap,ada perlu
[02:55] <cjae> most utube videos are only 9 mins long
[02:55] <blackness> oh...
[02:55] <blackness> test mplayer and see if it does this, does it do this when you seek forward 15+ mins?
[02:56] <cjae> never tried just was looking for an answer to fix since  I assumed lots of ppl here use vlc
[02:57] <blackness> I use mplayer.. :P
[02:57] <cjae> google doesnt seems to have any relevant answers
[02:57] <blackness> VLC has always had issues for me..its never worked right for me.
[02:57] <blackness> i believe im going to play some COD-MW3..later fellas.
[02:59] <mitch|mobile> Try running ubuntu on 16K ram. :P
[02:59] <blackness> 16K or 16G?
[03:00] <kamelot314> Getting back from KDE to XFCE! :)
[03:00] <blackshirt> greats kamelot314
[03:02] <mitch|mobile> Blackness, 16K
[03:03] <blackness> wow. 16K is old
[03:04] <mitch|mobile> Ik
[03:04] <blackness> update ;)
[03:04] <cherr> jesus, and i thought my 1g was getting old
[03:04] <blackness> my server is 16G, my notebooks are 4G :P
[03:04] <mitch|mobile> It's another box that has not seen the light of day since the 90s, which was before I was born
[03:05] <cherr> you were born after 2000?
[03:05] <blackness> why would you setup a server on specs that old?
[03:05] <blackshirt> thats not a matter
[03:05] <mitch|mobile> Cherr, actually, late 1999, but still
[03:06] <cherr> lol i see. why even bother with a box that old?
[03:06] <mitch|mobile> Blackness, it can run DOS fine
[03:06] <mitch|mobile> Cherr, idk
[03:06] <cherr> lol
[03:06] <mitch|mobile> I got bored.
[03:06] <mitch|mobile> It takes tapes o.o
[03:07] <kamelot314> well, DOS was running fine on my 286 bakc in the time
[03:07] <kamelot314> with only 4k of memory
[03:07] <blackshirt> linux too ...
[03:07] <kamelot314> yup!
[03:08] <mitch|mobile> But was it made in the 90s
[03:08] <kamelot314> you should try Blackbox or any lightweight Windows Manager first!
[03:08] <mitch|mobile> :|
[03:11] <ubuntuLearner> i need help unistalling a application from ubuntu
[03:12] <chaingun> do you want to do it from the command line or through the ubuntu software center?
[03:12] <mitch|mobile> Terminal --> sudo apt-get remove (package name)
[03:12] <blackshirt> ubuntulearner, you can do it with a lot of ways
[03:13] <ubuntuLearner> GUVCViewer is the app i would like to unistall. This package name is not listed in the package list
[03:14] <blackshirt> ubuntulearner, where do you installed it from ?
[03:14] <ubuntuLearner> blackshirt i installed it through software center
[03:15] <blackshirt> if you install it from main repository through software center, you should find them
[03:15] <ubuntuLearner> when i tried "sudo apt-get remove guvcviewer" it shows unable to locate package
[03:16] <Logan_> ubuntuLearner: You probably meant guvcview.
[03:16] <blackshirt> !info guvcviewer
[03:16] <blackshirt> !info guvcview
[03:16] <blackshirt> !info guvcview | ubuntulearner
[03:17] <blackness> wow, ubuntu-tweak flipped my mouse :x
[03:17] <ubuntuLearner> when i run the above command it sows "event not found"
[03:18] <ubuntuLearner> ubottu , blackshirt on running the command it shows "event not found"
[03:18] <ner0x> Any good non-gnome/kde gantt chart programs?
[03:19] <ubuntuLearner> blackshirt any other means i can uinstall?
[03:20] <ubuntuLearner> quit
[03:24] <green_16> when i trying to install new apps, it shows waiting for apt-get to exit. what can i do?
[03:25] <gogeta> green_16: annoying isn't it
[03:26] <gogeta> green_16: the updater sometimes puts it in use
[03:26] <green_16> i don't know what's going on....any solution?
[03:27] <gogeta> green_16: I just reboot the box or you can find the prowess using it and kill it
[03:28] <green_16> how?
[03:28] <gogeta> green_16: ps -a
[03:29] <gogeta> or top
[03:30] <green_16> it like this, PID TTY          TIME CMD
[03:30] <green_16>  8687 pts/2    00:00:00 ps
[03:30] <gogeta> ps -A
[03:31] <gogeta> it gives a list of everything running
[03:31] <frankko> is there a 10.04.4 netboot image somewhere? i want to try something out.
[03:31] <green_16> ya i saw
[03:31] <Daxter> !old
[03:31] <gogeta> yes its the mini iso
[03:31] <Daxter> old realease.ubuntu.com frankko
[03:31] <Daxter> iirc
[03:32] <frankko> gogeta, where can i find it.. i can only find the old 10.04
[03:32] <Loder> Hi there. Universal USB installer is showing tens of hours remaining on the 7zip phase when I try to put the Ubuntu 12.10 ISO on my flash drive. It's transfering at only a few KB/s. Anyone know what's going on?
[03:32] <Daxter> !old
[03:33] <frankko> daxter release.ubuntu.com = 404
[03:34] <Daxter> oldreleases.ubuntu.com
[03:34] <Daxter> iirc
[03:35] <frankko> also 404
[03:35] <c2tarun> frankko, try this http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/
[03:35] <dormito> Is there a way to set the screen coordiance for an at when you launch it? (like as part of the terminal command)
[03:35] <Daxter> aha...
[03:35] <Daxter> !lucid | frankko
[03:36] <Ray2> old releases ubuntu.com frankko
[03:36] <frankko> dormito, that one is 10.04, not 10.04.4 but perhaps oh well
[03:37] <Daxter> frankko: its updated to 10.04.4, thats how LTS releases are
[03:37] <Daxter> er add .4 to the 10.04 part of ink
[03:38] <Daxter> link*
[03:38] <frankko> Daxter, the links says last altered 2010,23 april.
[03:38] <Daxter> here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04.4/
[03:38] <frankko> i have trouble booting the 10.04.0 release it seems
[03:39] <frankko> Daxter, no netboot/mini.iso there either...
[03:39] <Daxter> yeah dont think ubuntu akes netboot images
[03:39] <Daxter> makes*
[03:39] <Daxter> think thats a debian thing
[03:40] <Daxter> what trouble you have booting?
[03:40] <frankko> i think the optimus crap in my laptop does not like something in the boot process
[03:41] <frankko> Daxter, i have found plenty of netboot images though for ubuntu for all major releases. Just not found the point releases.
[03:41] <frankko> Daxter, like in here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[03:42] <Daxter> darn they do make em
[03:42] <Daxter> i stand corrected
[03:43] <blackness> im building pnmixer, and im getting these errors, any help? checking for alsasound ... no, configure: error: alsa not found
[03:44] <almoxarife> blackness: is alsa sound installed?
[03:44] <blackness> should be, i have the command alsa.
[03:44] <frankko> i will try again.. maybe i get luckier
[03:44] <blackness> alsa-driver cannot be found.
[03:44] <gogeta> blackness: you probly need alsa-devil if.your.compling
[03:45] <almoxarife> blackness: you dont have a proper alsa sound configuration
[03:45] <blackness> no such package.
[03:45] <blackness> almoxarife, explain in detail please..
[03:45] <blackness> my sound works perfectly. just cant compile (obmixer/pnmixer)
[03:45] <almoxarife> blackness: lets assume 'alsa' is installed, purge it and re-install it
[03:46] <gogeta> the Dev package
[03:46] <blackness> which alsa: /sbin/alsa
[03:46] <almoxarife> blackness: are you using 'synaptic'?
[03:46] <blackness> no, apt-get
[03:46] <Ben64> How can I change the theme or modify it in 12.04 Gnome Classic? Nothing I do seems to change anything.
[03:46] <almoxarife> blackness: no the package
[03:46] <blackness> package manager broken from 12.04 to 12.10.
[03:46] <gogeta> almoxarife: he's compiling he probly need the Dev package
[03:46] <blackness> no. im not using synaptic
[03:46] <almoxarife> blackness: are you compiling?
[03:47] <blackness> yes.
[03:47] <almoxarife> blackness: forge4t everything i said
[03:47] <blackness> what package is the devel for alsa-sound?
[03:47] <almoxarife> blackness: compiling also because?
[03:47] <almoxarife> alsa
[03:47] <blackness> im not compiling alsa..im compiling pnmixer.
[03:48] <blackness> https://github.com/nicklan/pnmixer/wiki is what im building.
[03:48] <almoxarife> blackness: add 'dev' is usually a good bet, but i am guessing, it depends on the error shown
[03:48] <blackness> E: Unable to locate package alsa-dev
[03:49] <Ben64> libasound2-dev
[03:49] <blackness> thats it?
[03:49] <Ben64> should be
[03:49] <blackness> how did you find that?
[03:50] <blackness> and yes, that was it ;)
[03:50] <gogeta> yay
[03:50] <almoxarife> blackness: you are compiling an applet?
[03:51] <blackness> yes almoxarife i gave you a URL to what im building.
[03:51] <almoxarife> blackness: yes, been there, sounds great, good luck with that
[03:51] <Ben64> blackness: I found it by "apt-cache search alsa | grep -i dev"
[03:51] <blackness> it worked perfect, bye bye gnome-sound-applet
[03:51] <blackness> :)
[03:52] <blackness> there, my learndrop now has it saved..
[03:52] <blackness> ;)
[03:53] <ubuntu__> hello
[03:53] <frankko> Daxter, i will try updating the boot iso file with my custom 3.6 kernel.
[03:54] <blackness> any ideas why im getting a daily upgrade of boot-repair?
[03:54] <afklinguist> is hulu desktop broken for ubuntu 12.4
[03:56] <FiReBloodPhoeniX> :)
[03:56] <niriven> what is the preferred way to install the nvidia propitary drivers in ubuntu? apt-get install nvidia-current?
[03:56] <almoxarife> niriven: yes
[03:57] <niriven> almoxarife: weird though it iddnt work in 12.10 unless i installed linux-headers-generic first, is this expected?
[03:57] <almoxarife> niriven: there are two headers for the kernel, installed both?
[03:58] <FiReBloodPhoeniX> i do windows batsh ,is scripting in lunix hard to learn?
[03:58] <niriven> almoxarife: no installed nvidia-current first, rebooted, unity didnt load, read online, apt-get install kernel-headers-generic, reinstall nvidia-current, everything worked.
[03:59] <almoxarife> niriven: i have always included the headers with ubuntu kernels, so i cant say
[03:59] <almoxarife> niriven: it worked, thats what counts :)
[04:00] <niriven> almoxarife: true, thanks :)
[04:00] <FiReBloodPhoeniX>  i do windows batsh ,is scripting in lunix hard to learn?
[04:01] <DaveR> FiReBloodPhoeniX, not especially, although the two are very different
[04:01] <niriven> also maybe dumb question, any idea whats being 'tracked', the privacy tab says emails, images, etc.
[04:02] <FiReBloodPhoeniX> jap i see the file system to start off is very different
[04:03] <DaveR> well yeah, windows and linux are horses of a different color for sure
[04:03] <almoxarife> niriven: tracked via a web browser?
[04:04] <niriven> almoxarife: not sure, under privacy i have an option to turn off "do not record activity for" things like vidoe, email, website, messaging, etc. wonder what that means.
[04:05] <afklinguist> how can i track an error from a program that force closes as soon as i click it
[04:05] <almoxarife> afklinguist: run it from terminal
[04:05] <FiReBloodPhoeniX> i can put commands in the konsole... but i have no idea how to make scripts and run them,id probably Google it
[04:05] <DaveR> look up shell scripting
[04:05] <DaveR> FiReBloodPhoeniX ^^
[04:05] <almoxarife> niriven: where do you see that option?
[04:06] <niriven> 12.10, press the windows key, type privacy, theres a tab called files.
[04:06] <FiReBloodPhoeniX> DaveR: Thanks
[04:07] <FiReBloodPhoeniX> Im off to Water my Windows 8 :-D See l8r
[04:08] <blackness> where is xorg.conf located on a default install? (12.10)?
[04:08] <almoxarife> niriven: sounds like desktop option to keep some of your pers info from being recorded
[04:09] <aeon-ltd> blackness: doesn't exist til you generate it
[04:09] <aeon-ltd> blackness: it should be in /etc/X11/xorg.conf when you do
[04:10] <blackness> ahh thanks m8
[04:10] <aeon-ltd> no prob
[04:11] <blackness> brb
[04:13] <[Ch4m3l30n]> Does Ubuntu 12.10 include Kernel 3.3 or is it still on 3.2?
[04:14] <xangua> !info linux | [Ch4m3l30n]
[04:15] <WishArt> Howdy? Any clue how to know the application version on Ubuntu Software Center? Thx.
[04:15] <[Ch4m3l30n]> xangua: excellent, thank you sir!
[04:16] <wtf911> Chain PREROUTING (policy ACCEPT)
[04:16] <wtf911> DNAT       udp  --  anywhere             cpe-77-252-94-160.stny.res.rr.com udp dpt:19004 to:192.168.1.109:19004
[04:16] <wtf911> can anyone tell me the iptables command to make that? for table nat
[04:21] <blackness> does anyone use gdm3setup on 12.10?
[04:25] <b9hh> on my workhorse netbook i have continued to run Natty and yesterday updated to Oneiric with no issues. today i have commenced to update to Precise but i am worried as all the panels have disappeared all i have left onscreen is the Lucid background and my cursor, not even the windows button will bring up pa seach window/dialogue box... but the good news is one it flashed back to the update progress about 5 minutes ago and said 58 more mi
[04:28] <afklinguist> after installing hulu desktop it wont run. terminal shows several gdk errors. not sure what that means
[04:31] <aeon-ltd> afklinguist: pastebin them
[04:31] <b9hh> oh it is still spinning tunes thru Banshee as well :-D
[04:34] <afklinguist> http://pastebin.com/s6RC9jv8
[04:38] <cbathurs> Hello I am having a bit of a ubuntu issue
[04:38] <aeon-ltd> cbathurs: ok, describe it all in one line to the channel
[04:39] <OerHeks> afklinguist, according to this post, you need a newer flashplayer > http://opennomad.com/content/hulu-and-ubuntu-1204-and-flashplayer
[04:40] <afklinguist> i was able to find that article actually but im a linux newbie so its a bit over my head
[04:40] <thunder> hello
[04:41] <Guest36496> anyone here
[04:41] <OerHeks> afklinguist, look @ http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html for the latest 11-6-2012
[04:42] <cbathurs> I cant get dash home to work properly. Anytime I open it, it goes completely bonkers and ends up crashing ubuntu. All I get after i try to open anything in dash home it gives me a yellow screen then a bunch of text and then flipflops between the two.
[04:42] <hhhzzzarn> my whole ubuntu partition has vanished (received grab rescue error, gparted on live cd does not show my ubuntu partition and my /home instead unallocated space) advanced help needed.
[04:43] <cbathurs> any Ideas of the problem aeon?
[04:44] <jValentin> I was about to install virtualmin using the downloaded install script, but the installed shows a list of supported sytems, and it did not included Ubuntu 11.10, which is what I have
[04:45] <jValentin> oddly, it skips that version and says it supports 12.04 LTS
[04:45] <jValentin> is there no chance if using the installer on my server?
[04:45] <hhhzzzarn> my whole ubuntu partition has vanished (received grab rescue error, gparted on live cd does not show my ubuntu partition and my /home instead unallocated space) advanced help needed.
[04:46] <b9hh> i just checked at it is still scrobbling to LastFM so hopefully the install is still progressing even though there is just the luminous screen that was introduced first with the Unity desktop... this is why i upgrade OS only when i bloody have to :-D
[04:46] <nowhereman_> somebody recommends me a kind of autocad for ubuntu 32 bits ??
[04:47] <Yakut> hi
[04:48] <Yakut> I change mouse sensitivity, and it become too slow, so I want to use defaults but I cant do it
[04:48] <Yakut> :D
[04:48] <Yakut> 12.10
[04:48] <OerHeks> afklinguist, did you try updating your system? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:49] <Yakut> help me?
[04:49] <jValentin> has anyone ran the virtualmin install script on Ubuntu 11.10 server?
[04:50] <Yakut> how to use defaults of Mouse settings?
[04:50] <Gerowen> Yakut: Are you unable to turn the sensitivity back up?
[04:50] <blackness> now to find more openbox tweaks..
[04:50] <gogeta> heh
[04:50] <IanWizard-Cloud> So... my .gvfs moved :P  I'm used to moving files about from the cmdline into / out of .gvfs.  I noticed some other changes to the filesystem layout, so, where's nautilus mount (s)ftp stuffs?
[04:51] <IanWizard-Cloud> In 12.10.
[04:51] <hhhzzzarn> yakut, go back to mouse sensitivity and change it (there is no default button) play around.
[04:51] <hhhzzzarn> yakut, go to dash and search for "settings". click on mouse.
[04:52] <Yakut> Gerowen> Yakut: Are you unable to turn the sensitivity back up?" now then I change sensitivity - it cant be slow or speedy
[04:52] <Yakut> it slow forever
[04:52] <Yakut> _)
[04:52] <hhhzzzarn> yakut, same here, the mouse slider does not apply the change.
[04:52] <Gerowen> That's weird, I haven't messed with mine so I guess it hasn't affected me.
[04:53] <Yakut> I change Mouse Speed - it works (upper sensitivity), but Mouse Sensitivity not works
[04:54] <Yakut> I move the slider nothing happens
[04:54] <Yakut> is it a bug?
[04:55] <hhhzzzarn> yakut: http://askubuntu.com/questions/205676/cant-change-mouse-speed-in-12-10
[04:55] <hhhzzzarn> my whole ubuntu partition has vanished (received grab rescue error, gparted on live cd does not show my ubuntu partition and my /home instead unallocated space) advanced help needed.
[04:56] <blackness> hhhzzzarn, sounds like your /home became inactive..
[04:57] <sabot_> ext4 bug?
[04:57] <hhhzzzarn> blackness, I had xubuntu 12.10. I changed the grub file (the option to choose which entry by default from 0 to 4, 4 being windows 7). Run 'sudo update-grub'. Restarted later.
[04:58] <hhhzzzarn> blackness, sabot, then encountered the windows recovery partition which I cancelled, then restarted again.
[04:58] <jValentin> has anyone ran the virtualmin install script on Ubuntu 11.10 server?
[04:59] <jValentin> I'm trying to find out if it's safe or if it's better to try installing it all manually
[04:59] <hhhzzzarn> blackness, sabot, then it went to grub rescue. I run ubuntu 12.10 live cd, gparted to findout the sda number for my ubuntu partition. Both my / ubuntu partition and my /home are missing and instead i have unallocated space
[05:00] <IanWizard-Cloud> Didn't there used to be settings for running actions when you mouse to the corner of the screen?
[05:01] <sabot_> hhhzzzarn: let me guess... your hdd is multi-booting?
[05:01] <hhhzzzarn> sabot, I had windows 7 (3 partitions) and ubuntu (another 3 partitions, / and /home/ and swap)
[05:02] <sabot_> hhhzzzarn: let me guess... so windows 7 kills your graub2?
[05:02] <Tobias1983> does anyone know the code to download the photoshop equivelent for ubuntu?
[05:03] <Ben64> Is there a way to get sensors info on the panel?
[05:03] <aeon-ltd> Tobias1983: have you tried gimp?
[05:03] <Tobias1983> no
[05:03] <hhhzzzarn> sabot, after I restarted my computer after 'sudo update-grub'. The computer automatically went to 'acer recovery manager' parition. But I cancelled it. It might have cause the ubuntu parition along with grub files to get hidden or removed?
[05:03] <Tobias1983> do you know the code to dl it aeon-ltd
[05:03] <Tobias1983> Is it as good as photoshop?
[05:03] <Ben64> Tobias1983: search for it in the software center
[05:04] <aeon-ltd> Tobias1983: sudo apt-get install gimp
[05:04] <Tobias1983> my software center isnt working currently its errorining out
[05:04] <Ben64> what error
[05:04] <aeon-ltd> Tobias1983: it's UI is different, but i'd say yeah it's pretty good.
[05:04] <Tobias1983> E: Package 'gimp' has no installation candidate
[05:05] <Tobias1983> Sweet i been using photoshop for like 6 years will be interesting to use something different.
[05:05] <hhhzzzarn> sabot, either that recover manager removed my ubuntu parition / with /home even thought I cancelled it and restarted the computer. Because i did nothing else to have cause the ubuntu parition and /home paritions (both ext4) to have been removed.
[05:06] <Tobias1983> hey how do i open this into a document? /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:06] <Guest43223> noob
[05:06] <hhhzzzarn> sabot, what do you suggesT?
[05:06] <Tobias1983> isnt it gtsk?
[05:06] <sabot_> hhhzzzarn: kill yourself? just kidding
[05:06] <ryanwyan> Hey, so I was wondering, what do I do with source code? I was told its there to make the program and add any changes to the program you want, how do you install from SC?
[05:06] <Ben64> Tobias1983: there are many text editors. you could probably use "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:06] <hhhzzzarn> tobias1983: sudo gedit /etc/apt or sudo nameoffileeditor /etc/apt/...
[05:07] <Ben64> Tobias1983: it seems you are having a lot of problems with things, you should work on fixing them first
[05:07] <Ben64> sabot_: don't say that kind of stuff here
[05:07] <Tobias1983> thanks i always have issues with fixing gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list is there somehting that i coul read to help me understand this better?
[05:07] <ryanwyan> Hey, so I was wondering, what do I do with source code? I was told its there to make the program and add any changes to the program you want, how do you install from SC?
[05:07] <Guest43223> tem algum brazuca ai?
[05:07] <Tobias1983> I feel bad just # out things i have no idea what they are.
[05:07] <Linda> hi people... question: ubuntu 12.10 using compiz effects allow me to use the opacity, like scrolling mouse while pressing super key or something like that, the windows get transparency... I want to do the same using the Gnome Shell instead Unity. Possible?
[05:07] <Linda> Guest43223, eu sou brasileira :)
[05:08] <ryanwyan> How do you install a program via Source Code?
[05:08] <Ben64> Tobias1983: what do you mean?
[05:08] <hhhzzzarn> ryanwyan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[05:08] <Guest43223> legal
[05:08] <afklinguist> sorry but how do i  direct my message at one person
[05:08] <hhhzzzarn> afklinguist, type the person username
[05:08] <ryanwyan> thanks, hhhzzzarn\
[05:08] <ryanwyan> thanks, hhhzzzarn
[05:08] <Tobias1983> ben64 i mean inorder to fix my update i have to # stuff on my sources.list file
[05:09] <Tobias1983> I want to learn what imd oing on there.
[05:09] <Guest43223> fui
[05:09] <Tobias1983> is there something that will teach me?
[05:09] <hhhzzzarn> afklinguist, type the person username exactly as it is, and it would show as red to the reciever :)
[05:09] <blackness> gksu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:09] <afklinguist> hhhzzzarn thanks
[05:09] <blackness> is one way to edit that file.
[05:09] <Ben64> Tobias1983: what do you mean you have to number stuff? can you pastebin the contents of the sources.list file?
[05:09] <xangua> Tobias1983: what ubuntu version are you using¿
[05:09] <Yakut> googling didnt help me with Mouse Sensitibity bug
[05:09] <Yakut> D:
[05:10] <Tobias1983> ben64 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354814/
[05:10] <hhhzzzarn> tobais1983: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SourcesList
[05:10] <Kartagis> what's a good menu editor?
[05:10] <hhhzzzarn> tobias1983: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[05:10] <blackness> i have never seen a sourcelist like this.
[05:11] <Tobias1983> thanks guys
[05:11] <Tobias1983> whats dup with it blackness?
[05:11] <blackness> dup?
[05:11] <Tobias1983> up*
[05:11] <blackness> ive never seen this: deb (20120823.1)]/ dists/precise/main/binary-i386/, how is apt-get going to resolve (stuff) ?
[05:12] <Ben64> Tobias1983: what does "lsb_release -r" show?
[05:12] <onborad> How to get the last batch buffer before GPU hang
[05:12] <Tobias1983> what is lb_release?
[05:12] <Yakut> my question
[05:12] <Ben64> shows what version ubuntu thinks it is
[05:12] <blackness> type: lsb_release -r and tell us your version :)
[05:12] <Yakut> can I run 32bit Ubuntu apps on 64bit Ubuntu?
[05:12] <Ben64> Yakut: yes
[05:12] <blackness> Yakut, yes
[05:12] <almoxarife> i am guessing that 'synaptic' would be too simple a solution
[05:12] <Tobias1983> Release:	12.04
[05:13] <blackness> hes using precise..but that deb line looks wrong..
[05:13] <Yakut> but I listened that before running 32bit I will install some special libs
[05:13] <Yakut> no?)
[05:13] <Ben64> Tobias1983: ok then you need to replace your sources.list with a non-broken one
[05:13] <hhhzzzarn> blackness, sobat, I am going to go ahead and recover the lost ext4 paritions with testdisk.
[05:13] <almoxarife> Yakut: they will install when needed by the 32bit app, automatic
[05:14] <Yakut> ok
[05:14] <Tobias1983> wow really
[05:14] <Tobias1983> how do i o that?
[05:14] <Tobias1983> how do i do that*
[05:14] <blackness> uhm..moment.
[05:14] <Tobias1983> and how did my sourcelist break in the first place?
[05:15] <hhhzzzarn> tobias1983, someone gives you their source.list :)
[05:15] <Ben64> Tobias1983: dunno, you can use mine, I'm on 12.04 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354821/
[05:15] <blackness> Tobias1983, http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ or http://askubuntu.com/questions/124017/how-do-i-restore-the-default-repositories
[05:15] <onborad> Pipe [0]:
[05:15] <onborad>   CONF: c0000000
[05:15] <onborad>   SRC: 059f0383
[05:15] <onborad>   HTOTAL: 063f059f
[05:15] <onborad>   HBLANK: 063f059f
[05:15] <FloodBot1> onborad: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:15] <onborad>   HSYNC: 05ef05cf
[05:15] <WishArt> Howdy? Sorry was disconnected. Anyone know how to find out application version on Ubuntu Software Center?
[05:15] <blackness> there you go Tobias1983 build your own, or let package-manager do it for you.
[05:15] <Tobias1983> thanks ben64
[05:16] <almoxarife> Tobias1983: simplest way to look at your sources.list is to 'sort' it, then look at the mess
[05:16] <Ben64> easier to just replace it all
[05:16] <blackness> he needs a new one.
[05:16] <blackness> his is thrashed.
[05:16] <hhhzzzarn> wishart, you can use the info command in apt-get http://askubuntu.com/questions/133456/can-i-uninstall-and-reinstall-ubuntu-software-center
[05:17] <Ben64> WishArt: scroll down, the version is there
[05:17] <hhhzzzarn> wishart, not listed in that link but tells you the packagename for the ubuntu software cetner
[05:17] <WishArt> Oh I missed it, sorry & tyvm hhhzzzarn
[05:18] <hhhzzzarn> wishart, I thought you wanted to know the application version for the ubuntu software center itself? or the application available through the software center?
[05:18] <Tobias1983> so is it better if i just copy ben64 sourclist or generate my own?
[05:18] <blackness> how do you enable 'water effect' on ubuntu 12.10?
[05:18] <WishArt> The application :) For example GIMP version that available on software center.
[05:18] <blackness> Tobias1983, i always generate my own..
[05:19] <blackness> then again, if you use his, you use the repos he's enabled aswell.
[05:19] <Tobias1983> i just click all the apps i have on my comp? and then i generated it
[05:19] <Ben64> WishArt: scroll down, the version is there
[05:19] <Tobias1983> I copy what it made into my sourcelist and save?
[05:19] <hhhzzzarn> wishart, oh, go to application like gimp, scrolls down to the information section, it is written there.
[05:19] <blackness> Building your own gives you complete control over that via web-gui etc.
[05:19] <blackness> yes
[05:19] <hhhzzzarn> wishart, just above the comments.
[05:19] <blackness> silverlight doesn't work on ubuntu does it?
[05:19] <Tobias1983> I mean it doesnt look like the sourcelist i have though
[05:19] <Ben64> blackness: not with drm
[05:20] <blackness> drm?
[05:20] <Ben64> yeah, drm
[05:20] <blackness> what is drm?
[05:20] <hhhzzzarn> wishart did you find it?
[05:20] <WishArt> Yup, got it. Thanks for your advice. It's weird, said GIMP 2.8 is available on software center but it's still 2.6
[05:20] <Ben64> ...
[05:20] <jaxdahl> i just installed a bunch of updates and rebooted like it asked me to. logged in and all i can see is wallpaper, how do i start diagnosing the issue? (12.04)
[05:20] <Tobias1983> its segmented into 3 groups which part do i copy into source.list? blackness
[05:20] <blackness> Tobias1983, hang on.
[05:20] <WishArt> Yes I do, hhhzzzarn. Thank to you :)
[05:20] <hhhzzzarn> wishart, I have gimp 2.8.1 listed in my ubuntu software center. I have ubuntu 12.10
[05:21] <Tobias1983> i can copy what it gave me to pastebin if you want
[05:21] <blackness> Ben64, i dont study abbreviations
[05:21] <hhhzzzarn> wishart, run 'sudo apt-get update' command through terminal
[05:21] <WishArt> I'm using ubuntu 12.04
[05:21] <Ben64> it's been in the news and in popular lexicon for years
[05:21] <WishArt> Ok, right awat hhhzzzarn. Tyvm :)
[05:22] <blackness> Tobias1983, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354829/
[05:23] <Tobias1983> blakc is that what i should put in there?
[05:23] <blackness> seems drm is a codec.
[05:23] <blackness> yes Tobias1983
[05:23] <Tobias1983> ok ill copy paste what u put in there and use that thanks
[05:24] <blackness> that is just a basic repo list for the OS..if you want third party repo's you can add them manually.
[05:24] <Tobias1983> I still get a lot of errors while updating stuff.
[05:25] <Tobias1983> I was hoping that would be fixed.
[05:25] <blackness> what errors?
[05:25] <blackness> sudo apt-get update|pastebinit
[05:25] <blackness> paste url.
[05:25] <WishArt> Done but it's still the same version hhhzzzarn.
[05:26] <hhhzzzarn> wishart, hold
[05:26] <WishArt> Let me google, at least i know what version on there.
[05:26] <Tobias1983> blackness http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354832/
[05:26] <WishArt> Ok hhhzzzarn :)
[05:26] <blackness> thats a third party repo :P
[05:27] <blackness> cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d; ls | pastebinit
[05:27] <Tobias1983> it has stuff like this too Err http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main i386 Packages                           404  Not Found
[05:27] <jaxdahl> how do i run a command within unity if i can't see a taskbar or anything? just  wallpaper
[05:27] <aeon-ltd> jaxdahl: ctrl-alt-f1 then do it cli
[05:28] <jaxdahl> aeon-ltd, it doesn't want me to run unity --reset within a tty
[05:28] <blackness> Tobias1983, cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d; ls | pastebinit
[05:29] <hhhzzzarn> wishart, http://askubuntu.com/questions/134035/how-do-i-get-gimp-2-8
[05:29] <blackness> Tobias1983, sudo apt-get install pastebinit incase you dont gave it.
[05:29] <wiiw> how to fix this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354837/
[05:29] <blackness> s/gave/have/g
[05:29] <WishArt> Yippie, tyvm hhhzzzarn
[05:29] <Tobias1983> that is completely empty
[05:29] <hhhzzzarn> wishart, you need to work on your searching skill (yes it is an skill, choosing the write keywords) :)
[05:29] <blackness> wiiw, java's download was incomplete. purge it.
[05:30] <hhhzzzarn> a skill*
[05:30] <blackness> the directory /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ is empty?
[05:31] <Tobias1983> blackness  yes
[05:31] <WishArt> U right hhhzzzarn :D Actually I was googling how to find the version. Because i have reinstall 2x but still get the same version haha
[05:31] <wiiw> blackness: purge error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354841/
[05:31] <blackness> please paste the full output of this: sudo apt-get update | pastebinit, do not cut out any of the text please.
[05:31] <Tobias1983> maybe im not typing it in correctly
[05:31] <hhhzzzarn> wishart, ok.
[05:32] <blackness> wiiw, sudo apt-get -f install
[05:32] <Tobias1983> blackness unforunately i have to go to work r now ) : thanks for all your help so far htough
[05:33] <blackness> welcome.
[05:33] <wiiw> blackness:  -f install error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354842/
[05:33] <Quan-Time> ubuntu 11.10 x64 - disk usage analyser says i have 18gb free, but nautilus is only showing 293mb.  Something keeps eating cache space or something similar.. is there a way to flush / purge temp or cache files ?  Its happened before and a reboot fixed it.  This time it hasnt.. ideas ?
[05:33] <hhhzzzarn> wiiw, might want to try, http://askubuntu.com/questions/149346/how-to-uninstall-java6
[05:33] <almoxarife> wiiw: looks like you are hitting blanks trying to download, look at the responses from the dwnld lines
[05:34] <blackness> his download isn't the right file.
[05:34] <dsilentobsrvr> #
[05:34] <blackness> he can fix this by downloading that file manually and placing it in /var/apt/cache (i believe)
[05:35] <acad> 1
[05:35] <WishArt> It's perfect now hhhzzzarn :) U're rock!
[05:35] <blackness> oops: /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:35] <Tohuw> It appears deja-dup does not accept regex via adding entries to org.gnome.DejaDup.exclude-list. Is there a solution to allow for regex matching of paths here?
[05:35] <hhhzzzarn> I am not a advanced helper, just good searcher :)
[05:36] <hhhzzzarn> an*
[05:36] <blackness> download: jdk-7u3-linux-i586.tar.gz to /var/cache/apt/archives/, run: sudo apt-get -f remove (or install)
[05:36] <almoxarife> hhhzzzarn: google is your friend
[05:37] <hhhzzzarn> wishart, if you every deleted a file/folder/partition by mistake, use "testdisk". Most usefull program when the time comes.
[05:37] <WishArt> Wow, that's new trick too for me hhhzzzzarn. Ty
[05:38] <wiiw> blackness: without download the file manually , have any other ways ?
[05:38] <blackness> uhm. did that url hhhzzzarn posted work?
[05:39] <wiiw> blackness: the url is not exist
[05:39] <blackness> wiiw, http://askubuntu.com/questions/149346/how-to-uninstall-java6 works fine.
[05:39] <wiiw> blackness: not work : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354844/
[05:40] <blackness> unless your ISP is blocking it, or they (askubuntu.com) is blocking you.
[05:40] <WishArt> Agree almoxarife, always do too. Prolly today google was making a coffee & left me alone :D
[05:40] <blackness> hang on wiiw
[05:41] <blackness> wiiw, did you install this VIA the webupd8 ppas?
[05:41] <almoxarife> blackness: wiiw has not installed java, look at his paste, what needs to happen now is remove remnants of the failed install process by hand
[05:41] <hhhzzzarn> wiiw, when you type "java -version" what does it say?
[05:41] <blackness> wiiw, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11821814 follow this one.
[05:42] <blackness> almoxarife, what i just pasted will do just that.
[05:42] <blackness> looks as if this happens to alot of people :P
[05:42] <WishArt> I was googling how to resize font on GIMP as well but none answer fit until some1 on #GIMP told me my GIMP was too old almoxarife haha
[05:43] <blackness> cd /var/lib/dpkg/info/; ls | grep oracle-java7
[05:43] <blackness> remove the files found..
[05:44] <almoxarife> blackness: the strip portion looks right, been there done that a few times
[05:44] <blackness> find /var/lib/dpkg/info -name "oracle-java7*" -exec rm -f {} \;, if you want a one line.
[05:44] <blackness> run as su(do)
[05:44] <blackness> brb
[05:44] <wiiw> blackness: it works , thank you
[05:45] <almoxarife> wiiw: dont try to install that same file/package again, something is broke with it
[05:45] <wiiw> almoxarife: ok
[05:46] <wiiw> I'll install default-jre instead
[05:46] <WishArt> Mayb irc is our best friend for old issues when google's busy replacing the data with latest update almoxarife? :D
[05:46] <wiiw> Instead of .
[05:47] <WishArt> Jokes :P
[05:47] <pigeonor_> if anyone can help me with this error, i would love you forever: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354847/
[05:48] <acad> где я?
[05:48] <almoxarife> pigeonor_ as the same issue as wiiw did, with another package
[05:49] <blackness> welcome wiiw
[05:49] <pigeonor_> sorry, i just joined, can you paste the instructions?
[05:49] <blackness> almoxarife, java requires you to register for their product.
[05:50] <almoxarife> blackness: pigeonor_ has the same like problem as wiiw
[05:50] <hhhzzzarn> pigeonor, is apt-get -f install same as apt-get install -f?
[05:50] <blackness> hhhzzzarn, that command is the same..both ways.
[05:50] <pigeonor_> hhhzzzarn, i try the traditional sudo apt-get install and it says to -f
[05:50] <blackness> pigeonor_, what package is stuck?
[05:50] <pigeonor_> php-pear
[05:51] <almoxarife> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354847/ <-- blackness
[05:51] <blackness> do this: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info|grep php-pear | pastebinit
[05:51] <blackness> then paste url please.
[05:51] <OerHeks> pigeonor_, are you running Lenny ? > php-pear_5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny16_all.deb
[05:51] <pigeonor_> @OerHeks yes
[05:52] <blackness> wait, isnt lenny debian?
[05:52] <pigeonor_> yes it is
[05:52] <almoxarife> yes :)
[05:52] <pigeonor_> but better help here
[05:52] <pigeonor_> haha
[05:52] <blackness> pigeonor_: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info|grep php-pear | pastebinit
[05:53] <pigeonor_> @blackness, i tried that, nothing happens
[05:53] <blackness> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[05:53] <blackness> do that then..you dont have pastebinit installed.
[05:53] <almoxarife> pigeonor_: do you have 'pastebinit' installed?
[05:53] <almoxarife> :)
[05:54] <blackness> next time im doing: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; ls /var/lib/dpkg/info|grep package|pastebinit :P
[05:54] <bazhang> debian in #debian pigeonor_
[05:54] <pigeonor_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354857/
[05:54] <pigeonor_> now i get that
[05:54] <blackness> oh, hes stuck..moment.
[05:54] <blackness> pigeonor_: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info|grep php-pear, paste the results by hand please.
[05:55] <bazhang> blackness, feel free to support him in #debian
[05:55] <blackness> i cant help him here since ubuntu is based off debian?
[05:55] <bazhang> correct
[05:55] <blackness> wow.
[05:55] <blackness> pigeonor_, ill goto #debian, go there and ill continue
[05:55] <pigeonor_> im in debian now if that is how it has to be
[05:56] <almoxarife> blackness: more importantly, ask yourself why he cant get help on his own channel
[05:56] <bazhang> this is ubuntu support only.
[05:56] <blackness> if they dont offer it, then what is he supposed to do?
[05:56] <almoxarife> blackness: sucks to use debian?
[05:56] <bazhang>  /join #debian pigeonor_ blackness
[05:56] <blackness> if i were him, i'd goto ubuntu myself if debian users didnt offer help, since ubunut is like debian.
[05:56] <blackness> bazhang, we did.
[05:57] <micadeyeye> Hi, I am doing a "sudo cp...." but the permissions in the source dir are not the same as the destination's
[05:57] <micadeyeye>  The source dir is a git directory.
[05:57] <micadeyeye>  Could that be the reason?
[05:57] <bazhang> so stop with the offtopic chat here blackness
[05:57] <pigeonor_> dreamhost only uses debaian
[05:57] <pigeonor_> err debian
[05:58] <almoxarife> bazhang: you forgot 'please'
[05:58] <bazhang> almoxarife, lets move on
[05:58] <n3rV3> micadeyeye, use "sudo cp -p .. "
[05:58] <almoxarife> lets
[05:59] <micadeyeye> n3rV3, I have always used sudo cp -Rf. Should I replace now use "sudo cp -Rp"?
[06:00] <micadeyeye> sorry
[06:00] <blackness> he dont say please almoxarife
[06:00] <almoxarife> micadeyeye: take it to #bash please
[06:00] <micadeyeye> n3rV3, **Should I now use "sudo cp -Rp"?
[06:00] <n3rV3> :)
[06:01] <micadeyeye> I thought R is for recursive
[06:01] <blackness> it is recursive.
[06:01] <blackness> is he trying to keep file permissions?
[06:01] <micadeyeye> Yes, I want to keep file permissions.
[06:01] <almoxarife> blackness micadeyeye, take it to #bash please
[06:02] <micadeyeye> almoxarife, sure
[06:02] <n3rV3> almoxarife, yes we'll discuss it on #bash thank you
[06:02] <blackness> oh forget it. ill help when someone directly comments 'ubuntu' in their comment.
[06:03] <n3rV3> blackness, i feel that times have changed, what happened to the all-inclusive world of open source?
[06:03] <RiXtEr> join #samba ;)
[06:04] <blackness> i didnt know cp was bash..my understanding its a command built with linux itself..
[06:04] <Ben64> there are 1,584 people in here, the support here is for ubuntu only, because anything more could get crazy in here
[06:04] <RiXtEr> blackness, cp can be based off of bash, sh, or busybox.
[06:04] <RiXtEr> or any other shell.
[06:05] <blackness> so based off linux/unix. got'cha
[06:06] <blackness> i miss the old days..help wasn't restricted. next time ill pull them into a PM :)
[06:06] <bazhang> !ot | blackness
[06:07] <Seven_Six_Two> I got fired from Comcast call center because I refused to stop going outside of my support boundaries. Ubuntu.
[06:07] <Seven_Six_Two> not recently...
[06:07] <RiXtEr> you didn't finish that with Ubuntu.
[06:07]  * RiXtEr goes to bed.
[06:08] <hhhzzzarn> ...
[06:09] <hhhzzzarn> seven_six_two: Supporting/helping others is addictive.
[06:10] <Seven_Six_Two> it totally is. That's why I'm studying to be a teacher
[06:10] <Seven_Six_Two> well, next year will be teacher's college
[06:10] <Seven_Six_Two> ubuntu
[06:10] <bazhang> Seven_Six_Two, thats enough
[06:11] <Jodorowsky> hi. i was just given access to a server in my school. it serves web files in "server.com/~studentnumber". where studentnumber is the name of my home directory. i want to change that after the ~ to a more pleasing name of my choosing. help
[06:11] <Seven_Six_Two> Jodorowsky, that will be your home directory, and you might not have permissions to move it. Are you admin on the server?
[06:12] <Jodorowsky> Seven_Six_Two, i'm not
[06:12] <Jodorowsky> :\
[06:12] <RiXtEr> Jodorowsky, that is more of a setting in your webserver software, apache handles it one way and lighttpd handles it differently, which one are you running?
[06:12] <Seven_Six_Two> Jodorowsky, register for a domain name and point a cname record at it
[06:13] <Strategos> Heya hiya.
[06:14] <Seven_Six_Two> Jodorowsky, I believe you can sign up for a free one at dot.tk
[06:15] <Jodorowsky> RiXtEr, tried ps -e | greping for both and had no luck
[06:15] <Jodorowsky> Seven_Six_Two, thx
[06:15] <RiXtEr> Jodorowsky, cname may be what you are after then, if you don't have root, not much you can change anyway
[06:15] <RiXtEr> Jodorowsky, netstat -anp | grep 80 may be helpful though.
[06:16]  * RiXtEr really goes to bed this time.
[06:16] <Seven_Six_Two> Jodorowsky, if you're tight with the admin, ask for an alias
[06:17] <OerHeks> Seven_Six_Two, isn't it possible to set an alias like this example ? > http://www.patrickjwaters.com/blog/2011-09-03/aliasing-remote-servers-and-setting-passwordless-authorization-speedy-workflow-ubunt
[06:18] <Jodorowsky> Seven_Six_Two, the home directory is actually a bunch of links. so he just names the link whatever he wants and real home dir is someplace else
[06:18] <Seven_Six_Two> oh, hosts can work, but I don't think it will work without a name-entry if it's name based hosting
[06:18] <Seven_Six_Two> and it will only work on that one computer
[06:19] <Seven_Six_Two> Jodorowsky, I don't think you would have access to that link.
[06:19] <Seven_Six_Two> Jodorowsky, that's how I serve. my web root is in my user's home, but I can't rename the link that the server uses without admin
[06:21] <Seven_Six_Two> OerHeks, if you're aliasing that way, the server has to know to respond to that domain, or be set up with a default config that will respond for any domain (*:80)
[06:31] <brandinhess> Does anyone know if you can upgrade to LibreOffice 3.6.3 through the terminal?
[06:32] <bazhang> brandinhess, with a PPA? compiling? sure.
[06:32] <brandinhess> Ok....where do I go to obtain that information?
[06:32] <Seven_Six_Two> do you have a deb file?
[06:32] <bazhang> brandinhess, search launchpad for the ppa
[06:33] <brandinhess> Ok
[06:34] <bazhang> !addppa | brandinhess
[06:35] <brandinhess> That I am very well aware of. I added a Libreoffice PPA, and it still won't upgrade me to the latest version.
[06:36] <Seven_Six_Two> I only see that version on the libreoffice site
[06:36] <almoxarife> brandinhess: 32 or 64bit?
[06:36] <brandinhess> 64
[06:37] <almoxarife> http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/3.6.3/deb/x86_64/LibO_3.6.3_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz <-- brandinhess, got torrent capability?
[06:37] <brandinhess> Yes
[06:38] <almoxarife> brandinhess: nevermind, thats the direct d/l , wget it and dpkg it
[06:38] <almoxarife> http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=deb-x86_64&lang=en-US&version=3.6.3 <-- as per this brandinhess
[06:38] <blackness> lol...i got muted on debian cause of my method...
[06:38] <blackness> oops wrong channel.
[06:39] <OerHeks> uninstall the old libreoffice first.
[06:39] <brandinhess> I already downloaded the tarball and it still tells me that I have an older version installed.
[06:40] <almoxarife> brandinhess: do you?
[06:41] <brandinhess> I don't see another one installed. Is there a way to find out?
[06:41] <Seven_Six_Two> If you add two small negative two's complement bytes, would you get unsigned overflow?
[06:41] <almoxarife> brandinhess: assume you do and 'sudo apt-get remove libreoffice'
[06:42] <brandinhess> Ok...stand by.
[06:42] <blackness> almoxarife, they need a lil more then that ;)
[06:42] <almoxarife> they?
[06:42] <brandinhess> It didn't work
[06:42] <blackness> yeah..libreoffice is more then that.
[06:43] <blackness> brandinhess, are you removing OpenOffice? or updating it?
[06:43] <almoxarife> blackness: 'libreoffice'
[06:43] <blackness> isnt that part of openoffice?
[06:43] <brandinhess> I am trying to update my Libreoffice to 3.6.3, and it won't let me.
[06:43] <almoxarife> no
[06:43] <blackness> moment please.
[06:43] <Seven_Six_Two> blackness, not any more
[06:43] <OerHeks> blackness, "libreoffice" is a metapackage
[06:43] <almoxarife> OerHeks: :)
[06:44] <blackness> what version is brandinhess using?
[06:44] <blackness> ubuntu version*
[06:44] <almoxarife> brandinhess: so it is not installed via apt/dpkg/synaptic
[06:44] <brandinhess> no
[06:45] <almoxarife> brandinhess: wanna share how you may have installed previously?
[06:45] <brandinhess> Simple....via the terminal.
[06:46] <OerHeks> brandinhess, try " apt-cache search libreoffice "
[06:46] <almoxarife> simple like what? an installer script from ????? brandinhess
[06:47] <brandinhess> almoxarife: Simple....meaning add PPA, and run sudo apt-get install libreoffice. Can't do that now without getting an older version.
[06:47] <Seven_Six_Two> sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep office
[06:48] <blackness> brandinhess, are we using the libreoffice ppas?
[06:48] <brandinhess> Yes
[06:48] <OerHeks> ah, you installed LibreOffice, added a ppa, and now you cannot see the installed one?
[06:48] <brandinhess> and they don't seem to work like they used to.
[06:48] <blackness> hehe.. brandinhess have you read this: http://www.iloveubuntu.net/libreoffice-36-landed-its-official-ppa-ubuntu-1204
[06:49] <blackness> i cant get the ppa to add
[06:51] <brandinhess> I have already gone through all of the hassle of adding the most current PPA, and it would prompt me to install version 3.6.0
[06:53] <blackness> holy crap, i had libreoffice installed all along :x
[06:53] <Seven_Six_Two> brandinhess, did you download the 170mb installer?
[06:53] <brandinhess> Yes
[06:53] <blackness> what version do you want of libreoffice?
[06:53] <Seven_Six_Two> brandinhess, what was the error when you tried to install it?
[06:54] <brandinhess> 3.6.3....already downloaded and installed. It shows that I am running 3.6.2. Tried to update it, and then it prompts me to reinstall, only to see that it is 3.6.0.
[06:54] <Seven_Six_Two> remove all ppa's/
[06:54] <blackness> did it install over the older files?
[06:54] <brandinhess> Yes
[06:55] <blackness> im going to build and install it myself..to see if i can mimic your errors.
[06:55] <Seven_Six_Two> brandinhess, what does   which libreoffice    return?
[06:55] <blackness> use locate..
[06:55] <Seven_Six_Two> brandinhess, did you use sudo when you installed? did you install to /usr/local/bin or to /opt
[06:56] <blackness> Seven_Six_Two, check this out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/132837/how-do-i-install-the-latest-stable-version-of-libreoffice/182602#182602
[06:56] <brandinhess> Seven_Six_Two: When I check the version of Libreoffice, it currently shows 3.6.2. It asks me to update to 3.6.3 by downloading the 170MB tarball from LibreOffice web site. I downloaded it, extracted it, installed it. I check the version and it still shows me 3.6.2.
[06:56] <blackness> that guide even warrents problems if you dont remove the older version before installing the newer
[06:57] <blackness> how did you install it?
[06:57] <brandinhess> Via terminal
[06:57] <blackness> using what commands?
[06:57] <brandinhess> Hold on...
[06:57] <blackness> and what ubuntu version are you on?
[06:58] <juniour> is there any software like nokias pc suit for ubuntu 12.04
[06:59] <brandinhess> blackness: sudo dpkg -i *.deb, cd desktop-integration, and sudo dpkg -i *.deb. I am running two distros: Ubuntu 12.10 and Linux Mint 13 Cinnamon. Both having the same problem.
[06:59] <blackness> i dont have .deb files for my install..
[06:59] <blackness> i have a crapload of .rpms
[06:59] <Seven_Six_Two> brandinhess, can you try to run with explicit paths. like /usr/local/bin/libreoffice
[07:00] <Seven_Six_Two> brandinhess, or /opt/bin/libreoffice
[07:00] <brandinhess> Of course
[07:00] <OerHeks> juniour, maybe this page is any help >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/Nokia
[07:00] <Seven_Six_Two> maybe you'll find it's in two locations
[07:00] <brandinhess> Already looked, and it isn't.
[07:01] <blackness> http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/3.6.3/deb/x86_64/LibO_3.6.3_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz is this what you downloaded brandinhess ?
[07:01] <Seven_Six_Two> you didn't uninstall your previous version, right?
[07:02] <brandinhess> I uninstalled it more times than I can count at the moment....still no positive results.
[07:02] <brandinhess> And reinstalled it too.
[07:02] <blackness> does it come back everytime you remove it?
[07:02] <brandinhess> nope
[07:02] <blackness> did you purge?
[07:02] <Seven_Six_Two> that's good. that would be spooky
[07:03] <brandinhess> BTW, that is where I downloaded my 3.6.3 from....that is the exact link I used.
[07:03] <blackness> ok..im downloading that now
[07:03] <blackness> im going to install it over my current version of 3.5.0 i think is what i got
[07:03] <sgo11> when I use chkconfig, I saw many warning messages. if chkconfig is deprecated, how can I make service on or off at boot time? update-rc.d? update-rc.d syntax is just too hard to be understood. thanks.
[07:04] <Seven_Six_Two> so let me get this straight. you uninstalled the repo version, and it successfully removed. then you downloaded 3.6.3 and when you install it, it claims to be 3.2.0?
[07:04] <blackness> installing.
[07:04] <west> whats the best flash player right now.
[07:04] <blackness> west: whats in flash-installer :P
[07:04] <n3rV3> sgo11, "sudo update-rc.d -f apache2 defaults" will add apache2 to startup in levels 235
[07:04] <brandinhess> No, it claims to be 3.6.2, and it gives me the option to update by downloading the file that is referred above, and it still returns the result of being version 3.6.2.
[07:05] <blackness> let me install mine..and lets see if mine does it
[07:05] <brandinhess> ok
[07:05] <n3rV3> to remove apache2 use "sudo update-rc.d -f apache2 remove"
[07:05] <sgo11> n3rV3, thanks for replying. what is run level 3 and 5? I think I am currently using 2. and how to turn off a service? thanks.
[07:05] <blackness> how are you loading libreoffice brandinhess ?
[07:06] <sgo11> n3rV3, just read your reply about remove. thanks.
[07:06] <brandinhess> Both through the GUI and terminal.
[07:06] <n3rV3> sgo11, it wont stop the service, the service will be removed from startup
[07:06] <blackness> brandinhess, i installed libreoffice3.6.2.2 and i downloaded that file.
[07:06] <blackness> the one i posted above..
[07:07] <blackness> black@blackness:~/Downloads/LibO_3.6.3.2_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US/DEBS$ libreoffice --version
[07:07] <blackness> LibreOffice 3.6
[07:07] <west> Blackness, what do you mean? how do i check?
[07:07] <n3rV3> to stop the service on a running server use: "service apache2 stop" or "/etc/init.d/apache2 stop"
[07:07] <blackness> west: are you having problems with flash?
[07:07] <n3rV3> add sudo before above commands
[07:07] <brandinhess> blackness: Yes, but I downloaded the tarball for 3.6.3 and it shows that I have 3.6.2 installed.
[07:07] <blackness> i did too.
[07:07] <sgo11> n3rV3, thanks. I understood that part. what is runlevel 3 and 5? I used to using opensuse. that is different from ubuntu. so I am confused. thanks.
[07:07] <blackness> look at my directory from my post
[07:07] <blackness> LibO_3.6.3.2_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US
[07:08] <bulletrulz> OpenSorce, its opensource
[07:08] <derek1> does anyone have bumblebee working in 12.10 ?
[07:08] <blackness> and mine reports 3.6.2-2
[07:08] <OpenSorce> bulletrulz, I've had this nick since '97. I doubt it's a typo...
[07:08]  * brandinhess needs a case of beer
[07:09] <west> blackness, i didn't install adobe flash player and gnash seems to not work on firefox in youtube.com
[07:09] <bulletrulz> 1997 or 1897 OpenSorce?
[07:09] <OpenSorce> bulletrulz, it's rules not rulz
[07:09] <n3rV3> !runlevel
[07:09] <blackness> brandinhess, you cant fix what they released..they labeled the 3.6.2 as 3.6.3..
[07:09] <bulletrulz> OpenSorce, BEEN BULLETRULZ since 1503
[07:09] <OpenSorce> bulletrulz, we're off-topic let's knock it off now
[07:10] <bulletrulz> mm
[07:10] <bulletrulz> kk
[07:10] <brandinhess> blackness: OK....let's forget about that for a moment. Why doesn't the software center show that 3.6.3 is available?
[07:10] <blackness> because its not..in tarball or a repo.
[07:11] <brandinhess> Is it supposed to be?
[07:11] <blackness> 3.6.2 lives inside the packages libreoffice released as 3.6.3 as far as i can tell.
[07:11] <sgo11> n3rV3, thanks. but I am still confused. what is the different between runlevel 2, 3, 5? I think I am currently using 2, because that is the result of executing command $ runlevel.
[07:11] <brandinhess> What kind of screwed up crap is this supposed to be?
[07:11] <blackness> a mistake, which people make.
[07:12] <brandinhess> Well, I sure hope that they see their typo, or whatever one wants to call it.
[07:12] <blackness> i have 3.5.0 and 3.6.2 installed at the same time by the way...and i tried the update thing from the program..and i found the link i just gave you 10mins ago..endless loop..wait for a proper to come out, i assume.
[07:13] <brandinhess> What link?
[07:13] <n3rV3> sgo11, that is a Linux/Ubuntu concept and you'll have to read about it. I can help you with your support queries here
[07:13] <blackness> http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/3.6.3/deb/x86_64/LibO_3.6.3_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
[07:14] <blackness> west, sudo apt-get install flash-installer i believe.
[07:14] <west> blaskness: thanks
[07:14] <Supreme_Niggler> well, hello everybody
[07:14] <blackness> welcome.
[07:15] <overdub> how can I find out whether i'm running 64 bit or 32 bit from command line?
[07:16] <blackness> uname -a
[07:16] <almoxarife> Supreme_Niggler: rude nick in some parts
[07:16] <blackness> look for _64
[07:16] <sgo11> n3rV3, I understood the linux concept. at least, I understood the opensuse concept. runlevel 5 is graphical. runlevel 3 is text mode with network. if I remember correctly, runlevel 2 is text mode without network. etc... but for ubuntu, it's totally different from opensuse. that's why I am confused. whatever. I can google for it. thanks a lot for your help.
[07:17] <overdub> blackness, tried that, doesn't show that info, least not here on this machine
[07:17] <Random832> almoxarife: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/niggle -- Supreme_Niggler: But you know damn well why you chose the nick :P
[07:17] <blackness> post your: uname -a
[07:17] <Supreme_Niggler> :)
[07:17] <n3rV3> basically on ubuntu runlevels 3 and 5 are same as runlevel 2. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpstartHowto will explain more about it.
[07:17] <n3rV3> yw
[07:18] <overdub> #29-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 19 10:27:31 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:18] <blackness> thats not all of uname -a...
[07:18] <overdub> and machine name and kernel version
[07:18] <overdub> no info about 64 bit or 32 bit
[07:18] <blackness> im 64x: Linux blackness 3.5.0-18-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 19 10:26:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:19] <almoxarife> Random832: the nick is offensive, he knows it, i know it, i thought humanity was better than that
[07:20] <relgar> overdub, i686 implies 32 bit
[07:20] <sgo11> n3rV3, thanks a lot. I will read that link.
[07:20] <Supreme_Niggler> in some parts... humanity is not
[07:20] <overdub> relgar, thanks, I'll go with that
[07:20] <blackness> dmesg|grep CPU0 try this overdub ..look for the line with CPU0: and see if your CPU shows up as 64x
[07:21] <relgar> overdub, fyi "i386" or "i586" are also possible; easier to check for x86_64 existence
[07:21] <overdub> blackness, CPU0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2620M CPU @ 2.70GHz stepping 07
[07:22] <blackness> his processer is 64x, i bet he used a 32bit iso.
[07:22] <overdub> blackness, lots of output from that but nothing to indicate 64 or 32
[07:22] <zamboni> do these guidelines
[07:22] <zamboni> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[07:22] <zamboni> apply to ubuntu-offtopic too ?
[07:23] <Ben64> "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i flags | head -n1" will show if a cpu supports 64 bit
[07:23] <almoxarife> zamboni: you tell us, did you read them?
[07:23] <zamboni> ya
[07:23] <Random832> zamboni: why do you ask?
[07:23] <zamboni> cause
[07:23] <zamboni> in off-topic channel there's 2 peeps debating it
[07:23] <zamboni> i want to settle it
[07:23] <almoxarife> how does one get an OPS attention?
[07:24] <blackness> with !op
[07:24] <zamboni> once...and for all
[07:24] <blackness> i think.
[07:24] <heiko> how do I make chromium use an external download manager?
[07:24] <blackness> Ben64, what would you look for on the output of: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i flags | head -n1
[07:24] <Supreme_Niggler> by making a henious nick
[07:24] <somsip> blackness: that's really for emergencies. There is a ubuntu-opps channel I think
[07:24] <almoxarife> i want Supreme_Niggler gone! offensive nick, i live in the modern world where that is not acceptable
[07:24] <Ben64> Yeah, I think !op and !ops works, but you shouldn't use it willy nilly
[07:24] <overdub> Ben64, the output included this: dtes64
[07:24] <Ben64> blackness, overdub: I would look for lahf_lm
[07:24] <zamboni> umm ignore me
[07:24] <zamboni> thanks guys
[07:25] <blackness> ok, i got that..but i know imm using 64x :P
[07:25] <overdub> Ben64, yes, that's there too
[07:26] <blackness> overdub, i think you installed a 32bit version, is this a fresh install?
[07:26] <overdub> so then, is it still possible/likely that I'm running a 32 bit install?
[07:26] <Ben64> your uname is a 32 bit one, so yes
[07:26] <overdub> blackness, yeah, couple weeks old
[07:26] <almoxarife> overdub: i found out my lappy was 64bit by accident, loaded ubuntu 64bit without paying attention, then i noticed it, so you may have a 64bit
[07:26] <blackness> save important stuff, and install a 64x iso..
[07:26] <Supreme_Niggler> ok, I'll change the freakin nick.... to "modern" standards......
[07:26] <almoxarife> Supreme_Niggler: thnks
[07:26] <A[D]minS> Guys, can i ask here about MAAS ?
[07:26] <Supreme_Niggler> ...
[07:26] <A[D]minS> or it must be at #ubuntu-server ?
[07:27] <blackness> maas?
[07:27] <overdub> blackness, lots of work, had it all running so sweetly too -- might have to reinstall
[07:27] <almoxarife> A[D]minS: maas? no, i used to pull data out of that mess
[07:27] <A[D]minS> almoxarife huh!
[07:27] <A[D]minS> !MAAS
[07:27] <blackness> i dont know if its possible, if you can re-install without formatting..
[07:27] <Ben64> overdub: if you have a home partition, or save your home directory, it makes it pretty easy
[07:27] <A[D]minS> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/MAAS/
[07:28] <blackness> tar /home or rsync it somewhere..
[07:28] <almoxarife> maas, wrong maas
[07:28] <A[D]minS> almoxarife Shall i consider it as joke?
[07:28] <Ben64> overdub: you can also keep a copy of all the packages you have and put em back
[07:28] <overdub> Ben64, I'll just try both drivers for this scanner and if something breaks I'll reinstall
[07:28] <overdub> Ben64, that sounds handy -- how to do that?
[07:28] <blackness> i cant help with MAAS, looks tricky
[07:29] <failed_abortion> nick changed.... this better?
[07:29] <A[D]minS> blackness its okay :) Thanks for trying
[07:29] <Ben64> overdub: http://savvyadmin.com/backup-and-restore-package-lists-in-ubuntu/
[07:30] <almoxarife> A[D]minS: i thought it was a db used for industry, same name, wrong on my end
[07:30] <A[D]minS> almoxarife , its okay.
[07:30] <blackness> holy crap thats helpful..
[07:30] <blackness> thank god..
[07:31] <west> sudo apt-get install gnash mozilla-plugin-gnash is not working on my firefox ubuntustudio 12.10.
[07:33] <almoxarife> does gnash actually work on websites?
[07:33] <west> whats the best way to uninstall gnash so that when i install lightspark they won't interfere?
[07:33] <west> so far not on youtube  ( 12.10 studio)
[07:33] <almoxarife> west: stop fighting it, install chromium and forget 'flash'
[07:34] <west> that will work. i wish you said that earlier.
[07:35] <joclek> anyone know how to turn off hybrid GPU stuff?
[07:36] <almoxarife> joclek: what does that mean?
[07:36] <M13> how do I make a script run on login vai Ubuntu server?
[07:37] <joclek> I have a MacBook Pro 6,2, which has 2 GPUs, and Intel and a NVidia...
[07:37] <joclek> Want to turn off the intel GPU completely
[07:38] <varikonniemi> joclek, you know about bumblebee?
[07:38] <almoxarife> joclek: looked in the bios setup?
[07:38] <joclek> don't care about battery and I think it might be causing crashes
[07:38] <varikonniemi> oh yeah, bios should be the proper way to disable it. Juyst thought the bumblebee options might also allow setting it to never use
[07:39] <M13> how do I make a script run on login vai Ubuntu server?
[07:39] <M13> ???
[07:39] <joclek> do MacBooks have a bios?
[07:39] <varikonniemi> UEFI i think
[07:39] <joclek> but how do I set stuff there?
[07:39] <almoxarife> joclek: its your makina, you tell us
[07:40] <varikonniemi> or similar
[07:40] <green_16> anyone please help...i can't use Winff in ubuntu 12.10, or give a good media converter...
[07:41] <almoxarife> green_16: cant?
[07:41] <WishArt> Umm.. how do we unlock folder on GUI? Kinda sudo on terminal?
[07:41] <varikonniemi> WishArt, you must launch the folder as sudo
[07:41] <green_16> ya i can't
[07:41] <varikonniemi> in terminal "gksudo nautilus"
[07:42] <almoxarife> WishArt: gksu nautilus--no-desktop
[07:42] <WishArt> Ah, okay let me try. Tyvm varikonniemi :)
[07:42] <Kartagis> green_16: define "can't use"
[07:42] <WishArt>  And to almoxarife to
[07:44] <almoxarife> WishArt: btw, be careful with super nautilus, you can crap a file system
[07:44] <almoxarife> been there done that, decided to delete what did not seem useful
[07:45] <varikonniemi> well, sometimes you have to learn by making mistakes :D
[07:46] <varikonniemi> been there, done that. When i first moved to linux i insisted to be admin as i was used to under windowsa
[07:46] <almoxarife> varikonniemi: yeap, and i have made some really good ones, thank you :) , 'var'? i dont need no stinking 'var' :)
[07:46] <varikonniemi> so i hacked my ubuntu to allow root login... you can guess i was reinstalling quite frequently
[07:47] <almoxarife> varikonniemi: i dabbled with backtrack5 on vbox, the kde version even, it runs 100% root
[07:47] <nrw> Hello. Is there a way to set the download location when doing a net install? i have a system booting from the linux kernel and the matching initrd.tz file. The first few steps of the installer work normally, but after i select a mirror, it never downloads anything.
[07:47] <nrw> The drive it's booting from is 32MB. I have bigger drives connected by usb (which i can't boot from). ideas?
[07:48] <varikonniemi> wow
[07:48] <nrw> clarification: my bios doesn't allow booting from usb
[07:48] <varikonniemi> you managed to boot from usb the mini.iso ?
[07:48] <varikonniemi> so you boot from a 32mb hdd? :D ok
[07:49] <nrw> varikonniemi: it's a flash drive. not usb, but yes.
[07:49] <nrw> i'm booting from it.
[07:49] <nrw> is this doomed to fail?
[07:49] <Username_Banned> .....what Operating system is booting with 32 mb?
[07:49] <Username_Banned> what Operating system fit?
[07:49] <sgo11> n3rV3, sorry to interrupt you. one more question. after executing "sudo update-rc.d -f apache2 remove". the output of "service --status-all" still shows [ + ]  apache2. why? why is that a plus sign? does it mean apache2 will be booted at startup? thanks.
[07:50] <fego> Username_Banned: you mean 31 megs of hdd or ram?
[07:50] <joclek> Username_Banned: DOS?
[07:50] <fego> 32*
[07:50] <Username_Banned> hdd
[07:50] <fego> Username_Banned: may be tiny core linux
[07:50] <nrw> 32 mb hdd.
[07:51] <nrw> i was using tiny core linux, but now i'm trying to get ubuntu running on this machine (processor is an i686 with 376 mb RAM).
[07:51] <llutz> sgo11: it means, it is started (currently running).
[07:51] <forzabiz> ciao
[07:51] <forzabiz> !list
[07:52] <nrw> the only things on the 32 mb hdd are the linux kernel and it's initrd.tz file. i was following these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet
[07:52] <sgo11> llutz, but that is wrong. I have stopped apache2 by running sudo service apache2 stop. ps -ef does not have apache2 running either. thanks.
[07:53] <almoxarife> people are already installing ubuntu on android tablets, using vnc to get to it local
[07:53] <nrw> Username_Banned: and i'm using the oneiric kernel and initrd
[07:54] <nrw> Username_Banned: strike that. it's lucid.
[07:54] <Username_Banned> is the download attempting to go to the 32mb hdd, and failing when the process cannot operate within the space given?
[07:54] <sgo11> btw, one more question, what is the command to show all the autostart service? thanks.
[07:55] <OpenSorce> It was my impression that when downloading via netboot that the basic system downloads to RAM then during partitioning and formating it gets installed on one drive or another...
[07:55] <nrw> Username_Banned: after i select a mirror, i get a blue screen with nothing on it. i can see (in my router's activity monitor) that it's not doing and network traffic.
[07:55] <OpenSorce> *after not during
[07:56] <nrw> Username_Banned: i'm just guessing that there's a disk space problem.
[07:56] <OpenSorce> nrw, my last netboot install did the same for about 30 minutes before it showed any activity
[07:56] <nrw> OpenSorce: wow
[07:57] <OpenSorce> nrw, keep in mind it was on a very slow machine
[07:57] <OpenSorce> nrw, but yeah... no status bar or anything just blue for 30 minutes then it started showing me things.
[07:58] <Username_Banned> Honestly, the blue screen you described has me confused, but it does seem logical that it could be a space problem or an overload of some sort
[07:58] <nrw> there's only 2MB free on the internal drive. i'm assuming it's gonna download more than 2MB of stuff. i can't imagine the installer hunts for free disk space on other drives. does it?
[07:58] <OpenSorce> Username_Banned, like I just told him, I've seen the same thing on netboot/PXE installs
[07:58] <varikonniemi> nrw, it uses ram
[07:59] <OpenSorce> nrw, I believe it stores it in RAM until you select the drives to use
[07:59] <nrw> i have 376mb of ram. is there hope of fitting the whole system on that?
[07:59] <varikonniemi> lubuntu yes, ubuntu not really
[07:59] <sgo11> llutz, just figure out the output of "service --status-all" is different from "sudo service --status-all". one shows [+] apache2, and another one shows [-] apache2. I have no idea why it's like this.
[07:59] <nrw> varikonniemi: crap. i don't have a way to switch at this point.
[08:00] <OpenSorce> nrw, I have Ubuntu on a machine with 256mb Ram. Using LXDE
[08:00] <varikonniemi> well as you might know ubuntu and lubuntu are almost the same thing, so after you find ubuntu unusably slow you can simply install lubuntu-desktop and login to lxde and youre set
[08:00] <Anastasya> nrw, THIS machine to be precise
[08:01] <nrw> :)
[08:01] <OpenSorce> Now just don't ask me to 'cat /etc/issue' of that machine it will give the currentists here heart failure :-)
[08:01] <nrw> i gave up on the installer after about 20 minutes. what i'm hearing is "wait longer". :)
[08:01] <ayaka> I have a problem, becuase I sat a furture time when I do svn update, then I correct the computer time, but when I build source, it will cause an error as makefile is created in furture time
[08:02] <varikonniemi> lubuntu-desktop being the name of the meta package... simply apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[08:02] <ayaka> then how to change the time stamp of a directionary
[08:02] <Ben64> installing 2 desktops like that makes for messy menus
[08:02] <OpenSorce> nrw, That's what I did, just give it time. Or you can setup another machine as an http server and host the files there
[08:02] <ikonia> ayaka: touch,
[08:03] <ayaka> ikonia, but the file has been existed
[08:03] <ikonia> ayaka: so ?
[08:03] <nrw> OpenSorce: ok. thanks for giving me hope. :)
[08:03] <ayaka> ikonia,  touch can still do that ?
[08:03] <varikonniemi> i had gnome shell, unity, kde, openbox, gnome fallback on my last media center that i use to showcase linux to friends ;) and i had no problems with many DE:s
[08:03] <ikonia> ayaka: yes, that's why I suggested it
[08:03] <ayaka> ikonia, thank you very much
[08:03] <nrw> Anastasya: OpenSorce: varikonniemi: thanks for your help.
[08:03] <OpenSorce> nrw, good luck :-)
[08:04] <varikonniemi> np
[08:04] <green_16> how can i change panel color (ubuntu12.10)?
[08:04] <varikonniemi> by changing themes
[08:04] <OpenSorce> green_16, define "panel"?
[08:04] <Kartagis> where can I find my installed "chrome"
[08:04] <Username_Banned> MyUnity?
[08:04] <Kartagis> ? (not chromium)
[08:04] <varikonniemi> Kartagis, in terminal: which chromium
[08:04] <OpenSorce> Kartagis, look for google-chrome
[08:05] <Kartagis> thanks OpenSorce
[08:06] <OpenSorce> Kartagis, sure... just installed it myself to end my flash troubles :-)
[08:06] <moonvoniron> i got an error with my french package : org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.PermissionsInvalid: The permission of the setuid helper is not correct
[08:07] <moonvoniron> help me please !
[08:08] <michael_>  I install the ubuntu 10.04 and vnc4server, when I use vncviewer under XP to visit the server, I can't always see the desktop.when I get the "connection refused(10061)",if I ping ubuntu ip, I get TTL=255.
[08:08] <michael_> could anybody help me?
[08:08] <ayaka> ikonia, but it can't change directories time
[08:08] <moonvoniron> n me?
[08:08] <ikonia> ayaka: it can
[08:09] <ayaka> touch -d '1 Oct 2012' trunk/
[08:09] <ayaka> it doesn't have any use
[08:09] <ikonia> it does
[08:09] <michael_> ?
[08:10] <ayaka> ikonia,  I mean the sub files and directories doesn't change
[08:10] <ikonia> ayaka: why would it
[08:10] <moonvoniron> an error with my french package : org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.PermissionsInvalid: The permission of the setuid helper is not correct
[08:10] <ikonia> you're not touching them
[08:10] <ayaka> ikonia,  then I need a for script ?
[08:10] <ikonia> ayaka: something like that would work
[08:10] <ayaka> ikonia, thank you
[08:11] <OpenSorce> ayaka, you need to contact The Doctor with psychic paper and get him to take you to the future...
[08:11] <OpenSorce> ayaka, I'm kidding of course, do what Iknoia said :-)
[08:12] <ayaka> OpenSorce,  thank you all the same
[08:12] <moonvoniron> help me please
[08:13] <raesi> hi
[08:13] <raesi> how to reset my sound ?
[08:13] <moonvoniron> how to put ubuntu in french sith this error :
[08:14] <moonvoniron>  org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.PermissionsInvalid: The permission of the setuid helper is not correct
[08:15] <green_16> which is the good media converter for ubuntu12.10?
[08:15] <Seven_Six_Two> green_16, transmageddon
[08:15] <n3rV3> moonvoniron, i have no idea on this error, does this link help? http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/444382-strange-problem-permission.html
[08:16] <n3rV3> maybe its a permissions issue
[08:21] <moonvoniron> yes,thx <n3rV3> !
[08:21] <Devilholk> Good morning. How do I verify that packages are in good shape? I am having weird problems and I suspect some shared library or such
[08:22] <prospero23> Hello, who can help me with the proprietary ATI driver fglrx?
[08:23] <cloudy_> prospero23, What is your question?
[08:24] <M13> is there a way to delete the key combo : Ctrl - C   ???
[08:24] <prospero23> cloudy_ i'm not succeeding with getting that to work on a fujitsu system
[08:24] <n3rV3> Devilholk, try "sudo aptitude -fs" to figure out if any are broken
[08:25] <prospero23> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12350934#post12350934
[08:26] <Devilholk> n3rV3: aptitude/dpkg or whatever thinks that everything is in order. I want to verify that the binaries in my local libraries are correct
[08:26] <Devilholk> n3rV3: I don't think I could just reinstall the libraries since almost the entire system depends on some of them
[08:26] <cloudy_> prospero23, please take a look at the following website: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu
[08:27] <llutz> Devilholk: compare md5sums with those from /var/lib/dpkg/info
[08:27] <Devilholk> llutz: Is there some tool that will do that for me?
[08:28] <Devilholk> llutz: I mean, just run trough the info-dir and check everything
[08:28] <cloudy_> prospero23, by the way, someone in the forum explained your situation. http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12351101&postcount=3
[08:28] <llutz> Devilholk: "man debsums"
[08:28] <Devilholk> llutz: Thanks =D
[08:28] <cloudy_> prospero23, meaning that you will not be able to get the proprietary ATI driver to work
[08:28] <prospero23> cloudy_ thank you, i know but i want to try anyway
[08:29] <n3rV3> llutz, thanks learnt something new
[08:30] <ayaka> I give up, re-svn co is more quick
[08:30] <ak5> hi, has anyone setup a spice server on 12.04 LTS
[08:31] <prospero23> there's no workaround at all..? i can't be the only one with this thing
[08:32] <MichaelChen> Debian DVD ISO is contain qt?
[08:32] <cloudy_> #leave
[08:32] <aum__> can anyone know how to check weather i am using 3g network or 2g, i have a 3g connection though its giving 2g speed.
[08:33] <aum__> i am using ubunt 11.04
[08:33] <auronandace> aum__: 11.04 is no longer supported
[08:33] <aum__> no such information in "dmesg|tail"
[08:34] <aum__> ok then do tell me for 12.04
[08:38] <surviet> hello
[08:39] <Seven_Six_Two> aum__, do you have a door app?
[08:40] <aum__> Seven_Six_Two, what does that mean...
[08:40] <Seven_Six_Two> nevermind. I thought this was offtopic for a sec.
[08:41] <ak5> is there a way to get a list of ppas?
[08:43] <cloudy> ak5,  grep -RoPish "ppa.launchpad.net/[^/]+/[^/ ]+" /etc/apt | sort -u | sed -r 's/\.[^/]+\//:/'
[08:48] <ak5> cloudy: hah, I meant available ones, not installed ones. I am looking to install SPICE
[08:48] <west> how do i flash working in browser 12.10 ubuntu studio.
[08:48] <slartibartfast> join #ubuntu-de
[08:49] <cloudy> ak5, sorry :) - try this: http://sourceforge.net
[08:49] <OerHeks> ak5 this is a start, but be carefull with PPA, those are not supported here !!  >>> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppas
[08:50] <cloudy> ak5, what does SPICE do?
[08:51] <Devilholk> It induces headaches
[08:51] <ak5> cloudy: it's basically a nice layer for networking on top of qemu
[08:51] <ak5> Devilholk: is that so? I am relaly just playing around with it because I want copy/paste to work
[08:52] <cloudy> ak5, thanks :)
[08:54] <cloudy> ak5, have you  looked at this: http://www.spice-space.org/download.html
[08:54] <Devilholk> ak5: It is a matter of taste I guess. I prefer to just hook up a circuit and scope it instead
[08:56] <cloudy> ak5, Devilholk, could it be that you are talking about 2 different SPICE' ?
[08:56] <ak5> Devilholk: I don't understand what it means to "hook up a circuit and scope it instead"
[08:56] <Devilholk> cloudy: Possible
[08:56] <Devilholk> I am talking about electronics simulation software
[08:57] <cloudy> Devilholk, ak5 is talking about: http://www.spice-space.org/home.html
[08:57] <nrdb> I am trying to install a second copy of ubuntu and multiboot ... there is a RAID5 (5 x 1TB) with LVM setup ... I am trying to setup Xen on the new ubuntu... to do this I need to modify grubs setup.. but after doing a "update-grub" ... the original grub setup is still used ... anyone know why?
[08:58] <Devilholk> cloudy: I see. Well, not exactly, my computer would explode if I tried to rev up a browser for the moment ^^
[08:58] <OerHeks> nrdb, did you upgrade grub from the new ubuntu, or the old install ?
[08:59] <nrdb> OerHeks, the new one.
[08:59] <OerHeks> nrdb, you should not install grub with the new install, and update the from the old one instead
[08:59] <blackshirt> hello
[09:01] <Marryjusz> guys i have installed bumblebee on 3.2.0-3 kernel then i get update
[09:01] <Marryjusz> and bumblebee stopped to work
[09:01] <Marryjusz> how should i recompile bumbleebe for new kernel?
[09:02] <nrdb> OerHeks, latter I intend to delete the old one... Is there a way around this?
[09:03] <OerHeks> nrdb, just boot in the old one, and run update-grub from there ?
[09:05] <Kartagis> !ati
[09:07] <nrdb> OerHeks, I get it ... that would probably fix the problem for now ... but when I get this all configured I was planing on deleting the old setup ... this would leave without being to update grub at all ... that would be a problem.
[09:08] <lollko> morning
[09:08] <OerHeks> nrdb, oke, reinstalling grub after removal of your first install is no problem.
[09:08] <blackshirt> night
[09:12] <west> how do i check my version of flash?
[09:12] <domie> where would the "tick" icon from the "Keep Aligned" and other checked on/off options from the context menus be located?
[09:15] <sgo11> west, dpkg -l | grep -i flash
[09:15] <Kowalczyk> hi. im having trouble with nvidia in ubuntu 12.10. I installed nvidia-current in software manager.. but when I go login now my desktop is messed up and when I run nvidia-setting it says that it doesnt use the nvidia driver. I have run nvidia-xconfig as root. but it doesnt read the xorg file it seems
[09:16] <nrdb> OerHeks, I found a setup mistake... the /boot wasn't setup correctly.
[09:16] <sgo11> west, if you are using chrome, check the link in browser: chrome://plugins
[09:17] <Kowalczyk> anything I have done wrong?
[09:17] <west> sgo11, thanks
[09:17] <sgo11> west, you're welcome.
[09:17] <mang0> Hey. I'm trying to fix GRUB from an Ubuntu LiveCD, but when I run "update-grub" after chrooting and mounting everything correctly, I get an error: "Basename: /lib/libc.so.6: `GLIBC_2.14` not found (required by basename)." What is this lib, and where should I put it?
[09:17] <snail_> Kowalczyk, what cpu and graphics board do u have?
[09:18] <cloudy> west, http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[09:18] <Kowalczyk> graphics are Nvidia Quadro NVS 295
[09:18] <sn[a]il> cpu?
[09:19] <Wobbo> Anyone knows about showing the battery panel at ubuntu 12.10? I can't find it and i am using a laptop so its rather important.
[09:19] <domie> where would the "tick" icon from the "Keep Aligned" in nautilus desktop context menu and other checked on/off options from the context menus be located?
[09:19] <WishArt> Use this tinyurl.com/8xg9fgz west
[09:19] <Kowalczyk> Intel I5 something. this is my work machine. so not sure
[09:20] <sn[a]il> well... you could check the xorg.config and see if all is correct
[09:20] <Kowalczyk> Intel i5-2500
[09:21] <Kowalczyk> ok.. hmm
[09:21] <sn[a]il> sry maybe the current xorg doesnt use config
[09:21] <Kowalczyk> hmm..
[09:21] <sn[a]il> can you still use x?
[09:21] <Kowalczyk> driver says nvidia
[09:22] <moonvoniron> what's fruity loops 4 linux?
[09:22] <sn[a]il> ok
[09:22] <Kowalczyk> yes. but the unity and stuff doesnt show. only the background
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> Kowalczyk: if you run:  lspci | grep -i vga    do you see an intel GPU and an Nvidia one?
[09:22] <sn[a]il> fruity loops for linux?
[09:22] <sn[a]il> cool :)
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> moonvoniron: lmms
[09:22] <moonvoniron> thx =)
[09:22] <Kowalczyk> nvidia corporation G98 Quadro NVS 295
[09:22] <Kowalczyk> ActionParsnip:
[09:22] <sn[a]il> frutiy loops is a music making program
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> Kowalczyk: as long as its not a switchable gpu thats a bonus :)
[09:23] <WishArt> Any channel for lmms? :)
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> WishArt: #lmms maybe
[09:23] <Kowalczyk> its not.. it has worked before... on other os... but then I downloaded driver from their website. nvidia
[09:24] <WishArt> Mmm... let me try ActionParsnip
[09:24] <WishArt> Tyvm ActionParsnip
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> Kowalczyk: could try the xorg update ppa (not the edgers)
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> Kowalczyk: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[09:24] <WishArt> Wow, perfect ActionParsnip
[09:25] <Kowalczyk> quantal ActionParsnip
[09:25] <Kowalczyk> http://www.itworld.com/software/304198/install-nvidia-drivers-ubuntu-1210 this?
[09:26] <mang0> I'll ask once more, then I'll try ##linux. Sorry for the repeat!
[09:26] <mang0> Hey. I'm trying to fix GRUB from an Ubuntu LiveCD, but when I run "update-grub" after chrooting and mounting everything correctly, I get an error: "Basename: /lib/libc.so.6: `GLIBC_2.14` not found (required by basename)." What is this lib, and where should I put it?
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> !info nvidia-current
[09:27] <Kowalczyk> can try the ppa explained on this site: http://www.itworld.com/software/304198/install-nvidia-drivers-ubuntu-1210 ?
[09:27] <Kowalczyk> at least that one doesnt work
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> Kowalczyk: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:28] <WishArt> I fixed grub from Ubuntu LiveCD mang0
[09:28] <moonvoniron> can someone give me the available dowload 4 lmms? it does'nt works in software center.
[09:28] <mang0> WishArt: Any idea why I'm getting that lib error?
[09:29] <WishArt> But i forgot now :( It's kinda do sudo from LiveCD and then gedit grub.cfg mang0
[09:29] <Kowalczyk> will try now ActionParsnip
[09:29] <moonvoniron> can someone give me the available dowload 4 lmms? it does'nt works in software center.
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> !info lmms
[09:30] <mang0> WishArt: I need to completely wipe grub completely and re-install, not just edit grub.cfg...and I'm getting this weird libc.so.6 error
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> moonvoniron: make sure you have the universe repo enabled
[09:30] <WishArt> ah ic, in that case i'm a noob as well sorry mang0
[09:30] <blackshirt> mang0, thats bad error, sure
[09:31] <mang0> WishArt: don't worry about it :) blackshirt: Oh dear, really?
[09:32] <blackshirt> !lxc
[09:32] <tt> hi
[09:32] <blackshirt> !ubottu find lxc
[09:32] <blackshirt> !find lxc
[09:32] <WishArt> I can see lmms on software center moonvoniron, which ubuntu version do u use?
[09:33] <WishArt> Or join #lmms moonvoniron
[09:33] <blackshirt> !info lxc
[09:37] <Kowalczyk> ActionParsnip: nah. that didnt work either. same problem
[09:37] <devswap> are there any slr owners here who use their ubuntu machine for manipulating raw files?
[09:38] <Kowalczyk> will try download the installfile from their website then
[09:38] <kexibq> hi guys, are any software developers/ programmers running lubuntu here?
[09:39] <blackshirt> maybe kexibq
[09:39] <Kowalczyk> will be back later
[09:39] <OerHeks> devswap, i used Darktable for that
[09:39] <devswap> oerheks: whats darktable?
[09:39] <WishArt> !info devswap
[09:41] <OerHeks> devswap, see http://www.darktable.org/ but the PPA for that is out of date, precise only >> https://launchpad.net/~pmjdebruijn/+archive/darktable-release-plus
[09:41] <talpur> hi community.....some one write the path in file /usr/bin/gcc      But how I find the path in my system for gcc...kindly write me the commnad to find
[09:41] <WishArt> !info darktable
[09:41] <domie> does anyone know where would the "tick" icon from the "Keep Aligned" in nautilus desktop context menu and other checked on/off options from the context menus be located?
[09:42] <ripthejacker> :)
[09:43] <domie> or any ideas how to find it or something
[09:43] <blackshirt> talpur, what you mean ?
[09:44] <devswap> oerheks: do you find darktable is the best one - I had another one suggested - just trying to find the name now - the icon was a circle of colour like a colour chooser
[09:44] <becom33> I have a log file . If i want remove only the logs with the "11/22/2222" in it . how can I remove them using grep ?
[09:44] <becom33> anyone ?
[09:44] <sublime83> try sed instead :)
[09:44] <somsip> becom33: maybe use sed
[09:45] <OerHeks> devswap, there are plugins for gimp too , UFRaw
[09:45] <talpur> blackshirt: I mean where gcc exit in my system, I want to find that path, put it in config file
[09:45] <becom33> Someguy123, a guide would be nice .for a example . if the log file is called .. access_logs and I want remove every line which has "11/22/2222"
[09:45] <becom33> ?
[09:45] <becom33> somsip, *
[09:46] <devswap> oerheks: it was raw therapee that was suggested to me - have you tried that?
[09:46] <OerHeks> devswap, or rawstudio, but i liked darktable better
[09:46] <blackshirt> talpur, maybe i'm missunderstand your question....but it was hard to reconfigure your ask
[09:46] <OerHeks> !info rawstudio
[09:47] <somsip> becom33: this is a start - http://www.unix.com/shell-programming-scripting/89037-sed-delete-lines-containing-text1-text2.html
[09:47] <OerHeks> devswap, nope, raw therapee is new for me.
[09:47] <cloudy> becom33, something like:  cat access_logs | grep -v 11/22/2222 > resultfile
[09:48] <cloudy> becom33, be aware that the line will not work, since the / are not escapted
[09:48] <cloudy> * escaped
[09:49] <devswap> oerheks: well obviously its new to me at the moment but looks good
[09:49] <becom33> cloudy, wut resultfile is doing
[09:49] <OerHeks> devswap, raw therapy is a little behind other OS versions http://rawtherapee.com/downloads
[09:50] <cloudy> becom33, that will have your output, otherwise you will fill up your screen depending on how many lines there are in access_logs
[09:50] <becom33> ahh ok
[09:50] <kapz> hipitihop, when will gimp 2.8 be supported on ubuntu 12.04?
[09:50] <kapz> hipitihop, when will gimp 2.8 be supported on ubuntu 12.04?
[09:51] <kapz> I dunno why my Hi is being converted to hipitihop !
[09:51] <cloudy> becom33, the file resultfile should, theoretically, have all the lines of your access_logs file without the lines that include the date 11/22/2222
[09:52] <Alpic> Hi all. Is there anyway to make direct web apps in firefox (without any toolbar and with integration in unity bar) ?
[09:52] <WishArt> Already supported kapz
[09:52] <blackness> kapz, build the newest version of gimp if you want it ;)
[09:52] <OerHeks> kapz, gimp 2.8.2.1 is available in 12.10, not sure it will be in 12.04
[09:52] <devswap> oerheks: when you say a litlte behind other versions - what do you mean?
[09:53] <kapz> WishArt, supported? how?
[09:53] <killer> ubuntu 12.04 uses systemd or systemv by default
[09:53] <blackness> 2.8 is on 12.10
[09:53] <blackness> 2.6 is on 12.04
[09:53] <blackshirt> !openstack
[09:53] <WishArt> Adding apt link kapz
[09:53] <kapz> yeah but is there any easy way to use 2.8 on 12.04/
[09:53] <blackshirt> !find openstack
[09:53] <blackness> yes, download the tarball and build from source.
[09:53] <kapz> ok
[09:53] <OerHeks> devswap look at the version numbers, ubuntu - 4.0.9.1 and the newest is 4.0.9.50 ( for windows)
[09:54] <Alpic> anything on webapps integration ? (i've tested the canonical feature but I don't really understand the meaning of it)
[09:54] <devswap> oerheks: oh i see what you mean - I dont see that as an issue as such - I guess its a matter of trying both the one you suggest and that one and see how easy it is to perform tasks
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | kapz
[09:55] <OerHeks> devswap, that is the best thing to do, indeed.
[09:55] <WishArt> Kapz: http://askubuntu.com/questions/134035/how-do-i-get-gimp-2-8
[09:55] <WishArt> kapz: http://askubuntu.com/questions/134035/how-do-i-get-gimp-2-8
[09:56] <devswap> oerheks: I presume darktable is non destructive with the original raw - as in it keeps the changes in a separate file?
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> kapz: the link ubottu gavee lets you search the PPAs (also duckduckgo has the !ppa bang)
[09:56] <talpur> blackshirt: may be I couldn't explain my question..I have an other question plz see my past and then help me http://paste.ubuntu.com/1355175/
[09:56] <WishArt> That's the easier way kapz
[09:57] <blackness> im installing gimp 2.8 on 12.04
[09:57] <talpur> hi community see my paste and help to resolve
[09:57] <kapz> gotcha, thanks WishArt
[09:57] <blackness> kapz: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:otto-kesselgulasch/gimp; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install gimp
[09:57] <WishArt> yvw kapz
[09:58] <blackness> !addppa
[09:58] <blackness> !ppa-purge
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> kapz: the ppa search is groovy :)
[09:58] <OerHeks> devswap, yes, it is safe,  but i always make a copy, just in case...
[09:59] <blackness> ppa search, where?
[09:59] <Alpic> another thing. I've removed online account software. Thanks to that, no more top right menu item. But when I am disconnected, the item come back in red fonts. Any way to remove it completely ?
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | blackness
[10:00] <blackness> ohh nice
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> blackness: Or if you use duckduckgo, use the !ppa syntax in the search
[10:01] <kapz> yep it is :) Done it's installed now, thanks all :)
[10:01] <tux9th> Hi I have a question: Whenever I activate UFW on my remote machine ssh gets terribly slow. I have port 22/tcp open, what else is ther to do?
[10:01] <blackness> im gonna write a eggdrop script to search this ;P
[10:01] <talpur> hi community see my paste and help to resolve http://paste.ubuntu.com/1355175/
[10:01] <tux9th> it takes forever to login and type commands etc
[10:03] <nrdb> tux9th, have you looked to see how busy the computer is?
[10:04] <talpur> hi members which command should be used to know the whole information about hardware in system
[10:04] <blackness> lshw?
[10:04] <tux9th> nrdb: no but I don't see why activating ufw should slow the compjuter so much that it takes me 1min to login via ssh
[10:04] <tux9th> nrdb: load does not increase
[10:05] <WishArt> Yep usually i experienced when i can't use my mouse until re-login.
[10:06] <nrdb> tux9th, nether do I ... does disabling it allow faster logins?
[10:06] <tux9th> yes
[10:06] <tux9th> after I disable it everything goes back to normal
[10:06] <WishArt> I think newer ubuntu is heavier. No prob in previous version.
[10:07] <killer> ubuntu12.04 uses alsa or pulseaudio by default?
[10:09] <Squarism> im on 12.04 and i cant reconfigure Ctrl+Super+(Left/Right) that is used to semi-maximize windows right and left. Can i reconfigure this in some other way than installing ccsm (that everybody says is dangerous and all)
[10:09] <Squarism> ...in unity that is
[10:09] <b0w> anyone knows if i need to make a swap partition for linux when tryign to dual boot ubuntu with windows 8, or the installer its going to do it?
[10:09] <ali__> hi
[10:10] <b0w> anyone knows if i need to make a swap partition for linux when tryign to dual boot ubuntu with windows 8, or the installer its going to do it?
[10:10] <nrdb> tux9th, I don't know... does ufw log stuff?
[10:10] <WishArt> There's an option to do that in installing process b0w
[10:10] <tux9th> nrdb: hm! I don't know have to check
[10:10] <almoxarife> ufw does log
[10:11] <tux9th> almoxarife: where?
[10:11] <almoxarife> rather the rules created get logged
[10:11] <WishArt> Installation will go without swap by default b0w
[10:11] <b0w> WishArt, ok cool, do you kbow how much space its needed for the swap partition with a 6gb ram memory but expansive to 24 i think..
[10:11] <WishArt> Usually i use 2 times of ram size
[10:11] <almoxarife>   /var/log/ufw.log
[10:11] <WishArt> Usually i use 2 times of ram size b0w
[10:11] <tux9th> almoxarife: that one does not exist
[10:12] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[10:12] <blackness> and it begins
[10:12] <talpur> blackness: Thanks but can you see the paste...and suggest me tips, because from "lshw" I couldn't achieve the purpose
[10:12] <talpur> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1355175/
[10:12] <WishArt> Usually i use 2 times of ram size b0w
[10:12] <b0w> WishArt, ok so like 48 gb will do it right?
[10:12] <fairuz> When is the show? :D
[10:13] <WishArt> Yep, that's what i read on tutorial b0w
[10:13] <blackness> that looks like sysctl vars talpur
[10:13] <blackness> or values pulled from /proc
[10:14] <WishArt> Now I'm wondering how to change swap partition myself after ubuntu installed.
[10:14] <b0w> WishArt, i got right now a partition of 350 for windows, and i got one with 20 gb for / and one for 330 for /home, the installer will make everything else?
[10:14] <Alpic> I've removed online account software. Thanks to that, no more top right menu item. But when I am disconnected, the item come back in red fonts. Any way to remove it completely ?
[10:15] <b0w> hahaha im not sure about this, heheh are you?
[10:15] <WishArt> Actually when we choose custom the installation will ask where to install and leave the rest b0w
[10:16] <sn[a]il> hm
[10:16] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[10:16] <floridsdorf> hi
[10:16] <WishArt> So it will ask root, home & swap only b0w
[10:16] <Alpic> I've removed online account software. Thanks to that, no more top right menu item. But when I am disconnected, the item come back in red fonts. Any way to remove it completely ?
[10:16] <almoxarife> OerHeks: the server you are on?
[10:17] <almoxarife> OerHeks: zelazny?
[10:17] <WishArt> Hehe.. i will find out later b0w. Hopefully there's a way to do that
[10:17] <OerHeks> wow mass-join :-D
[10:17] <OerHeks> welcome back !
[10:17] <almoxarife> OerHeks: zelazny is the closest to me, in oregon
[10:18] <WishArt> And mass quit too before that OerHeks :D
[10:19] <OerHeks> almoxarife, yes? i see with my connection details verve.freenode.net ?
[10:20] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[10:23] <WishArt> Nice info ubottu
[10:30] <WishArt> b0w? Yes we can resize the swap later on
[10:33] <Gyro54> Hi!
[10:33] <blackness> eh, i'm bored.
[10:34] <WishArt> Lol
[10:35] <WishArt> how long will this takes?
[10:35] <Gyro54> My Thunderbird has lost all its menus and all the Unity panel. Running 64 bit 12.04
[10:36] <WishArt> Gyro54: please wait a while.
[10:36] <DJones> Gyro54: ON the top bar in Ubuntu do you get the File/Edit etc menu?
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Gyro54: reinstall thunderbird-globalmenu if it exists
[10:38] <Gyro54> DJones: No all menus are gone. I have to alt-tab to go to something else to allow to shutdown etc. I can control from the Unity icons when in another program.
[10:39] <Gyro54> ActionParsnip: I removed and replaced the Global Menus but the problem still exists
[10:39] <DJones> Gyro54: I wondered whether the menu's had just been switched off from the View tab, but obviously not that
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> !info thunderbird-globalmenu
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> Gyro54: so you ran:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install thunderbird-globalmenu
[10:40] <Gyro54> This is my work computer so I cant get to it at the moment
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> Gyro54: then log off and log on
[10:40] <Gyro54> Menus work fine for everything else
[10:40] <tux9th> does anyone what port I have to open besides udp tcp 53 to allow rDNS lookup?
[10:41] <tux9th> my server cannot resolve the DNS and therefore takes forever at ssh login etc
[10:41] <Gyro54> ActionParsnip: No did the reinstall from the software centre - removed and replaced
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> tux9th: rdns uses the same port as dns
[10:42] <tux9th> ActionParsnip: so what's going wrong then :/ I opened port 53 and it still takes forever... (I'm on UFW btw)
[10:42] <Gyro54> ctionParsnip: I will run reinstall in the morning. Thanks
[10:42] <tux9th> also when I change user with sudo it said unable to resolv ehost
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> tux9th: if you run:  hostname    it will show your hostname
[10:43] <tux9th> yes
[10:43] <tux9th> it does
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> txwikinger: if you then run:  gedit /etc/resolv.conf   is there an entry for that hostname in the file
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> tux9th: ^
[10:43] <tux9th> no
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> tux9th: that's why
[10:43] <tux9th> but if I disable the firewall it works :P
[10:44] <tux9th> so I primarily think that the firewall is faulty
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> tux9th: did you change the /etc/hostname file recently by any remote chance?
[10:44] <tux9th> no
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> tux9th: you need to have the hostname in /etc/resolv.conf so the system can resolve its own hostname to 127.0.0.1
[10:45] <tux9th> in resolve.conf are all the nameservers etc
[10:45] <_cronus_> ActionParsnip, aren't hosts stored in /etc/hosts?
[10:45] <tux9th> yes
[10:45] <tux9th> /etc/hostnames doesn't exist
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> _cronus_: oh yeah, my bad
[10:46] <tux9th> it says 127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain localhost
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> tux9th: sorry, it should have an entry in /etc/hosts to resolve the hostname to 127.0.0.1
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> tux9th: what is the hostname?
[10:46] <nrdb> tux9th, you can use the network-manager to set the DNS so that /etc/resolv.conf is setup correctly
[10:46] <tux9th> j35739.servers.jiffybox.net
[10:47] <tux9th> nrdb:  I'm on a remote machine no gui I think network-manager is a GUI right?
[10:47] <nrdb> tux9th, yes it is.
[10:48] <tux9th> no gui there
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> tux9th: then you need to change:  127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain localhost    to:  127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain localhost  j35739.servers.jiffybox.net  j35739
[10:48] <tux9th> What I don't understand is why this only happens when I turn on the firewall
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> tux9th: the system needs to resolve itself to 127.0.0.1, it affects a lot of the system as localhost is used a lot
[10:56] <Iszak> Anyone know of a back up tool that uses Amazon Glacier?
[10:57] <dr_willis> Iszak:  cant say ive ever heard that one mentioned in this channel.  check askubuntu.com yet?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> Iszak: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2047837
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> !find glacieruploader
[10:59] <Iszak> Unless anyone has any other suggestions instead of Amazon Glacier? The retrieval time does suck tbh.
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Iszak: there is a client you can compile on that page I linked....
[11:00] <Iszak> ActionParsnip yeah, not a fan on compiling :P
[11:00] <Iszak> plus it's java.
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> https://bugs.launchpad.net/duplicity/+bug/1039511
[11:03] <tux9th> ActionParsnip: it seems I fixed some part of it
[11:03] <tux9th> ssh login takes forever but sudo su works now
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> tux9th: I suggest you use:  sudo -i
[11:04] <tux9th> the external rdns lookup still doesn't work the internal seems to work now
[11:04] <tux9th> at first it always said couldn't resolve host
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> tux9th: sudo su   will make you use root's profile. sudo -i    will use your user's
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> tux9th: yes but you can see why
[11:04] <tux9th> k will do from now on
[11:04] <tux9th> you know it always prints from where the last logi nwas
[11:05] <tux9th> if I turn off the firewall I get my rdns standing there
[11:05] <tux9th> if I turn on the firewall I get the IP only
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> tux9th: do you have suitable DNS servers in resolv.conf ?
[11:05] <tux9th> I assume so as it works with firewall turned off :P!
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> tux9th: can you ping the DNS servers when the firewall is on?
[11:06] <tux9th> hm nope :p
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> tux9th: didn't you think to test that initially?
[11:07] <tux9th> nope...
[11:07] <tux9th> I still don't get why
[11:07] <kazik> Hi, I have a problem with ntfs drive on xubuntu, can anyone help me?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> tux9th: if names don't resolve when the firewall is up then testing connecting connectivity to the DNS is a smart move, wouldn't you say?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> kazik: what is the issue?>
[11:08] <kazik> I installed xubuntu on one drive (ext4) and I have another drive (ntfs) but now that I have installed it, I can't see it or access it in any way
[11:08] <tux9th> ActionParsnip: seems so. But I don't get why the connectivity isn't there. That's why I initially asked what to do to make the firewall allow all of that :S
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> kazik: is it an internal partition?
[11:08] <kazik> yup,
[11:08] <tux9th> ActionParsnip: I opened port 53 for dns
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> tuxthen why ddn't you think to test that?
[11:08] <tux9th> okay well we're there but what to do now?!
[11:09] <kazik> I tried ntfs-config but there weren't any drives there to mess with
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> tux9th: run a tracerote to the DNS, see where the link dies
[11:09] <kazik> I tried blkid command but it only shows ext4 drive and swap area
[11:09] <kazik> so, what do I do, anybody has any idea?
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> kazik: does it show up if you run:  sudo fdisk -l
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> tux9th: traceroute   sorry
[11:10] <tux9th> ActionParsnip: it doesn't get out
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> tux9th: then I'd check your firewall logs
[11:10] <kazik> yes it does
[11:10] <kazik> /dev/sda2
[11:10] <kazik> extended
[11:10] <kazik> what now?
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> kazik: sda5 will be the extended partition, if any
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> kazik: I suggest you add the partition in /etc/fstab so that it mounts at boot
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> kazik: if it's just for one time access, you can run:  sudo mkdir /media/ntfs; sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/ntfs -o rw,users,uid=1000
[11:12] <kazik> hmm okay, how do I do it?
[11:12] <kazik> yeah okay, but I want it permanently
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> kazik: there are tonnes of guides online for adding NTFS to /etc/fstab
[11:12] <kazik> okay
[11:12] <kazik> thanks :)
[11:12] <kazik> I'll do it
[11:12] <FloodBot1> kazik: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> kazik: try websearching a little rather than IMMEDIATELY asking 'how do I' etc
[11:13] <BuGo_> why script works when i ./script run it but fails when run-parts tries to run it?
[11:13] <elcot> in debain distro google chrome facebook page never load , help me .
[11:14] <llutz> BuGo_: what is the scripts filename?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> elcot: ask in #debian
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> elcot: this is ubuntu support, not debian
[11:15] <elcot> ActionParsnip, thank you
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> elcot: :)
[11:17] <tux9th> ActionParsnip: ufw blocks port 53 packets but they're on the allow list <_<
[11:17] <navik> repository with libavcodec52 for ubuntu 12.04? Anyone know one of those? Tried googling some, but just hit bogus info.
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | navik
[11:17] <BuGo_> llutz: nothing special: database_backup
[11:18] <BuGo_> llutz: i think i found what was wrong #!/bin/sh was required at the start of the script
[11:18] <BuGo_> my bad
[11:18] <patap> !addppa
[11:19] <patap> !ppapurge
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> !find  libavcodec52 precise
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> navik: seems its in winff
[11:34] <majd> Hey #ubuntu - i'm trying to use git to clone a github repo, but i get this error: fatal: Unable to look up github.com (port 9418) (Temporary failure in name resolution)
[11:35] <blackshirt> majd, check your internet connection
[11:35] <majd> pinging google.com gives this error: ping: unknown host google.com
[11:35] <blackshirt> your dns
[11:35] <majd> i think it's a problem with dns
[11:35] <blackshirt> Check your gateway
[11:35] <tehdark45> there is your problem right there
[11:35] <majd> i'm sshing into a virtual machine on a server
[11:35] <blackshirt> majd, try to use other dns, google dns maybe
[11:37] <majd> blackshirt: ok, i'll try to setup google dns
[11:40] <majd> ok, changing the dns to google's dns by modifying /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf does not solve the problem
[11:41] <blackness> so try /etc/resolv.conf
[11:41] <blackness> nameserver 4.1.1.1; nameserver 4.1.1.2 i think is google dns
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> blackness: 8.8.8.8  and 8.8.4.4
[11:42] <blackness> 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[11:42] <blackness> level3 is 4.1.1.1 and 4.1.1.2
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> majd: if you run:   echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null       does it then work?
[11:42] <blackness> then you got foolsdns and speakeasy dns thats public ;)
[11:44] <majd> ActionParsnip: awesome, it works!
[11:44] <majd> thanks :)
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> majd: it won't work after a reboot though
[11:45] <blackness> majd, http://theos.in/windows-xp/free-fast-public-dns-server-list/
[11:45] <majd> ActionParsnip: how can i make it permanent?
[11:45] <blackness> it explains windows, linux, bsd.
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> majd: sure: echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail > /dev/null
[11:46] <blackness> why wouldnt he put it in /etc/resolv.conf and avoid his ISP dns?
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> blackness: resolv.conf is generated, it's not a static file (unless you uninstall network manager)
[11:47] <blackness> it'll only change on dhclient renewal wont it?
[11:47] <blackness> the linux guide on that site suggests resolv.conf lol.
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> blackness: the tail file gets added to the end of the file when the DHCP DNS has been added (if any)
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> blackness: yeah then the guy who wrote that doesn't know how the resolvconf works in newer releases then :)
[11:48] <majd> ActionParsnip: great to know. Thanks again.
[11:48] <blackness> so resolv.conf would be acceptable if the iface was static, yes?
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> blackness: yes and if network manager wasn't about
[11:48] <blackness> network manager isnt in the -server builds is it?
[11:49] <DJones> Is it possible to lock a folder to the unity launch bar
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> blackness: I believe it still runs a s a service. It can be configured by nm-cli
[11:51] <lollko> r
[11:51] <blackness> ahh. thanks for the intel.
[11:51] <blackness> time to run..7am and its go time ;)
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> DJones: if you add a bookmark to the folder it will show in the quicklist (right click menu) for nautilus
[11:52] <DJones> ActionParsnip: tHANKS
[12:06] <Cale> Hello, I'm on natty, and it's now started asking me to upgrade to oneiric every single day. What's the easiest way to turn that message off? I have no intention of upgrading until the whole Gnome 3 / Unity insanity calms down and people go back to designing more reasonable desktop environments.
[12:07] <rainbowwarrior2> hello
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Cale: turn off automatic services. Natty is EOL so not supported in any way, nor will you get any updates
[12:07] <Cale> right, I know that :)
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Cale: you don't have to use Gnome you know, if you install XUbuntu you won't even have Gnome / Unity installed
[12:08] <rainbowwarrior2> Hi, i am using Ubuntu 12.120 and every time i try and install something using the software center , each time at the end of an install it says " package fail " and it does not matter what I try and install, how can I fix this please ?
[12:08] <Cale> I like Gnome 2
[12:08] <rainbowwarrior2> 12.10 *
[12:08] <gordonjcp> rainbowwarrior2: can you pastebin the error verbatim?
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Cale: there are forks of gnome2, but they are not supported here
[12:09] <fairuz> rainbowwarrior2: Do you able install through terminal at least? Or same error?
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Cale: XFCE is made using GTK, so you can run your Gnome apps without issue and it will look and feel like Gnome2
[12:09] <rainbowwarrior2> fairuz, same error
[12:09] <Cale> Yeah, I've considered doing that. If push comes to shove, I might end up with XFCE.
[12:10] <gordonjcp> I used to like Gnome 2
[12:10] <gordonjcp> it's no longer supported and I'm not keen on Gnome 3
[12:10] <gordonjcp> fortunately, Unity is much better than either of them
[12:10] <mazraq> Hi there
[12:11] <Cale> I can't stand Unity
[12:11] <philinux> Cale: use another DE
[12:11] <mazraq> I am having issues with video streaming online it's a bit choppy
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> Cale  i'm using lubuntu, it's very swift
[12:11] <mazraq> any help?
[12:11] <Cale> philinux: That's what I'm doing. I'm using Gnome 2. :P
[12:12] <mazraq> I'm using Xubuntu 12.10
[12:12] <Cale> Somewhat unrelated, I'd also have to work out how to disable jack sensing in the newer kernel, because it is really obnoxious.
[12:12] <philinux> Cale: have you experienced mate or cinnamon
[12:12] <mazraq> on Lenovo X100e
[12:12] <Cale> (Having headphones plugged in kills my speakers)
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> Unity isn't a DE, just so you know :)
[12:12] <philinux> ActionParsnip: indeed a compiz plugin it is
[12:12] <Cale> (So I have to physically plug and unplug my headphones all the time)
[12:13] <dr_willis> Cale:  i see people in here with the opposite problem all the time. ;) both being on when plugged in
[12:13] <rainbowwarrior2> gordonjcp , just seeing if i can paste the error into pastebin now
[12:13] <Cale> I actually like the option of having both.
[12:13] <Cale> So that I can have headphones with better stereo separation while other people in my room can still hear
[12:14] <dr_willis> ive never seen a definitive fix/tool]setting to set it one way or the other
[12:14] <Cale> Of course, I also need the ability to control the volume of each independently.
[12:14] <HappyNewYear13> hello, i need my IP address to be shown in the panel. what app can i use?
[12:14] <Cale> and the new volume control panels seem really derpy and only give me a master volume control :P
[12:14] <dr_willis> Cale:  perhaps in that pavcontrol tool
[12:14] <Cale> (all the pulseaudio crap)
[12:15] <philinux> Cale: I always though that was the default. plug in head phones should always kill the speakers
[12:15] <Cale> philinux: That's ridiculous
[12:15] <dr_willis> philinux:  its supposed to work  that way.
[12:15] <HappyNewYear13> nevermind, i found one
[12:15] <Cale> philinux: I have no idea where people got that idea.
[12:15] <Cale> It only makes sense for things like tablet PCs.
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Cale: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[12:15] <philinux> thats the way it's always worked on my lappy pc and phone
[12:15] <dr_willis> its how radios, cellphones, and other devices work...
[12:16] <Cale> ActionParsnip: It would be pointless to do that right now, because I'm on natty and don't have jack sensing at all.
[12:16] <dr_willis> with smart jack/sensing its now more flexiable
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Cale: gotcha
[12:17] <Cale> But when I upgrade (which I've tried on another hard drive), I end up dealing with that annoyance.
[12:17] <dr_willis> i still wonder  how these things can tell i plugged in a mic. vs a headphones
[12:17] <Cale> I would *much* rather control the use and mixing of my headphones entirely in software.
[12:17] <Cale> I don't want to have to climb under my desk and physically adjust how things are plugged in to change between headphones and speakers
[12:18] <Cale> It's stupid to suggest that I should have to.
[12:18] <dr_willis> its stupid to have such an attitude with us.
[12:18] <Cale> (I'm not directing that comment at you guys specifically)
[12:19] <Cale> But there have been people who seem to think that this should be the case.
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> There may be a module option to tell the OS not to mute sound when you shove phones in
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> Cale  you could suggest such software on !brainstorm
[12:19] <dr_willis> wonder if jackd would allow more controll also
[12:19] <dr_willis> i barely understand jackd
[12:19] <rainbowwarrior2> gordonjcp never mind i fixed my problem, for some reason zoneminder was effecting everything and since i removed it, i can install things and remove things again without errors
[12:20] <Cale> For the entire time that I've been using computers with sound cards in them, say, since 1992 or so, there has been a way to control headphone and speaker volume and muting independently of one another, and sound has gone out to both ports at once.
[12:20] <Cale> It's only been in the last couple of years or so that I've started seeing this jack sensing stuff come about.
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Cale: the default is to mute the speakers, but i'd imagine there is a way with module options
[12:21] <rainbowwarrior2> Hi, what is the best software to convert avi to mp4 for Ubuntu 12.10 please ?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> rainbowwarrior2: there is no single best software to do that, in any OS
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> rainbowwarrior2  ffmpeg or avconv (which is basically the same)
[12:22] <dr_willis> rainbowwarrior2:  an avi file could be using the mprg codec and thus be a mp4.. but theres several converter tools in the repos
[12:22] <dr_willis> rainbowwarrior2:  avidemux, arista, winff and otheres.. many are frontends to ffmpeg or mencoder
[12:23] <rainbowwarrior2> ok thank you ActionParsnip  , MonkeyDust and dr_willis  :o)
[12:23] <philinux> rainbowwarrior2: I came across this the other day http://www.iloveubuntu.net/convert-music-videos-pictures-and-isos-format-junkie-powerful-all-one-utility
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> rainbowwarrior2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=916664
[12:23] <dr_willis> !info arista
[12:23] <rainbowwarrior2> ok will take a look thank you philinux and ActionParsnip
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> rainbowwarrior2: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/02/how-to-convert-mp4-to-avi-under-ubuntu.html
[12:23] <dr_willis> arista  seems to work well.. but the interface is a little weird
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> rainbowwarrior2: your first question was as intelligent as "what is the best colour of the rainbow"
[12:24] <Lachlan-BigPC> uu]\
[12:24] <Lachlan-BigPC> 0090000
[12:24] <Lachlan-BigPC> 9090909090909090909090909999999999999999999
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> rainbowwarrior2: one doesn't exist, people just have preferences, one isn't outroght 'best' over the rest
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> Lachlan-BigPC  it works, you're in
[12:24] <Cale> Another little thing that I like about Gnome 2 (though I had to rebuild my audio packages with different compilation flags to get it) is that there's a volume control panel applet which I can stick more than one of on the panel and have them control master/PCM/headphone separately.
[12:24] <Lachlan-BigPC> munky dust
[12:24] <rainbowwarrior2> ok thank you ActionParsnip  :o)
[12:25] <Cale> At least for gnome 2, I kind of know what steps I need to take to get rid of any trace of PulseAudio.
[12:26] <Cale> (and really, I have nothing against PulseAudio, except for the fact that it takes the 20 or 30 volume controls supported by my sound hardware and hides them all behind a single derpy master volume knob.)
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Cale: you can run or not run pulseaudio in ANY DE, the desktop doesn't dictate the sound stuff
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Cale: you can even run a desktopless OS and run full sound suites etc
[12:26] <Cale> ActionParsnip: Yes, this is a separate issue, but not entirely orthogonal
[12:27] <DJones> ActionParsnip: Just for info, I copied the Home folder desktop file & set the folder I wanted to open via nauilus & just dragged it onto the unity bar, just one less click than a nautilus bookmark
[12:27] <Cale> Because the newer desktop environments don't have as nice volume control applets for plain ALSA.
[12:27] <wastrel> i just use alsamixer
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Cale: so Gnome2 being able to get rid of pulse is nonsensical, you can do it in any DE if you can do it in Gnome2
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> Cale  true, everything was better when we was young
[12:27] <Cale> ActionParsnip: If I want to write some code, I can do that.
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> DJones: sweet
[12:28] <Cale> ActionParsnip: There's nothing *in principle* which prevents Gnome 3 from having nice ALSA mixing facilities.
[12:28] <Cale> But it doesn't have them.
[12:28] <wastrel> what about alsamixer?
[12:28] <domie> does anyone know where would the icons in nautilus desktop context menu and other context menus be located?, i can't seem to find them in the icon theme hierarchy
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Cale: it can though
[12:29] <Cale> wastrel: alsamixer is okay, but inconvenient compared with having nice little panel widgets which are always available
[12:29] <wastrel> panel widgets?  like an icon?
[12:29] <wastrel> or like dockapps?
[12:30] <Laurenceb> hi
[12:30] <Laurenceb> i have an issue with samba
[12:30] <wastrel> oh panel like the menubar sorry i was thinking the launcher
[12:30] <Laurenceb> it cant see the users?
[12:30] <wastrel> speaking of the launcher why do i have an amazon icon in mine
[12:30] <Laurenceb> i need to share with specific users, but the list of users isnt populating in the gui manager
[12:30] <PoolShark_> do you have security = user or securtiy = share in smb.conf?
[12:30] <Cale> Yes, I have three little icons with an indication of the volume level for Master, PCM and headphone volume and muting state, and when I click one, it shows a slider control and checkbox hich I can use to adjust the volume and muting.
[12:31] <Cale> which*
[12:31] <wastrel> my menubar is very full
[12:32] <Laurenceb> PoolShark_: me?
[12:32] <Cale> That sort of thing is really convenient for me, and I haven't been able to easily set up anything too analogous in the newer desktop environments.
[12:32] <PoolShark_> Laurenceb: yes
[12:32] <AquaL1te> when will 12.04 be stable?..
[12:32] <Laurenceb> ok
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> AquaL1te: its already stable
[12:32] <Laurenceb> PoolShark_: where is smb.conf?
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> AquaL1te: also Quantal has been released and is stable
[12:32] <PoolShark_> Laurenceb: /etc/samba
[12:33] <blackness> isnt 12.04 already stable?
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> AquaL1te  12.10 is the latest stable
[12:33] <AquaL1te> well, it even can't reboot/power off
[12:33] <blackness> do what AquaL1te...
[12:33] <sobig> in my case, 12.04 is faster than 11.04 and 10.04
[12:33] <blackness> how are you commanding shutdown?
[12:33] <llutz_> AquaL1te: it can, now what
[12:33] <Laurenceb> #   security = user
[12:33] <blackness> sobig, i still use 8.04 ;P
[12:33] <Laurenceb> PoolShark_: ^
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> AquaL1te: eve 13.04 powers off, hibernates and suspends here...
[12:34] <gener1c> what is this package: 4.1.2-dfsg-1ubuntu1
[12:34] <AquaL1te> no it can't, lenovo x220 and t410
[12:34] <PoolShark_> Laurenceb: hrm... what GUI is it?
[12:34] <sobig> grr, there is no lts version before 10.04
[12:34] <AquaL1te> multiple installations, different hardware
[12:34] <gener1c> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox/4.1.2-dfsg-1ubuntu1
[12:34] <Laurenceb> PoolShark_: Samba Server Configuration
[12:34] <AquaL1te> kernel upgrade doesn't work either
[12:34] <Cale> and then the other thing which stops me from upgrading is the fact that I started having random crashes to login screen, like at least one per day, which I don't get in natty.
[12:34] <gener1c> i cant find it yet its a dep for vbox
[12:34] <AquaL1te> keeps haning in the plymouth animation
[12:34] <blackness> AquaL1te, shutdown -r now, reboot, shutdown -h now, halt after shutdown..
[12:34] <blackness> and ill get the other commands
[12:34] <sobig> my 10.04 is still supported until 2013
[12:34] <Laurenceb> PoolShark_: http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-configure-samba-using-a-graphical-interface-in-ubuntu/
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> !find dfsg > gener1c
[12:34] <Laurenceb> im followiung that
[12:35] <PoolShark_> Laurenceb: I've only ever configured samba by editing smb.conf... not sure why the GUI is being stupid
[12:35] <AquaL1te> blackness, right... that's not a fix
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> AquaL1te: are there any bugs reported?
[12:35] <AquaL1te> but i guess none of you have this problem?
[12:35] <llutz_> gener1c: dfsg = debian free software guidelines
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> !find dfsg | gener1c
[12:35] <PoolShark_> if you can create a share with the GUI, and then go in and add the "valid users = @user" to the share section in smb.conf, that will probably do what I think you are trying to do
[12:35] <gener1c> great
[12:36] <blackness> AquaL1te, i never goto sleepmode, or hibernate mode..just shutdown or reboot..so i wouldnt know.
[12:36] <gener1c> so anyways it doesnt exist anymore
[12:36] <PoolShark_> (replace "@user" with the name of the user you want to have access to that share)
[12:36] <pybe> AquaL1te, I have a Lenovo X201 and everything works fine with 12.*
[12:36] <Cale> I'd really like a fork of Gnome 2 which didn't rename everything like Mate does, and which is truer to the original Gnome 2 than Cinnamon.
[12:36] <Laurenceb> PoolShark_: the gui wont let me finish without users
[12:36] <AquaL1te> pybe: well it can't be everything :D or you only use the terinal
[12:36] <gener1c> llutz_: the pack doesnt exist
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Cale: Gnome2 is dead upstream, I suggest you move on
[12:36] <Laurenceb> ill speak to out network guys
[12:37] <llutz_> gener1c: and your question is?
[12:37] <Laurenceb> it may be i cant see everything properly from here
[12:37] <PoolShark_> Laurenceb: don't know what to tell you then... other than maybe try using swat or just do it in smb.conf yourself
[12:37] <Laurenceb> ok
[12:37] <Cale> ActionParsnip: Well, it may be dead upstream, but I don't have to like it :)
[12:37] <gener1c> llutz_: is it supposed to exist or is it just a way to tell me to do it manually
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Cale: very true
[12:38] <AquaL1te> is there a way to contact ubuntu developers?
[12:38] <pybe> AquaL1te, I havent had any problems so far other than with my Gobi 2000 wwlan card which was my fault through bad setup
[12:38] <BluesKaj> AquaL1te, try #ubuntu-devel
[12:39] <Cale> ActionParsnip: It just feels like in the past couple of years, all the UI designers have decided that they're bored with their jobs and started changing everything just for the sake of making things different. We have all these new flaky desktop environments right at the same time as Windows 8 is happening.
[12:39] <AquaL1te> pybe: well my experience is the worst... even my debian unstable machine has less regressions that this 'stable enterprise' release
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> Cale: LXDE has stayed the same
[12:40] <AquaL1te> BluesKaj: i'll give it a shot
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Cale: Lubuntu simply changes the theme
[12:40] <pybe> AquaL1te, do you have any logs or error messages from your issues?
[12:41] <AquaL1te> no it doesn't come far enough to start logging
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> AquaL1te: I suggest you report a bug
[12:41] <AquaL1te> or when it shutsdown it already has unmounted /var i guess, nothing there anyway
[12:41] <AquaL1te> i did... not enough info they said
[12:42] <AquaL1te> i'll contact the devs, and otherwise i'll just switch my company to debian
[12:42] <arbba> Hi all! Just a quick question: Those who use laptop with ubuntu 12.10 or 12.04 what's the average battery discharge for you, for example when browsing web with wifi on and brightness half of maxium?
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> arbba: mine is about 10 mins but my battery is about 7 years old
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> arbba: :)
[12:44] <Cale> ActionParsnip: That's a reasonable point. I don't have an opinion of LXDE, but it does look more sensible than some of the other options.
[12:44]  * sobig trusts only apple's batteries
[12:44] <talpur_> hi comunity..how to use sysctl command to show hardware in system..plz see the paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/1355175/ and suggest the right commnad
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> talpur_: tried hwinfo ?
[12:46] <pybe> arbba, I get 2-3 hours of acutal use from my Lenovo X201 and the battery is nearly half the capacity from when new.
[12:46] <Cale> ActionParsnip: and I've noticed that the Enlightenment guys have started up again, so I might also try that (but it would probably involve quite a bit of work to *really* make things how I wanted them to be)
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> talpur_  there's dmidecode
[12:47] <raesi> my sound not work plz help
[12:47] <wastrel> lenovo :[
[12:47] <wastrel> pybe: time to buy a new laptop
[12:47] <lollko> raesi: me too :D
[12:47]  * sobig says no to levono
[12:47] <raesi> system ubuntu 11.10
[12:47] <raesi> :(
[12:47] <lollko> uhm
[12:47] <pybe> wastrel, love my thinkpads too much
[12:47] <lollko> i cant find driver for my sound card
[12:47] <wastrel> new thinkpad
[12:48] <raesi> lollko: your system 11.10 ?
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Cale: try a few, there are lots to try
[12:48] <talpur_> ActionParsnip: I am trying it is not installed meassage occurs, so I am installing it
[12:48] <raesi> ubuntu ?
[12:48] <lollko> raesi: i can try fresh instalation on 12.10
[12:48] <lollko> raesi: yop
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> talpur_: cool, it give a nice GUI
[12:48] <lollko> Ubuntu/oneiric
[12:48] <lollko> on hp probook 4515s
[12:48] <pybe> wastrel, this laptop has loads of life in it
[12:48] <talpur_> ActionParsnip: thanks
[12:48] <raesi> my system 11.10 already worked
[12:49] <raesi> now not work
[12:49] <raesi> because i install any software
[12:49] <raesi> :(
[12:49] <lollko> raesi: my webcam doenst working and sound
[12:49] <sobig> 12.10 sucks
[12:49] <lollko> *doesnt
[12:49] <lollko> sobig: why?
[12:49] <raesi> i need reset my setting sound card
[12:49] <sobig> 12.10 reports random interrupt errors to me
[12:50] <sobig> in a vm
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> lollko: tried it in cheese?
[12:50] <lollko> raesi: show lspci | grep audio
[12:50] <devjustforfun> hi people. i'm wrote in hosts file line like 127.0.0.1 site.ru.localhost - but when i try to go in there my proxy DNS server return to me: Name Error: The domain name does not exist. Whe my hosts file doesnt work
[12:50] <sobig> this didn't happen in any previous ubuntu
[12:51] <raesi> foad@foad:~$ show lspci | grep audio
[12:51] <raesi> The program 'show' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[12:51] <raesi> sudo apt-get install nmh
[12:51] <raesi> 0 upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1878 not upgraded.
[12:51] <raesi> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:51] <raesi> E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/
[12:52] <lollko> raesi: lspci | grep audio
[12:52] <FloodBot1> raesi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:52] <raesi> ok
[12:52] <lollko> and paste to query ;)
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> raesi: is software centre open?
[12:52] <raesi> foad@foad:~$ lspci | grep audio
[12:52] <raesi> foad@foad:~$
[12:52] <lollko> lspci | grep Audio
[12:53] <lollko> try again
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> raesi: is software centre open?
[12:53] <raesi> pm
[12:54] <raesi> no
[12:54] <talpur_> MonkeyDust: thanks its going good...What command should be used to see "SW Config"
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> raesi: are there updates installing?
[12:55] <devjustforfun> anybody
[12:55] <Cale> ActionParsnip: I have tried a few things already (Unity, Gnome 3, Cinnamon, Mate), and have considered dropping back to not having a desktop environment and just using a plain ol' WM on top of X -- though I tend to miss things like all my panel applets for monitoring memory/CPU/network/HDD usage, temperatures, world clocks, volume controls, etc. But yeah, the problem isn't insurmountable. If I really had to, I could write all that software myself. It's just -- s
[12:55] <Cale> houldn't an acceptably-working version of all this sort of thing exist? Gnome 3 has an entirely new plugin system, and I could almost get them to the point where they covered these use cases, though it was much clunkier and less flexible than the Gnome 2 panel applets were.
[12:56] <szymon_g> hi
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Cale: tried gnome-shell? It is the standard shell for 'normal' gnome3
[12:56] <Cale> ActionParsnip: right, yes, that's what I'm talking about
[12:56] <Cale> I guess I could also look for standalone versions of all this stuff which weren't too intrusive... or write them myself, if I wanted to sink a lot of time into it.
[12:56] <gener1c> i am having this software bug me about its unsuccessful install due to a dep although i gave up on it and i am trying to install something else
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> talpur_  try piping it to egrep and the words you want
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Cale: could just run openbox (no desktop) for supreme lightness
[12:57] <gener1c> how do i abort its install request
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> talpur_  like: dmidecode | egrep blah
[12:57] <sobig> is there a ubuntu flavour with gnome2 for 12.04?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: try:   sudo apt-get -f install
[12:57] <gener1c> i am having this software bug
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> sobig: not official ones
[12:57] <gener1c> ActionParsnip: it didnt help
[12:57] <sobig> that's too bad
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: can you pastebin the output of the command please
[12:57] <gener1c> yeah
[12:58] <lollko> sweet 11.04 :)))
[12:58] <Cale> ActionParsnip: Yeah. I used to use pwm (which is similar to ion, though not a tiling WM), but I've become somewhat addicted to having all these various things hanging around on the edges of my display :)
[12:58] <sobig> 11.04 is not a lts version afaik. it's end-of-life in one year
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: thanks, the output will help us diagnose once we get the link
[12:59] <Cale> and the main problem with dropping back to not having a desktop environment for me is that I have to give up some of this functionality in one way or another.
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> sobig: 11.04 is dead right now
[12:59] <sobig> lol
[12:59] <Cale> (also, with upgrading to newer DEs which seem to lack one or more of these features)
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> sobig: April 2011 + 18 months as it is a regular release, I'll let you do the maths
[13:00] <talpur_> MonkeyDust: plz see the pate http://paste.ubuntu.com/1355434/ and then suggest
[13:00] <wolfmitchell> damn
[13:00]  * sobig corrects the memory
[13:00] <wolfmitchell> my ubuntu box lags even on openbox...
[13:00] <wolfmitchell> with only xchat and a terminal open
[13:00] <wolfmitchell> .-.
[13:01] <szymon_g> anyone knows why i got a grub error (and its console) about missing uuid's, after i've installed ubuntu on /dev/sda (it was the only drive connected than), and i've added another harddrive (which become /dev/sda, the older one is now /dev/sdb)? in fstab /boot partition is mounted by uuid, not by device name so changing of disks shouldn't matter (apparently- it does)?
[13:01] <gener1c> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/f4J0brJQ
[13:01] <pottersky> whats up nerds :)
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> talpur_  type man dmidecode and scroll down to DMI types, you'll see
[13:02] <compdoc> szymon_g, you can manually edit fstab to use the uuid of the drive
[13:03] <szymon_g> compdoc, the installer should set it properly. uuids do not change over reboot, are they? if yes- what was their advantage over /dev/sd* device names?
[13:03] <szymon_g> it boots fine when there is only 1 drive connected
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> talpur_  like: sudo dmidecode -t 0
[13:03] <compdoc> szymon_g, you can also plug the drives in to the controller ports on the mainboard so that the drive that was sda becomes sda again
[13:03] <pottersky> gener1c: i've always used the .deb to install vbox... never tried through apt-get
[13:03] <szymon_g> so the uuid of /boot partition is good. it cannot boot if the system is installed on /dev/sdb device (which appears only after another disk is plugged in)
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> talpur_  i'm off now, good luck!!
[13:04] <compdoc> szymon_g, they dont change unless for format the partition of mess with the partition type
[13:04] <talpur_> MonkeyDust: bunddle of thanks
[13:04] <szymon_g> i did nothing of that
[13:05] <compdoc> *unless you
[13:05] <milestone> what is the difference between initctl and initctl.distrib
[13:05] <milestone> and why does initctl link to /bin/true
[13:05] <milestone> link==linked
[13:05] <szymon_g> i've just re-connected my old disks, sda and sdc (now). when i was installing ubuntu, it recognised the disk (ssd) as /dev/sda (because there was only 1 disk at the installation time). now this disk is /dev/sdb
[13:06] <compdoc> szymon_g, its easy to edit fstab to use uuid. Also easy to rearrange the drives on the controllers
[13:06] <talpur_> how i check my System CPU-name,,which command should I use
[13:06] <szymon_g> why should i modify the uuid? it works fine as long as there is only 1 drive connected
[13:06] <szymon_g> when i connect another disks, it doesn't boot
[13:06] <llutz_> talpur_: grep name /proc/cpuinfo
[13:07] <gordonjcp> szymon_g: that's why you use UUID
[13:07] <szymon_g> yes. and apparently they do not work fine on ubu, otherwise the amount of drives connected would be irrelevelant (or however it's spelled)
[13:08] <wolfmitchell> wtf.... gnome-classic lags less then openbox
[13:08] <talpur_> llutz_: like one has cpu-name = AMD Opteron 256...the command u say show the Model
[13:10] <compdoc> your computer doesnt care what you try to blame, or how you think it should work
[13:10] <gordonjcp> wolfmitchell: openbox isn't very good
[13:10] <navik> ActionParsnip: thanks
[13:10] <gordonjcp> szymon_g: that's the case for pretty much anything with a Linux kernel
[13:11] <gordonjcp> szymon_g: how the drives are connected and how they are identified to the system has an effect on the order they are detected in
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: reading (got called away)
[13:11] <gordonjcp> szymon_g: UUID solves this
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: your issue is with cinammon which isn't supported here
[13:11] <szymon_g> gordonjcp, so what's the point of using uuids than? their main point was to make it dependless from device names
[13:12] <gordonjcp> szymon_g: that's right
[13:12] <szymon_g> gordonjcp, not in that case. 1 disk= everythings fine. more disks- uuid /boot doesn't boot
[13:12] <gordonjcp> szymon_g: you stick the UUID in, and it makes no odds what order things come up in
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: you can satisfy the app with:  sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/insync-beta-gnome-cinnamon-common_0.9.25_i386.deb
[13:12]  * sobig adds sinamon in the coffee
[13:12] <gordonjcp> szymon_g: is grub configured to use uuid?
[13:12] <szymon_g> yes i know, but in this case it doesn't work. i'll have to fill a bugreport or something
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: but your 3rd party packager has bungled the packaging and duplicated the files in the package which overlap with the ones in another package
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: i suggest you report the issue
[13:13] <gordonjcp> szymon_g: yeah, sounds like you might have to
[13:13] <szymon_g> gordonjcp, UUID=b70777ab-c443-49ea-89c1-bf2662eed869 /boot           ext4    defaults        0       2
[13:13] <szymon_g> thats from /etc/fstab
[13:13] <milestone> can someone who is running 12.10 paste the output of sudo ls -la /sbin/initctl
[13:14] <gordonjcp> szymon_g: okay, and what about your grub config?
[13:14] <llutz_> szymon_g: grep sda /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: if you use 3rd party packages, there is no real quality control, unlike the official canonical ones
[13:15] <szymon_g> llutz, nothing is there. neither is sdb or sdc
[13:15] <szymon_g> gordonjcp, isn'g grub automatically configured on ubuntu to use that? it's fresh install, i haven't touch it
[13:15] <milestone> please?
[13:15] <szymon_g> milestone, -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 155560 Oct 12 20:30 /sbin/initctl
[13:15] <llutz_> szymon_g: are you sure there is no old grub in the MBR of that drive becomming /dev/sda when you replug the other drives?
[13:16] <milestone> szymon_g: so it is not a link
[13:16] <milestone> szymon_g: great thx
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> milestone: it can be if you want :)
[13:16] <szymon_g> llutz, in the sda? hm... i don't know
[13:16] <milestone> ActionParsnip: yes if you do not want your system to start anything ;)
[13:16] <szymon_g> how can i erase it without loosing content of drive?
[13:17] <szymon_g> i used to have a win8 on it
[13:17] <llutz_> szymon_g: wipe the first 440 Byte of the 1st sector of the disk
[13:17] <gener1c> ActionParsnip: i used the official conanical ones
[13:17] <gener1c> they didnt work
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: no, its a PPA. Canonical do not package Cinammon
[13:17] <gener1c> in regards to vbox
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: the issue isn't vbox
[13:18] <llutz_> szymon_g: other way round: do you change boot-order in the BIOS if you replug the drives?
[13:18] <talpur_> llutz_: Which commnad is used to know operating system detail,
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: read the pastebin, the issue is that a file in the cinammon package cannot overwrite one of the standing files
[13:18] <gener1c> ok then, how do i kick that request out of my install i am not trying to do anything that is even remotely close to insync ActionParsnip
[13:18] <llutz_> talpur_: detail as?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: so the vbox will not install til the packages are square. This is because you are using Cinammon which is unofficial
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: I suggest you report this tyo the Cinammon guys so they can sort their packaging out
[13:19] <szymon_g> llutz, i've had it by defaoult to boot it from my sdb drive. i'll check it in a sec, ok?. now i have to go- work :/
[13:19] <gener1c> cant i bypass that issue somehow? ActionParsnip
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: yes, I gave you the command earlier
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: it makes the file be overwritten regardles but if you remove either package it will break the packaging
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: you may also find updating gets upset too due to the overlapping file
[13:21] <talpur_> llutz_: detail..like OS name, OS file, OS comipler, OS sate etc
[13:21] <gener1c> ActionParsnip: dpkg: error: --install needs at least one package archive file argument
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: if you add 3rd party PPAs compiled and built by whoknows, then you can more than likely expect issues
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: you can satisfy the app with:  sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/insync-beta-gnome-cinnamon-common_0.9.25_i386.deb
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: copy and paste
[13:22] <gener1c> oh right
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: I copied and pasted that from earlier
[13:23] <gener1c> sorry
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: 'scroll up' is a wonderful feature of modern OSes
[13:23] <gener1c> i use irssi and pageup :P
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: same deal ;)
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> gener1c: me too :)
[13:24] <talpur_> ActionParsnip: which command is used to know the Operating system detail like OS name, OS file, OS comipler, OS sate etc
[13:24] <llutz_> talpur_: "lsb_release -a", "gcc --version" idk what "OS file/sate" are
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> llutz_: dude that was FAST
[13:24] <llutz_> ActionParsnip: 3mins, not really
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> llutz_: oh, asked before?
[13:25] <llutz_> :D
[13:25]  * ActionParsnip withdraws llutz_'s gold medal
[13:25] <talpur_> llutz_: thanks.....for example file: ext3 , state= runlevel3
[13:25] <jCuber> llutz_, talpur_, don't forget uname
[13:26] <llutz_> !runlevel | talpur_
[13:26] <llutz_> talpur_: sudo blkid
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> talpur_: sudo parted -l    will show the file system type
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> talpur_: are you using a desktop OS?
[13:26] <talpur_> llutz_: thanks
[13:27] <talpur_> ActionParsnip: thanks
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> talpur_: are you using a desktop OS?
[13:27] <talpur_> ActionParsnip: yes
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> talpur_: then the runlevel will always be 5
[13:27] <llutz_> talpur_: you see, there is no single command to gather all that information. you have to do some research
[13:27] <talpur_> llutz_: thanks i will do
[13:27] <dean__> Hi all I was wondering I have a cue file and a flac file I used to use a cue splitter on windows is there any gui progrsm like that for ubuntu?
[13:28] <llutz_> !info shntool | dean__ no gui but ...
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> dean__: https://bytebin.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/split-flac-by-cue-file-in-linux/
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> dean__: source: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=cue+and+flac+file+ubuntu
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> dean__: took me....60 seconds?
[13:29] <jCuber> dean__, Also, check out Flacon
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> dean__: did you even search a little?
[13:30] <llutz_> ActionParsnip: even if ubottus factoid is named "google", doesn't it cover duckduckgo too? ;)
[13:30] <dean__> ActionParsnip, I did but I came across cli commands but I aint too great with terminal commands still a bit of a noob medievil cue splitter used to do it all for me
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> llutz_: just absolutely astonished how I can find this stuff in seconds with the most remedial search term....
[13:30] <dean__> jCuber, Flacon is that a program?
[13:31] <jCuber> dean__, You can try running it under Wine or then download Flacon (http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=113388)
[13:31] <jCuber> dean__, Yup, with a GUI, too
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> dean__: yes, but if the commands are on the page for you to COPY then your ability in command line is negated
[13:32] <dean__> jCuber, You are a legend just what I am after
[13:32] <dean__> ActionParsnip, The web commands confuse me sometimes
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> dean__: the page also mentions flacon if you read down
[13:33] <llutz_> ActionParsnip: but true you are...
[13:33] <dean__> ActionParsnip, How come you are giving me a hard time? I have been a user of windows a long time and I am still getting to grips with Linux I can do simple commands like sudo apt-get
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> dean__: but the commands are there, you can copy and paste text, right?
[13:34] <dr_willis> reach for the gold ring!   take your linux-fu skill to the next level.
[13:34] <dean__> ActionParsnip, I can copy and paste but its when it starts asking you to start typing in commands for locations and etc is when I get stuck?
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> dean__: then put the files in the root of your home folder using the file browser (sure you can do that) then the first time you open the terminal the files are ready to be worked on
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> dean__: no changing of folder is needed :)
[13:36] <raesi> back
[13:36] <raesi> lollko: again help me
[13:37] <dean__> ActionParsnip, I have added the ppa for flacon now much simpler
[13:37] <dr_willis> saw a neat site that had recorded bash sessions for different tasks. made learning some of the basics of bash handy.
[13:38] <talpur_> jCuber: you metion uname ...where it use
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> dean__: no worries :)
[13:38] <dean__> ActionParsnip, Thanks though
[13:38] <raesi> i need reset my sound setting
[13:38] <raesi> plz help
[13:38] <dr_willis> raesi clarify the exact problem.
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> dean__: learning CLI is good, GUI tools are nice but they are restrictive compared to CLI :)
[13:38] <jCuber> talpur_, What exactly do you mean by "where it use"? in the terminal ofc
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> raesi: killall pulseadio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[13:39] <raesi> pulseadio: no process found
[13:39] <dean__> ActionParsnip, Will do when I start getting braver I would love to learn tar.gz one day lol
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> raesi: killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[13:39] <avatar_project> hello everyone
[13:39] <talpur_> jCuber: can you write the full commnad again....!runlevel | talpur gives the bash error
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> dean__: you won't use that much unless you fancy a play
[13:40] <raesi> rm: cannot remove `/home/foad/.pulse*': No such file or directory
[13:40] <dean__> ActionParsnip, Theres certain programs that aren't linux native that have a tar.gz to install there programs though
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> raesi: ok, wait 10 seconds, reboot and you should have default sound
[13:40] <dr_willis> dean__:  .tar.gz is just an archive. ;) learning to etract it is the easy part.
[13:40] <raesi> ok
[13:41] <dean__> dr_willis, Compiling it is another lol
[13:41] <dr_willis> dean__:  a few apps come precompiled in .tar.gz  you exctact then cd to the dir and run.. ;)
[13:41] <dr_willis> but those are rare
[13:41] <raesi> ActionParsnip: because sound not worked
[13:41] <talpur_> ActionParsnip: sorry to bother u,,,how we find the base_ptrsize
[13:41] <jCuber> talpur_, What command do you mean?
[13:42] <jCuber> !runlevel | talpur_
[13:42] <avatar_project> i have a problem. how can i install pci dial up modem ?
[13:42] <dean__> jCuber, Just waiting for flacon to install now is it user friendly?
[13:42] <dr_willis> dean__:  compiling somting from source that is allready in the repos (as an older version for example) can be a lot easier with the build-deps option to apt-get . ;)
[13:42] <avatar_project> i have modemdata.txt
[13:42] <llutz_> talpur_: do you expect us to do your homework?
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> raesi: that command defaults sound to vanilla settings
[13:42] <avatar_project> paste it here ?
[13:42] <raesi> dr_willis: my sound already working , after install software sound not worked
[13:43] <dean__> dr_willis, You make it sound so easy lol
[13:43] <jCuber> dean__, Don't know, I've never used it. It looked pretty easy in the screenshots tho
[13:43] <dr_willis> raesi what software?
[13:43] <talpur_> jCuber: yes
[13:43] <dean__> jCuber, Sorry thought you were a veteran with it lol
[13:43] <jCuber> dean__, Haha, just searched it up for ya
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> raesi: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[13:43] <raesi> dr_willis:sbagen and sbagui
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> talpur_: not even sure what that is, sorry
[13:43] <dr_willis> !info sbagen
[13:44] <dr_willis> !find sbagen
[13:44] <talpur_> llutz_: No i alreay write sorry to bother u.....I have from night I am trying to update config file for SPEC2006...these some comannad I couldn't find
[13:44] <dr_willis> raesi:  and those are/do what?
[13:44] <raesi> Your ALSA information is located at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=29f3e55dafb908877bb04b7edede3c3fd4c0f675
[13:45] <jCuber> talpur_ "sudo parted -"? ""lsb_release -a", "gcc --version
[13:45] <talpur_> llutz_:any way if you were irrited sorrfor that
[13:45] <thebiffman> Hello. Does anyone here have any tips for me? I have just built a HTPC/NAS computer with Ubuntu (xubuntu since I dont want Unity) installed. Its working pretty good with mdadm raid5 and such. But now I want to use it together with my TV and the picture worked right out of the box when it comes to video. But when I try to get the HDMI audio working I got stuck. I went into BIOS and chose digital
[13:45] <thebiffman> audio to HDMI instead of SPDIF. And in the Volume Control I can see HDMI output and use it. I have chosen it and when im playing music the bars are moving. But there are still no sound. Anyone know anything that I can check?
[13:45] <dean__> jCuber, I think I have done it
[13:45] <magesing> Hi everyone, how much SWAP space does ubuntu 12.10 need?
[13:45] <jCuber> talpur_, "lsb_release -a", "gcc --version? "sudo uname -a"?
[13:45] <talpur_> jCuber: thaks
[13:45] <avatar_project> here is modemdata.txt http://pastebin.com/DDi8AjB1
[13:45] <avatar_project> how can i run it ?
[13:45] <dr_willis> thebiffman:  try the pavcontrol tool perhaps
[13:46] <dr_willis> did i apell that right
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> raesi: let me check
[13:46] <raesi> ActionParsnip: ok
[13:46] <dr_willis> !info pavcontrol
[13:46] <dr_willis> !info pavucontrol
[13:46] <avatar_project> gnome ppp doesn`t work
[13:46] <dr_willis> pavUcontrol  ;)   thebiffman
[13:47] <dean__> jCuber, That was really helpful thank you.
[13:47] <avatar_project> probably it is win modem
[13:47] <philinux> magesing: see this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[13:47] <dr_willis> thebiffman:  i seem to have to use it once to get my system to use hdmi out audio. not sure why
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> raesi: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1355494/
[13:47] <jCuber> dean__, You're welcome :)
[13:47] <thebiffman> dr_willis: I think that the same tool im using.
[13:48] <dean__> Is anyone familiar with devede?
[13:48] <avatar_project> i read manual about modems but i don`t understand it ...
[13:48] <dr_willis> dean__:  it works.. ;) care to ask a real question about it.
[13:49] <dean__> dr_willis, Haha very funny I have used it in the past I like it however audio is slightly out of sync any ideas how to resolve that?
[13:49] <dr_willis> beginnere fail to click on that resize/recalculate button in devede i notice...
[13:49] <simplew> anyone here using kde?
[13:49] <dr_willis> dean__:  never really noticed that issue
[13:49] <thebiffman> dr_willis: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/699329/sound.png
[13:49] <avatar_project> Anybody has any idea ?
[13:50] <jCuber> simplew, Don't know about here, but #kubuntu definitely has KDE users
[13:50] <dean__> dr_willis, I like it but still have to use a windows based program to do my authoring and mp3tag as well wish I could find a linux native program to do everything then I would be complete : p
[13:50] <raesi> ActionParsnip: thanks
[13:51] <natiji> i'v tried many time to change my pseudo , but my change seem not to be saved . anybody have an idea ?
[13:51] <simplew> jCuber: but im asking here
[13:51] <jCuber> simplew, Then go ahead and !ask :)
[13:51] <jCuber> !ask
[13:51] <llutz_> dean__: mp3tag, you tried easytag or kid3?
[13:51] <llutz_> dean__: and yes, both have a GUI
[13:52] <dr_willis> dean__:  ive never had the issue. but i tend to just load up a dvd with cartoons on an endless loop for the grandkids
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> raesi: you may benefit from the later Alsa
[13:53] <Mmike> Hello. How can I have more than 4 virtual desktops, and all in one line (so I don't need to use ctrl-up/down to switch between them?)
[13:54] <dean__> llutz, I have tried a few I think but none easy to use like mp3tag I just like to change the tags and add album covers nothing too fancy?
[13:54] <dr_willis> Mmike:  i dont think unity supports them that way. gnome-shell does
[13:54] <dr_willis> unity enforces a X x X square layout.   x   3x3  2x2  and so on
[13:54] <Sukar> [n]
[13:54] <Mmike> heh :/
[13:54] <raesi> ActionParsnip:thanks
[13:54] <avatar_project> it is possible to use this modem in ubuntu 12.10 ?
[13:55] <thebiffman> Well this is unfortunate. That I have to sell my completely new NAS/HTPC just because Linux cannot handle HDMI. This sucks =(
[13:55] <Mmike> that's really annoying :/
[13:55] <Mmike> dr_willis, are you using gnome-shell?
[13:55] <jCuber> thebiffman, What are you talking about? I use HDMI all the time
[13:55] <dr_willis> thebiffman:  or it may just work if you find the right driver update or kernel or other tweak
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> raesi: its on the sound troubleshooting procedure page
[13:56] <dr_willis> Mmike:  been playing with gnome shell lately
[13:56] <Mmike> dr_willis, what are you thoughs on it?
[13:56] <jCuber> Mmike, dr_willis, I'm using it all the time
[13:56] <raesi> ok
[13:56] <Mmike> I just upgraded from 11.04 (had to) to 12.04 (fresh insstall) and I feel like someone tied my hands :/
[13:56] <natiji> hi , i'v tried many time to change my pseudo , but my change seem not to be saved . anybody have an idea ?
[13:56] <dr_willis> mmik  id rather it be more like android. ;)
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> Mmike: try XFCE, it smells a lot like Gnome2
[13:57] <dr_willis> unity in 12.10 i find easier to use
[13:57] <Mmike> ActionParsnip, have you tried using it? :)
[13:57] <Mmike> dr_willis, I work as a computer programmer and a system administrator - touchpad like interface is really not something I can find much use for :)
[13:57] <dr_willis> lubuntu is good for old school needs
[13:58] <Mmike> i'm missing all the whitstless and bells in lxde
[13:58] <jCuber> Mmike, You should try the interfaces and choose which one feels the best
[13:58] <Sukar> hi
[13:58] <dr_willis> i just run my apps and alt tab around...   de dosent maaaaaaatter muuch to me
[13:58] <Sukar> :D
[13:58] <jCuber> Sukar, Hey! Have a question?
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Mmike: sure
[13:59] <Sukar> no
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> Mmike: Ive tried a few desktops and window managers
[13:59] <Mmike> jCuber, yup, doing that now :/ remembering the old days when I was switching from fvwm to wmaker to enlightenment to gnome
[13:59] <Sukar> i wanna chating with us
[13:59] <Sukar> :D
[13:59] <Mmike> never actually used KDE
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> Mmike: LXDE is pretty sweet
[13:59] <thebiffman> Problem is that according to the system the HDMI is working and is in use. But I have no luck using google since Im not certain what to google after. Im using the new AMD FM2-socket A-series APU with a ASUS motherboard that has the HDMI integrated. I have chosen HDMI for digital audio in bios. Im out of ideas. Hence why I came here. May be some general things I can check....
[13:59] <jCuber> !offtopic | Sukar
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> Mmike: my first desktop was KDE in Mandrake 7
[13:59] <jCuber> =)
[14:00] <dr_willis> thebiffman:  'brand new' hardware is often the most problematic. it may take a few weeks for the kernel and drivers to get fixed for stuff
[14:00] <mitch|mobile> My first desktop was an X server with nothing running .-.
[14:00] <Mmike> ActionParsnip, I miss a lot of plugins there - for instance, cpu/mem/io/net graphs, then concrete upload/download rates, then giplet (my current outbound IP), then temperatre sensors (ok, I can live without those), then I hate that my email and pidgin messages are going all to the same  notification bin :/
[14:00] <jCuber> thebiffman, Not sure if this helps you, but I guess it's worth a shot: http://maketecheasier.com/setup-hdmi-digital-playback-in-linux/2011/01/05
[14:00] <Mmike> ok, sorry, this was ranting :/
[14:00] <cnf> cliff_: i'm sure there are people here that use irssi
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> Mmike: why do you want the CPU and RAM loads etc?
[14:01] <dr_willis> irssi has 10000s of guides out for it also
[14:01] <dr_willis> i prefer weechat to irssi these days
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> pidgin all the way
[14:02] <cnf> i can't find any linux irc client that i like ^^;
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> irssi now as I'm at work ssh'd home
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> cnf: what have you tried?
[14:02] <jCuber> cnf, Tried xchat?
[14:02] <dr_willis> weechat+znc ;)
[14:02] <cnf> jCuber: on xchat, man is it ugly!
[14:03] <cnf> yuck
[14:03] <jCuber> cnf, xchat-gnome?
[14:03] <dr_willis> ugly? never noticed
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> cnf: what irc clients have you tried?
[14:03] <dr_willis> big text area.. and tabs.. what more do you need..
[14:03] <mitch|mobile> I like xchat... And it's lua scripting plugin
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> <3 irssi
[14:03] <Mmike> ActionParsnip, i just want to know what my computer is using. It's very very informative when doing various tests. Some of my apps (that I make) sometimes start eating ram, and I can see that vividly there.
[14:03] <mitch|mobile> Dr_willes, userlist.
[14:04] <cnf> ActionParsnip: xchat, irssi, pidgin, quassel
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> Mmike: ahh if you are a dev then its handy :)
[14:04] <cnf> uhm, what was the other kirc thing
[14:04] <mitch|mobile> Cnf, kvirc?
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> !info lostirc
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> !info loqui
[14:04] <dr_willis> mitch|mobile: i turn that  off. i find it useless
[14:04] <chucktewks> morning folks - is there a good SVN client for Ubuntu out there?
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> !info konversation
[14:05] <Mmike> ActionParsnip, yup :/ feels like unity is designed for people like my grandma :/ I think even 4 virtual desktops is too much for her
[14:05] <mitch|mobile> Well, there is telnet...
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> Mmike: I only use one myself
[14:05] <dr_willis> not tried loqui
[14:05] <thebiffman> jCuber: Im checking out the link.. First step I have done.
[14:06] <cnf> brb, going out for a minute
[14:06] <mitch|mobile> Gotta go, school...
[14:07] <jCuber> Gotta go; Noodles, ice-cream and orange juice
[14:07] <OffTopic> OffTopic!
[14:07] <OffTopic> OffTopic to the max!
[14:08] <jCuber> !offtopic
[14:08] <xok> hello all...
[14:09] <jCuber> Hello, xok
[14:11] <ToTheMax> Clones
[14:11] <ToTheMax> <<
[14:14] <vooze> Which meta-packages do I need to remove in order to compleatly remove unity from ubuntu 12.10? :)
[14:14] <cnf> right, back
[14:14] <cnf> ActionParsnip: gonna have a look at the ones you suggested that i have not yet tried
[14:15] <quesada_> is there any way to get 'inertia scrolling' (like we have for touchpads) on a mouse wheel?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> cnf: source: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[14:15] <avatar_project> who know how install dial up modem in ubuntu ?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> !dialup
[14:17] <avatar_project> ActionParsnip: i read it
[14:17] <chucktewks> is there an equivalent to tortoiseSVN in linux
[14:17] <avatar_project> ActionParship: i have also modemdata.txt
[14:17] <mens> I can't copy files from windows 7 to ubuntu 10.04. In ubuntu 10.04 I gave full access via Samba. Anyone can HELP me please?
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> mens: over the network?
[14:18] <cnf> ActionParsnip: thnx
 YES
[14:18] <WeThePeople> mens, what errors are you getting
 just a moment
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> mens: if you run:  smbtree on the Ubuntu system, do you see shares?
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> mens: can you ping the Ubuntu system from Windows?
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> mens: do you have a firewall configured in Ubuntu>
[14:20] <thebiffman> jCuber: No luck with the link either. Its so frustrating. It seems to be working. Device names and everything. But no sound.
[14:21] <quesada_> maybe xbindkeys would help
[14:22] <solofight> people - i want to install linux in my machine which already has windows. the partition table is as follows. /dev/sda1 ntfs 104MB, Unusable 19222MB, /dev/sda2 ntfs 85899MB(this is where windows is installed), /dev/sda3 ntfs 10734MB, /dev/sda5 ntfs 10734MB
[14:22] <solofight> am trying to install in the space where it says unusable - why it says so ?
[14:22] <jCuber> vooze, !pastebinit apt-get --yes purge unity unity-2d unity-2d-places unity-2d-panel unity-2d-spread
[14:22] <jCuber> apt-get --yes purge unity-asset-pool unity-services unity-lens-* unity-scope-*
[14:22] <jCuber> apt-get --yes purge liboverlay-scrollbar*
[14:22] <jCuber> apt-get --yes purge appmenu-gtk appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-qt
[14:22] <jCuber> apt-get --yes purge firefox-globalmenu thunderbird-globalmenu
[14:22] <jCuber> apt-get --yes purge unity-2d-common unity-common
[14:22] <FloodBot1> jCuber: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:23] <jCuber> Wow, sorry about that
 Now appear other problem, windows 7: The remote device or resource won't accept the connection
[14:24] <dr_willis> mens:  i often find it easier to use ssh and winscp then fight with windows and shareing
 I try teamviewer but speed of transfer is very low
[14:24] <vooze> jCuber: thanks, but I guess I figured it out.. I just used synaptic to remove all unity (and lightdm) packages that did not conclict with GNOME ;) but thanks anyway
[14:25] <WeThePeople> mens, first, is windows and ubuntu on the same computer??
[14:25] <solofight> people - i want to install linux in my machine which already has windows. the partition table is as follows. /dev/sda1 ntfs 104MB, Unusable 19222MB, /dev/sda2 ntfs 85899MB(this is where windows is installed), /dev/sda3 ntfs 10734MB, /dev/sda5 ntfs 10734MB
[14:25] <solofight> am trying to install in the space where it says unusable - why it says so ?
[14:25] <jCuber> vooze, Haha, alright.
 Nope, different computer!
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> solofight: are you using Win7?
[14:25] <WeThePeople> just makin sure :)
[14:25] <mens> I'm trying connect computer via wireless
I'm trying connect computer via wireless
[14:26] <vooze> Btw. if anyone is on the lookout for a good linux-mouse.. I just got Logitech MX Performance.. its really really nice, and works out of the box
[14:26] <cnf> hmz
*computers
[14:26] <jCuber> vooze, All of my mouses have worked out of the box :) Just matter of preference.
[14:27] <vooze> jCuber: well yestoday I bought the steelseries sensei.. terrible...
[14:27] <vooze> men pressing some of the buttons it would freeze for 18 secs
[14:27] <vooze> Really a windows-only product ;)
[14:28] <cnf> hmz, konversation is just as bad as xchat ^^;
[14:28] <jCuber> vooze, What did you expect from "the most customizable gaming mouse" :D
[14:28] <vooze> haha dunno.. :D
[14:28] <jCuber> cnf, You changed the colors? Fonts? You can customize these programs you know :D
[14:28] <cnf> yes, yes i did
[14:29] <cnf> first thing i do, in every client
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> mens: are you asked for authentication when you connect to the share?
[14:29] <vooze> jCuber: I had my old mouse for 5 years or somthing, so I did not even think about the possible errors
[14:29] <xok> the network icon on my indicator applet (sys tray?) is missing, I can't connect (nor choose) the wifi network...can anyone help?..
[14:29] <xok> I have ubuntu 10.04...
[14:29] <jCuber> vooze, PC/2 or USB?
[14:30] <jCuber> *ps
[14:30] <vooze> jCuber: USB ofcouse ;)
[14:30] <cnf> jCuber: Source Code Pro, all the way :P
[14:31] <xok> can anyone help?...
[14:32] <cnf> jCuber: and black bg, for anything that is fixed width text
 yes
[14:32] <vooze> xok: Well I had the same problem one time, back then.. but its soooo long ago, cant really remember what I did to fix it.
[14:32] <jCuber> xok, ALT+F2 and run "network-indicator"?
[14:33] <rham> if I go to ubuntu.com and download a disk image, the image is 753MB
[14:33] <jCuber> xok, I mean indicator-network
[14:33] <dr_willis> or was it nm-applet
[14:33] <jCuber> dr_willis, Porbably  is :P
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> mens: then run:  sudo smbpasswd -a $USER         you will need to authenticate as sudo, then set a password. You can then authenticate as your username using the password
[14:33] <rham> is the image supposed to be burned to a CD, or a DVD?
[14:33] <vooze> rham: DVD or USB
[14:33] <dr_willis> rham: 12.10 is dvd
[14:34] <rham> :-/
[14:34] <dr_willis> 12.10 lubuntu can fit on cd
[14:34] <rham> why make a DVD image that's 753MB?
[14:34] <rham> that's absurd
[14:34] <dr_willis> as can the server iso
[14:34] <vooze> or just download the alternative CD and download the apps you need?
[14:34] <Pici> There is no alternate CD for 12.10
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> rham: use USB :)
[14:35] <vooze> ah, sorry ;)
[14:35] <rham> if you're going to make the image so big it can only fit on a DVD, why not fill it with useful stuff?
[14:35] <dr_willis> absurd was sticking to cd limits for so long
[14:35] <rham> why not make it 3.5GB?
[14:35] <vooze> rham: because thats for linux mint ;) haha, no reason to fill it with stuff you might not need
[14:35] <dr_willis> they exersized self controll
[14:35] <xok> dr_willis: thank you very much, I just rebooted the system and it appeared but yes, the applet was named nm-applet...
 I try to access ubuntu via local IP adress (192.168.1.101). And windows 7 write me: windows cannot access 192.....
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: the linuxtycon game has a complaint by users that the distro doesn't fit on a CD, even in the year 3000
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> mens: can you ping the IP
 I change my SMB PASS, that do not solve my issue
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> mens: can you ping the IP
[14:37] <rham> vooze: there is a reason: not to waste four fifths of a CD
[14:37] <rham> s/CD/DVD/
 yes, ping go!
[14:37] <dr_willis> rham: bigger reason.. save server load...
[14:38] <dr_willis> and bandwith of torrents
[14:38] <dr_willis> and the os final install size
[14:39] <jCuber> rham, You're starting to think like Microsoft
 after I start windows network diagnostics: in small windows write: Problems found [...] The remote device or resource won't accept connection   -  DETECTED
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> !tab| mens
[14:40] <dr_willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/its-official-the-ubuntu-livecd-is-dead
[14:40] <abdoreza> salam
[14:42] <rham> jCuber: insult me eh?
[14:42] <mens> !tab
[14:42]  * rham slaps jCuber across the face with the back of his hand
[14:42] <jCuber> rham, How was I "insulting" you?
[14:44] <cacicioc> chyeah
[14:44] <andrea_> anyone uses intel NIC 39Y6128 with ubuntu?
[14:44] <rham> < jCuber> rham, You're starting to think like Microsoft
[14:44] <jCuber> rham, Then I'm sorry if that insulted you.
[14:45] <rham> jCuber: I'm only joking :-)
[14:45] <warhead> :-)
[14:46] <warhead> rham insulting on "You're starting to think like Microsoft" hahah relly funy...go go go more :-)
[14:46] <jCuber> !offtopic :P
[14:47] <jCuber> Man I gotta check out these factoids before doing that
[14:47] <somsip> jCuber: maybe !ot
[14:48] <pratz> Hello guys
[14:48] <jCuber> Hi, pratz
[14:48] <pratz> I am using ubuntu 12.04 with classic gnome desktop
[14:48] <jCuber> Yes?
[14:48] <pratz> can i use classic gnome with HUD ?
[14:49] <jCuber> pratz, What do you mean with "HUD"?
[14:49] <pratz> jCuber: heads up display in 12.04
[14:50] <jCuber> pratz, Heads up display? They finished the hologram technology already? I think you're talking User Interface (UI) :)
[14:50] <ses1984> i'm installing 12.04 on a pretty old system with an nvidia 6150. the live cd env works ok. after installing unity looked very glitchy. i enabled the 3rd party drivers, which didn't fix the problem,
[14:50] <pratz> jCuber: yes the UI
[14:50] <pratz> jCuber: I watched this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIQXKrH46wI
[14:51] <ses1984> i tried to reboot and i keep getting "failed to set mode on crtc". i've tried to cp the xorg.conf.failsave to xorg.conf and that didn't work. i also tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg,
[14:51] <ses1984> and that results in another "failed to set mode on crtc" message to get printed to kernel log
[14:51] <pratz> jCuber: here they showed gnome classic with Unity 2D
[14:52] <jCuber> pratz, You should be able to get the Unity UI by doing "sudo apt-get install unity" or Installing Unity from the software center, then logging out and then selecting Unity
[14:53] <pratz> jCuber: I have the unity UI already, but logging in to gnome classic and using unity 2D is showing in that video
[14:53] <jCuber> pratz, So you want Gnome Classic?
[14:53] <pratz> jCuber: I use gnome classic, but want to use unity 2D
[14:54] <jCuber> pratz, Then you log out, select Unity 2D from there and log back in
[14:54] <pratz> jCuber: please see the video, "Unity 2D meets gnome classic"
[14:54] <jCuber> pratz, Haven't installed Flash, can't.
[14:55] <jCuber> pratz, So you want the Unity launcher but want to use Gnome Classic?
[14:56] <pratz> jCuber: that's it
[14:56] <jCuber> "sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback unity-2d-launcher" then open console and run "unity-2d-shell"
[14:59] <zykotick9> ls
[15:00] <pratz> jCuber: that's cool
[15:00] <jCuber> pratz, Working?
[15:00] <pratz> jCuber: yes
[15:00] <pratz> jCuber: how can i reduce the size of unity launcher icon ?
[15:01] <jCuber> pratz, I don't use Unity, but try Right-clicking it and see if there's "preferences" or "properties"
[15:01] <El_Fantasma> ping me!
[15:03] <jCuber> pratz, Actually, 1. Press "ALT+F2", then write "ccsm" in the Run dialog. 2. Find the "Ubuntu Unity Plugin" entry 3. Go to the "Experimental" tab and there should be a "Launcher icon size"
[15:04] <RobOakes> Is there a way to define a network specific hosts file? For example, I use dyndns to access my home server when away from home. I'd like to use the same domain entry to access when at home.
[15:04] <k1l_> jCuber: if you want to customize unity you should try unsettings. omgubuntu just made a post about it
[15:04] <pratz> jCuber: no application ccsm
[15:05] <jCuber> k1l_, Ah, Okay. I don't follow omgubuntu :P
[15:05] <echinos> would anyone recommend a good tray or other small system monitor for ubuntu?
[15:05] <Sukar> #@Romance
[15:05] <k1l_> pratz: ok, see what i just said (thought jCuber got the question)
[15:06] <renan_saddam> Hi, I have a preseed script to install new machines and it works. But now I am trying to ship some firewall configurations to it, using iptables on late_command. However it says the iptables modules is not loaded, how could I enable the iptables modules on my preseed late_command?
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> pratz  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/11/unsettings-a-comprehensive-tweaking-tool-for-unity
[15:08] <echinos> Sukar: was that to me?
[15:08] <jCuber> RobOakes, Why not use a DNS server?
[15:09] <RobOakes> Hi jCuber, that's probably the best option.
[15:09] <RobOakes> I've never really used bind, and thought it seemed like a lot of hassle for a little thing.
[15:09] <RobOakes> But it's really the best thing.
[15:10] <RobOakes> (Based upon the sources I've been able to find. I was hoping someone else might have an easier idea.)
[15:11] <jCuber> RobOakes, so you want your hosts file to change by network connection?
[15:12] <RobOakes> jCuber: Yes. When I'm on my home network, I'd like to have an entry point point to the internal address for my server: 192.168.0.x
[15:12] <RobOakes> When outside of the house, I'd like for it to get the IP from the dyndns server.
[15:13] <pratz> k1l_: MonkeyDust it is not applying changes, should i restart the machine ?
[15:13] <jCuber> RobOakes, This might help you: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1355648/
[15:13] <zykotick9> RobOakes: if your server has a static IP, you could just use the /etc/hosts file on the client system
[15:13] <k1l_> pratz: "Some changes require log out to take effect"
[15:14] <RobOakes> jCuber: That's exactly what I was hoping to get, thanks.
[15:14] <RobOakes> zykotick9: Unfortunately, it doesn't have a static IP :(
[15:14] <pratz> k1l_: like launcher icon size ?
[15:14] <jCuber> RobOakes, You're welcome. Found it from here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1555752 =)
[15:14] <zykotick9> RobOakes: the local address isn't static?  why not?
[15:14] <RobOakes> zykotick9: Sorry, I misunderstood. The local address is static.
[15:15] <k1l_> pratz: i didnt try that. did you click on the accept button in the menue-row in unsettings?
[15:15] <RobOakes> I don't have a static address for my home network.
[15:15] <zykotick9> RobOakes: i figured.  so on your local network, you could use hosts file to "fake" the network address DNS name...
[15:15] <pratz> k1l_: yes the "apply" button
[15:15] <edve> anyone here knows about FreePBX ?
[15:16] <echinos> I know about it, but I haven't played with it :(
[15:16] <multi_io> looks like nvidia-current isn't installable on 12.10? "unable to find kernel source". installing the linux-source package doesn't change that.
[15:16] <echinos> One thing on my want-to-play-with list
[15:17] <jCuber> edve, I don't, at least. You can try #freepbx if nobody here answers you
[15:18] <multi_io> "dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current" reproduces the problem.
[15:18] <jCuber> multi_io, Which GPU do you have?
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> multi_io: do you have the kernel headers installed?
[15:19] <multi_io> jCuber: Quadro FX 5800
[15:19] <multi_io> ActionParsnip: yes. I thought that would suffice.
[15:19] <multi_io> in 12.04 it did.
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> multi_io: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[15:21] <bluegrass> How do I set my installed KDE as the default?
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> bluegrass  lightdm remembers your last choice
[15:22] <bluegrass> oh ok thanks md
[15:24] <CodeRat> Chawwk & Balls! Do it in C if you broke it with your trash java.
[15:26] <lkthomas> hey guys, what should I do if application does not support socks4 but I want to run it over tor ?
[15:26] <multi_io> ActionParsnip: is installed
[15:27] <CodeRat> lkthomas you mean you wanna pump it into 9050? Use Torsocks
[15:27] <lkthomas> CodeRat:  does it included on ppa repo ?
[15:28] <lkthomas> CodeRat: nevermind, found it
[15:28] <CodeRat> lkthomas not sure. I am using Debian wheezy.
[15:29] <Pici> !info torsocks | CodeRat
[15:29] <CodeRat> lkthomas you would just do a cmd like "torsocks xchat" or whatever you want to pump into the pipe
[15:29] <Pici> lkthomas: er, that was for you ^
[15:29] <MotherMGA> about a week ago, I noticed that my fonts on applications in ubuntu become blurry - its somewhat random. It affects every application. When I highlight the text, it will re-rasterize and become clear again, but after a few seconds, it will go blurry again.  Does anyone know about this problem? My google searching was unsuccessful.
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> MotherMGA: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[15:30] <CodeRat> ubottu yeah thats really important. Most of the safe programs are listed on their page.
[15:30] <CodeRat> lol
[15:30] <CodeRat> damn bot
[15:30] <MotherMGA> precise
[15:30] <lkthomas> thanks
[15:30] <Walther> Installing nvidia drivers causes compiz not to load on login. Reproducible with nvidia-current and nvidia-experimental-310, on Ubuntu 12.10
[15:30] <Walther> Any ideas how to fix?
[15:30] <MotherMGA> I believe it's related to the active blurring on the unity menu
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> MotherMGA: have you tried ubuntu-tweak to set the font hinting higher?
[15:31] <MotherMGA> Not yet. I haven't had this problem until a week ago.
[15:32] <CodeRat> lkthomas here is a list of the safe things to drop into the tor pipe http://code.google.com/p/torsocks/
[15:32] <alexxxxxxa> Hello!
[15:33] <MotherMGA> I don't see an ubuntu-tweak in the apt-get repositories
[15:33] <alexxxxxxa> Is it possible to install Ubuntu over already existing Ubuntu (to start from the ground, from the Zero) and to save all the files in ~/ Folder (like music, pictures and documents)?
[15:34] <Walther> In /var/lo/Xorg.0.log there is a line: (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[15:34] <CodeRat> alexxxxxxa ummm yeah. dist-upgrade ?
[15:34] <CodeRat> alexxxxxxa you just want to clean your computer of junk or you want to upgrade?
[15:35] <alexxxxxxa> not dist-upgrade. I'd like to change from Xubuntu 12.04 to Ubuntu 12.10 (something doesn't work on my PC, I screwed up something. so want to install from zero)
[15:35] <CodeRat> alexxxxxxa yeah wait I think I have the "cmd" to do that.
[15:36] <GINOGINO> ciao
[15:36] <GINOGINO> !list
[15:36] <CodeRat> alexxxxxxa http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu
[15:37] <KacoLinux> hello there
[15:37] <MotherMGA> ActionParsnip: I think its related to the active blur setting in the unity tweaks for dash blur. I used to be able to set it to no blur or static blur and it take effect. now that setting does nothing.
[15:37] <Walther> Installing Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu, Xorg log shows (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found). Any ideas on how to fix?
[15:37] <CodeRat> alexxxxxxa or you could always follow my youtube tutorial =) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WnaZL3ARN0
[15:38] <Walther> I'm not getting a compositing window manager (unity/compiz) on login
[15:39] <lkthomas> CodeRat: hey, I got tons of symbol not found on libtorsocks, any idea why ?
[15:39] <alexxxxxxa> CodeRat: Wow, Debian looks fantastic there :)
[15:39] <CodeRat> lkthomas did you do it like usewithtor xxxx ?
[15:40] <lkthomas> CodeRat: yes, same result
[15:40] <lkthomas> I think I hit a bug
[15:41] <CodeRat> alexxxxxxa thx. I am using Debian as you see. Here is some old Ubuntu stuff www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0IDV6r-bCI&feature=plcp .I had to leave Ubuntu when they started with Unity since I am always in a terminal.
[15:43] <lkthomas> CodeRat: what's alternative with tor ? torsocks seems have bugs
[15:43] <guruguy> lo all; wonder if any1 eelse thinks ubunut website SUCKS.... no md5's; can't find info on livecd/dvd.... doesn't seem to be ANYTHING easy about it unless you have no questions!!
[15:43] <FZTM> wekekekekekeke
[15:44] <FZTM> rame...rameeeee
[15:45] <Untopped> join #android-dev
[15:46] <guruguy> ok - does any1 know where md5's and live-boot downloads are on ubuntu website ?
[15:46] <RyanL> Hey, I am looking to install Lubuntu on this old computer, but have not been successful; the installer hangs on the Live distro after choosing my language. Oddly enough, the same exact thing happens with Ubuntu 12.10
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> RyanL: what video chip do you use?
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> !md5 > RyanL
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> !md5 > guruguy
[15:47] <guruguy> i just installed 12.10 on a dell t610, and it hangs on disk partitioning.... obviously they fixed that problem ... ;o)
[15:47] <Erik_D> guruguy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[15:47] <RyanL> My video chip is an ATI, unsure of which.
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> RyanL: try the boot option: nomodeset
[15:48] <RyanL> I can run Live Lubuntu and Ubuntu 12.10 as well as a full install of Mint Linux.
[15:49] <Erik_D> !md5 > Erik_D
[15:49]  * Erik_D was wondering what the message was
[15:50] <Erik_D> lol the same thing a 10 second google turned up
[15:50] <guruguy> tx very much for your reply botty bot - but i know how to MAKE md5 - i need SOURCE md5's from ubuntu!!!
[15:50] <Erik_D> check the site we both sent you
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> hashes | guruguy
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> guruguy: the MD5 how to ALSO contains a link to the hashes
[15:50] <Erik_D> guruguy: did you even click the links? they're all listed >.<
[15:50] <Hunny> hi
[15:51] <guruguy> i did click link; but obviously i ddin't read it once i saw it was a how to make md5... i will reread... tx and sorry
[15:51] <Erik_D> is there a ! for telling people to google stuff?
[15:52] <dr_willis> !googlr
[15:52] <RyanL> If I downloaded the .iso from the Ubuntu website, is it safe to assume I can skip the md5sumcheck?
[15:52] <dr_willis> !google
[15:52] <dr_willis> RyanL:  check it anyway
[15:52] <bazhang> Erik_D, yeah. and never tell people to "google it"
[15:52] <Erik_D> oh, ouch.
[15:52] <Erik_D> good to know, thanks.
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> RyanL: no, the data can still be damaged in transit
[15:53] <Walther> Installing nvidia-current or nvidia-experimental-310 causes compiz not to load. Any ideas on how to fix?
[15:53] <RyanL> Is there a chance that I needed to get the 32-bit version? I can run the 64 live though :/
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> RyanL: the source is absolutely irrelevant. If it passes MD5 test then the data is complete and correct
[15:53] <RyanL> thanks action
[15:54] <dr_willis> Erik_D:  i tend to reccomend   askubuntu.com first anyway ;)
[15:55] <Erik_D> dr_willis: that's new? I've been out of ubuntu for a while, I tend to prefer openSUSE
[15:55]  * Erik_D clicks around
[15:56] <TheNumb> Quick question guys, is anybody else experiencing problems with fglrx on ubuntu 12.10?
[15:56] <dr_willis> Erik_D:  1.10 has some neat features in unity. and ubuntu on the nexus 7 is being alpha tested
[15:56] <dr_willis> my 2 key is flakey.. ;)
[15:56] <dr_willis> TheNumb:  it can depend on your exact chipset a great deal
[15:56]  * MonkeyDust likes 'quick questions', as they are always the most complicated to answer
[15:57] <TheNumb> dr_willis: it's a fairly new one... radeon hd 7730M
[15:57] <Walther> [    45.194] (EE) No devices detected.
[15:57] <dr_willis> i like playing 0 questions to get down to the real question. ;)
[15:57]  * dr_willis hits his 2 key harder
[15:58] <guruguy> doing a reinstall of 12.10 on dell t610 w/ 4 sata's in raid 10 w/ mdadm ONLY thing i need is re-install grub; but can't b/c install insists on partition-disks - which hangs @ 50%. i've already tried manually install grub / chroot / grub-* - all fail.
[15:58] <Erik_D> TheNumb: right off the bat, ati chips tend to work way crappier on linux
[15:58] <TheNumb> Erik_D: I know that ;c
[15:59] <Erik_D> TheNumb: unfortunately, I don't really know much beyond that, sorry :(
[15:59] <TheNumb> I was hoping I could disable the amd gpu and only use intel.
[15:59] <Erik_D> TheNumb: That's probably through BIOS
[15:59] <TheNumb> Erik_D: no option to do that.
[15:59] <dr_willis> guruguy:  tried a live cd and that  boot-repair tool yet? i dont know how well it handles raid
[15:59] <TheNumb> This laptop does not have a hardware mux.
[16:00] <dr_willis> dual gpu systems = the latest 'top 10' problrm these days
[16:00] <TheNumb> Well, most systems are dual gpu these days, lol :P
[16:01] <guruguy> have not tried live cd - can't locatee it for download... am now DL'g entire install dvd but that's 2 hrs away
[16:01] <Walther> Is there *any* way to fix this issue with nvidia then?
[16:01] <Walther> [    47.637] (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[16:02] <dr_willis> Walther:  you on some dual gpu setup also?
[16:02] <zykotick9> Walther: are you sure you model is supported by current/experimental?
[16:02] <Walther> Yes, I'm having problems on my Zenbook UX32VD
[16:03] <Walther> Intel HD4000 - Nvidia 620M
[16:03] <dr_willis> you have installed that bumblebee tool?
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> Walther  that error returns a lot of hits on duckduckgo, but no solution, i guess you're out of luck
[16:04] <Walther> dr_willis: with bumblebee installed, i'm not sure if it uses nvidia at all
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> Walther: hybrid GPU i all sorts of pain in Linux
[16:04] <Walther> I've heard
[16:05] <Walther> somehow I don't understand how it can be that big of an issue
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> Walther: nvidia refuse to support it outside of windows
[16:05] <dr_willis> i canr understand why the 3d card cant handle d as wekk... ;)
[16:05] <keith_> My laptop is reporting a very low battery, but it is almost at full charge. The time to empty seems right, but the charge percentage reported is very low, apparently because it is confused about what the max charge is. Does anyone know how to resolve this issue?
[16:05] <SixtyFol1> is there a CLI ONLY version of ubuntu to install and start with?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> !Mini  | SixtyFol1
[16:06] <dr_willis> nvidia has made mention of supporting optimus on linux. but ive not seen much news on that lately
[16:06] <zykotick9> !mini | SixtyFol1 just don't select anything
[16:06] <SixtyFol1> zykotick9: thank you
[16:06] <Walther> ActionParsnip: Well, i mean, the "real" issue, not only the attitude problem
[16:07] <SixtyFol1> ActionParsnip: thank you too
[16:07] <Walther> as in, intel "gpu" is inside the CPU, and nvidia is its own chip
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> Walther: they did join the linux foundation a bit ago so it may change
[16:07] <Walther> so it should be trivial to change between those
[16:07] <SixtyFol1> bbl
[16:07] <Walther> ActionParsnip: Yes, and currently all the work done by Valve
[16:07] <dr_willis> im not sure anything with computers these days is trivial..
[16:07] <Walther> but anyway, i'm talking about what is the issue behind them not working
[16:08] <dr_willis> bumblebee just turns on one or the other dosent it? under windows it can change on the fly? or am i confused. again..
[16:09] <alansaul_> Hey guys, is there anyway to ignore imported files tests? i.e. I import numpy but don't want numpys tests contributing to my coverage?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> just best to avoid it all together, its a mess
[16:11] <alansaul_> nosetests is?
[16:11] <alansaul_> Sorry i didn't even say I was using nosetests...
[16:12] <guruguy> omg - what's cmd to turn off entry/quit msgs ?
[16:12] <bazhang> guruguy, which client
[16:12] <guruguy> eb
[16:12] <guruguy> (web)
[16:12] <dr_willis> in the settings menu
[16:12] <bazhang> guruguy, top left button?
[16:12] <keith_> My laptop is reporting a very low battery, but it is almost at full charge. The time to empty seems right, but the charge percentage reported is very low, apparently because it is confused about what the max charge is. Does anyone know how to resolve this issue? It also appears to be reporting 2 batteries
[16:12] <guruguy> hmm lk'd there; i will again
[16:13] <dr_willis> i recall the freenode web client having a settings/checkbox to hide part/joins
[16:13] <guruguy> yep - TYVM - thought 'options' was header, not selection item ! :)
[16:15] <dr_willis> these mondern design  interfaces. ;) back in my day menu items had >>> or ... when they led to other dialogs..   ....
[16:15]  * dr_willis waves his cane..
[16:15] <doomlord> heh TUI
[16:15] <dr_willis> when 'clean look' overrides 'useability' and 'obviousness'
[16:15] <guruguy> lol - not sure i like web client - tho convienient... rec's on good irc client app ?
[16:16] <ajeffco> is there a way to check if a service is set to autostart without chkconfig?
[16:16] <doomlord> fisher-price UI
[16:16] <dr_willis> guruguy:  i tend to use weechat or xchat
[16:16] <gustav__> Hi, how do make Ekiga work in Ubuntu?
[16:16] <gustav__> "do you"
[16:16] <guruguy> Xlent - TYVM
[16:17] <gustav__> I can make some calls but in doesn't seem to work.
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> ajeffco: could look in /etc/rc.X etc
[16:17] <nzaccardi> Hello!  When a user is on the Desktop and starts typing a box in the lower left corner shows up... what is that?
[16:17] <benq> hello
[16:18] <dr_willis> nzaccardi:  nautilus's search entry field
[16:18] <Erik_D> keith_:  a few full drain / full charge cycles might help
[16:18] <andrea_> could somebody help me creat a script to kill a process if it exceedes >30% CPU use for 15 seconds?
[16:18] <nzaccardi> dr_willis: What does it do?
[16:18] <dr_willis> or was that on the right side?
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> nzaccardi: search in the nautilus running drawing the desktop icons
[16:18] <guruguy> this killg me... bbl...
[16:18] <Erik_D> keith_: I'm not too sure what too do about the double battery
[16:18] <benq> where are  you
[16:18] <ajeffco> ActionParsnip:  Thanks, didn't think of that.  Was looking for a neato command to put into a script for checking.
[16:18] <nzaccardi> ActionParsnip, dr_willis: Can I launch applications from it?
[16:18] <dr_willis> nzaccardi:  type in somthing like 'terminal' and hit enter and see.. not on a pc at the moment
[16:19] <nzaccardi> dr_willis: Nothing...
[16:19] <lollko> hi ;)
[16:19] <dr_willis> nzaccardi:  if you tap alt thats the hud search/launcher. super = the dash launcher.. i think
[16:19] <dr_willis> in the file manager. its to select a file i belive
[16:20] <nzaccardi> dr_willis: Thanks,  I will do some more research.
[16:20] <dr_willis> im not on a ubuntu box to verify
[16:20] <dr_willis> nzaccardi:  press and hold  super = show a shortcuts screen   ;)
[16:20] <arvislacis> Anybody want to help me?
[16:21] <arvislacis> Can someone get http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mesa/libxatr[remove]acker1_8.0.4-0ubuntu0.2_i386.deb package, rename it and send me back?
[16:21] <nzaccardi> arvislacis: What is your questions...
[16:21] <JuJuBee> I need assistance getting an HP LaserJet Pro 400dn (M451) installed in kubuntu 12.10.  System Settings detected it and installed it but nothing prints and the que stays empty
[16:21] <arvislacis> Only remove [remove] part.
[16:21] <dr_willis> thats theres a difference between taping the key, and a press/hold action , seems to confuse people
[16:22] <JuJuBee> I think I use hp utility under 11.10
[16:22] <dr_willis> !info hplip
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> nzaccardi: kinda, if you have binaries in the desktop (unlikely)
[16:23] <JuJuBee> dr_willis: I cannot find the gui for it after installing it.
[16:23] <nzaccardi> ActionParsnip: Is there anything for Linux... like alfred for Mac OS X
[16:23] <dr_willis> JuJuBee:  no idea on thet. not used it in years
[16:23] <zykotick9> andrea_: you script to kill high cpu usage is... misguided.
[16:23] <dr_willis> alfred does what exactly?
[16:23] <arvislacis> Any help for my problem with libxa.t.r.a.c.k.e.r package?
[16:23] <RyanL> I am trying to perform an MD5 checksum on the distro CD I burned, I can't figure out how to do it (I am currently using WIndows)
[16:24] <JuJuBee> dr_willis: I found it. they changed icon
[16:24] <dr_willis> RyanL:  theres md5 tools for windows. you install them, right click on the cd drive. select 'md5 chekc' i recall
[16:24] <dr_willis> !md5
[16:24] <Walther> Now I'm getting "unable to load module nvidia, doesn't exist"
[16:24] <RyanL> thanks drwillis
[16:25] <dr_willis> RyanL:  also check the iso files sum
[16:25] <arvislacis> :(
[16:25] <arvislacis> I can't update my system correctly.
[16:29] <codename-nos> any solution for intel/amd swithcable graphics laptop ?
[16:30] <Walther> sudo: nvidia-xconfig: command not found
[16:30] <Walther> now what is this D:
[16:30] <bonez2046> I am trying to load 12.04 onto a machine with win 8 already installed...
[16:31] <bonez2046> I booted up onetime iwith the 12.04 disc, blew past the configuration and wanted to make special configuration change to the amount of space, set up a shared partition and now, despite having win8 try to boot the ubuntu disk, it won't boot from it
[16:32] <bonez2046> is win8 that 'smart' that you get one and only one chance and then that's it?
[16:32] <bkc_> bonez2046: did you install the bootloader? :)
[16:34] <bonez2046> bkc_: the 'bootloader'? I figured that if I could just get ubuntu installed it would install a bootloader, but I reset it before any of that could get configured
[16:34] <Walther> sudo nvidia-xconfig -> command not found?
[16:34] <edgy> Hi, my resolv.conf contains: nameserver 127.0.1.1, why? shouldn't it get the dns from my router or isp? how can I troubleshoot this?
[16:34] <bonez2046> the installation screen would NOT allow me to go backward to halt or quit the installation
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> bonez2046  there's this (havent tried it myself) http://www.intowindows.com/dual-boot-windows-8-and-ubuntu/
[16:35] <bonez2046> bkc_: does my response help
[16:35] <Walther> [   290.925] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
[16:35] <bonez2046> MonkeyDust: thanks...taking a look now
[16:35] <bkc_> Walther: sudo apt-get install nvidia
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> !info nvidia | bkc_
[16:36] <Walther> bkc_: I have nvidia-current installed
[16:36] <Walther> bkc_: and there is no such package as "nvidia"
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> !info nvidia-current | bkc_
[16:37] <bonez2046> so it looks like with win8 I have to set up a new partition from win8, and not just from the ubuntu install side? Does this suggest that win 8 demands full control of what gets loaded on a drive?
[16:37] <bkc_> ActionParsnip: why are you giving those too me? o.O
[16:37] <Walther> so, uh, now I don't have any working nvidia support at all, and my resolution on GUI is 640x480
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> bkc_: to show the right package name
[16:37] <bkc_> Walther: what graphics card do you have?
[16:38] <Walther> bkc_: Intel HD4000 and Nvidia 620M
[16:38] <Walther> optimus is obviously causing the problem here
[16:38] <rocky> hello, i have foobar.pls stored on my sdcard (along with music) and when i open up rhythmbox and select the sdcard, it says "Could not determine type of stream" ... how do i get rhythmbox to register playlists on my sdcard ?
[16:39] <bkc_> rocky: you need to install non-free codecs (ubuntu-restricted-extras) from Software Center or apt-get
[16:40] <rocky> bkc_, what's the package name for that?
[16:40] <rocky> oh
[16:40] <rocky> ok
[16:41] <bkc_> rocky: do keep in mind that some of those codecs are actually illegal in USA, and that they are non-free :)
[16:41] <rocky> bkc_, i'm not in the usa ;)   which package specifically will give rhythmbox pls support?
[16:42] <babilen> arvislacis: So, please explain once more what you problem is and what you want us to do about it.
[16:42] <rocky> because i think i already have the non-free repos activated
[16:42] <bkc_> rocky: it has nothing to do with the .pls-file, it's probably an mp3/aac file in that list that causes it too fail :)
[16:43] <arvislacis> I have problem updating my system because my internet ban the word t.r.a.c.k so I can't download http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mesa/libxatr[remove]acker1_8.0.4-0ubuntu0.2_i386.deb package babilen
[16:43] <rocky> bkc_, it plays mp3's fine
[16:43] <rocky> and there's only one music file on the device, it's an mp3
[16:43] <gustav__> Why doesn't Ekiga work?
[16:43] <babilen> arvislacis: What happens if you try to download that package? And what kind of brain-dead administrator runs your network?
[16:44] <BluesKaj> arvislacis, are you trying to use a torrent download , if that's failing just try the http download
[16:44] <arvislacis> babilen: It just don't allow to download, "Failed to fetch error", it is the University network.
[16:45] <arvislacis> BluesKaj: I use Terminal - want say it is illegal? :D
[16:45] <bkc_> rocky: you do know that pls-files are mostly for radio-stations right? use an .m3u file instead :)
[16:45] <BluesKaj> no it's not illegal to use torrent clients to download opensource files . arvislacis
[16:46] <babilen> arvislacis: Please speak to whoever is responsible for that as content filtering like that is not only ridiculous but completely stupid. Give me a second though, I'll see what I can do.
[16:46] <Basil1x> Hello.  I did a clean install of 12.10 yesterday.  Ktorrent no longer puts its' icon in the top bar.  Is there any way to restore it?
[16:46] <arvislacis> BluesKaj: I hate illegal stuff and now I am starting to hate open-source.
[16:47] <Pici> arvislacis: this has nothing to do with open source, it has to do with the policies of your network.
[16:47] <arvislacis> babilen: Can't you simple download that package, rename and sent me back?
[16:47] <dr_willis> illeagle closed source is better?
[16:47] <rocky> i've had such problems with setting up my sdcard to track music and playlists that i've only copied one mp3 file and one playlist that uses that mp3 (via sync'ing) but i get the error that it doesn't understand pls files
[16:47] <arvislacis> I will better start to use my Calculator not PC. :D
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> arvislacis  you would have similar issues with closed source
[16:47] <BluesKaj> it's your adminstrator who has set the ban on certain types of downloads , it's not  open source that's at fault here
[16:47] <babilen> arvislacis: "Give me a second though, I'll see what I can do."
[16:48] <BluesKaj> arvislacis,^
[16:48] <arvislacis> BluesKaj: I know the problem, I just don't like that most of people make this problem so difficult.
[16:49] <babilen> arvislacis: You should definitely talk to computer support. It is their braindead approach ...
[16:49] <arvislacis> It is funny to see that almost nobody can't help me in situation when I know the solution. So what happens to that users who don't know nothing?
[16:50] <dr_willis> im on my phone.. so cant really send files ;)
[16:50] <babilen> arvislacis: http://wikisend.com/download/209772/foo.deb
[16:50] <arvislacis> It is better to write five books about solution not to try to help. Well, THANKS ALL.
[16:50] <dr_willis> hmm. never heard of wikisend
[16:50] <arvislacis> babilen: Thanks a lot. :) I will now be silent.
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> arvislacis  you're seeing it wrong, that's why you're upset
[16:52] <estudiante> hola perros
[16:52] <Basil1x> I did a clean install of 12.10 yesterday.  Ktorrent no longer puts its' icon in the top bar.  Is there any way to restore it?
[16:53] <rasha666> i have problem, when i attempt to start my computer it say grub rescue>
[16:53] <rasha666> what can i do
[16:53] <seachdamh> arvislacis: Imho. Why string "t r a c " is bloked? This is a new banned and criminal word or sth? There is any reason?
[16:54] <arvislacis> seachdamh: Don't know the real reason but that is the fact.
[16:54] <rasha666> i have problem, when i attempt to start my computer it say grub rescue> what can i do???
[16:55] <arvislacis> Ok, thanks all, Problem solved.
[16:55] <rasha666> i have problem, when i attempt to start my computer it say grub rescue>
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> arvislacis  for future reference, how did you do it?
[16:56] <arvislacis> I am thinking about it - if there any other way how to get Ubuntu packages without using package names or something like that?
[16:56] <arvislacis> MonkeyDust: What do you mean?
[16:56] <philinux> rasha666: Did it work ok up till you did something?
[16:57] <dr_willis> arvislacis:  there was some torrent-apt tool i recall
[16:57] <Basil1x> I did a clean install of 12.10 yesterday.  Ktorrent no longer puts its' icon in the top bar.  Is there any way to restore it?
[16:57] <seachdamh> arvislacis: in future, you can use tor to baypass content-filtering in your network, but tor is slow.
[16:57] <arvislacis> Ok
[16:57] <rasha666> @philinux yes i accidentally formatted one partition
[16:58] <arvislacis> Thanks all again. ;)
[16:58] <rasha666> but than i reinstalled it
[16:58] <dr_willis> rasha666:  what partiion was it/z
[16:58] <Stinn> test
[16:58] <dr_willis> Stinn:  2+=?
[16:58] <rasha666> ext4///dev/sda2
[16:59] <dr_willis> rasha666:  so that was your / or /boot/ or /home?
[16:59] <Walther> so, uh, now I can't get any nvidia drivers to work
[16:59] <Basil1x> I did a clean install of 12.10 yesterday.  Ktorrent no longer puts its' icon in the top bar.  Is there any way to restore it?  I've tried the configure menu and it doesn't work.
[16:59] <rasha666> @dr_willis that was /
[16:59] <dr_willis> Basil1x:  for kubuntu there is the #kubuntu channel also
[17:00] <zvacet> rasha666 : did you install grub?
[17:00] <Basil1x> this is Under Unity, dr_willis.
[17:00] <dr_willis> rasha666:  so you totally erased / and had to reinstall? or did you restore it from backups?
[17:00] <rasha666> i did
[17:00] <sowe> hi all
[17:00] <rasha666> yes
[17:01] <dr_willis> Basil1x:  you may need to whitelist the  program to get it to appear in sys systray
[17:01] <MrOxy> Anyone here has GPU's?
[17:01] <Basil1x> OK... how do I do that?
[17:01] <MrOxy> Anyone here has ATI GPU's?
[17:01] <rasha666> @dr_willis yes i installed it
[17:01] <dr_willis> Basil1x:  saw it mentioned at webupd8 or omgubuntu, its some command ive never needed.
[17:02] <MrOxy> Want to make some free cash from your GPU's?
[17:02] <sowe> i've this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/1355894/
[17:02] <sowe> any idea?
[17:02] <dr_willis> MrOxy:  why do i feel this is leading to somthing offtipic....
[17:02] <MrOxy> dr_willis: Yes this is a little bit Off-Topic
[17:03] <dr_willis> sowe:  its a good idea to at least give a small summary of the problem here
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> MrOxy  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:03] <MrOxy> Most of the people are here
[17:04] <MrOxy> not many people are in the Off_Topic Section
[17:04] <Kart> sowe: install the missing plug-ins .. what were you trying to run that have you that error message ?
[17:04] <philinux> rasha666: I think you need to reinstall grub
[17:06] <sowe> dr_willis and Kart i'm so sorry of course i'll try to see the video in WMV format. i'm installed Medibuntu and nothing
[17:06] <dr_willis> sowe:  wmv could be of any codec. vlc may give info about what codec its using.
[17:06] <philinux> MrOxy: you can always have a chat here #ubuntuforums
[17:06] <dr_willis> sowe:  if the wmv is drm protected then linux wont be able to play it
[17:07] <philinux> MrOxy: it's not a support forum though
[17:07] <K_F> Anyone know of a PPA that provide gnutls >= 3.1.4?
[17:07] <zvacet> rasha666: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[17:07] <MrOxy> i want to tell something to gamers
[17:07] <MrOxy> If there are any Gamers here Please PM me
[17:07] <Pici> MrOxy: Please do not do that here.
[17:07] <dr_willis> sowe:  ive also seen some wmvs with  well.. lets say questionable codecs that require you to install specific things in windows..
[17:07] <zvacet> MrOxy: this is support chanel do you havve any question
[17:08] <Kart> sowe: but the error says missing plug0ins .. i am wondering if you have the ubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> MrOxy: check PM
[17:09] <sowe> dr_willis and Kart,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/189811/required-plugin-could-not-be-found I have followed this manual.
[17:09] <philinux> MrOxy: there is #ubuntu-gaming
[17:10] <MrOxy> philinux: Only five people in that Channel
[17:10] <philinux> MrOxy: whoa teeming with peeps then lol
[17:10] <Basil1x> dr_willis: apparently the fixes online only work in versions prior to 12.04.
[17:10] <Kart> sowe: were you able to all 6 steps with no errors ?
[17:11] <sowe> Kart : yes
[17:12] <sowe> and the Extras restringidos de Ubuntu pakage it's installed
[17:12] <tux9th> Is anyone familiar with UFW? I get a strange error which I cannot understand. UFW blocks port 53/udp even though I allowed it :-/ Therfore ssh connecting takes forever!
[17:12] <kdub> is noveau the default nvidia driver on ubuntu 12.10?
[17:13] <TheNumb> kdub: should be.
[17:13] <bekks> kdub: Only using nvidia gpus.
[17:15] <dr_willis> sowe:  i would install vlc, run vlc from a terminal, try to play the video then look for errors in the terminal. and check the file info in the vlc menus...
[17:15] <dr_willis> to see what codec its using
[17:15] <Kart> sowe: have you followed these steps as well : http://onlinemeeting.lefora.com/2009/12/08/g2m3-codec-download/#post0
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> tux9th: have you allowed it in both directions?
[17:18] <tux9th> Default: deny (incoming), allow (outgoing)
[17:18] <tux9th> 53/udp                     ALLOW IN    Anywhere (v6)
[17:18] <tux9th> I assume outgoing is allowed
[17:18] <tux9th> I added outgoing port 53/udp too didn't hlp
[17:18] <Mmike> so, why would anyone disable adding shortcuts/applets on the top panel?
[17:19] <dr_willis> you can install applets that to to the top panel.
[17:19] <dr_willis> 'indicator-applets'  askubuntu.com has a huge list of them
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> tux9th: I'd check the out too, covers the bases
[17:22] <tux9th> well I don't think the out is the problem
[17:22] <dr_willis> why is ssh using port 53? ive missed somthingZ? or is my ssh skills lacking?
[17:23] <TheNumb> dr_willis: wat?
[17:23] <TheNumb> ssh using port 53? :P
[17:23] <tux9th> ssh using port 22
[17:23] <dr_willis> was mentioned that he neeeded to open port 53 for ssh..
[17:24] <tux9th> dns uses port 22
[17:24] <tux9th> *53
[17:24] <dr_willis> not clear why he needd that
[17:24] <tux9th> I opened port 53
[17:24] <dr_willis> ssh is doing a reverse dns perhaps?
[17:24] <tux9th> but it doesn't open
[17:24] <tux9th> yeah ssh does a rdns request
[17:24] <tux9th> but I can't get port 53 to open for some reason, I see in the log that request to port 53 are blocked
[17:24] <tux9th> yet I do not know why
[17:25] <tux9th> as I activated it
[17:25] <dr_willis> hmm.. i never opened port 53 on my router and i can ssh in quickly
[17:27] <sowe> nothing at all
[17:28] <Kart> sowe: did you try the one i mentioned in my earlier link ?
[17:30] <sowe> Kart : yes
[17:31] <babyswizz> please am trying to play linux files on my ubuntu linux and i get an error message saying python(v2.7) reqiures to install pluggins and i dont know which particular package to install
[17:32] <bazhang> babyswizz, linux files? which ones are those
[17:32] <babyswizz> please am trying to play music files on my ubuntu linux and i get an error message saying python(v2.7) reqiures to install pluggins and i dont know which particular package to install
[17:32] <bazhang> babyswizz, please respond to my question
[17:33] <babyswizz> bazhang i meant music files not linux files
[17:33] <bazhang> babyswizz, which format
[17:34] <babyswizz> bazhang mp3 and several other media format
[17:34] <bazhang> babyswizz, which player, and what other formats
[17:34] <andrea_> zykotick9: not sure what you mean
[17:35] <babyswizz> i use rythme box and i can't play mp3, mp4 etc
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> babyswizz: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:35] <gergteg> guys, how to connect to irc through terminal?
[17:35] <zykotick9> andrea_: you don't want to just kill processes just cpu, they might be important...
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> gergteg: use irssi
[17:35] <zykotick9> s/just/using/
[17:36] <andrea_> zykotick9: i just need to monitor one process and kill it if exceedes a threshold
[17:36] <andrea_> zykotick9: i know the name of the process, so it should be easy
[17:36] <shinobi> 12.04 - I've added the gnome PPA to my list of repos and installed the gnome shell. Yet it installs gnome fallback session and I don't have a choice (with the gnome foot) at login that gives me a gnome 3 session. I only get an ubuntu logo gnome fallback and 2 gnome logo gnome classic (v2) sessions. How do I get the option for Gnome 3 as provided by the PPA?
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> shinobi: gnome-shell is in teh default repos. WHy do you need a PPA?
[17:37] <you_> BlueT_:
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-shell | shinobi
[17:37] <gergteg> thanks, ActionParsnip
[17:38] <babyswizz> actionparsnip, i installed ubuntu restricted extras and i installed it offline, i dont know if this has anything to do with the error message am still getting
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> shinobi: I suggest you remove the PPA and install the one from the official repos which have been tested for your release
[17:38] <shinobi> ActionParsnip: I've tried the standard repos and it only gives me the gnome 2 fallback session.
[17:39] <shinobi> Am I doing something wrong? err... what am I doing wrong  <_ Action Parsnip
[17:41] <babyswizz> please am trying to play music files on my ubuntu linux and i get an error message saying python(v2.7) reqiures to install pluggins and i dont know which particular package to install
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> babyswizz: have you tried a different media player?
[17:42] <you_> \msg
[17:43] <you_> \msgBlueT_: 哈摟 ！我是游鎮宇 101213043
[17:43] <babyswizz> ActionParsnip what other media player can i use
[17:43] <cherr> anyone know of a fairly comprehensive list of unofficial software packages that really should be installed on a new ubuntu system, for various things?
[17:43] <TheNumb> babyswizz: try python-gst
[17:44] <you_> \msgBlueT_: 哈摟 ！我是游鎮宇 101213043
[17:44] <Praxi> babyswizz, tried VLC?
[17:44] <budtaz> hello Ubuntu .   any one can help me with issue problem issue with update manager   and its have two  other upadtes (LP-PPA-webupd8team-java)  and    Oracle java (TM) Development kit (JDK) 7  oracle-java7-installer (size: 18 kb)
[17:45] <babyswizz> TheNumb: is python-gst a media player?
[17:49] <babyswizz> TheNumb i can't seem to find a package called python-gst on the ubuntu package site
[17:51] <Pelo> is anyone else having problems with conky as of today ?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> babyswizz: vlc for one...
[17:51] <bazhang> babyswizz, did you install win32codecs from medibuntu.org
[17:52] <zykotick9> bazhang: not sure if it applies, but i don't think vlc uses w32codecs...
[17:52] <babyswizz> bazhang i didnt
[17:53] <bazhang> zykotick9, he said rhythmbox initially, cannot hurt to try
[17:53] <bazhang> babyswizz, you only mentioned mp3 for the audio, were there others
[17:55] <babyswizz> bazhang i have only tried playing mp3 and mp4 formats
[17:55] <bazhang> babyswizz, are the files on a different partition?
[17:57] <babyswizz> bazhang: am actually using my ubuntu linux on a virtual machine
[17:57] <bazhang> babyswizz, so what is the host, and where are the actual files
[17:59] <babyswizz> bazhang: the host is windows 7 and i dragged and drop the files on the media folder of guest machine home
[18:00] <aperson> what's the command to see the current installed nvidia driver version?  I know there was just a file I could cat
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> aperson: apt-cache policy nvidia-current
[18:01] <aperson> I do not have nvidia-current installed, ActionParsnip
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> aperson: try:  dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[18:01] <aperson> wait, I found it
[18:02] <aperson> `cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version`
[18:02] <aperson> thanks anyways :)
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> aperson: nvidia-settings tells you too :)
[18:03] <aperson> I didn't know if the xswat ppa updated to include the 3.10 driver yet, and I had only just restarted x
[18:03] <isambart> hehe
[18:04] <isambart> et moi aussi
[18:05] <inner_peace> hello, how can i play video from shell
[18:07] <holstein> !aview
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> inner_peace: mplayer has ascii output if you want
[18:08] <holstein> inner_peace: http://packages.debian.org/stable/aview maybe.. it is in the repos AFAIK
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> !info aview
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> or just run:      mplayer -vo aa:driver=curses video.avi
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> http://oreilly.com/pub/h/4441
[18:14] <babyswizz> bazhang i have tried looking for the win32codecs but cant find it
[18:15] <smooth-texan> Howdy all, I need to install an older version of the Ubuntu kernel, but I'm not sure how.  Can someone point me in the right direction?
[18:15] <bazhang> babyswizz, thats not the issue, I suspect.  it's the file sharing method between guest and host that I would point to
[18:15] <holstein> smooth-texan: i would just browse and grab the .deb for it
[18:15] <bazhang> smooth-texan, why ever would you need that
[18:16] <smooth-texan> bazhang: My suspend stopped working
[18:16] <holstein> i would keep the current one around...
[18:16] <holstein> smooth-texan: depending on how old, it might be still installed, or in the repos already
[18:16] <bazhang> smooth-texan, what version of ubuntu , and what kernel were you proposing on using
[18:17] <babyswizz> bazhang what do you suggest i do to play mp3 files
[18:17] <smooth-texan> bazhang: I'm on 12.10, but I want to try a 3.2 kernel
[18:17] <bazhang> babyswizz, correctly share the files between guest and host is the issue I suspect
[18:17] <ryan_> Hey, my laptop  has a fresh install of ubuntu 12.10 but it is not recognizing my wireless adapter. I need help installing drivers please.
[18:18] <MonkeyDust> !wifi | ryan_ read this first
[18:18] <smooth-texan> holstein: so you're saying I can browse the 12.04 repos and download/install the debs from there?
[18:18] <bazhang> smooth-texan, thats a terrible idea
[18:19] <holstein> smooth-texan: i would answer bazhang ... depends on what you are looking for
[18:19] <bazhang> ryan_, whats the chipset
[18:19] <decottis> ciao
[18:19] <decottis> !list
[18:19] <ryan_> it is a realtek 8101e/8102e PCI
[18:20] <smooth-texan> bazhang: holstein: I already mentioned that I'm looking for a 3.2 kernel
[18:21] <holstein> smooth-texan: i would search for a .deb.. or something that is easy to revert from, when bad things happen..
[18:21] <bazhang> smooth-texan, mixing packages from different versions is an especially bad idea, not to mention kernels
[18:22] <holstein> yup... bad things might not happen right off, but they surely will soon
[18:22] <babyswizz> bazhang, please am trying to use my usb modem with ubuntu 12.10 but i cant seem to keep the connection for 5seconds
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> ryan_: seems to use the r8169
[18:22] <bazhang> smooth-texan, its completely unsupported, and plan on having backups when things go wrong
[18:23] <ryan_> Ahh, I seem to have confused my ethernet with my wifi >_<
[18:23] <smooth-texan> bazhang: I'm not removing my 3.5 kernel, so i'm not too worried about borking with 3.2
[18:25] <babyswizz> please am trying to use my usb modem with ubuntu 12.10 but i cant seem to keep the connection for 5seconds
[18:25] <binary_glitch> you should take this to a channel
[18:26] <babyswizz> please am trying to use my usb modem with ubuntu 12.10 but i cant seem to keep the connection for 5seconds
[18:27] <glide> logout
[18:28] <cherr> hey guys, trying to download and unzip a music folder from the pretty lights lp site. a couple of the packages unzipped fine, but this one "MichalMenert-Even_If_It_Isnt_Right.zip.crdownload" is giving me an error when its tried to extract. i can unpack .zips fine, is the .crdownload creating the error?
[18:28] <babyswizz> please am trying to use my usb modem with ubuntu 12.10 but i cant seem to keep the connection for 5seconds
[18:29] <Erik_D> cherr: Are you sure the file finished downloading?
[18:29] <Pici> cherr: that is usually the filename that chrome uses while it is in the process of downloading the file.
[18:29] <pradeep_> babyswizz, how did you connect it
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> babyswizz: run:  lsusb    use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[18:29] <cherr> pici: ahh, that makes sense lol
[18:29] <cherr> erik_d, yes, totally positive its finished
[18:29] <cherr> should i post the error?
[18:29] <Erik_D> sure
[18:30] <cherr> 7-Zip 9.20  Copyright (c) 1999-2010 Igor Pavlov  2010-11-18
[18:30] <cherr> p7zip Version 9.20 (locale=en_US.UTF-8,Utf16=on,HugeFiles=on,2 CPUs)
[18:30] <cherr> Error: /home/cherr/Downloads/MichalMenert-Even_If_It_Isnt_Right.zip: Can not open file as archive
[18:30] <cherr> Errors: 1
[18:30] <Erik_D> but as Pici said, looks like an unfinished download
[18:30] <dr_willis> bad archive it seems
[18:30] <cherr> it's just off, i've unzipped it on win7 totally fine. ill start the download again and make sure its finished and try again
[18:31] <yeehi> in an installation with a single / partition, do i have to mark the partition bootable?
[18:31] <Erik_D> !paste | cherr
[18:31] <Chakravanti> why is gtkdialog gone from repos?
[18:32] <b0w> hello, anyone can help on getting a touchpad working on a toshiba satellite p855-s5312, ubuntu 12.10 fress install
[18:32] <heroxbd> hi, where could I get an archive of Maverick (10.10)? I have a legacy machine to update.
[18:32] <cherr> sorry botty
[18:32] <Chakravanti> is it still gone in 12.10?
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> b0w: have you tried disabling tap-to-click
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> !info gtkdialog
[18:33] <Kartagis> !find gtkdialog
[18:34] <Kartagis> Chakravanti: ^
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> Chakravanti: seems to have stopped since hardy (as a package)
[18:34] <trism> Chakravanti: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=543945 deleted in lucid
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> b0w: have you tried the boot option: i8042.nomux=1
[18:35] <ryan_> i just used the command sudo rmmod r8169, how do i reverse that :(
[18:35] <Chakravanti> i've figure out it's been removed and i'm tryign to compile it and it can't find gtk2
[18:35] <ryan_> that killed my ethernet connection
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> b0w: actually, try this
[18:36] <ikonia> ryan_: modprobe it
[18:36] <pradeep_> do we treat kubuntu issues here too
[18:36] <pradeep_> ?
[18:36] <on5sl> hi guys i want to start darkstat with service darkstat start, but no process appears. Nothing in the message log too...what could i do now?
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> b0w: sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sleep 2; modprobe psmouse proto=any
[18:36] <cherr> must have been a messed up download, just worked perfectly. thanks for the help
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> b0w: sorry, sudo modprobe psmouse proto=any
[18:36] <cele> is it possible to install ubuntu on a hdd while it's connected to my PC, and then put it into my laptop?
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> cele: absolutely
[18:36] <trism> Chakravanti: libgtk2.0-dev though who knows if it will still compile
[18:37] <ryan_> thanks ikonia
[18:37] <ikonia> on5sl: how did you install it
[18:37] <cele> the laptop being a macbook...
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> b0w: or if that is no good: sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sleep 2; sudo modprobe psmouse proto=imps
[18:37] <ikonia> cele: the macbook will boot different, so no
[18:37] <on5sl> ikonia: trough apt-get
[18:37] <cele> no way to setup refit or something similar from the pc ?
[18:37] <ikonia> cele: no
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> cele: as long as the CPU arch of the mac can be handled by the first system to get the OS installed, yes
[18:37] <ikonia> cele: why don't you do it from the mac
[18:38] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: that's not true due to how the mac boots
[18:38] <ryan_> How do i determine my Wifi adapter? i am able to see my ethernet one with sudo lshw -C network
[18:38] <cele> because i reformatted the whole drive
[18:38] <cele> so all is gone
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> cele: you can certainly get the OS on the drive at least
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: you can put the OS on the drive, then deal with the boot
[18:38] <heroxbd> got the answer old-releases.ubuntu.com
[18:38] <cele> and i dont have a cd-drive on the macbook
[18:38] <Chakravanti> trism, i'm trying to install multisystem, i've used it since lucid without having to install gtkdialog but now their repo is broken it seems
[18:38] <theadmin> cele: Use a USB stick
[18:38] <cele> to do what
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> cele: can the macbook boot usb?
[18:39] <jrib> !upgrade | heroxbd
[18:39] <theadmin> cele: You can install Ubuntu from a USB stick
[18:39] <ikonia> the macbook will use EFI and expects certain things to be in place
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> b0w: if one works, let me know and we can make it permanent :)
[18:39] <jrib> heroxbd: the eol update information there can help you with the upgrade process (and includes information about old-archives.ubuntu.com)
[18:39] <cele> theadmin, ye, but the macbook wont boot the usb
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> never got the whole "buy an overpriced mac then put ubuntu on it"
[18:40] <cele> ikonia, you're right, but isnt there anyway to install refit to the hdd from ubuntu?
[18:40] <blup1>  does anyone know a programm that I can use with lubuntu to rotate the content of PDF files?
[18:40] <Chakravanti> ActionParsnip, it's more like how to put linux onto a handmedown device
[18:40] <ikonia> cele: no
[18:41] <trism> Chakravanti: don't know what that is
[18:41] <holstein> Chakravanti: if refit makes a linux version... but you can try clonezilla... though you will need to boot something on the mac at some point
[18:41] <holstein> Chakravanti: sorry
[18:41] <cele> ikonia: ok, so if i reinstall a leopard install on the drive, then plug it in the macbook, it should boot right?
[18:42] <holstein> cele: if refit makes a linux version... but you can try clonezilla... though you will need to boot something on the mac at some point
[18:42] <ikonia> cele: if you install mac os and needed components to a disk and plug it in the mac, it will boot
[18:42] <cele> "needed components" ?
[18:43] <ikonia> cele: yes, the layout and components needed to boot a mac
[18:43] <cele> holstein, the problem isnt getting ubuntu on the drive, it's getting the mac booting it
[18:43] <yeehi> If there is only one partition: /  do we need to mark this partition as bootable?
[18:44] <holstein> cele: i just installed on a macbook... booted the CD and installed.. that was back in 10.04 though it should be the same
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> yeehi: grub doesn't pay attention to the bootable flag
[18:44] <dr_willis> yeehi: i belive i always do
[18:44] <cele> ikonia, ok, then lets say i have leopard booting, is there ANY way to have only ubuntu on the drive AFTER installing refit from mac os?
[18:44] <dr_willis> but i dont think grub caresses
[18:44] <cele> holstein, i dont have a cd-drive, thats the problem
[18:44] <ikonia> cele: it doesn't work like that
[18:44] <Chakravanti> trism, http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fliveusb.info%2Fdotclear%2F
[18:45] <streulma> hello, anyone that knows a driver that works with E2 Vision ?
[18:45] <cele> ikonia, i need to have leopard installed to even be able to boot ?
[18:45] <cele> or any mac os
[18:45] <streulma> I use Ubuntu 12.10
[18:45] <thebiffman> Anyone know how I can disable bluetooth module in my xubuntu installation? The bluetooth module loads and the icon appears. But my system does not have bluetooth :P
[18:45] <ikonia> cele: you need to have a compatible mac os
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> streulma: the AMD GPU?
[18:45] <holstein> cele: you should be able to install from whatever method you were going to install leopard, though i havent used the mac in a while
[18:45] <streulma> ActionParsnip: Yes
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> thebiffman: blacklist the bluetooth module
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> streulma: run:  sudo lshw -C display    what chip does it say it is?
[18:46] <thebiffman> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> streulma: we just need the product line
[18:46] <cele> ikonia, i do, look, i have a macbook, the drive stopped working and i wanted to install ubuntu, so i plugged the hdd into my pc, and reformatted the whole drive and installed ubuntu on it
[18:46] <cele> the cd-drive* stopped working
[18:46] <ikonia> cele: it won't work
[18:46] <cele> it didnt
[18:46] <ikonia> cele: try it
[18:46] <cele> thats why i am here
[18:47] <streulma> ActionParsnip: It's not booting anymore, it said ATI 9808
[18:47] <Chakravanti> incidentally, gtkdialog compiles and works just fine
[18:47] <cele> the macbook wont boot
[18:47] <streulma> cele: you have to use EFI
[18:47] <holstein> cele: could be bad hardware...
[18:47] <streulma> ceie: which Macbook ?
[18:47] <cele> a white, model 2007 i think
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> streulma: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[18:47] <DrGrov> Hi
[18:48] <cele> streulma, yes clearly, but how do i "recover" from this state?
[18:48] <streulma> cele: you have to make the usb stick with UnetBootin
[18:48] <cele> ok
[18:48] <streulma> cele: the macbook wont boot ?
[18:48] <DrGrov> Running 10.04. Got a prompt from Update Manager to update my Flash and I did. Now I am stuck with a crippled Flash version. Unable to watch 720p or 1080p HD on YT and other Flash content on websites.
[18:48] <DrGrov> Any ideas what has happened?
[18:48] <cele> not after i plugged back the HDD i installed ubuntu on
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: what browsers have you tested?
[18:49] <on5sl> ikonia: any idea? Also i can see now that i haven't got any logs :s my messages log file is empty?!
[18:49] <guruguy> does any1 know which way is up @ ubuntu? i downloaded amd64 12.10, desktop - but it's md5 says it's i386 per: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes !?!?!?
[18:50] <ikonia> !info darkstat
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> guruguy: where did you get the file from?
[18:50] <ikonia> on5sl: is it actually a service ?
[18:50] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: I am using Chromium as my primary browser. The Flash version I have installed according to Synaptic is 11.2.202.251.x
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: try firefox to test
[18:50] <guruguy> i followed the links on ubuntu.com's homepage
[18:51] <on5sl> ikonia: it should be?
[18:51] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Ok, will do.
[18:51] <ikonia> on5sl: are you sure ?
[18:51] <on5sl> ikonia: when i start it manually though it works
[18:51] <ikonia> on5sl: how are you starting it manually ?
[18:51] <guruguy> and - BTW - i downloaded it TWICE thinking first copy was wrong!
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> guruguy: http://releases.ubuntu.mirrors.uk2.net/quantal/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso    try that
[18:52] <SeNo> ubunto install crash. installing 12.10 through usb . help asap . logged in from mobile
[18:52] <on5sl> darkstart -i eth1 -b 0.0.0.0 -p 6662
[18:52] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Same prompt on YouTube that tells I should upgrade to the latest Flash.
[18:52] <streulma> guruguy: go to http://releases.ubuntu.com ?
[18:52] <guruguy> outstanding! can't tell you how hard i tried to find a link to their iso mirror!!
[18:52] <ikonia> on5sl: that doesn't mean it's a service
[18:52] <ikonia> on5sl: if you look at that command, that is very specific,
[18:52] <guruguy> TYVM!
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: can you give the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[18:52]  * [_-S1L3NC3-_] Hell o
[18:52] <cele> so now i'm putting to ubuntu iso on a usb stick with unetbootin, will that boot on the macbook?
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: or similar
[18:53] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Will do.
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> SeNo: Ubuntu, not ubunto
[18:53] <on5sl> ikonia: yes but in the /etc/darkstat/init.cfg i can specify the startup options too
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> SeNo: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[18:53] <streulma> cele: first you have to format the drive
[18:53] <ikonia> on5sl: that again doesn't mean it's a service
[18:53] <ikonia> on5sl: (I dont know if it is/isn't I've not used it before)
[18:53] <streulma> cele: then sudo fdisk -e /dev/rdisk1 or another drive
[18:53] <ikonia> on5sl: is there an upstart job for it
[18:54] <Chakravanti> ActionParsnip, i'm pretty sure it's a touchscreen typo
[18:54] <cele> streulma, what drive are we talking about, remember i have a corrupt hdd in my unbootable macbook
[18:54] <on5sl> ikonia: how can i find out if it has a jobstart? (sorry im' used too freebsd)
[18:54] <Chakravanti> I have a miserable time typing correctly on an android and autocorrect always makes it worse
[18:54] <ikonia> on5sl: look in the upstart jobs
[18:55] <on5sl> ikonia: i don't know where that is...
[18:55] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Here it is, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1356138/
[18:55] <jaequery> for setting up file servers (large amount of files), what is the preferred filesystem? ext3/ext4/zfs? basically, i want something stable, dont care about performance, i just don't want to deal with file corruption down the line
[18:55] <ikonia> on5sl: ok, so that's what you need to resaearch
[18:56] <on5sl> ikonia: k
[18:56] <KI4RO> .
[18:57] <on5sl> ikonia: there is nothing by the name of darkstat in var/run
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: that is a right mess
[18:57] <ikonia> on5sl: you're looking for upstart jobs
[18:57] <ikonia> on5sl: not the pid file
[18:58] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Really? LOL. I just thought it should be fixed properly when I use official Flash updates through Update Manager. Any suggestions what to do about the mess?
[18:58] <Pici> on5sl: it should have dropped something into /etc/init.d/darkstat and there is also /etc/darkstat/init.cfg which may need modification.
[18:58] <Chakravanti> where are alternate 12.10 torrents listed or are there none?
[18:58] <Chakravanti> not listed here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[18:58] <mazhar> hello
[18:58] <Pici> Chakravanti: There is not alternative disk for 12.10
[18:59] <on5sl> ikonia: it does have dropped something there :)
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1356148/
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: you have THREE flash plugins installed. This causes a conflict and you get nothing
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: those commands rip out all the flash plugins, then install adobe-flashplugin which is the only one you want. Close all browsers and relaunch to load the new plugin
[19:00] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Ah, that explains the mess. I am usually creating havoc, this is no understatement as you clearly see
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: FYI, Lucid is EOL in April 2013, you may want to upgrade soon
[19:01] <DrGrov> I close all my browsers just now and do those one by one.
[19:01] <ryan_> using lspci doesn't display my network controller, does this mean hardware failure?
[19:01] <Chakravanti> Pici, does 12.10 offer WDE on the live install? what do i use to install on a low resource system?
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> ryan_: try:  sudo lshw -C network
[19:01] <zackiv31> anyone here have an X1 Carbon?
[19:01] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Yes, I know. I am doing my final thesis though so I am not in the right mood now to install 12.04 yet. But I will do it. Thanks for remembering me about it.
[19:01] <ryan_> that only displays my ethernet, not wireless
[19:02] <Chakravanti> there's no way my netbook will handle a live install.  I have always needed alternate images. what am I to do with 12.10 for it?
[19:02] <Pici> Chakravanti: I'm not sure what WDE is.  If you trying to install a customizable install, the minimal install image offers that.
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: oh for sure, if time isn't a luxury I wouldn't upgrade. EVen if my release was EOL
[19:02] <Pici> !minimal | Chakravanti
[19:02] <mazhar> can anyone tell, how to configure slapd
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> mazhar: http://www.debuntu.org/ldap-server-and-linux-ldap-clients
[19:03] <on5sl> ikonia: when i do ./darkstat start it does say start deamon and done. But it's not running afterwards...
[19:03] <Chakravanti> That should work then thanks Pici !
[19:03] <ikonia> on5sl: ok, so you'll need to work through the script
[19:04] <on5sl> ikonia: pff so this package sucks
[19:04] <on5sl> it should work by default imo
[19:04] <ikonia> on5sl: how do you know ?
[19:04] <on5sl> ikonia: why doesn't it start then?
[19:04] <ikonia> on5sl: it probably does, you may have a problem with your config for example
[19:04] <aleksandar22> anyone know how to link skype and empathy
[19:04] <aleksandar22> and chat with skype contacts from empathy 20:02:29
[19:04] <aleksandar22> I tried http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/run-skype-as-a-daemon-and-manage-it-from-empathy-in-ubuntu-11-04 20:02:44
[19:04] <aleksandar22> but in Ubuntu 12.10 20:02:48
[19:04] <FloodBot1> aleksandar22: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:04] <aleksandar22> emptahy uses ubuntu online accounts 20:02:56
[19:05] <on5sl> ikonia: i got to go now but thx for the help!
[19:05] <mazhar> i ahve also intalled LUMA, how to use that <ActionParsnip>
[19:05] <aleksandar22> sorry
[19:05] <aleksandar22> here is goes
[19:05] <aleksandar22> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1356165/
[19:05] <aleksandar22> it  goes*
[19:05] <FloodBot1> aleksandar22: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:07] <hceylan> Hello, having upgraded to 12.10 I am having problems with spell checker in browsers. Both Firefox and Chromium has no spell checker available.
[19:07] <hceylan> Anyone can confirm it is not me but generic error?
[19:10] <mike_papa> hey, I get really low resolution on 12.10 loading screen (the maroon, or whatever this color is, I'm a man. I recognize 7 colors ;), the one with Ubuntu 12.10 and dots changing colors. It's annoying. How can I change it? Boot cd has this nice high resolution screen...
[19:10] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: But I will get an external HDD to borrow for a while soon hopefully so I can copy over all my important documents and then install 12.04.
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: why do you not have a backup already?
[19:11] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: I just followed your kind instructions on the reinstallation of Flash. I am now testing it on Chromium.
[19:11] <aleksandar22> anyone willing to help me
[19:11] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Since I am a poor student, do not have enough money to buy an external HDD at the moment
[19:12] <mazhar> How to add 10 user accounts to your ldap server using *.ldif ? plz help me someone
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: dropbox is free for about 2GB. UbuntuOne is 5Gb free
[19:12] <killer> anyone able to run age of empire 3 warchiefs in crossover or wine
[19:12] <aleksandar22> DrGrov: And both have support for 500 mb increase per invitation :)
[19:12] <aleksandar22> killer: try wine hq
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> killer: did you check the appdb?
[19:13] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: I actually got an HTC One X so I get 20GB on Dropbox. I got it actually so I could easily transfer a few big files there of my backup.
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: especially the thesis ;)
[19:13] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: BTW, thanks for the Flash help. It is running now brilliantly.
[19:13] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Yes, especially that one LOL :)
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: no worries dude
[19:14] <magesing> Any mdadm gurus here?
[19:14] <killer> ActionParsnip:rated gold with wine 1.4
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> killer: scroll down, there will be a how to to make it ok
[19:14] <aleksandar22> killer: That's good
[19:14] <shojo> aleksandar22: im willing, not sure if able :)
[19:14] <DrGrov> Any big fans of Football Manager here and testing FM with Wine?
[19:14] <shojo> but ill try
[19:14] <aleksandar22> shojo: cool
[19:15] <shojo> just state your problem, then if people know the answer ,they tell you... That's how it works
[19:15] <aleksandar22> I already did :D
[19:16] <aleksandar22> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1356165/
[19:16] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Are you up to help with a small other issue I have with Synaptic/Update Manager?
[19:16] <mazhar> How to add 10 user accounts to your ldap server using *.ldif ? plz help me someone
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: ask away, i've not got long
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> mazhar: tried in #ldap too ?
[19:16] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: I have a libreoffice library file that it wants to update but it refuses to update so it keeps hanging on there for ever and it is not an irritation but it still picks my eyes every time I do some updating.
[19:16] <dimitri> salve ieri l'altro ubuntu è passato dalla 3.5.0.17 alla 3.5.0.18 ed ora non parte più la grafica e mi chiede di andare in grafic low ma poi si blocca. per farlo partire debbo mettere a mano la 3.5.0.17 come risolvo ?
[19:17] <aleksandar22> DrGrov: I fixed a similar proble mby installing a package which depends on the problematic package. Boost in my case.
[19:17] <jrib> !it | dimitri
[19:17] <mazhar> yes, it should be a script
[19:18] <aleksandar22> shojo: ?
[19:18] <DrGrov> aleksandar22: Okay, it might have been left out for some reason.
[19:18] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: So here goes the text again.
[19:18] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: I have a libreoffice library file that it wants to update but it refuses to update so it keeps hanging on there for ever and it is not an irritation but it still picks my eyes every time I do some updating.
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: close the updater and run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade      pastebin the text please
[19:18] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Will do.
[19:20] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1356194/
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: looks fine..one package kept back which will come down once its deps are met in the repos
[19:21] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Okay, no worries then. It is picking it from a LibreOffice PPA since I wanted to have LibreOffice instead of OpenOffice.
[19:21] <ses1984> i'm trying to install
[19:22] <ses1984> ubuntu on a machine, the live cd works fine, but after installing and rebooting i see a message that unable to set mode on crtc
[19:23] <insmod_> my flash in full screen is small?
[19:23] <ses1984> i've tried to add nomodeset to /etc/default/grub and i continue to have the same problem
[19:23] <hhhzzzarn> http://askubuntu.com/questions/216825/recovering-deleted-ext4-ubuntu-partitions-using-testdisk-none-partition-media-t
[19:24] <hhhzzzarn> ses1984, what is your problem again? no GUI (black screen and text mode on boot)?
[19:25] <ryan_> I have downloaded a driver for my Wireless COntroller, I know that it is located in Firefox's Downloads folder. How do I install this step-by-step?
[19:26] <hhhzzzarn> ryan, is it a .deb file?
[19:26] <ses1984> hhhzzzarn: yes, in ctrl-alt-f7 it just says '...failed to set mode on [CRTC:10]' whenever i try to do something but i can log in via text mode in any other screen like ctrl-alt-f1
[19:27] <ses1984> i have tried to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and nothing happens but it does send a '...failed to set mode on [crtc:10]' error to the f7 screen
[19:27] <hhhzzzarn> ses1984, what version of ubuntu is the problem occuring on? 12.10?
[19:27] <ryan_> it is a .zip
[19:27] <ses1984> 12.04 and 12.10 both. live cds work, reboot fails to get the gui going
[19:27] <BluesKaj> ryan_, it's most likely in ~/Downloads , are you sure you need this driver and not a kernel source driver (alreadyin ubuntu ,but not activated)  for your wifi ?
[19:28] <ses1984> i'm using a geforce 6150 integrated graphics which apparently is troublesome to a lot of people but none of the fixes i've tried have helped, like reconfigure xserver xorg or use nomodeset in /etc/default/grub
[19:29] <hhhzzzarn> ses1984, I was thinking of this other problem/bug where: only in ubunutu 12.10 the live cd nor the installed version of 12.10 would boot with gui. This is a problem with the graphics driver and 12.10.
[19:29] <ryan_> when i lspci, my wireless controller does not display although everything else does along with the ethernet controller.
[19:29] <hhhzzzarn> ses1984, that other problem was with intel gma.
[19:30] <ryan_> I am not sure if I already have the proper driver installed and just turned off or something
[19:30] <hhhzzzarn> need help with: http://askubuntu.com/questions/216825/recovering-deleted-ext4-ubuntu-partitions-using-testdisk-none-partition-media-t
[19:30] <zykotick9> ryan_: is you wireless a pci card?  or something usb?  lsusb for later
[19:30] <ses1984> i just tried to enter the command startx and it seemed to do something, but then went back to text mode, the last few lines might be relevant. it says "resize called 1920 1080" then on the next line
[19:30] <ryan_> it is pci
[19:30] <ses1984> xinit: connection to x server lost
[19:31] <ses1984> maybe it doesn't like that resolution or something like that?
[19:31] <hhhzzzarn> ryan_: sometime, your wireless is off by hardware switch (hold down the wireless switch on your laptop and try internet again. Also right-click on network icon and make sure "enable networking" and "enable wireless" is on.
[19:31] <ses1984> but i believe i had 1920x1080 in the live cd environment
[19:31] <moonvoniron> hello 'vrybody , looking for something who opens .mpx files please
[19:31] <ryan_> The physical wireless switch is "On" and I am able to connect via ethernet, my networking is enabled.
[19:32] <CoffeeIV> My libreoffice is complaining about not having a JVM.  What is the most standard, common jvm I can install ?  I'm on 12.04
[19:32] <BluesKaj> ses1984, have you updated and upgraded lately , that bugfix should be in the repos ..I had the same issue  afew days ago
[19:33] <hhhzzzarn> coffeeIV, openjdk-jre (go to software center and search for java)
[19:33] <moonvoniron> need to open a .mpx file , help please
[19:33] <CoffeeIV> hhhzzzarn: thanks !
[19:34] <Pici> moonvoniron: whats an mpx file?
[19:34] <holstein> moonvoniron: http://www.fileinfo.com/extension/mpx
[19:34] <moonvoniron> swifi.mpx
[19:34] <hhhzzzarn> ryan_ can not help you more at the moment.
[19:34] <Pici> moonvoniron: okay, but that doesn't tell me what that file is.
[19:34] <holstein> http://mpxj.sourceforge.net/ in particular
[19:37] <ryan_> How do I install a .zip file once I cd into the directory?
[19:37] <Mmike> Hi. Can I somehow 'split' notifications that come from pidgin from emails? I'd like to have separate icon for pidgin, is that possible?
[19:37] <Mmike> (i'm using ubuntu 12.04)
[19:38] <jrib> ryan_: what program are you trying to install exactly?
[19:38] <holstein> ryan_: there should be a read.me... it really depends on the package
[19:38] <Kart> if you mean unzipping a file, try the unzip command
[19:38] <ryan_> Not installing a program, merely Wireless Controller Drivers
[19:38] <ryan_> they are contained within a .zip
[19:38] <Derp> nem um brasileiro aki ?
[19:38] <holstein> i would unzip it... and see if there is a read.me
[19:39] <Pici> !br | Derp
[19:39] <Kart> ryan_: have you tried unzip
[19:39] <Sta1ker> hello, thunderbird doesn't recognizes firefox as default, checked /usr/share/applications/defaults.list, mimeinfo.cache, update-alternatives and all set to firefox
[19:39] <Sta1ker> hello, thunderbird doesn't recognizes firefox as default, checked /usr/share/applications/defaults.list, mimeinfo.cache, update-alternatives and all set to firefox can anyone help?
[19:39] <X2_BI> hi guys, whats the difference between starting a additional qcoreapplication or a qeventloop ?
[19:40] <ryan_> There is an install.sh within the zip that has a ton of technical information.
[19:40] <Star_Light> is there any room about Mathematics?
[19:41] <jrib> Star_Light: ##math
[19:41] <Star_Light> thank you
[19:41] <jrib> ryan_: what drivers...?  What wireless card...?
[19:42] <Sta1ker> hello, thunderbird doesn't recognizes firefox as default, checked /usr/share/applications/defaults.list, mimeinfo.cache, update-alternatives and all set to firefox can anyone help?
[19:43] <ryan_> I am unable to view my Wireless Controller using lspci, I have looked up the manufacturer's specs and found the drivers online. I am looking to install them and have opened the .zip file within which is an install.sh
[19:44] <juggernat> alguem que fala minha lingua ai ?
[19:44] <jrib> !pt | juggernat
[19:44] <moonvoniron> pdfcreatorsetup.exe doesn'r want to open,help please
[19:45] <bekks> moonvoniron: You cant run windows .exe files on Ubuntu.
[19:45] <jrib> moonvoniron: why don't you use an application from the repositories?  .exe are meant for windows
[19:46] <jrib> Sta1ker: did you check the user-specific versions of those files?
[19:46] <Kart> hello ryan..if you are aware that the zip file has been downloaded from a trusted source .. just run ./install.sh
[19:46] <Kart> and see what you get
[19:46] <Kart> ryan_: if there are any errors, copy to paste bin and post a link
ok ok thank you,what means repositories? I'm french
[19:47] <jrib> !software | moonvoniron
[19:48] <Sta1ker> jrib: where are those?
[19:48] <moonvoniron> thank you !
[19:48] <jrib> Sta1ker: ~/.local/share/applications/defaults.list, ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list, you should also check what opens when you run x-www-browser
[19:49] <jrib> Sta1ker: there's also gnome-www-browser, what opens when you run that?
[19:50] <Anaphaxeton>  i am using parted to recover a lost ntfs partition. i type rescue and i am asked for the area that needs to be searched. i want parted to search from the beggining (0) till the end. how do i designate the end? i dont know what the actuall number would be
[19:50] <komputes> moonvoniron: A server that holds packages available for download "depot de logiciel"
[19:50] <komputes> moonvoniron: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[19:50] <moonvoniron> thank you :)
[19:50] <Sta1ker> jrib: seems ok
[19:51] <jrib> Sta1ker: too vague of an answer
[19:51] <Xeli> Does anyone know how to 'fix' the buggy wpa2 enterprise support(eduroam) on 12.04?
[19:53] <Sta1ker> jrib: all files seems ok. thunderbird is not. i'll try chromium for a sec
[19:53] <jrib> Sta1ker: so what opens when you run x-www-browser?  What happens when you run gnome-www-browser?
[19:55] <moonvoniron> i'm lost
[19:55] <Danielss89> if i have a command "leerory" that i want to keep running, when the server starts and start again if it stops.. what program would i use?
[19:56] <jrib> Danielss89: upstart
[19:56] <jrib> !upstart | Danielss89
[19:56] <jrib> Danielss89: see the cookbook
[19:56] <Danielss89> thx
[19:56] <jrib> Danielss89: you may be interested in "respawn"
[19:56] <jrib> moonvoniron: about?
[19:58] <Strategos> Heya hiya.
[19:58] <Danielss89> jrib: can i install it without breaking anything? :D
[19:58] <Danielss89> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[19:58] <Danielss89>   sysvinit
[19:58] <jrib> Danielss89: what ubuntu version is this...?
[19:59] <Danielss89> how can i check that ? xD
[19:59] <jrib> Danielss89: lsb_release -c
[19:59] <Danielss89> squeeze
[19:59] <jrib> Danielss89: that's debian, not ubuntu
[19:59] <zykotick9> Danielss89: squeeze is debian...
[19:59] <Danielss89> wtf.. lol
[19:59] <Danielss89> i'm on the wrong server xD
[20:00] <theadmin> Danielss89: Wrong channel, more of
[20:00] <moonvoniron> how to go on the ubuntu oftware center ?
[20:00] <Danielss89> theadmin: no i'm asking for my ubuntu server :D
[20:00] <moonvoniron> mine is uninstalled
[20:00] <Danielss89> i just ssh'ed to the wrong server
[20:00] <theadmin> moonvoniron: sudo apt-get install software-center then
[20:00] <jrib> moonvoniron: you run "software-center" in a terminal and what happens?
[20:00] <Danielss89> jrib: ok, the version is precise
[20:01] <jrib> Danielss89: you should already have upstart
[20:01] <narcos> Doh, connection dropped. Not sure if anyone answered me re the GSM modem sending SMSs ?
[20:01] <moonvoniron> thank you :)
[20:01] <jrib> narcos: I don't even see your question in my scrollback
[20:01] <narcos> jrib: Hm, maybe my connection timed out before you saw it, lemme repaste
[20:02] <narcos>  
[20:02] <narcos> Hi all. I'm trying to get my Huawei GSM USB modem to send SMSs from Ubuntu. I've used usb_modeswitch to get it out of mass storage and into modem mode, and I have a /dev/ttyUSB[0-3]
[20:02] <narcos> I'm now trying sms_client - but I get timeout errors
[20:02] <narcos> I suspect when it tries to communicate with the modem
[20:02] <FloodBot1> narcos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:02] <narcos> Err - not sure if you got those 3 lines before FloodBot1 intervened
[20:03] <jrib> narcos: yes, but next time just use a '.' instead of the enter key
[20:03] <theadmin> narcos: We did. Don't Huawei modems come with their own driver software? iirc they have Linux support, although all connections have to be done through an ugly Java interface :/
[20:04] <narcos> theadmin: Er, I'm not sure at all
[20:04] <narcos> jrib: OK, sorry
[20:04] <ArcticLight> hi! This is going to sound really silly, but I think I need help filing a bug report on Launchpad.
[20:04] <Shihan> you could always try talking directly to the gsm modem via minicom with at commands and see what happens
[20:04] <theadmin> narcos: When I inserted my Huawei modem first, it was detected as /dev/sr1 (cd-rom device). I mounted that and installed the driver off there
[20:04] <Stuz719> narcos, theadmin - I think theadmin is right re Huawei stuff
[20:04] <hhhzzzarn> need advanced testdisk user
[20:05] <theadmin> ArcticLight: Normally you just do "ubuntu-bug packagename" from a commandline
[20:05] <moonvoniron>  Edit, Software Sources error
[20:05] <narcos> theadmin, Stuz719: OK - mine was noted as a mass storage device - I'll dig around in there and see if there are some drivers. What exactly would I be looking for? .ko files?
[20:06] <jrib> ArcticLight: you can also visit #ubuntu-bugs where they are basically dedicated to helping you file bugs
[20:06] <ArcticLight> theadmin: yes, I've got a .crash file, and I'm using ubuntu-bug, but when I press S to send the report, ubuntu-bug exits and I don't get the crash report page in my web browser...
[20:06] <theadmin> narcos: Ah no, if I recall right there was a "Linux" directory with an "install.sh" inside or somesuch
[20:06] <ArcticLight> jrib: Thanks, I'll check there.
[20:07] <theadmin> ArcticLight: Eh. Sounds like you don't have a default browser set, or it's set to a non-existing file
[20:07] <theadmin> ArcticLight: What desktop are you on?
[20:07] <narcos> theadmin: Great, thanks!
[20:07] <Stuz719> just done a g--gle for "huawei linux modem driver", try that. may come as a deb or rpm or sh script
[20:07] <jrib> why do you censor "google"...
[20:07]  * narcos goes  hunting
[20:08] <Stuz719> for the lulz. maybe I should have said Bing ha ha#
[20:08] <theadmin> narcos: You *may* need to copy all the files in "Linux" to a local directory due to the fact that the filesystem on the modem is read-only
[20:08] <theadmin> I don't remember if I needed that
[20:08] <ArcticLight> theadmin: I'm on ubuntu 12.10 (64 bit) on a laptop. Until just recently, ubuntu-bug worked correctly and would open reports in Chrome, which I have installed.
[20:08] <Snicers-Work2> When I pull from a source server to my local server using  --perms and sudo it does not retain ther source permissions. Am I doing something wrong?
[20:08] <Snicers-Work2> this is with rsync
[20:08] <AcidRain2012> is there any software for linux that will allow you to read text from an image? what im wanting to do is read the text on the back of a lottery ticket, and on the front. so i dont have to type out 2000 tickets
[20:09] <moonvoniron> how to run edit-software source ? please
[20:09] <Stuz719> acidrain you mean OCR stuff?
[20:09] <theadmin> AcidRain2012: There's "gimagereader"
[20:09] <theadmin> AcidRain2012: But I can't guarantee you the results will be great
[20:09] <AcidRain2012> Stuz719: correct
[20:09] <Shihan> i have a huawei modem myself, it didnt require anything special to talk to it tho
[20:09] <Lisbeth> Hello.
[20:09] <moonvoniron> how to run edit-software source ? please
[20:10] <theadmin> moonvoniron: gksudo software-properties-gtk
[20:10] <Stuz719> acidrain: tricky depends on font etc. try gimagereader as theadmin says... I think acrobat used to include OCR functionality...
[20:10] <moonvoniron> thank you :)
[20:10] <Stuz719> but so long since i used it i can't remember
[20:10] <theadmin> moonvoniron: Or just "sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list"
[20:10] <theadmin> Stuz719: You're thinking of ABBYY Finereader
[20:10] <theadmin> Stuz719: Adobe never had any OCR...
[20:11] <Stuz719> theadmin: you sure? convinced that acrobat had it... so long since i used it tho i cud be wrong
[20:11] <theadmin> Stuz719: Oh Acrobat Reader, I'm not using that since version... 5? came out... Switched to Okular/Evince
[20:12] <Stuz719> theadmin: nah, full acrobat. had some nice features but ultimately even the security features (sigs etc.) cud be bypassed by using other s/ware
[20:12] <lastleo85> chrome or ubuntu os?
[20:12] <moonvoniron> it tells me "erreur logiciel"
[20:13] <theadmin> moonvoniron: Well that's not English so I can't read that
[20:13] <moonvoniron> permission invalide
[20:13] <Stuz719> theadmin: i think it means "logical error" ;-)
[20:13] <farciarz84> hi, is the unity bar movable to bottom in 12.10?
[20:13] <theadmin> Stuz719: Which makes no sense
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> i speak french, it means software error
[20:13] <farciarz84> I have 4:5 proportion on my screen
[20:14] <Stuz719> theadmin: unless you enter TRUE != TRUE or something?!
[20:14] <moonvoniron> yes logical !
[20:14] <theadmin> Stuz719: That's not an error... (True != True) == False
[20:14] <Stuz719> sad... just read "rastamouse is now known as nothingspecial". What would Wensley Dale say?
[20:14] <theadmin> Stuz719: Just some crazy mashup
[20:15] <nothingspecial> Stuz719: lol
[20:15] <Stuz719> theadmin: depends on which logic you're using ;-)
[20:15] <crackerjackz> what is the name of the program "movie player" in ubuntu?
[20:15] <farciarz84> hi, is the unity deskbar movable to bottom in 12.10?
[20:15] <jrib> crackerjackz: totem
[20:15] <crackerjackz> jrib: ty
[20:15] <T|ASK> Hi since I upgraded some PCs to12.10 they are pretty slow and they are getting even slower the longer the system is up. Any suggestions how to solve this?
[20:15] <moonvoniron> CPMMAND NOT FOUND
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> guys, logiciel means program or software -- logical = logiquement in frech
[20:16] <Stuz719> cheers monkeydust :-)
[20:16] <blackness> T|ASK, with that statement, you dont exactly explain exactly whats wrong..
[20:16] <blackness> what did you upgrade from T|ASK ?
[20:17] <AcidRain2012> ah. did anyone ever figure anything about about the OCR?
[20:17] <AcidRain2012> my comp timedout
[20:17] <T|ASK> blackness: I upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and focusing windows takes up to 2 seconds
[20:17] <blackness> Did you install a updated nividia driver?
[20:17] <blackness> nvidia*
[20:18] <moonvoniron> Software error when i want to do any things !
[20:18] <T|ASK> blackness:  yes, on my system I updated to the newest one 310
[20:18] <Stuz719> acidrain google suggests tesseract
[20:18] <spajderix> I really need help because this really blew my mind just now. I have external hdd encrypted with luks, unmounted it somewhere around an hour ago and password doesn't work anymore. Check on other pc and same effect. Does anyone have any idea of what happend and how to turn it back?
[20:18] <blackness> have you ran a simple benchmark? or checked top for a run away process?
[20:19] <T|ASK> blackness: but I use bumblebee, and it's running Intel chip right now, but is still slow
[20:19] <blackness> i dont know what bumblebee is, let me google.
[20:19] <moonvoniron> Software error please help me
[20:19] <InTheZone> Hey. I just installed Ubuntu 12.10 with the Windows Installer. Everything went well, and now on Start Up when it prompts me to choose an operating system, after I select Ubuntu the screen goes black. I waited for a couple of minutes but nothing ever changes
[20:19] <zykotick9> blackness: bumblebee is for hybrid graphics setups
[20:19] <theadmin> > windows installer
[20:19] <theadmin> > everything went well
[20:19] <blackness> T|ASK, bumblebee is supported up to 12.04..did you know this?
[20:19] <theadmin> I doubt it
[20:19] <T|ASK> bumblebee.org
[20:20] <theadmin> InTheZone: Is your Windows system 64-bit?
[20:20] <InTheZone> no 32 bit
[20:20] <Stuz719> inthezone sounds like you're lacking vid drivers. had the same myself and had to step from 10.10 thru 11.04 to 11.10. Not fun
[20:20] <theadmin> InTheZone: Apparently WUBI doesn't work with 32-bit anymore for some insane reason and they never even warned anyone :/
[20:20] <moonvoniron> can someone help me?
[20:20] <theadmin> InTheZone: I have the same thing and dunno if I can help. I suggest doing a proper install
[20:21] <Stuz719> spajderix: how did you umount?
[20:21] <linux> problems: velocity of ubuntu in the virtual machine and ocr no function
[20:21] <Stuz719> moonvoniron: anything?
[20:21] <T|ASK> blackness: I can't imagine, because it's just switching graphic drivers on demand. I suppose, they just didn't update the info?!
[20:21] <InTheZone> I heard you can do something in the GRUB, like writing some code and stuff.
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> linux  that may virtualbox related, not ubuntu related
[20:22] <Stuz719> linux: what spec if machine you're running ubuntu in a VM?
[20:22] <spajderix> Stuz719: Well I just shut down my laptop and unplugged the hdd
[20:22] <ArcticLight> I'm still having trouble filing this bug and #ubuntu-bugs is silent. Any ideas?
[20:22] <T|ASK> blackness: also, the other system is a normal PC (no bumblebee) but standard NVidia running with same issues
[20:22] <Stuz719> did you umount first?
[20:22] <Stuz719> spajderix: i guess it's USB?
[20:24] <Strategos> Does anyone know of a decent printer/scanner (preferably network based) printer that'll work in Ubuntu 12.04?  My searches result in minimal success.
[20:24] <Stuz719> spajderix: can you see the drive when you plug it in?
[20:24] <Stuz719> strategoc: home use- try Epson 435SX
[20:25] <Stuz719> strategos: sorry Epson 435SX
[20:25] <Strategos> Stuz719: I'll look at that.  Thanks.
[20:25] <spajderix> Stuz719: Positive, it asks for pasword and shows me a message that there's no available key for a given one
[20:25] <dr_willis> need to look into one of those myself...
[20:25] <Stuz719> Strategos: may identify as a 430SX
[20:26] <spajderix> Stuz719: I also tried to open it up from terminal with cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdc1 encr, but same effect
[20:26] <Stuz719> spajderix: try umounting it and then remounting
[20:26] <T|ASK> Is this ok? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1356382/
[20:26] <Stuz719> spajderix: no available key sounds... bad
[20:27] <T|ASK> Looks like my system is running the INtel graphics chip... but why do I have these performance issues?
[20:27] <spajderix> Stuz719: I've unplugged it and plugged it back if that's what you mean, I could try to reboot if it's going to help
[20:28] <Stuz719> spajderix: reboots often work miracles :-) but be careful of trying hotplugging it. I know USB is supposed to be resilient but.....
[20:28] <MonkeyDust> T|ASK  try removing old kernels and sudo apt-get autoremove obsolote packages
[20:28] <MonkeyDust> T|ASK  try removing old kernels and sudo apt-get autoremove to delete obsolote packages*
[20:29] <spajderix> Stuz719: ok, I'll try the reboot and get right back here
[20:30] <Stuz719> hope it works out for spajderix
[20:31] <T|ASK> MonkeyDust: ok
[20:31] <yello> Hellow hellow, anyone know how to unlock an external hard drive with pass (hdparm). Problem is, it doesnt recognize USER. I try --user-master marcus, and it says "User=master", I try --user-marcus and it says "User=user", its ridiculus..
[20:31] <ArcticLight> Still having trouble with ubuntu-bug, and #ubuntu-bugs isn't helping (it's silent)
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> T|ASK  is internet slow, or the whole pc?
[20:32] <hhhzzzarn> need advanced help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/216825/recovering-deleted-ext4-ubuntu-partitions-using-testdisk-none-partition-media-t
[20:33] <yello> Hellow hellow, anyone know how to unlock an external hard drive with pass (hdparm). Problem is, it doesnt recognize USER. I try --user-master marcus, and it says "User=master", I try --user-marcus and it says "User=user", its ridiculus..
[20:33] <T|ASK> MonkeyDust: I just can say that focusing a window takes up to 2 seconds ... internet is ok
[20:34] <yello> plz? or i might install windows.. then its byee ubuntu :{
[20:34] <T|ASK> MonkeyDust: and the longer the system is up the slower it gets
[20:34] <T|ASK> MonkeyDust: but 2 seconds is after runnnign the system for a whole day eg
[20:34] <Stuz719> yello: that's a bit extreme - have you tried parted magic or similar?
[20:35] <yello> it has an "Unlock.exe" that doesnt work with wine, i googled only way is hdparm..
[20:35] <yello> im not sure gparted or anything will solve :[
[20:36] <Xix19> how can I pass images continuously to ffmpeg and have it stream as webm?
[20:36] <yello> any clue?
[20:36] <yello> its a western digital drive...
[20:36] <Stuz719> yello: hmmm... sounds a tricky one.
[20:38] <Stuz719> yello: why would gparted or parted magic not work? they include hdparm
[20:38] <Jordan_U> hhhzzzarn: Why did you select the option for a non partitioned disk?
[20:38] <Stuz719> yello: according to wikipedia anyway
[20:38] <Stuz719> spajdxerix: any joy?
[20:38] <yello> ok, so how do i do? + is it dangerous?
[20:38] <Stuz719> spajderix: any joy?
[20:38] <spajderix> Stuz719: not a bit :/
[20:39] <Strategos> :\
[20:39] <spajderix> now that sucks big times
[20:39] <Stuz719> yello: need a live CD/USB of relevant distro. And yes, playing with HDDs is always dangerous. Read the instructions. Read them again. And then read them again. back everything up. Check your backup works. Do it again. And then execute the command.
[20:40] <hhhzzzarn> Jordan_u because I just tried and I saw my parititons listed in quick search
[20:40] <yello> kk, but i rather download virtualbox tomorrow, and run password unlock on windows
[20:40] <yello> just wanted an iso b4 i sleep, but nvm:D bye, and thanks;]]
[20:41] <Stuz719> spajderix: Grrr. Frustrating. I'm afraid I'm at the limits of my knowledge here... sorry :-(
[20:41] <Stuz719> spajderix: other than trying a live distro to try and access and back up the files elsewhere
[20:41] <Jordan_U> hhhzzzarn: How much do you care about getting the data back and how much do you care about having a working system?
[20:42] <uponatree> why does iconv 2.15 convert ö, ü, ä to o, u, a instead of oe, ue, ae? while iconv in version 2.11 on debian is fine...
[20:42] <spajderix> Stuz719: no problem, thanks for your time man, kudos, I'm almost sure that the important data sits some other place one of my machines
[20:42] <binary_glitch> hello, apparently the ubuntu community just jumps right on the logon channel? well hello everyone.
[20:42] <spajderix> Stuz719: Yeah I tried another machine just a second ago with some older ubu/kernel with the same effect so no update did it
[20:42] <Stuz719> spajderix: YVW - hope it was of help. And at the risk of stating the obvious, here's a salutory lesson in data management. Back everything up. Test your backup. Then do it again. And then encrpyt!
[20:43] <Stuz719> Afraid I've got to go all. Thanks for having me along. See you all again soon.
[20:44] <binary_glitch> I'm having an issue with Hydra/xHydra and the lack of ssh2 anyone care to take a crack at helping me figure it out?
[20:44] <Stuz719> \quit
[20:45] <Jordan_U> hhhzzzarn: My guess is that what is happening is that you have a configuration which can't currently be represented with an msdos partition table (needs more than 4 primary partitions or a second extended partition, neither of which is possible), and that is why testdisk isn't showing the lost partitions when using the "Intel" option (which is a terrible name for the option, IMHO).
[20:45] <BluPhenix316> hey guys i got ubuntu 12.10 installed, and I installed xubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop, fine(i just want to try out the different DEs), but when I installed kubuntu-desktop apt-get gets to Updating Initramfs and just hangs there and does nothing
[20:46] <binary_glitch> anyone?
[20:46] <hhhzzzarn> Jordan_U: ok. I don't care about the data on those because I could recover the data alone, I wanted to recover the partition so I don't have to install my programs again, do everything again.
[20:46] <BluPhenix316> i finally closed the terminal, changed initramfs.conf to not update and ran sudo dpkg --configure -a, but is there something seriously wrong? i've reinstalled and tried it again and its the samething, it hangs on updating initramfs
[20:47] <BluPhenix316> or is this a question for #kubuntu?
[20:47] <uponatree> hey guys, why does iconv 2.15 convert ö, ü, ä to o, u, a instead of oe, ue, ae? while iconv in version 2.11 on debian is fine...
[20:47] <sysadamin> if i was buying a graphics card for a htpc, running ubuntu - AMD / ATI?
[20:47] <sysadamin> which is prefereable / better supported
[20:47] <Strategos> Uponatree: Those are the English equivalents.
[20:48] <Strategos> Err, sorry - misread.  Disregard.
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> binary_glitch  technically, your question is for this channel, but a distro like backtrack is specialized in network intrusion - guess you better ask there, but mind: it is not supported here
[20:48] <Jordan_U> hhhzzzarn: Well, I can't help you there then. If you want the data, you can probably choose to have testdisk treat the disk as GPT, but that will break Windows (irreparably) and Ubuntu (temporarily).
[20:48] <uponatree> Strategos: but why does the Debian version work fine? do I have to change some language settings?
[20:48] <zykotick9> uponatree: newer/less tested version i'd guess.  search/file a bug.
[20:48] <Macphisto> Has anyone had any successing using pbuilder and getting past a "failed to connect to MYSQL: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'" error during a build for a package?  The package's tests attempt a connection.
[20:49] <uponatree> zykotick9: thanks, I'll have a look over there
[20:49] <Macphisto> successing... not a word.  cripes.
[20:50] <hhhzzzarn> Jordan_U, I will just go ahead and reinstall the ubuntu, thank you anyways
[20:50] <binary_glitch> blackbox... and nobody's on our official channel plus we're on an italian server... I'm american, I don't speak italian, I don't even speak english, I speak american, and 5 other languages.... but no It.
[20:50] <Strategos> Uponatree: I presume you would need to change them.  But I misread your question initially; I didn't see that you had typed "o, u, a instead" for whatever reason.
[20:50] <Jordan_U> hhhzzzarn: You're welcome.
[20:51] <Strategos> Uponatree: As for myself, I'm still tinkering with trying to figure out how to actually make umlauts and accent marks. :)
[20:51] <binary_glitch> anyone else interested in my question?
[20:53] <MonkeyDust> binary_glitch  as soon as someone else has an answer, they will most probably help you - repeat your question every 15 minutes or so
[20:53] <thibaut> Hi
[20:53] <Strategos> Heya hiya.
[20:53] <uponatree> Strategos: I had a look at the LANG var it states "C.UTF-8" on the Ubuntu system and "de_DE.UTF-8" on the Debian system. Then I changed the LANG var but the iconv output didn't change
[20:54] <chaingun> binary_glitch: what problem are you having specifically?
[20:54] <binary_glitch> okay... yeah this whole one channel on the server... everyone talks about everything is strange to me... oober busy to get herd...lol
[20:54] <binary_glitch> I'm having an issue with Hydra/xHydra and the lack of ssh2 anyone care to take a crack at helping me figure it out?
[20:54] <chaingun> what issue
[20:54] <chaingun> specifically
[20:54] <thibaut> I would like to know where to save yelp help pages so that they show up in Yelp under: Go -> All Documents
[20:55] <binary_glitch> Hydra doesnt take ssh2 option, so I looked in xHydra, and it's not in the dropdown menu... wtf?
[20:56] <puggle12> guys off topic but does anyone know a quick way to edit a price list in word to add $50 to each price automatically?
[20:56] <binary_glitch> I want to know how to get it back w/o downgrading a whole release ...
[20:56] <chaingun> so it was working in the past?
[20:56] <SeNO_> hel p plz
[20:56] <chaingun> and you updated
[20:56] <chaingun> and now it isn't?
[20:57] <binary_glitch> on blackbox 2 yes, now on blackbox 3 no
[20:57] <SeNO_> i tried installing ubuntu from usb but when it comes to the partition choose page it crashes without any partitions appearing
[20:59] <binary_glitch> SeNO_>I'v had that same isue before let me look at my install issue records and see how i fixed it... what's your basic spex/
[20:59] <tziOm> What is the proper way to add mount options for proc in 12.10?
[20:59] <chaingun> did you compile for source or install via some package maanger?
[20:59] <binary_glitch> It comes pre installed
[21:00] <binary_glitch> it's like bt, it's a pen-test'n distro'
[21:00] <chaingun> oh
[21:00] <SeNO_> binary_glitch im totally noob
[21:00] <chaingun> do you have it installed or are you running off a live CD?
[21:00] <chaingun> If you have it installed, I'd make sure I had the latest version
[21:01] <chaingun> and if the version available from the package manager isn't the latest, I'd grab the source and compile it myself. I believe the problem you are having is related to hydra not being compiled with LIBSSH support
[21:01] <binary_glitch> SeNO_>okay while I try to find a record of how I solved a simular issue, why dont you tell us about your hardware specifications.
[21:02] <SeNO_> i guess rthe problem can be with my hard disks as there are two 500 hdd and 32 sd
[21:03] <SeNO_> processor intel i5 3317u
[21:03] <SeNO_> ddr3 4 gb ram
[21:03] <SeNO_> intel hd4000
[21:03] <binary_glitch> I couldn't see why it wouldn't be set up with libssh support, and I do have the op for ssh, just not ssh2... but I'm dl'dng hydra now... just incase.
[21:04] <bekks> binary_glitch: You are still using ssh1?!
[21:04] <SeNO_> binary_glitch , sorry i didnt get anything from what u were saying
[21:05] <binary_glitch> lol it is setup by default...lol but I had support for both in bb2
[21:05] <bekks> binary_glitch: ssh1 is... outdated, insecury, messy. Dont use it. Dont. Never. Even if the world stops turning.
[21:06] <binary_glitch> oh, I'm also trying to find a solution to a password cracker for myself... lol
[21:07] <pradeep_> bekks, lol at "Even if the world stops turning."
[21:07] <booboo64985> Do you think the you could run a password cracker on a android proclaim? Theres gotta be a way to root it.
[21:07] <binary_glitch> oh, SeNO_  I found my notes... do you have imos sata sdd controler on your systemboard?
[21:07] <BluPhenix316> ok i tried some things and now i can be more specific
[21:08] <BluPhenix316> when i try sudo update-initramfs -uv it hangs at Adding module /lib/modules/3.5.0-18-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/vmwgfx/vmwgfx.ko
[21:08] <BluPhenix316> anyidea how to fix this?
[21:08] <chaingun> booboo64985: rooting the phone isn't just a matter of cracking the root account's (if it even exists) password
[21:09] <booboo64985> write just curious if the sbc code was there somewhere where you could run a number crunch or something.
[21:11] <BluPhenix316> how can i remove vmwgfx.ko from initramfs? i'm now using vmware
[21:12] <Snicers-Work2> Can you use Linux ftp command to transfer only changed files?
[21:12] <LucaPuca> Hi
[21:12] <pradeep_> BluPhenix316, is your vmware licensed?
[21:12] <coin3d> hi there. when setting up a software raid 1, should i create two partitions with the full disk size first, or directly use /dev/sda and /dev/sdb for that raid array?
[21:12] <cherr> anyone know a repository with some useful third party software packages for a newly installed ubuntu system?
[21:12] <BluPhenix316> pradeep_: I don't have vmware installed
[21:12] <chaingun> BluPhenix316: try removing that module from the area where update-initramfs is pulling them from
[21:12] <BluPhenix316> i'm running this natively
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> Snicers-Work2  you can with rsync -vv -- it's called 'incremental'
[21:13] <pradeep_> okAY
[21:13] <Snicers-Work2> I am needing to push code to a windows server from linux, but I want to do it without pushing unchanged files, rsync is out.
[21:13] <pradeep_> BluPhenix316, just a honest question
[21:13] <runixo> heyas. In Quental, I would like dnsmasq to use the DNSs provided by the ISP as upstream servers, how can I do this?
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> Snicers-Work2  ok
[21:14] <mens> Are working FN + F4 command in ubuntu 10.04? (switch monitor)?
[21:14] <mens> What is the name of command in keyboard shortcuts?
[21:15] <BluPhenix316> hmm i removed it now it is hanging at adding module sis.ko
[21:15] <chaingun> did you rebuild your kernel?
[21:15] <BluPhenix316> no
[21:15] <chaingun> are you sure it is actually hanging?
[21:15] <chaingun> and not just taking a while?
[21:15] <jkbbwr> how can I let a normal user listen to port 80
[21:15] <BluPhenix316> well the first time, i let it sit there for a hour and it didn't get anywhere
[21:16] <chaingun> ok something is definitely up then
[21:16] <BluPhenix316> well i know what causes the problem sort of
[21:16] <BluPhenix316> i'm using ubuntu 12.10 and it happens when i install kubuntu-desktop
[21:16] <Honvai> http://www.linuxassist.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=23
[21:16] <cje2> hi,
[21:17] <BluPhenix316> i've reinstalled ubuntu 12.10 and it happens again if i install kubuntu-desktop
[21:17] <BluPhenix316> guess i'm not suppose to mix them eh?
[21:17] <pradeep_> BluPhenix316, using kubuntu 12.04
[21:17] <pradeep_> so use to gnome
[21:17] <mens> HELP, FN + F4 question!
[21:18] <cje2> Hi, you can get Ubuntu necklaces and earrings here for Christmas if you like.  I do not benefit from this program.  Proceeds go to putting Ubuntu computers in needy public schools:  http://blog.partimus.org/?p=414
[21:18] <BluPhenix316> pradeep_: well i'me experimenting with what DE I like the best
[21:18] <pradeep_> sorry what is DE
[21:18] <pradeep_> ?
[21:18] <BluPhenix316> i've gotten kinda use to unity but i'm still a fan of xfce, but i haven't tried lxde or kde(last time i used KDE was back in the 90s)
[21:18] <BluPhenix316> Desktop Environment
[21:19] <BluPhenix316> well more specifically unity and gnome-shell are shells for the GNOME DE
[21:19] <mens> FN + F4 command in ubuntu 10.04?
[21:19] <cje2> BluPhenix316, we use LXDE and Unity in public schools we support with Ubuntu computers (We = Partimus.org)
[21:19] <mens> Name in keyboard shortcuts...
[21:20] <SeNo_> sorry got dc
[21:20] <chaingun> BluPhenix316: are you specifying the correct kernel version when doing update-initramfs?
[21:20] <BluPhenix316> but this initramfs problem is bugging me, usually I can narrow it down to either figure out exactly where the problem is but i'm stumped
[21:20] <BluPhenix316> chaingun: i'm just doing a sudo update-initramfs -uv
[21:21] <pradeep_> i have dropped ubuntu for linux mint
[21:21] <pradeep_> using linux mint mate
[21:22] <BluPhenix316> chaingun: i did a sudo update-initramfs -uvk 3.5.0-18 and it finished but there was some errors
[21:22] <BluPhenix316> FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/3.5.0-18/modules.dep: No such file or directory
[21:22] <BluPhenix316> i think that is because i changed MODULES=most to MODULES=dep in initramfs.conf
[21:23] <BluPhenix316> nope changed it and same error
[21:24] <cje2> Is there anyone here in the SF Bay Area who would like to meet IRL to discuss what Partimus.org is doing with Ubuntu in public schools?
[21:25] <Pepote> WWW.JIZZDAY.COM
[21:25] <Pepote> WWW.JIZZDAY.COM
[21:25] <FloodBot1> Pepote: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:25] <BluPhenix316> chaingun: i figured out how to fix the problem, just don't install kubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu hehe
[21:25] <k1l> cje2: that issue woul suit better in #ubuntu-offtopic . or the locochannel from SF
[21:25] <Veryhappy> Hi guys. I can't get compiz fusion get to run
[21:25] <chaingun> BluPhenix316: I don't like that answer lol. There is no reason why it shouldn't work
[21:26] <alusion> What's a good platform for VOIP communication via android / PC / IOS
[21:26] <k1l> Veryhappy: which desktop are you running and why would you start compiz fusion=
[21:26] <k1l> ?
[21:26] <BluPhenix316> chaingun: well other than that problem everything works fine
[21:26] <MonkeyDust> pradeep_  Desktop Environment
[21:27] <cje2> k1l, thanks for the tip. I put it here because all we use in the public schools we support is Ubuntu.  It is quite exciting, so I thought that ppl here might be stoked to learn that Ubuntu is making it into public schools
[21:27] <BluPhenix316> ah i think i might also know what the problem is
[21:27] <pradeep_> MonkeyDust, i got that
[21:27] <BluPhenix316> all the kernel modules that are causing this problem i installed from x-edgers
[21:27] <cje2> k1l, Where is the local Ubuntu channel, do you happen to know?
[21:27] <Veryhappy> K1l I use kde and I thought that I'd have to use compiz fusion to get advanced effects like water and fire effects and the popular cube
[21:28] <k1l> Veryhappy: no, kde got own stuff for that
[21:28] <k1l> (as far as i know, im not using kde myselv)
[21:28] <BluPhenix316> kde has it's own compositing manager
[21:29] <BluPhenix316> unity, gnome-shell and I think xfce and lxde use GNOME as the backend so you can use compiz with them, but KDE is a completely different enviornment
[21:29] <Veryhappy> K1l oh, ok how do I get that? I have the proprietary driver for my graphics already installed. What to do now?
[21:30] <alusion> Is Tango available for ubuntu
[21:30] <Lachezar> Hello all... I am having trouble with Xubuntu, ssh-agent, ssh-add and pkcs11 library. That is after running 12.10. Was OK in 12.04 :(
[21:31] <SeNo_>  i tried installing ubuntu from usb but when it comes to the partition choose page it crashes without any partitions appearing, help plz
[21:32] <jCuber> SeNo_: tried installing from a live-cd?
[21:32] <BluPhenix316> hmm this is annoying, you can use a metapackage like kubuntu-desktop to install everything but it you remove kubuntu-desktop it just removes the metapackage not the packages that it installed
[21:33] <Lachezar> BluPhenix316: Doesn't autoremove remove the left-overs?
[21:33] <SeNo_> jcuber what is live cd ?
[21:33] <BluPhenix316> Lachezar: nope
[21:34] <Lachezar> BluPhenix316: Then I suppose you could dig the /var/log/apt/history to take the package names.
[21:34] <BluPhenix316> Lachezar: aye, I was just think if you can install it one way you could remove it the same way to save myself some time
[21:35] <jCuber> !livecd | SeNo_
[21:35] <gustav__> Is Ubuntu closing down if you don't get donations?
[21:36] <jCuber> SeNo_: You can burn the ubuntu disk image (.ISO) file on a DVD, then works the same as a Live-USB
[21:36] <gaussblurinc_> hello! how to know a size of application (MS Office 2010 that installing under wine)?
[21:36] <jCuber> gaussblurinc_: You want to know the size before or after installing?
[21:37] <kbrosnan> gaussblurinc_: use the disk analisys tool after installing?
[21:37] <gaussblurinc_> jCuber: both, if this is possible
[21:37] <Lachezar> gaussblurinc_: Check the ~/.wine
[21:37] <gaussblurinc_> Lachezar: i want to know a size of application before installation
[21:37] <jCuber> gaussblurinc_: You should find the info from the developer's website
[21:38] <e66> I dont see any popup-menu on my ubuntu 12.04 Classic Ubuntu Desktop
[21:38] <e66> Everytime I click any type of menu it just dont show it. Right click, appplication menu etc. Just any type of menu
[21:38] <gaussblurinc_> jCuber: developers of MSOffice or wine'developers?
[21:39] <Lachezar> gaussblurinc_: *shrug* Under Windows/Wine: tough luck.
[21:39] <guruguy> ok i'm at wits end - TRYING to install 12.10 / 4 hdd / raid 10;  that failed miserably; i've rm'd sda from the raid and 0-superblock, trying to install on it; but partman continues to hang @50%. I've chk'd log, seen LOTS of hits about bugs, and NO solutions....
[21:40] <guruguy> i would be happy to deal with this manually - have already partitioned sda, and mkfs; but installer complains disk not part'd yet
[21:41] <Lachezar> gaussblurinc_: You can find out how much space it wasted by checking the size of the .wine directory before and after the installation, but other than that it's a guess-work.
[21:41] <ceran> gaussblurinc_, doesn't the office installer tell you how much space it's going to need when you're selecting what to install (in custom install)?
[21:41] <jCuber> gaussblurinc_: Under whoever made Office 2010 (Microsoft). Their website shows you need a minimum of 3GB
[21:42] <jCuber> gaussblurinc_: Be sure to check out the open-source alternative, OpenOffice
[21:42] <shwaiil> Q: When not using the terminal but the graphic interface, how can I have admin permissions sudo ? I want to move a folder to /opt/ thanks!
[21:43] <gaussblurinc_> jCuber: yeah, my neighbour said me about it now, i will install it
[21:43] <jCuber> shwaiil: open the file manager with sudo
[21:43] <_axel_> shwaiil, use "gksudo nautilus"
[21:44] <shwaiil> jCuber: _axel_ thanks a lot!
[21:44] <jCuber> shwaiil: No problem.
[21:45] <shwaiil> Installing programs in /opt/ is that ok ? I feel like I'm always forgetting where to find them installing it here
[21:45] <mike_papa> I'm trying to access folder shared from Ubuntu with W7. I've managed to make it visible for windows, but whatever I do with samba users it says I have no permission. It never asks for password, or anything. Any ideas how to fix it?
[21:45] <jCuber> shwaiil: Aren't the executables in /usr/bin/ ?
[21:46] <shwaiil> jCuber: I've installed "Blender" under /opt/ just moved the folder and then I then think I did a simlink there in /usr/bin/
[21:46] <shwaiil> then had to create a file to place a shortcut in the left sidebar in this new ubuntu
[21:46] <shwaiil> so complicated :P
[21:46] <alof> mike_papa, is ubuntu on a vm or a separate computer?
[21:46] <shwaiil> jCuber:  I just wonder if I did the right think
[21:46] <blackness> heres a weird thing, ubuntu 12.10. random my sound will fade from LSpeaker, to Rspeaker, then equal out. any ideas?
[21:46] <mike_papa> alof: seperate.
[21:46] <blackness> s/random/randomly
[21:47] <mike_papa> alof: Ubuntu asks me for password when I try to access it, and... none of paswords I've entered works... strange.
[21:47] <jCuber>  shwaiil Uhh I don't really pay attention to such things myself :D I just take the easiest way to make it work
[21:47] <_axel_> shwaiil, why not installing blender from sofware center?
[21:47] <urlwolf>  is there any way to get 'inertia scrolling' (like we have for touchpads) on a mouse wheel?
[21:48] <shwaiil> jCuber:  yeah I used to do the same thing, but got this new computer with SSD and just wanted to make thinks correctly, so I could have readonly stuff in the right place
[21:48] <theslow2> guruguy: did someone help you out, or are you still waiting?
[21:48] <shwaiil> _axel_: oh yeah because the latest version wasn't available there :X
[21:48] <guruguy> still waiting
[21:48] <ceran> shwaiil, that's the right place for external software if you want to follow standards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard)
[21:48] <shwaiil> _axel_:  it's behind some versions :P
[21:48] <mike_papa> alow: is there any way to get rid of authorization at all? I don't need it.
[21:48] <shwaiil> ceran: thanks! Isn't there a fast or easy way to put shortcuts in the sidebar ?
[21:49] <shwaiil> don't understand why I had to create a file to create a shortcut..why not just drag and drop, strange
[21:49] <theslow2> guruguy: when you did it manually, what partition type did you use?
[21:49] <alof> mike_papa, samba uses specific user groups and user names to access/share files. i'm shooting in the dark here but guessing that your windows username doesn't have sufficient permissions w/i samba to access the files
[21:49] <ceran> shwaiil, sorry, can't comment, I usually run commands by bringing up the Run dialog and typing the command name; my default desktop is basically empty
[21:50] <shwaiil> ceran: ok tks
[21:50] <guruguy> am using gpt part table, with normal linux part's using ext2 and ext3
[21:50] <guruguy> sorry - how do you reply?
[21:50] <alof> mike_papa, have you read this: http://milindpadalkar.wordpress.com/2011/05/08/sharing-folders-using-samba/
[21:50] <shwaiil> Q: Anyone know how to easily place Shortcuts into the left sidebar ? Without having to create the "file" to show stuff there (can't remember the name)
[21:50] <shwaiil> Thanks!
[21:51] <mike_papa> alof: no... I haven't read this one. thanks. I'll try it.
[21:52] <theslow2> the parition table is fine to use as gpt, but the parition TYPE must be set to Linux RAID
[21:52] <theslow2> what paritioner are you using?
[21:52] <jCuber> urlwolf: I think if somebody made that kind of software, you'd have a lot if delay because the software would need to smoothen the hardware's input. Logitech used to make mouses which had hardware-based kinetic scrolling
[21:53] <guruguy> sorry - i did have part type as raid - when i tried raid 10 install - such a fail.... so i dropped sda from raid and reset part's to nbormal linux
[21:54] <jCuber> guruguy: You might want to try the Ubuntu Forums if you can't get an answer here
[21:54] <guruguy> i'm using parted - only thing the install provides me that understands gpt - hate it
[21:54] <Jordan_U> guruguy: Do you have the individual drives partitioned?
[21:55] <guruguy> i do have ind. drive partitioned - sda is now a "stand alone" drive; sd[b-d] are still in raid 10
[21:55] <auronandace> !raid
[21:55] <cje2> Does anyone know of a Ubuntu list for the SF Bay Area?
[21:56] <mike_papa> ok, and how can I delete user that is not logged in, and userdel says he is?
[21:56] <jCuber> !tab | guruguy
[21:56] <jCuber> :)
[21:56] <cje2> Oops, what I meant was does anyone know of an IRC channel for Ubuntu for the San Francisco Bay Area?
[21:56] <Jordan_U> guruguy: Your last comment seems contradictory. If you have the individual drives partitioned, then it should be "sda1" and "sdb1" which are RAID members, not "sda" and "sdb" (it may sound like an esoteric distinction, but it's important).
[21:56] <guruguy> TAB! TYVM!! :)
[21:58] <jCuber> cje2: Isn't the global one enough? If we have less than 2k users here, I don't think we need channels for individual cities :D
[21:58] <Jordan_U> !pm guruguy
[21:58] <Jordan_U> !pm | guruguy
[21:59] <Jordan_U> guruguy: To put it another way, are your RAID members whole drives or partitions?
[22:00] <alusion> I'm trying to install a .run file and whenever I try to enter chmod +x file.run
[22:00] <guruguy> ok - the raid install failed in more ways than i want to try explain :-)   so i've removed sda from raid - re-partitioned w/ 0x83 part's; and attempting standalone install on only sda
[22:00] <alusion> It tells me it cannot access, no such file or directory exists
[22:00] <guruguy> sd[b-d] remain in raid 10 array
[22:01] <deadmund> alusion: You're making a typo (probably you're in the wrong dir)
[22:01] <Xaratas> blsecres: found the solution. after the last server reinstall there was no german locale, so the iconv transliterate could only use the english locale which leads to a instead of ae
[22:01] <alusion> I am in the right directory I am sure  >_< deadmund
[22:01] <alusion> OH
[22:01] <alusion> I see now.
[22:01] <guruguy> my intent is to install on only sda as a "normal" install; and then i will <u> manually </u> move entire installation to raid, and re-add sda afterward
[22:01] <alusion> I didn't finish typing it
[22:02] <Jordan_U> guruguy: You aren't answering my question.
[22:02] <alusion> I had an older version and I forgot to enter the last of the version # haha
[22:02] <Guest13329> hello. I have a question that is completely not relevant to linux/ubuntu. can I ask?
[22:02] <guruguy> sorry - to complete that thouigyht - raid members are partitions
[22:02] <deadmund> Guest13329: not in here
[22:03] <jCuber> !ot
[22:03] <Guest13329> where can I?
[22:03] <deadmund> Guest13329: What's the question about?
[22:03] <Guest13329> it's a bit complicated
[22:03] <guruguy> so i have multiple md's (md[1-6] )
[22:03] <Guest13329> long story short I need to download a file
[22:03] <Guest13329> but the site will only let users of a russian ISP download
[22:03] <urlwolf> jCuber: you mean that scrollwheel without stops?
[22:03] <Guest13329> I need someone with said isp to download the file for me
[22:03] <Guest13329> heh
[22:03] <FloodBot1> Guest13329: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:03] <Guest13329> ops, sorry, I type too fast
[22:03] <guruguy> and sda matches that exact layout - sda[1-6]
[22:03] <deadmund> Guest13329: maybe ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:04] <Guest13329> thank you
[22:04] <jCuber> Guest13329: Proxy?
[22:04] <urlwolf> there's an autohotkey script (windows) that implements this.
[22:04] <Guest13329> it requires a specific ISP, do proxies cover that?
[22:04] <dsenator> hey all
[22:04] <alusion> Anyone familiar with teamspeak here?
[22:04] <jCuber> urlwolf: What type of script?
[22:04] <guruguy> i know teamspeak
[22:04] <urlwolf> just measure the number of 'clicks' per second, if faster, then increase the nb of lines scrolled
[22:05] <graft> anyone know a good cli utility for browsing an xml document?
[22:05] <jCuber> urlwolf: Tried searching online for "linux equivelant to (script or program herr)"?
[22:05] <veryhappy> graft: links or lynx?
[22:06] <veryhappy> graft: perhaps it might also w3m do the job
[22:06] <dsenator> help with bluetooth adapter not present
[22:06] <dsenator> ubuntu 12.10
[22:06] <urlwolf> jCuber: it was in an obscure post on a forum
[22:06] <urlwolf> no name
[22:06] <jCuber> !bt
[22:06] <dsenator> quantal, bluetooth adapter not present... help pls
[22:07] <jCuber> !bluetooth | dsenator
[22:07] <veryhappy> see you guys
[22:07] <theslow2> alusion: yes familiar with TS, what you need?
[22:07] <dsenator> jCuber, ubottu  thanks let me check it out... it was there but it broke at some point I guess
[22:08] <FireStorms> Hi I was updating from Ubuntu 10.04 to 12 and my update got interrupted. Ubuntu will now not boot up. I inserted the Live CD and booted, what I'm using now. Can I repair my partion this way?
[22:08] <theslow2> graft: just browsing, try lynx
[22:08] <alusion> I don't know how to start it
[22:08] <alusion> theslow2, ubuntu 12.04, I just installed it
[22:08] <ddash> Hi all, I am having some upgrading issues (from 12.04 to 12.10). Is this a good place to ask?
[22:09] <ddash> I am unable to do release upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 (even after ticking the "For any new version" option in the synaptic package manager). When I run do-release-upgrade, it says "No new release found". Any suggestions?
[22:09] <FireStorms> I've tried sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt; sudo chroot /mnt apt-get update; apt-get upgrade with no luck
[22:09] <theslow2> alusion: the client or server, and how did you install TS?
[22:09] <alusion> theslow2, the client -- I installed it via the main linux download, TeamSpeak3-Client-Linux_amd64.run
[22:10] <dsenator> ubottu, the page only has documentation tof 10.04 and 11.04 not 12.10
[22:10] <binary_glitch> sorry mormans came to talk to me... SeNO_ did you get your issue resolved?
[22:10] <Daxter> nyone know why moving a 10.04 install to a new computer causes virtualbox VMs (and minecraft too) to fail to start?
[22:10] <benedict> hi, my wireless suddenly stops working and i can only use it again after reboot. any ideas?
[22:10] <ikonia> Daxter: how did you move it ?
[22:10] <Daxter> benedict: what ubuntu version, what adapter, are you using linux drivers for adapter
[22:11] <lelouch> Wanna Delete some Windows Viruses from My Data Driver Some One Can drop me a Name of AV Works in Ubuntu well
[22:11] <Daxter> ikonia: moved physical HDD containing install and its swap partition
[22:11] <ikonia> lelouch: your "data driver" ?
[22:11] <deadmund> lelouch: I think the only one is clamav
[22:11] <alusion> theslow2, should I get version 2 or version 3?
[22:11] <Daxter> lelouch: ClamAV
[22:11] <ikonia> Daxter: what happens when you try to start them ?
[22:11] <ikonia> deadmund: is the hardware the same ?
[22:11] <theslow2> alusion: version 3
[22:11] <lelouch> ikonia: hard drive  i mean
[22:11] <ikonia> Daxter: is the hardware the same ?
[22:11] <benedict> Daxter: ubuntu 12.04, Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 - how do i find out drivers?
[22:11] <ddash> any ideas on why do-release-upgrade is not showing any new releases (12.04 to 12.10)?
[22:12] <ikonia> lelouch: just boot windows and run a virus scan
[22:12] <Daxter> ikonia: minecraft blackscreens, virtualbox vms is stuck at 0% starting
[22:12] <theslow2> alusion: if you open a terminal/shell and navigate to the TS folder, there should be some files there ending in .sh
[22:12] <deadmund> ikonia: Sorry?
[22:12] <Daxter> ddash: LTS release are by default set to upgrade to LTS only. check out software sources
[22:12] <ikonia> Daxter: different video card ?
[22:12] <ikonia> deadmund: sorry, waasn't meant for you
[22:12] <lelouch> well thanks all deadmund Daxter ikonia
[22:12] <deadmund> :P
[22:12] <ddash> Daxter: I have set that option already in the synaptic package manager
[22:12] <ikonia> Daxter: no they are not, LTS releases can upgrade to non-LTS releases just fine
[22:12] <deadmund> benedict: Need help?
[22:13] <benedict> deadmund: yes - that's why i am here :)
[22:13] <guruguy> ok - let me try a different approach - partman hangs at 50% - there appear to be complaints and bug reports all over the place about this. i've seen no solutions. does anyone know how to fix the hanging partman (on install) issue?
[22:13] <ddash> Daxter: I have set it to "For any new version"
[22:13] <theslow2> alusion: give me 1 minute and my download will be complete. (then i'll be able to tell you exactly how to start it)
[22:13] <deadmund> benedict: I am really good with these drivers.  PM me?
[22:13] <Daxter> ikonia: different everything. old cpu: AMD athlon 64 new cpu: Intel core i5-750 old gfx: nvidia geforce gt240, new: geforce gtx280
[22:13] <ddash> Daxter: even then it is not working, any ideas? Thanks for your reply
[22:13] <mike_papa> alof: it helped. thanks. does user's group need to be in valid users for every user? user name isn't enough?
[22:13] <b0w> hello! im having problems with the new lens thing on ubuntu 12.10, i installed some of them but not seem to work when i type something on the unity thing
[22:13] <ikonia> Daxter: , so that's something I'd look at resolving
[22:14] <xangua> b0w: did you restart your session¿
[22:14] <homecable> whats the most used desktop ?
[22:14] <alusion> theslow2, thanks, I found the .sh and started it. how can I create a hardlink to the .sh to the desktop?
[22:14] <b0w> xangua, yeah like 3 times now
[22:14] <Daxter> ikonia: for the lts release software sources isnt set to show upgrade to non-lts releass, at least in 10.04
[22:14] <alusion> via command link of course
[22:14] <homecable> xubuntu or what
[22:14] <ikonia> Daxter: yes, so you can get set it to what you want
[22:14] <ikonia> Daxter: that does'nt mean it's not designed to be upgraded to non-lts releases.
[22:14] <lelouch> and How can i delete Ubuntu Or From my laptop i used Gparted to delete partition but got Grub rescue problem
[22:14] <jCuber> homecable: Ubuntu I guess?
[22:15] <ddash> Daxter, ikonia: yes, Daxter is right, it was set to only lts releases in 12.04
[22:15] <b0w> xangua, installed the wikipedia lens and when i tipe something it shows nothing, just the amazon lens its working
[22:15] <zvacet> homecable: depends what you like it is your choise  I use cinnamon
[22:15] <ikonia> ddash: yes, and you can set it to what you want
[22:15] <ddash> Daxter, ikonia: for some reason for me even if I set it to non-lts versions, I cannot do a release upgrade
[22:15] <ikonia> ddash: please pastebin the output of "lsb_release -a"
[22:16] <lelouch>  How can i delete Ubuntu Or From my laptop i used Gparted to delete partition but got Grub rescue problem
[22:16] <ikonia> lsb-release -a sorry
[22:16] <theslow2> alusion: in a terminal run ln ~/Download/Teamspeak/file.sh ~/Desktop
[22:16] <ikonia> lelouch: you need to put a new boot loader on the machine
[22:16] <LifeIsGood169> Hello everyone, I have a fairly specific question regarding LVM2 on Ubuntu Server 12.04. I would like to send a picture of my HDD partition list, so I can set one up without erasing data. Thank you.
[22:16] <dsenator> how do I enable bluetooth adapter in ubuntu 12.10
[22:16] <ddash> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/3NDwhDbG
[22:17] <dsenator> how do I enable bluetooth adapter in ubuntu 12.1
[22:17] <Daxter> anyways what do you mean by something to resolve? only reason why new machine is running this install is due to the old computer dying.
[22:17] <dsenator> how do I enable bluetooth adapter in ubuntu 12.10, say not present
[22:17] <dsenator> how do I enable bluetooth adapter in ubuntu 12.10, say not present
[22:17] <FireStorms> My system won't boot because of an "Upgrade" failure. Can anyone help? I'm booted via Live CD of 10.04. Here's some steps straight from the Ubuntu Help Guide I've taken http://pastebin.com/3dMcChd5 what are these errors?
[22:17] <zvacet> lelouch : do you have other os on your laptop
[22:17] <Daxter> !repeat | dsenator
[22:17] <ikonia> Daxter: so your hardware has changed, there will be modules that will need to be loaded and old ones stopped, especially around the video card
[22:17] <xangua> b0w: doesn't show an icon for it in the dash¿
[22:18] <lelouch> zvacet: Windows
[22:18] <b0w> xangua, no i dont see it, should i got it? i installed the lens from terminal
[22:18] <xangua> b0w: is this what you are talking about¿ http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/04/how-to-add-a-wikipedia-lens-to-unity-for-faster-fact-finding
[22:18] <Daxter> ikonia: reinstall graphics drivers? its the same family of gfx cards tho
[22:18] <FireStorms> anyone?
[22:18] <lelouch> ikonia: already used a live cd to delete partition  with gparted
[22:19] <ikonia> lelouch: that's not what I said
[22:19] <Daxter> FireStorms: what were you upgrading from and to, and when/where did it fail?
[22:19] <ikonia> Daxter: also look at the virtualisation modules,
[22:19] <ddash> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/3NDwhDbG
[22:19] <Daxter> ikonia: what I dont get is ive reinstalled virtualsbox a few times now
[22:19] <ikonia> Daxter: i didn't say reinstall
[22:19] <Daxter> i would think that would reset the modules
[22:19] <zvacet> lelouch: can you boot in it?
[22:20] <b0w> xangua, yes that one
[22:20] <Daxter> have to check that out
[22:20] <ikonia> ddash: and what happens when you follow the upgrade process
[22:20] <FireStorms> Daxter: from 10.04 to LTS 12.??. The failure occured 2/3 through the instillation of the upgrades. Since my syetm won't boot.
[22:20] <zvacet> FireStorms: try sudo apt-get -f install
[22:21] <lelouch> ikonia: so explain
[22:21] <ikonia> lelouch: you need to put a new boot loader on the master boot record as you've deleted the partition that grub needed to work
[22:21] <ikonia> lelouch: join ##windows and ask them how to put your windows MBR back
[22:21] <lelouch> zvacet: i reinstall ubuntu and i can boot in it now but i dont know how to delete it
[22:21] <b0w> xangua, well actually i swa it here http://askubuntu.com/questions/38772/what-lenses-for-unity-are-available
[22:21] <xangua> b0w: well then you should see an icon for wkipedia in the dash like the image shows
[22:22] <ddash> ikonia: when I run do-release-upgrade, it says "No new release found"
[22:22] <chris_> I desperately need help! I installed ubuntu, mint and a bunch of other distro's over the week. I get the same problem with ALL of them. I keep loosing internet after being on it for a while and I cant get it back. im back on ubuntu and i got it back by connecting to another local isp. I know soon i'll loose this connection. I don't want to keep hoping from one connection to another to get internet.
[22:22] <ddash> ikonia: Do I have to manually add the quantal repositories before doing a do-release-upgrade?
[22:22] <lelouch> ikonia: already reinstall ubuntu but i just wanna know how to delete it Just in Case
[22:22] <guruguy> is this a community only channel, or does ubuntu troll here?
[22:22] <zvacet> lelouch: read http://members.iinet.net.au/~herman546/p18.html#MbrFix.exe after that you can remove ubuntu
[22:22] <ikonia> guruguy: it's an ubuntu support channel
[22:23] <ikonia> lelouch: no you know
[22:23] <ikonia> "now"
[22:23] <guruguy> ikonia: ok tx!
[22:23] <chris_> i don't know why i get connection for a few hours then loose internet connection
[22:23] <b0w> xangua, yeah, not working at all, i dont know whats going on... just installed 3 of those lens but no one works, just the preinstalled one for amazon
[22:23] <chris_> please help me.
[22:23] <jCuber> chris_: What kind of network adapter do you have?
[22:24] <chris_> i'm not sure how to find out. im on a HP g60 notebook
[22:24] <xangua> b0w: no idea really, i use the same ppa but only installed the the pirate bay lens
[22:24] <tinkster> Can I somehow install 10.04 using a newer kernel?  I need to run a cluster of 2 servers, the server product is tied to 10.04.  But 10.04 won't install on one piece of hardware (12.04 would).
[22:25] <mrdavid> chris_: you can run lspci
[22:25] <maslo> Hi guys, I have a virtual private server that I'm using as a web hosting, I'd like to install a mail server but don't really know which one to take or how to ;x, I'd like one that can do simple redirects like this: (if you get this@this.com send it ot that@that.com) and possibly will use some piping in the future to a php script but that's not important right now
[22:25] <b0w> xangua, its there any activate deactivate lens thing?
[22:25] <chris_> jCuber i'm not sure how to find out. I just came from windows last week.
[22:25] <chris_> lspci
[22:25] <bekks> tinkster: Which cluster software do you use?
[22:25] <chris_> sudo lspci
[22:25] <chris_> how do i run that?
[22:25] <FireStorms> zvacet: I tried sudo apt-get -f install but it did not work. This is what I got http://pastebin.com/8emJDELh
[22:25] <Daxter> chris_: Ctrl+Alt+T
[22:25] <L3top> chris_: lspci | grep -Ei '(wlan|wireless|802)
[22:25] <xangua> b0w: no that i know
[22:25] <Daxter> opens terminal
[22:25] <jCuber> !cli | chris_
[22:25] <Daxter> then paste the code others have been tellnig you to run
[22:25] <tinkster> bekks, it's not a cluster software as such ... we use drdb for a zimbra set-up, with one being a cold standby ... however, one of the old machines is hopelessly underspeced.
[22:25] <b0w> xangua, any ideas?
[22:25] <chris_> lspci
[22:26] <tinkster> The replacements machine is too recent to install 10.04 of CD
[22:26] <Daxter> oh cli factiod? nic3e
[22:26] <xangua> b0w: contact the ppa maintainer
[22:26] <bekks> tinkster: drbd has nothing to do with clustering at all :)
[22:26] <tinkster> I know
[22:26] <chris_> I desperately need help! I installed ubuntu, mint and a bunch of other distro's over the week. I get the same problem with ALL of them. I keep loosing internet after being on it for a while and I cant get it back. im back on ubuntu and i got it back by connecting to another local isp. I know soon i'll loose this connection. I don't want to keep hoping from one connection to another to get internet.
[22:26] <chris_> oops sorry
[22:26] <chris_> how do i paste? lol
[22:27] <jCuber> chris_: Cr
[22:27] <tinkster> Back to the question of using a more recent kernel during install ? :)
[22:27] <L3top> chris_: ctrl shift v
[22:27] <auronandace> !paste | chris_
[22:27] <chris_> 02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[22:27] <chris_> did you get that?
[22:27] <ikonia> tinkster: not going to happen
[22:27] <chris_> looks like atheros communications inc ar9285
[22:28] <L3top> yes chris_.
[22:28] <chris_> I own a HP G60 notebook
[22:28] <tinkster> ikonia, bother :) ... i was afraid that was going to be the response.
[22:28] <b0w> xangua, do you know how to get the alt+f2 command execution function? on ubuntu 12.10 it doesnt seem to work
[22:28] <zvacet> FireStorms: something is not right with your source list that is all I can tell sorry
[22:29] <pradeep_> chris_, what is te problem?
[22:29] <FireStorms> zvacet: thanks for your help it almost worked
[22:30] <b0w> anyone here knows how to get lens working on an ubuntu 12.10 64 bits pc?
[22:30] <ikonia> b0w: it works and is insalled by default
[22:30] <jCuber> pradeep_: chris_: his network adapter goes offline/stops working after a few hours of browsing
[22:30] <zvacet> FireStorms : try with sudo apt-get update to be sure everything is O.K. with source list
[22:30] <pradeep_> lspci
[22:30] <benedict> back
[22:31] <L3top> chris_: this doesn't have anything to do with the OS it doesn't look like... but the adapter itself most likely. Does this hardware work on ANY operating system?
[22:31] <chris_> windows
[22:31] <jCuber> pradeep_: Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[22:31] <chris_> NEVER a problem on windows
[22:31] <chris_> but every distro of linux it's doing the same thing
[22:31] <bdeluca> Im using the nvidia driver, but need to specify some thing in the xorg file, but they dont appear to exist any more
[22:31] <chris_> so i know it's not just the specific distro
[22:31] <FireStorms> zvacet: I try but I get a lot of: "W: Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Something wicked happened resolving 'gb.archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)"
[22:31] <Kart> chris_: any power management or battery management software ?
[22:32] <jCuber> chris_: You sure you're not just accidentally hitting the wifi switch?
[22:32] <L3top> chris_: on the same hardware, on the same network, it never drops... but on all linux distro's it does?
[22:32] <benedict> deadmund: back
[22:32] <chris_> I don't have a wifi switch
[22:32] <Daxter> chris_: have you tried blackisting the linux driver and using ndiswrapper for the adapter driver?
[22:32] <chris_> (looking), no no buttons or anything. just the one way up on my keyboard, but that's always blue
[22:32] <b0w> ikonia, i got some problems getting some new lens to work, installed the wiki lens and i dont figure out how to use it, when i type somehting nothing shows
[22:32] <chris_> yes l3top that's right
[22:32] <chris_> no, Daxter i havent. how would i do that?
[22:32] <zvacet> FireStorms: change server to main maybe that help
[22:33] <bdeluca> has the xorg.conf gone away forever?
[22:33] <magma> hi. What's the best gmail notifier that has integration with unity?
[22:33] <FireStorms> zvacet: thanks again I will try now :)
[22:33] <chris_> perhaps it's jumping drivers for what ever reason.
[22:33] <magma> gm-notify doesn't work anymore
[22:33] <moonvoniron> re, on Configuration de ttf-mscorefonts-installer , the 'ok' button is locked,please help !
[22:33] <Daxter> !blacklist | chris_
[22:34] <Daxter> !ndiswrapper | chris_
[22:34] <L3top> chris_: I find no bugs, or issues with that hw on linux. What I would do, if I were you, is create a new dmesg/syslog log and recreate the problem, then look over those logs.
[22:34] <k1l> bdeluca: its not needed because the automatism is doing a good job. but if you need it you can make a xorg.conf
[22:34] <xangua> mmm too many mentions of ndiswrapper lately
[22:34] <Daxter> lol yeah
[22:34] <ddash> ikonia: do-release-upgrade -d works!!!! Mmike@xubuntu irc helped
[22:35] <ikonia> ddash: that's bad
[22:35] <chris_> where is the error log file?
[22:35] <ikonia> ddash: you should not use -d
[22:35] <zvacet> moonvoniron: did you tried with arrow keys
[22:35] <xangua> it's sad makers are again with 'do not make/release drivers for linux'
[22:35] <k1l> ddash: 12.04 to 12.10?
[22:35] <ikonia> ddash: that will upgrade it to the instable platform
[22:35] <chris_> daxter what is the command for the blacklist?
[22:35] <chris_> !blacklist
[22:36] <jCuber> chris_: Alt+F2 then "sudo gedit" and open the file in the msg ubottu sent you
[22:36] <zvacet> chris_ : gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[22:37] <Daxter> blacklisting your atheros driver will render all internet unusable, unless you have a replacement driver (ndiswrapper?) or un blacklist driver
[22:37] <zvacet> chris_ :put name of module you want to lacklist at the end of file
[22:37] <chris_> Excelent! ok im in gedit
[22:37] <chris_> how do i know which one to blacklist?
[22:38] <zvacet> chris_: witch one you are trying to blacklist?
[22:38] <jCuber> Fellaa remember that chris_ here just installed linux for the first time some time ago
[22:38] <chris_> Im very very new to this :)
[22:39] <dsenator> seems no solution to bluetooth adapter not found issue
[22:39] <Daxter> ah chris_ there is a module that your adpater runs off of. bliacklsiting it preventsit from loading, so you can use a replacement driver.
[22:40] <chris_> oh i see. where do i get this replacement driver and keep it active for ever?
[22:40] <moonvoniron> zvacet no,
[22:40] <chris_> i see this blacklisted in the gedit
[22:40] <chris_> # causes no end of confusion by creating unexpected network interfaces
[22:40] <chris_> blacklist eth1394
[22:41] <smj> purging removes the left-over configuration files, right? is it possible to reset the configuration files without uninstalling the packages, after several dist-upgrades, to get a "clean" install?
[22:41] <chris_> im on wifi, so not sure if this effects anything
[22:41] <Daxter> your module wont be lsited normally in there
[22:41] <zvacet> moonvoniron: sorry no what?
[22:41] <moonvoniron> for arrow keys
[22:41] <jrib> smj: I suppose it's possible.
[22:41] <jCuber> smj: apt-get install --reinstall (package)?
[22:42] <smj> jCuber: how about all the packages?
[22:42] <chris_> where would I get this wifi module and make it my default so no others will try to take over killing my internet connection?
[22:42] <smj> and does that remove the configurations?
[22:42] <Daxter> as far as replacement driver, this is where it gets tricky. its never the same for different hardware it seems. to use another dirver youll have to google or something for it. not fun. or use ndiswrapper, which piggybacks off of the windows driver for the hardware.
[22:42] <zvacet> moonvoniron : is it just hiting enter or you have to select ok
[22:43] <chris_> ok sounds like ndiswrapper is easy. How do i launch this app?
[22:43] <ikonia> it's not easy
[22:43] <jCuber> smj: So you want a completely new install, or just certain packages?
[22:43] <smj> completely new install
[22:43] <Daxter> !ndiswrapper | chris_
[22:44] <jCuber> smj: Why not just reinstall via a Live-DVD/USB?
[22:44] <chris_> !ndiswrapper
[22:44] <moonvoniron> arrow keys doesn't works
[22:44] <smj> jCuber: I don't have an USB stick or empty discs
[22:45] <chris_> chris@chris-HP-G60-Notebook-PC:~$ ndiswrapper
[22:45] <chris_> The program 'ndiswrapper' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[22:45] <chris_> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common
[22:45] <chris_> it's not installed.
[22:45] <FloodBot1> chris_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:45] <jCuber> smj: Then it's a bit hard to reinstall
[22:45] <Daxter> duh..you have to install ndiswrapper
[22:46] <chris_> ndiswrapper is not installed it sais
[22:46] <Daxter> you have to install ndiswrapper
[22:46] <Daxter> in order to sue it
[22:46] <Daxter> use*
[22:46] <jCuber> smj, maybe ask your friends to borrow an USB disc or buy some DVDs from a store (probably 0,50 - 2€ per disc)
[22:46] <chris_> ok installing it now
[22:46] <chris_>  i did the command sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common
[22:47] <POVaddct> is ubuntu 12.10 still using upstart as init process?
[22:47] <jCuber> smj: Haa I meant usb-drive, not disc
[22:47] <jrib> POVaddct: yes
[22:47] <POVaddct> jrib: thanks
[22:47] <Daxter> guys wasnt there a GUI for ndiswrapper?
[22:47] <blackness> !ndis
[22:47] <Seveas> !info ndisgtk
[22:48] <blackness> there it is.
[22:48] <MonkeyDust> !upstart | POVaddct
[22:48] <chris_> Im installing on the market "windows wireless drivers"
[22:48] <chris_> sorry, i mean software centre
[22:49] <POVaddct> MonkeyDust: i know upstart. just wanted to know if ubuntu is still using it or maybe switched to some other init system.
[22:49] <bekks> POVaddct: It is using it, and there is no effort in switching in near future.
[22:49] <chris_> Ok ndiswrapper is installe
[22:50] <chris_> how do i work this thing?
[22:50] <Daxter> youll need the windows driver, extracted, not a .exe
[22:50] <benedict_> deadmund: didn't work :(
[22:50] <Daxter> its been so long since i used this....
[22:50] <deadmund> benedict_: What exactly isn't working?
[22:51] <chris_> ok no problem. where does one find drivers for the hp G60 - 635DX notebook ?
[22:51] <Daxter> hp's website?
[22:51] <litropy> Hi, all - I forget the package name for the most commonly used flash plugin.
[22:51] <pradeep_> chris_, did it come with windows pre-installed
[22:51] <chris_> yes
[22:51] <Daxter> litropy: flashplugin-installer iirc
[22:51] <chris_> windows was preinsalled, but now it's gone
[22:51] <jrib> !flash | litropy
[22:51] <pradeep_> you can copy it from there
[22:51] <chris_> its a new hard drive
[22:52] <pradeep_> or rather download the network driver
[22:52] <chris_> sorry, the old hdd is gone, burned out
[22:52] <chris_> can i put in my windows 7 torrent?
[22:53] <chris_> i have a torrent windows 7, but with an invalid cd key. will ndiswrapper auto extract it from there?
[22:53] <Kart> chris_: no
[22:53] <Daxter> chris_: no
[22:53] <Daxter> download the driver from hp's website
[22:53] <chris_> ok. It's not an exe?
[22:53] <magma> hi. What's the best gmail notifier that has integration with unity?
[22:54] <pradeep_> basically what is the name of your cad
[22:54] <Daxter> it is, you will need to extract it
[22:54] <jCuber> oh my dear god..
[22:54] <pradeep_> aethros?
[22:54] <chris_> ok, i'll download that .exe wifi adapter driver from hp
[22:54] <Kart> magma: https://launchpad.net/gm-notify
[22:54] <pradeep_> good
[22:55] <magma> Kart: I liked that one, but it does not work in version 12.10 of ubuntu
[22:57] <Kart> magma: check out this thread. i guess you can in later versions as well ..
[22:57] <Kart> magma: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1980509
[22:58] <magma> Kart: no... The api changed
[22:58] <magma> I used it on 12.04 also
[22:59] <magma> but since I upgraded to 12.10 it stopped working
[23:00] <LifeIsGood169> I have a fairly specific question regarding LVM2 on Ubuntu Server 12.04. I would like to send a picture of my HDD partition list, so I can set one up without erasing data. Thank you.http://s216.beta.photobucket.com/user/lalabby/media/UBUNTUSERVER2-diskinfo.png.html
[23:00] <LifeIsGood169> I meant to add, I don't completely understand the current partitions.
[23:01] <ryan_C> Hi room
[23:02] <LifeIsGood169> Hi
[23:02] <Gyro54> My Thunderbird takes out all the menus and the Unity side bar. I reinstalled the Thunderbird-globalmenu but this didnt fix the problem
[23:02] <Kart> magma: when you say you updated, did you run distro upgrade command or from scratch ?!
[23:03] <Gyro54> Everything else work fine?
[23:03] <magma> Kart: distro-upgrade. And also tried reinstalling that app
[23:03] <magma> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bug/1040259
[23:04] <blackness> heres a weird thing, ubuntu 12.10. randomly my sound will fade from LSpeaker, to Rspeaker, then equal out. any ideas?
[23:05] <Kart> magma: i am wondering if the distro upgrade is what messed up the associated libraries . i am one of those guys who really does not like distro upgrades via command line ..
[23:05] <maslo> did something stupid and messed up my mysql priviledges....is there any way to reset all the priviledge for root ? :X
[23:05] <holstein> blackness: bad hardware? i would test with a known good file and a live CD
[23:06] <blackness> ive already tested VIA LiveCD..
[23:06] <Kart> magma: was there any error messages when you re-installed it in 12.10 ?
[23:06] <blackness> and i played 3Hrs of mp3s...this didnt happen till i went 12.04->12.10
[23:07] <magma> Kart: no error messages. gm-notify does not work because of the new api https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bug/1040259
[23:07] <walex> maslo: many web pages explain how to reset the MySQL admin password as 'root'.
[23:07] <holstein> blackness: could be that alsa version or kernel that is not supporting your hardware.. i would test with a 12.04 live CD.. and try and determine that the hardware is not bad
[23:07] <maslo> because I can't even use mysql from ssh it says Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[23:08] <magma> Kart: Do you want to port gm-notify to the new api libmessaging-menu
[23:08] <blackness> holstein, i came from 12.04 and its never acted like this til 12.10..my audio works fine when im in windows.
[23:08] <blackness> is there a newer kernel i can test? how far back can 12.10 go?
[23:08] <holstein> blackness: cool.. then i would upgrade all packages... and test in a 12.04 live CD.. and consider staying on 12.04
[23:09] <blackness> i like 12.10..but how would i downgrade?
[23:09] <holstein> blackness: you can test mainline.. or make your own... i would see what kernel and alsa version supports you in 12.04 and go from there
[23:09] <alinmear> hi all! whats the differnce between /etc/localtime and /etc/timezone! thx
[23:09] <Kart> magma: try that. the thing is i am not on my ubuntu machine .. at least for another day or two ..
[23:09] <holstein> blackness: i would reinstall 12.04
[23:09] <Kart> magma: so you would have to test that sir
[23:09] <blackness> eep! ill stay with 12.10 and wait for a LTS
[23:09] <holstein> blackness: its likely soemthing you can sort out in 12.10... 13.04 is the next lts.. reinstall takes about 8 minutes
[23:10] <jCuber> Fellas, about this chris_ 's case, is there a wlan blacklist somewhere?
[23:10] <blackness> 8 minutes? using what method?
[23:10] <holstein> blackness: any for me. on most hardware..
[23:11] <jrib> holstein: 13.04 is the next LTS?
[23:11] <holstein> blackness: i not saying you need to downgrade.. just that its an option
[23:11] <blackness> ill just stay with 12.10. where would i check alsa/kernel ?
[23:11] <holstein> jrib: you're right.. its 14.04
[23:11] <holstein> blackness: 14.04.. april of 2014
[23:11] <blackness> i cannt wait for 13.04
[23:12] <holstein> blackness: i would check in the 12.04 live CD.. see what kernel and alsa version there supports you.. there are backports and other options
[23:12] <xangua> blackness: 13.04 won't be lts if that is what you are saying
[23:12] <holstein> yeah... 14.04**.. i had a typo...
[23:13] <alinmear> hi all! whats the differnce between /etc/localtime and /etc/timezone! thx
[23:13] <blackness> so next LTS is 2yrs away? but the next rls is 13.04 ?
[23:14] <jrib> blackness: 18 months away; yes
[23:14] <holstein> blackness: there is a release every 6 months.. 12.10. 13.04... etc
[23:15] <walex> blackness: where .04 means april and .10 means october
[23:15] <holstein> blackness: the lts's are usually 2 years.. and likely will always be.. 8.04, 10.04 12.04... etc
[23:15] <blackness> oh..got'cha
[23:16] <blackness> yay installing 3.6.0..hope we get better results ;P
[23:16] <jCuber> has a .10 ever been released on the 22nd?
[23:17] <bekks> sure.
[23:17] <jrib> jCuber: I don't know, but why?
[23:17] <jCuber> jrib: My bd's then, lol
[23:17] <bekks> .10 of what? :D
[23:18] <jCuber> Ubuntu, like 12.10 or 10.10 lol
[23:18] <bekks> 12.10 is officially released, yes.
[23:18] <cje2> Does anyone know of a San Francisco Bay Area Ubuntu IRC channel?  Thx.
[23:18] <jrib> !loco | cje2
[23:18] <blackness> brb
[23:19] <OerHeks> jCuber, check these dates >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[23:19] <jCuber> bekks: Lol I know, just wanted to know if one would have happened to been released on my birthday in october, lol
[23:19] <cje2> ubottu, thx.
[23:20] <cje2> jrib, what is !loco | cje2.  It looks like a BASH command.  Thx.
[23:20] <bekks> cje2: 1114 001841 < ubottu> cje2: Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at http://loco.ubuntu.com/
[23:21] <bekks> Thats "loco" ;)
[23:21] <ikonia> /window 37
[23:21] <ikonia> oops
[23:21] <jrib> cje2: "!factoid" is just a trigger for our bot, ubottu, to send information.  The "| cje2" tells him to address you with the information (yes, inspired by bash's pipe syntax)
[23:22] <digitalirony> hello
[23:22] <blackness> well..got 3.6
[23:22] <bekks> blackness: 3.6 of what?
[23:22] <digitalirony> is there something wrong with ubuntu repos in 12.04?
[23:22] <blackness> 3.6.0 kernel on 12.10
[23:23] <digitalirony> all of my desktops here are 'hanging' on apt-get update
[23:23] <digitalirony> all seemingly in different places
[23:23] <blackness> digitalirony, hanging?
[23:23] <holstein> digitalirony: your internect connection is a constant as well
[23:23] <bekks> blackness: Thats no official kernel package, isnt it?
[23:23] <digitalirony> yeah, its fiber
[23:23] <svip> Anyone has experience with dependency issues, where Aptitude's solution is to remove a lot of packages?
[23:23] <digitalirony> just sitting on 100% waiting for headers
[23:24] <ikonia> svip: support for aptitude has been dropped
[23:24] <jrib> svip: what ubuntu version?
[23:24] <cje2> jrib, wow, thx for that tip.  Kinda cool.
[23:24] <svip> jrib: 11.10.
[23:24] <jrib> ubottu: tell cje2 about yourself
[23:24] <digitalirony> so, this isn't happening to anyone else?
[23:25] <jrib> svip: yes, aptitude in before 12.10 has issues with multi-arch.  It should be in the release notes (and you can find a bug in launchpad)
[23:25] <jrib> s/in//
[23:25] <ikonia> jrib: has 12.10 resolved this ?
[23:25] <ikonia> jrib: I thought it had just been removed ?
[23:25] <cje2> bekks, thx for that link
[23:25] <jrib> ikonia: yes (well at least according to the changelog and the bug report)
[23:26] <svip> ikonia: Aptitude hasn't come standard with Ubuntu for a long time.
[23:26] <Agrajag-> g'day, i'm trying to get usb redirection in qemu-kvm workgin with 12.04, however when i add a usb redirection device to a guest and try to start it, i get "USB redirection is not supported by this version of QEMU". is there something i'm missing or does the qemu-kvm that comes with 12.04 really not support this?
[23:26] <ikonia> jrib: aptitude is back in 12.10
[23:26] <ikonia> svip: I know this, I've just said it's not supported
[23:26] <LifeIsGood169> I'd like to setup a single volume group across multiple pv's.  But sdb5 is listed as swap space? & sda{1,2,3} = linux, extended, linux lvm.
[23:26] <LifeIsGood169> How do I set aside the system files & swap space on 1 hdd. & partition everything else as a volume group?  I have a picture of 'fdisk -l' if it helps.
[23:26] <acuozzo> Does anyone here use Ubuntu on an HP laptop with "Beats Audio"?
[23:26] <cje2> jrib, heh, thanks again for prompting the bot.  Rather amazing, actually.  I will put that info in my list of resources.
[23:26] <svip> ikonia: That's not the same.
[23:27] <deephect> im using chatzilla on firefox anyone know a good version for opera
[23:27] <ikonia> svip: errrr, so ubuntu would ship unsupported software with it by default.....
[23:27] <svip> ikonia: No, but just because it doesn't ship with it, doesn't make it unsupported.
[23:27] <svip> jrib: Can I make it work with apt-get then?  Or something?
[23:27] <ikonia> svip: yes, but it IS unsupported
[23:27] <ikonia> svip: hence why it was removed
[23:28] <jrib> svip: make what work?
[23:28] <deephect> no on opera
[23:28] <acuozzo> I can't get ALSA to recognize the subwoofer of my 4.1 surround sound system (yes, 4.1, not 5.1)
[23:28] <svip> jrib: The dependency issue.
[23:28] <jrib> svip: what dependency issue?
[23:29] <svip> jrib: I'm confused, should one add :i386 to its name to install a 32bit package?
[23:29] <svip> e.g. libasound2:i386
[23:30] <jrib> svip: I don't recall what version that was introduced.  At least in 12.04 it was that way
[23:30] <svip> jrib: Yeah, I've seen that as well. :/
[23:30] <jrib> svip: I suppose if that functionality is available to you in 11.10, then that's how you should do it.
[23:30] <acuozzo> Any tips?
[23:30] <jrib> svip: (you still haven't stated your actuall issue)
[23:31] <svip> jrib: My actual issue seems to be something to do with multiarchitecture.
[23:31] <jrib> svip: ok, but can you just tell us what your issue is?
[23:31] <svip>               Depends: libjpeg-turbo8:i386 but it is not installable
[23:31] <Jordan_U> svip: Do you have any problems when using apt-get rather than aptitude?
[23:31] <svip> Jordan_U: Yes, the same problems.
[23:31] <jrib> svip: you should pastebin full input and output
[23:32] <acuozzo> Using "options snd-hda-intel model=hp-dv7-4000" gets me 4.0 out of my 4.1 speakers
[23:32] <svip> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1356799/
[23:32] <LifeIsGood169> Is this a bad place to ask my lvm question? I honestly don't need help with lvm. I just don't understand why my second hd: sdb{1,2,5} = linux, extended, linux swap.... While my first hd: sda{1,2,5} = linux, extended, linux lvm. I just don't know what I'm allowed to format and what it means.
[23:32] <Jordan_U> svip: Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get -f install".
[23:33] <digitalirony> hrmm
[23:33] <digitalirony> its the 'extras' repo
[23:33] <digitalirony> it seems to be lagging or something
[23:33] <chris_> I just downloaded the HP60 wifi drivers. Can someone please teach me how to install them? I keep getting kicked off the internet every hour and have to connect to another wifi to get online again. I'm running out of wifi connections in my building to connect to :P
[23:33] <svip> Jordan_U: That just removed the package causing trouble for now.
[23:34] <jrib> svip: you simply don't have the requirements for that steam package available afaict
[23:34] <digitalirony> deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main
[23:34] <digitalirony> ^ thats the line that causes apt-get update to hang
[23:34] <chris_> can someone help me install them please?
[23:34] <svip> Jordan_U: (So I am gonna do that for now, so I can upgrade.)
[23:34] <svip> jrib: You mean those packages are not available for 11.10?
[23:35] <blackshirt> tinah ?
[23:35] <jrib> svip: well libc6 is what I checked, and yes, you don't have libc6 that satisfies that version requirement in ubuntu 11.10
[23:35] <svip> Hmmm, sad.
[23:36] <jrib> svip: why not upgrade ubuntu?
[23:36] <ryan_C> Why stay with ubuntu 11.10
[23:36] <svip> ryan_C: For now?  To avoid Unity, but then again, I am using XFCE, so I don't think it matters.
[23:36] <jrib> svip: right, xfce is still there :)
[23:37] <ryan_C> I upgraded to 12.10 then had to downgrade to 12.04 because i keep getting error message then my pc would freezethen i would have to restart
[23:37] <svip> ryan_C: I think I am gonna stay at 12.04.
[23:37] <ryan_C> And ubuntu 12.04 works very very nice for me its fast
[23:38] <Jordan_U> svip: It's explicitly stated multiple times that the Steam Beta requires Ubuntu 12.04 or newer, it was never going to work in Ubuntu 11.10.
[23:38] <ryan_C> But i need to learn some more commands for the terminal i only know sudo apt-get install wine
[23:38] <svip> Jordan_U: Make sense.
[23:38] <ryan_C> I saw that on youtube when i was looking for commands lol
[23:38] <digitalirony> ryan_C: until you try to use the extras repository....it seems to be down
[23:39] <LovesLinux> ryan_c check box-admin.com
[23:39] <PedroP> While using 12.04 LTS is there any way to upgrade a package to its latest version, whichever the repository?
[23:39] <digitalirony> PedroP: apt-get install 'packagename'
[23:40] <PedroP> digitalirony: well, but my repositories don't have the latest package
[23:40] <digitalirony> PedroP: then you can download a .deb package of the newer version and try to do it manually, or look for 3rd party repos
[23:40] <digitalirony> however if you do it manually you will see allll kinds of dependancy issues most likely
[23:41] <OerHeks> PedroP, what package ? maybe the dependencies don't match
[23:41] <digitalirony> or may not even be able to find a .deb package, and have to compile it from source
[23:41] <PedroP> I guess the package I want is available
[23:41] <PedroP> but not on my repositories
[23:42] <PedroP> at least, it's here: https://launchpad.net/backupninja
[23:42] <digitalirony> PedroP: then you have to use other repositories, or download and install with dpkg -i
[23:42] <digitalirony> ahh, just add the launchpad.net repos if you want
[23:42] <digitalirony> make sure you read on what that entails though
[23:42] <digitalirony> the pros and cons of using a 3rd party repo
[23:42] <LovesLinux> you could compile from source as long as no dependency issues, ./configure;make;make test;make install
[23:42] <PedroP> digitalirony: ok, but will that have any impact on my other packages?
[23:42] <digitalirony> there is usually a reason its not included in the official repos
[23:43] <digitalirony> PedroP: yes, it can
[23:43] <digitalirony> PedroP: thats why I say you will want to read what implications it might have
[23:43] <PedroP> digitalirony: I'm not really sure how, to be honest
[23:43] <zykotick9> LovesLinux: a better suggestion would be to use checkinstall (see "/msg ubottu checkinstall" for details)
[23:43] <LovesLinux> pedrop yes it wont update your package managers db and unless you use check install probbably wont have an uninstaller
[23:44] <digitalirony> PedroP: how to do what
[23:44] <LovesLinux> pedrop use it as a last resort
[23:44] <marcio> hey guys, i installed the steam beta and want to remove it, its not in my lubuntu software center, any idea how i can remove it? thanks
[23:44] <PedroP> I'm kind of getting confused
[23:45] <PedroP> I just wanted to install a single package from a different repo. "Raring", for example
[23:45] <digitalirony> marcio: apt-get remove packagename
[23:45] <homecable> any one have screen shots of there desktops ?
[23:45] <digitalirony> PedroP: just download the package from that website, there should be a link for a .deb file
[23:45] <dr_willis> homecable:  why does it matter?  theres web sites out with eyecandy desktop screenshits
[23:45] <LovesLinux> pedrop Im old skool linux people more familiar with Ubuntu can probably give more user friendly advice
[23:45] <digitalirony> then do 'dpkg -i package.deb'
[23:45] <homecable> i think i might convert just want to see whats out there as to what people are using as there desktop
[23:45] <PedroP> digitalirony: ok, that's an idea, thanks.
[23:46] <digitalirony> BUT
[23:46] <zykotick9> marcio: did you use a DEB to install?  if so, "dpkg -l | grep steam" to find the package name, then "sudo apt-get remove STEAMNAMEHERE"
[23:46] <digitalirony> you will probably end up chasing dependancies if you do that
[23:46] <dr_willis> homecable:  ubuntu uses Unity as the default. youtube has dozens of videos of it in use
[23:46] <marcio> digitalirony, i tried that but it didnt work
[23:46] <PedroP> digitalirony: ah...
[23:46] <marcio> zyko i did, let me try that
[23:46] <PedroP> digitalirony: i get that...
[23:46] <LovesLinux> steam beta :) beyond support if you ask me
[23:46] <PedroP> thanks
[23:46] <zykotick9> marcio: sorry, you might need to use "dpkg -l | grep -i steam"
[23:47] <homecable> i want something light abd useable for steam and videos mp3s firefox
[23:47] <digitalirony> PedroP: ok, np. Thats really the only simple way to do it without adding a 3rd party repo
[23:47] <zykotick9> !tab > marcio
[23:47] <digitalirony> homecable: try FVWM-crystal
[23:47] <dr_willis> homecable:  lubuntu is the lightest full featured desktop , then xubuntu, then its a tossup which is heaver. ;) kde, unity, gnome-shell..
[23:48] <digitalirony> homecable: or if you are technical, try awesome...but you prolly won't like it
[23:48] <digitalirony> but if you really WANT to go super light weight, get ratpoison o.0
[23:48] <digitalirony> but, you won't like that either
[23:48] <dr_willis> homecable:  if you got a system good enough to play most of the games on steam.. then the system should handle unity fine
[23:48] <gordonjcp> be careful though
[23:48] <gordonjcp> lxde isn't very fast
[23:49] <marcio> zyko it worked! thanks a lot man!
[23:49] <dr_willis> lxde seems fast at what it does here.. given how little it does. ;)
[23:49] <LovesLinux> homecable xfce or mate are the ones you want to try if you like gnome2
[23:49] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: yeah, but it's written to be small, not fast
[23:49] <digitalirony> marcio: I think FVWM-crystal will be something you would like if you try it. super fast
[23:49] <LovesLinux> tty1 suits me :)
[23:49] <dr_willis> cant say ive noticed it being slow at all.
[23:49] <digitalirony> I like awesome
[23:49] <marcio> i really love this irc, the ubuntu community and this room, you guys are always such great help
[23:49] <marcio> digitalirony, what is that?
[23:49] <dr_willis> should my menus be poping up faster or somthing. ;)
[23:49] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: if memory isn't an issue, it can be outperformed by "heavier" WMs
[23:50] <digitalirony> marcio: its a desktop system as you call it
[23:50] <digitalirony> replacement for gnome
[23:50] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: I tried awesome but I couldn't get it to work at all
[23:50] <digitalirony> its super light, and has many features
[23:50] <digitalirony> yeah awesome is hard for most people to use
[23:50] <marcio> i am using lubuntu right now
[23:50] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: yeah, I don't really want "hard to use"
[23:50] <dr_willis> jwm ;) + rox filer
[23:50] <digitalirony> I use arch linux + awesome on my PC
[23:50] <digitalirony> I only use ubuntu for my 'customers' here
[23:50] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: I used to use arch, but it got in my way
[23:51] <digitalirony> gordonjcp: yeah use FVWM-crystal then
[23:51] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: I spent more time fixing it than actually getting work done
[23:51] <digitalirony> its easy, and light weight, its reaaaly neat
[23:51] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: gosh, fvwm, that's a blast from the past
[23:51] <LovesLinux> mate looks good ?
[23:51] <pigeonor> awesome is great, had it running on my arch laptop
[23:51] <digitalirony> gordonjcp: I don't have that issue at all
[23:51] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: no thanks, I'll stick with Unity
[23:51] <digitalirony> ewww
[23:51] <pigeonor> @digital irony, i agree with you
[23:51] <digitalirony> why waste RAM on that shit
[23:51] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: because it's fast and makes my life easier
[23:51] <gordonjcp> which is kind of the whole point of using computers
[23:52] <digitalirony> I think as my technical skill goes up, using that stuff gets in my way
[23:52] <digitalirony> I like to not have to move my hands
[23:52] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: maybe, maybe not
[23:52] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: how do you type, then?
[23:52] <jCuber> Matter of opinion
[23:52] <digitalirony> I think the linux community at large tends to agree
[23:52] <digitalirony> hehe
[23:52] <moonvoniron> in system settings>hardware>additional drivers is locked , why ?
[23:52] <digitalirony> all of the 'old skool'/programmers aren't using unity or gnome I promise
[23:53] <digitalirony> gordonjcp: I move my fingers not my hands
[23:53] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: I disagree
[23:53] <jCuber> Guys
[23:53]  * kickingvegas uses Unity, happy with it.
[23:53] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: anyway, this is more for #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:53] <jCuber> #offtopic or PM :))
[23:53] <digitalirony> yeah
[23:53] <digitalirony> I know
[23:53] <digitalirony> im off my rant
[23:54] <moonvoniron> can someone help me ?
[23:54] <digitalirony> moonvoniron: maybe
[23:54] <marcio> anyone know if quakelive works in lubuntu? i downloaded a plug in thats needed but cant seem to install it
[23:54]  * jCuber knows you know, but someone did ask a question
[23:54] <liricmig> how?
[23:54] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: stuff like awesome where you need to edit 2000 lines of Haskell is *great* if you want to use a computer for playing with computers
[23:54] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: it's less fun if you actually want to *use* the thing as a tool
[23:54] <dr_willis> marcio:  it should work in  most any desktop
[23:54] <digitalirony> gordonjcp: awesome doesn't use haskell
[23:54] <digitalirony> thats xmonad
[23:54] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: whatever it is that it uses, to get it to not be tiny grey-on-grey text
[23:54] <StR> I can't find a way to get the a field value having the request or the form objects, anyone?
[23:54] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: ah, you're right
[23:54] <digitalirony> so stfu until you know what youa re talking about
[23:54] <cje2> moonvoniron, How can we help you
[23:55] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: anyway, it's not fun
[23:55] <LovesLinux> makes me laugh Linux has xfce gnome-shell, xfce, mate and yeah even kde m$ has explorer32.exe
[23:55] <digitalirony> gordonjcp: you dont' have to do that on awesome....
[23:55] <marcio> dr_willis, when i try it i get an .xpi plug in
[23:55] <digitalirony> at least not anymore than any other system
[23:55] <marcio> how do i install it?
[23:55] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: in order to avoid incurring the wrath of the ops, we should move this discussion to #u-ot
[23:55] <majin> any brasilian here?
[23:55] <gordonjcp> !br | majin
[23:55] <digitalirony> im done
[23:55] <digitalirony> hush
[23:56] <cje2> moonvoniron, just go ahead and ask your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will tell you.
[23:56] <majin> thanks gordonjcp im just looking for ppl to talk :)
[23:56] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: anyway, there is at least one "old school" programmer using Unity
[23:56] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: I used to use my own WM, but let's be honest, there are more useful things I can do with my time
[23:56] <digitalirony> I am sure there is atleast one, exceptions prove rules
[23:56] <LovesLinux> stallman using unity?
[23:56] <LovesLinux> lol
[23:57] <digitalirony> but REAL hackers use consoles
[23:57] <jCuber> cje2: His "Additional Drivers" in the Hardware menu is locked
[23:57] <LovesLinux> +1
[23:57] <digitalirony> and use sed/ed/awk/cat
[23:57] <digitalirony> not even vim
[23:57] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: no, real hackers use the right tool for the job
[23:57] <digitalirony> gordonjcp: which isn't unity lolol
[23:57] <cje2> jCuber, Oh, I don't know anything about that.  sorry
[23:57] <gordonjcp> digitalirony: anyone who starts all that "oh I only ever use CLI" nonsense is wasting their time and yours
[23:57] <digitalirony> anyway hush, im done, im not argueing with a wall
[23:58] <k1l> !ot | digitalirony LovesLinux
[23:58] <LovesLinux> Real hackers use Linux if your a new Linux user think good of yourself you know more than that person next to you using windows!
[23:58] <gordonjcp> LovesLinux: maybe, maybe not
[23:58] <jCuber> digitalirony: Who are you to define "real hackers"? I use BackTrack's fancy GUI metasploit. Jesus christ everyone has their opinion, and you obviously need to go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:58] <gordonjcp> LovesLinux: the person using Windows might know more about Windows
[23:58] <LovesLinux> why not then gordonjcp?
[23:58] <digitalirony> jCuber: thats a script kiddie bro
[23:59] <gordonjcp> LovesLinux: I can guarantee the person sitting next to me using Windows knows a lot more about Windows than me...
[23:59] <digitalirony> again, stop asking me stuff, I will keep answering it
[23:59] <digitalirony> this is offtopic convo,