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pleia2if you hit tab a couple of times it will tell you there are thousands of possiblities (4323 on mine)00:01
pleia2Display all 4323 possibilities? (y or n)00:01
pleia2that's not very practical though :) if you have some idea what the name of the application you want to run is you can also use tab completion, so for firefox you can do something like: fir and then hit tab00:01
Justakillpleia2: thanks00:05
Justakillpleia2: is the're a way to do it knowing the end of the program name?00:10
pleia2Justakill: for example?00:15
Justakillpleia2: *tex or something00:17
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c2tarunmy xubuntu brightness is getting reset to max after waking from sleep. Any solutions?03:40
holsteinc2tarun: i tend to just deal with those kind of things... you can try different graphics drivers... that not really an xfce/xubuntu issue.. i think its going to be more driver support for your specific hardware04:04
c2tarunholstein, actually the problem is a kernel issue, changing brightness quickly crashes my system. :( so I cannot change my brightness very frequently.04:13
c2tarunIf I can change it quickly I am ok with changing it everytime I boot.04:13
gobblinwhy not adjust the brightness of the monitor04:27
acuozzoHow do I restore the main menu?07:37
acuozzoI've deleted many items and it seems that removing entries it has in common with "Settings Manager" removes them from the "Settings Manager" as well07:37
acuozzoIncluding, absurdly, "Main Menu"07:37
baizonacuozzo: run alt+F207:38
baizonthen main menu07:38
baizonand there is a button "restore..." :)07:38
acuozzoYes, but restore didn't restore any entries07:38
acuozzoI tried that prior to closing out the Main Menu editor window07:39
acuozzoIt looks like the default menus are stored in /etc/xdg/menus07:42
acuozzoDoes anyone know where to restore the files to? I suppose somewhere in ~/.config07:43
acuozzoDamn. That one only includes the active menu entries07:45
acuozzophew07:52
acuozzogot it back07:52
acuozzoYou need to copy the entries from /usr/share/applications to ~/.local/share/applications07:53
acuozzoComing from the BSD world08:02
acuozzoWill I experience any difficult if I were to set my umask to 077?08:02
acuozzodifficulty*08:02
Justakillhey. When i type ~/.vim in terminal it tells me: Is a directory but if i try to cd into it it says no such directory. What am I supposed to make of that?10:07
xwalk_Justakill: What's the exact common you're trying to use to go into the directory?10:09
xwalk_command*10:09
TheSheepalso, what 'ls -ald ~/.vim' says?10:11
Justakillthesheep: 4096 Nov 12 21:33 /home/freec/.vim10:15
Justakillthesheep: this is what i got10:15
Justakillxwalk_: what did you mean by common?10:16
TheSheepJustakill: should be something like 'drwxr-x---' in front10:16
TheSheepJustakill: if there is a 'd' in front, then it's a directory10:16
JustakillTheSheep drwxr-xr-x 210:17
TheSheepyup10:17
JustakillTheSheep: okay well it does10:17
xwalk_I mistyped "command".10:17
TheSheepJustakill: by 'common' he meant 'command' :)10:17
JustakillTheSheep: not sure the 2 means either10:17
xwalk_Should have done a s/common/command.10:17
TheSheepJustakill: that's a number of references to that directory10:18
TheSheepJustakill: 2 means that there is only '.' and '..' inside it, so it's empty10:18
JustakillTheSheep: okay. Do you know why dosn't work?10:19
Justakillxwalk_: yea I used cd10:19
TheSheepJustakill: most likely you made a typo somewhere10:20
JustakillTheSheep: lol....... yes it would seem to be the case10:23
JustakillTheSheep: Thats the second time in two days i make a typo and start asking questions on IRC... This has to stop....10:24
xwalk_Well, just make a habit of using your up arrow when the command you think you typed doesn't work. You'll be able to stop and take a look at what you may have mistyped by looking at it that way.10:25
Justakillxwalk_: thanks for the advice.10:26
xwalk_Justakill: I have to do that a lot too. It tends to be a "command" mistake.10:29
x_http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/11/anti-virus-founder-john-mcafee-wanted-for-murder.html11:30
TheSheepx_: there is a #xubuntu-offtopic channel for random chat, feel free to join it11:33
x_sorry, was on the wrong channel when I posted that11:34
x_still, craziest story you'll read today11:34
TheSheepI read it yesterday11:34
tomatopotatodo you tink he did it?11:34
* x_ shrugs11:35
TheSheep--> #xubuntu-offtopic :)11:35
TheSheepsorry11:35
tomatopotatoso im back here11:36
tomatopotatoagain...11:36
tomatopotatoany idea how i can make my graphics card radeon x1950 work with xubuntu 12.10 runing kernel 3.5.0.18, glxinfo says accelerated, but glxgears gives a black screen, and other 3d accelerated for example games dont work11:36
tomatopotatohere we go xorg log http://pastebin.com/A3RCjF0A11:36
TheSheeptomatopotato: do you have more than one screen?11:38
tomatopotatono11:45
tomatopotatoonly one screen11:51
tomatopotatoTheSheep11:51
tomatopotatobtw. how can i check with apt for example what fglrx related stuff is installed on my comuter with apt?12:15
tomatopotatobtw and it seems like xubuntu installed some fglrx stuff http://pastebin.com/v8sV4Agd12:26
tomatopotatohow do i get in grub?13:29
tomatopotatowith f5?13:29
GridCubetab13:32
tomatopotatohi should i run update-grub or update-grub2 with xubuntu?14:15
GridCubethey are the same14:15
tomatopotatoso update-grub2 is no problem?14:16
tomatopotatook done14:17
tomatopotatothnx14:17
tomatopotatonow checking if everything is fine14:17
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tomatopotatook just FYI15:04
tomatopotatoi got my x1950 pro running with 12.115:04
tomatopotatoi got my x1950 pro running with 12.1015:04
tomatopotatoby adding the following kernel flag to grub "pci=nomsi"15:05
tomatopotatonow works fine15:05
tomatopotatowhat a miracle haleh luyah15:05
tomatopotatoall thanks to the help from agd5f from #radeon and thank you all to who tryed to help15:06
acuozzoDoes anyone here use an HP laptop with "Beats Audio"?15:35
c2tarunhi friends is there anyone who can help me in editing /usr/share/applications/*.desktop file? Here is my eclipse.desktop file http://paste.ubuntu.com/1355811/ I am getting error, I think something is wrong with EXEC line.16:25
tomatopotatohey guess what, i got my radeon x1950 working with the "radeon" driver just needed to add "pci=nomsi" flag kernel in grub16:26
GridCubewhats the error c2tarun16:26
c2tarunGridCube, Failed to execute child process "/home/tarun/eclipse" (Permission denied)16:27
c2tarunGridCube, and also there is no icon in application menu.16:27
GridCubec2tarun, where is the eclipse program residing? on a terminal type: whereis eclipse16:28
c2tarunGridCube, actually eclipse is not installed, latest eclipse doesn't need any installation. I can execute the executable directly and it'll work.16:28
GridCubeso the executable is at /home/tarun/eclipse?16:29
c2tarunGridCube, yes16:29
GridCubeor thats the folder for the executable?16:29
c2tarunohh... shit :( very sorry, my bad16:29
GridCube:) np16:30
c2tarunGridCube, thanks it is working now16:30
GridCube:D16:30
ircnode0somebody know what to delete to reset a profile? can't find .profile folder in home directory16:47
c2tarunircnode0, what profile?16:49
ircnode0c2tarun: desktop profile, I think. (when my friend log in, he's desktop looks funny)16:50
c2tarunircnode0, so you tried to change your looks and screwed something?16:51
ircnode0c2tarun: no. He doesn't know how to change profile.16:52
c2tarunircnode0, I dont think there is anything like desktop profile. Desktop settings are different for different user logins. If you can please explain your problem in detail, then somebody might help you. take your time to type in detail16:53
ircnode0when he opens any program there is no menu at all (e.g. firefox, thunar)16:54
ircnode0I have experienced this before. at that time I deleted a profile (can't remember what kind of profile) to solve my problem.16:55
holsteinc2tarun: thats what i was thinking.. a driver issue... you can try other kernels and see if a driver in one of them is more "friendly"... sometimes i just load up a bunch of live CD's and go with what is easiest.. or try other drivers if there are proprietary modules for your device17:11
holstein!ati17:11
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto17:11
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naxilxubuntuhello18:22
naxilxubuntulot of icone is disappear18:22
naxilxubuntuand have change look..18:22
naxilxubuntuis strange..18:22
naxilxubuntuhow i can reset the default xfce impostation?18:23
naxilxubuntui have xubuntu12.1018:23
acuozzoDoes anyone here use an HP laptop with "Beats Audio"?18:23
holsteinnaxilxubuntu: you can remove .hidden files... such as .config or other .xfce ones...18:24
naxilxubuntuwhere?18:24
naxilxubuntui have try to do this  mv ~/.config/xfce4-session/ ~/.config/xfce4-session-bak but xfce-session not exist on root18:25
acuozzoI can only get ALSA to recognize 4.0 of my 4.1 speakers. That is, I can't get it to recognize the subwoofer.18:25
holsteinnaxilxubuntu: i usually just look around in there... if it doesnt exist, you might be inputting the incorrect path.. i would do this *only* in the users account in question.. and in the user /home18:26
naxilxubuntuif i delete all the directory automatically xfce go to default?18:26
naxilxubuntui haven't user/.config/xfce4-session i have only .config/xfce is the same?18:28
naxilxubuntui can't change the theme18:28
naxilxubuntui can't see lot of iconm18:28
naxilxubuntuand some icon is different18:28
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thebiffmanAnyone know how I can disable bluetooth module in my xubuntu installation? The bluetooth module loads and the icon appears. But my system does not have bluetooth :P18:45
holsteinthebiffman: i just removed the icon.. but you can remove the package, or blacklist18:48
thebiffmanI guess if it doesnt hurt I could just remove the icon.18:48
holsteinhurt?... you can go in the session startup and disable it from starting18:49
unrarbye!19:47
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FFreakhi :)20:16
FFreakanyone here who could help me a bit with a prob @ Xubuntu :) ?20:17
SkippersBoss!ask > FFreak20:19
ubottuFFreak, please see my private message20:19
FFreak:) ok I have following problem:20:19
FFreakI got Win 8 / xubutu dual boot and today I bought a new HDD a bigger and faste one ^^ I made a clone of the first drive, Xubuntu is working fine and start from the right hdd but windows is alsways booting from the old hdd , how can I change that in grub ?20:21
FFreakI am kinda a Xubuntu noob :)20:21
FFreakAnd I dont want to ruin the menu.lst so I thought its better I ask before I do something very wrong20:22
FFreakahh sry I always write menu.lst I mean grub.cfg :)20:23
well_laid_lawnI would disconnect the old drive, boot xubuntu, run sudo update-grub, check it boots into windows, reconnect old drive and try again20:25
FFreakhmm I will try :) thx.  Be right back ^^20:26
xubuntu311so I am here again and it didnt worked :(20:35
xubuntu311ok I try other way. how can I manuelly make a new entry for dualboot windows 8 in grub.cfg :) ?20:43
SkippersBossxubuntu311, as this problme isn't limited to XU you might want to try the lively ubuntu discussion as well. Mayb someone else has had similar issues20:45
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LachezarHey all... Installed Xubuntu 12.10 from scratch, installed my Smart Card provider's lib*.so, but ssh-add -s fails: SSH_AGENT_FAILURE, Could not add card: /usr/lib/lib...so21:00
GridCubesmart card?21:17
LachezarGridCube: If that's to me: Yes, a Smart Card with a USB Smart Card Reader, using its keys as ssh keys.21:18
* Lachezar hates things going backwards on upgrade.21:19
GridCubeLachezar, are you sure you are using the proper .so? maybe theres a 64b and 34b version?21:22
GridCubei dont really understand how this things work sorry21:22
LachezarGridCube: Well... It's from a .deb from a repository. And it does work when used with pkcs11-tool, but SSH-Agent crashes. And it didn't until yesterday, when I migrated from 12.04 to 12.1021:23
GridCubeoh i see21:23
GridCubewell sorry i would not know :/21:23
LachezarGridCube: The most obnoxious piece: There are no log items in /var/log, or .xsession-errors, that would tell me what actually went wrong:(21:23
GridCubethere might be a --verbose flag for the program?21:24
LachezarThis channel is quite empty... And #linux was even less help...21:24
* Lachezar sighs and walks away to #ubuntu.21:24
LachezarGridCube: Yeah... However the SSH Agent is ran by the X11 initialisation scripts...21:25
GridCubethen it should be logged somewhere21:25
LachezarGridCube: My sentiments exactly! But alas: no luck on that. I even tries strace-ing the ssh-add, but it does not help. I see the error being sent from the SSH Agent, but still there is no reason for it.21:27
LachezarAnd an even worse part: If I run the SSH Agent manually: everything works!21:27
GridCubemmmm21:27
GridCubethen. you could add it to the xfce start instead21:28
LachezarGridCube: So I can't even debug the Agent, as it works under the debugger... Frack!21:28
LachezarGridCube: SSH Agent requires a bit weirder setup, as it gives off a few environment settings. And then. I'd hate to have two ssh agents running...21:29
GridCubemmhm i understand, but then you could take it of from cron?21:29
GridCubeLachezar, you should have a folder ~/.ssh/21:30
GridCubemaybe your logs are there?21:30
LachezarGridCube: I have .ssh, and there are no logs there :(21:31
GridCubedoes root have it?21:31
LachezarGridCube: Hm... The SSH Agent is not ran as root, but as the user (from /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90x11-common_ssh-agent)21:32
GridCubei see21:32
GridCubeLachezar, maybe this can help you; https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SSH_Keys#ssh-agent21:32
GridCubemaybe not, i dont really understand21:32
LachezarGridCube: That does help, if you have no ssh-agent running.21:33
GridCubeLachezar, the other thing i've found is this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=49387421:34
ubottuDebian bug 493874 in gnome-keyring "ssh-add -c reports SSH_AGENT_FAILURE and doesn't ask for confirmation" [Wishlist,Open]21:34
GridCubealso Lachezar http://forums.devshed.com/bsd-help-31/logging-ssh-shell-sessions-30398.html21:36
LachezarGridCube: Oh my! This is gnome-keyring sh*t...21:38
GridCubeo:21:39
* Lachezar crosses his fingers and prays that none of the Gnome sh*t has crawled into Xubuntu... That would be a shame.21:39
GridCubekeyring has always been there21:40
GridCubeif they mess it up then welp21:40
LachezarGridCube: Gnome has replacement for ssh-agent, gpg-agent and similar, that are 'integrated' with the Gnome. And they su*k if not ran under Gnome.21:42
GridCubeyou could ask xfce to start gnome services21:42
* Lachezar is trying to figure out which ssh-agent is installed...21:42
LachezarGridCube: Starting Gnome under XFce? What a shame :) I specifically mover from Ubuntu to Xubuntu to avoid it.21:43
GridCubeP: its just the services21:43
LachezarGridCube: Well... All of those g* programs that I'd like to avoid: orbs, buses, zeitgeist... No thanks...21:44
GridCube:/ then i dont know how to help you, sorry21:45
LachezarGridCube: Funny... SSH Agent comes from openssh-client...21:46
LachezarSo it *should* be the original one...21:46
LachezarGridCube: Thanks for the attempt anyway. Sorry to have wasted your time.21:46
GridCube:) dont worry, and good luck21:47
ddashHi, I have some upgrade issues, is this the correct place to ask questions?22:01
ddashI am unable to do release upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 (even after ticking the "For any new version" option in the synaptic package manager). When I run do-release-upgrade, it says "No new release found". Any suggestions?22:08
MmikeHi. terminal in xubuntu always starts at the centre of the screen - can that be changed?22:20
ddashany ideas on why do-release-upgrade is not showing any new releases (12.04 to 12.10)?22:21
knomeMmike, you might want to check out the application called gdevilspie22:23
Mmikeddash, you probably have it set up to show only upgrades to the LTS releases22:25
ddashMmike: I have set the option to "for any new version" in the synaptic package manager (non-lts versions) even then when I run do-release-upgrade, it doesn't show me any upgrades22:27
ddashMmike: Do I have to manually add quantal repositories?22:27
Mmikeddash, no, it should happen automatically, just asec22:28
knomeddash, did you do sudo apt-get update? :)22:29
Mmikeddash, did you start do-release-upgrade with -d option?22:29
ddashMmike, knome: I have done both22:30
knomeddash, what happens with update-manager -d?22:30
MmikeI just run it without -d, and got 'no new release'. then I run it with -d, and blastered my sources.list :)22:30
ddashMmike: you are awesome man!!! It turns out I had done update-manager -d and it did not work, but do-release-upgrade -d work!!!22:34
ddashMmike: Thanks a lot sir!!!22:34
Mmikenp :)22:34
LachezarGridCube: Found it: There was a 'Start Gnome Services' ticked on. I had to disable that, so that gnome-keyring does not override the ssh-agent.23:14
GridCubelol23:14
GridCubeit was the oposite of what i told you to do23:14
GridCubeXD23:14
LachezarGridCube: Now that I know, that it's gnome-keyring that overrides my SSH_AUTH_SOCK, I can look for a way to make gnome-keyring use my PKCS#11 library.23:15
LachezarGridCube: But until than Gnome Services are banned on my laptop once again :)23:15
GridCube:)23:16
LachezarGridCube: The next ugly thing is: Reading Gnome documentation it should work with PKCS#11 out-of-the-box.23:17
GridCubejajajaja23:17
GridCube:) good luck with that23:19
LachezarGridCube: Thanks. I expect this has something to do with not working: ** Message: couldn't set environment variable in session: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files23:20
LachezarGnome Services without Gnome... Yeah, right!23:21
GridCubeLachezar, remember that debian mailing list link i passed you? i think that one bears information you might need P:23:21
LachezarGridCube: Hmmm... Let me check again: This one? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=49387423:23
ubottuDebian bug 493874 in gnome-keyring "ssh-add -c reports SSH_AGENT_FAILURE and doesn't ask for confirmation" [Wishlist,Open]23:23
LachezarQuote: Sigh. Why do the gnome people have to be so insane? Oh well.23:24
LachezarQuote-Of-The-Day.23:24
acuozzoDoes anyone here use an HP laptop with "Beats Audio"?23:25
LachezarGridCube: It gets worse: #516230 (gnome-keyring daemon acts as ssh-agent even23:27
Lachezarwhen instructed not to)23:27
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GridCubeacuozzo, probably not but ask anyway23:34
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