[09:06] <mgz> morning!
[09:14] <jelmer> mgz!
[11:34] <quicksilver> it's a shame that bound offline commits *always* come through as a merge
[11:35] <quicksilver> if there have been no intervening commits to the bound branch they could just be pushed up.
[11:43] <jelmer> quicksilver: indeed
[11:44] <quicksilver> doesn't matter much but makes the log slightly fiddlier to read than perhaps it needs to me
[11:44] <quicksilver> and makes me choose between using "offline merge" as the commit message and forcing people to read the sub logs, or copying out the salient details.
[16:46] <delinquentme> Ok so I've got a project I've started locally ...  I want to *create* a remote repo which has this code with the  --no-trees option
[16:48] <mgz> delinquentme: what transports can you access remote with?
[16:48] <jelmer> delinquentme: you can just use the same command you would use locally
[16:49] <mgz> pretty much what jelmer said, unless you've only got http :)
[16:49] <mgz> jelmer: are you in our green and pleasant land yet?
[16:49] <delinquentme> jelmer, but bzr init-repo --no-trees /some/remote/server
[16:50] <delinquentme> how does bzr know whether im making a empty repo ... or whether i've got code that belongs in it?
[16:50] <jelmer> mgz: are you quoting "Jerusalem"?
[16:50] <mgz> delinquentme: right, but sftp://some/remote/server etc
[16:50] <mgz> always been a fan of blake.
[16:51] <jelmer> delinquentme: you would create the repo first, then push code into it
[16:51] <jelmer> mgz: :)
[16:52] <jelmer> mgz: I'm sitting in the train in Brussels, waiting for it to leave
[16:53] <mgz> ...and have been all day? :/
[16:53] <mgz> at least belgian trains are well connected I guess
[16:53] <mgz> or for the benefit of vila, in france, even the wifi would be on strike!
[16:54] <delinquentme> jelmer, does that automatically make the remote repo the parent?  IE will I have the expected   $ bzr push :parent and $ bzr pull :parent operations  ... that Im familiar with in projects that I've branched instead of initiated ?
[16:55] <jelmer> delinquentme: :parent is simply an alias setup in .bzr/branch/branch.conf, by default it gets set to the URL you cloned from
[16:56] <delinquentme> jelmer, so since im not cloning then I'll need to set that up right?
[16:56] <jelmer> delinquentme: well, if you want the local branch to consider the remote one as parent
[16:57] <jelmer> but, yes
[16:58] <delinquentme> jelmer, check!
[17:10] <delinquentme> bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(file:///home/thrive/rails_projects/ghgvc/GHGVC_RoR/trial/.bzr/branch/lock): Permission denied: "/home/thrive/rails_projects/ghgvc/GHGVC_RoR/trial/.bzr/branch/lock/pncf1lmgu4.tmp": [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/thrive/rails_projects/ghgvc/GHGVC_RoR/trial/.bzr/branch/lock/pncf1lmgu4.tmp'
[17:10] <delinquentme> this a permissions error?
[17:10] <delinquentme> i guess bzr needs write permissions?  .. and is there a bzr user?
[17:21] <delinquentme> jelmer, I think this is a really simple chmod issue no?
[23:15] <JPeterson> how do i disable tbzrcache?