[04:49] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1050776] kde4-window-decorator crashes when starting up with oxygen theme @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1050776 (by Iven Hsu)
[06:52] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1050776] kde4-window-decorator crashes when starting up with oxygen theme @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1050776 (by Iven Hsu)
[07:56] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1013626] systemsettings crashed with ImportError in /usr/share/kde4/apps/language-selector/language... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013626 (by Xavier Besnard)
[12:19] <Riddell> schedule the meeting: http://www.doodle.com/2wei2a87kq6sbgxf
[12:19] <Riddell> apachelogger: still planning on doing plymouth SRU and fixing ipod support and have you not found a better todo list then the channel /topic ?
[12:20] <jussi> Riddell: email sent
[12:21] <jussi> bah, these doodles are so annoying...
[12:21] <jussi> I have no idea what tomorrow holds, never mind a week from now...
[12:24] <jussi> Riddell: Hey, I like the urgent todo being in the topic
[12:37] <Riddell> jussi: which urgent todo?
[12:37] <jussi> Riddell: Haralds todo's :P
[12:40] <Riddell> he doesn't seem to be processing them very urgently...
[13:39] <ScottK> Probably just the alchohol related ones.
[13:43] <jussi> lol
[13:48] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:27] <apachelogger> ipod is supposed to get fixed by shadeslayer actually
[14:39] <Riddell> shadeslayer: is there a work item in that?
[14:55] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: the media-player thingum?
[14:59] <Riddell> ScottK: you said something about milestones the other day, can you remind me what that was?
[15:02] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: yes, the one you were supposed to talk to sune about
[15:02] <apachelogger> ...
[15:02] <shadeslayer> right, I'm not sure if Sune followed up on that ...
[15:05] <shadeslayer> silly users, report a bug, don't reply to call for testing
[15:05] <apachelogger> last I asked IIRC he had discussed it with the others but did not give me any results and since I am too lazy to go to another server to discuss stuff I do not actually care about...
[15:05] <shadeslayer> lemme ping him
[15:10] <Quintasan_> What kind of retar...
[15:11] <Quintasan_> shadeslayer, apachelogger: is it possible to determine which number out of 4 numbers is the highest one using only two compare operations?
[15:14] <apachelogger> Quintasan: context?
[15:16] <Quintasan> apachelogger: My friend told me he wanted me to help him with his homework, he has print the highest number out of 4 user supplied numbers
[15:16] <Quintasan> using two comapring operations
[15:16] <Quintasan> I told him it's impossible
[15:16] <apachelogger> as in programming or algorithmic homework?
[15:17] <Quintasan> apachelogger: AFAIR he told me they are still doing those flow charts
[15:17] <Quintasan> as in, no code
[15:17] <apachelogger> what's the course about though ^^
[15:17] <Quintasan> stuff like http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/91/LampFlowchart.svg/220px-LampFlowchart.svg.png
[15:18] <Quintasan> apachelogger: introduction to programming
[15:18] <apachelogger> oh brrrrrrrrr
[15:18] <apachelogger> well, you can technically do it using two comparisions but those would be in a loop
[15:18] <Quintasan> apparently the flowchart part should be done after brief introductuion and a few exercises but they will apparently have one on the test
[15:18] <Quintasan> apachelogger: in a loop?
[15:19] <Quintasan> how exactly would that work?
[15:19] <apachelogger> i.e. while (int a = read()) { if (a>max) max=a; if(a<min) min=a; }
[15:20] <Quintasan> hmm
[15:20] <Quintasan> Did not think of that
[15:20] <apachelogger> oh, the min check can go
[15:20] <apachelogger> then you are definitely at two comparisions in a flow chart
[15:21] <Quintasan> yeah, makes sense
[15:21] <yofel__> what's wrong with flow charts? They're a lot easier to write than the nassi-schneidermann stuff we did in school
[15:22] <Quintasan> I hate it
[15:22] <apachelogger> also algorithmic speaking it probably cannot be done, that is to say I know no algorithm that would find the highest of 4 in n/2 steps
[15:22] <apachelogger> not reliably anyway
[15:23] <apachelogger> i.e. with a useful initial seed ordering you'd get there with some
[15:23] <Quintasan> I could write a function to check is year n is a leap year in two lines
[15:23] <Quintasan> but prof wanted a flow chart that took the whole blackbord
[15:24] <apachelogger> well writing the codez and understanding what it means are two different things :P
[15:25] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: debian upstream says that they'd add it in their kde-*-desktop meta packages
[15:25] <shadeslayer> so we should just go ahead and add it to the seeds I guess
[15:25] <apachelogger> we should fix it properly
[15:25] <shadeslayer> upstream is being ... upstream
[15:26] <Quintasan> apachelogger: implying if ((year%4==0 && year%100!=0) || year%400==0) is hard to understand
[15:26] <apachelogger> I do not see why an ubuntu user installing the amarok package should get shitty experience
[15:26] <apachelogger> Quintasan: that is even hard to read :P
[15:29] <Quintasan> apachelogger: lol
[15:29] <Quintasan> You must have been doing python
[15:31] <shadeslayer> oh oh
[15:32] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: amarok recommends media-player-infoxs
[15:32] <yofel__> xs?
[15:32] <shadeslayer> virtual package, not sure what provides it
[15:33] <yofel__> oh right, someone please fix apt-cache's handling of virtual packages *-.-
[15:33] <shadeslayer> yeah :P
[15:33] <apachelogger> Quintasan: well
[15:33] <apachelogger> Quintasan: try writing that in x86 asm
[15:35] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: so the solution is to have every consumer of libsolid depend on that? Oo
[15:35] <yofel__> shadeslayer: if I remember the syntax of apt-cache depends right, then nothing provides xs, as it's in <>
[15:36] <shadeslayer> yeah, seeing how I can't find anything remotely realted to it, it seems we have a packaging issue :P
[15:36] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: *shrug*
[15:36] <apachelogger> exactly
[15:36] <shadeslayer> that's what upstream feels ....
[15:37] <yofel__> aptitude agrees: --- media-player-infoxs (UNAVAILABLE)
[15:37] <apachelogger> upstream feels that libsolid should be working :P
[15:37] <yofel__> so start by fixing amarok
[15:38] <apachelogger> what is xs?
[15:38] <apachelogger> it's called -info really
[15:38] <apachelogger> ah lol
[15:38] <shadeslayer> yeah
[15:38] <shadeslayer> like I said, some sort of packaging issue I guess
[15:39] <apachelogger> to the history
[15:39] <apachelogger> hm
[15:39] <apachelogger> I don't see it in the branch Oo
[15:39]  * apachelogger blind?
[15:40] <shadeslayer> +Recommends: kdemultimedia-kio-plugins (>= 4:4.2.0), media-player-infoxs
[15:40] <shadeslayer> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/112693094/amarok_2%3A2.6~rc1-0ubuntu2_2%3A2.6.0-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
[15:40] <apachelogger> yah
[15:40] <apachelogger> typos ftw
[15:40] <shadeslayer> possibly Riddell spelled it wrong?
[15:40] <apachelogger> also that is not in bzr
[15:40] <shadeslayer> heh
[15:40] <shadeslayer> what a surprise
[15:41] <apachelogger> last version in bzr is rc1 -.-
[15:41] <apachelogger> so at least two uploads that are not in bzr
[15:41] <apachelogger> so I get one, I do not get the second though
[15:41] <apachelogger> Oo
[15:42] <Riddell> moi?
[15:42] <apachelogger> yes, you again :P
[15:42] <apachelogger> someone please fix it, I need coffees
[15:43] <Riddell> mm, that looks broken indeed
[15:43] <shadeslayer> doing
[15:43] <apachelogger> by fix I mean fix the bzr
[15:43] <Riddell> sorry about that
[15:43] <shadeslayer> well ... doing both :P
[15:43] <apachelogger> the actual fix is to promote that thing from suggests to recommends on libsolid
[15:48] <shadeslayer> also SRU it?
[15:50] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yep
[15:51] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I'm processing e-mail and come across the "please package kdevelop xdebug" one again, did you respond at all?
[15:51] <shadeslayer> I have no idea what that is tbh
[15:52] <shadeslayer> and I forgot about it as well
[15:53] <shadeslayer> http://download.kde.org/unstable/kdevelop/kdev-xdebug/1.3.80/src/
[15:53] <shadeslayer> hmm
[15:53] <yofel__> seems to be http://nikosams.blogspot.de/2012/10/kdevelop-xdebug-php-debugger-beta.html if you want some more details
[15:53] <Riddell> there may well be a reason why it's not packaged
[15:53] <Riddell> I think I'll add a work item to investigate
[15:54] <shadeslayer> could you follow up on that? I have too much on my plate right now :)
[15:54] <Riddell> yep
[15:58] <shadeslayer> Riddell: there's a bunch of stuff to be packaged : http://download.kde.org/unstable/kdevelop/
[15:58] <shadeslayer> at the very end
[15:59] <Riddell> hmm, interesting
[16:02] <shadeslayer> Riddell: bug 1078772 filed
[16:03] <shadeslayer> can I go ahead and upload to quantal-proposed ?
[16:04] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yes but please add diff to the bug and subscribe ~ubuntu-sru
[16:05] <shadeslayer> righto
[16:05] <Riddell> Quintasan: word is there's a homerun release on download.kde.org, you're down for the work item to package it (if you can't do it soon mind and say so to release the lock)
[16:11] <ScottK> Riddell: I think you covered it on #u-release.  We have the milestones in the bug tracker now.
[16:19] <shadeslayer> Riddell: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/123020597/amarok.debdiff
[16:21] <shadeslayer> uploaded to proposed, pending approval
[16:24] <yofel__> btw. now that we do the automated upload stuff, does someone still use the dep-graph? I can generate the 4.10 one from neon, bug I'm wondering if it's worth the trouble (it's more than one or 2 changes)
[16:24] <yofel__> *but
[16:28] <Riddell> yofel__: if it's hassle then I think leave it and see if anyone complains
[16:29] <Riddell> folks skaet is wondering when we want an alpha 1 since we're probably the only flavour using it
[16:29] <Riddell> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule current december 6th
[16:29] <yofel__> well, 40 new items for kdegames, kactivities gets used by more things, nepomuk-widgets it new, and so on
[16:30] <Riddell> could be moved to january to pick up any work over the holidays
[16:30] <apachelogger> Riddell: we are the only flavor using alphas?
[16:31] <Riddell> apachelogger: some want 1 alpha
[16:31] <apachelogger> ah
[16:31] <apachelogger> well, IMHO january would be better
[16:31] <apachelogger> seeing as we probably won't have much to test by dec 6
[16:31] <Riddell>  
[16:32] <Riddell> January 10th then to catch KDE SC RC?
[16:32] <yofel__> ack, we'll need at least 2 weeks for just KDE judging from our packaging speed lately
[16:32] <yofel__> fine with me
[16:32] <apachelogger> oh sec
[16:32] <apachelogger> .10 b1 is out nov 21
[16:33] <apachelogger> yofel__: should be enough time to get it in?
[16:34] <yofel__> should be, we could just concentrate on the core stuff for beta1, and kdegames for beta2 or so
[16:34] <yofel__> then we won't have thing lying around in a half-done state
[16:34] <yofel__> *things
[16:34] <apachelogger> works for me
[16:34] <apachelogger> Riddell: dec 6 it is
[16:34] <apachelogger> yofel__: we should just make sure the base system works
[16:34] <yofel__> yeah
[16:35] <apachelogger> so we can point people at go download a1 and you'll get over the air upgrades to .10 pre-releases
[16:35] <yofel__> hm, that would be an idea too
[16:36] <Riddell> mm, I'm not sure pointing people at an alpha is a good way to recommend upgrading to KDE SC 4.10
[16:37] <apachelogger> pre-releases
[16:37] <apachelogger> to test .10
[16:37] <yofel__> it's not like we'll backport .10 until we have it fully packaged, which certainly won't happen for b1
[16:38] <apachelogger> actually it may be best to only start backports with rc1
[16:39] <apachelogger> by that time the sources should have settled enough to not cause major packaging changes between rc1 and final
[16:39] <yofel__> right
[16:41] <Riddell> Darkwing: ping?  I need your address
[16:41] <yofel__> so plan would be to package .10 b1 without kdegames, b2 with, and start backports with rc1 - fine?
[16:42] <Riddell> and alpha 1 after 4.10 b1 & alpha 2 after 4.10 final?
[16:43] <yofel__> ack
[16:43] <ScottK> IIRC from the schedule meeting, where things were before seemed to make sense.
[16:43] <yofel__> .10 b1 tagging is officially tomorrow, so we should have the sources by the end of the week
[16:46] <Riddell> skaet: we'll try and stick with alpha 1 where it is, dec 6th then
[16:46] <skaet> Riddell,  ok
[16:58] <shadeslayer> hmmm ... where's the amarok I uploaded to -proposed
[16:58] <shadeslayer> Riddell: do you see it in the queue?
[16:59] <shadeslayer> because I don't : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+queue
[16:59] <shadeslayer> oh wait, it's in unapproved
[16:59] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yes, in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=
[16:59] <shadeslayer> right
[17:01]  * shadeslayer is still waiting to be included in the steam beat
[17:01] <shadeslayer> *beta
[17:02] <Riddell> for all the hype about steam at UDS, nobody actually explained what it is
[17:02] <Riddell> I know it's a game engine but I don't know anything more about it, probably if you play games you already know and if you don't you don't care
[17:02] <shadeslayer> steam is a content distribution engine
[17:03] <shadeslayer> then there's the source engine
[17:03] <shadeslayer> which is the thing that powers games like TF2
[17:03] <shadeslayer> which is all I care about at the moment ;P
[17:07] <Riddell> TF2?  I never even knew there was a TF1, I'm so behind, do they still play sonic the hedgehog?
[17:08] <shadeslayer> lol
[17:08] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_Fortress
[17:09]  * yofel__ never played TF2 so far either, only watched videos of it
[17:10] <shadeslayer> I've played for a couple of hours, but then OS X got annoying
[17:11] <yofel__> heh, here my only win7 system doesn't have 10G free disk space :P
[17:11] <shadeslayer> haha
[17:13] <apachelogger> my win8 has 1.5 gib of free space
[17:13] <shadeslayer> I have 0 GB's of space for win
[17:14] <shadeslayer> -dows that is :P
[17:14] <apachelogger> delete some pleasure movies
[17:14] <shadeslayer> pft, stream all the pleasure movies 
[17:15] <apachelogger> bad idea
[17:15] <apachelogger> see, the internet is a series of tubes and if you put too much into it they get blocked and nothing gets thru anymore
[17:33] <ScottK> Digestion works that way too, once you get older.
[17:34] <apachelogger> :S
[17:34] <apachelogger> Oo
[17:34] <apachelogger> :O
[17:34]  * apachelogger leaves now
[17:35] <shadeslayer> haha
[17:36] <ScottK> Riddell: amarok SRU is accepted.
[17:36] <ScottK> shadeslayer: ^^^
[17:36] <shadeslayer> thx
[17:36] <ScottK> np
[18:00] <Riddell> ScottK: ah yes I was forgetting your elite new SRU powers
[18:01] <Riddell> ScottK: you should probably fix up my lack of SRU powers on bug 1067611, sorry about that
[18:03] <Tygart> quick question, no one is on the help forum
[18:03] <Tygart> I am using 13.03 During an sudo apt-get update / dist-upgrade the notification keeps saying Activity in session "Shell"  is something trying to SSH into my computer?
[18:04] <Tygart> 13.04*
[18:05] <Riddell> Tygart: no that means there's some visible activity, ssh wouldn't be visible
[18:05] <Tygart> Ok thank you. I haven't seen that message before.
[18:13] <shadeslayer> ooohh
[18:13] <shadeslayer> skanlite works over wifi just fine
[18:13] <Riddell> shadeslayer: ssh -X ?
[18:13] <Riddell> or networked scanner?
[18:14] <shadeslayer> the latter
[18:14] <shadeslayer> networked scanner + printer
[18:14] <Riddell> cool, good to know since I didn't actually test it
[18:14] <shadeslayer> and I'm on precise ....
[18:17] <shadeslayer> want me to test the new printer thingum as well?
[18:19] <Riddell> shadeslayer: mm, there is no new printer thingum on precise
[18:19] <shadeslayer> I have a quantal ISO, could virtualize and see
[18:20] <Riddell> go for it
[18:23] <shadeslayer> The last time I tried printing in my college ubuntu proceeded to print a 100 test pages
[18:29] <yofel__> never happened for me, and I've been using network printers since gutsy - depends on the driver though. My dad's canon printer refuses to print anything
[18:30] <shadeslayer> can't find the networked printer
[18:31] <shadeslayer> ah well
[18:31] <shadeslayer> the old printer app does find it
[18:31] <Riddell> hum
[18:33] <shadeslayer> as does cups
[18:33] <Riddell> hum
[18:33] <shadeslayer> http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/14/plasma-desktopsG7451.png
[18:33] <shadeslayer> possibly just due to KVM?
[18:35] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: kdebug is your friend
[18:45]  * yofel__ makes his way home - bbl
[18:46] <Riddell> shadeslayer: well if cups sees it then print-manager should see it
[18:50] <shadeslayer> any ideas what the username/pass is on the live cd?
[18:50] <apachelogger> kubuntu kubuntu most likely
[18:51] <shadeslayer> doesn't work
[18:53] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: kdebug doesn't show any issues
[18:53] <shadeslayer> *kdebug output 
[19:13] <Quintasan> Riddell: Will get to it today
[20:32] <Quintasan> yofel_: how do I do bot bugfilling magic?
[20:32] <yofel_> ~help newpackage
[20:32] <kubotu> newpackage <packagename> <version> [description]; Adds needs-packaging bug for entirely new package.
[20:32] <kubotu> newversion <packagename> <version> [description]; Adds update bug for existing package.
[20:32] <Quintasan> kubotu: newpackage homerun 0.1.0 Homerun needs packaging
[20:32] <kubotu> Package homerun already exists!
[20:32] <yofel_> no need to put something like "needs packaging" in the description
[20:33] <yofel_> that's already there
[20:33] <yofel_> it's meant for additional info like url to source etc.
[20:33] <Quintasan> durr
[20:33] <Quintasan> cant find bug for homerun packaging
[20:34] <yofel_> hm... that error should mean that there is already a source called 'homerun' in ubuntu
[20:35] <yofel_> Quintasan: have you ever seen an empty package history o.O? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/homerun
[20:35] <yofel_> first time for me...
[20:35] <Quintasan> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=homerun&searchon=names
[20:35] <Quintasan> nothing
[20:35] <Quintasan> xD
[20:35] <yofel_> yeah, but for some reason it's in the LP Database, that's all the script can check...
[20:36] <yofel_> the publishing history is empty too, wtf
[20:36] <Quintasan> and can't report bug against it
[20:38] <yofel_> kubotu: newversion homerun 0.1.0
[20:38] <kubotu> HTTPError: Package homerun not published in Ubuntu
[20:38] <yofel_> . . .
[20:38] <yofel_> -> #launchpad, this is broken
[20:38] <tsimpson> yofel_: I think that happens when someone uploads something to a PPA but it never existed in ubuntu
[20:39] <yofel_> hm
[20:39] <tsimpson> eg: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ferite1.0
[20:39] <tsimpson> I uploaded that to my PPA a long time ago, and it shows under "Other versions of ..."
[20:39] <yofel_> true, seems so
[20:39] <tsimpson> LP is a strange beast
[20:40] <yofel_> guess I'll need to add a publishing check to the script
[20:49] <Quintasan> agateau: THIS LICENSING ON HOMERUN
[20:49] <Quintasan> T_T
[20:49]  * Quintasan sheds tears
[20:49] <yofel_> what's the problem?
[20:50] <Quintasan> three licenses
[20:50] <Quintasan> plus BSD
[20:50] <yofel> sounds normal
[20:53] <Tm_T> 3+1 but only today!
[20:53]  * Tm_T goes salesman mode
[20:53] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I think usename/password on the live CD is ubuntu/none.
[21:07]  * yofel gives up on fixing the script
[21:07] <yofel> the API makes it really hard to catch that case
[21:11] <yofel> hm
[21:12] <yofel> found a way after all
[21:12] <yofel> if number of published sources in the main archive for exact matched package name "homerun" = 0 -> package not yet in archive
[21:13] <Quintasan> OH MY GOD
[21:13] <Quintasan> hahahahahahahahahahahhaaha\
[21:14] <yofel> I'm open for alternatives...
[21:14] <Quintasan> no
[21:14] <Quintasan> You're not
[21:14] <Quintasan> THIS COPYRIGHT
[21:14] <Quintasan> AHAAHAHA
[21:14] <yofel> uh...
[21:14] <Quintasan> THAT'S WHY I HATE PACKAGING
[21:14] <yofel> have you ever read the copyright of calligra?
[21:15] <yofel> (which is invalid btw.)
[21:15] <Quintasan> NOPE
[21:15] <Quintasan> DONT CARE
[21:15] <yofel> :D
[21:15] <Quintasan> I already cringe when I see thing licensed on GPL-2 or GPL-3 (at your choice)
[21:15] <Quintasan> xD
[21:17] <Quintasan> AND WHY THERE IS NO SOUND IN FLASH
[21:17] <yofel> blame your system
[21:18] <Quintasan> kmod:nvidia_current_updates - nvidia_current_updates (Proprietary, Enabled, Not in use)
[21:18] <Quintasan> >Not in use
[21:18] <Quintasan> what the hell
[21:19] <Quintasan> I blame this retarded abstraction layer called Phonon or PulseAudio
[21:19] <Quintasan> depending which one is at fault
[21:20] <yofel> Quintasan: bug 1078908
[21:21] <Quintasan> I fileed that
[21:21] <Quintasan> filled
[21:21] <yofel> so you did, duped
[21:22] <yofel> but now the script works at least
[21:23] <yofel> Quintasan: enjoy :P http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-dev-tools/trunk/revision/161
[21:23] <yofel> line 55 is esp. fun
[21:24] <yofel> worst thing is that this crap actually works right -.-
[21:24] <Quintasan> but still
[21:24] <Quintasan> >Not in use
[21:24] <Quintasan> kmod:nvidia_current_updates - nvidia_current_updates (Proprietary, Enabled, Not in use)
[21:24] <Quintasan> hahahahaha
[21:24] <yofel> apachelogger: can you update the script for kubotu please?
[21:25] <Quintasan> This line makes me wonder why I'm still using linux
[21:25] <yofel> well, what are you running?
[21:25]  * yofel hasn't used jockey in ages btw.
[21:25] <Quintasan> yofel: NO IDEA?
[21:25] <Quintasan> :D
[21:25] <Quintasan> That's the thing
[21:25] <yofel> check your x log, that will tell
[21:26] <Quintasan> nvidia
[21:27] <yofel> ah well, same here
[21:27] <yofel> kmod:nvidia_current - nvidia_current (Proprietary, Enabled, Not in use)
[21:27] <Quintasan> apparently that's the module loaded
[21:27] <Quintasan> and the screen compositing is not smooth T_T
[21:27] <Quintasan> I feel like an idiot running GTX570 and composition is not as smooth as my friends 2 years old laptop with some mobile version
[21:28] <Quintasan> and the damn homerun fails at tests
[21:28] <Quintasan> way to god
[21:28] <Quintasan> go*
[21:29] <yofel> well, in a day or two we'll have 4.10, then you can go back to everyday's insanity
[21:29] <Quintasan> which is?
[21:29] <Quintasan> packaging?
[21:29] <yofel> yep
[21:29]  * yofel wonders if the debian folks fixed qjson yet
[21:29] <Quintasan> I just want my os to use my gfx card normally
[21:31] <Quintasan> agateau: We have to skip tests for homerun for now
[21:31] <Quintasan> they don't work with xvfb or I'm being stupid
[21:31] <Quintasan> The latter is probably true
[21:31]  * yofel reboots
[21:32] <yofel> brb - probably
[21:33] <yofel> re
[21:39] <Quintasan> I'm so not going to do this copyright today
[21:39]  * Quintasan sipts
[21:39] <Quintasan> skips*
[21:39] <apachelogger> yofel: which one?
[21:39] <yofel> newpackage (kubuntu-dev-tools)
[21:40] <apachelogger> what's broken?
[21:40] <yofel> kubotu: newpackage homerun 0.1.0
[21:40] <kubotu> Package homerun already exists!
[21:40] <yofel> kubotu: newversion homerun 0.1.0
[21:40] <kubotu> HTTPError: Package homerun not published in Ubuntu
[21:41] <yofel> homerun exists, but without a published version as it only exists in PPA's
[21:41] <yofel> apachelogger: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-dev-tools/trunk/revision/161 works, feel free to look over it
[21:48] <Quintasan> ...
[21:48] <Quintasan> how the
[21:49] <Quintasan> apachelogger: usr/lib/libhomerun.so
[21:49] <Quintasan> usr/lib/libhomerun.so.0
[21:49] <Quintasan> usr/lib/libhomerun.so.0.0.0
[21:49] <Quintasan> The first two should go to dev package
[21:49] <Quintasan> shouldn't they?
[21:50] <yofel> the first
[21:50] <Quintasan> oh
[21:50] <yofel> the others go into libhomerun0
[21:50] <Quintasan> explains the rpath magic
[21:51]  * Quintasan has long forgotten the magics of library packaging
[21:52] <Quintasan> yofel: usr/bin/homerunviewer
[21:52] <Quintasan> any idea?
[21:52] <Quintasan> devel pacakge
[21:52] <Quintasan> lib package or the widget one?
[21:52] <yofel> uh, I have no idea what that thing does so don't ask me
[21:53] <Quintasan> agateau: usr/bin/homerunviewer <-- to which package should it belong?
[21:53] <yofel> if it's only useful for devel then put it into -dev, otherwise make a bin package for the executabled
[21:53] <yofel> s
[21:53]  * Quintasan puts it in dev for time being
[21:53] <Quintasan> those are funny
[21:53] <Quintasan> usr/lib/kde4/imports/org/kde/homerun/components/libcomponentsplugin.so
[21:53] <Quintasan> usr/lib/kde4/imports/org/kde/homerun/fixes/libfixesplugin.so
[21:53] <Quintasan> usr/lib/kde4/homerun_source_recentdocuments.so
[21:53]  * Quintasan puts them into widget package
[21:58] <Quintasan> done for today
[21:58] <Quintasan> will do copyright tomorrow and ask someone to review before I upload
[21:58]  * Quintasan feels a little bit rusty
[22:16] <apachelogger> Quintasan, yofel: well, the overly precise library expert would argue that stuff should link against x.x.x rather than x.x ;)
[22:16]  * yofel never said a thing about linking
[22:47] <Riddell> shadeslayer: live cd username is kubuntu and password is empty
[22:47] <shadeslayer> didn't work when I tried it ...
[22:50] <tsimpson> isn't the live cd username "ubuntu"?
[22:52] <Riddell> tsimpson: that got changed recently
[22:53] <tsimpson> finally :)
[22:54] <Riddell> Quintasan: there is daily build packaging for homerun in ~cyberspace which you can base it on
[23:54] <shadeslayer> I don't think the blue-shell packaging had proper copyright, though I might be wrong
[23:55] <shadeslayer> interesting, we do, but .... I don't think that's right .... :P