[00:00] I was really thinking about going there but this'll make sure I do it I suppose [00:00] it's not fixed in the ppa either [00:00] or.... [00:01] nope, it's not [00:01] would reinstalling kate maybe fix it? [00:01] I can try it I suppose [00:01] not really, unless you pull kate from raring [00:02] it's a patch that was dropped by accident when it was repackaged [00:02] I can confirm, reinstalling kate doesn't work [00:02] is installing the ia32-libs package, which installs a suite of i386 libraries... going to cause any compatibility/dependency issues? [00:03] I was reading up on it, hoping a work around would pop up, I saw it's fixed in what I thought was 4.9.3 but its not [00:03] xixor: there shouldn't, and I don't know of any in quantal. If there are it would be a bug === moonvoniron is now known as [MoOn__] [00:26] yofel: im with a serious problem, i have deleted the ppa and created another one, and now im trying to upload the packages to it but it says they already exist which is false [00:27] yofel: why is launchpad lying? [00:40] simplew, how did you delete that ppa? ppa-purge? === Vito is now known as Vito_away [01:08] OerHeks: no, i used the browser [01:09] OerHeks: do you use to package? [01:13] simplew, if you didn; t use ppa purge, lauchpad is not lying. [01:44] What is the best way to get kubunto to zoom in where my mouse is? I want to record my desktop, and when discussing certain features, be able to zoom in on them === deadc0de_ is now known as OxDeadC0de [02:08] I am having issues with the KWIN zoom in / out. Any time I ener the Meta Key and another key, the run command box appears at the top of my screen. How can I disable this? In settings desktop effects, zoom Meta+= is default zoom in Meta+- is default zoom out, but again all I get is the run command bar [02:09] Odd. I just get the + and - glyphs in this text entry box, no ALT effect at all. ALT-F2 brings up krunner. [02:22] hmm [02:22] sup [02:24] Trying to get desktop zoom to work [02:25] anytime I hit Meta+ and key it opens up the Run Command box at the top of my screen [02:25] perhaps it isn't called Run Command, but if I right clcik on desktop and select Run Command that is the box that appears [02:25] I hate linux. is meta=alt? or is meta=windowsKey? [02:26] WindowsKey [02:26] lol [02:26] I can't find where to set the shortcut key for the run command box [02:26] alt+f2 is default [02:27] bjrohan: try using it with your browser or open a PDF or word doc [02:27] yep. alt+f2 and Meta any key give same result :-( [02:28] Tygart: In browser, nothing happens [02:28] And that is what I need to zoom in on with while recording my desktop [02:34] Maybe it doesn't work at all I tried reassigning it to ctrl+0, and nothing happens [02:35] bjrohan: are you using the +&- on thats by the 10key or the ones above the letters [02:35] Ones above letters, I am on a laptop [02:35] ok [02:39] It seems none of my desktop effects are working :-( [02:39] I will log out and back in [02:44] I run chrome on kubuntu 12.10, but when i want to see mij IP cam, it doesn't work .. in Firefox it does [02:51] hello everyone [02:51] hi phoenix_firebrd [02:51] OerHeks: hi [02:54] OerHeks: do you use microblogger plasma widget with twitter? [02:54] I just installed 12.04 on my new laptop (Asus A53U) My wireless card is an Atheros AR9485. My wireless connection is very slow. Ihave it hooked through the ethernet to get a connection. I updated hoping it would help, but it didn't. Can someone help me with this? [02:56] phoenix_firebrd, no, i use the webthingy [02:56] OerHeks: ok [03:19] hi all [03:19] nice to meet you === raindog is now known as Guest74445 [03:38] hi [03:38] i'm having a bit of a problem with printers (you know, those things we always have when we deal with printers... problems) [03:39] this one's a little interesting and i've actually damaged the printer in frustration trying to get the thing to stop printing [03:39] I heard a story once, from a wandering bard, who claimed to have heard of someone who installed a printer without problems once [03:40] it's a Lexmark e250d, and i set it up as a generic printer as PLC 6/PLC XL Foomatic/pxlcolor, the default [03:40] this has been extremely hit or miss [03:40] sometimes i'll print something, and it will come out perfect [03:41] other times, with the same document, it appears the printer misinterprets the stream to it and it prints out binary as if it was plain text [03:41] let's just say this household now has a lot of scrap paper with smiley faces, umlauts, and question marks [03:41] any ideas of what i can do? [03:42] i tried postscript configuration but the printer does not like that [03:42] does not respond at all, just removes the job from the queue [03:44] oh great, now it's angry at me [03:45] meoblast001, this old 2009 tutorial should still be valid >>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1158367 [03:45] followed that [03:45] the PPD file does not appear to work [03:45] my printer should not even have an IP address anyways [03:46] Is it connected with USB ? [03:46] yes [03:46] Then choose local printer, etc [03:46] in the CUPS admin or in the KDE printer configuration? [03:47] you can choose, localhost:631 is the old way [03:47] the name of the Lexmark printer appears [03:47] i select that and hit forward [03:47] if i select lexmark, mine does not appear on the list [03:47] so my only option appears to be generic [03:50] Ubuntu test print works fine on default settings again [03:51] meoblast001, check the resolution, some drivers cannot handle 600x600, set it to 300x300 dpi [03:53] well, the same document can print different each time i send it to the queue [03:53] it's on 300 [03:53] i guess i could just live with it until it happens again [03:56] now i'm frustrated at myself for breaking the plastic piece off the back === guiller is now known as AnonGodLike [05:20] my husband uses korganizer, he has ubuntu 10.10 with korganizer on his old drive, and his new drive has 12.04 [05:20] can someone help us move his files so his new one has them? === claudio is now known as Guest19258 === brandyn is now known as simonfunk [06:17] anyone know why the nvidia x server settings gui, sometimes launches, sometimes doesn't and no matter what, takes a long time to load === pjoe_afk is now known as pjoe [06:28] morning [06:28] is nvidia nouveau driver default for 12.10? [06:29] BluesKaj: and.. got some sleep? ;) [06:32] anyone know why the nvidia x server settings gui, sometimes launches, sometimes doesn't and no matter what, takes a long time to load? [06:35] vbgunz: you mean on startup.. the nvidia logo hangs some seconds? [06:35] or nvidia-settings program? [06:35] the nvidia program from the menu [06:36] my problem with 12.40, nvidia-updates is, that if desktop effects are enabled, after minutes i can't really work, i need to disable desktop effects.. [06:36] on 12.04 with an older nvidia it worked perfect. [06:36] for some reason, I click it and it shows launch feedback but it either doesn't launch at all or takes a very long time to show up [06:36] vbgunz: what dirver do you use? nvidia or nouveau? check /etc/X11/xorg.conf [06:37] nvidia driver, the experimental 3.10 as I am an undercover beta tester [06:37] vbgunz: start it from console: nvidia-settings [06:37] there will be some gtk errors, also in my situation, but maybe you see some more errors.. [06:37] yeah, not sure why I didn't think about it before [06:38] vbgunz: 3.10 is ok for desktop effects? [06:38] it's ok, the biggest desktop effect game changer in kubuntu is the kde 4.9.2+ dekstop. [06:38] i have official 304.51 (nvidia-updates) but desktop effects after minutes getting slow and maschine is not really usable.. so need to disable effects [06:39] vbgunz: I'm running the nvidia 3.10 drivers and just loaded the nvidia settings app from the menu. Opened in 2 seconds. [06:39] vbgunz: what you mean exactly? you mean problem in 4.9.3? [06:40] DarthFrog: yeah, the nvidia-settings gui doesn't pop up in 2 seconds. when it does, it will do it in 20 or not at all [06:41] noaXess: I am not saying KDE is the problem, just saying performance in KDE doesn't go up through the roof until you hit the 4.9.2 series [06:41] KDE in in 12.04 must have been horrid [06:41] vbgunz: ok.. [06:42] all thats bothering me now is I have no ideas why nvidia-settings takes forever to load up if at all [06:42] vbgunz: i was happy with 12.04 and KDE.. but no in 12.10 and KDE 4.9.3 some issues in effects.. i live them ;) but.. can live for the moment w/o them [06:42] it's the only program doing that, everything else is super responsive [06:43] vbgunz: was it also with the nvidia 304 version? [06:44] I never really tested 304 on Kubuntu 12.10, I sort of just made a fresh install and jumped up to 3.10 based on Steam coming to Ubuntu exclusively [06:45] I wanted to check things out and although everything is pretty much perfect, the nvidia-settings gui is so slow to launch and open, it's terrible [06:45] vbgunz: Coming to Ubuntu initially. No doubt it'll be available for RPM distros in short order. [06:45] vbgunz: You could just open it once and leave it open. [06:46] DarthFrog: yeah, it should be coming but Ubuntu is no doubt leading in more areas and I used to use it more than a year back. I'm back trying it out again and it's great. Just the nvidia-settings is bugging me out atm, nothing else like it [06:47] DarthFrog: I have 3 monitors so bouncing between them using the nvidia-settings gui is important, it just sucks to have to wait 20-30 seconds for the app to launch [06:47] So don't close it. [06:48] if you're capable of parsing the output, you could try running it under strace and see where the hang-up is occurring. [06:49] DarthFrog: I don't predict I'll be switching monitors for a little while, I hate having something in the task bar running I know I just don't need atm, I have no real clue why it bothers me but I close apps I am not using if they're present in a way that appears they require usage [06:49] From the command line: strace nvidia-settings [07:42] can someone help us move his files so his new one has them? [07:42] my husband uses korganizer, he has ubuntu 10.10 with korganizer on his old drive, and his new drive has 12.04 [07:42] can someone help us move his files so his new one has them? === pjoe is now known as pjoe_dj [07:53] chalcedony: do you know how to use rsync? [07:54] jedihawk, not sure? [07:55] jedihawk, are you wanting to use it? [07:56] rsync is a tool for copying files. very handy when updating remote filesystems. are you talking about copying files from one drive to another? [07:56] ahh [07:57] jedihawk, ok [07:57] yes [07:57] then maybe you don't need rsync. are both drives connected? [07:59] ok yes [07:59] i didn't think he was able to have them both at the same time, but he does [08:01] chalcedony: then it's probably just a matter of opening two dolphin windows and drag-n-drop copy from one to the other. [08:01] Rsync also works on two directories ;) [08:01] ah [08:02] he's having a migraine, so now that i have help he needs to lie down [08:02] we will have to try to do this later [08:02] i'm sorry [08:03] chalcedony: no worries. [08:03] lordievader: yup! === toni_ is now known as Guest6630 === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ === david is now known as Guest46061 === Guest46061 is now known as thekleine === ravindra is now known as Guest7601 [10:37] can someone help me install unity-2d on kubuntu 12.10? === Mamarok is now known as Guest54651 === Guest54651 is now known as Mamarok === ubuntu is now known as Guest36797 [10:47] buongiorno ragazzi posso chiedervi aiuto per problemi su kubuntu === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [11:56] using konsole, the terminal always prompts me for a passphrase to unlock keys where as in ubuntu with gnome, there was a gui popup that handled it and could handle it (and keep unlocked till logout). I've got seahorse installed as well btw. Is there a setting to make seahorse handle key unlocks or a default application that's used on kde? [12:00] markovh: try ksshaskpass [12:02] is there anyway of getting seahorse to handle it? [12:02] markovh: in KDE you'd most likely want to use kwallet [12:03] i've got that installed as well but it doesn't prompt when unlocking the keys [12:08] hi [12:08] markovh: a quick google suggest this http://www.pontohonk.de/kde/ssh.html but I have not tried it myself [12:09] hateball: yeah i did shortly after i said that and implemented it. It's not prompting me any more with any sort of gui after i did ssh-add [12:10] not too sure that's what i want but i'll stick with it for now [12:15] markovh: well if you've opened the wallet it stays open for the rest of the session by default. you can change that behavior ofc === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ === cryptfu_ is now known as Guest36259 === Vito_away is now known as Vito [13:38] i have the problem that my vga2 device doesnt enable me to set the resolution to fullhd [13:38] where can i change this? [13:44] hey guys [13:45] how do i do distro upgradefrom the commnad line? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade doesnt do it [13:48] n8w: did you first sudo apt-get update ? [13:48] Hi all [13:52] #ubuntu-de === kubuntu is now known as Guest99959 === pjoe_dj is now known as pjoe_afk [14:04] Question about Okular...it seems that it (unlike Acrobat Reader) allows you to save your entries to any fill-in PDF form, but the entries are only visible to Okular, that is, you cannot save them so they are visible to other PDF viewers, like evince. Is that correct? [14:07] mparillo: ye...it has been solved...do-release-upgrade works ok [14:11] mparillo: hmm that's surprising [14:11] mparillo: sounds like a bug? [14:12] Upstream, I assume? So bugs.kde.org and not Launchpad? [14:39] mparillo: yes I think so [14:40] Will do. I will construct a clean test case and report it there. Anything interesting, and I will update here. === spawn[dead] is now known as spawn57 [15:00] why my gamma settings does not affect real picture? [15:00] kubuntu 12.10 [15:00] nvidia.. [15:02] swex, depends on the monitor settings as well . === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [15:13] BluesKaj: but why changes I make in nvidia-setting doesn't work? [15:13] swex: some settings in nvidia-settings have to be done using !sudo [15:14] hateball: no, still not [15:14] hateball: I just want to change gamma, and can't [15:16] Hi. I'm running kubuntu 12.10 inside VirtualBox, and I have problems with enabling OpenGL in KWin. I have the vbox-guest-additions, and the driver seems present and detected, plus glxgears says it draws many FPS. Is something in KWin then? [15:17] have you installed the guest additions? [15:17] ah, sorry, I cannot read [15:19] swex: my kubuntu VM is using XRender [15:20] xixor: mine is using xrender too, but not all effects work well [15:20] swex: I have it spanned full screen across 3 monitors, and I have all desktop effects disabled. It's working, and I don't want to fiddle with risk of breaking it. Everytime I play with anything related to graphics it completely breaks how the monitors are layed out [15:51] does KDE have as good package manager as Synaptic? [15:51] smj: Muon is very good [15:52] let me check [15:53] smj: If you do not really care about graphics, Synaptic runs well on Kubuntu :) [15:55] that's what I've been using for years [15:58] lordievader, you can make the synaptic graphics look exactly like other kde apps if one takes the time to set it up in systemsettings with kdesudo in the krunner [16:00] set up gtk apps that is [16:00] Muon doesn't seem to be quite there yet... when switching filters it shows you a blank package list way too often, instead of what should be there [16:01] I prefer synaptic's approach to prefernces and other options to muon and apper === david is now known as Guest28689 [16:02] Why is my load average up over 2.0 when I'm not doing anything, and why is "nepomukservices" using half of one of my cores? === spawn57 is now known as spawn[dead] [16:07] ptomblin: How many CPU cores does your system have? [16:10] 8 - it's an i7 [16:12] It's settled down now - load average is 0.44. Now it's ksysguard that's top of "top" [16:14] ptomblin: Then a load of 2 is not a problem, however Nepomuk taking up 100% on a core isn't good. [16:15] I had just rebooted because the load average was up over 3 for no reason, and postgresql was slow as a dog. Everything seems better now. [16:16] ptomblin: An i7 should be able to handle at least 4. Or 8 if you count in the virtual cores. [16:17] I know, that's why I rebooted. Something was badly wrong. A task I do several times an hour in postgresql was taking minutes instead of seconds. === L3top is now known as sicky_pop === mynick_ is now known as brun0 [17:23] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=310095 [17:23] KDE bug 310095 in PDF backend "Fill-In Form data saved for Okular but not Acrobat Reader or Evince" [Normal,Resolved: upstream] [17:24] The upstream resolution is to tell users that saving XFA data will not be supported. [17:24] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55978 [17:24] Freedesktop bug 55978 in general "Filled acroform with XFA dataset shows old values if opened in acroread" [Normal,New] [17:26] Short version: Saving unsupported XFA data appears to work in Okular, but that may end soon. I suppose an off-topic debate is whether it is better to appear to work for some use cases or to fail loudly with unsupported input. [17:50] I am using Kubuntu 13.04 [17:50] During an sudo apt-get update / dist-upgrade the notification keeps saying Activity in session "Shell" === andrea is now known as Guest56488 === Guest56488 is now known as andrea_ [18:07] Solved === qwerty is now known as Guest85072 === Guest85072 is now known as qwertyuiop === qwertyuiop is now known as commentator === moonvoniron is now known as [MoOn__] [19:19] hi... my lightdm-kde is not showing anything other than kde [19:19] i want to go into unity, i also have gnome3 installed [19:27] figured it out... kinda [20:21] how can I set up Kate to highlight the openning and closing tag of where my cursor is in an XML file? [20:24] hi guys !! [20:25] sup [20:32] Ah excuse my incompetance; I am a new user to Kubuntu, well Linux in general and looking to set-up the gnu toolchain: make, gcc, gdb, etc. I also seem to be failing at getting documentation on doing it, any links or documentation suggestions? [20:34] Gremble: welcome [20:34] Gremble: did you install those packages, using muon or apt-get yet? [20:34] Yes, I checked all of them are there. I also got Vim and gedit as I found out people suggested them as editors [20:34] Gremble: For those things there is an easy meta-package, build-essentials. [20:35] I currently use Code::blocks as IDE but I want to learn new things [20:35] Gremble: Cool. I've used code::blocks, it was good, but I really, whole heartedly, 100% recommend qtcreator [20:36] Gremble: People get pretty evangelical about editors and IDEs though... good for you for trying things out, find what works best for you [20:37] Sec, I let me change to my linux box. I have a silly internet connection [20:37] Gremble: so you have them installed. Everything working? === django is now known as kingdjango [20:41] Sorry about that [20:42] I was on my PC when I suddenly had an urge to do research [20:42] I'm on Kubuntu 12.10. I have no ppas enabled and I am on a fresh install. twice today Kubuntu completely froze solid. A hard reboot needed twice and I have no idea where to begin figuring out why. Does anyone know where to start? what logs to look at? [20:43] Gremble: sudo apt-get install build-essentials [20:43] Gremble: Run that command from a terminal. [20:44] Gremble: I also recommend QtCreator for an IDE and Kate for a text editor [20:46] I could only get "build-essential" but I assume it is the same thing... haha [20:46] Kate I have, QtCreator Ill try. Thanks [20:47] Gremble: Ah yes, that's the one. [20:47] Ok, I should've asked, what exactly is this that I am installing? [20:48] Gremble: It is a meta-package with all sorts of compilers and other things needed to compile and make software from source-code. [20:48] Gremble: Short: It's a package that contains all necessary packages in order to develop in C/C++ [20:48] the system tray widget on the main pannel for me keeps becoming REALLY big and squishing the task manager . How can i resize it? i tried deleting it and putting it back... BIG MISTAKE now the task manager is about 2 cm... the system tray doesn't even have anything on it === yofel_ is now known as yofel [20:50] Ok. Fantastic thanks. [20:50] markovh: you could try to use a spacer, but usualy there are some proceses that make the system tray be very large. [20:50] ovidiu-florin: tried that as well [20:51] doesn't resize it... seems a bit strange there's no way to resize widgets... [20:51] markovh: they autosize [20:51] yeah that doesn't seem sane [20:51] markovh: it depends on their content [20:52] for exactly this sort of reason actually [20:55] markovh: check what applications appear in the system tray === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw [20:57] markovh: somewidgets are set to take up all the available space, like the Task Manager widget [20:57] if you wish to shrink it you can use a spacer widget [20:57] markovh: click the litle yellow (Thing) next to the clock and it will pop up, in the middle of the pannel it says "Height" And Screen edge. [20:58] to the right of the clock* [20:58] grab height and drag it up. [20:59] markovh: I was reffering jut to the width of the widget, the height is determined by the panel height, as Tygart said [20:59] What widget [21:00] ovidiu-florin: sorry looked at the wrong name? [21:00] name.* [21:02] damn, I am a bit stuck. my system has frozen twice today and I am a bit clueless where to start figuring things out. how can I troubleshoot this in case it happens again? [21:03] vbgunz: first make sure you have the latest updates installed [21:03] vbgunz: then start looking in /var/log [21:03] vbgunz: The syslog and dmesg log are a good place to start. [21:08] ovidiu-florin: i wasn't refering to height either, that has nothing to do with it [21:09] did a restart and added it in again it seems to have resized back to a regular size now but seems like a terrible way of fixing it [21:11] markovh: This happened to me as well, adn I found that there was a process that appeared there about 5 times, and made the System Tray widget hudge, so I just killed that process (5 times) and it was ok. No ideea waht process was that. It was nothing familiar [21:11] hmm in syslog, I went back to the second it froze, I know it right down to the second because my systray clock displays seconds and recorded the exact time everything froze. this is what I found, anyone know what's up? http://paste.kde.org/606860/ [21:12] is there a way to colapse all in Kate? [21:14] solved. [21:15] vbgunz: sounds like your hard drive or your ata subsystem is throwing a DRDY ERR. I don't know what that is [21:15] vbgunz: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=147546 [21:16] vbgunz: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/ata1-01-status-%7B-drdy-err-%7D-896401/ [21:16] vbgunz: [21:16] vbgunz: http://superuser.com/questions/121391/sata-drives-or-chipset-throwing-drdy-err-and-icrc-abrt [21:16] vbgunz: in that last one, someone says, "DRDY ERR messages actually seems to be reported as a kernel bug in a lot of systems which seems to relate a lot with Ubuntu and to a smaller extent Debian." and there is some discussion on it [21:17] vbgunz: sorry to inundate you with information, but I think doing some google research might be a good option for you at this point, just finding out if this is a known problem, or a known hardware problem, etc [21:19] xixor: yeah, the info is great, I was googling what I could. if its worth anything, I have kubuntu installed on an external sata disk. a 32bit installation on a 64bit system. [21:21] how do I translate 'ata9.00' to something more understandable like /dev/sdx? [21:22] vbgunz: I'm not sure how to translate it. Someone else might know, or might be a good question for #linux ? [21:23] vbgunz: afaik, none of those things: 32bit system, eSata disk, should be a problem. Could it be a faulty cable? intermittent cable? failing hard drive/ [21:23] vbgunz: you might want to check the smart status of the drive [21:24] yeah, I'm looking into hdparm now otherwise I'll be on it a minute [21:27] vbgunz: er, I mean "both of those things shouldn't be a problem" above [21:28] vbgunz: I don't know much about it, but there are different hard drive settings in the bios... ahci, atapi, ata.. I can't remember how many there are, or what the differences are.. but it could be something to look into as well [21:28] I'm thinking ata9.01: is probably referring to my cdroms, it keeps coming back in google queries. I'm gonna try in #linux [21:37] xixor: turns out, from #linux, I grepped dmesg for ata9 and found out it is my cdroms [21:38] vbgunz: hm.. ok [21:38] vbgunz: but still, that error might not be related to your instability [21:39] vbgunz: take a look in /var/log/kern.log, message, syslog, and focus in on the time of the crashes to see if there are any other messages [21:40] kerl.log looks almost exactly the same as sys.log [21:42] ok === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ === lucky__ is now known as lucky123__ === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw [23:18] aah, back in xchat in linux. mmmmm, happiness. [23:19] * jedihawk still has no life though. [23:31] jedihawk: I've never liked xchat [23:33] xixor, I love it. [23:35] It's gtk, right? [23:35] xixor: do you know how to get dolphin to not leave .directory files all over the place? [23:35] jedihawk: no idea. Are you showing dot files? hit alt . to hide them in dolphin [23:36] xixor: no, usually I don't have hidden files shown. But they show up in other programs, and clog up my jungledisk and dropbox shares. Very annoying. [23:37] ah, I think if you disable storing view preferences for every folder, it won't add them [23:37] xixor: good idea, thx. [23:37] Settings->Configure Dolphin->General-> REmember properties for each folder [23:37] I turn that off in windows explorer, finder, and dolphin, first thing I do on any installation on any OS === shumski is now known as shumski_out