[00:00] <vbgunz> I was really thinking about going there but this'll make sure I do it I suppose
[00:00] <yofel> it's not fixed in the ppa either
[00:00] <yofel> or....
[00:01] <yofel> nope, it's not
[00:01] <vbgunz> would reinstalling kate maybe fix it?
[00:01] <vbgunz> I can try it I suppose
[00:01] <yofel> not really, unless you pull kate from raring
[00:02] <yofel> it's a patch that was dropped by accident when it was repackaged
[00:02] <vbgunz> I can confirm, reinstalling kate doesn't work
[00:02] <xixor> is installing the ia32-libs package, which installs a suite of i386 libraries... going to cause any compatibility/dependency issues?
[00:03] <vbgunz> I was reading up on it, hoping a work around would pop up, I saw it's fixed in what I thought was 4.9.3 but its not
[00:03] <yofel> xixor: there shouldn't, and I don't know of any in quantal. If there are it would be a bug
[00:26] <simplew> yofel: im with a serious problem, i have deleted the ppa and created another one, and now im trying to upload the packages to it but it says they already exist which is false
[00:27] <simplew> yofel: why is launchpad lying?
[00:40] <OerHeks> simplew, how did you delete that ppa? ppa-purge?
[01:08] <simplew> OerHeks: no, i used the browser
[01:09] <simplew> OerHeks: do you use to package?
[01:13] <OerHeks> simplew, if you didn; t use ppa purge, lauchpad is not lying.
[01:44] <bjrohan> What is the best way to get kubunto to zoom in where my mouse is? I want to record my desktop, and when discussing certain features, be able to zoom in on them
[02:08] <bjrohan> I am having issues with the KWIN zoom in / out. Any time I ener the Meta Key and another key, the run command box appears at the top of my screen. How can I disable this? In settings desktop effects, zoom Meta+= is default zoom in Meta+- is default zoom out, but again all I get is the run command bar
[02:09] <DarthFrog> Odd.  I just get the + and - glyphs in this text entry box, no ALT effect at all.  ALT-F2 brings up krunner.
[02:22] <bjrohan> hmm
[02:22] <xixor> sup
[02:24] <bjrohan> Trying to get desktop zoom to work
[02:25] <bjrohan> anytime I hit Meta+ and key it opens up the Run Command box at the top of my screen
[02:25] <bjrohan> perhaps it isn't called Run Command, but if I right clcik on desktop and select Run Command that is the box that appears
[02:25] <xixor> I hate linux.  is meta=alt?  or is meta=windowsKey?
[02:26] <bjrohan> WindowsKey
[02:26] <xixor> lol
[02:26] <bjrohan> I can't find where to set the shortcut key for the run command box
[02:26] <xixor> alt+f2 is default
[02:27] <Tygart> bjrohan: try using it with your browser or open a PDF or word doc
[02:27] <bjrohan> yep. alt+f2 and Meta any key give same result :-(
[02:28] <bjrohan> Tygart: In browser, nothing happens
[02:28] <bjrohan> And that is what I need to zoom in on with while recording my desktop
[02:34] <bjrohan> Maybe it doesn't work at all I tried reassigning it to ctrl+0, and nothing happens
[02:35] <Tygart> bjrohan: are you using the +&- on thats by the 10key or the ones above the letters
[02:35] <bjrohan> Ones above letters, I am on a laptop
[02:35] <Tygart> ok
[02:39] <bjrohan> It seems none of my desktop effects are working :-(
[02:39] <bjrohan> I will log out and back in
[02:44] <OerHeks> I run chrome on kubuntu 12.10, but when i want to see mij IP cam, it doesn't work .. in Firefox it does
[02:51] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[02:51] <OerHeks> hi phoenix_firebrd
[02:51] <phoenix_firebrd> OerHeks: hi
[02:54] <phoenix_firebrd> OerHeks: do you use microblogger plasma widget with twitter?
[02:54] <kathie> I just installed 12.04 on my new laptop (Asus A53U) My wireless card is an Atheros AR9485. My wireless connection is very slow. Ihave it hooked through the ethernet to get a connection. I updated hoping it would help, but it didn't. Can someone help me with this?
[02:56] <OerHeks> phoenix_firebrd, no, i use the webthingy
[02:56] <phoenix_firebrd> OerHeks: ok
[03:19] <juan_> hi all
[03:19] <juan_> nice to meet you
[03:38] <meoblast001> hi
[03:38] <meoblast001> i'm having a bit of a problem with printers (you know, those things we always have when we deal with printers... problems)
[03:39] <meoblast001> this one's a little interesting and i've actually damaged the printer in frustration trying to get the thing to stop printing
[03:39] <xixor> I heard a story once, from a wandering bard, who claimed to have heard of someone who installed a printer without problems once
[03:40] <meoblast001> it's a Lexmark e250d, and i set it up as a generic printer as PLC 6/PLC XL Foomatic/pxlcolor, the default
[03:40] <meoblast001> this has been extremely hit or miss
[03:40] <meoblast001> sometimes i'll print something, and it will come out perfect
[03:41] <meoblast001> other times, with the same document, it appears the printer misinterprets the stream to it and it prints out binary as if it was plain text
[03:41] <meoblast001> let's just say this household now has a lot of scrap paper with smiley faces, umlauts, and question marks
[03:41] <meoblast001> any ideas of what i can do?
[03:42] <meoblast001> i tried postscript configuration but the printer does not like that
[03:42] <meoblast001> does not respond at all, just removes the job from the queue
[03:44] <meoblast001> oh great, now it's angry at me
[03:45] <OerHeks> meoblast001, this old 2009 tutorial should still be valid >>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1158367
[03:45] <meoblast001> followed that
[03:45] <meoblast001> the PPD file does not appear to work
[03:45] <meoblast001> my printer should not even have an IP address anyways
[03:46] <OerHeks> Is it connected with USB ?
[03:46] <meoblast001> yes
[03:46] <OerHeks> Then choose local printer, etc
[03:46] <meoblast001> in the CUPS admin or in the KDE printer configuration?
[03:47] <OerHeks> you can choose, localhost:631 is the old way
[03:47] <meoblast001> the name of the Lexmark printer appears
[03:47] <meoblast001> i select that and hit forward
[03:47] <meoblast001> if i select lexmark, mine does not appear on the list
[03:47] <meoblast001> so my only option appears to be generic
[03:50] <meoblast001> Ubuntu test print works fine on default settings again
[03:51] <OerHeks> meoblast001, check the resolution, some drivers cannot handle 600x600, set it to 300x300 dpi
[03:53] <meoblast001> well, the same document can print different each time i send it to the queue
[03:53] <meoblast001> it's on 300
[03:53] <meoblast001> i guess i could just live with it until it happens again
[03:56] <meoblast001> now i'm frustrated at myself for breaking the plastic piece off the back
[05:20] <chalcedony> my husband uses korganizer, he has ubuntu 10.10 with korganizer on his old drive, and his new drive has 12.04
[05:20] <chalcedony> can someone help us move his files so his new one has them?
[06:17] <vbgunz> anyone know why the nvidia x server settings gui, sometimes launches, sometimes doesn't and no matter what, takes a long time to load
[06:28] <noaXess> morning
[06:28] <noaXess> is nvidia nouveau driver default for 12.10?
[06:29] <noaXess> BluesKaj: and.. got some sleep? ;)
[06:32] <vbgunz> anyone know why the nvidia x server settings gui, sometimes launches, sometimes doesn't and no matter what, takes a long time to load?
[06:35] <noaXess> vbgunz: you mean on startup.. the nvidia logo hangs some seconds?
[06:35] <noaXess> or nvidia-settings program?
[06:35] <vbgunz> the nvidia program from the menu
[06:36] <noaXess> my problem with 12.40, nvidia-updates is, that if desktop effects are enabled, after minutes i can't really work, i need to disable desktop effects..
[06:36] <noaXess> on 12.04 with an older nvidia it worked perfect.
[06:36] <vbgunz> for some reason, I click it and it shows launch feedback but it either doesn't launch at all or takes a very long time to show up
[06:36] <noaXess> vbgunz: what dirver do you use? nvidia or nouveau? check /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:37] <vbgunz> nvidia driver, the experimental 3.10 as I am an undercover beta tester
[06:37] <noaXess> vbgunz: start it from console: nvidia-settings
[06:37] <noaXess> there will be some gtk errors, also in my situation, but maybe you see some more errors..
[06:37] <vbgunz> yeah, not sure why I didn't think about it before
[06:38] <noaXess> vbgunz: 3.10 is ok for desktop effects?
[06:38] <vbgunz> it's ok, the biggest desktop effect game changer in kubuntu is the kde 4.9.2+ dekstop.
[06:38] <noaXess> i have official 304.51 (nvidia-updates) but desktop effects after minutes getting slow and maschine is not really usable.. so need to disable effects
[06:39] <DarthFrog> vbgunz: I'm running the nvidia 3.10 drivers and just loaded the nvidia settings app from the menu.  Opened in 2 seconds.
[06:39] <noaXess> vbgunz: what you mean exactly? you mean problem in 4.9.3?
[06:40] <vbgunz> DarthFrog: yeah, the nvidia-settings gui doesn't pop up in 2 seconds. when it does, it will do it in 20 or not at all
[06:41] <vbgunz> noaXess: I am not saying KDE is the problem, just saying performance in KDE doesn't go up through the roof until you hit the 4.9.2 series
[06:41] <vbgunz> KDE in in 12.04 must have been horrid
[06:41] <noaXess> vbgunz: ok..
[06:42] <vbgunz> all thats bothering me now is I have no ideas why nvidia-settings takes forever to load up if at all
[06:42] <noaXess> vbgunz: i was happy with 12.04 and KDE.. but no in 12.10 and KDE 4.9.3 some issues in effects.. i live them ;) but.. can live for the moment w/o them
[06:42] <vbgunz> it's the only program doing that, everything else is super responsive
[06:43] <noaXess> vbgunz: was it also with the nvidia 304 version?
[06:44] <vbgunz> I never really tested 304 on Kubuntu 12.10, I sort of just made a fresh install and jumped up to 3.10 based on Steam coming to Ubuntu exclusively
[06:45] <vbgunz> I wanted to check things out and although everything is pretty much perfect, the nvidia-settings gui is so slow to launch and open, it's terrible
[06:45] <DarthFrog> vbgunz:  Coming to Ubuntu initially.  No doubt it'll be available for RPM distros in short order.
[06:45] <DarthFrog> vbgunz: You could just open it once and leave it open.
[06:46] <vbgunz> DarthFrog: yeah, it should be coming but Ubuntu is no doubt leading in more areas and I used to use it more than a year back. I'm back trying it out again and it's great. Just the nvidia-settings is bugging me out atm, nothing else like it
[06:47] <vbgunz> DarthFrog: I have 3 monitors so bouncing between them using the nvidia-settings gui is important, it just sucks to have to wait 20-30 seconds for the app to launch
[06:47] <DarthFrog> So don't close it.
[06:48] <DarthFrog> if you're capable of parsing the output, you could try running it under strace and see where the hang-up is occurring.
[06:49] <vbgunz> DarthFrog: I don't predict I'll be switching monitors for a little while, I hate having something in the task bar running I know I just don't need atm, I have no real clue why it bothers me but I close apps I am not using if they're present in a way that appears they require usage
[06:49] <DarthFrog> From the command line:  strace nvidia-settings
[07:42] <chalcedony> can someone help us move his files so his new one has them?
[07:42] <chalcedony> my husband uses korganizer, he has ubuntu 10.10 with korganizer on his old drive, and his new drive has 12.04
[07:42] <chalcedony> can someone help us move his files so his new one has them?
[07:53] <jedihawk> chalcedony: do you know how to use rsync?
[07:54] <chalcedony> jedihawk, not sure?
[07:55] <chalcedony> jedihawk, are you wanting to use it?
[07:56] <jedihawk> rsync is a tool for copying files.  very handy when updating remote filesystems.  are you talking about copying files from one drive to another?
[07:56] <chalcedony> ahh
[07:57] <chalcedony> jedihawk, ok
[07:57] <chalcedony> yes
[07:57] <jedihawk> then maybe you don't need rsync.  are both drives connected?
[07:59] <chalcedony> ok yes
[07:59] <chalcedony> i didn't think he was able to have them both at the same time, but he does
[08:01] <jedihawk> chalcedony: then it's probably just a matter of opening two dolphin windows and drag-n-drop copy from one to the other.
[08:01] <lordievader> Rsync also works on two directories ;)
[08:01] <chalcedony> ah
[08:02] <chalcedony> he's having a migraine, so now that i have help he needs to lie down
[08:02] <chalcedony> we will have to try to do this later
[08:02] <chalcedony> i'm sorry
[08:03] <jedihawk> chalcedony: no worries.
[08:03] <jedihawk> lordievader: yup!
[10:37] <nkg5> can someone help me install unity-2d on kubuntu 12.10?
[10:47] <Guest36797> buongiorno ragazzi posso chiedervi aiuto per problemi su kubuntu
[11:56] <markovh> using konsole, the terminal always prompts me for a passphrase to unlock keys where as in ubuntu with gnome, there was a gui popup that handled it and could handle it (and keep unlocked till logout). I've got seahorse installed as well btw. Is there a setting to make seahorse handle key unlocks or a default application that's used on kde?
[12:00] <Jekyll> markovh: try ksshaskpass
[12:02] <markovh> is there anyway of getting seahorse to handle it?
[12:02] <hateball> markovh: in KDE you'd most likely want to use kwallet
[12:03] <markovh> i've got that installed as well but it doesn't prompt when unlocking the keys
[12:08] <gh43none_> hi
[12:08] <hateball> markovh: a quick google suggest this http://www.pontohonk.de/kde/ssh.html but I have not tried it myself
[12:09] <markovh> hateball: yeah i did shortly after i said that and implemented it. It's not prompting me any more with any sort of gui after i did ssh-add
[12:10] <markovh> not too sure that's what i want but i'll stick with it for now
[12:15] <hateball> markovh: well if you've opened the wallet it stays open for the rest of the session by default. you can change that behavior ofc
[13:38] <notze> i have the problem that my vga2 device doesnt enable me to set the resolution to fullhd
[13:38] <notze> where can i change this?
[13:44] <n8w> hey guys
[13:45] <n8w> how do i do distro upgradefrom the commnad line?  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade doesnt do it
[13:48] <mparillo> n8w: did you first sudo apt-get update ?
[13:48] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:52] <Adapter> #ubuntu-de
[14:04] <mparillo> Question about Okular...it seems that it (unlike Acrobat Reader) allows you to save your entries to any fill-in PDF form, but the entries are only visible to Okular, that is, you cannot save them so they are visible to other PDF viewers, like evince. Is that correct?
[14:07] <n8w> mparillo:  ye...it has been solved...do-release-upgrade works ok
[14:11] <Riddell> mparillo: hmm that's surprising
[14:11] <Riddell> mparillo: sounds like a bug?
[14:12] <mparillo> Upstream, I assume? So bugs.kde.org and not Launchpad?
[14:39] <Riddell> mparillo: yes I think so
[14:40] <mparillo> Will do. I will construct a clean test case and report it there. Anything interesting, and I will update here.
[15:00] <swex> why my gamma settings does not affect real picture?
[15:00] <swex> kubuntu 12.10
[15:00] <swex> nvidia..
[15:02] <BluesKaj> swex, depends on the monitor settings as well .
[15:13] <swex> BluesKaj: but why changes I make in nvidia-setting doesn't work?
[15:13] <hateball> swex: some settings in nvidia-settings have to be done using !sudo
[15:14] <swex> hateball: no, still not
[15:14] <swex> hateball: I just want to change gamma, and can't
[15:16] <suy> Hi. I'm running kubuntu 12.10 inside VirtualBox, and I have problems with enabling OpenGL in KWin. I have the vbox-guest-additions, and the driver seems present and detected, plus glxgears says it draws many FPS. Is something in KWin then?
[15:17] <xixor> have you installed the guest additions?
[15:17] <xixor> ah, sorry, I cannot read
[15:19] <xixor> swex: my kubuntu VM is using XRender
[15:20] <suy> xixor: mine is using xrender too, but not all effects work well
[15:20] <xixor> swex: I have it spanned full screen across 3 monitors, and I have all desktop effects disabled.  It's working, and I don't want to fiddle with risk of breaking it.  Everytime I play with anything related to graphics it completely breaks how the monitors are layed out
[15:51] <smj> does KDE have as good package manager as Synaptic?
[15:51] <Riddell> smj: Muon is very good
[15:52] <smj> let me check
[15:53] <lordievader> smj: If you do not really care about graphics, Synaptic runs well on Kubuntu :)
[15:55] <smj> that's what I've been using for years
[15:58] <BluesKaj> lordievader, you can make the synaptic graphics look exactly like other kde apps if one takes the time to set it up in systemsettings with   kdesudo in the krunner
[16:00] <BluesKaj> set up gtk apps that is
[16:00] <smj> Muon doesn't seem to be quite there yet... when switching filters it shows you a blank package list way too often, instead of what should be there
[16:01] <BluesKaj> I prefer synaptic's approach to prefernces and other options to muon and apper
[16:02] <ptomblin> Why is my load average up over 2.0 when I'm not doing anything, and why is "nepomukservices" using half of one of my cores?
[16:07] <lordievader> ptomblin: How many CPU cores does your system have?
[16:10] <ptomblin> 8 - it's an i7
[16:12] <ptomblin> It's settled down now - load average is 0.44.  Now it's ksysguard that's top of "top"
[16:14] <lordievader> ptomblin: Then a load of 2 is not a problem, however Nepomuk taking up 100% on a core isn't good.
[16:15] <ptomblin> I had just rebooted because the load average was up over 3 for no reason, and postgresql was slow as a dog.  Everything seems better now.
[16:16] <lordievader> ptomblin: An i7 should be able to handle at least 4. Or 8 if you count in the virtual cores.
[16:17] <ptomblin> I know, that's why I rebooted.  Something was badly wrong.  A task I do several times an hour in postgresql was taking minutes instead of seconds.
[17:23] <mparillo> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=310095
[17:24] <mparillo> The upstream resolution is to tell users that saving XFA data will not be supported.
[17:24] <mparillo> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55978
[17:26] <mparillo> Short version: Saving unsupported XFA data appears to work in Okular, but that may end soon. I suppose an off-topic debate is whether it is better to appear to work for some use cases or to fail loudly with unsupported input.
[17:50] <Tygart> I am using Kubuntu 13.04
[17:50] <Tygart> During an sudo apt-get update / dist-upgrade the notification keeps saying Activity in session "Shell"
[18:07] <Tygart> Solved
[19:19] <anoneemouse> hi... my lightdm-kde is not showing anything other than kde
[19:19] <anoneemouse> i want to go into unity, i also have gnome3 installed
[19:27] <anoneemouse> figured it out... kinda
[20:21] <ovidiu-florin> how can I set up Kate to highlight the openning and closing tag of where my cursor is in an XML file?
[20:24] <doctorpepper> hi guys !!
[20:25] <xixor> sup
[20:32] <Gremble> Ah excuse my incompetance; I am a new user to Kubuntu, well Linux in general and looking to set-up the gnu toolchain: make, gcc, gdb, etc. I also seem to be failing at getting documentation on doing it, any links or documentation suggestions?
[20:34] <xixor> Gremble: welcome
[20:34] <xixor> Gremble: did you install those packages, using muon or apt-get yet?
[20:34] <Gremble> Yes, I checked all of them are there.  I also got Vim and gedit as I found out people suggested them as editors
[20:34] <lordievader> Gremble: For those things there is an easy meta-package, build-essentials.
[20:35] <Gremble> I currently use Code::blocks as IDE but I want to learn new things
[20:35] <xixor> Gremble: Cool.  I've used code::blocks, it was good, but I really, whole heartedly, 100% recommend qtcreator
[20:36] <xixor> Gremble: People get pretty evangelical about editors and IDEs though... good for you for trying things out, find what works best for you
[20:37] <Gremble> Sec, I let me change to my linux box. I have a silly internet connection
[20:37] <xixor> Gremble: so you have them installed.  Everything working?
[20:41] <Gremble> Sorry about that
[20:42] <Gremble> I was on my PC when I suddenly had an urge to do research
[20:42] <vbgunz> I'm on Kubuntu 12.10. I have no ppas enabled and I am on a fresh install. twice today Kubuntu completely froze solid. A hard reboot needed twice and I have no idea where to begin figuring out why. Does anyone know where to start? what logs to look at?
[20:43] <lordievader> Gremble: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[20:43] <lordievader> Gremble: Run that command from a terminal.
[20:44] <ovidiu-florin> Gremble: I also recommend QtCreator for an IDE and Kate for a text editor
[20:46] <Gremble> I could only get "build-essential" but I assume it is the same thing... haha
[20:46] <Gremble> Kate I have, QtCreator Ill try. Thanks
[20:47] <lordievader> Gremble: Ah yes, that's the one.
[20:47] <Gremble> Ok, I should've asked, what exactly is this that I am installing?
[20:48] <lordievader> Gremble: It is a meta-package with all sorts of compilers and other things needed to compile and make software from source-code.
[20:48] <ovidiu-florin> Gremble: Short: It's a package that contains all necessary packages in order to develop in C/C++
[20:48] <markovh> the system tray widget on the main pannel for me keeps becoming REALLY big and squishing the task manager . How can i resize it? i tried deleting it and putting it back... BIG MISTAKE now the task manager is about 2 cm... the system tray doesn't even have anything on it
[20:50] <Gremble> Ok. Fantastic thanks.
[20:50] <ovidiu-florin> markovh: you could try to use a spacer, but usualy there are some proceses that make the system tray be very large.
[20:50] <markovh> ovidiu-florin: tried that as well
[20:51] <markovh> doesn't resize it... seems a bit strange there's no way to resize widgets...
[20:51] <ovidiu-florin> markovh: they autosize
[20:51] <markovh> yeah that doesn't seem sane
[20:51] <ovidiu-florin> markovh: it depends on their content
[20:52] <markovh> for exactly this sort of reason actually
[20:55] <ovidiu-florin> markovh: check what applications appear in the system tray
[20:57] <ovidiu-florin> markovh: somewidgets are set to take up all the available space, like the Task Manager widget
[20:57] <ovidiu-florin> if you wish to shrink it you can use a spacer widget
[20:57] <Tygart> markovh: click the litle yellow (Thing) next to the clock and it will pop up, in the middle of the pannel it says "Height" And Screen edge.
[20:58] <Tygart> to the right of the clock*
[20:58] <Tygart> grab height and drag it up.
[20:59] <ovidiu-florin> markovh: I was reffering jut to the width of the widget, the height is determined by the panel height, as Tygart said
[20:59] <Tygart> What widget
[21:00] <Tygart> ovidiu-florin: sorry looked at the wrong name?
[21:00] <Tygart> name.*
[21:02] <vbgunz> damn, I am a bit stuck. my system has frozen twice today and I am a bit clueless where to start figuring things out. how can I troubleshoot this in case it happens again?
[21:03] <xixor> vbgunz: first make sure you have the latest updates installed
[21:03] <xixor> vbgunz: then start looking in /var/log
[21:03] <lordievader> vbgunz: The syslog and dmesg log are a good place to start.
[21:08] <markovh> ovidiu-florin: i wasn't refering to height either, that has nothing to do with it
[21:09] <markovh> did a restart and added it in again it seems to have resized back to a regular size now but seems like a terrible way of fixing it
[21:11] <ovidiu-florin> markovh: This happened to me as well, adn I found that there was a process that appeared there about 5 times, and made the System Tray widget hudge, so I just killed that process (5 times) and it was ok. No ideea waht process was that. It was nothing familiar
[21:11] <vbgunz> hmm in syslog, I went back to the second it froze, I know it right down to the second because my systray clock displays seconds and recorded the exact time everything froze. this is what I found, anyone know what's up? http://paste.kde.org/606860/
[21:12] <ovidiu-florin> is there a way to colapse all in Kate?
[21:14] <ovidiu-florin> solved.
[21:15] <xixor> vbgunz: sounds like your hard drive or your ata subsystem is throwing a DRDY ERR.  I don't know what that is
[21:15] <xixor> vbgunz: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=147546
[21:16] <xixor> vbgunz: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/ata1-01-status-%7B-drdy-err-%7D-896401/
[21:16] <xixor> vbgunz:
[21:16] <xixor> vbgunz: http://superuser.com/questions/121391/sata-drives-or-chipset-throwing-drdy-err-and-icrc-abrt
[21:16] <xixor> vbgunz: in that last one, someone says, "DRDY ERR messages actually seems to be reported as a kernel bug in a lot of systems which seems to relate a lot with Ubuntu and to a smaller extent Debian."  and there is some discussion on it
[21:17] <xixor> vbgunz: sorry to inundate you with information, but I think doing some google research might be a good option for you at this point, just finding out if this is a known problem, or a known hardware problem, etc
[21:19] <vbgunz> xixor: yeah, the info is great, I was googling what I could. if its worth anything, I have kubuntu installed on an external sata disk. a 32bit installation on a 64bit system.
[21:21] <vbgunz> how do I translate 'ata9.00' to something more understandable like /dev/sdx?
[21:22] <xixor> vbgunz: I'm not sure how to translate it.  Someone else might know, or might be a good question for #linux ?
[21:23] <xixor> vbgunz: afaik, none of those things: 32bit system, eSata disk, should be a problem.  Could it be a faulty cable? intermittent cable? failing hard drive/
[21:23] <xixor> vbgunz: you might want to check the smart status of the drive
[21:24] <vbgunz> yeah, I'm looking into hdparm now otherwise I'll be on it a minute
[21:27] <xixor> vbgunz: er, I mean "both of those things shouldn't be a problem" above
[21:28] <xixor> vbgunz: I don't know much about it, but there are different hard drive settings in the bios... ahci, atapi, ata.. I can't remember how many there are, or what the differences are.. but it could be something to look into as well
[21:28] <vbgunz> I'm thinking ata9.01: is probably referring to my cdroms, it keeps coming back in google queries. I'm gonna try in #linux
[21:37] <vbgunz> xixor: turns out, from #linux, I grepped dmesg for ata9 and found out it is my cdroms
[21:38] <xixor> vbgunz: hm.. ok
[21:38] <xixor> vbgunz: but still, that error might not be related to your instability
[21:39] <xixor> vbgunz: take a look in /var/log/kern.log, message, syslog, and focus in on the time of the crashes to see if there are any other messages
[21:40] <vbgunz> kerl.log looks almost exactly the same as sys.log
[21:42] <xixor> ok
[23:18] <jedihawk> aah, back in xchat in linux.  mmmmm, happiness.
[23:19]  * jedihawk still has no life though.
[23:31] <xixor> jedihawk: I've never liked xchat
[23:33] <jedihawk> xixor, I love it.
[23:35] <xixor> It's gtk, right?
[23:35] <jedihawk> xixor: do you know how to get dolphin to not leave .directory files all over the place?
[23:35] <xixor> jedihawk: no idea.  Are  you showing dot files?  hit alt . to hide them in dolphin
[23:36] <jedihawk> xixor: no, usually I don't have hidden files shown.  But they show up in other programs, and clog up my jungledisk and dropbox shares.  Very annoying.
[23:37] <xixor> ah, I think if you disable storing view preferences for every folder, it won't add them
[23:37] <jedihawk> xixor: good idea, thx.
[23:37] <xixor> Settings->Configure Dolphin->General-> REmember properties for each folder
[23:37] <xixor> I turn that off in windows explorer, finder, and dolphin, first thing I do on any installation on any OS