[07:27] <rigved> hi everyone.
[07:28] <rigved> i would like to help test 13.04. but i am unable to upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04.
[07:29] <rigved> when i type "update-manager -d", it shows that 13.04 is available. when i click on upgrade, it asks for my password and then nothing happens.
[07:29] <rigved> what should i do to start the upgrade process?
[07:33] <rigved> will changing the sources.list to raring work?
[13:48] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:44] <BluesKaj> new kernel for 13.04 , linux-image-3.7.0-0-generic amd64 3.7.0-0.5
[14:50] <simplew> i have upgraded my system and in the end i got this error when running update-initramfs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1358106
[14:57] <simplew> when upgrading in the end runned update-initramfs and it showed this error:
[14:57] <simplew> modprobe: ../tools/modprobe.c:550: print_action: Assertion `kmod_module_get_initstate(m) == KMOD_MODULE_BUILTIN' failed.
[14:57] <simplew> Aborted (core dumped)
[14:57] <simplew> what this means
[15:05] <BluesKaj> simplew, looks like the kernel printer module failed to load
[15:08] <BluesKaj> but I'm just guessing , simplew
[15:59] <gnomefreak> im trying to print screen with right click menu showing. anyone know how to do it.
[16:00] <bazhang> gnomefreak, hit prtscrn button while it's up?
[16:00] <gnomefreak> bazhang: doesnt work with menu showing
[16:01] <tdignan> apt-get install scrot ; sleep 2 ; scrot  (Now right click)
[16:02] <BluesKaj> gnomefreak, what about the PrtScn key?
[16:02] <gnomefreak> tdignan: that will print sceen with menu open?
[16:02] <gnomefreak> BluesKaj: doesnt work with menu showing
[16:02] <BluesKaj> get rid of the menu
[16:03] <tdignan> gnomefreak: I don't see why it wouldn't. It grabs the framebuffer or whatever.
[16:03] <tdignan> I've used it for years.
[16:03] <gnomefreak> right click on a file/folder/empty area and hit prntscrn button and it should get shot
[16:03] <tdignan> the problem you have with using the print screen key is that when the menu is shown it has the focus.
[16:03] <gnomefreak> test it
[16:04] <gnomefreak> tdignan: so how do i get it to work
[16:04] <tdignan> no it doens't, because the right-click menu has focus
[16:04] <tdignan> you *don't*
[16:04] <tdignan> you use scrot and get over it
[16:04] <tdignan> or you can file a bug
[16:04] <tdignan> whatevs :)
[16:05] <gnomefreak> i need the screenshot for a bug :\
[16:05] <tdignan> why can't you take one with scrot like I suggested 3 times now?
[16:05] <gnomefreak> ill try scrot
[16:05] <tdignan> :)
[16:05] <tdignan> awesome choice man
[16:09] <gnomefreak> tdignan: perfect
[16:09] <BluesKaj> tdignan, scrot isn't working here
[16:09] <simplew> entao agora o q posso fazer?
[16:10] <BluesKaj> simplew, read the text , it's english here
[16:10] <simplew> BluesKaj: google translator
[16:10] <BluesKaj> that's even worse
[16:10] <simplew> BluesKaj: but i wrote in the wrong window
[16:10] <BluesKaj> ok :)
[16:11] <gnomefreak> there should be a channel for your language
[16:11] <simplew> gnomefreak: aonde?
[16:12] <gnomefreak> not sure what that is
[16:13] <gnomefreak> be back i need a smoke and think of a bug :(
[16:13] <simplew> gnomefreak: serious? you cant identify thelanguage?
[16:14] <BluesKaj> tdignan, I ran scrot but the dialog still has focus , I'm not real sure about focus settings in system settings so i assume scrot overrides them
[16:15] <BluesKaj> I'm on KDE btw
[16:19] <gnomefreak> no i cant
[16:19] <gnomefreak> BluesKaj: you disappoint me using KDE :(
[16:20]  * BluesKaj removes scrot , doesn't provide any benefit
[16:20] <gnomefreak> remember gnome gnome gnome
[16:20] <gnomefreak> :)
[16:20] <simplew> gnomefreak: i can identify severall lags and i also use KDE, and you disapoint me using gnome or unity
[16:21] <gnomefreak> my guess wqould be spanish but not sure
[16:21] <gnomefreak> would even
[16:21] <BluesKaj> gnomefreak, well I'm afraid you will remain disappointed for quite a long time. I'm a dedicated KDE user and will remain so for the forseable future  :)
[16:21] <simplew> gnomefreak: do a seach on "aonde" and youll get it
[16:22] <simplew> gnomefreak: and so far i still dont get why ubuntu has gnome and main DE where kde is much far developed and stable
[16:23] <gnomefreak> Portuguese?
[16:23] <simplew> gnomefreak: got it
[16:23] <simplew> gnomefreak: sim
[16:25] <simplew> BluesKaj: so when rebooting i wil not have any issue?
[16:28] <BluesKaj> O_Comprido, witht the new kernel ..i rebooted just fine
[16:29] <O_Comprido> BluesKaj: yes but im afraid that ill have issues after seeing that message
[16:31] <BluesKaj> I saw that message yesterday and rebooting was fine , justy make sure you're up to date with updates/upgrades
[16:31] <BluesKaj> O_Comprido,6
[16:31] <BluesKaj> ^
[16:31] <gnomefreak> apport is broken :(
[16:32] <O_Comprido> BluesKaj: 6 what?
[16:33] <O_Comprido> BluesKaj: your joking right? i dont believe that can be possible
[16:35] <O_Comprido> uuuauuu, nautilus its a crap now, isnt possible anymore to have sidebar in tree view, i cant beleive what those gnome guys have in tjeir minds...
[16:36] <BluesKaj> O_Comprido,  I'm not joking , but i have 12.10 on the other partition as fallback
[16:36] <O_Comprido> BluesKaj: you said 6
[16:37] <BluesKaj> 6 was a typo , Meant to type^ , but missed the shift key
[17:19] <O_Comprido> i have installed openjdk-7-jre  but firefo continues not being able to run java
[17:23] <IdleOne> O_Comprido: are you running 13.04?
[17:26] <IdleOne> O_Comprido: If you are running Raring/13.04 then you can't ask support question in #ubuntu. Raring is in development cycle and is NOT supported in #ubuntu, even if some of the packages may be the same in 12.10.
[17:27] <IdleOne> You have been asked a few times not to cross post questions regarding raring, please follow the guidelines or we will be forced to remove you from #ubuntu.
[17:27] <O_Comprido> IdleOne: im running both
[17:28] <IdleOne> O_Comprido: that is fine, but question regarding raring are not to be asked in #ubuntu. You posted the same question regarding openjdk in both channels.
[17:28] <O_Comprido> IdleOne: and i put a question about enabling java for firefox that is quantal and raring
[17:30] <IdleOne> ok, let me explain this a little clearer. If you ask one more question regarding raring in #ubuntu I will ban you from both #ubuntu and #ubuntu+1. raring is in dev release at this point and should only be used by users who are capable of working around the problems that will arise.
[17:30] <IdleOne> Also, when you ask a question in here you should expect that it could take several hours to get a response.
[17:31] <O_Comprido> IdleOne: but if one answer isnt answered here and is valide for quantal, why isnt possible to post the same question in #ubuntu?
[17:32] <O_Comprido> IdleOne: ill respect the channel rules, but some i dont understand
[17:32] <IdleOne> because questions that pertain to raring may very well appear to be valid for quantal but the users in #ubuntu, don't know what may have been changed in raring. #ubuntu is only for officially released versions of ubuntu
[17:34] <O_Comprido> IdleOne: but there are packages that continue to be the same in quantal and raring, so i guess there arent changes, but ok, next time i ask some in quantal ill be runing quantal
[17:34] <O_Comprido> mean ill ask i #ubuntu when running quantal
[17:37] <O_Comprido> IdleOne: could you tell me if nautilus in raring will continue without sidebar tree?
[17:37] <IdleOne> I don't know to be honest.
[17:48] <Tygart> During an sudo apt-get update / dist-upgrade the notification keeps saying Activity in session "Shell"
[17:48] <Tygart> Why is it saying this?
[17:48] <Tygart> I have not installed an SSH server
[17:49] <Tygart> Also I am using Kubuntu 13.04
[18:07] <Tygart> solved
[18:08] <trism> Tygart: what was the issue?
[18:08] <Tygart> During an sudo apt-get update / dist-upgrade the notification keeps saying Activity in session "Shell"
[18:08] <Tygart> I was worried someone was SSHing into my pc
[18:08] <Tygart> trying to*
[18:09] <trism> Tygart: sorry I meant what was causing that?
[18:09] <Tygart> I don't know
[18:09] <Tygart> It happens during a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:10] <Tygart> It did not happen during the apt-get update
[18:11] <trism> Tygart: oh check this out, sounds related http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde&m=133909279704212
[18:12] <Tygart> trism: http://paste.kde.org/606710/ here is the output of update/upgrade
[18:13] <Tygart> There were errors
[18:14] <trism> ahh yes, the nvidia module may not build with 3.7 yet, I'll try upgrading my system and see what happens
[18:17] <Tygart> trism: I am still using Nvidia 304.48 wasn't that replaced?
[18:23] <trism> Tygart: nvidia-experimental-304 is on 304.48, nvidia-current is 304.43 and -updates is 304.64
[18:24] <trism> Tygart: it is a bit confusing now that we have so many packages
[18:24] <Tygart> I will stay with .48 for now, it works
[19:03] <Tygart> trism: how did that update go with your Nvidia? My graphics look a little off. The cursor is flashy.
[19:04] <trism> Tygart: it seems alright here, I am using nvidia-current-updates
[19:05] <Tygart> ok, I will try and update and try again. If not I will wait until tomorrow.
[19:05] <Tygart> trism: did you restart?
[19:07] <trism> Tygart: yes, though only a moment ago so I haven't used it long
[19:09] <Tygart> ok, mine was messy since startup
[19:09] <Tygart> I am off to update again and restart.
[19:09] <Tygart> Thank you.
[19:10] <trism> Tygart: good luck
[19:10] <Tygart> Thanks
[19:11] <BluesKaj> ust installed the nvidia 304.64 driver , all seems ok so far
[19:11] <BluesKaj> just
[19:44] <Tygart> I need to purge my graphic driver but I am not sure what to type I am using nvidia expermintal (.48)
[19:44] <Tygart> sudo apt-get purge nvidia-????
[19:45] <trism> Tygart: you were using nvidia-experimental-304, though you could check: dkms status
[19:46] <Tygart> dkms?
[19:47] <BluesKaj> Tygart, run glxinfo | grep OpenGL , version string = gives the driver version
[19:47] <trism> Tygart: dkms is in charge of rebuilding the module whenever the kernel is updated
[19:48] <Tygart> ok
[19:48] <Tygart> BluesKaj: brb I need to install gixinfo
[19:49] <BluesKaj> Tygart, most ppl do ,but it's a great ID-er
[19:49] <Tygart> http://paste.kde.org/606764/
[19:50] <BluesKaj> Tygart, just run , glxinfo | grep OpenGL
[19:51] <Tygart> http://paste.kde.org/606770/
[19:51] <Tygart> its like the driver is gone, but the Nvidia tools are still there
[19:55] <BluesKaj> the best method atm is to use the package manger , install nvidia-current-updates if you want to try the latest driver , namely the 304.64 , otherwise nvidia-current would be the most stable choice
[19:58] <Tygart> I want to purge expermintal first.
[19:58] <Tygart> so
[19:58] <Tygart> sudo apt-get purge nvidia-experimental-304
[19:59] <BluesKaj> if you just use the package manager , all the proper commands will be issued by the uninstaller , it's the safest method
[20:00] <Tygart> True, thanks. Off for another restart.
[21:12] <genii-around> Whoa, firefox just did something really trippy. I had three tabs open, one had some flash animation, it had been sitting idle about an hour. Anyhow, the flash plugin crashed and froze firefox for a minute, I had selected the tab with the animation. When flash got reset, firefox closed that tab, opened up a new browser instance with that page instead.
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> 3.7 kernel locked in :)