| Jordan_U | So, how long do you think until Ubuntu switches to systemd? | 04:24 |
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| AlanBell | systemd is just upstart reinvented isn't it? | 09:34 |
| AlanBell | because upstart was written by Canonical | 09:35 |
| popey | some argue systemd is technically superior. | 09:54 |
| AlanBell | probably is | 09:55 |
| popey | I'm unconvinced it's NiH | 09:57 |
| AlanBell | but would Canonical be able to switch to it? | 09:58 |
| AlanBell | or is there too much emotional investment in upstart? | 09:58 |
| AlanBell | like bzr/git or unity/gnome-shell | 09:59 |
| popey | i dont think its emotional investment which prevents us going bzr -> git, or unity -> gnome shell | 10:02 |
| popey | same for upstart -> systemd | 10:02 |
| popey | for unity there's the belief it's better, for our long term plans | 10:02 |
| popey | for bzr I suspect it's because we have nobody to do the migration work | 10:02 |
| Jordan_U | popey: What do you think is preventing a move from upstart to systemd? | 10:11 |
| Jordan_U | One thing I find odd is that while there are many detailed technical arguments given for systemd over upstart, I haven't been able to find any equivelant defense of upstart over systemd. | 10:19 |
| Jordan_U | The closest thing I've seen (and it's not very close at all) is from http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1121 . Did the Ubuntu Foundations team mentioned by Mark make a public report on what they deemed were the technical (and social) problems with systemd, and the technical (and social) advantages of upstart? | 10:22 |
| popey | I've not seen such a public report. I've seen it discussed on ubuntu-devel iirc | 10:28 |
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