[01:09] Evening, everyone [01:10] Thank you, jcastro_ for taking the reigns. [03:24] * rick_h starts packing up the car http://goo.gl/gea8d [03:35] can i join? [03:36] i think i read startups are moving to kansas city and using people's living room for office space [03:37] me three me three!!! [11:46] morning [12:22] Good morning [12:22] Have a very drugged kitten this morning [12:22] last night she was best described as "stoned" [12:22] Even the vet called her stoned [12:22] s/vet/technician/ [12:43] yea, gotta love it when the pets get the good drugs [12:55] wahoo android 4.2 [13:02] bastard [13:02] I still have nothing over 2.3.7 [13:02] nexus 7 ftw [13:03] Oh wait, my touchpad came in, so I have WebOS 3 [13:03] WebOS > * [13:03] hah [13:03] one day...holding out hope [13:04] At least now I can play around with it [13:04] My fear is I will like it more than Android and get sucked into its tiny ecosystem [13:04] yea, HP did have some updates recently [13:04] and I'd still rather use it for dev work, but no users/devices :( [13:05] old devices [13:07] Hm, looks like openwebos has been ported to galaxy nexus [13:08] http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Galaxy_Nexus [13:09] rick_h: You just want to Javascript all the things. [13:10] :) [13:18] http://shop.oreilly.com/category/deals/math.do?code=DEAL&imm_mid=09b53f&cmp=em-npa-books-videos-deal-day-math-direct <- Math DotD [13:51] brousch: run 4.x x86 in a VM if you want newer than 2.3.7 [13:54] jrwren: I am, but I don't count it [13:57] so you do have newer than 2.3.7 :) [13:58] i maintain ubuntu is not for desktop. why doesn't nautilus have a run as... option to run something as root or another user? [14:02] huh? [14:04] my use case is ubuntu in a VM, installing the vm tools. the vm tools CD gets mounted and a window pops up, that is great. the next step is running hte installer as root. You can't do this from natilus. It is a shame. [14:09] So tempted to reply to https://twitter.com/chrismcdonough/status/268514999603953666 with "One user?! tThat's like 20% of all Pyramid users" [14:10] i got distracted by "i'm a toy that squirts rainbows" [14:10] lol, me too [14:31] in case you guys don't follow the python lists http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1358061/ [14:31] kind of cool to see a db vendor getting Mike involved like that [14:35] rick_h: Which list was that on? [14:35] python-list@python.org [14:36] Ah. I don't think I have a current sub to that list [14:37] It just showed up on announce [14:38] i don't. [14:38] i just read ideas. [14:38] what is volume like on that one? [14:39] Python List is pretty heavy traffic [14:39] I tried digests on that one, but it wasn't that effective [14:39] * snap-l has a love / hate relationship with digests [14:40] People who respond to the digest version can die in a fire [14:41] brousch: You can use the mime digesting, but it's not that great in Thunderbird [14:41] it works, but Mutt's digest support is miles ahead [14:43] Y'know what, QUora can eat my balls [14:43] "You need to sign in in order to read the answers" [14:43] but I don't want to, so it actively goes through and blurs the text [14:44] The new expert sex change [14:44] That doesn't make me want to participate, it makes me want to leave flaming bags of shit on their doorstop [14:48] quota used to be cool [14:48] now i think it sucks [14:48] I just blocked it from my search results [14:48] Was looking for a decent epub reader for Linux, and one of their links popped up [14:49] I don't have a problem with asking folks to sign in [14:49] I have a HUGE problem with obfuscating so I have to sign in [14:50] monitize baby! [14:50] And they can eat shit and dietize. [14:53] Seriously low tolerance for that stuff [15:00] rick_h: That's great, coming from a Canonical employee [15:00] :) [15:00] brousch: I like getting a pay check, how about you? [15:01] Sure, I'll take your paycheck :P [15:08] Unforgiven: did you get your new house yet? [15:08] no [15:08] crap [15:08] hah [15:08] I'm here too, no harm done [15:08] you may choose from a multitude of channels [15:08] yes [15:08] i had a 3 in 10 chance of picking one you were in. [15:09] what kills me is that means he's not using tab complete for nicks :/ [15:09] i was [15:09] but i switched between windows after tab-completing. [15:09] ah, gotcha [15:09] ok, we're cool then :P [15:09] :D [15:10] otherwise we'd probably have to dual [15:10] duel* [15:12] <_stink_> or dual [15:48] snap-l: Did you see this? [15:48] http://deathmetalbaboon.com/how-to-listen-to-death-metal-1-2 [15:48] why is code.launchpad.net so slow. [15:48] just clicking around on it feels slow. [15:48] does it set No Cache or something? [15:49] jrwren: rick's never heard of memcached [15:49] :) it's a waste of good memory [15:49] lol. [15:49] no ETags, so that sucks. [15:50] jrwren: depends on what you're hitting [15:50] zome.server.http, so that is a bummer. [15:50] err.. zope [15:50] you hitting the actual loggerhead or just branch browser [15:50] https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pmake and click link to https://launchpad.net/pmake [15:51] and i confirmed, no 304s, just 200s. you really could set Last-Modified and/or etags for 1 min or so. [15:51] yea, so we majority is the web page itself. In my network trace 1.3 of the 2.4 [15:52] but yea, we don't use etags because we get into timestamp races across front end machines [15:52] and we stream the JS content so that you get it faster without us loading it all into memory [15:52] but it is fully squid cached so fast on our end, just network [15:53] and then there's the fact that it's coming from england DC vs in the US which I can't do anything about :() [15:53] england DC?!?! that is probably teh latency i notice. [15:53] ugh. [15:54] jrwren: English packets laced with Guiness. ;) [15:55] and smelling faintly of fish and chips [15:55] its yet another reason to use github... support american made products. :p [15:56] hah [15:56] Those smell like BBQ sauce and want to change the radio to Country [15:56] and have to have jokes explained to them [16:10] snap-l: what is that wireles provider you use? [16:11] ting [16:21] Yeah [16:22] http://decafbad.net/2012/06/06/i-love-my-phone-company-or-why-ting-com-is-awesome/ [16:32] i'm really starting to hate pyrex [16:32] jrwren: yea, what are you using it for? [16:37] The cookware? [16:37] porting this to libevent2 https://code.google.com/p/pyevent/ [16:38] ah, fun [16:38] it blows. [16:38] heh, yea I try to stay away from that stuff and let other smarter people do that [16:38] or I don't understand what ctypedef is supposed to do. [16:38] its like you ahve to reduce your typedefs to something pyrex knows [16:38] i drive right in. its fun. [16:40] i think my gripe is largely with 32/64bit clean C. pyrex seems to completely ignore the problem [17:13] http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/134092 lol [17:13] pfft. :) [17:35] yeah, it needs to be Thingy1 so it doesn't clash with future Thingy implementations [17:38] exactly [17:47] so, who else didn't realize until yesterday that next week was thanksgiving? [17:47] * rick_h is counting down the days [17:48] :) [17:48] me too, now ;) [17:49] going to get some good shop time in next weekend. And I get pumpkin pie on thanksgiving so yay [17:49] jcastro_: you up for the woodworking meeting tomorrow night? [17:49] speaking of shop time [17:50] oh man so jealous jcastro_ gets to go to woodworking meeting! [17:50] well I dragged him to one, going for two [17:51] the washtenaw lug is having a meeting about sshfs tomorrow for those of you in that area [17:52] wait, lugwash is tomorrow? [17:52] oo yeah, sorry to introduce choices [17:59] anyone ever seen tmux eat memory? http://pastebin.com/P8KcnMd4 [18:01] nope [18:07] No, that's unique [18:50] OMG, I found something built on Pylons [18:50] http://ckan.org/developers/about-ckan/ [19:16] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13375357/proper-use-cases-for-android-usermanager-isuseragoat