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Kilosmorning all04:53
Kiloshi timkeller 05:54
Squirmmorning06:03
Kiloshi Squirm 06:03
Kiloshi SilverCode 06:20
SilverCodemorning Kilos06:20
superflymorning oom Kilos, Squirm and SilverCode06:35
Kilosmorning superfly 06:35
* superfly thinks his hard drive is dying06:35
Kilosaw dont say that06:35
Kilossend it here ill fix it06:36
Kiloshehe06:36
Kilosgot 3 of ians going so far06:36
Kilossome are very bad, but majority are mbr corrupt or gone06:36
superflyKilos: it's my work computer, so I can just get them to sort it out06:37
superflymorning mazal06:37
mazalMorning everyone06:37
Kilosthats lekker06:37
Kiloshi mazal 06:37
Kilosians work expects him to fix them with the time he doesnt have06:38
* mazal gotta go edit a fstab :P06:39
Kilossuperfly, i got one 500gB sata fixed by zeroing the drive . boot-repair and things didnt work06:39
Kiloslol @ mazal 06:39
Kiloslo nuvolari jou pc is lekker met ander ps in06:43
inetprogood morning06:45
Kiloshi inetpro 06:46
Kiloshiya maiatoday 06:54
Kilosall good girl?06:54
maiatodayhey Kilos, fine thanks and you?07:01
Kilosgood ty maiatoday 07:01
mazalLet's hop it works when it gets into the live environment07:31
Kiloshi jrgns Ludo Vince-0 07:57
jrgnsmorning :)07:57
Kilosno hop it mazal hope for the best07:58
Kiloshehe07:58
inetprolol08:17
inetproMaaz: coffee on08:17
* Maaz flips the salt-timer08:17
* inetpro hop Maaz can still make a nice cup08:17
bakumanMaaz, coffe please08:19
Maazbakuman: Go get it yourself!08:19
bakumanMaaz, coffee please08:19
Maazbakuman: Done08:19
bakumanO_O biiiiettttsss08:19
bakuman:D08:19
mazalKilos I'm building an ubuntu server , I think it will go well08:20
mazalIs fr users to access shares for backups , and mount point to a share on sql server and backups with rsync and cron08:21
MaazCoffee's ready for inetpro and bakuman!08:21
bakumanthanks Maaz 08:23
Symmetrialo08:36
Symmetriaheh, for anyone who thinks their net access is slow in .za08:36
Symmetriaspend a week in tanzania...08:36
Symmetriathen go back home and all will feel like heaven08:36
Symmetria:p08:37
mazalKilos I see you missed my message09:12
Kilosaw ya what was it mazal 09:13
mazalHow do I copy paste ?09:13
Kiloswhat09:13
mazalAg I'll just give the short version09:13
Kilosright click copy09:13
Kilosor on xchat ctrl+c09:14
mazalI'm building an ubuntu server for various tasks , I think it will go well09:14
Kilosand paste is ctrl+v09:14
Kilosdid you understand the copy paste stuff09:14
Kilosor someone else helped you while i was off09:15
mazalYa I was refering to xchat there09:15
Kilosya ctrl+c and v09:15
mazalRight-click didn't work09:15
mazalThe server stuff was this morning's discussion09:15
mazalThe fstab I had to edit etc.09:15
Kiloshighlight what you wanna copy and ctrl+c09:16
Kilosah09:16
Kiloswe got a plague of flies today. sure its gonna storm09:16
bakumanwhats wrong mazal ?09:17
mazalbakuman, I'll see when I put it into the live environment , but I'm confident there won't be too many issues09:17
mazalShares for users for their backups (samba) , mount point to sql share (fstab) and rsync and cron for sql backups to the ubuntu server09:18
mazalI basically finished setting up everything that I can at my main office , can't go further now cos they have different ip range where it's going09:19
Kilosoh mazal you not gonna do it yourself?09:37
mazalYep Kilos09:37
Kilosah thats good09:37
mazalFinished already with most of it09:37
Kilosthought you meant you were stetting it up and then was gonna send it to a different place09:38
Kilossetting09:38
mazalYa I'm gonna go and install it and then create the rsync's and crontab09:40
mazalAnd then comes the difficult part , shortcuts for the client machines09:40
Kilosah09:41
mazalAnd remember those client machines are windoze09:43
Kilosouch09:43
Kilosim trying to safe a 500gB winsucks drive so it can stay working09:44
Kilosusing clamtk to find the virii that killed it09:44
Kilosfirst time for this mission09:45
Kilosnormally just install ubuntu09:45
Kilosand part the drive empty09:46
Kilossome of the virusses are very powerful. did a sata drive here on this pc and it slowed my 12.04 till it was like a 48609:47
Kilosso that drive got zeroed09:47
Kilosvery tricky operation that09:47
Kilosdont always work09:47
mazalSjoe09:48
mazalAnd the user don't have backup so that re-install is an option ?09:49
Kilosnope they supplied another drive so work can go on09:50
Kilosthe drives was dead but ubuntu sees and can open it09:50
Kiloswell dead in their win pcs09:52
mazalAnd you got and want to use it in your pc ?09:54
Kilosnope want to give it back to them09:54
mazalMust the data stay intact ?09:54
Kiloshopefully yes09:54
Kilosotherwise id just format it09:55
Kilosand give it a new mbr09:55
Kilosian tried doing some but he hasnt got time. and data recovery and removing virii tkes hours09:56
Kilostakes as well09:56
Kilosbut i really enjoy doing this kinda work09:57
Kiloswanna appeal to everyone to send me scrap drives i could use for spares etc09:57
Kiloslike i have a 500gB sata here that has the plastic bracket but the data cable connection broken so sata cables doesnt stay put09:58
Kilosneeds just the pc board underneath replaced but seagate dont supply spares09:59
Kilossigh09:59
Kilosand im making bolognaise for tonight so in and out here10:01
mazalNow I be hungry :P10:03
Kiloshehe sorry10:03
Kilostimkeller, where are you10:43
timkellerHey Kilos, I'm in Cape Town10:43
timkellerSouthern Subs10:43
Kilosah you that tim10:43
Kilosfish hoek10:44
Kiloswhat a diskette? a stiffy?10:48
KilosNew: the MBRtool installer now includes an easy to use boot diskette builder that will assist you in creating a diskette or bootable CD/DVD.10:48
Kiloslike a pippette is a small pip11:02
timkellerKilos: Heh, yeah, you know me?11:07
Kilosno timkeller just saw the mail about dvds and wondered if you were the same guy11:09
Kilosyo SmilyBorg_w 11:10
timkellerdvds?11:10
* mazal had russian and chips , glares at oom Kilos11:10
Kiloslol sorry mazal 11:10
mazalhehehe11:10
Kilosthats good too11:10
Kilosi enjoy lekker slap chips with salt and vinegar11:11
mazalJa , genuine kafie chips :)11:11
SmilyBorg_whi there11:17
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mazalHi SmilyBorg 11:18
Kiloshi psydroid 11:40
psydroidhi Kilos11:41
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* Trixar_za 's eye twitches11:54
Trixar_zaThey want a Linux expert... but he must have a MCSE11:54
* Trixar_za facepalms11:55
Kilosaw11:57
Kiloskeep studying and next time you get one11:57
Trixar_zalol11:58
Kilosyou young guys shouls study as much as you can11:58
Kilosshould11:58
Trixar_zaI don't want one11:59
Kilosok11:59
Trixar_zaRHCE maybe, but not MCSE11:59
Kilosi dunno what they are but anyway12:00
Kilosall these abreviations flatten my head12:00
Trixar_zaRed Hat Certified Engineer and Microsoft Certified System Engineer12:00
Trixar_zaBasically the latter only teaches you to work with Windows12:00
Trixar_zaHence the irony of this job listing12:00
Kilosoh Squirm has the redhat one methinks12:00
Kilosi see why you dont want the other one12:01
Kiloswho wants the sucks stuff12:01
Trixar_zaNot just that. I worked with two and both openly admitted it didn't prepare them for their jobs at all12:02
Kilostypical12:02
Kilosis it easy or hard course12:03
Kiloseveryone knows windows from struggling with it12:03
Kilosyou busy Trixar_za ?12:09
Trixar_zaNot really. Planning of sneaking in converted packages into the official SliTaz repository12:14
Kiloslol can you look at something for me please12:14
Kiloshttp://www.diydatarecovery.nl/DiskPatch.htm12:14
Kilosdoes that have to be downloaded and install to a ms pc to start with12:15
Kiloswould be good as it says it can fix things and recover data in place12:16
Trixar_zaOh that. Yeah, it works well enough and I have used it before12:16
Trixar_zaIt can supposedly also fix bad sectors (not really, but it runs over it again and checks if the sector is really bad or just marked as such)12:17
Kilosand you gotta get it with a windows pc to install it on to then make the cd?12:19
Kilosgrrr12:19
Trixar_zaProbably. I haven't used it in years - lol12:19
Trixar_zaI still prefer TestDisk and PhotoRec myself12:19
Kilossigh. will install xp to a tiny drive and see12:20
Kilosty12:20
Trixar_zaMostly because you can run it on any system, Linux, MacOs and Windows12:20
Kilosya but they next space to recover to12:20
Kilosneed12:20
Trixar_zaYeah12:20
Trixar_zaI normally just recover to a USB flashdrive myself12:20
Kilosso how do you recover a 1TB drives info to 80G12:21
Kilosthats the advantage i can see with this one12:21
Trixar_zaIt's a sector scrapper rather than an undelete though12:21
Trixar_zaProbably better to use an undelete with NTFS or FAT systems and an undelete tool for ext3 systems checking in lost+found12:22
Kilosdo you know how large the download is?12:22
Kiloswhat i think is good to about it is that it fixes corrupt files in place12:23
Kilosthats like the whole ms OS anyway12:23
Trixar_zaFile rebuilding is more an art than anything12:23
Trixar_zaThe more complex it is, the harder it is to recover12:24
Trixar_zadocuments are the easiest while media files and executables are the hardest12:24
Kilosim more worried about repairing mbr and boot sectors actually12:24
Kilosthat seems to be where some ugly virii get to crash ms pcs12:26
Trixar_zaCan't you do that with your Windows CD?12:26
Trixar_zaBoot into it and then go to into recovery mode12:26
Kilostried on some and it dont wanna12:26
Kilosfixmbr said it worked but fixboot had some excuse12:27
Kilosbut drive still didnt boot12:27
Kilosso i would like to try one or 2 more things before zeroing the drive12:28
Kiloss12:28
Kiloskeep zeroing as last option'12:28
Trixar_zaMight be the first few MB of the drive is corrupted12:30
Trixar_zaThat means the drive can't be booted normally12:30
Kilosya thats where the prob normally is12:31
Trixar_zaMost sector scrappers jump over that. I once used one that worked with Windows... but it's not free anymore12:31
Kilosfirst 512kB12:31
Kiloszeroing makes pc see drive like a new one the i think the mbr gets added from bios or something12:32
Kiloson booting from same os as you used to zero with12:32
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Kilosyo hubx_ Cantide 15:36
Kiloshmm15:46
Cantidehello :p15:52
Cantideoh.. he quit -.-15:52
Cantidei have to, too :'(15:52
mazalHi all, can someone maybe help me please. Where can I see a list of special characters that Ubuntu can do. For example the ê , ë etc.16:07
Kerberogoogle "compoze key"16:09
KerberoMaaz: google compoze key16:09
MaazKerbero: "Compose key - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key :: "ComposeKey - Community Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComposeKey :: "Revival of the Compose Key aka Multi_Key - Linuxhowtos.org" http://www.linuxhowtos.org/Tips%20and%20Tricks/compose.htm :: "Tutorials/ComposeKey - KDE UserBase Wiki"16:10
Maazhttp://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/ComposeKey :: "Compose Key Sequences" http://www.schwarzvoge…16:10
Tonberrymêh16:10
Kerberoghé16:10
Kerberodit is 26.1°C hier16:11
Kerberohoeveel € kos 'n bier daar Tonberry?16:11
Tonberry2-416:12
Kerberomaar die selfde as hier dus16:12
Tonberrypretty much16:12
Kerberoen dis vir 30 of 50 cL?16:13
Tonberry3016:14
Kerberook effens duurder16:14
mazalTa Kerbero , this is what I was looking for: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GtkComposeTable16:16
Kerbero:)16:16
mazalBye for now everyone , have a blessed evening16:20
nuvolarialoha :>17:18
nuvolariwhut whut? oom kilos not around? 17:19
nuvolari:(17:19
Superhumannuvolari: [17:47:17] <-- Kilos has quit (Quit: Leaving)17:31
Squirmevening17:33
Superhumanevening Squirm17:37
Kilosmevening all17:43
magespawngood evening18:24
Kilosmhi magespawn where you been18:28
Kilosmi needed info from you18:28
Kilosmforgot what now18:28
Kilosmoh ya18:28
magespawnhad a real cow of a wireless ap install today18:29
Kilosmhow do you make clamtk check a whole other drive18:29
Kilosmaw thats bad18:29
Kilosmi get it to check one folder at a time18:29
Kilosmbut forget that now18:29
magespawnscan a folder, then just select the drive letter i think18:30
Kilosmim past that just formatted the whole drive18:31
Kilosmwoulda taken hours to scan a 500gB winsucks18:31
Kilosmoh magespawn there is another data recovery tool if you scroll back18:32
Kilosmi gave the link to Trix[a]r_za 18:33
Kilosmon other pc now so i dont see it18:33
Kilosmlooks good recovers data in same drive no space needed to save files18:33
Kilosmand fixes mbr and boot and partitions18:33
Kilosmif one can believe what they say18:34
magespawnwill scroll18:34
magespawnfound it18:38
magespawn there is a good recovery program for win ZAR or Zero Assumption Recovery, limited use is free18:39
Kilosmsize of download?18:40
nuvolarilo magespawn 18:41
Kilosmif peeps didnt want their stuff id install ubuntu on them all18:41
nuvolarihi oom Kilosm 18:41
Kilosmlo nuvolari 18:41
nuvolarioom Kilosm, hoeveel 8ta sims het oom?18:41
magespawnhi nuvolari 18:41
Kilosm218:41
Kilosmhoekom?18:41
nuvolari:> heh, weet oom van 8ta freezone?18:42
magespawnnot sure Kilos but here is the link  http://www.z-a-recovery.com/index.html18:42
Kilosmnee wat is dit18:42
nuvolariKilosm: oom kan met 8ta gratis google searches doen, en gratis google+ en gmail van die foon af18:42
Kilosmi hate them things magespawn they show a download button but no size18:42
Kilosmeish van die foon18:43
nuvolaridis al nadeel ongelukkig18:43
magespawnand if you use a tablet nuvolari ?18:43
nuvolari'nadeel'18:43
Kilosmek kan amper nie die foon sien nie never mind g+ daarop18:43
magespawnwith its own wifi hotspot?18:43
nuvolarimagespawn: well' I don't know about tablets 18:43
nuvolarilemme read up on that18:44
magespawnwould be interesting to find out18:44
nuvolarihttp://8ta.com/freezone18:44
Kilosmim so addicted to a 17 inch screen eyes dont wanna see anything smaller18:44
nuvolariUploading a photo on Google+ will not incur any costs.18:46
nuvolariFree Zone is restricted to mobile phones.18:46
Kilosmsounds good nuvolari 18:46
nuvolarimeh :-/ I missed this part: The offer will be available from the 13th of November 2012 until the 31st of May 2013.18:46
Kilosmwill try it and get info from you when i get that sim going18:47
Kilosm6 months of free stuff is better than none18:47
nuvolariCan I use Google Free Zone on my smartphone or Android device?18:48
nuvolariYes, you can. However, while Google Free Zone can be used on all internet-enabled phones, the experience is not optimized for smartphones.18:48
magespawnnot on tablets though18:49
magespawnwonder if it will work on my N90018:49
Kilosmhave you got 8ta magespawn ?18:50
magespawnaccording to that sight it is not just 8ta18:50
magespawnsite 18:51
nuvolarieh? it is18:51
magespawnjust checking the list of operators now18:51
smile4everhi :p18:52
nuvolarianyhow, I think it's really a great move/trial by them18:52
nuvolarihowdy smile4ever :)18:52
Kilosmhi smile18:52
Kilosmhmm forgot to tab18:53
magespawnin this country the inly other people to get it are in the phillipines, (spelling?)18:53
nuvolaritheir target is not to compete IMO, but as they stated, it's a way of exposing the internet to first-time-users18:53
magespawnhi smile4ever 18:53
smile4everhi friends :)18:54
nuvolarihrrrr! :( I have to get rid of this slacking18:54
magespawnthey way they word that though makes it sound like they are planning on letting everyone in if it works18:54
nuvolariwork hard at work, get home, want to do something but I'm so, well, not inspired :P18:55
smile4evernuvolari: if you're talking about slacking, try slackware :p18:55
nuvolarismile4ever: lol no no, just talking about having no ethusiasm to do anything when I get home18:56
nuvolariI really need my leave now18:56
smile4evernuvolari: o :(18:57
smile4evernuvolari: I learned a new word today :D18:59
Kilosmwhat?18:59
nuvolarismile4ever: oh yeah? what is it?18:59
nuvolari'klopbisselboom'18:59
Kilosmklopdisselboom18:59
Kilosmis that crankshaft19:00
Kilosmno thats krukas19:00
nuvolariKilosm: er, I think so19:00
nuvolarioh19:00
nuvolaridriveshaft?19:00
nuvolarino19:00
nuvolarihmm19:00
smile4evernuvolari: "slacking" :p19:00
Kilosmswaar says if everything is going well its going klopdisselboom19:01
nuvolarismile4ever: oh! well, it's like being muf, bad, spineless, lifeless19:01
Kilosmmod word is cool19:01
nuvolariKilosm: heh, klopdisselboom translates to 'wine and roses'19:02
Kilosmhehe19:02
smile4ever:)19:03
nuvolariI just wanna fly my heli19:03
Kilosmlol19:03
nuvolarithat's the only thing that currently inspires me19:03
Kilosmmake lotsa money and get a real one19:03
nuvolarinah, it's not the same19:04
nuvolariif you crash in a real one you can end up dead19:04
Kilosmlook at work as a means of achieving your goals19:04
Kilosmdead is good, no headaches there19:04
nuvolarilol19:04
nuvolarialso 'no life'19:04
Kilosmhehe19:04
Kilosmwho knows19:05
Kilosmmaybe a life of wine and roses19:05
Kilosmdont fancy the wine part though19:05
nuvolarinoo, I'll fancy that part19:05
Kilosmhahaha19:05
nuvolarias long as it's not beer I'm happy19:05
Kilosmtea and roses be better19:05
Kilosmor nescafe classic and roses19:06
Kilosmhey superfly no comments19:07
Kilosmi nearly ready for bed and you said niks19:08
Kilosmall these virussed drives have killed the sound in my maverick xchat19:09
Kilosmgrrr19:09
nuvolariand then you get nights like tonight where I crash for no reason and it's no fun anymore19:11
nuvolari*sigh*19:11
nuvolariKilosm: oh! I saw you said the pc is running kiff with a new PS19:11
Kilosmyeah its very lekker nuvolari ,sees other drives first time without swopping power cables everytime19:12
Kilosmmust be the switching circuitry in the ps19:12
nuvolarinice! 19:13
nuvolariI'm glad it's running good now oom :>19:13
Kilosmty gain19:13
Kilosmagain as well19:13
Kilosmi go sleep now. night all. sleep tight19:17
magespawnnight Kilosm19:18
Kilosmsee you all morrow time19:18
kbmonkeyhola19:22
magtieHi19:22
smile4everkbmonkey: hola! :D19:22
smile4everare you the knowledge database? :o19:22
nuvolariha die apie is hier! :D19:23
nuvolarilo kbmonkey 19:23
kbmonkeyhi nuvolari and smile4ever and magtie XD19:23
smile4ever:)19:24
magespawnhey kbmonkey magtie19:24
* smile4ever thinks about greasemonkey / spidermonkey19:24
smile4ever:)19:24
kbmonkeyhow goes it in virtual world?19:25
* smile4ever looks around19:25
nuvolarifor one, I'm going to hit the hay19:26
nuvolari:-/ this is a long week19:26
kbmonkeysquee. just got ruby installed in rvm :)19:26
kbmonkeytoo long week :(19:26
nuvolariyeah19:26
nuvolarianyhow, have a good evening - till we meet again19:27
kbmonkeycat week > /dev/null19:27
kbmonkeybye nuco19:27
kbmonkeynuvo*19:27
smile4everbyeee, see ya all tomorrow :p19:29
magespawnkbmonkey: you been busy?19:30
kbmonkeyin daytime at work, yes, plenty. how about you magespawn ?19:31
magespawnyup busy couple of weeks or so19:32
kbmonkeyi get the feeling one will never be not-busy :P19:39
magespawnahh maybe later19:47
magespawni generally like having things to do19:48
zerefhuurrrmmm19:48
zerefhi magespawn kbmonkey 19:49
kbmonkeyhi zeref 19:49
magespawnhey zeref 19:50
zereffist day at work19:50
zerefand already wrting scripts :D19:50
kbmonkeynice one19:50
magespawnand? doing what?19:50
zerefwww.virtualpostman.co.za19:51
magespawncool19:56
kbmonkeycool zeref 20:08
kbmonkeygood night folks -.-20:11
magespawnnight all20:19
KilosKidHi everyone. :)20:56
KilosKidsuperfly, ?21:10

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