[04:53] morning all [05:54] hi timkeller [06:03] morning [06:03] hi Squirm [06:20] hi SilverCode [06:20] morning Kilos [06:35] morning oom Kilos, Squirm and SilverCode [06:35] morning superfly [06:35] * superfly thinks his hard drive is dying [06:35] aw dont say that [06:36] send it here ill fix it [06:36] hehe [06:36] got 3 of ians going so far [06:36] some are very bad, but majority are mbr corrupt or gone [06:37] Kilos: it's my work computer, so I can just get them to sort it out [06:37] morning mazal [06:37] Morning everyone [06:37] thats lekker [06:37] hi mazal [06:38] ians work expects him to fix them with the time he doesnt have [06:39] * mazal gotta go edit a fstab :P [06:39] superfly, i got one 500gB sata fixed by zeroing the drive . boot-repair and things didnt work [06:39] lol @ mazal [06:43] lo nuvolari jou pc is lekker met ander ps in [06:45] good morning [06:46] hi inetpro [06:54] hiya maiatoday [06:54] all good girl? [07:01] hey Kilos, fine thanks and you? [07:01] good ty maiatoday [07:31] Let's hop it works when it gets into the live environment [07:57] hi jrgns Ludo Vince-0 [07:57] morning :) [07:58] no hop it mazal hope for the best [07:58] hehe [08:17] lol [08:17] Maaz: coffee on [08:17] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [08:17] * inetpro hop Maaz can still make a nice cup [08:19] Maaz, coffe please [08:19] bakuman: Go get it yourself! [08:19] Maaz, coffee please [08:19] bakuman: Done [08:19] O_O biiiiettttsss [08:19] :D [08:20] Kilos I'm building an ubuntu server , I think it will go well [08:21] Is fr users to access shares for backups , and mount point to a share on sql server and backups with rsync and cron [08:21] Coffee's ready for inetpro and bakuman! [08:23] thanks Maaz [08:36] lo [08:36] heh, for anyone who thinks their net access is slow in .za [08:36] spend a week in tanzania... [08:36] then go back home and all will feel like heaven [08:37] :p [09:12] Kilos I see you missed my message [09:13] aw ya what was it mazal [09:13] How do I copy paste ? [09:13] what [09:13] Ag I'll just give the short version [09:13] right click copy [09:14] or on xchat ctrl+c [09:14] I'm building an ubuntu server for various tasks , I think it will go well [09:14] and paste is ctrl+v [09:14] did you understand the copy paste stuff [09:15] or someone else helped you while i was off [09:15] Ya I was refering to xchat there [09:15] ya ctrl+c and v [09:15] Right-click didn't work [09:15] The server stuff was this morning's discussion [09:15] The fstab I had to edit etc. [09:16] highlight what you wanna copy and ctrl+c [09:16] ah [09:16] we got a plague of flies today. sure its gonna storm [09:17] whats wrong mazal ? [09:17] bakuman, I'll see when I put it into the live environment , but I'm confident there won't be too many issues [09:18] Shares for users for their backups (samba) , mount point to sql share (fstab) and rsync and cron for sql backups to the ubuntu server [09:19] I basically finished setting up everything that I can at my main office , can't go further now cos they have different ip range where it's going [09:37] oh mazal you not gonna do it yourself? [09:37] Yep Kilos [09:37] ah thats good [09:37] Finished already with most of it [09:38] thought you meant you were stetting it up and then was gonna send it to a different place [09:38] setting [09:40] Ya I'm gonna go and install it and then create the rsync's and crontab [09:40] And then comes the difficult part , shortcuts for the client machines [09:41] ah [09:43] And remember those client machines are windoze [09:43] ouch [09:44] im trying to safe a 500gB winsucks drive so it can stay working [09:44] using clamtk to find the virii that killed it [09:45] first time for this mission [09:45] normally just install ubuntu [09:46] and part the drive empty [09:47] some of the virusses are very powerful. did a sata drive here on this pc and it slowed my 12.04 till it was like a 486 [09:47] so that drive got zeroed [09:47] very tricky operation that [09:47] dont always work [09:48] Sjoe [09:49] And the user don't have backup so that re-install is an option ? [09:50] nope they supplied another drive so work can go on [09:50] the drives was dead but ubuntu sees and can open it [09:52] well dead in their win pcs [09:54] And you got and want to use it in your pc ? [09:54] nope want to give it back to them [09:54] Must the data stay intact ? [09:54] hopefully yes [09:55] otherwise id just format it [09:55] and give it a new mbr [09:56] ian tried doing some but he hasnt got time. and data recovery and removing virii tkes hours [09:56] takes as well [09:57] but i really enjoy doing this kinda work [09:57] wanna appeal to everyone to send me scrap drives i could use for spares etc [09:58] like i have a 500gB sata here that has the plastic bracket but the data cable connection broken so sata cables doesnt stay put [09:59] needs just the pc board underneath replaced but seagate dont supply spares [09:59] sigh [10:01] and im making bolognaise for tonight so in and out here [10:03] Now I be hungry :P [10:03] hehe sorry [10:43] timkeller, where are you [10:43] Hey Kilos, I'm in Cape Town [10:43] Southern Subs [10:43] ah you that tim [10:44] fish hoek [10:48] what a diskette? a stiffy? [10:48] New: the MBRtool installer now includes an easy to use boot diskette builder that will assist you in creating a diskette or bootable CD/DVD. [11:02] like a pippette is a small pip [11:07] Kilos: Heh, yeah, you know me? [11:09] no timkeller just saw the mail about dvds and wondered if you were the same guy [11:10] yo SmilyBorg_w [11:10] dvds? [11:10] * mazal had russian and chips , glares at oom Kilos [11:10] lol sorry mazal [11:10] hehehe [11:10] thats good too [11:11] i enjoy lekker slap chips with salt and vinegar [11:11] Ja , genuine kafie chips :) [11:17] hi there === SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg [11:18] Hi SmilyBorg [11:40] hi psydroid [11:41] hi Kilos === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [11:54] * Trixar_za 's eye twitches [11:54] They want a Linux expert... but he must have a MCSE [11:55] * Trixar_za facepalms [11:57] aw [11:57] keep studying and next time you get one [11:58] lol [11:58] you young guys shouls study as much as you can [11:58] should [11:59] I don't want one [11:59] ok [11:59] RHCE maybe, but not MCSE [12:00] i dunno what they are but anyway [12:00] all these abreviations flatten my head [12:00] Red Hat Certified Engineer and Microsoft Certified System Engineer [12:00] Basically the latter only teaches you to work with Windows [12:00] Hence the irony of this job listing [12:00] oh Squirm has the redhat one methinks [12:01] i see why you dont want the other one [12:01] who wants the sucks stuff [12:02] Not just that. I worked with two and both openly admitted it didn't prepare them for their jobs at all [12:02] typical [12:03] is it easy or hard course [12:03] everyone knows windows from struggling with it [12:09] you busy Trixar_za ? [12:14] Not really. Planning of sneaking in converted packages into the official SliTaz repository [12:14] lol can you look at something for me please [12:14] http://www.diydatarecovery.nl/DiskPatch.htm [12:15] does that have to be downloaded and install to a ms pc to start with [12:16] would be good as it says it can fix things and recover data in place [12:16] Oh that. Yeah, it works well enough and I have used it before [12:17] It can supposedly also fix bad sectors (not really, but it runs over it again and checks if the sector is really bad or just marked as such) [12:19] and you gotta get it with a windows pc to install it on to then make the cd? [12:19] grrr [12:19] Probably. I haven't used it in years - lol [12:19] I still prefer TestDisk and PhotoRec myself [12:20] sigh. will install xp to a tiny drive and see [12:20] ty [12:20] Mostly because you can run it on any system, Linux, MacOs and Windows [12:20] ya but they next space to recover to [12:20] need [12:20] Yeah [12:20] I normally just recover to a USB flashdrive myself [12:21] so how do you recover a 1TB drives info to 80G [12:21] thats the advantage i can see with this one [12:21] It's a sector scrapper rather than an undelete though [12:22] Probably better to use an undelete with NTFS or FAT systems and an undelete tool for ext3 systems checking in lost+found [12:22] do you know how large the download is? [12:23] what i think is good to about it is that it fixes corrupt files in place [12:23] thats like the whole ms OS anyway [12:23] File rebuilding is more an art than anything [12:24] The more complex it is, the harder it is to recover [12:24] documents are the easiest while media files and executables are the hardest [12:24] im more worried about repairing mbr and boot sectors actually [12:26] that seems to be where some ugly virii get to crash ms pcs [12:26] Can't you do that with your Windows CD? [12:26] Boot into it and then go to into recovery mode [12:26] tried on some and it dont wanna [12:27] fixmbr said it worked but fixboot had some excuse [12:27] but drive still didnt boot [12:28] so i would like to try one or 2 more things before zeroing the drive [12:28] s [12:28] keep zeroing as last option' [12:30] Might be the first few MB of the drive is corrupted [12:30] That means the drive can't be booted normally [12:31] ya thats where the prob normally is [12:31] Most sector scrappers jump over that. I once used one that worked with Windows... but it's not free anymore [12:31] first 512kB [12:32] zeroing makes pc see drive like a new one the i think the mbr gets added from bios or something [12:32] on booting from same os as you used to zero with === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [15:36] yo hubx_ Cantide [15:46] hmm [15:52] hello :p [15:52] oh.. he quit -.- [15:52] i have to, too :'( [16:07] Hi all, can someone maybe help me please. Where can I see a list of special characters that Ubuntu can do. For example the ê , ë etc. [16:09] google "compoze key" [16:09] Maaz: google compoze key [16:10] Kerbero: "Compose key - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key :: "ComposeKey - Community Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComposeKey :: "Revival of the Compose Key aka Multi_Key - Linuxhowtos.org" http://www.linuxhowtos.org/Tips%20and%20Tricks/compose.htm :: "Tutorials/ComposeKey - KDE UserBase Wiki" [16:10] http://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/ComposeKey :: "Compose Key Sequences" http://www.schwarzvoge… [16:10] mêh [16:10] ghé [16:11] dit is 26.1°C hier [16:11] hoeveel € kos 'n bier daar Tonberry? [16:12] 2-4 [16:12] maar die selfde as hier dus [16:12] pretty much [16:13] en dis vir 30 of 50 cL? [16:14] 30 [16:14] ok effens duurder [16:16] Ta Kerbero , this is what I was looking for: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GtkComposeTable [16:16] :) [16:20] Bye for now everyone , have a blessed evening [17:18] aloha :> [17:19] whut whut? oom kilos not around? [17:19] :( [17:31] nuvolari: [17:47:17] <-- Kilos has quit (Quit: Leaving) [17:33] evening [17:37] evening Squirm [17:43] evening all [18:24] good evening [18:28] hi magespawn where you been [18:28] i needed info from you [18:28] forgot what now [18:28] oh ya [18:29] had a real cow of a wireless ap install today [18:29] how do you make clamtk check a whole other drive [18:29] aw thats bad [18:29] i get it to check one folder at a time [18:29] but forget that now [18:30] scan a folder, then just select the drive letter i think [18:31] im past that just formatted the whole drive [18:31] woulda taken hours to scan a 500gB winsucks [18:32] oh magespawn there is another data recovery tool if you scroll back [18:33] i gave the link to Trix[a]r_za [18:33] on other pc now so i dont see it [18:33] looks good recovers data in same drive no space needed to save files [18:33] and fixes mbr and boot and partitions [18:34] if one can believe what they say [18:34] will scroll [18:38] found it [18:39] there is a good recovery program for win ZAR or Zero Assumption Recovery, limited use is free [18:40] size of download? [18:41] lo magespawn [18:41] if peeps didnt want their stuff id install ubuntu on them all [18:41] hi oom Kilosm [18:41] lo nuvolari [18:41] oom Kilosm, hoeveel 8ta sims het oom? [18:41] hi nuvolari [18:41] 2 [18:41] hoekom? [18:42] :> heh, weet oom van 8ta freezone? [18:42] not sure Kilos but here is the link http://www.z-a-recovery.com/index.html [18:42] nee wat is dit [18:42] Kilosm: oom kan met 8ta gratis google searches doen, en gratis google+ en gmail van die foon af [18:42] i hate them things magespawn they show a download button but no size [18:43] eish van die foon [18:43] dis al nadeel ongelukkig [18:43] and if you use a tablet nuvolari ? [18:43] 'nadeel' [18:43] ek kan amper nie die foon sien nie never mind g+ daarop [18:43] with its own wifi hotspot? [18:43] magespawn: well' I don't know about tablets [18:44] lemme read up on that [18:44] would be interesting to find out [18:44] http://8ta.com/freezone [18:44] im so addicted to a 17 inch screen eyes dont wanna see anything smaller [18:46] Uploading a photo on Google+ will not incur any costs. [18:46] Free Zone is restricted to mobile phones. [18:46] sounds good nuvolari [18:46] meh :-/ I missed this part: The offer will be available from the 13th of November 2012 until the 31st of May 2013. [18:47] will try it and get info from you when i get that sim going [18:47] 6 months of free stuff is better than none [18:48] Can I use Google Free Zone on my smartphone or Android device? [18:48] Yes, you can. However, while Google Free Zone can be used on all internet-enabled phones, the experience is not optimized for smartphones. [18:49] not on tablets though [18:49] wonder if it will work on my N900 [18:50] have you got 8ta magespawn ? [18:50] according to that sight it is not just 8ta [18:51] site [18:51] eh? it is [18:51] just checking the list of operators now [18:52] hi :p [18:52] anyhow, I think it's really a great move/trial by them [18:52] howdy smile4ever :) [18:52] hi smile [18:53] hmm forgot to tab [18:53] in this country the inly other people to get it are in the phillipines, (spelling?) [18:53] their target is not to compete IMO, but as they stated, it's a way of exposing the internet to first-time-users [18:53] hi smile4ever [18:54] hi friends :) [18:54] hrrrr! :( I have to get rid of this slacking [18:54] they way they word that though makes it sound like they are planning on letting everyone in if it works [18:55] work hard at work, get home, want to do something but I'm so, well, not inspired :P [18:55] nuvolari: if you're talking about slacking, try slackware :p [18:56] smile4ever: lol no no, just talking about having no ethusiasm to do anything when I get home [18:56] I really need my leave now [18:57] nuvolari: o :( [18:59] nuvolari: I learned a new word today :D [18:59] what? [18:59] smile4ever: oh yeah? what is it? [18:59] 'klopbisselboom' [18:59] klopdisselboom [19:00] is that crankshaft [19:00] no thats krukas [19:00] Kilosm: er, I think so [19:00] oh [19:00] driveshaft? [19:00] no [19:00] hmm [19:00] nuvolari: "slacking" :p [19:01] swaar says if everything is going well its going klopdisselboom [19:01] smile4ever: oh! well, it's like being muf, bad, spineless, lifeless [19:01] mod word is cool [19:02] Kilosm: heh, klopdisselboom translates to 'wine and roses' [19:02] hehe [19:03] :) [19:03] I just wanna fly my heli [19:03] lol [19:03] that's the only thing that currently inspires me [19:03] make lotsa money and get a real one [19:04] nah, it's not the same [19:04] if you crash in a real one you can end up dead [19:04] look at work as a means of achieving your goals [19:04] dead is good, no headaches there [19:04] lol [19:04] also 'no life' [19:04] hehe [19:05] who knows [19:05] maybe a life of wine and roses [19:05] dont fancy the wine part though [19:05] noo, I'll fancy that part [19:05] hahaha [19:05] as long as it's not beer I'm happy [19:05] tea and roses be better [19:06] or nescafe classic and roses [19:07] hey superfly no comments [19:08] i nearly ready for bed and you said niks [19:09] all these virussed drives have killed the sound in my maverick xchat [19:09] grrr [19:11] and then you get nights like tonight where I crash for no reason and it's no fun anymore [19:11] *sigh* [19:11] Kilosm: oh! I saw you said the pc is running kiff with a new PS [19:12] yeah its very lekker nuvolari ,sees other drives first time without swopping power cables everytime [19:12] must be the switching circuitry in the ps [19:13] nice! [19:13] I'm glad it's running good now oom :> [19:13] ty gain [19:13] again as well [19:17] i go sleep now. night all. sleep tight [19:18] night Kilosm [19:18] see you all morrow time [19:22] hola [19:22] Hi [19:22] kbmonkey: hola! :D [19:22] are you the knowledge database? :o [19:23] ha die apie is hier! :D [19:23] lo kbmonkey [19:23] hi nuvolari and smile4ever and magtie XD [19:24] :) [19:24] hey kbmonkey magtie [19:24] * smile4ever thinks about greasemonkey / spidermonkey [19:24] :) [19:25] how goes it in virtual world? [19:25] * smile4ever looks around [19:26] for one, I'm going to hit the hay [19:26] :-/ this is a long week [19:26] squee. just got ruby installed in rvm :) [19:26] too long week :( [19:26] yeah [19:27] anyhow, have a good evening - till we meet again [19:27] cat week > /dev/null [19:27] bye nuco [19:27] nuvo* [19:29] byeee, see ya all tomorrow :p [19:30] kbmonkey: you been busy? [19:31] in daytime at work, yes, plenty. how about you magespawn ? [19:32] yup busy couple of weeks or so [19:39] i get the feeling one will never be not-busy :P [19:47] ahh maybe later [19:48] i generally like having things to do [19:48] huurrrmmm [19:49] hi magespawn kbmonkey [19:49] hi zeref [19:50] hey zeref [19:50] fist day at work [19:50] and already wrting scripts :D [19:50] nice one [19:50] and? doing what? [19:51] www.virtualpostman.co.za [19:56]