| === fenris is now known as Guest68936 | ||
| agateau | Quintasan_: sorry, was away: it must be in the main package. It is started by the Plasma applet. | 08:28 |
|---|---|---|
| agateau | Quintasan_: It is the binary responsible for showing Homerun itself on top of the other windows | 08:28 |
| agateau | Having it as a separate binary prevents Homerun from taking the desktop with it in case of crashes | 08:29 |
| === fenris is now known as Guest62485 | ||
| === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ | ||
| === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw | ||
| === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ | ||
| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1079083] package qt4-doc not installed failed to install/upgrade: nicht vollständig gelesen in Puf... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1079083 (by Liam Spencer) | 10:11 |
| === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw | ||
| === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ | ||
| === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw | ||
| === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ | ||
| === fenris is now known as Guest72765 | ||
| === Guest72765 is now known as ejat | ||
| Quintasan_ | agateau: So it should be in the plasma-widget-homerun package? | 11:59 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| Riddell | Quintasan: yes, else the widget won't do much :) | 12:02 |
| Beineri | Will the qt5-beta2 ppa be also built for precise? | 12:18 |
| Riddell | golly it's Beineri | 12:19 |
| Riddell | Beineri: but probably not, that's done by canonical and they don't develop on precise | 12:19 |
| Beineri | Riddell: hi. pity | 12:22 |
| === fenris is now known as Guest89250 | ||
| === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw | ||
| === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ | ||
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:53 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: I just noticed that the Muon* about boxes say "Muon Update Manager, Version 1.4.1, Using KDE Development Platform 4.9.2". I know what you mean, but using something described as a development platform on a production system feels odd. About KDE just says, "Platform Version 4.9.2". That seems better to me. | 14:03 |
| Riddell | ScottK: that's just the stock about box for applications | 14:05 |
| Riddell | bug upstream | 14:06 |
| ScottK | Oh, sure enough. I see the same thing on Okular. | 14:06 |
| mparillo | I notice that About for rekonq says: Version 1.1 Using KDE Development Platform 4.9.3. I wonder if it is some kind of standard (not defending it). | 14:14 |
| Riddell | yes, it's all code from kdelibs, the whole Help menu is | 14:18 |
| Riddell | and it is a bug, it should be s/Development// | 14:18 |
| === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw | ||
| === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ | ||
| Riddell | lesson of the day - if a package fails to build in launchpad but builds in your newly made chroot you don't have -proposed enabled | 15:34 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 15:35 |
| === fenris is now known as Guest45110 | ||
| apol_ | don't we have kdevelop 4.4.1 in kubuntu yet? | 17:06 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: ^^ | 17:10 |
| shadeslayer | apol_: we do | 17:11 |
| shadeslayer | which release though :P | 17:11 |
| Riddell | it's in -proposed | 17:11 |
| apol_ | 12.10 | 17:11 |
| Riddell | yes, enable proposed for now | 17:11 |
| shadeslayer | yep, it's in -proposed for 12.10 | 17:11 |
| apol_ | what does proposed mean? | 17:11 |
| shadeslayer | !proposed | 17:12 |
| ubottu | The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories | 17:12 |
| Riddell | updates need to stay in -proposed for a week and get people successfully testing it before it gets into -updates | 17:12 |
| Riddell | -proposed you have to enable manually, -updates is enabled by default | 17:12 |
| Riddell | in /etc/apt/sources.list | 17:12 |
| apol_ | well, I'm unsure what's the rationale behind this, but 4.4.1 fixes some important bugs, I don't see a reason for users not benefiting from this | 17:13 |
| shadeslayer | apol_: it'll get moved to -updates eventually | 17:13 |
| shadeslayer | just not right away, this is done in order to prevent archive skew and when SRU'ing it's a testing ground for checking regressions | 17:14 |
| ScottK | apol_: We have a testing policy that mandates a waiting period so regressions can be detected. It's only waived in extreme cases. | 17:14 |
| Riddell | people got a bit grumpy one time when an X update stopped X from working | 17:14 |
| apol_ | how does a mandating period benefit users? it's a bug fix release!! | 17:14 |
| Riddell | new bugs can slip into bug fix releases | 17:15 |
| apol_ | Riddell: you can blame it on us, it's not a problem | 17:15 |
| ScottK | apol_: We have over 20,000 source packages in the distro. It's a problem. | 17:15 |
| apol_ | Riddell: that's why we have maintainers, for making sure it doesn't happen | 17:16 |
| apol_ | Riddell: we won't ever say it's a distributors fault | 17:17 |
| apol_ | but well, we spend hours fixing stuff for people to be happy and then having contention walls to this is frustrating | 17:17 |
| apol_ | and more even if the argument for not letting these things through is that we might not have done well our job | 17:18 |
| ScottK | It's a general policy that's applied everywhere. | 17:18 |
| apol_ | well | 17:18 |
| * apol_ is sad | 17:18 | |
| ScottK | As the general case we don't take new upstream versions post-release at all. | 17:18 |
| ScottK | So the fact that it's getting in at all is an favorable indication of upstream quality. | 17:19 |
| apol_ | well thank you for trusting KDE's fixes | 17:21 |
| yofel__ | hm | 17:21 |
| ScottK | Speaking of which ... | 17:22 |
| ScottK | yofel__: Did we get the krunner or whatever it was regression in 4.9.3 sorted out? | 17:22 |
| yofel__ | aseigo reverted his commit, I'll take care of it when I get home | 17:22 |
| yofel__ | unless someone else wants to do it | 17:23 |
| ScottK | Cool. | 17:23 |
| yofel__ | but speaking of which... | 17:23 |
| yofel__ | yofel_: verify your skanlite SRU | 17:23 |
| ScottK | apol_: We do see regressions in KDE post-release updates sometimes, so testing is prudent. | 17:24 |
| apol_ | ScottK: well, you didn't test the current version... | 17:25 |
| ScottK | Of what? In particular there was a workspace regression in 4.9.3. That is the current version. | 17:26 |
| apol_ | ScottK: kdevelpo | 17:26 |
| apol_ | kdevelop | 17:26 |
| ScottK | Yes, because I'm not a kdevelop user. Me testing it wouldn't make much since. | 17:27 |
| ScottK | Now if someone would package the Python plugin, that might change. | 17:27 |
| apol_ | ScottK: who's testing KDevelop? | 17:27 |
| * ScottK isn't sure. | 17:27 | |
| apol_ | prfff | 17:27 |
| Riddell | I uploaded an unstable kdevelop after consulting with upstream who were sure the stable version would be out in time for the kubuntu 12.10 release | 17:27 |
| apol_ | Riddell: yes I remember | 17:28 |
| Riddell | it wasn't, which happens with software, and arguably I should have downgraded or removed it | 17:28 |
| apol_ | well we've had it fixed for some days already | 17:28 |
| apol_ | a month actually | 17:29 |
| === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw | ||
| Riddell | yeah, we should have been faster doing the update | 17:30 |
| apol_ | well... isn't it just that nobody has offered the fixed package to end users? | 17:30 |
| Riddell | we're in the process of doing so | 17:32 |
| * apol_ doesn't understand | 17:32 | |
| apol_ | I guess I should just let go -.- | 17:33 |
| Riddell | apol_: would be good to have testers check the bugs are fixed and comment on bug 1067611 | 17:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1067611 in kdevelop (Ubuntu Quantal) "[SRU] Meta bug for tracking KDevelop SRU" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1067611 | 17:35 |
| * yofel__ makes his way home - bbiab | 17:35 | |
| Tygart | Is it a good idea to use Pre-released Updates (I am testing 13.04) | 17:36 |
| genii-around | Darn. I wanted to ask him if there was some fix for bug 1002736 in Quantal | 17:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1002736 in synaptiks (Ubuntu) "[xorg-edgers] Synaptics driver crashes KDE touchpad control module" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1002736 | 17:36 |
| apol_ | Riddell: so I should be using the other repo? | 17:37 |
| yofel__ | genii-around: if you meant me, I totally forgot about that, ping me in an ~hour | 17:37 |
| apol_ | Riddell: I try to use KDevelop stable in this computer to see what people will be using | 17:38 |
| genii-around | yofel__: OK, thanks | 17:38 |
| * apol_ has to ho | 17:38 | |
| apol_ | *go | 17:39 |
| apol_ | bbl | 17:39 |
| Riddell | Tygart: not for unreleased version unless there's a paticular package you need to test | 17:39 |
| Tygart | Riddell: Ok, I am just looking for something to do. | 17:40 |
| Tygart | Thanks | 17:40 |
| BluesKaj | BBL... | 17:44 |
| Riddell | Tygart: oh in that case, testing lightdm-kde_0.3.0-1ubuntu1 from raring-proposed would be good once it's built :) | 17:46 |
| Tygart | Riddell: how will I get it? | 17:46 |
| Riddell | Tygart: enable Pre-released Updates | 17:47 |
| Riddell | and see if it's available in the updates | 17:47 |
| Tygart | Riddell: will I be able to choose only that update? | 17:49 |
| Tygart | sorry, I haven't done this before. | 17:50 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 17:52 |
| shadeslayer | you can upgrade via muon or do sudo apt-get install light-dm-kde-greeter | 17:53 |
| shadeslayer | lightdm-kde-greeter even | 17:53 |
| Tygart | shadeslayer: Thanks.. | 18:04 |
| ScottK | Anyone running precise on a laptop/netbook? | 18:09 |
| genii-around | ScottK: Somewhere I have it running on an Acer D260. The machine is at home right now though | 18:26 |
| yofel_ | shadeslayer: weren't you still on precise? | 18:36 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| shadeslayer | yes | 18:36 |
| shadeslayer | but it's a bit of a horrible install | 18:36 |
| shadeslayer | but, ssup? | 18:36 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: if that mac of yours has precise on it ScottK was looking for precise laptops | 18:43 |
| shadeslayer | oh okay | 18:44 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: whatcha need it for? | 18:44 |
| shadeslayer | I'm wary of upgrading because there's so much work involved | 18:45 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: There are kde-workspace and synaptiks SRUs that need verification. | 18:45 |
| shadeslayer | alright | 18:45 |
| shadeslayer | but, I'm on 4.9.3 | 18:45 |
| ScottK | The workspace one needs a battery and the synaptiks on needs a touchpad. | 18:45 |
| ScottK | Synaptiks should be fine. | 18:45 |
| shadeslayer | okay then | 18:46 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: uhhh ... the kcm module works fine for me | 18:49 |
| ScottK | Sigh. | 18:49 |
| ScottK | You didn't install the proposed stuff before and forget did you? | 18:49 |
| shadeslayer | I don't think so, I reinstalled the package and it's 0.8.1-1ubuntu1 | 18:50 |
| genii-around | yofel: Ping | 19:21 |
| yofel | genii-around: pong, will get to it shortly | 19:29 |
| genii-around | yofel: OK. The user which was having the issue in #kubuntu has left, but if there is some way to explain a solution to them if they return, it would be much appreciated. | 19:31 |
| yofel | genii-around: how does that affect quantal though? I'll upload it for raring, but the only driver version that the bug has been confirmed with isn't in the archive for quantal | 19:52 |
| genii-around | yofel: I assumed they were running Quantal since they asked in the regular channel and not +1, but I don't think it was actually asked what version they were on. The symptoms matched the bug exactly. | 19:57 |
| genii-around | If they return I'll try to extract more information. | 19:58 |
| yofel | yeah, I looked at the backlog, but it's kind of weird that s/he reports that it started crashing afer the driver setup (which involved some PPA's it seems) | 20:05 |
| Riddell | "Welcome to the Steam for Linux limited beta" do I want to join this? | 20:39 |
| genii-around | Riddell: Ironically in one of the ops channels, it was just mentioned that #ubuntu-steam is now open | 20:41 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: no, steam must mean something toxic /: | 20:43 |
| ScottK | Riddell: No. We don't want you distracted from making Kubuntu more wonderful. | 20:44 |
| Riddell | but maybe I'm missing out on this whole gaming thing | 20:44 |
| Riddell | maybe it's a really fun and productive use of my time | 20:44 |
| ScottK | Oh hey, I got one too. | 20:45 |
| jjesse | everyone that went to UDS got one i think | 20:49 |
| Tm_T | yup | 20:49 |
| shadeslayer | yay | 20:52 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: if you have a spare key | 20:52 |
| shadeslayer | some friends want one | 20:53 |
| shadeslayer | give me yer spare keys! :P | 20:53 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: If they want keys, they should have gone to UDS. | 20:54 |
| ScottK | (or at least registered as going in LP) | 20:54 |
| shadeslayer | haha :D | 20:59 |
| ScottK | OK. Reinstalling precise on the netbook for some SRU verification ... | 22:01 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!