wookey | doko: is that the multiarch patch finally in upstream? | 00:35 |
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doko | wookey, just x86 | 00:35 |
wookey | hmm, it's arch-specific? | 00:36 |
doko | sure | 00:37 |
wookey | doko: gcc-4.7 needs http://gcc.gnu.org/viewcvs?view=revision&revision=192504 in order to build gcrypt. It's not in 4.7.2-4 where the patch is taken from a few days earlier | 00:45 |
wookey | Do you want to update the aarch64 patch generally (I expect there are other ICE fixes) | 00:45 |
wookey | Or shall I file a bug with just that fix in a patch? | 00:46 |
doko | wookey, please check raring-proposed | 00:46 |
wookey | ah right | 00:46 |
doko | and yes, I think I'll just use the linaro branch for debian too | 00:46 |
wookey | I think that makes sense at this stage | 00:46 |
doko | makes my life easier | 00:46 |
wookey | probably makes everyone's life easier | 00:47 |
wookey | doko: OK. yes fix is in 4.7.2-5ubuntu7 from raring-proposed | 01:03 |
wookey | I'll file a debian bug to track it until it's fixed there | 01:04 |
doko | cool. please could could you prepare aarch64 cross packages for raring based on hrw's armhf cross packages? | 01:04 |
doko | nahh | 01:04 |
wookey | yes. I should do that. But I want to build a toolchain for Debian first so we at least have something there before I get called off 'distro work' | 01:06 |
wookey | I think hrw plans to upload an arm64-cross-toolchain-base before he escapes at the end of the month so we should get an automagic build in raring | 01:07 |
doko_ | wookey, now changed in the vcs | 01:10 |
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Guest94180 | oh yes | 07:51 |
dholbach | good morning | 08:29 |
elfy | morning dholbach | 08:36 |
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ruslan_ | hello! Can anybody help me with Lucid 10.04 LTS for freescale? | 10:46 |
hrw | ruslan_: can you elaborate? | 10:49 |
hrw | chromebook works fine as mobile terminal - waiting at car service while they change tires in my car | 10:51 |
xranby | ruslan_: which board are you using? the babbage, the quickstart ? | 10:52 |
ruslan_ | quickstart | 10:53 |
xranby | ruslan_: do you have 10.04 running? | 10:53 |
ruslan_ | yes | 10:53 |
xranby | is it working? | 10:53 |
ruslan_ | yes | 10:53 |
xranby | ok, can you specify what you need help with? | 10:54 |
ruslan_ | I needed to get working USB-serial and 3G USB-modem, I downloaded git kernel version from freescale and added such support, but.. | 10:56 |
xranby | ruslan_: USB serial is most likely already included | 10:56 |
xranby | ruslan_: 3G USB-modem can be tricky because if you update the kernel then you will loose GPU hardware acceleration | 10:57 |
xranby | ruslan_: freescale have not been able to release the sourcecode for the GPU driver | 10:57 |
xranby | ruslan_: the GPU is an araneo created originally by BitBoys and AMD | 10:58 |
ruslan_ | I downloaded kernel source from FREESCALE GIt | 10:58 |
xranby | ruslan_: so Freescale themself do not own the sourcecode for the GPU | 10:58 |
xranby | and thus it is not included in the Freescale git | 10:58 |
xranby | and this servely limits out ability to update the kernel for the board | 10:59 |
ruslan_ | but graphics works well and demo videos too. I used the simular to existed kernel version 2.6.35.3, so existed version was 2.6.35.3-xxxx | 11:00 |
xranby | ruslan_: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/medfield-krait-smartphone-mobile-soc,3117-7.html | 11:01 |
orik | do you guys know of anything better than Gnash for Flash support on Arm? | 11:02 |
xranby | ruslan_: is your 3G USB-modem supported by this 2.6.35.3 kernel? | 11:02 |
xranby | orik: no, you may experiment by switching renderer in gnash | 11:02 |
orik | interesting... okay :) | 11:03 |
hrw | ruslan_: so check does kernel see your modem first | 11:03 |
orik | xranby: I thought this might also work as a solution :P http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/11/how-to-run-chromeos-in-ubuntu | 11:05 |
hrw | orik: you can do same with arm one | 11:05 |
hrw | orik: or similar at least | 11:05 |
orik | I really wouldn't mind if someone brought Aura out of the sandbox | 11:06 |
orik | It grew on me fast | 11:06 |
ruslan_ | I tryed several models: huavei e1550, huawei e620 and Simcom2516E, all of them are defined by the system and they are in the list of ttyUSB devices, so NetworkManager suggests to me edit connection. I created it, tryed to connect, but network manager drops the connection with message:"You disconnected from GSM network"'' | 11:07 |
orik | ruslan_: What device do you have? | 11:08 |
hrw | I do not have experience with usb modems other then cellphones (which just works) | 11:09 |
ruslan_ | All mentioned above, but it had better to get work with Simcom 2615e | 11:09 |
orik | would uh; sacrificing graphical support in order to gain networking be an option? | 11:14 |
orik | :P | 11:14 |
ruslan_ | no I need to work graphics too | 11:15 |
ruslan_ | I don't know how to let any usb modem to establish the connection to the network | 11:18 |
xranby | ruslan_: have you specified your providers APN? | 11:19 |
ruslan_ | yes | 11:19 |
ruslan_ | APN, username,password too | 11:19 |
ruslan_ | NM-applet drops the connection immediately when i try to connect | 11:20 |
xranby | ruslan_: you may try use http://www.sakis3g.org/ to help setup the modem | 11:23 |
orik_ | oh man | 11:23 |
orik_ | xranby I had just found that | 11:23 |
orik_ | from archbang forums xD | 11:23 |
ruslan_ | I visited there, but it is not clear how to use it | 11:24 |
xranby | its a one file script | 11:24 |
orik_ | http://wiki.sakis3g.org/wiki/index.php?title=Sakis3G_installation; http://wiki.sakis3g.org/wiki/index.php?title=Sakis3G_UI | 11:25 |
orik_ | do you feel comfortable around the command line? | 11:25 |
ruslan_ | orik_, ok | 11:25 |
ruslan_ | ok, orik_, I do | 11:26 |
orik_ | ahh okay | 11:28 |
orik_ | so basically, just plug in the modem | 11:29 |
orik_ | run the script | 11:29 |
orik_ | wait for it to figure things out and ask you things | 11:29 |
orik_ | if that doesnt work we can try troubleshooting with Sakis3g | 11:29 |
ruslan_ | orik_,what version of the script is suitable for armv7? | 11:30 |
orik_ | either All architects - Binary free version or All architects - Binary free version's source | 11:32 |
xranby | ruslan_: you can use the armv4t & armv5t version its compatible with the 10.04 LTS system armel | 11:32 |
orik_ | but you should really ask xranby or someone else about building on your arm device; sometime's I've had trouble building arm packages on my pi- | 11:33 |
orik_ | disregard; use armv4t/5t | 11:33 |
orik_ | p.s. if it segfaults you might need Usb-ModemSwitch | 11:37 |
ruslan_ | i have usb-modeswitch. I downloaded version for arm4, unpacked pacckage and run, but nothing happend | 11:38 |
orik_ | how long has it been since you ran? | 11:39 |
orik_ | did you chmod it? | 11:39 |
ruslan_ | i forgot about interractive option) | 11:40 |
orik_ | anything? | 11:46 |
ruslan_ | i get failed to coonect message | 11:49 |
orik_ | ._. | 11:49 |
ruslan_ | does sakis3g use wvdial? | 11:54 |
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ruslan_ | i even don't know what to do, all modems are defined by sakis3g but noone can connect to the network, i always get message that "failed to connect" | 12:05 |
orik | netsplit :/ | 12:06 |
ruslan_ | if sakis3g uses wvdial the reason is clear | 12:06 |
ruslan_ | there is such command "netsplit :/" | 12:08 |
ruslan_ | there is no such command "netsplit :/" | 12:08 |
orik | Hahahaha | 12:08 |
orik | you cheer me up ruslan | 12:08 |
orik | I disconnected for a moment | 12:09 |
orik | is what I meant to say | 12:09 |
ruslan_ | ubuntu terminal dives me such info | 12:09 |
orik | hrw: is this what I'm supposed to do with your with your tarball? http://www.x.org/wiki/CompileXserverManually | 12:11 |
hrw | orik: use https://launchpad.net/~hrw/+archive/my-own-packages ppa | 12:12 |
orik | It relies on 1.13.0 | 12:13 |
orik | can I update to that without bricking my system? :P | 12:13 |
hrw | orik: as long as you have raring it will work | 12:14 |
orik | hrw: Okay, so last night I installed ubuntu three times. The first time I got the Plymouth issue didn't know what to do with it | 12:14 |
orik | the second time I got to 12.10 but I couldnt launch unity and had yet to install another interface | 12:15 |
orik | if I just like, install openbox-session or something | 12:15 |
orik | then get to 13.04, then apply the patch | 12:15 |
orik | that should all work I hope ;_; | 12:15 |
hrw | orik: do you read what is written on that channel in last days? | 12:16 |
hrw | orik: ogra already gave solution for plymouth | 12:17 |
hrw | and I do not care about unity - I use xfce | 12:17 |
orik | yeah I ended up fixing plymouth | 12:17 |
orik | I don't care too much for unity either; I like Openbox and tint2 | 12:17 |
orik | okay, I think I can make this happen | 12:18 |
orik | I think I asked this yesterday, but I'll ask again. What's the best way to get from 12.04 to 13.04? | 12:18 |
hrw | orik: scroll -24h and read | 12:20 |
ruslan_ | orik, may the problem be connected with networkmanager/modemmanager or policykit for them? | 12:21 |
orik | O: I'm not too sure | 12:27 |
orik | hrw: I figured out how to change my sources from precise to raring; silly me. Thank's for your help. | 12:30 |
hrw | ogra_: armsoc uploaded into raring | 12:37 |
ogra-cb_ | yay, thanks | 12:38 |
ogra-cb_ | hrw, how anout a kernel, do we know where the source is ? | 12:38 |
ogra-cb_ | *about | 12:38 |
hrw | ogra-cb_: sure | 12:39 |
ogra-cb_ | so someone should package it i guess | 12:40 |
hrw | http://git.chromium.org/gitweb/?p=chromiumos/third_party/kernel.git;a=summary iirc | 12:40 |
hrw | ogra-cb_: I heard that you already did that | 12:40 |
ogra-cb_ | lol | 12:41 |
ogra-cb_ | liars | 12:41 |
ogra-cb_ | dont belive them | 12:41 |
ogra-cb_ | once i understood the bootloader i will probably do it | 12:42 |
suihkulokki | s/package it/mainline it/ :P | 12:42 |
ogra-cb_ | nah, i dont touch kwernel code apart from rolling packages | 12:42 |
ogra-cb_ | thats up to someone else | 12:42 |
hrw | ogra-cb_: you need vboot stuff: http://git.chromium.org/gitweb/?p=chromiumos/platform/vboot_reference.git;a=summary | 12:45 |
ogra-cb_ | right, still i want to dig into the bootloasder and fully understand how to replace it etc | 12:45 |
ogra-cb_ | so we could possibly have ubuntu images ;) | 12:45 |
ogra-cb_ | plain ones | 12:45 |
hrw | ;) | 12:45 |
orik | some days I just wish everyone would use bios | 12:45 |
ogra-cb_ | eek | 12:45 |
* ogra-cb_ is so happy we are not boud to such crap on arm | 12:45 | |
hrw | orik: and we will have to wait 10s on each boot? | 12:46 |
ogra-cb_ | heh, if only | 12:46 |
ogra-cb_ | often it is so much more | 12:47 |
hrw | when I got rid of Award bios on alix.1c in favour of coreboot it booted to getty in shorter time then bios itself took | 12:48 |
ogra-cb_ | hehe, yeah | 12:48 |
hrw | and this was not optimal build as I had coreboot->seabios->grub->linux | 12:48 |
* ogra-cb_ wouldnt mind having grub on arm thouhg | 12:48 | |
ogra-cb_ | but a BIOS ?!? nah, please dont | 12:48 |
hrw | on my desktop it is sick. bios -> sata controller rom finding devices -> grub | 12:48 |
orik | I've always sorta lived in uh | 12:48 |
hrw | and I disabled one controller | 12:48 |
orik | tech poverty | 12:48 |
orik | but uh; Bios seems, to me at least | 12:48 |
orik | better than UEFI | 12:49 |
hrw | orik: you can get arm board boot in 1-2s | 12:49 |
orik | coreboot sounds interesting though | 12:49 |
hrw | orik: from power on to getty or gdm | 12:49 |
orik | O: | 12:49 |
hrw | there are tricks for it ;) | 12:49 |
ogra-cb_ | well, i would say 5 sec for gdm/lightdm | 12:50 |
ogra-cb_ | bringing up X has some penalty | 12:50 |
ogra-cb_ | anyway, back to other stuff | 12:50 |
orik | So I swapped all mentions of precise with raring; and now I'm dist-upgrading... if I run your .deb before I reboot, can I skip the whole "Unity 3D is not supported" thing? | 12:51 |
ruslan_ | Is anybody here who can help with modem or somebody who knows anybody which can help? | 12:54 |
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ogra-cb_ | hrw, so looking at the ram consumption on my chromebook after 1.5 days uptime, i see the irqbalance daemon eat 25% of my ram, do you see the same ? | 13:41 |
kulve | ruslan_: generelly is better to ask the actual question instead of something vague | 13:41 |
hrw | ogra-cb_: I do not run irqbalance | 13:41 |
ogra-cb_ | i wonder if we miss kernel features here | 13:42 |
ogra-cb_ | hrw, well, ubuntu does by default | 13:42 |
hrw | ogra-cb_: I started with linaro-alip image so I do not have many of 'ubuntu has it' probably | 13:42 |
hrw | ogra-cb_: I have ubuntu-minimal installed but rather no other ubuntu-* | 13:43 |
ogra-cb_ | ah, it is in -standard | 13:43 |
ogra-cb_ | an i think it is used by default on all ubuntu SMP installs | 13:44 |
ogra-cb_ | k, setting ONESHOT=1 will not keep it running after it balanced the IRQ allocation once | 13:46 |
ogra-cb_ | way better | 13:46 |
ogra-cb_ | heh, seems we're not the only ones with BT issues on the nexus | 13:49 |
ogra-cb_ | http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39633 | 13:49 |
ruslan_ | The problem is: i have running tis device on this distro. According to my project i have to let work on it 3g modem, that doesn't suppoty by stock kerenl. I recompiled the kernel to support it. And now I see the devices as modems in my system, but networkmanager, doesn't establish connection when i create it: NM-applet fails with the mistake:"failed to connect to GSM network" | 13:50 |
ruslan_ | may be anybody knows where i can get the distro that fully makes device Freescale iMx53 Quick Start Board workable | 13:54 |
orik | so I managed to log into 13.04, | 13:55 |
ruslan_ | standard distro is not a good idea | 13:55 |
orik | and I have no desktop or window manager O: | 13:55 |
orik | can't open a terminal so I gotta mount /dev/mmcblk0 from chrome and fix that | 13:55 |
ruslan_ | no, my company develops software not suitable for android, linux only | 13:57 |
ruslan_ | chrome os is not suitable | 13:57 |
ogra_ | orik, ctrl-alt+t | 14:01 |
ogra_ | that will open a terminal | 14:01 |
ogra_ | orik, did you see my last comment ? | 14:05 |
ogra_ | <ogra_> orik, ctrl-alt+t | 14:06 |
ogra_ | <ogra_> that will open a terminal | 14:06 |
ogra_ | no need to go back to cros | 14:06 |
orik | even without gnome or anything? | 14:06 |
ogra_ | well, unity and compiz are running even though teher is nothing displayed | 14:06 |
orik | all I get is a mouse and then the top right is connected to wifi | 14:06 |
ogra_ | so your key combo will still be respected | 14:06 |
orik | I hope they are | 14:06 |
orik | okay, let me swap back into ubuntu | 14:06 |
ogra_ | your GLES setup doesnt seem to work at all though, thats why you only get the desktop | 14:07 |
orik | I was getting lots of uh | 14:07 |
orik | cannot find locals | 14:07 |
orik | durring the upgrade to 13.04 | 14:07 |
ogra_ | fix that ;) | 14:07 |
ogra_ | /etc/default/locale has the defaults ... set it there and then run locale-gen for the respective locale | 14:07 |
orik | just got out of ubuntu | 14:15 |
orik | so, crlt-alt-t | 14:15 |
orik | did nothing | 14:15 |
orik | I also noticed that the animation for Wifi Connected has no transpancy or blur, | 14:16 |
orik | and when mashing buttons I pressed crlt-alt-f2 or something that got me into a terminal | 14:16 |
orik | nautilus is also went poof from upgrading to 13.04 | 14:16 |
kulve | make_ext4fs seems to make my /home/username directory owned by root, is there a way to prevent that? | 14:17 |
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ogra_ | kulve, how would it do that if you dont run the app as root ? | 15:36 |
achiang | ssweeny: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-nexus7/+bug/1070760 for you | 15:38 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1070760 in ubuntu-nexus7 "1st time running onboard with default theme is painfully slow" [Medium,Confirmed] | 15:38 |
ssweeny | achiang, ack | 15:38 |
kulve | ogra_: I did run it as root | 15:39 |
ogra_ | well, don't then ;) | 15:39 |
kulve | hmm.. I thought I got errors when running as normal user, but I tried to reproduce and now it succeeds.. So thanks, I'll try to flash that :) | 15:42 |
kulve | no, I just made a mistake now. Ofc it will fail when not run as root as there are directories in a rootfs that are not readable by the normal user | 15:43 |
kulve | so it must be run as root | 15:43 |
kulve | I am creating an image of a full blown rootfs directory | 15:43 |
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shPikachu | hi ppl.i downloaded ubuntu 12.04 image using the quickstart guide in omappedia | 16:52 |
shPikachu | http://omappedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Pre-built_Binaries_Guide | 16:52 |
shPikachu | to my pandaboard ES.it seems to boot, but there is no image on the DVI-D port | 16:52 |
shPikachu | in the serial console i got OK Starting kernel ... Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel. | 16:52 |
shPikachu | i accidentally pressed print scr key , and when i checked the SD there was print screen of ubuntu installation. So i guess the problem is my display. Im using the dvi-d port | 16:52 |
shPikachu | btw. im using a pandaboard | 16:52 |
ogra-cb_ | did you try the other port yet ? | 16:52 |
shPikachu | i dont have any device that uses hdmi | 16:53 |
shPikachu | my monitor is just dvi-d | 16:53 |
ogra-cb_ | doesnt matter | 16:54 |
ogra-cb_ | try the other port | 16:54 |
shPikachu | ok | 16:54 |
shPikachu | it worked | 16:55 |
shPikachu | i feel stupid | 16:55 |
shPikachu | xD | 16:55 |
ogra-cb_ | dvi is just a subset of hdmi, both ports function the same wrt graphics (hdmi just adds some lockdown capabilities and sound) | 16:55 |
shPikachu | thanks | 16:57 |
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flightscope | davidm | 22:12 |
davidm | hello flightscope | 22:16 |
flightscope | PRIVMSG davidm Hello David | 22:17 |
davidm | nope that went public | 22:17 |
* infinity giggles. | 22:17 | |
davidm | flightscope, you can't use private messages unless you join freenode (I think) | 22:18 |
davidm | infinity, is that correct? | 22:18 |
infinity | davidm: Depends on your own settings with nickserv. If you're registered, you can opt to receive messages from unregistered users (though most don't) | 22:19 |
davidm | Ah OK was unsure | 22:19 |
flightscope | I am rusty on IRC.... its been a long time | 22:19 |
davidm | no problem it will come back fast | 22:20 |
flightscope | We are going to use VAR-SOM-OM44 that uses TI OMAP4460 it seems | 22:21 |
davidm | Nice | 22:33 |
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