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wookeydoko: is that the multiarch patch finally in upstream?00:35
dokowookey, just x8600:35
wookeyhmm, it's arch-specific?00:36
dokosure00:37
wookeydoko: gcc-4.7 needs http://gcc.gnu.org/viewcvs?view=revision&revision=192504 in order to build gcrypt. It's not in 4.7.2-4 where the patch is taken from a few days earlier00:45
wookeyDo you want to update the aarch64 patch generally (I expect there are other ICE fixes)00:45
wookeyOr shall I file a bug with just that fix in a patch?00:46
dokowookey, please check raring-proposed00:46
wookeyah right00:46
dokoand yes, I think I'll just use the linaro branch for debian too00:46
wookeyI think that makes sense at this stage00:46
dokomakes my life easier00:46
wookeyprobably makes everyone's life easier00:47
wookeydoko: OK. yes fix is in 4.7.2-5ubuntu7 from raring-proposed01:03
wookeyI'll file a debian bug to track it until it's fixed there01:04
dokocool. please could could you prepare aarch64 cross packages for raring based on hrw's armhf cross packages?01:04
dokonahh01:04
wookeyyes. I should do that. But I want to build a toolchain for Debian first so we at least have something there before I get called off 'distro work'01:06
wookeyI think hrw plans to upload an arm64-cross-toolchain-base before he escapes at the end of the month so we should get an automagic build in raring01:07
doko_wookey, now changed in the vcs01:10
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Guest94180oh yes07:51
dholbachgood morning08:29
elfymorning dholbach08:36
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ruslan_hello! Can anybody help me with Lucid 10.04 LTS for freescale?10:46
hrwruslan_: can you elaborate?10:49
hrwchromebook works fine as mobile terminal - waiting at car service while they change tires in my car10:51
xranbyruslan_: which board are you using? the babbage, the quickstart ?10:52
ruslan_quickstart10:53
xranbyruslan_: do you have 10.04 running?10:53
ruslan_yes10:53
xranbyis it working?10:53
ruslan_yes10:53
xranbyok, can you specify what you need help with?10:54
ruslan_I needed to get working USB-serial and 3G USB-modem, I downloaded git kernel version from freescale  and added such support, but..10:56
xranbyruslan_: USB serial is most likely already included10:56
xranbyruslan_: 3G USB-modem can be tricky because if you update the kernel then you will loose GPU hardware acceleration10:57
xranbyruslan_: freescale have not been able to release the sourcecode for the GPU driver10:57
xranbyruslan_: the GPU is an araneo created originally by BitBoys and AMD10:58
ruslan_I downloaded kernel source from FREESCALE GIt10:58
xranbyruslan_: so Freescale themself do not own the sourcecode for the GPU10:58
xranbyand thus it is not included in the Freescale git10:58
xranbyand this servely limits out ability to update the kernel for the board10:59
ruslan_but graphics works well and demo videos too. I used the simular to existed kernel version 2.6.35.3, so existed version was 2.6.35.3-xxxx11:00
xranbyruslan_: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/medfield-krait-smartphone-mobile-soc,3117-7.html11:01
orikdo you guys know of anything better than Gnash for Flash support on Arm?11:02
xranbyruslan_: is your 3G USB-modem supported by this 2.6.35.3 kernel?11:02
xranbyorik: no,    you may experiment by switching renderer in gnash11:02
orikinteresting... okay :)11:03
hrwruslan_: so check does kernel see your modem first11:03
orikxranby: I thought this might also work as a solution :P http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/11/how-to-run-chromeos-in-ubuntu11:05
hrworik: you can do same with arm one11:05
hrworik: or similar at least11:05
orikI really wouldn't mind if someone brought Aura out of the sandbox11:06
orikIt grew on me fast11:06
ruslan_I tryed several models: huavei e1550, huawei e620 and Simcom2516E, all of them are defined by the system and they are in the list of ttyUSB devices, so NetworkManager suggests to me edit connection. I created it, tryed to connect, but network manager drops the connection with message:"You disconnected from GSM network"''11:07
orikruslan_: What device do you have?11:08
hrwI do not have experience with usb modems other then cellphones (which just works)11:09
ruslan_All mentioned above, but it had better to get work with Simcom 2615e11:09
orikwould uh; sacrificing graphical support in order to gain networking be an option?11:14
orik:P11:14
ruslan_no I need to work graphics too11:15
ruslan_I don't know how to let any usb modem to establish the connection to the network11:18
xranbyruslan_: have you specified your providers APN?11:19
ruslan_yes11:19
ruslan_APN, username,password too11:19
ruslan_NM-applet drops the connection immediately when i try to connect11:20
xranbyruslan_: you may try use http://www.sakis3g.org/     to help setup the modem11:23
orik_oh man11:23
orik_xranby I had just found that11:23
orik_from archbang forums xD11:23
ruslan_I visited there, but it is not clear how to use it11:24
xranbyits a one file script11:24
orik_http://wiki.sakis3g.org/wiki/index.php?title=Sakis3G_installation; http://wiki.sakis3g.org/wiki/index.php?title=Sakis3G_UI11:25
orik_do you feel comfortable around the command line?11:25
ruslan_orik_, ok11:25
ruslan_ok, orik_, I do11:26
orik_ahh okay11:28
orik_so basically, just plug in the modem11:29
orik_run the script11:29
orik_wait for it to figure things out and ask you things11:29
orik_if that doesnt work we can try troubleshooting with Sakis3g11:29
ruslan_orik_,what version of the script is suitable for armv7?11:30
orik_either All architects - Binary free version or All architects - Binary free version's source11:32
xranbyruslan_: you can use the armv4t & armv5t version   its compatible with the 10.04 LTS system armel11:32
orik_but you should really ask xranby or someone else about building on your arm device; sometime's I've had trouble building arm packages on my pi-11:33
orik_disregard; use armv4t/5t11:33
orik_p.s. if it segfaults you might need Usb-ModemSwitch11:37
ruslan_i have usb-modeswitch. I downloaded version for arm4, unpacked pacckage  and run, but nothing happend11:38
orik_how long has it been since you ran?11:39
orik_did you chmod it?11:39
ruslan_i forgot about interractive option)11:40
orik_anything?11:46
ruslan_i get failed to coonect message11:49
orik_._.11:49
ruslan_does sakis3g use wvdial?11:54
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ruslan_i even don't know what to do, all modems are defined by sakis3g but noone can connect to the network, i always get message that "failed to connect"12:05
oriknetsplit :/12:06
ruslan_if sakis3g uses wvdial the reason is clear12:06
ruslan_there is such command "netsplit :/"12:08
ruslan_there is no such command "netsplit :/"12:08
orikHahahaha12:08
orikyou cheer me up ruslan12:08
orikI disconnected for a moment12:09
orikis what I meant to say12:09
ruslan_ubuntu terminal dives me such info12:09
orikhrw: is this what I'm supposed to do with your with your tarball? http://www.x.org/wiki/CompileXserverManually12:11
hrworik: use https://launchpad.net/~hrw/+archive/my-own-packages ppa12:12
orikIt relies on 1.13.012:13
orikcan I update to that without bricking my system? :P12:13
hrworik: as long as you have raring it will work12:14
orikhrw: Okay, so last night I installed ubuntu three times. The first time I got the Plymouth issue didn't know what to do with it12:14
orikthe second time I got to 12.10 but I couldnt launch unity and had yet to install another interface12:15
orikif I just like, install openbox-session or something12:15
orikthen get to 13.04, then apply the patch12:15
orikthat should all work I hope ;_;12:15
hrworik: do you read what is written on that channel in last days?12:16
hrworik: ogra already gave solution for plymouth12:17
hrwand I do not care about unity - I use xfce12:17
orikyeah I ended up fixing plymouth12:17
orikI don't care too much for unity either; I like Openbox and tint212:17
orikokay, I think I can make this happen12:18
orikI think I asked this yesterday, but I'll ask again. What's the best way to get from 12.04 to 13.04?12:18
hrworik: scroll -24h and read12:20
ruslan_orik, may the problem be connected with networkmanager/modemmanager or policykit for them?12:21
orikO: I'm not too sure12:27
orikhrw: I figured out how to change my sources from precise to raring; silly me. Thank's for your help.12:30
hrwogra_: armsoc uploaded into raring12:37
ogra-cb_yay, thanks12:38
ogra-cb_hrw, how anout a kernel, do we know where the source is ?12:38
ogra-cb_*about12:38
hrwogra-cb_: sure12:39
ogra-cb_so someone should package it i guess12:40
hrwhttp://git.chromium.org/gitweb/?p=chromiumos/third_party/kernel.git;a=summary iirc12:40
hrwogra-cb_: I heard that you already did that12:40
ogra-cb_lol12:41
ogra-cb_liars12:41
ogra-cb_dont belive them12:41
ogra-cb_once i understood the bootloader i will probably do it12:42
suihkulokkis/package it/mainline it/ :P12:42
ogra-cb_nah, i dont touch kwernel code apart from rolling packages12:42
ogra-cb_thats up to someone else12:42
hrwogra-cb_: you need vboot stuff: http://git.chromium.org/gitweb/?p=chromiumos/platform/vboot_reference.git;a=summary12:45
ogra-cb_right, still i want to dig into the bootloasder and fully understand how to replace it etc12:45
ogra-cb_so we could possibly have ubuntu images ;)12:45
ogra-cb_plain ones12:45
hrw;)12:45
oriksome days I just wish everyone would use bios12:45
ogra-cb_eek12:45
* ogra-cb_ is so happy we are not boud to such crap on arm12:45
hrworik: and we will have to wait 10s on each boot?12:46
ogra-cb_heh, if only12:46
ogra-cb_often it is so much more12:47
hrwwhen I got rid of Award bios on alix.1c in favour of coreboot it booted to getty in shorter time then bios itself took12:48
ogra-cb_hehe, yeah12:48
hrwand this was not optimal build as I had coreboot->seabios->grub->linux12:48
* ogra-cb_ wouldnt mind having grub on arm thouhg12:48
ogra-cb_but a BIOS ?!? nah, please dont12:48
hrwon my desktop it is sick. bios -> sata controller rom finding devices -> grub12:48
orikI've always sorta lived in uh12:48
hrwand I disabled one controller12:48
oriktech poverty12:48
orikbut uh; Bios seems, to me at least12:48
orikbetter than UEFI12:49
hrworik: you can get arm board boot in 1-2s12:49
orikcoreboot sounds interesting though12:49
hrworik: from power on to getty or gdm12:49
orikO:12:49
hrwthere are tricks for it ;)12:49
ogra-cb_well, i would say 5 sec for gdm/lightdm12:50
ogra-cb_bringing up X has some penalty12:50
ogra-cb_anyway, back to other stuff12:50
orikSo I swapped all mentions of precise with raring; and now I'm dist-upgrading... if I run your .deb before I reboot, can I skip the whole "Unity 3D is not supported" thing?12:51
ruslan_Is anybody here who can help with modem or somebody who knows anybody which can help?12:54
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ogra-cb_hrw, so looking at the ram consumption on my chromebook after 1.5 days uptime, i see the irqbalance daemon eat 25% of my ram, do you see the same ?13:41
kulveruslan_: generelly is better to ask the actual question instead of something vague13:41
hrwogra-cb_: I do not run irqbalance13:41
ogra-cb_i wonder if we miss kernel features here13:42
ogra-cb_hrw, well, ubuntu does by default13:42
hrwogra-cb_: I started with linaro-alip image so I do not have many of 'ubuntu has it' probably13:42
hrwogra-cb_: I have ubuntu-minimal installed but rather no other ubuntu-*13:43
ogra-cb_ah, it is in -standard13:43
ogra-cb_an i think it is used by default on all ubuntu SMP installs13:44
ogra-cb_k, setting ONESHOT=1 will not keep it running after it balanced the IRQ allocation once13:46
ogra-cb_way better13:46
ogra-cb_heh, seems we're not the only ones with BT issues on the nexus13:49
ogra-cb_http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3963313:49
ruslan_The problem is: i have running tis device on this distro. According to my project i have to let work on it 3g modem, that doesn't suppoty by stock kerenl. I recompiled the kernel to support it. And now I see the devices as modems in my system, but networkmanager, doesn't establish connection when i create it: NM-applet fails with the mistake:"failed to connect to GSM network"13:50
ruslan_may be anybody knows where i can get the distro that fully makes device Freescale iMx53 Quick Start Board workable13:54
orikso I managed to log into 13.04,13:55
ruslan_standard distro is not a good idea13:55
orikand I have no desktop or window manager O:13:55
orikcan't open a terminal so I gotta mount /dev/mmcblk0 from chrome and fix that13:55
ruslan_no, my company develops software not suitable for android, linux only13:57
ruslan_chrome os is not suitable13:57
ogra_orik, ctrl-alt+t14:01
ogra_that will open a terminal14:01
ogra_orik, did you see my last comment ?14:05
ogra_<ogra_> orik, ctrl-alt+t14:06
ogra_<ogra_> that will open a terminal14:06
ogra_no need to go back to cros14:06
orikeven without gnome or anything?14:06
ogra_well, unity and compiz are running even though teher is nothing displayed14:06
orikall I get is a mouse and then the top right is connected to wifi14:06
ogra_so your key combo will still be respected14:06
orikI hope they are14:06
orikokay, let me swap back into ubuntu14:06
ogra_your GLES setup doesnt seem to work at all though, thats why you only get the desktop14:07
orikI was getting lots of uh14:07
orikcannot find locals14:07
orikdurring the upgrade to 13.0414:07
ogra_fix that ;)14:07
ogra_ /etc/default/locale has the defaults ... set it there and then run locale-gen for the respective locale14:07
orikjust got out of ubuntu14:15
orikso, crlt-alt-t14:15
orikdid nothing14:15
orikI also noticed that the animation for Wifi Connected has no transpancy or blur,14:16
orikand when mashing buttons I pressed crlt-alt-f2 or something that got me into a terminal14:16
oriknautilus is also went poof from upgrading to 13.0414:16
kulvemake_ext4fs seems to make my /home/username directory owned by root, is there a way to prevent that?14:17
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ogra_kulve, how would it do that if you dont run the app as root ?15:36
achiangssweeny: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-nexus7/+bug/1070760 for you15:38
ubot2Launchpad bug 1070760 in ubuntu-nexus7 "1st time running onboard with default theme is painfully slow" [Medium,Confirmed]15:38
ssweenyachiang, ack15:38
kulveogra_: I did run it as root15:39
ogra_well, don't then ;)15:39
kulvehmm.. I thought I got errors when running as normal user, but I tried to reproduce and now it succeeds.. So thanks, I'll try to flash that :)15:42
kulveno, I just made a mistake now. Ofc it will fail when not run as root as there are directories in a rootfs that are not readable by the normal user15:43
kulveso it must be run as root15:43
kulveI am creating an image of a full blown rootfs directory15:43
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shPikachuhi ppl.i downloaded ubuntu 12.04 image using the quickstart guide in omappedia16:52
shPikachuhttp://omappedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Pre-built_Binaries_Guide16:52
shPikachuto my pandaboard ES.it seems to boot, but there is no image on the DVI-D port16:52
shPikachuin the serial console i got OK  Starting kernel ...  Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel.16:52
shPikachui accidentally pressed print scr key , and when i checked the SD there was print screen of ubuntu installation. So i guess the problem is my display. Im using the dvi-d port16:52
shPikachubtw. im using a pandaboard16:52
ogra-cb_did you try the other port yet ?16:52
shPikachui dont have any device that uses hdmi16:53
shPikachumy monitor is just dvi-d16:53
ogra-cb_doesnt matter16:54
ogra-cb_try the other port16:54
shPikachuok16:54
shPikachuit worked16:55
shPikachui feel stupid16:55
shPikachuxD16:55
ogra-cb_dvi is just a subset of hdmi, both ports function the same wrt graphics (hdmi just adds some lockdown capabilities and sound)16:55
shPikachuthanks16:57
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