[00:35] <wookey> doko: is that the multiarch patch finally in upstream?
[00:35] <doko> wookey, just x86
[00:36] <wookey> hmm, it's arch-specific?
[00:37] <doko> sure
[00:45] <wookey> doko: gcc-4.7 needs http://gcc.gnu.org/viewcvs?view=revision&revision=192504 in order to build gcrypt. It's not in 4.7.2-4 where the patch is taken from a few days earlier
[00:45] <wookey> Do you want to update the aarch64 patch generally (I expect there are other ICE fixes)
[00:46] <wookey> Or shall I file a bug with just that fix in a patch?
[00:46] <doko> wookey, please check raring-proposed
[00:46] <wookey> ah right
[00:46] <doko> and yes, I think I'll just use the linaro branch for debian too
[00:46] <wookey> I think that makes sense at this stage
[00:46] <doko> makes my life easier
[00:47] <wookey> probably makes everyone's life easier
[01:03] <wookey> doko: OK. yes fix is in 4.7.2-5ubuntu7 from raring-proposed
[01:04] <wookey> I'll file a debian bug to track it until it's fixed there
[01:04] <doko> cool. please could could you prepare aarch64 cross packages for raring based on hrw's armhf cross packages?
[01:04] <doko> nahh
[01:06] <wookey> yes. I should do that. But I want to build a toolchain for Debian first so we at least have something there before I get called off 'distro work'
[01:07] <wookey> I think hrw plans to upload an arm64-cross-toolchain-base before he escapes at the end of the month so we should get an automagic build in raring
[01:10] <doko_> wookey, now changed in the vcs
[07:51] <Guest94180> oh yes
[08:29] <dholbach> good morning
[08:36] <elfy> morning dholbach
[10:46] <ruslan_> hello! Can anybody help me with Lucid 10.04 LTS for freescale?
[10:49] <hrw> ruslan_: can you elaborate?
[10:51] <hrw> chromebook works fine as mobile terminal - waiting at car service while they change tires in my car
[10:52] <xranby> ruslan_: which board are you using? the babbage, the quickstart ?
[10:53] <ruslan_> quickstart
[10:53] <xranby> ruslan_: do you have 10.04 running?
[10:53] <ruslan_> yes
[10:53] <xranby> is it working?
[10:53] <ruslan_> yes
[10:54] <xranby> ok, can you specify what you need help with?
[10:56] <ruslan_> I needed to get working USB-serial and 3G USB-modem, I downloaded git kernel version from freescale  and added such support, but..
[10:56] <xranby> ruslan_: USB serial is most likely already included
[10:57] <xranby> ruslan_: 3G USB-modem can be tricky because if you update the kernel then you will loose GPU hardware acceleration
[10:57] <xranby> ruslan_: freescale have not been able to release the sourcecode for the GPU driver
[10:58] <xranby> ruslan_: the GPU is an araneo created originally by BitBoys and AMD
[10:58] <ruslan_> I downloaded kernel source from FREESCALE GIt
[10:58] <xranby> ruslan_: so Freescale themself do not own the sourcecode for the GPU
[10:58] <xranby> and thus it is not included in the Freescale git
[10:59] <xranby> and this servely limits out ability to update the kernel for the board
[11:00] <ruslan_> but graphics works well and demo videos too. I used the simular to existed kernel version 2.6.35.3, so existed version was 2.6.35.3-xxxx
[11:01] <xranby> ruslan_: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/medfield-krait-smartphone-mobile-soc,3117-7.html
[11:02] <orik> do you guys know of anything better than Gnash for Flash support on Arm?
[11:02] <xranby> ruslan_: is your 3G USB-modem supported by this 2.6.35.3 kernel?
[11:02] <xranby> orik: no,    you may experiment by switching renderer in gnash
[11:03] <orik> interesting... okay :)
[11:03] <hrw> ruslan_: so check does kernel see your modem first
[11:05] <orik> xranby: I thought this might also work as a solution :P http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/11/how-to-run-chromeos-in-ubuntu
[11:05] <hrw> orik: you can do same with arm one
[11:05] <hrw> orik: or similar at least
[11:06] <orik> I really wouldn't mind if someone brought Aura out of the sandbox
[11:06] <orik> It grew on me fast
[11:07] <ruslan_> I tryed several models: huavei e1550, huawei e620 and Simcom2516E, all of them are defined by the system and they are in the list of ttyUSB devices, so NetworkManager suggests to me edit connection. I created it, tryed to connect, but network manager drops the connection with message:"You disconnected from GSM network"''
[11:08] <orik> ruslan_: What device do you have?
[11:09] <hrw> I do not have experience with usb modems other then cellphones (which just works)
[11:09] <ruslan_> All mentioned above, but it had better to get work with Simcom 2615e
[11:14] <orik> would uh; sacrificing graphical support in order to gain networking be an option?
[11:14] <orik> :P
[11:15] <ruslan_> no I need to work graphics too
[11:18] <ruslan_> I don't know how to let any usb modem to establish the connection to the network
[11:19] <xranby> ruslan_: have you specified your providers APN?
[11:19] <ruslan_> yes
[11:19] <ruslan_> APN, username,password too
[11:20] <ruslan_> NM-applet drops the connection immediately when i try to connect
[11:23] <xranby> ruslan_: you may try use http://www.sakis3g.org/     to help setup the modem
[11:23] <orik_> oh man
[11:23] <orik_> xranby I had just found that
[11:23] <orik_> from archbang forums xD
[11:24] <ruslan_> I visited there, but it is not clear how to use it
[11:24] <xranby> its a one file script
[11:25] <orik_> http://wiki.sakis3g.org/wiki/index.php?title=Sakis3G_installation; http://wiki.sakis3g.org/wiki/index.php?title=Sakis3G_UI
[11:25] <orik_> do you feel comfortable around the command line?
[11:25] <ruslan_> orik_, ok
[11:26] <ruslan_> ok, orik_, I do
[11:28] <orik_> ahh okay
[11:29] <orik_> so basically, just plug in the modem
[11:29] <orik_> run the script
[11:29] <orik_> wait for it to figure things out and ask you things
[11:29] <orik_> if that doesnt work we can try troubleshooting with Sakis3g
[11:30] <ruslan_> orik_,what version of the script is suitable for armv7?
[11:32] <orik_> either All architects - Binary free version or All architects - Binary free version's source
[11:32] <xranby> ruslan_: you can use the armv4t & armv5t version   its compatible with the 10.04 LTS system armel
[11:33] <orik_> but you should really ask xranby or someone else about building on your arm device; sometime's I've had trouble building arm packages on my pi-
[11:33] <orik_> disregard; use armv4t/5t
[11:37] <orik_> p.s. if it segfaults you might need Usb-ModemSwitch
[11:38] <ruslan_> i have usb-modeswitch. I downloaded version for arm4, unpacked pacckage  and run, but nothing happend
[11:39] <orik_> how long has it been since you ran?
[11:39] <orik_> did you chmod it?
[11:40] <ruslan_> i forgot about interractive option)
[11:46] <orik_> anything?
[11:49] <ruslan_> i get failed to coonect message
[11:49] <orik_> ._.
[11:54] <ruslan_> does sakis3g use wvdial?
[12:05] <ruslan_> i even don't know what to do, all modems are defined by sakis3g but noone can connect to the network, i always get message that "failed to connect"
[12:06] <orik> netsplit :/
[12:06] <ruslan_> if sakis3g uses wvdial the reason is clear
[12:08] <ruslan_> there is such command "netsplit :/"
[12:08] <ruslan_> there is no such command "netsplit :/"
[12:08] <orik> Hahahaha
[12:08] <orik> you cheer me up ruslan
[12:09] <orik> I disconnected for a moment
[12:09] <orik> is what I meant to say
[12:09] <ruslan_> ubuntu terminal dives me such info
[12:11] <orik> hrw: is this what I'm supposed to do with your with your tarball? http://www.x.org/wiki/CompileXserverManually
[12:12] <hrw> orik: use https://launchpad.net/~hrw/+archive/my-own-packages ppa
[12:13] <orik> It relies on 1.13.0
[12:13] <orik> can I update to that without bricking my system? :P
[12:14] <hrw> orik: as long as you have raring it will work
[12:14] <orik> hrw: Okay, so last night I installed ubuntu three times. The first time I got the Plymouth issue didn't know what to do with it
[12:15] <orik> the second time I got to 12.10 but I couldnt launch unity and had yet to install another interface
[12:15] <orik> if I just like, install openbox-session or something
[12:15] <orik> then get to 13.04, then apply the patch
[12:15] <orik> that should all work I hope ;_;
[12:16] <hrw> orik: do you read what is written on that channel in last days?
[12:17] <hrw> orik: ogra already gave solution for plymouth
[12:17] <hrw> and I do not care about unity - I use xfce
[12:17] <orik> yeah I ended up fixing plymouth
[12:17] <orik> I don't care too much for unity either; I like Openbox and tint2
[12:18] <orik> okay, I think I can make this happen
[12:18] <orik> I think I asked this yesterday, but I'll ask again. What's the best way to get from 12.04 to 13.04?
[12:20] <hrw> orik: scroll -24h and read
[12:21] <ruslan_> orik, may the problem be connected with networkmanager/modemmanager or policykit for them?
[12:27] <orik> O: I'm not too sure
[12:30] <orik> hrw: I figured out how to change my sources from precise to raring; silly me. Thank's for your help.
[12:37] <hrw> ogra_: armsoc uploaded into raring
[12:38] <ogra-cb_> yay, thanks
[12:38] <ogra-cb_> hrw, how anout a kernel, do we know where the source is ?
[12:38] <ogra-cb_> *about
[12:39] <hrw> ogra-cb_: sure
[12:40] <ogra-cb_> so someone should package it i guess
[12:40] <hrw> http://git.chromium.org/gitweb/?p=chromiumos/third_party/kernel.git;a=summary iirc
[12:40] <hrw> ogra-cb_: I heard that you already did that
[12:41] <ogra-cb_> lol
[12:41] <ogra-cb_> liars
[12:41] <ogra-cb_> dont belive them
[12:42] <ogra-cb_> once i understood the bootloader i will probably do it
[12:42] <suihkulokki> s/package it/mainline it/ :P
[12:42] <ogra-cb_> nah, i dont touch kwernel code apart from rolling packages
[12:42] <ogra-cb_> thats up to someone else
[12:45] <hrw> ogra-cb_: you need vboot stuff: http://git.chromium.org/gitweb/?p=chromiumos/platform/vboot_reference.git;a=summary
[12:45] <ogra-cb_> right, still i want to dig into the bootloasder and fully understand how to replace it etc
[12:45] <ogra-cb_> so we could possibly have ubuntu images ;)
[12:45] <ogra-cb_> plain ones
[12:45] <hrw> ;)
[12:45] <orik> some days I just wish everyone would use bios
[12:45] <ogra-cb_> eek
[12:45]  * ogra-cb_ is so happy we are not boud to such crap on arm
[12:46] <hrw> orik: and we will have to wait 10s on each boot?
[12:46] <ogra-cb_> heh, if only
[12:47] <ogra-cb_> often it is so much more
[12:48] <hrw> when I got rid of Award bios on alix.1c in favour of coreboot it booted to getty in shorter time then bios itself took
[12:48] <ogra-cb_> hehe, yeah
[12:48] <hrw> and this was not optimal build as I had coreboot->seabios->grub->linux
[12:48]  * ogra-cb_ wouldnt mind having grub on arm thouhg
[12:48] <ogra-cb_> but a BIOS ?!? nah, please dont
[12:48] <hrw> on my desktop it is sick. bios -> sata controller rom finding devices -> grub
[12:48] <orik> I've always sorta lived in uh
[12:48] <hrw> and I disabled one controller
[12:48] <orik> tech poverty
[12:48] <orik> but uh; Bios seems, to me at least
[12:49] <orik> better than UEFI
[12:49] <hrw> orik: you can get arm board boot in 1-2s
[12:49] <orik> coreboot sounds interesting though
[12:49] <hrw> orik: from power on to getty or gdm
[12:49] <orik> O:
[12:49] <hrw> there are tricks for it ;)
[12:50] <ogra-cb_> well, i would say 5 sec for gdm/lightdm
[12:50] <ogra-cb_> bringing up X has some penalty
[12:50] <ogra-cb_> anyway, back to other stuff
[12:51] <orik> So I swapped all mentions of precise with raring; and now I'm dist-upgrading... if I run your .deb before I reboot, can I skip the whole "Unity 3D is not supported" thing?
[12:54] <ruslan_> Is anybody here who can help with modem or somebody who knows anybody which can help?
[13:41] <ogra-cb_> hrw, so looking at the ram consumption on my chromebook after 1.5 days uptime, i see the irqbalance daemon eat 25% of my ram, do you see the same ?
[13:41] <kulve> ruslan_: generelly is better to ask the actual question instead of something vague
[13:41] <hrw> ogra-cb_: I do not run irqbalance
[13:42] <ogra-cb_> i wonder if we miss kernel features here
[13:42] <ogra-cb_> hrw, well, ubuntu does by default
[13:42] <hrw> ogra-cb_: I started with linaro-alip image so I do not have many of 'ubuntu has it' probably
[13:43] <hrw> ogra-cb_: I have ubuntu-minimal installed but rather no other ubuntu-*
[13:43] <ogra-cb_> ah, it is in -standard
[13:44] <ogra-cb_> an i think it is used by default on all ubuntu SMP installs
[13:46] <ogra-cb_> k, setting ONESHOT=1 will not keep it running after it balanced the IRQ allocation once
[13:46] <ogra-cb_> way better
[13:49] <ogra-cb_> heh, seems we're not the only ones with BT issues on the nexus
[13:49] <ogra-cb_> http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39633
[13:50] <ruslan_> The problem is: i have running tis device on this distro. According to my project i have to let work on it 3g modem, that doesn't suppoty by stock kerenl. I recompiled the kernel to support it. And now I see the devices as modems in my system, but networkmanager, doesn't establish connection when i create it: NM-applet fails with the mistake:"failed to connect to GSM network"
[13:54] <ruslan_> may be anybody knows where i can get the distro that fully makes device Freescale iMx53 Quick Start Board workable
[13:55] <orik> so I managed to log into 13.04,
[13:55] <ruslan_> standard distro is not a good idea
[13:55] <orik> and I have no desktop or window manager O:
[13:55] <orik> can't open a terminal so I gotta mount /dev/mmcblk0 from chrome and fix that
[13:57] <ruslan_> no, my company develops software not suitable for android, linux only
[13:57] <ruslan_> chrome os is not suitable
[14:01] <ogra_> orik, ctrl-alt+t
[14:01] <ogra_> that will open a terminal
[14:05] <ogra_> orik, did you see my last comment ?
 orik, ctrl-alt+t
 that will open a terminal
[14:06] <ogra_> no need to go back to cros
[14:06] <orik> even without gnome or anything?
[14:06] <ogra_> well, unity and compiz are running even though teher is nothing displayed
[14:06] <orik> all I get is a mouse and then the top right is connected to wifi
[14:06] <ogra_> so your key combo will still be respected
[14:06] <orik> I hope they are
[14:06] <orik> okay, let me swap back into ubuntu
[14:07] <ogra_> your GLES setup doesnt seem to work at all though, thats why you only get the desktop
[14:07] <orik> I was getting lots of uh
[14:07] <orik> cannot find locals
[14:07] <orik> durring the upgrade to 13.04
[14:07] <ogra_> fix that ;)
[14:07] <ogra_>  /etc/default/locale has the defaults ... set it there and then run locale-gen for the respective locale
[14:15] <orik> just got out of ubuntu
[14:15] <orik> so, crlt-alt-t
[14:15] <orik> did nothing
[14:16] <orik> I also noticed that the animation for Wifi Connected has no transpancy or blur,
[14:16] <orik> and when mashing buttons I pressed crlt-alt-f2 or something that got me into a terminal
[14:16] <orik> nautilus is also went poof from upgrading to 13.04
[14:17] <kulve> make_ext4fs seems to make my /home/username directory owned by root, is there a way to prevent that?
[15:36] <ogra_> kulve, how would it do that if you dont run the app as root ?
[15:38] <achiang> ssweeny: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-nexus7/+bug/1070760 for you
[15:38] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1070760 in ubuntu-nexus7 "1st time running onboard with default theme is painfully slow" [Medium,Confirmed]
[15:38] <ssweeny> achiang, ack
[15:39] <kulve> ogra_: I did run it as root
[15:39] <ogra_> well, don't then ;)
[15:42] <kulve> hmm.. I thought I got errors when running as normal user, but I tried to reproduce and now it succeeds.. So thanks, I'll try to flash that :)
[15:43] <kulve> no, I just made a mistake now. Ofc it will fail when not run as root as there are directories in a rootfs that are not readable by the normal user
[15:43] <kulve> so it must be run as root
[15:43] <kulve> I am creating an image of a full blown rootfs directory
[16:52] <shPikachu> hi ppl.i downloaded ubuntu 12.04 image using the quickstart guide in omappedia
[16:52] <shPikachu> http://omappedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Pre-built_Binaries_Guide
[16:52] <shPikachu> to my pandaboard ES.it seems to boot, but there is no image on the DVI-D port
[16:52] <shPikachu> in the serial console i got OK  Starting kernel ...  Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel.
[16:52] <shPikachu> i accidentally pressed print scr key , and when i checked the SD there was print screen of ubuntu installation. So i guess the problem is my display. Im using the dvi-d port
[16:52] <shPikachu> btw. im using a pandaboard
[16:52] <ogra-cb_> did you try the other port yet ?
[16:53] <shPikachu> i dont have any device that uses hdmi
[16:53] <shPikachu> my monitor is just dvi-d
[16:54] <ogra-cb_> doesnt matter
[16:54] <ogra-cb_> try the other port
[16:54] <shPikachu> ok
[16:55] <shPikachu> it worked
[16:55] <shPikachu> i feel stupid
[16:55] <shPikachu> xD
[16:55] <ogra-cb_> dvi is just a subset of hdmi, both ports function the same wrt graphics (hdmi just adds some lockdown capabilities and sound)
[16:57] <shPikachu> thanks
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[22:17]  * infinity giggles.
[22:18] <davidm> flightscope, you can't use private messages unless you join freenode (I think)
[22:18] <davidm> infinity, is that correct?
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[22:19] <davidm> Ah OK was unsure
[22:19] <flightscope> I am rusty on IRC.... its been a long time
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[22:21] <flightscope> We are going to use VAR-SOM-OM44 that uses TI OMAP4460 it seems
[22:33] <davidm> Nice