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Tsubakihello, I think I might have found a security issue01:32
psusiwhat was the bzr version of clean?01:34
Tsubaki?01:34
psusigit clean == bzr what?01:34
TsubakiI do not follow01:34
psusiclean the working directory of unknown files01:34
Tsubakiok?01:35
psusiwhat was the bzr command for that?01:35
psusioops, meant to ask that in motu, wrong channel01:35
Tsubakino clue01:35
Tsubakilol01:35
MachinistaHi, attempting first triage activity:  this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1079056 looks to be a significant feature request imo.  Opinions?10:48
ubot2Launchpad bug 1079056 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity does not detect Windows 8" [Undecided,New]10:48
xnoxMachinista: it's a bug in os-prober and there are patches in debian to detect EFI systems.10:49
MachinistaOk, thanks.10:50
Machinista1079056 would appear to be a duplicate of '#978028 os-prober fails to recognize Windows 8'11:05
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MachinistaHi, if a bug is marked 'fix released' is this the end of the work-flow or is there some verification/close event that comes after this?15:20
mitya57_Machinista, verification is performed only for stable updates and they are marked fix released after that15:28
TheLordOfTimeMachinista, "Fix Released" means Fix Released.  After its "released" that bug's "done" so to speak15:29
Machinistamitya57, TheLordOfTime thanks.  So a new bug opened for same issue (now fixed released) would be a regression rather than a duplicate?15:31
TheLordOfTimeit could be15:31
* TheLordOfTime rarely works with regressions, though15:31
* TheLordOfTime should read up on "regressions" ":P15:32
TheLordOfTimeMachinista, did that ever work previously?15:33
TheLordOfTime(still assuming LP Bug 1079056 is the topic)15:33
ubot2Launchpad bug 1079056 in os-prober (Ubuntu) "ubiquity does not detect Windows 8" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107905615:33
MachinistaTheLordOfTime, yes, still on that topic.15:33
TheLordOfTimeMachinista, did that ever work previously?15:34
TheLordOfTimeafter 978028 was fixed, of course.15:34
MachinistaTheLordOfTime, I've seen a fix event, but no confirmation that it was actually fixed, just a comment after the fix that 12.04 also has this problem.15:35
TheLordOfTimeif it was SRU'd then someone confirmed the fix...15:35
xnoxconsidering that windows 8 was released on October 26 it has little chances of working =)))))15:35
MachinistaAnd now also repported against 12.10.  So, was it ever fixed/working?  :)15:36
TheLordOfTimeapparently for Oneiric, but...15:36
MachinistaAnyway, as to triage.... should it be tagged as a regression do you think15:37
TheLordOfTimei'm trying to reach the stgraber, who marked it fixed released, to get background on it15:37
Machinistakk15:37
TheLordOfTimehiya stgraber15:38
stgraberhey15:38
TheLordOfTimeso, Bug 1078056 was marked as a dupe of Bug 978028 apparently, which you handled15:39
ubot2Launchpad bug 978028 in os-prober (Ubuntu) "os-prober fails to recognize Windows 8" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/97802815:39
TheLordOfTimewas the "fix Released" for 978028 ever verified, or was it assumed?15:39
TheLordOfTime(Precise was in dev i think at the time)15:39
stgraberit was verified with the consumer preview of win815:39
TheLordOfTimebut not been checked since win8's commercial release?15:39
TheLordOfTimebecause Machinista here is saying there's a regression since then15:40
stgrabercorrect. I don't have win8 so can't check (not that I'm really doing any installer work lately)15:40
TheLordOfTimeah, thanks, just trying to gather background :P  i'm assuming this is a regression, then, no clue which regression tag (or just 'regression') is needed.15:41
* TheLordOfTime doesn't usually ahndle regressions :PP15:41
TheLordOfTimebleh stupid keyboard15:41
TheLordOfTimemy keyboard should be labeled a regression... regression from those that work >.>15:41
stgraberwell, what's the regression? win8 final not being detected isn't a regression as it quite likely never was15:42
TheLordOfTimeLP Bug 1078056 has details15:42
stgraberbug 107805615:42
TheLordOfTimebut the bug bot ain't reporting it here because its already been called15:42
TheLordOfTime<ubot2> Launchpad bug 1079056 in os-prober (Ubuntu) "ubiquity does not detect Windows 8" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107905615:43
ubot2Launchpad bug 1079056 in os-prober (Ubuntu) "ubiquity does not detect Windows 8" [Undecided,New]15:43
TheLordOfTimeoh so NOW you work15:43
* TheLordOfTime kicks ubot215:43
xnoxBug 115:43
xnox..15:43
xnoxbug 115:43
ubot2Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115:43
TheLordOfTimeso the bugbot is breaking now?15:43
TheLordOfTimeHOW DARE IT15:43
xnoxstgraber: was it verified in uefi or bios?15:44
stgraberright, so still not a regression, I don't believe os-prober ever detected win8 on that machine15:44
stgraberxnox: bios15:44
stgrabermy guess is that os-prober simply doesn't support detecting Windows on UEFI (or at least win8 on uefi) or win8 changed something in the magic value for the final release15:45
xnoxstgraber: so I don't believe we have support to os-probe other uefi installs....15:45
xnoxthere are patches about it on debian bts but I have not poked them.15:45
stgraberin either case, doesn't match the definition of regression which is "something that used to work with an earlier version of the package and stopped working in a later version"15:45
TheLordOfTimesee, this is why release people should lurk here more :p15:46
stgraberxnox: I did a quick check and we're in sync with Debian on os-prober (+ a small delta) so if they implemented uefi code, it's not been released yet15:46
TheLordOfTimethey know information on "regressions"15:46
TheLordOfTimei don't :P15:46
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MachinistaOk, interesting conversation.  Seems that 1079056 should be left in new state.15:48
TheLordOfTimestgraber, so this bug is already existing in Debian as a bug that should be fixed?15:49
TheLordOfTimeif so it should be linked to the LP15:52
stgraberTheLordOfTime: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=68792115:52
ubot2Debian bug 687921 in os-prober "Make os-prober to support efi loaders" [Normal,Open]15:52
* TheLordOfTime subscribes15:53
MachinistaSounds liek a wishlist item then, not a bug. Someone want to do the honours?15:57
TheLordOfTimei could if LP wasnt timing out for me15:58
* TheLordOfTime is getting network-side timeouts on his end15:58
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TheLordOfTimestgraber, thanks for hopping over here to help :)16:08
stgrabernp16:10
MachinistaTheLordOfTime, stgraber and thanks to you both for helping me triage my 1st bug :)16:16
Machinista..should've chosen an earier one/16:16
TheLordOfTime:P16:17
TheLordOfTimewell, everyone starts somewhere :P16:17
TheLordOfTimeme, i didn't even start out in bugs :p16:17
TheLordOfTimeended up there though16:17
TheLordOfTime:P16:17
MachinistaOh, it's the sort of place people...end up?  :p16:18
TheLordOfTimeno, that's just me :p16:18
TheLordOfTimesome people like working with bugs and start there16:18
TheLordOfTimei started out with support in general :P  then started working with the nginx team, started working in bugs, and now i'm working with bugs a ton :P16:19
MachinistaThat's great.  Someone needs to chap.16:20
MachinistaTheLordOfTime out of interest, how does a report get transferred, tagged w/e as wishlist?16:23
TheLordOfTimehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance  |  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status16:24
TheLordOfTimeWishlist is an importance.16:24
TheLordOfTimeTriaged goes with it.16:24
TheLordOfTimeWishlist items, when bugcontrollers are aware of it, get marked as such (usually feature requests)16:25
TheLordOfTimethe Triaged status goes with them usually...16:25
TheLordOfTimehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage16:25
TheLordOfTimethat's the triage guide16:25
TheLordOfTimeit explains most stuff16:25
TheLordOfTimethere's special bugs though, they have slightly different rules16:25
* TheLordOfTime never deals with those16:26
Machinista:)  thanks16:26
TheLordOfTimecertain statuses can only be set by bugcontrol, and importance can only be set by bugcontrol, for bugs within Ubuntu's purview.  certain teams have bugcontrol though, i forget what they are...16:27
* TheLordOfTime smells bacon16:27
TheLordOfTimenow i'm hungry :/16:27
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mspencerWhat is the best mailing list to ask a question about correct way a bug fix should work? The bug is LP #65727518:17
ubot2Launchpad bug 657275 in apport (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-bug should save reports offline automatically rather than giving a cryptic error message" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65727518:17
hggdhmspencer: you can use ubuntu-devel; but pitti already suggested the action, and he is one of the authors of apport/ubuntu-bug18:31
mspencerhggdh: Do you mean the text of the message? My question is about what should be done with the report if the user chooses to save it.18:34
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hggdhmspencer: ah, OK. Then ubuntu-devel is a good place. Or you can go to the #ubuntu-devel channel and directly ask pitti (but not today, he has already left for the day, Europe TZ, I think UTC+1|2)18:36
mspencerWhat would be better?18:38
hggdheither, I think. Pinging him directly has the potential to get a faster answer (tomorrow). Emailing ubuntu-devel will get more views, OTOH. If you ping him, make sure to add context (like pitti: png re. bug 657275)18:40
ubot2Launchpad bug 657275 in apport (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-bug should save reports offline automatically rather than giving a cryptic error message" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65727518:40
hggdhbah18:40
mspencerhggdh: Okay, thanks for your help!18:47
hggdhyw18:49
mspencerI've reported a bug that turned out to be a duplicate of a bug that has been fixed. Do I need to do anything to the bug I reported to close it or something?18:59
hggdhmspencer: if it is set as  a dup, no, you do not need to do anything else19:00
hggdh(duplicates are automagically disqualified)19:01
mspencerThe bug is #1078895. Someone replied to me when I posted the bug and said it was a dup, but I don't think anything has been done to my bug report.19:02
mspencerLP #107889519:03
ubot2Launchpad bug 1078895 in openshot (Ubuntu) "Importing an image sequence messes up GUI" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107889519:03
hggdhyes, this is not an official dup yet.19:04
mspencerAm I as the reporter responsible for marking this as a dup?19:05
hggdhmspencer: the other bug was fixed in a (to precise) future version, it seems19:05
mspencerIt looks like this is a dup of LP #50557819:06
ubot2Launchpad bug 505578 in OpenShot Video Editor "Icons etc. disappearing" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50557819:06
hggdhif you can confirm it is a dup, you can go ahead and mark if as so19:06
hggdhmspencer: to find out if, and what, Ubuntu versions carry this corrected openshot you can use rmadison19:07
hggdhon it I seem that Quantal (and Raring) are running 1.4.3, so the fix should already be there19:08
hggdhmspencer: rmadison is in the devscripts package, if you are interested19:08
mspencerWhy do I need to know what versions carry the corrected version? Just if I wanted to use the current version?19:10
hggdhmspencer: well, you might want to -- say -- run quantal, and check on it19:11
hggdhyou are *not* required to, of course19:11
mspencerhggdh: So I should run quantal before I mark it as a duplicate?19:12
mspencerTo make sure that my problem is fixed?19:12
hggdhmspencer: this would be ideal19:15
mspencerhggdh: thanks!19:17
hggdhmspencer: you are extremely welcome. Thank YOU for helping19:18
mspencerI have 12.10 installed in another partition and 13.04 in vm for bug fixing. Which should I test openshot in?19:19
hggdh13.04 would be OK, it is running the same version as Quantal19:20
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