| xnox | cjwatson: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-fastpath-install | 01:01 |
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| xnox | interesting new blueprint. | 01:01 |
| cjwatson | Yeah, I know about it | 01:02 |
| xnox | ack =) | 01:02 |
| smartboyhw | Hi any wubi developer's here? | 11:36 |
| xnox | sure. | 11:44 |
| xnox | smartboyhw: what's up? | 11:44 |
| smartboyhw | xnox, we want to add Ubuntu Studio to Wubi | 11:44 |
| xnox | smartboyhw: ok. | 11:45 |
| xnox | smartboyhw: that needs correct links to how/where your images are called. | 11:45 |
| smartboyhw | xnox, just wondering what should I write in the isolist.ini. Should I use the 12.10 metalinks or the 13.04 links | 11:45 |
| xnox | smartboyhw: well, currently wubi is targetting 12.10 & we didn't update the links for the 13.04. | 11:46 |
| smartboyhw | xnox, so the 12.10 links then | 11:46 |
| xnox | smartboyhw: for now yeah, and then we will update all of them to 13.04 in bulk. | 11:46 |
| smartboyhw | xnox, same for the debian/changelog? | 11:47 |
| xnox | smartboyhw: what do you mean for the debian/changelog? $ dch -i and keep it UNRELEASED. | 11:47 |
| smartboyhw | xnox, I mean the version number in debian/changelog. Is it that I should use 13.04? | 11:48 |
| xnox | smartboyhw: don't worry about debian/changelog, it's a bit out-of-date and we need to fix it up =)))) | 11:48 |
| smartboyhw | =)))))0 | 11:48 |
| smartboyhw | xnox, is it that we must have lupin-support package in our images in order to install Ubuntu Studio on Wubi? | 11:51 |
| smartboyhw | From Bug 1070682 | 11:51 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1070682 in Ubuntu Studio "wubi and ubuntu studio" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1070682 | 11:51 |
| xnox | smartboyhw: sounds about right, have you seeded it already? | 11:53 |
| smartboyhw | xnox, that is the problem . No | 11:53 |
| smartboyhw | Let me find the guys in my team to add it | 11:53 |
| smartboyhw | xnox, told them to add...Just wait till it seeds to ubuntustudio-meta | 11:55 |
| smartboyhw | xnox, hmm I now got the code in https://code.launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/ubuntu/raring/wubi/bug-1070682 but I can't see how to propose merge proposals | 11:59 |
| xnox | smartboyhw: huh.... wubi predates package branches. base your changes on lp:wubi & push to lp:~/wubi/bug-1070682 and propose into lp:wubi. | 12:00 |
| xnox | smartboyhw: ubuntu archive does not build windows binaries yet.... | 12:00 |
| smartboyhw | xnox, so I do like lp:~smartboyhw/wubi/bug-1070682 right? | 12:00 |
| xnox | smartboyhw: you have just created wubi package in ubuntu =((((( because of that branch.... | 12:01 |
| smartboyhw | xnox, oops | 12:01 |
| smartboyhw | xnox, immediate delete | 12:01 |
| xnox | smartboyhw: in the future make sure you push back branches to the same project you got them from...... | 12:01 |
| smartboyhw | Phew got it now | 12:02 |
| ogra-cb_ | iirc using push :parent actually makes suggestions for branch names if you cant push due to missing credentials | 12:02 |
| ogra-cb_ | that should give a proper "to-merge" branch name | 12:03 |
| smartboyhw | Got it now xnox https://code.launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/wubi/bug-1070682/+merge/134446 | 12:03 |
| cjwatson | It doesn't need to go in ubuntustudio-meta | 12:05 |
| cjwatson | The seed it should probably be in is not one that generates a metapackage | 12:05 |
| cjwatson | (Kaj did it right) | 12:06 |
| smartboyhw | cjwatson, yeah | 12:07 |
| smartboyhw | cjwatson, sorry on the edubuntu typo | 12:18 |
| smartboyhw | fixing | 12:18 |
| smartboyhw | cjwatson, resubmitted proposal | 12:22 |
| smartboyhw | https://code.launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/wubi/bug-1070682/+merge/134453 | 12:23 |
| cjwatson | FWIW you should never resubmit proposals | 12:45 |
| cjwatson | At least not for minor corrections like this | 12:45 |
| cjwatson | The way you use the system is that you simply commit a fix and push it | 12:45 |
| cjwatson | Resubmitting is awkward and overcomplicated and basically just for the situation where you proposed against the wrong branch | 12:45 |
| mpt | cjwatson, hi, is bug 220961 that Ubiquity never checks for enough disk space, or that it normally checks but is sometimes mistaken? | 12:47 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 220961 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[MASTER] ubiquity crashes instead of notifying the user of not enough disk space" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220961 | 12:47 |
| mpt | I'm just trying to work out whether it needs a design for the error message. | 12:47 |
| cjwatson | smartboyhw: At the risk of blowing my own trumpet, see https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/refactor-cron-germinate/+merge/84624 for an example; if you scroll down you can see review comments nicely interleaved with revisions fixing them | 12:48 |
| cjwatson | mpt: It normally checks but is (probably inevitably) sometimes mistaken. The bug is that it falls over in varying different kinds of heaps rather than dying gracefully. | 12:48 |
| xnox | mpt: there are conditions/code-paths in ubiquity which allow you to proceed to installation and later it will trip over itself that there is not enough disk space. | 12:48 |
| mpt | ok, thanks | 12:49 |
| xnox | cjwatson: the classic is Laney's "typical install": 8GB disk + 8GB RAM in a VM, with swap taking over most of the space and / being the minimal size of ~800MB (whatever hardcoded in partman-auto recipe as minimal size) | 12:49 |
| xnox | which falls flat on it's face. | 12:50 |
| cjwatson | Yeah, we have separate bugs for lots of the special cases of this kind of thing | 12:50 |
| cjwatson | The "ridiculous amounts of swap" case is one | 12:50 |
| xnox | cjwatson: interesting this blueprint got superseeded: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-default-swap-disk-size-calculation | 12:51 |
| cjwatson | *shrug* I lose track | 12:51 |
| xnox | not sure what happened there.... | 12:51 |
| cjwatson | But that's the sort of thing that's stupid as a blueprint anyway | 12:51 |
| cjwatson | It's just a bug, albeit a complicated one | 12:51 |
| xnox | yeah.... blueprints are funny. | 12:51 |
| mpt | cjwatson, have you considered using RecoverableError for that? Then you could pick off the causes in order of frequency | 12:51 |
| cjwatson | No | 12:51 |
| mpt | Blueprints are bug reports with delusions of grandeur | 12:51 |
| cjwatson | Because I've only spent a fairly minimal amount of time on ubiquity at all since errors.u.c et al were created, and that really only in support of other project | 12:52 |
| cjwatson | s | 12:52 |
| mpt | fair enough | 12:52 |
| mpt | I should have addressed that to xnox :-) | 12:52 |
| cjwatson | There's a point to blueprints when we need complex design across multiple pieces of software, but they do get massively overused | 12:52 |
| cjwatson | That said, it should only be a recoverable error if it's actually recoverable; half the point of the bug is that it isn't | 12:52 |
| xnox | mpt: I like that definition =) | 12:52 |
| cjwatson | (Except by restarting the installation from scratch, which I don't think counts) | 12:53 |
| mpt | cjwatson, that might be reading a little too much into the name ... Recoverable in that sense only means "doesn't crash". | 12:54 |
| cjwatson | Maybe the name is wrong? :-) | 12:54 |
| mpt | maybe. | 12:54 |
| cjwatson | I'm reading the dictionary words | 12:54 |
| mpt | (I didn't choose it, therefore it must be, right?) | 12:54 |
| smartboyhw | cjwatson, so you are just not going to merge the fix since I (stupidly) resubmitted the proposal? | 14:53 |
| cjwatson | smartboyhw: Where did I say that? | 15:10 |
| cjwatson | smartboyhw: I'm not merging it since it's my day off today :-) | 15:10 |
| cjwatson | smartboyhw: I was just recommending that you use an approach that's both easier and better in future | 15:11 |
| smartboyhw | cjwatson, ah OK:P | 15:13 |
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