bdmurray | I verified the fix for bug 1076186 - maybe it can be fast tracked? | 00:26 |
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ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1076186 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Quantal) "not possible to upgrade to raring" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1076186 | 00:26 |
infinity | bdmurray: Looking. | 00:44 |
infinity | bdmurray: What breaks without those dh_ fixes (and how did we not notice that in the previous uploads?) | 00:47 |
infinity | bdmurray: Oh, I'm guessing all but the _clean one were no-ops, and no one notices when clean fails? :P | 00:48 |
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infinity | apw: So much for resetting the build number on the move to -1? :) | 01:40 |
infinity | cjwatson: So, uhm. I'm guessing britney has no magic in place to match the nbs report's clever handling of d-i-images? | 01:50 |
cjwatson | No, not as yet | 01:51 |
infinity | This could prove irksome. | 01:51 |
* infinity wonders why the module list only changed on ppc... | 01:51 | |
cjwatson | Well, different source now | 01:54 |
infinity | Yes, I mean, I wonder why they gratuitously changed from master. :P | 01:54 |
cjwatson | Yeah, can't help you there | 01:55 |
infinity | https://github.com/benmcollins/ubuntu-raring-powerpc/commit/e3447de62300abec9634e145db45b14a2f23268e | 01:59 |
infinity | Hrm. | 01:59 |
infinity | Was there no pcmcia on powerbooks? | 01:59 |
infinity | There totally was. :/ | 02:00 |
doko | at least my 12" doesn't have one | 02:00 |
infinity | A quick google for "pcmcia powerbook" shows a slot on several of the G3 and G4 models. | 02:01 |
cjwatson | I had PCMCIA on my PowerBook | 02:01 |
cjwatson | Well, CardBus | 02:01 |
cjwatson | I think it was CardBus. I forget all the terms now ... | 02:02 |
infinity | Kinda curious about the removal of serial-modules.udeb too, but I'm not sure what was actually in it. | 02:03 |
ev | can someone please reject that txstatsd and tastypie upload? | 11:02 |
ev | I put the wrong option in -f, sorry | 11:02 |
ev | err rather I didn't put in the ppa | 11:02 |
davmor2 | ev hmmm tasty pie | 11:04 |
ev | it's not delicious, I assure you | 11:05 |
davmor2 | ev noooooooooooo the pie can't lie I already found out the cake was you can't steal the pie too | 11:06 |
xnox | after tastypie, you can always $ apt-get install guilt =))) but it's only a suggests relationship. | 11:06 |
ev | :) | 11:06 |
xnox | !info guilt | 11:06 |
ubot2 | 'maverick' is not a valid distribution: | 11:06 |
* xnox goes to #ubuntu-irc for a second. | 11:06 | |
xnox | !info guilt | 11:07 |
ubot2 | 'maverick' is not a valid distribution: | 11:07 |
infinity | ev: I see txstatsd, where's tastypie hiding? | 11:07 |
infinity | Oh, there. | 11:08 |
xnox | ubottu> guilt (source: guilt): quilt for git; similar to Mercurial queues. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.35-1 (quantal), package size 56 kB, installed size 145 kB | 11:08 |
ev | thanks infinity | 11:08 |
infinity | NP. Always happy to reject your uploads. | 11:09 |
infinity | A++, would reject again. | 11:09 |
ogra-cb_ | infinity, ... nexus7 ? | 11:09 |
infinity | ogra-cb_: Sure, I can reject that too, if you like. | 11:09 |
ogra-cb_ | :P | 11:09 |
infinity | Let me nap first. Ping me with some violence in ~5h. | 11:10 |
ogra-cb_ | ok | 11:10 |
infinity | I got sidetracked with glibc most of yesterday, sorry. :/ | 11:10 |
ogra-cb_ | well, no new builder yet, so it is still not auper urgent | 11:10 |
ogra-cb_ | *super | 11:10 |
ogra-cb_ | but be prepared that i start whining once there is a builder (tomorrow according to IS) | 11:11 |
ogra-cb_ | :) | 11:11 |
infinity | Heh. I'm prepared for whining. ;) | 11:11 |
infinity | Have you already got all the cdimage/live* bits in place and tested locally? | 11:12 |
ogra-cb_ | well, mostly | 11:12 |
ogra-cb_ | i@m at a point where i would like to have real builds to fine tune, generally they should work | 11:13 |
ogra-cb_ | and i havent done any work on the publishing stuff in cdimage yet, but i want to have img files for that | 11:13 |
infinity | Ahh, it's leveraging the ac100 tarball bits? Handy. | 11:13 |
ogra-cb_ | right | 11:13 |
infinity | Let the hacks live on! | 11:13 |
ogra-cb_ | heh | 11:14 |
ogra-cb_ | xnox wants us to distribute a combined tarball image instead of two files, so that will still need some fiddling in debian-cd and cdimage | 11:15 |
infinity | Instead of bootimg/img, you mean? | 11:15 |
ogra-cb_ | right | 11:15 |
infinity | Is that doable? | 11:15 |
ogra-cb_ | and having usb-creator unpack it | 11:15 |
xnox | ogra-cb_: correction at uds we agreed to provide combined tarball (ev, xnox and ogra are all share blame here ;-) ) | 11:16 |
infinity | Oh. But that means people without usb-creator will have an extra manual unpack step. | 11:16 |
ogra-cb_ | tar xzvf ubuntu-desktop.tar.gz *.bootimg *.img | 11:16 |
ogra-cb_ | err | 11:16 |
ogra-cb_ | czvf | 11:16 |
infinity | I suppose that's not world-ending. | 11:16 |
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ogra-cb_ | infinity, right, but only one download | 11:16 |
infinity | Yeah, fair enough. | 11:16 |
ogra-cb_ | and its harder to download two non matching files that way | 11:16 |
infinity | Might I suggest zip instead of tar.gz? | 11:16 |
ogra-cb_ | sure | 11:17 |
ogra-cb_ | i would even prefer a format that cdimage doesnt know about yet | 11:17 |
xnox | infinity: are zip's rsyncable / zsyncable? | 11:17 |
ogra-cb_ | instead of having to extend an existing one | 11:17 |
* xnox doesn't feel like re downloading full nexus7 images every day....... | 11:18 | |
infinity | xnox: Oh, that I'm not sure of. But easily researchable/testable. I was mostly thinking if someone wanted to write up a quick "how to do this from Windows" doc, the first step being "download some weird third-party archive manager" is a bit unfriendly. | 11:18 |
ogra-cb_ | tar.gz is currently handled as "root filesystem archive" | 11:18 |
ogra-cb_ | having to hack that upp to actually know it is not will be a bit painful | 11:18 |
knome | when's status.u.c updated with more blueprints/topics? :) | 11:18 |
xnox | infinity: ogra-cb_: what is that fastboots "update tarball thingy"? can it only have the boot & userdata without recovery? | 11:18 |
ogra-cb_ | xnox, i think that refers to an update.zip which we explicitly avoided | 11:19 |
xnox | is that zip? cause it would be nice to be able to point Mac/Windows users at the AndroidSDK tools. | 11:19 |
xnox | and say, use those. | 11:19 |
infinity | xnox: I see some claims that zip is pretty rsync friendly. | 11:19 |
ogra-cb_ | gzip definitely has an option for rsync | 11:20 |
ogra-cb_ | --rsyncable or so | 11:20 |
infinity | gzip != zip | 11:20 |
ogra-cb_ | oh, indeed | 11:20 |
xnox | knome: it autoupdates itself a few times a day. but the blueprints should be accepted for the raring series to show up on the status tracker. | 11:21 |
infinity | Ah-ha. | 11:22 |
knome | xnox, ok. who can do that? | 11:22 |
infinity | For maximum rsyncability, just use "zip -0", since the contents are already compressed anyway. | 11:22 |
ogra-cb_ | knome, the approver :) | 11:22 |
infinity | Then you're just getting an uncompressed archive, not unlike a tar, but more cross-platform friendly. | 11:22 |
ogra-cb_ | yeah | 11:22 |
knome | ogra-cb_, no. i can only propose for raring, even if i am the approver | 11:22 |
xnox | infinity: sounds good. | 11:22 |
knome | ogra-cb_, if that's a bug, pretty please give me more rights to approve for raring :) | 11:23 |
xnox | ogra-cb_: i think you need special extra magic powers =)))) | 11:23 |
knome | imo flavor leads should have that | 11:23 |
ogra-cb_ | knome, lol, what makes you think i can ? | 11:23 |
ogra-cb_ | ++ | 11:23 |
ogra-cb_ | fully agreed | 11:23 |
knome | ogra-cb_, no idea. doesn't hurt to knock on all the doors. | 11:23 |
knome | :) | 11:23 |
infinity | ogra-cb_: Or "zip --compression-method store" if you prefer your command line options to be self-documenting (-0 isn't exactly intuitive). | 11:23 |
ogra-cb_ | i guess you might need to ask in #launchpad | 11:23 |
cjwatson | The organisation of the Ubuntu project isn't #launchpad's business | 11:24 |
cjwatson | Ask the tech board list | 11:24 |
ogra-cb_ | infinity, k, i'll use that in the debian-cd post-boot stuff | 11:24 |
knome | cjwatson, cheers. do you have any idea if that's feasible though? | 11:24 |
cjwatson | knome: It's technically possible, but since "flavour leads should all be drivers, even those who weren't track leads at UDS" isn't something that's been articulated as a general policy before, we'd want to talk about it | 11:26 |
infinity | xnox: Anyhow, should you be curious, it looks like zip's storage structure is very rsyncable, even when using deflate (ie: compression) instead of store (none), so learned something new today. | 11:27 |
xnox | infinity: \0/ awesome. | 11:27 |
knome | cjwatson, okay | 11:27 |
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Riddell | am I doing something wrong in removing this package? http://paste.kde.org/607310/ | 14:24 |
ScottK | You can't remove from the release pocket post-release that way. | 14:26 |
cjwatson | Riddell: There's a set of known timeouts affecting LP at the moment. I suggest deferring removals until a later day. | 14:26 |
cjwatson | Though ScottK is right too. | 14:26 |
cjwatson | Even if you'd got past the timeout it would (hopefully) have refused on the grounds that that pocket is immutable. | 14:26 |
* ScottK doesn't know what the process is for that. | 14:26 | |
cjwatson | Erk, or possibly not; I don't see anything clear in the code to forbid it | 14:27 |
cjwatson | So please don't try | 14:27 |
cjwatson | At any rate the change would never be published | 14:27 |
cjwatson | You need to upload a new version that either fixes the problems or renders the package useless. | 14:27 |
cjwatson | You should think about as hard about the latter as you might expect ... | 14:28 |
Riddell | ug, that's new(ish) I've removed packages from released versions before | 14:29 |
xnox | Riddell: in the devel release. not post-release. | 14:30 |
xnox | also why? | 14:30 |
cjwatson | Riddell: No, it's not new at all. | 14:30 |
cjwatson | Riddell: Perhaps you only thought you had removed them, or perhaps you removed from a post-release pocket. | 14:31 |
cjwatson | It has *never* been permitted (except perhaps accidentally, but definitely not by policy) to remove from the release pocket. | 14:31 |
Riddell | there's no security fix for owncloud other than "upgrade to the latest" and a backport isn't possible (I counted about 15 other packages needing a backport before I gave up) | 14:31 |
xnox | you can remove from -proposed | 14:31 |
cjwatson | xnox: Which is useless. Can I handle this? | 14:34 |
cjwatson | Riddell: The only release pocket whose Release file is dated after release is hardy. | 14:34 |
cjwatson | So it's possible that a mistake was made there (I vaguely remember something, although I don't think it was a removal - could be wrong) | 14:35 |
cjwatson | xnox: (owncloud isn't *in* oneiric-proposed, so nothing to remove, and removals of things that don't exist in a pocket don't work that way) | 14:36 |
cjwatson | There are no publishing records dated from 2012-04-25 onwards in hardy, so I think that timestamp is misleading. | 14:37 |
xnox | cjwatson: sorry, wasn't clear. and indeed it's not in oneiric-proposed, so moot. | 14:37 |
cjwatson | Riddell: The only thing that can be done in that case is to replace the package in -proposed with one that refuses to do anything. | 14:38 |
Riddell | ug | 14:40 |
cjwatson | After all nothing else would close the security hole for oneiric users anyway | 14:40 |
cjwatson | Anyway, it's been this way since warty | 14:42 |
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TheLordOfTime | stgraber, around-ish? | 15:37 |
stgraber | TheLordOfTime: yep, what's up? | 15:37 |
TheLordOfTime | got time to jump into -bugs for a second? | 15:38 |
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bdmurray | why does rmadison still return natty info? | 16:23 |
stgraber | bdmurray: my guess would be that the archive mirror on lillypilly is still mirroring natty (as it still exists on archive.u.c) | 16:25 |
ScottK | It's usually somewhat after EOL that things get moved to old-releases. | 16:30 |
bdmurray | Its almost been a month! ;-) | 16:30 |
TheLordOfTime | heh | 16:32 |
cjwatson | bdmurray: because I hadn't deleted it from the config. fixed | 17:04 |
bdmurray | cjwatson: thanks | 17:06 |
rtg | can I get the Nexus7 packages NEWed for Raring ? linux-nexus7, linux-meta-nexus7, and linux-firmware-nexus7 | 18:12 |
infinity | rtg: Working on it nowish. | 18:36 |
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infinity | stgraber: Has queuebot given up on !raring? | 20:19 |
stgraber | infinity: hmm, shouldn't have, what did it miss? | 20:21 |
infinity | stgraber: I know bdmurray accepted some SRUs a while back, since I see them building (eglibc in lucid and oneiric). | 20:22 |
infinity | stgraber: And looking through backscroll, all I see is a lot of raring, so I'm making assumptions. :P | 20:22 |
infinity | stgraber: In fact, backscroll doesn't show it catching those uploads either. | 20:23 |
infinity | Same with gccgo-4.7/precise, and likely a bunch of others. | 20:24 |
stgraber | hmm, right, last one for !raring was 9 hours ago | 20:24 |
stgraber | so apparently it received an unknown or corrupted status for some uploads in LP, sadly the code to catch that and raise an exception was buggy and raising itself an exception... I fixed it now so if it happens again I should be able to figure out what's going on | 20:27 |
stgraber | (forgot to rotate the log, was getting pretty big...) | 20:28 |
* stgraber needs to get queuebot to reload its config without restarting entirely... | 20:31 | |
stgraber | oops, wrong debug value, that's the "let's dump all the queues at startup time" option and I don't quite want that... | 20:33 |
stgraber | sorry for the spam, everything should be back to normal now... | 20:35 |
kenvandine | can someone please reject friends from the quantal-proposed NEW queue? that was an accidental dput :) | 20:42 |
infinity | kenvandine: Done. | 20:42 |
kenvandine | thanks! | 20:42 |
slangasek | kenvandine: we are always happy to reject friends | 20:53 |
kenvandine | slangasek, lol | 20:53 |
micahg | stgraber: ^^ have fun :) | 21:55 |
stgraber | micahg: yay! I'll check that we don't have any bad bugs with lxc on quantal and if all looks good, will request a backport for it too | 21:56 |
doko | infinity what was the reason for the boost-mpi reject for quantal? | 23:30 |
infinity | doko: I didn't reject it, but at a glance, I'd say because it has absolutely no reference in the changelog as to why it was uploaded? | 23:35 |
doko | infinity, because it always has to match the exact version of boost | 23:35 |
doko | main/universe split | 23:36 |
infinity | doko: Yes, IRC isn't a changelog. It should have a task in the bug, and get closed. | 23:36 |
infinity | In fact, it DOES have a task on the SRU bug. All the more reason the upload was wrong to not reference it. | 23:36 |
xnox | doko: I think ScottK pinged the sponsoree about rejecting it and asking to reupload with a changelog bug #. | 23:37 |
infinity | doko: If you want to just fix it up and reupload, I'll review the pair of them. | 23:37 |
doko | pair? wasn't the other one accepted? | 23:37 |
infinity | No, it's sitting in the queue. | 23:38 |
xnox | infinity: the person who created the package didn't know about mpi package in the first place, and I opened the bug task with a comment. My fault at not following up and demanding for the second package to close the bug #. | 23:38 |
doko | doing it now ... | 23:38 |
infinity | xnox: Not your fault at all that someone SRUed without a reference. | 23:38 |
infinity | doko: Anyhow, modulo the bug closure, they both look sane to me. So, if the new one's the same diff, I'll let 'em both in ASAP. | 23:39 |
doko | infinity, ^^^ | 23:51 |
* xnox lost the game | 23:52 |
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