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arossDOTmeI am trying to make a vocal sample as loud as possible but without distortion. Please tell me if there is a nice automatized way.01:04
AzelphurarossDOTme: try audacity01:09
arossDOTmeI have01:09
Azelphuraudacity does it, what's the problem?01:09
arossDOTmeBeen using the eq01:09
arossDOTmeand nom and gain01:10
arossDOTmebut err not mad much progess01:10
arossDOTmemad =made01:10
arossDOTmeaplify does didly squit01:11
Azelphurwhy not effect > amplify?01:11
Azelphurworks for me01:11
arossDOTmedidn't do much01:11
arossDOTmetry applify and nom?01:11
Azelphurit's always worked fine for me *shrug*01:12
arossDOTmehow much do you apm by? -30 or + 20?01:13
AzelphurarossDOTme: the max it would allow01:28
ali1234arossDOTme: apply dynamic range compression01:29
arossDOTmeI guess there is just more to it for this sample. The problem is it doesn't sound right. I guess I need to manual adjust sections Ilike I have been for the last 2ish hours01:29
ali1234effects > compressor01:30
arossDOTmeok01:30
arossDOTmeit does a bit but I still don't get that loudness I want. I guess I need to individually adjust the eq and then wack up the gain?...01:38
AlanBellmorning07:26
MartijnVdSFibre-men, fibre-men07:27
MartijnVdS07:27
* MartijnVdS hears the drills07:27
AlanBellwoot07:43
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diploMorning all08:09
MartijnVdSAh coffee break is over.. drilling started again08:22
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MartijnVdSlunch? At 9:23?08:23
AlanBellthat isn't lunch time. Possibly "second breakfast"08:55
MartijnVdSfibre people are one floor down08:57
MartijnVdS"we'll be with you in a few minutes"08:57
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daubersMorning09:02
MartijnVdS\o daubster09:02
daubersHow did the meeting go?09:02
daubersGood then!09:05
Laneymmmmmm meat09:17
* theopensourcerer went to see Skyfall instead of the Ubuntu UK meeting.09:18
AlanBellhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/LastMeeting daubers09:18
AlanBellhow was skyfall?09:18
theopensourcerer:-D09:18
theopensourcererGreat. really good. Enjoyed it a lot.09:19
DavieyI found it disappointing  :(09:19
theopensourcererI do like the new "rawness" that Craig and the new producers have brought to the series.09:19
theopensourcererThe old ones were a bit too tongue in cheek for my liking.09:20
DavieyThere didn't seem to be a strong underlying story.  Little romance, and the action scenes were less than exciting.09:20
theopensourcerersay what?09:21
DavieyThere didn't seem to be a strong underlying story.  Little romance, and the action scenes were less than exciting.09:21
selinuxiumMorning all  o/09:21
theopensourcererDid you watch it on an iPod?09:21
Davieytheopensourcerer: Nah, watched in in Denmark :)09:21
theopensourcererIn Danish?09:21
selinuxiumBacon...09:21
theopensourcererShut up selinuxium - I am on my 500cal day today.09:22
theopensourcererNo food till hammersmith, er home time09:22
selinuxium<runs and hides... sandwich in hand>09:22
Davieyselinuxium: I'm sorry to break this to you, but the concept of Danish bacon is a lie.09:22
DavieyI was mortified.09:22
selinuxiumO_O09:22
selinuxiumBut...09:23
DavieyI was looking forward to a proper Danish sarnie...  The breakfast bacon was American style.09:23
DavieyI asked the waitress "WTF.. where is the Danish style bacon?"09:23
Daviey"Uh, you big big bacon?  Oh you English, only you think we eat that."09:23
DavieyI cried.09:23
theopensourcererThe Danes do not have the best reputation for animal husbandry... Danish bacon is approximately 50% water as far as I can tell.09:23
* theopensourcerer buys happy pig meat from the local butchers09:24
selinuxiumThe chicken is tumbled in a concoction of liquids to double the size of the breasts... Another Danish export... Bleurgh!09:24
* selinuxium also prefers the butcher..09:25
DavieyThe big is probably overjoyed he was killed in a happy environment09:25
DavieyGetting your throat sloshed in an unhappy environment, hung upside down to let the bloody squirty out, is the real pits!09:25
selinuxiumI am sure the slaughter house would do a better job than me...09:25
* Daviey can't type today!09:26
ali1234who suggested The Turf for happy hour oxford?09:26
selinuxiumDaviey is hitting the keyboard with a pound of sausages...09:26
* daubers catches up with meeting stuff09:27
Davieyselinuxium: Good point, oi should probably put some clothes on.09:27
ali1234whoever it was, did you know that pub has a MUD named after it, created by the students who used to drink there?09:27
daubers:( at the planet going away... but kind of understandable09:27
selinuxiumDaviey, that did make me laugh out loud. :)09:27
Davieydaubers: It really doesn't add any value IMO.09:27
daubersDaviey: Agreed... it would just have been nice if it could have added value09:28
Davieyselinuxium: :-)09:28
daubersIn it's current state I agree there is no value09:28
Davieydaubers: I think, with Google+ and the like.. people are blogging less now.09:28
DavieyI haven't blogged in ages :(09:28
daubersDaviey: Yeah :(09:28
daubersDon't we have an Ubuntu-UK G+ page?09:29
Davieywe do... also not getting love09:29
daubersYeah09:30
daubersIs there only one admin on that page? I did notice you can add multiple admins to a page now09:30
Davieypass.09:30
DavieyAlanBell: ^ ?09:31
AlanBelloh, sure, I can add more admins09:33
daubersJust wondering if that would help it get more love09:34
theopensourcererdid anyone get a voting card or anything for the PCC elections?09:36
Laneyoh, it's 'lections isn't it?09:36
Laneyyeah09:36
dauberstheopensourcerer: Yes09:36
theopensourcererOh :-(09:36
* Laney will go down at lunch09:36
Laneycall the council and see if you were registered09:36
theopensourcererITS NOT FAIR!09:36
ali1234is anyone actually going to vote?09:37
daubersali1234: Probably09:39
ali1234hmm... if you mix vimto and pineapple juice... it tastes horrible09:42
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selinuxiumtheopensourcerer, I did not get a voting card..09:51
selinuxiumAlanBell, Where can I see the minutes from the meeting?09:51
AlanBellhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/LastMeeting09:52
AlanBelltheopensourcerer: I got a voting card, you can use mine!09:52
bashrcis anyone voting today?09:53
selinuxiumthanks  AlanBell   :)09:53
AlanBellvote early, vote often09:53
theopensourcererThanks AlanBell but I am not that bothered. I tend to try and not get involved with the Police when possible ;-)09:53
bashrcThe choice is dire.  There isn't even an independent candidate09:53
theopensourcererI believe we do have an indy09:53
bashrcYou're lucky09:54
theopensourcererThe missus mentioned it the other day.09:54
danfishcan't vote here - we got Boris09:54
AlanBellif only I had known earlier it was a £70,000 salary for doing not very much09:54
AlanBellin fact I bet someone could win on a platform of doing nothing and staying out of the way of the experts09:55
bashrcyes, and I did think of doing that09:55
AlanBell"vote for me and I will let the police get on with doing their job, they are the experts after all"09:56
danfishAlanBell: the successful candiate has got to comission crime! That will take hours of meeting with gangsters etc ;)09:56
bashrcI could drive arround in expensive cars "appointing officers"09:56
AlanBellI have watched Batman and approve of the Gotham crime strategy09:57
bashrcheh09:57
AlanBelltough on crime, tough on the causes of comicbook baddies09:57
bashrcAll pccs should wear capes09:57
danfishI've had a winning idea - get the person to commission the crimes then tip off the police so they can stop the crime09:57
danfishwin win09:57
AlanBellhit those targets danfish!09:58
bashrcThe main thing that I want to know is which of the candidates use Linux09:58
AlanBelllessons from a medical professional :)09:58
danfishAlanBell: I would go on, but I've hit my target for irc today :)09:59
* AlanBell wonders where davmor2 and co are beering this evening09:59
AlanBelland wonders if danfish is coming out for a pint09:59
danfishAlanBell: would love to, but finishing at 9pm :(10:00
theopensourcererAlanBell: I am not allowed out to play this evening unfortunately.10:05
christelno vote, no beer?10:07
Laneymakes homer something something10:08
AlanBelldaubers: so for the G+ page I can add managers by email10:09
AlanBellso anyone who wants to post to that needs to tell me the email associated with their G+ profile10:09
daubersAlanBell: Probably best to document and broadcast that somewhere10:11
daubersAlanBell: Also, I wasn't volunteering! Just suggesting, I'm not the best person for this as I tend to feel less and less like I belong to the Ubuntu (and even Linux) community these days10:12
AlanBellthats fine, it was a good question anyway10:24
brobostigongood morning everyone.10:31
czajkowskialoha10:36
bashrchello10:36
brobostigonhello czajkowski and bashrc10:37
davmor2 AlanBell: hey dude so any idea about tonight?10:48
selinuxiumhi brobostigon o/10:49
brobostigonhi selinuxium o/10:49
AlanBelldavmor2: czajkowski had some suggestion11:01
AlanBellkind of a german oompah band place or something11:01
davmor2AlanBell: she's just not right in the head  ;)11:01
czajkowskihttp://www.katzenjammers.co.uk/11:02
czajkowskiwhich is close to london bridge for folks11:02
davmor2czajkowski: why you not here so I can pick on you today :P11:02
davmor2czajkowski: I know really11:02
czajkowskione dayb was enoiugh yesterday11:02
czajkowskiyour co worker looked very confused11:02
davmor2czajkowski: tat's his normal look :)11:03
czajkowskior11:03
czajkowskiFounder's Arms, near the Tate, along the thames11:03
davmor2popey: you gonna be there?11:03
popeydavmor2, if the plumber comes and stops water coming out of the kitchen light fittings, yes.11:07
davmor2popey: is the water still pink?11:07
popeyyes11:08
popeyuntil the tank completely drains11:08
bashrcwhy pink?11:09
popeyso we can see where the water came from11:10
popeyfood dye in toilet, pink drips in kitchen, it came from the toilet11:10
bashrcah11:10
gordwouldn't... y'know, it already have a colour?11:12
popey:) no11:14
popeyand the plumber sniffed the water to make sure it wasn't toilet water11:14
popeyit also doesn't smell of radiators11:14
popeynot quite sure where it's coming from11:14
MartijnVdSbut.. you put dye in and now it _is_ toilet water?11:14
gordradiators have a smell?11:17
MartijnVdSradiator water smells HORRIBLE11:17
AlanBellso, tonight then davmor2 and others11:17
gordy'know whats disgusting? the inside of your hot water tank. never drink the hot water11:18
AlanBellhttp://www.katzenjammers.co.uk/index.html comes highly recommended11:18
MartijnVdSyou can smell it when you let air out of them11:18
AlanBellbut will require a reservation, which I can sort out, how many people want to go?11:18
gorddon't let the air out then!11:19
MartijnVdSgord: but then they won't work as well11:19
MartijnVdSah, found a translation "bleeding a radiator"11:20
theopensourcererOdd. This works in Firefox but not Chrome... http://workshop.chromeexperiments.com/stars/11:20
MartijnVdStheopensourcerer: Intel? Chrome disables WebGL on Intel graphics for some reason11:21
MartijnVdStheopensourcerer: chrome://flags to enable it11:21
theopensourcererHuh? Really? OK will try that. Thanks MartijnVdS11:21
czajkowskiAlanBell: o/ hopefully11:22
gordmy radiators work fine and i have never done anything to them, crazy people11:22
theopensourcererOdd - it says WebGL is enabled11:23
davmor2AlanBell: well I'm at the office instead of the sprint, but I can possibly get aq and some other but it might be better to pick a place that doesn't need a reservation unless we know exact numbers11:23
czajkowskidavmor2: it;s large enough anyways11:25
popeygord, our bathroom one doesn't get hot all the way to the top, this is apparently common, so you undo the tap at the top, bleed the air out and the hot water reaches the top, hot toasty radiator11:25
czajkowskibut nice to have one central table11:25
AlanBelldavmor2: well give some people a poke, if we can get a rough number I am sure they won't care if we are one or two out11:28
davmor2AlanBell: a lot of the ones that would come aren't online right now as they are at the sprint I can give you a ping later when I head back there11:30
czajkowskiAlanBell: what time for Kjs so ?11:32
AlanBelldunno really, I am easy11:32
AlanBellI am in Canary Wharf at the moment, might pop to the shops then go there11:33
AlanBellpop to the shops at about 6ish, then go there11:33
czajkowskiI've the CC meeting from 5-6 so will pop down then11:33
davmor2czajkowski: sprint finishes somewhere between 5-6 so I'll want to nip back to the hotel first so about 6:30 at a guess11:38
czajkowskiok11:38
AlanBelldavmor2: czajkowski lets say 19:30 ish to meet there and we can make a reservation for 20:0011:45
czajkowskisure11:46
theopensourcererHmmm - this is a very interesting device... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/15/review_viewsonic_vsd220_aio_smart_display/11:46
davmor2AlanBell: sounds good11:51
christeldavmor2! you monkey11:51
popey"Referring to it as a "22in tablet" is just silly: as Chromebooks have ably demonstrated, just because a computer runs Android doesn't mean it's a toy"11:51
popeywat!11:51
christeli er what11:51
theopensourcererlol11:51
MartijnVdSpopey: chromebooks don't run android though11:51
davmor2christel: why am I a monkey?11:52
theopensourcererMartijnVdS: I think that was popey's general point.11:52
AlanBelltheopensourcerer: openerp touchscreen POS device11:55
AlanBellbit big though11:55
MartijnVdSPiece of.. ? or Point of ..?11:56
AlanBellPoint of Sale11:56
AlanBellscreen of a till11:56
MartijnVdSAlanBell: though the Point of Sale devices I've seen were pieces of .. :)11:56
AlanBellthey have historically been so :)11:57
MartijnVdSUX, what's that :)11:57
AlanBellUser eXperience11:57
AlanBellDesigners can't abbreviate correctly11:57
MartijnVdSAlanBell: I know, but the PoS people don't seem to know any UX people11:57
* MartijnVdS is not being very clear today11:58
AlanBellah11:58
* MartijnVdS puts up some fibre pics12:03
AlanBellkeeps you regular12:36
czajkowskimrevell: you in london ?12:45
mrevellczajkowski, I am!12:45
czajkowskimrevell: coming for drinks later on ?12:45
mrevellczajkowski, I think I've missed something. What drinks?12:45
czajkowskimrevell: we're (this channel) are in london todya and are going for a tipple and a catch up later on if you're about12:45
czajkowskiin Katzajammers near london bridge if you're about12:45
mrevellAh cool. What time?12:45
czajkowskiAlanBell: what time did we agree on ?12:45
AlanBell7:30 for 812:48
Laneyyou cool london folk12:49
Laneywith your trendy ways12:49
christelwhat Laney said12:49
christel;)12:50
* AlanBell will pop out for sushi for lunch now12:50
christelthats not trendy, that's very mid-90s12:51
czajkowskiLaney: you're the hippy!12:51
MartijnVdShipster*13:05
Laneybrb riding my fixie to the vintage shop13:06
* czajkowski suspects Laney is off hunting more power supplies in case he just leaves more apples around :p13:07
davmor2Laney: man if you go there you wanna get a refund on the vintage you purchased it doesn't suite you ;)13:08
MooDoohello all13:39
davmor2MooDoo: Hey dude13:40
MooDoodavmor2: long time no insult ;)13:40
christel./1313:45
MartijnVdS./13?13:45
* christel nods13:45
MartijnVdSbash: ./13: Bestand of map bestaat niet13:45
diploMartijnVdS: All foreign to me :)14:08
MartijnVdSdiplo: "It's all Dutch to me"14:14
christeltoday is messing with my brain14:15
MartijnVdSchristel: how?14:15
christeli ordered two metal + glass lanterns for my patio14:15
christel(for candles)14:15
christelthey arrived on tuesday but one was broken (http://i.imgur.com/yk1M4.jpg)14:16
AlanBellno, 'andles for forks!14:16
christelthe company was very apologetic and said they would send out a replacement straight away14:16
christelthe replacement just arrived14:16
christelhttp://i.imgur.com/EUhzS.jpg14:16
christel...14:16
MartijnVdShahaha :)14:16
AlanBellwell, it isn't broken14:17
christeli have no idea how they expect me to find a decorative use for a giant yellow rechargable torch!14:17
diploI expect that is classed as candle type torch and someone in there storeroom was stupid14:22
czajkowskichristel: picture14:23
christelczajkowski: http://i.imgur.com/yk1M4.jpg (broken lantern) http://i.imgur.com/EUhzS.jpg (replacement)14:27
czajkowskiwow14:28
christellike for like, right? ;)14:32
davmor2christel: exactly the same if you squint to the point that your eyes are closed14:50
AlanBelldavmor2: any update on numbers?14:59
AlanBelldavmor2 AlanBell czajkowski mrevell. Any advance on that?14:59
davmor2AlanBell: still at the office, but I'll try and get down there asap15:00
czajkowskiAlanBell: just book it for 8 people loads of space15:00
AlanBelldown where?15:00
czajkowskiand we can sprawl out15:00
Pendulumchristel: they obviously thought you needed more yellow in your colour scheme15:00
* AlanBell is confused15:00
czajkowskiAlanBell: davmor2 is in the office15:00
czajkowskibut the sprint folks are not in the office and not online15:01
AlanBellindeed15:01
AlanBelloh15:01
czajkowskiso we cant poke them15:01
AlanBellwhut??15:01
AlanBellhmm, ok15:02
davmor2AlanBell: the reason I'm in the office is you keep getting kicked off the AP at the sprint venue and there were a load of new apps that needed pushing through the QA, Apparently the venue isn't preped for 50 people with more than one internet device in a room15:03
AlanBellyeah, I thought the sprint was in the office in a conference room or something15:03
davmor2nope too many people15:04
MartijnVdSlots of places don't cope well with >50 wifi devices15:04
AlanBell50 people with more than one internet device each, and none of them online15:04
AlanBellah well, I will try and book a table for 815:05
davmor2MartijnVdS: indeed we asked for another access point and the venue gave us about a million reasons why they couldn't15:05
MartijnVdSSo it's like conference wifi :)15:06
MartijnVdSwe broke university wifi in Frankfurt this summer with YAPC::EU :)15:07
AlanBellbooked15:07
AlanBelldavmor2: table at 8 for 815:07
davmor2AlanBell: cool15:07
MartijnVdSAlanBell: so whan you're done, you can say you ate at a table for 8 at 8?15:08
AlanBell:)15:09
MartijnVdS(I accept "nein" as an answer :P)15:12
AlanBellmultilingual europunning ftw15:13
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czajkowskiso have we set a time yet?15:17
popey<AlanBell> davmor2: table at 8 for 815:18
czajkowskicool15:19
czajkowskican someone tweet it from the ubuntu uk so we can share some love to it15:19
czajkowskiplease15:19
czajkowskimeans I can go for a nap after work15:19
czajkowskiam knackered15:19
AlanBelldo we have a twitter?15:20
czajkowskiI thoguth we did15:20
czajkowskior am I getting it confused with the UUPc ?15:21
AlanBellconfused15:21
czajkowskiwelcome to my world15:22
AlanBellhttps://twitter.com/alanbell_libsol/status/26909864915646464115:25
AlanBellbut feel free to rephrase15:25
MartijnVdSooh, another mjg59 blog post about EUFI15:36
MartijnVdSUEFI15:36
czajkowskiah miss them15:44
czajkowskiiked it when the bot posted in here to tell me about new posts15:44
AlanBellmight sort out a better bot to do that15:50
czajkowskimaybe it should only pull people that actualy live in the UK as well15:51
gorda local bot for local people15:52
czajkowskiwell I  have no interest about readong about events not happening here tbh, I can read them on planet ubuntu on in my twitter/G+ streams16:02
* popey notes mjg59 doesn't live here :)16:05
popeyand neither do you sometimes :)16:05
MartijnVdSor I16:05
dauberspopey see's dead people16:33
* AlanBell see's apostrophes16:35
MartijnVdSthat hurt's my eye's16:35
* daubers doesn't see much at all these days16:37
MartijnVdSdaubers: oh?16:37
daubersSpeaking of which.....16:39
czajkowskipopey: yes ndeed he doesn't16:43
czajkowskiand here is where I pay my tax so yup I live here :)16:43
czajkowskiI holiday in .ie ;)16:44
MartijnVdSczajkowski: maybe you could do what big companies do, and pay less tax? :)16:44
czajkowskilol16:45
czajkowskiam helping the matter by mving out of London16:45
AlanBellhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Irish_arrangement#Dutch_Sandwich16:47
MartijnVdSAlanBell: yeah, we've been trying to get politicians do to something about that16:47
mgdmczajkowski: where you off to?17:01
czajkowskiAldershot17:01
MartijnVdSAlderaan?17:01
theopensourcererARRGGGHHH!17:01
directhexso, who's experimented with secure boot on real hardware?17:01
theopensourcererFeck no. czajkowski please stay in London.17:01
MartijnVdSdirecthex: mjg59 :)17:01
MartijnVdSdirecthex: and ali1234 maybe?17:01
czajkowskitheopensourcerer: boo you17:02
theopensourcerer:-*17:02
directhexMartijnVdS, i'm feeling adventurous. want to get my x230 booting windows via efi & secure boot & bitlocker, and ubuntu via efi & secure boot & luks17:03
popeyI'd put two drives in17:03
popeyone for windows, one for linux17:03
directhexpopey, two drives into an x230 ultraportable?17:30
popeydirecthex, dunno, i have two in my x22017:30
popeyone 7mm ssd, one mSATA ssd17:30
directhexoh. msata. weirdo!17:31
MartijnVdSmmm sata17:32
popeywfm17:33
popeyalan@deep-thought:~$ df -h | grep sd17:33
popey/dev/sda1            213G  164G   38G  82% /17:33
popey/dev/sdb1            235G  141G   83G  64% /data17:33
brobostigongood hostname, :)17:34
popey:)17:34
neuropopey: while i applaud your ssd pr0n, i am dissapoint you didn't include some tasty nas stats too17:40
neuroneuro@saratoga:~$ df -h | grep cargo17:41
neurocargobay0:/data  5.5T  4.6T  909G  84% /data/cargobays/017:41
neurocargobay1:/data  5.5T  1.8T  3.7T  32% /data/cargobays/117:41
neuroboom17:42
popeyalan@homeserver:~$ btrfs fi df /srv17:59
popeyData, RAID1: total=7.88TB, used=6.24TB17:59
popey"boom"17:59
neuro:)18:00
neuroi priced up swapping the 8 2TB WD greens in my 2 ReadyNAS boxes for WD reds, and replacing the two 1TB USB WD externals that i use for rsnapshot with reds18:01
neuro1100 quid18:01
Adriannomhi. on xubuntu  the spellchecker on libreoffice isn't working at all.  i've tried installing hunspell, wbritish and libreoffice-l10n-en-gb among other things, but nothing is working.  when i try a spellcheck it just says "spellcheck finished"18:02
Adriannomis this a common problem?18:02
neuroshame the trays in the netserver aren't hot swap :(18:02
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czajkowskiso who's going to Kjs?18:36
czajkowskixnox: ?18:37
xnoxhmmm?18:37
xnoxczajkowski: what's Kjs18:37
czajkowskihttp://www.katzenjammers.co.uk/18:37
czajkowskidavmor2: ping18:37
czajkowskiany word on who's coming from sprint land ?18:37
* czajkowski is heading to the pub now 18:39
czajkowskitoodles18:39
directhexremarkably hard to makw win7 install from efi to gpt18:42
directhexfound the right combination of bios config values eventually19:00
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AlanBellhello from czajkowski's Nexus 719:34
popey:)19:49
Laneyis it running ubuntu?20:01
directhexokay, I've given up on bitlocker, it's seemingly impossible to get it to do password-based boot-time passwordery without some kind of active directory craziness20:10
directhexbut still, next step is 12.1020:10
directhexthen I try enabling secure booties20:11
popeyhttp://www.heelsforless.com/images/511-lock.jpg   # secure booties?20:35
directhexWhy does the partition editor in the Ubuntu installer allow me to pick Primary or Logical for new partitions?21:06
dwatkinsdirecthex: did you try truecrypt?21:27
directhexdoesn't mention windows 8, which means the truecrypt boot loader probably can't do uefi secure boot21:30
directhexwhich was part of the adventure21:30
directhexso, more problems with the installer21:31
dwatkinsoh bah, that's not so useful then21:31
directhexyou can't enable LVM and Luks without erasing all partitions21:31
directhexi.e. the installer has only two radio buttons - blat the lot, or manual setup. you can't do lvm in the installer's manual setup21:32
directhexyou can do luks though21:32
xnoxdirecthex: you can ;-) with a lot of hackery.21:32
directhexupshot: i'm using a swap file, not a swap partition21:32
directhexxnox: talking about the installer, not hacking in terminal21:33
directhexoh, windows 7 is a pig to get working via efi21:33
xnoxdirecthex: if there is enough padding around the filesystem, you can create lvm & luks around it and then carefully ask luks to encrypt it. but it's like a surgery with calculating the offsets.21:33
directhexand windows generally is silent on whether it's booted via efi or bios21:33
xnoxdirecthex: ah, yeah, installer just wipes it, unless you have existing LUKS & go into the live session and mount it  / unlock before running the installer.21:34
directhexxnox: I just wanted a luks based install alongside win8. installer did not offer it.21:34
xnoxdirecthex: in UEFI mode? known bug.21:35
xnoxdirecthex: well new feature.21:35
xnoxdirecthex: where did you get win8 from by the way?21:35
directhexinstaller JustWorked with secure boot though. that impressed.21:35
xnox=)))))))))21:35
directhexbought from windows.com, made an installer usb stick21:36
xnoxoh it's general sale now? interesting.21:36
directhexupgrade install from win7. win7 install was harder21:36
directhexhard*est*21:36
directhexwaiting to see all of the secure boot stuff backported to 12.04 point release21:37
directhexthat was a large point of the exercise - forewarning myself on how secure boot will be for users in the future21:40
directhextl;dr: uneventful21:40
AlanBellevening22:17
* AlanBell has been beering with czajkowski and davmor222:18
AlanBellit was fun22:18
AlanBelland sorry about the nexus 7 czajkowski22:18
Azelphurwell, that was pretty cool22:19
AzelphurI just requested a refund on an app that I bought about 6 months ago, and google accepted it22:19
AzelphurIt was a pretty legit request (the app doesn't work, for anyone, and never has done) but still, less than 60 seconds for them to give me a refund \o/22:20
directhexrecure boot & steam beta in the same evening22:21
bittindissing UK and going to Norrland instead =D22:50
ali1234directhex: i've not tried real hardware, only the tiano simulator in qemu23:12
directhexah. i'm a freakin' pioneer!23:12
ali1234directhex: you can read all about it on my website, if you want23:13
ali1234al.robotfuzz.com - in 4 parts23:13
ali1234after that mjg's blog is the best place for the real scoop23:14
ali1234Azelphur: you know how to hack android apks right? can you look at the bbc news app and tell me if it's possible to change the feeds it uses?23:15
Azelphurali1234: nope, I've never done that23:16
ali1234annoyingly it is by far the best RSS reader on android with the only problem being it can only access BBC feeds23:16
AzelphurI know it can be done, but I've never tried to do it23:16
ali1234i thought you did with that NFC thing...23:16
Azelphurali1234: tried pulse? it's rather popualr23:16
Azelphurali1234: nope, someone else did that23:16
ali1234yes, i tried just about every rss in the store today23:17
ali1234they are all rubbish23:17
czajkowskievening23:20
czajkowskijust home23:20
dogmatic69lol23:27
dogmatic69just got a 'chromium has crashed, restart | leave closed'23:27
dogmatic69opted to click the X and continue using it...23:27
ali1234yeah i get that a lot23:29
Nghrm, no popey23:31
czajkowskioh a Ng23:36
Nghi :)23:37
czajkowskihows things with you?23:37
Ngczajkowski: good thanks. you?23:40
czajkowskiyeah not bad working away keeping busy :)23:41

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