[01:04] <arossDOTme> I am trying to make a vocal sample as loud as possible but without distortion. Please tell me if there is a nice automatized way.
[01:09] <Azelphur> arossDOTme: try audacity
[01:09] <arossDOTme> I have
[01:09] <Azelphur> audacity does it, what's the problem?
[01:09] <arossDOTme> Been using the eq
[01:10] <arossDOTme> and nom and gain
[01:10] <arossDOTme> but err not mad much progess
[01:10] <arossDOTme> mad =made
[01:11] <arossDOTme> aplify does didly squit
[01:11] <Azelphur> why not effect > amplify?
[01:11] <Azelphur> works for me
[01:11] <arossDOTme> didn't do much
[01:11] <arossDOTme> try applify and nom?
[01:12] <Azelphur> it's always worked fine for me *shrug*
[01:13] <arossDOTme> how much do you apm by? -30 or + 20?
[01:28] <Azelphur> arossDOTme: the max it would allow
[01:29] <ali1234> arossDOTme: apply dynamic range compression
[01:29] <arossDOTme> I guess there is just more to it for this sample. The problem is it doesn't sound right. I guess I need to manual adjust sections Ilike I have been for the last 2ish hours
[01:30] <ali1234> effects > compressor
[01:30] <arossDOTme> ok
[01:38] <arossDOTme> it does a bit but I still don't get that loudness I want. I guess I need to individually adjust the eq and then wack up the gain?...
[07:26] <AlanBell> morning
[07:27] <MartijnVdS> Fibre-men, fibre-men
[07:27] <MartijnVdS> ♫
[07:27]  * MartijnVdS hears the drills
[07:43] <AlanBell> woot
[08:09] <diplo> Morning all
[08:22] <MartijnVdS> Ah coffee break is over.. drilling started again
[08:23] <MartijnVdS> lunch? At 9:23?
[08:55] <AlanBell> that isn't lunch time. Possibly "second breakfast"
[08:57] <MartijnVdS> fibre people are one floor down
[08:57] <MartijnVdS> "we'll be with you in a few minutes"
[09:02] <daubers> Morning
[09:02] <MartijnVdS> \o daubster
[09:02] <daubers> How did the meeting go?
[09:05] <daubers> Good then!
[09:17] <Laney> mmmmmm meat
[09:18]  * theopensourcerer went to see Skyfall instead of the Ubuntu UK meeting.
[09:18] <AlanBell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/LastMeeting daubers
[09:18] <AlanBell> how was skyfall?
[09:18] <theopensourcerer> :-D
[09:19] <theopensourcerer> Great. really good. Enjoyed it a lot.
[09:19] <Daviey> I found it disappointing  :(
[09:19] <theopensourcerer> I do like the new "rawness" that Craig and the new producers have brought to the series.
[09:20] <theopensourcerer> The old ones were a bit too tongue in cheek for my liking.
[09:20] <Daviey> There didn't seem to be a strong underlying story.  Little romance, and the action scenes were less than exciting.
[09:21] <theopensourcerer> say what?
[09:21] <Daviey> There didn't seem to be a strong underlying story.  Little romance, and the action scenes were less than exciting.
[09:21] <selinuxium> Morning all  o/
[09:21] <theopensourcerer> Did you watch it on an iPod?
[09:21] <Daviey> theopensourcerer: Nah, watched in in Denmark :)
[09:21] <theopensourcerer> In Danish?
[09:21] <selinuxium> Bacon...
[09:22] <theopensourcerer> Shut up selinuxium - I am on my 500cal day today.
[09:22] <theopensourcerer> No food till hammersmith, er home time
[09:22] <selinuxium> <runs and hides... sandwich in hand>
[09:22] <Daviey> selinuxium: I'm sorry to break this to you, but the concept of Danish bacon is a lie.
[09:22] <Daviey> I was mortified.
[09:22] <selinuxium> O_O
[09:23] <selinuxium> But...
[09:23] <Daviey> I was looking forward to a proper Danish sarnie...  The breakfast bacon was American style.
[09:23] <Daviey> I asked the waitress "WTF.. where is the Danish style bacon?"
[09:23] <Daviey> "Uh, you big big bacon?  Oh you English, only you think we eat that."
[09:23] <Daviey> I cried.
[09:23] <theopensourcerer> The Danes do not have the best reputation for animal husbandry... Danish bacon is approximately 50% water as far as I can tell.
[09:24]  * theopensourcerer buys happy pig meat from the local butchers
[09:24] <selinuxium> The chicken is tumbled in a concoction of liquids to double the size of the breasts... Another Danish export... Bleurgh!
[09:25]  * selinuxium also prefers the butcher..
[09:25] <Daviey> The big is probably overjoyed he was killed in a happy environment
[09:25] <Daviey> Getting your throat sloshed in an unhappy environment, hung upside down to let the bloody squirty out, is the real pits!
[09:25] <selinuxium> I am sure the slaughter house would do a better job than me...
[09:26]  * Daviey can't type today!
[09:26] <ali1234> who suggested The Turf for happy hour oxford?
[09:26] <selinuxium> Daviey is hitting the keyboard with a pound of sausages...
[09:27]  * daubers catches up with meeting stuff
[09:27] <Daviey> selinuxium: Good point, oi should probably put some clothes on.
[09:27] <ali1234> whoever it was, did you know that pub has a MUD named after it, created by the students who used to drink there?
[09:27] <daubers> :( at the planet going away... but kind of understandable
[09:27] <selinuxium> Daviey, that did make me laugh out loud. :)
[09:27] <Daviey> daubers: It really doesn't add any value IMO.
[09:28] <daubers> Daviey: Agreed... it would just have been nice if it could have added value
[09:28] <Daviey> selinuxium: :-)
[09:28] <daubers> In it's current state I agree there is no value
[09:28] <Daviey> daubers: I think, with Google+ and the like.. people are blogging less now.
[09:28] <Daviey> I haven't blogged in ages :(
[09:28] <daubers> Daviey: Yeah :(
[09:29] <daubers> Don't we have an Ubuntu-UK G+ page?
[09:29] <Daviey> we do... also not getting love
[09:30] <daubers> Yeah
[09:30] <daubers> Is there only one admin on that page? I did notice you can add multiple admins to a page now
[09:30] <Daviey> pass.
[09:31] <Daviey> AlanBell: ^ ?
[09:33] <AlanBell> oh, sure, I can add more admins
[09:34] <daubers> Just wondering if that would help it get more love
[09:36] <theopensourcerer> did anyone get a voting card or anything for the PCC elections?
[09:36] <Laney> oh, it's 'lections isn't it?
[09:36] <Laney> yeah
[09:36] <daubers> theopensourcerer: Yes
[09:36] <theopensourcerer> Oh :-(
[09:36]  * Laney will go down at lunch
[09:36] <Laney> call the council and see if you were registered
[09:36] <theopensourcerer> ITS NOT FAIR!
[09:37] <ali1234> is anyone actually going to vote?
[09:39] <daubers> ali1234: Probably
[09:42] <ali1234> hmm... if you mix vimto and pineapple juice... it tastes horrible
[09:51] <selinuxium> theopensourcerer, I did not get a voting card..
[09:51] <selinuxium> AlanBell, Where can I see the minutes from the meeting?
[09:52] <AlanBell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/LastMeeting
[09:52] <AlanBell> theopensourcerer: I got a voting card, you can use mine!
[09:53] <bashrc> is anyone voting today?
[09:53] <selinuxium> thanks  AlanBell   :)
[09:53] <AlanBell> vote early, vote often
[09:53] <theopensourcerer> Thanks AlanBell but I am not that bothered. I tend to try and not get involved with the Police when possible ;-)
[09:53] <bashrc> The choice is dire.  There isn't even an independent candidate
[09:53] <theopensourcerer> I believe we do have an indy
[09:54] <bashrc> You're lucky
[09:54] <theopensourcerer> The missus mentioned it the other day.
[09:54] <danfish> can't vote here - we got Boris
[09:54] <AlanBell> if only I had known earlier it was a £70,000 salary for doing not very much
[09:55] <AlanBell> in fact I bet someone could win on a platform of doing nothing and staying out of the way of the experts
[09:55] <bashrc> yes, and I did think of doing that
[09:56] <AlanBell> "vote for me and I will let the police get on with doing their job, they are the experts after all"
[09:56] <danfish> AlanBell: the successful candiate has got to comission crime! That will take hours of meeting with gangsters etc ;)
[09:56] <bashrc> I could drive arround in expensive cars "appointing officers"
[09:57] <AlanBell> I have watched Batman and approve of the Gotham crime strategy
[09:57] <bashrc> heh
[09:57] <AlanBell> tough on crime, tough on the causes of comicbook baddies
[09:57] <bashrc> All pccs should wear capes
[09:57] <danfish> I've had a winning idea - get the person to commission the crimes then tip off the police so they can stop the crime
[09:57] <danfish> win win
[09:58] <AlanBell> hit those targets danfish!
[09:58] <bashrc> The main thing that I want to know is which of the candidates use Linux
[09:58] <AlanBell> lessons from a medical professional :)
[09:59] <danfish> AlanBell: I would go on, but I've hit my target for irc today :)
[09:59]  * AlanBell wonders where davmor2 and co are beering this evening
[09:59] <AlanBell> and wonders if danfish is coming out for a pint
[10:00] <danfish> AlanBell: would love to, but finishing at 9pm :(
[10:05] <theopensourcerer> AlanBell: I am not allowed out to play this evening unfortunately.
[10:07] <christel> no vote, no beer?
[10:08] <Laney> makes homer something something
[10:09] <AlanBell> daubers: so for the G+ page I can add managers by email
[10:09] <AlanBell> so anyone who wants to post to that needs to tell me the email associated with their G+ profile
[10:11] <daubers> AlanBell: Probably best to document and broadcast that somewhere
[10:12] <daubers> AlanBell: Also, I wasn't volunteering! Just suggesting, I'm not the best person for this as I tend to feel less and less like I belong to the Ubuntu (and even Linux) community these days
[10:24] <AlanBell> thats fine, it was a good question anyway
[10:31] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[10:36] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:36] <bashrc> hello
[10:37] <brobostigon> hello czajkowski and bashrc
[10:48] <davmor2>  AlanBell: hey dude so any idea about tonight?
[10:49] <selinuxium> hi brobostigon o/
[10:49] <brobostigon> hi selinuxium o/
[11:01] <AlanBell> davmor2: czajkowski had some suggestion
[11:01] <AlanBell> kind of a german oompah band place or something
[11:01] <davmor2> AlanBell: she's just not right in the head  ;)
[11:02] <czajkowski> http://www.katzenjammers.co.uk/
[11:02] <czajkowski> which is close to london bridge for folks
[11:02] <davmor2> czajkowski: why you not here so I can pick on you today :P
[11:02] <davmor2> czajkowski: I know really
[11:02] <czajkowski> one dayb was enoiugh yesterday
[11:02] <czajkowski> your co worker looked very confused
[11:03] <davmor2> czajkowski: tat's his normal look :)
[11:03] <czajkowski> or
[11:03] <czajkowski> Founder's Arms, near the Tate, along the thames
[11:03] <davmor2> popey: you gonna be there?
[11:07] <popey> davmor2, if the plumber comes and stops water coming out of the kitchen light fittings, yes.
[11:07] <davmor2> popey: is the water still pink?
[11:08] <popey> yes
[11:08] <popey> until the tank completely drains
[11:09] <bashrc> why pink?
[11:10] <popey> so we can see where the water came from
[11:10] <popey> food dye in toilet, pink drips in kitchen, it came from the toilet
[11:10] <bashrc> ah
[11:12] <gord> wouldn't... y'know, it already have a colour?
[11:14] <popey> :) no
[11:14] <popey> and the plumber sniffed the water to make sure it wasn't toilet water
[11:14] <popey> it also doesn't smell of radiators
[11:14] <popey> not quite sure where it's coming from
[11:14] <MartijnVdS> but.. you put dye in and now it _is_ toilet water?
[11:17] <gord> radiators have a smell?
[11:17] <MartijnVdS> radiator water smells HORRIBLE
[11:17] <AlanBell> so, tonight then davmor2 and others
[11:18] <gord> y'know whats disgusting? the inside of your hot water tank. never drink the hot water
[11:18] <AlanBell> http://www.katzenjammers.co.uk/index.html comes highly recommended
[11:18] <MartijnVdS> you can smell it when you let air out of them
[11:18] <AlanBell> but will require a reservation, which I can sort out, how many people want to go?
[11:19] <gord> don't let the air out then!
[11:19] <MartijnVdS> gord: but then they won't work as well
[11:20] <MartijnVdS> ah, found a translation "bleeding a radiator"
[11:20] <theopensourcerer> Odd. This works in Firefox but not Chrome... http://workshop.chromeexperiments.com/stars/
[11:21] <MartijnVdS> theopensourcerer: Intel? Chrome disables WebGL on Intel graphics for some reason
[11:21] <MartijnVdS> theopensourcerer: chrome://flags to enable it
[11:21] <theopensourcerer> Huh? Really? OK will try that. Thanks MartijnVdS
[11:22] <czajkowski> AlanBell: o/ hopefully
[11:22] <gord> my radiators work fine and i have never done anything to them, crazy people
[11:23] <theopensourcerer> Odd - it says WebGL is enabled
[11:23] <davmor2> AlanBell: well I'm at the office instead of the sprint, but I can possibly get aq and some other but it might be better to pick a place that doesn't need a reservation unless we know exact numbers
[11:25] <czajkowski> davmor2: it;s large enough anyways
[11:25] <popey> gord, our bathroom one doesn't get hot all the way to the top, this is apparently common, so you undo the tap at the top, bleed the air out and the hot water reaches the top, hot toasty radiator
[11:25] <czajkowski> but nice to have one central table
[11:28] <AlanBell> davmor2: well give some people a poke, if we can get a rough number I am sure they won't care if we are one or two out
[11:30] <davmor2> AlanBell: a lot of the ones that would come aren't online right now as they are at the sprint I can give you a ping later when I head back there
[11:32] <czajkowski> AlanBell: what time for Kjs so ?
[11:32] <AlanBell> dunno really, I am easy
[11:33] <AlanBell> I am in Canary Wharf at the moment, might pop to the shops then go there
[11:33] <AlanBell> pop to the shops at about 6ish, then go there
[11:33] <czajkowski> I've the CC meeting from 5-6 so will pop down then
[11:38] <davmor2> czajkowski: sprint finishes somewhere between 5-6 so I'll want to nip back to the hotel first so about 6:30 at a guess
[11:38] <czajkowski> ok
[11:45] <AlanBell> davmor2: czajkowski lets say 19:30 ish to meet there and we can make a reservation for 20:00
[11:46] <czajkowski> sure
[11:46] <theopensourcerer> Hmmm - this is a very interesting device... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/15/review_viewsonic_vsd220_aio_smart_display/
[11:51] <davmor2> AlanBell: sounds good
[11:51] <christel> davmor2! you monkey
[11:51] <popey> "Referring to it as a "22in tablet" is just silly: as Chromebooks have ably demonstrated, just because a computer runs Android doesn't mean it's a toy"
[11:51] <popey> wat!
[11:51] <christel> i er what
[11:51] <theopensourcerer> lol
[11:51] <MartijnVdS> popey: chromebooks don't run android though
[11:52] <davmor2> christel: why am I a monkey?
[11:52] <theopensourcerer> MartijnVdS: I think that was popey's general point.
[11:55] <AlanBell> theopensourcerer: openerp touchscreen POS device
[11:55] <AlanBell> bit big though
[11:56] <MartijnVdS> Piece of.. ? or Point of ..?
[11:56] <AlanBell> Point of Sale
[11:56] <AlanBell> screen of a till
[11:56] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: though the Point of Sale devices I've seen were pieces of .. :)
[11:57] <AlanBell> they have historically been so :)
[11:57] <MartijnVdS> UX, what's that :)
[11:57] <AlanBell> User eXperience
[11:57] <AlanBell> Designers can't abbreviate correctly
[11:57] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: I know, but the PoS people don't seem to know any UX people
[11:58]  * MartijnVdS is not being very clear today
[11:58] <AlanBell> ah
[12:03]  * MartijnVdS puts up some fibre pics
[12:36] <AlanBell> keeps you regular
[12:45] <czajkowski> mrevell: you in london ?
[12:45] <mrevell> czajkowski, I am!
[12:45] <czajkowski> mrevell: coming for drinks later on ?
[12:45] <mrevell> czajkowski, I think I've missed something. What drinks?
[12:45] <czajkowski> mrevell: we're (this channel) are in london todya and are going for a tipple and a catch up later on if you're about
[12:45] <czajkowski> in Katzajammers near london bridge if you're about
[12:45] <mrevell> Ah cool. What time?
[12:45] <czajkowski> AlanBell: what time did we agree on ?
[12:48] <AlanBell> 7:30 for 8
[12:49] <Laney> you cool london folk
[12:49] <Laney> with your trendy ways
[12:49] <christel> what Laney said
[12:50] <christel> ;)
[12:50]  * AlanBell will pop out for sushi for lunch now
[12:51] <christel> thats not trendy, that's very mid-90s
[12:51] <czajkowski> Laney: you're the hippy!
[13:05] <MartijnVdS> hipster*
[13:06] <Laney> brb riding my fixie to the vintage shop
[13:07]  * czajkowski suspects Laney is off hunting more power supplies in case he just leaves more apples around :p
[13:08] <davmor2> Laney: man if you go there you wanna get a refund on the vintage you purchased it doesn't suite you ;)
[13:39] <MooDoo> hello all
[13:40] <davmor2> MooDoo: Hey dude
[13:40] <MooDoo> davmor2: long time no insult ;)
[13:45] <christel> ./13
[13:45] <MartijnVdS> ./13?
[13:45]  * christel nods
[13:45] <MartijnVdS> bash: ./13: Bestand of map bestaat niet
[14:08] <diplo> MartijnVdS: All foreign to me :)
[14:14] <MartijnVdS> diplo: "It's all Dutch to me"
[14:15] <christel> today is messing with my brain
[14:15] <MartijnVdS> christel: how?
[14:15] <christel> i ordered two metal + glass lanterns for my patio
[14:15] <christel> (for candles)
[14:16] <christel> they arrived on tuesday but one was broken (http://i.imgur.com/yk1M4.jpg)
[14:16] <AlanBell> no, 'andles for forks!
[14:16] <christel> the company was very apologetic and said they would send out a replacement straight away
[14:16] <christel> the replacement just arrived
[14:16] <christel> http://i.imgur.com/EUhzS.jpg
[14:16] <christel> ...
[14:16] <MartijnVdS> hahaha :)
[14:17] <AlanBell> well, it isn't broken
[14:17] <christel> i have no idea how they expect me to find a decorative use for a giant yellow rechargable torch!
[14:22] <diplo> I expect that is classed as candle type torch and someone in there storeroom was stupid
[14:23] <czajkowski> christel: picture
[14:27] <christel> czajkowski: http://i.imgur.com/yk1M4.jpg (broken lantern) http://i.imgur.com/EUhzS.jpg (replacement)
[14:28] <czajkowski> wow
[14:32] <christel> like for like, right? ;)
[14:50] <davmor2> christel: exactly the same if you squint to the point that your eyes are closed
[14:59] <AlanBell> davmor2: any update on numbers?
[14:59] <AlanBell> davmor2 AlanBell czajkowski mrevell. Any advance on that?
[15:00] <davmor2> AlanBell: still at the office, but I'll try and get down there asap
[15:00] <czajkowski> AlanBell: just book it for 8 people loads of space
[15:00] <AlanBell> down where?
[15:00] <czajkowski> and we can sprawl out
[15:00] <Pendulum> christel: they obviously thought you needed more yellow in your colour scheme
[15:00]  * AlanBell is confused
[15:00] <czajkowski> AlanBell: davmor2 is in the office
[15:01] <czajkowski> but the sprint folks are not in the office and not online
[15:01] <AlanBell> indeed
[15:01] <AlanBell> oh
[15:01] <czajkowski> so we cant poke them
[15:01] <AlanBell> whut??
[15:02] <AlanBell> hmm, ok
[15:03] <davmor2> AlanBell: the reason I'm in the office is you keep getting kicked off the AP at the sprint venue and there were a load of new apps that needed pushing through the QA, Apparently the venue isn't preped for 50 people with more than one internet device in a room
[15:03] <AlanBell> yeah, I thought the sprint was in the office in a conference room or something
[15:04] <davmor2> nope too many people
[15:04] <MartijnVdS> lots of places don't cope well with >50 wifi devices
[15:04] <AlanBell> 50 people with more than one internet device each, and none of them online
[15:05] <AlanBell> ah well, I will try and book a table for 8
[15:05] <davmor2> MartijnVdS: indeed we asked for another access point and the venue gave us about a million reasons why they couldn't
[15:06] <MartijnVdS> So it's like conference wifi :)
[15:07] <MartijnVdS> we broke university wifi in Frankfurt this summer with YAPC::EU :)
[15:07] <AlanBell> booked
[15:07] <AlanBell> davmor2: table at 8 for 8
[15:07] <davmor2> AlanBell: cool
[15:08] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: so whan you're done, you can say you ate at a table for 8 at 8?
[15:09] <AlanBell> :)
[15:12] <MartijnVdS> (I accept "nein" as an answer :P)
[15:13] <AlanBell> multilingual europunning ftw
[15:17] <czajkowski> so have we set a time yet?
 davmor2: table at 8 for 8
[15:19] <czajkowski> cool
[15:19] <czajkowski> can someone tweet it from the ubuntu uk so we can share some love to it
[15:19] <czajkowski> please
[15:19] <czajkowski> means I can go for a nap after work
[15:19] <czajkowski> am knackered
[15:20] <AlanBell> do we have a twitter?
[15:20] <czajkowski> I thoguth we did
[15:21] <czajkowski> or am I getting it confused with the UUPc ?
[15:21] <AlanBell> confused
[15:22] <czajkowski> welcome to my world
[15:25] <AlanBell> https://twitter.com/alanbell_libsol/status/269098649156464641
[15:25] <AlanBell> but feel free to rephrase
[15:36] <MartijnVdS> ooh, another mjg59 blog post about EUFI
[15:36] <MartijnVdS> UEFI
[15:44] <czajkowski> ah miss them
[15:44] <czajkowski> iked it when the bot posted in here to tell me about new posts
[15:50] <AlanBell> might sort out a better bot to do that
[15:51] <czajkowski> maybe it should only pull people that actualy live in the UK as well
[15:52] <gord> a local bot for local people
[16:02] <czajkowski> well I  have no interest about readong about events not happening here tbh, I can read them on planet ubuntu on in my twitter/G+ streams
[16:05]  * popey notes mjg59 doesn't live here :)
[16:05] <popey> and neither do you sometimes :)
[16:05] <MartijnVdS> or I
[16:33] <daubers> popey see's dead people
[16:35]  * AlanBell see's apostrophes
[16:35] <MartijnVdS> that hurt's my eye's
[16:37]  * daubers doesn't see much at all these days
[16:37] <MartijnVdS> daubers: oh?
[16:39] <daubers> Speaking of which.....
[16:43] <czajkowski> popey: yes ndeed he doesn't
[16:43] <czajkowski> and here is where I pay my tax so yup I live here :)
[16:44] <czajkowski> I holiday in .ie ;)
[16:44] <MartijnVdS> czajkowski: maybe you could do what big companies do, and pay less tax? :)
[16:45] <czajkowski> lol
[16:45] <czajkowski> am helping the matter by mving out of London
[16:47] <AlanBell> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Irish_arrangement#Dutch_Sandwich
[16:47] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: yeah, we've been trying to get politicians do to something about that
[17:01] <mgdm> czajkowski: where you off to?
[17:01] <czajkowski> Aldershot
[17:01] <MartijnVdS> Alderaan?
[17:01] <theopensourcerer> ARRGGGHHH!
[17:01] <directhex> so, who's experimented with secure boot on real hardware?
[17:01] <theopensourcerer> Feck no. czajkowski please stay in London.
[17:01] <MartijnVdS> directhex: mjg59 :)
[17:01] <MartijnVdS> directhex: and ali1234 maybe?
[17:02] <czajkowski> theopensourcerer: boo you
[17:02] <theopensourcerer> :-*
[17:03] <directhex> MartijnVdS, i'm feeling adventurous. want to get my x230 booting windows via efi & secure boot & bitlocker, and ubuntu via efi & secure boot & luks
[17:03] <popey> I'd put two drives in
[17:03] <popey> one for windows, one for linux
[17:30] <directhex> popey, two drives into an x230 ultraportable?
[17:30] <popey> directhex, dunno, i have two in my x220
[17:30] <popey> one 7mm ssd, one mSATA ssd
[17:31] <directhex> oh. msata. weirdo!
[17:32] <MartijnVdS> mmm sata
[17:33] <popey> wfm
[17:33] <popey> alan@deep-thought:~$ df -h | grep sd
[17:33] <popey> /dev/sda1            213G  164G   38G  82% /
[17:33] <popey> /dev/sdb1            235G  141G   83G  64% /data
[17:34] <brobostigon> good hostname, :)
[17:34] <popey> :)
[17:40] <neuro> popey: while i applaud your ssd pr0n, i am dissapoint you didn't include some tasty nas stats too
[17:41] <neuro> neuro@saratoga:~$ df -h | grep cargo
[17:41] <neuro> cargobay0:/data  5.5T  4.6T  909G  84% /data/cargobays/0
[17:41] <neuro> cargobay1:/data  5.5T  1.8T  3.7T  32% /data/cargobays/1
[17:42] <neuro> boom
[17:59] <popey> alan@homeserver:~$ btrfs fi df /srv
[17:59] <popey> Data, RAID1: total=7.88TB, used=6.24TB
[17:59] <popey> "boom"
[18:00] <neuro> :)
[18:01] <neuro> i priced up swapping the 8 2TB WD greens in my 2 ReadyNAS boxes for WD reds, and replacing the two 1TB USB WD externals that i use for rsnapshot with reds
[18:01] <neuro> 1100 quid
[18:02] <Adriannom> hi. on xubuntu  the spellchecker on libreoffice isn't working at all.  i've tried installing hunspell, wbritish and libreoffice-l10n-en-gb among other things, but nothing is working.  when i try a spellcheck it just says "spellcheck finished"
[18:02] <Adriannom> is this a common problem?
[18:02] <neuro> shame the trays in the netserver aren't hot swap :(
[18:36] <czajkowski> so who's going to Kjs?
[18:37] <czajkowski> xnox: ?
[18:37] <xnox> hmmm?
[18:37] <xnox> czajkowski: what's Kjs
[18:37] <czajkowski> http://www.katzenjammers.co.uk/
[18:37] <czajkowski> davmor2: ping
[18:37] <czajkowski> any word on who's coming from sprint land ?
[18:39]  * czajkowski is heading to the pub now 
[18:39] <czajkowski> toodles
[18:42] <directhex> remarkably hard to makw win7 install from efi to gpt
[19:00] <directhex> found the right combination of bios config values eventually
[19:34] <AlanBell> hello from czajkowski's Nexus 7
[19:49] <popey> :)
[20:01] <Laney> is it running ubuntu?
[20:10] <directhex> okay, I've given up on bitlocker, it's seemingly impossible to get it to do password-based boot-time passwordery without some kind of active directory craziness
[20:10] <directhex> but still, next step is 12.10
[20:11] <directhex> then I try enabling secure booties
[20:35] <popey> http://www.heelsforless.com/images/511-lock.jpg   # secure booties?
[21:06] <directhex> Why does the partition editor in the Ubuntu installer allow me to pick Primary or Logical for new partitions?
[21:27] <dwatkins> directhex: did you try truecrypt?
[21:30] <directhex> doesn't mention windows 8, which means the truecrypt boot loader probably can't do uefi secure boot
[21:30] <directhex> which was part of the adventure
[21:31] <directhex> so, more problems with the installer
[21:31] <dwatkins> oh bah, that's not so useful then
[21:31] <directhex> you can't enable LVM and Luks without erasing all partitions
[21:32] <directhex> i.e. the installer has only two radio buttons - blat the lot, or manual setup. you can't do lvm in the installer's manual setup
[21:32] <directhex> you can do luks though
[21:32] <xnox> directhex: you can ;-) with a lot of hackery.
[21:32] <directhex> upshot: i'm using a swap file, not a swap partition
[21:33] <directhex> xnox: talking about the installer, not hacking in terminal
[21:33] <directhex> oh, windows 7 is a pig to get working via efi
[21:33] <xnox> directhex: if there is enough padding around the filesystem, you can create lvm & luks around it and then carefully ask luks to encrypt it. but it's like a surgery with calculating the offsets.
[21:33] <directhex> and windows generally is silent on whether it's booted via efi or bios
[21:34] <xnox> directhex: ah, yeah, installer just wipes it, unless you have existing LUKS & go into the live session and mount it  / unlock before running the installer.
[21:34] <directhex> xnox: I just wanted a luks based install alongside win8. installer did not offer it.
[21:35] <xnox> directhex: in UEFI mode? known bug.
[21:35] <xnox> directhex: well new feature.
[21:35] <xnox> directhex: where did you get win8 from by the way?
[21:35] <directhex> installer JustWorked with secure boot though. that impressed.
[21:35] <xnox> =)))))))))
[21:36] <directhex> bought from windows.com, made an installer usb stick
[21:36] <xnox> oh it's general sale now? interesting.
[21:36] <directhex> upgrade install from win7. win7 install was harder
[21:36] <directhex> hard*est*
[21:37] <directhex> waiting to see all of the secure boot stuff backported to 12.04 point release
[21:40] <directhex> that was a large point of the exercise - forewarning myself on how secure boot will be for users in the future
[21:40] <directhex> tl;dr: uneventful
[22:17] <AlanBell> evening
[22:18]  * AlanBell has been beering with czajkowski and davmor2
[22:18] <AlanBell> it was fun
[22:18] <AlanBell> and sorry about the nexus 7 czajkowski
[22:19] <Azelphur> well, that was pretty cool
[22:19] <Azelphur> I just requested a refund on an app that I bought about 6 months ago, and google accepted it
[22:20] <Azelphur> It was a pretty legit request (the app doesn't work, for anyone, and never has done) but still, less than 60 seconds for them to give me a refund \o/
[22:21] <directhex> recure boot & steam beta in the same evening
[22:50] <bittin> dissing UK and going to Norrland instead =D
[23:12] <ali1234> directhex: i've not tried real hardware, only the tiano simulator in qemu
[23:12] <directhex> ah. i'm a freakin' pioneer!
[23:13] <ali1234> directhex: you can read all about it on my website, if you want
[23:13] <ali1234> al.robotfuzz.com - in 4 parts
[23:14] <ali1234> after that mjg's blog is the best place for the real scoop
[23:15] <ali1234> Azelphur: you know how to hack android apks right? can you look at the bbc news app and tell me if it's possible to change the feeds it uses?
[23:16] <Azelphur> ali1234: nope, I've never done that
[23:16] <ali1234> annoyingly it is by far the best RSS reader on android with the only problem being it can only access BBC feeds
[23:16] <Azelphur> I know it can be done, but I've never tried to do it
[23:16] <ali1234> i thought you did with that NFC thing...
[23:16] <Azelphur> ali1234: tried pulse? it's rather popualr
[23:16] <Azelphur> ali1234: nope, someone else did that
[23:17] <ali1234> yes, i tried just about every rss in the store today
[23:17] <ali1234> they are all rubbish
[23:20] <czajkowski> evening
[23:20] <czajkowski> just home
[23:27] <dogmatic69> lol
[23:27] <dogmatic69> just got a 'chromium has crashed, restart | leave closed'
[23:27] <dogmatic69> opted to click the X and continue using it...
[23:29] <ali1234> yeah i get that a lot
[23:31] <Ng> hrm, no popey
[23:36] <czajkowski> oh a Ng
[23:37] <Ng> hi :)
[23:37] <czajkowski> hows things with you?
[23:40] <Ng> czajkowski: good thanks. you?
[23:41] <czajkowski> yeah not bad working away keeping busy :)