| KilosKid | Anyone in here? | 04:28 |
|---|---|---|
| Kilos | hi superfly and others | 06:10 |
| superfly | morning Kilos | 06:11 |
| Kilos | all good there at home superfly ? | 06:11 |
| superfly | Kilos: mostly | 06:11 |
| Kilos | aw mostly? | 06:12 |
| Kilos | supposed to be all good | 06:12 |
| superfly | Just the usual family growing pains... working out how to deal with things | 06:12 |
| Kilos | ai | 06:12 |
| Kilos | and life is so much faster than it used to be | 06:13 |
| Kilos | and you guys dont get enough sleep | 06:14 |
| Kilos | worse with small kids as well. they sleep when it suits them and expect the same from you | 06:14 |
| Kilos | sleep when it suits them that is | 06:14 |
| Kilos | but keep good records and one day you can look back and have a good laugh | 06:15 |
| Kilos | or beat them up when they grown | 06:16 |
| Kilos | hehe | 06:16 |
| * Kilos keeps quiet now or the pro will say i talk to much | 06:16 | |
| * superfly went to bed after 1am last night | 06:17 | |
| Kilos | eish | 06:17 |
| superfly | As I said to mrs_fly last night though, if I must go to bed at 1am so that my children can spend the evening with their father, then I will. It is better for me to be tired than for them to grow up without a father. | 06:18 |
| Kilos | yip i agree but it gets you to a real poegaai state | 06:20 |
| superfly | Kilos: Well, if that's what it takes, then that is what it takes. I chose to be a father, I accept the responsibility and I will put my children first. | 06:22 |
| Kilos | heres a new site for those interested | 06:22 |
| Kilos | http://www.androidquestions.org/forum.php | 06:22 |
| Kilos | good man | 06:22 |
| Kilos | store up blessings in heaven not here | 06:23 |
| Squirm | hi | 06:23 |
| Kilos | hi Squirm | 06:23 |
| superfly | yo Squirm, Vince-0 | 06:32 |
| Kilos | lo Vince-0 | 06:33 |
| Kilos | pc took 15 mins to boot today | 06:33 |
| Kilos | got a sick sata 160g plugged in as second drive | 06:33 |
| Kilos | shows in bios and gparted shows it as unallocated | 06:34 |
| Kilos | so trying the gpart recovery tool | 06:34 |
| Vince-0 | Haai! | 06:34 |
| Kilos | oh is there a command whereby i can clone this drive onto the second drive and will it clone the mbr as well | 06:37 |
| superfly | Kilos: dd, but you don't want to use that | 06:37 |
| Kilos | i mean is there one i can use | 06:38 |
| Kilos | only dd i use at times is the drive zero one | 06:38 |
| Kilos | found this superfly but not sure if it will do mbr boot and all | 06:43 |
| Kilos | rsync -avx --progress / /new-disk/ | 06:43 |
| superfly | Kilos: no, rsync only looks at files on a file system, not raw bytes | 06:44 |
| Kilos | ah ty misleading link then | 06:44 |
| Kilos | http://superuser.com/questions/307541/copy- | 06:44 |
| Kilos | ian was called out at midnight . office/workshop had been broken into and got back at 3am so also tired today | 07:41 |
| Kilos | hi Tonberry timkeller | 08:58 |
| timkeller | Hi Kilos | 08:58 |
| Kilos | evening inetpro | 08:59 |
| Tonberry | hi | 09:02 |
| Kilos | ohi KilosKid | 09:11 |
| KilosKid | Yo. | 09:11 |
| inetpro | good morning Kilos | 10:40 |
| Kilos | lol | 10:41 |
| inetpro | Kilos: where is kiloskid in Australia, as in what timezone? | 10:42 |
| Kilos | in aus 8 or 9 hours ahead of us | 10:42 |
| Kilos | shes coming | 10:43 |
| Kilos | dont just lurk KilosKid say hi or something | 10:43 |
| inetpro | KilosKid: good morning, what town are you in? | 10:44 |
| Kilos | melbourne | 10:44 |
| KilosKid | Yo | 10:44 |
| KilosKid | lol Kilos, that's funny. Everyone else is lurking. :P | 10:44 |
| * inetpro putting the timezone for Melbourne on tzwatch | 10:45 | |
| Kilos | they are working mostly | 10:45 |
| Kilos | and peek to see if anything interesting is happening now and again | 10:46 |
| inetpro | KilosKid: would that be EDT (Eastern Daylight Time)? | 10:47 |
| KilosKid | Yep. :) | 10:47 |
| KilosKid | It's currently 21:47pm | 10:47 |
| KilosKid | obviously it's pm.... | 10:47 |
| Kilos | still 8 ahead | 10:47 |
| Kilos | when they move away | 10:47 |
| Kilos | oh no its 9 | 10:48 |
| Kilos | weird how they move the country closer and further in winter and summer | 10:49 |
| KilosKid | lol | 10:49 |
| Kilos | we stay stable all year | 10:49 |
| superfly | KilosKid: every time you say hi, I'm not at my desk, and then just as I get to my desk, you disappeared :-P | 10:49 |
| KilosKid | SUPAHflahhhh. | 10:51 |
| KilosKid | I did the whole "leave comp on login page for overnight" | 10:51 |
| KilosKid | For about eight hours | 10:51 |
| KilosKid | It didn't freeze. | 10:51 |
| KilosKid | But, my comp doesn't freeze anymore anyway when I just leave it on its own | 10:51 |
| KilosKid | Typically, when I leave it alone, I close everything anyway. | 10:52 |
| superfly | OK, so that's a step in the right direction | 10:52 |
| KilosKid | How so? | 10:54 |
| KilosKid | Just insofar as troubleshooting further? | 10:54 |
| superfly | it's not just freezing anytime | 10:54 |
| KilosKid | It was freezing when I was using dash | 10:54 |
| KilosKid | And then Kilos had me do a thingy that auto-configured stuff to avoid clashes | 10:54 |
| KilosKid | And I think it's okay now | 10:54 |
| superfly | OK | 10:54 |
| superfly | Kilos: ^^ autoconfigure? | 10:54 |
| Kilos | dpkg --configure -a | 10:55 |
| Kilos | all i could think of | 10:55 |
| KilosKid | When I had Windows, my art program (photoshop) and music program were installed, and they were also causing the comp to freeze (along with Youtube). | 10:55 |
| KilosKid | I'd imagine that the problem is the same. If I installed GIMP and my music program, chances are it would still freeze | 10:55 |
| KilosKid | I just only check Youtube because I know that as long as Youtube is freezing, so too will those two big programs | 10:56 |
| superfly | KilosKid: you never know until you try | 10:56 |
| KilosKid | Also, the last time I installed my music program, Windows blue screened the ULTIMATE blue screen and I had to reformat. | 10:56 |
| KilosKid | So... Yes. | 10:56 |
| KilosKid | I don't want to install anything until I fix this issue. | 10:56 |
| superfly | what is your music program? | 10:56 |
| KilosKid | It's what came with my microphone | 10:57 |
| KilosKid | Avid Pro Tools SE. | 10:57 |
| superfly | oh right | 10:57 |
| Kilos | superfly, is there a stress tester one can use to pinpoint the prob area of the hardware | 10:57 |
| Kilos | somewhere in mb methinks | 10:57 |
| KilosKid | There's something called MPrime that stresses the CPU | 10:57 |
| KilosKid | Right now, it's looking like it might be the PSU, CPU, or motherboard. | 10:58 |
| inetpro | KilosKid: sorry if I don't respond, trying to work here as well | 10:58 |
| KilosKid | That's alright. | 10:58 |
| Kilos | i actually have a stress cd somewhere but couldnt use it because it asked for a password | 11:00 |
| Kilos | grrr | 11:00 |
| KilosKid | lol | 11:01 |
| KilosKid | awe | 11:01 |
| superfly | KilosKid: You might want to try Ardour as an alternative to Pro Tools | 11:01 |
| inetpro | BTW the timezone I had to add for tzwatch was for 'Australia/Sydney' | 11:02 |
| * inetpro enjoys tzwatch | 11:02 | |
| KilosKid | Oooh | 11:02 |
| KilosKid | That works, inetpro. Sydney is on the east coast too, right above Victoria/Melb. | 11:02 |
| KilosKid | Its three reviews don't instill confidence. | 11:03 |
| inetpro | I just enter tzwatch on the cli and it shows me all the multiple zones I have entered so far (of people I know in the different regions) | 11:03 |
| KilosKid | I would like to get tzwatch | 11:03 |
| inetpro | sudo aptitude install tzwatch | 11:04 |
| Kilos | Maaz, google stress linux cd download | 11:04 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "Stresslinux" http://www.stresslinux.org/ :: "Linux Stress Testing and Benchmarking - Overclockers Forums" http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=486495 :: "Download StressLinux 0.7.106 for Linux - A minimal Linux ..." http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Operating-Systems/Linux-Distributions/StressLinux-2070.shtml :: "Download StressLinux | 11:04 |
| Maaz | v0.7.106 (64-bit) live CD Torrent | 1337x.org" http://1337x.org/torrent/386728/StressLinux-v0… | 11:04 |
| inetpro | a very simple small yet effective little utility | 11:04 |
| KilosKid | Thanks inetpro | 11:05 |
| inetpro | use 'tzwatch -c' to configure | 11:06 |
| superfly | inetpro: apt-get, aptitude doesn't work with multiarch | 11:06 |
| inetpro | superfly: multiarch? | 11:07 |
| inetpro | superfly: KilosKid not on Ubuntu? | 11:07 |
| superfly | inetpro: yup, we've moved away from ia32-libs to multiarch | 11:07 |
| inetpro | hang on, let me understand that | 11:08 |
| KilosKid | inetpro: Yes, I'm using Ubuntu. | 11:08 |
| inetpro | superfly: what do you mean with that? | 11:08 |
| KilosKid | *confused* | 11:08 |
| * KilosKid is confused. | 11:08 | |
| KilosKid | Ehem. | 11:08 |
| superfly | inetpro: linux used to have a system called ia32-libs in order to install 32-bit libraries on 64-bit linux. | 11:08 |
| superfly | KilosKid: just ignore us for the moment, we're talking geeky technical details :-) | 11:09 |
| KilosKid | superfly: lol, I'll say. :P | 11:09 |
| inetpro | and you can no longer aptitude because of that? | 11:09 |
| KilosKid | The tzwatch worked with aptitude though. | 11:09 |
| KilosKid | Is it supposed to have me work out the time zone settings in the terminal? | 11:09 |
| inetpro | KilosKid: yep | 11:10 |
| superfly | inetpro: but as of 12.04 and 12.10, Ubuntu has moved to use multiarch instead... so you install a 32bit package via apt-get install package-name:i386 | 11:10 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 11:10 |
| KilosKid | Okay, so should I install this Stresslinux thingy? | 11:10 |
| * inetpro will have to read some more about that... later | 11:10 | |
| superfly | inetpro: unfortunately aptitude is unable to deal with multiarch at the moment (I believe they are working on it) so it is safer to install software using apt-get if you are on a 64-bit system | 11:10 |
| inetpro | superfly: thanks for the heads up | 11:10 |
| KilosKid | What bit is my system? | 11:11 |
| KilosKid | My Windows was 32 bit | 11:11 |
| superfly | inetpro: aptitude nearly destroyed my PC when I upgraded to 12.04 | 11:11 |
| KilosKid | So does that mean that my system is 32 bit, or? | 11:11 |
| inetpro | KilosKid: most likely 32bit | 11:11 |
| superfly | KilosKid: I don't know, but most likely | 11:11 |
| superfly | KilosKid: what you can do is to download StreeLinux, and then run it from CD | 11:12 |
| * inetpro back to work, will be back later | 11:12 | |
| KilosKid | Toodles, inetpro. | 11:12 |
| KilosKid | Superfly: StreeLinux? | 11:12 |
| superfly | ag, StressLinux | 11:12 |
| KilosKid | That forum, btw, just confused me. My poor brain. I've got PC-terms overload. | 11:12 |
| superfly | KilosKid: it looks quite technical though, so you'll probably want to double-check with us before you do anything | 11:13 |
| KilosKid | Okay, I will download StressLinux. Should I get it from the download link on the website, or using synaptic/ternimal? | 11:13 |
| superfly | KilosKid: http://www.stresslinux.org/sl/wiki/Documentation | 11:14 |
| superfly | KilosKid: it's another version of Linux, like Ubuntu, but you run it from the CD | 11:14 |
| KilosKid | Like... Another OS? | 11:15 |
| inetpro | lol | 11:17 |
| superfly | KilosKid: yup, it's built on the same foundation as Ubuntu though | 11:17 |
| KilosKid | Why do I want another OS though? | 11:17 |
| superfly | KilosKid: you don't, as such. StressLinux just allows you to boot up a CD and use that CD to test your hardware. Once you're done you reboot and go back to using Ubuntu | 11:17 |
| * inetpro could not help notice that reaction from KilosKid | 11:18 | |
| inetpro | KilosKid: check http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=popularity | 11:18 |
| superfly | inetpro: let | 11:18 |
| KilosKid | Okay. | 11:18 |
| inetpro | it's a new world | 11:18 |
| superfly | *let's not overwhelm the lass now, OK? | 11:18 |
| inetpro | :-) | 11:18 |
| inetpro | ok... I'll stay out of it | 11:18 |
| KilosKid | Is cdrecord already on my Ubuntu, or do I have to manually go get it? | 11:18 |
| superfly | KilosKid: You should be able to download the ISO file, and then just right-click on it and select "Burn to CD" | 11:19 |
| KilosKid | Okay. | 11:19 |
| Kilos | lol | 11:19 |
| superfly | if you need anything else, Ubuntu *should* take care of it automatically. | 11:19 |
| KilosKid | superfly: And where do I download it from? | 11:19 |
| KilosKid | What are you lolling at, Kilos? | 11:19 |
| Kilos | the probs reaction to why would you want another os | 11:20 |
| superfly | KilosKid: http://www.stresslinux.org/sl/downloads/52 | 11:20 |
| KilosKid | I see. | 11:20 |
| superfly | that should probably be the right one for you | 11:20 |
| KilosKid | I have to open it with Archive Manager. Is there any problem with that, or can I go ahead? | 11:21 |
| superfly | KilosKid: like I said, this is all very technical, so take it easy, and if you're unsure of anything rather ask us first | 11:21 |
| Kilos | you didnt try running ubuntu from cd so you dont know you can actually run it from cd on a winsucks pc just to try it | 11:21 |
| superfly | KilosKid: that should be OK | 11:21 |
| KilosKid | I ran Ubuntu from a flash drive, yeah.' | 11:21 |
| KilosKid | Because it's too huge for my CDs | 11:21 |
| KilosKid | Does that mean this other OS is gonna be massive too? | 11:21 |
| KilosKid | I don't know how an external OS is supposed to be able to test the hardware... | 11:21 |
| superfly | big enough to fit on a CD | 11:21 |
| KilosKid | I'm not worried about big -enough-. I'm worried about -too- big. | 11:22 |
| superfly | KilosKid: don't worry, it will :-) | 11:22 |
| Kilos | you set bios to boot from cd and then use it from there | 11:22 |
| KilosKid | I have 700mb CDs. Ubuntu 12.10 is 765ish | 11:22 |
| KilosKid | I know, Kilos. | 11:22 |
| KilosKid | Okay superfly. how long is it supposed to take, and what should I be keeping an eye out for? | 11:22 |
| KilosKid | Will it write a report? | 11:22 |
| Kilos | it will show you on screen whats happpening | 11:23 |
| superfly | KilosKid: it'll take a little while, it first has to download the zip file, then unzip it, and then you'll be able to burn it to CD | 11:23 |
| KilosKid | I mean | 11:23 |
| KilosKid | Not that part | 11:23 |
| KilosKid | When it actually is running and testing the hardware. | 11:23 |
| superfly | oh... I don't know. | 11:23 |
| KilosKid | Alright. | 11:24 |
| superfly | I've never seen StressLinux before today | 11:24 |
| Kilos | is that link an iso download superfly | 11:24 |
| superfly | Kilos: It's a gzipped ISO | 11:24 |
| superfly | uh, I mean, a bzip2'ed ISO | 11:25 |
| Kilos | ok then Kilos you unzip it | 11:25 |
| Kilos | extract right where you open it | 11:25 |
| Kilos | then right click that file and use | 11:25 |
| Kilos | um | 11:25 |
| Kilos | eish | 11:25 |
| Kilos | brasero to burn to cd | 11:25 |
| Kilos | i mean brat not me | 11:26 |
| KilosKid | Oh. | 11:26 |
| KilosKid | 227 mbs. That's not bad. | 11:26 |
| KilosKid | lol | 11:26 |
| superfly | KilosKid: it still needs to unzip though | 11:26 |
| KilosKid | I know. | 11:26 |
| KilosKid | So the general idea is... | 11:26 |
| Kilos | double click it | 11:27 |
| KilosKid | Kilos, shh. | 11:27 |
| Kilos | then tick extract | 11:27 |
| KilosKid | You're saying things I know already :P | 11:27 |
| superfly | KilosKid: shh man, sy praat. | 11:27 |
| Kilos | ok go ahead | 11:27 |
| Kilos | lol | 11:27 |
| superfly | ag, Kilos | 11:27 |
| superfly | you know, it's flippin difficult to tab-complete to the right one of you two | 11:27 |
| KilosKid | Anyhoo... When running this thing, it will load the PC (etc, emulating big processes like using Youtube or a photo program, etc), and essentially trying to make the comp freeze, and then it will log what hardware caused the freeze? | 11:27 |
| KilosKid | WHAT IF IT COMES BACK WITH NO HARDWARE ISSUES? | 11:28 |
| KilosKid | Then I'm screwed. We've done all the software troubleshooting that's in existence, surely. | 11:28 |
| KilosKid | Besides, it shouldn't be software-related since I have had this freezing problem in two different OSes, and none of the same software. | 11:29 |
| superfly | KilosKid: something like that | 11:29 |
| superfly | yes, I also reckon it is a hardware issue | 11:29 |
| * inetpro agrees, she needs another name | 11:29 | |
| KilosKid | Okay. | 11:29 |
| KilosKid | How about... | 11:29 |
| KilosKid | KidKilos | 11:29 |
| KilosKid | :D | 11:29 |
| KilosKid | Therefore, Kid is first. | 11:29 |
| inetpro | ai... about something with a k | 11:30 |
| KilosKid | Wait one, I go change it. | 11:30 |
| inetpro | I mean without a k | 11:30 |
| KilosKid | BabyKilos? | 11:30 |
| KilosKid | SpawnofKilos? | 11:30 |
| inetpro | sjoe nee | 11:30 |
| KilosKid | I'd put BratKilos, but I think Kilos would like that one too much. | 11:30 |
| inetpro | make it a nice name | 11:31 |
| Kilos | hehe | 11:31 |
| KilosKid | TaraLynnKilos. | 11:31 |
| KilosKid | How do I change it without logging out/in? | 11:31 |
| inetpro | type /nick and a new name | 11:31 |
| === KilosKid is now known as TaraLynnKilos | ||
| TaraLynnKilos | Yay | 11:32 |
| Kilos | whew poor peeps without tab complete | 11:32 |
| inetpro | ya that's a bit long but better than KilosKid | 11:33 |
| === TaraLynnKilos is now known as TaraKilos | ||
| TaraKilos | Eish, there. | 11:33 |
| Kilos | brat is good | 11:33 |
| TaraKilos | Kilos, pay attention to your PIdgin, please. | 11:33 |
| Kilos | hmm | 11:33 |
| inetpro | anyway... go on with the super fly issues | 11:33 |
| Kilos | soooo cheeky | 11:34 |
| TaraKilos | I asked nicely. Bah. | 11:35 |
| Kilos | lol | 11:35 |
| TaraKilos | Whew. | 11:38 |
| TaraKilos | 154KBs/ps | 11:38 |
| TaraKilos | Stupid slow interwebs | 11:38 |
| Kilos | try gprs | 11:39 |
| TaraKilos | Where? | 11:39 |
| Kilos | you lucky to get to 40kB/s | 11:39 |
| TaraKilos | Oh | 11:39 |
| TaraKilos | lol | 11:39 |
| TaraKilos | I thowwy. | 11:39 |
| Kilos | when you use fone as modem | 11:39 |
| TaraKilos | Oh, nope. | 11:40 |
| TaraKilos | The chat is still there in the window. | 11:40 |
| TaraKilos | There used to be an option "Clear IM chat" or something | 11:40 |
| Kilos | how can it come back | 11:40 |
| Kilos | it must clear | 11:40 |
| TaraKilos | I opened a different window. | 11:41 |
| TaraKilos | I think I have the settings set to "keep chat" | 11:41 |
| TaraKilos | One moment | 11:41 |
| Kilos | oh you have to close each one you want clear | 11:41 |
| TaraKilos | I know. | 11:41 |
| TaraKilos | That's not working | 11:41 |
| TaraKilos | The other one was clear because nothing had been typed | 11:41 |
| Kilos | restart pidgin then all gone | 11:41 |
| TaraKilos | Blah. | 11:43 |
| TaraKilos | Okeydoke. | 11:43 |
| TaraKilos | Oh, also | 11:45 |
| TaraKilos | superfly: How do I install drivers for my Lexmark All-In-One printer? | 11:45 |
| Kilos | did you boot with it plugged kiddo | 11:46 |
| superfly | TaraKilos: How is your printer plugged in? | 11:46 |
| TaraKilos | USB. | 11:47 |
| TaraKilos | I haven't plugged it in | 11:47 |
| TaraKilos | Actually | 11:47 |
| TaraKilos | I ran my comp from when it had been on all night, not logged in | 11:48 |
| TaraKilos | And then inside five mins of plugging in the printer, it froze | 11:48 |
| TaraKilos | I will restart with it plugged in and see what happens | 11:48 |
| TaraKilos | For now though, where do I extract StressLinux to? | 11:48 |
| Kilos | right where you open it | 11:48 |
| TaraKilos | So back into its own folder? | 11:48 |
| Kilos | on desktop or in the same file | 11:48 |
| Kilos | ya | 11:49 |
| Kilos | you said you know | 11:49 |
| * Kilos sighs | 11:49 | |
| TaraKilos | I think I'll extract to Desktop | 11:49 |
| Kilos | hehe | 11:49 |
| TaraKilos | I said I know to right click and select extract | 11:49 |
| Kilos | yip thats good | 11:49 |
| TaraKilos | I was asking now if there was a specific place I should extract it to | 11:49 |
| TaraKilos | Sheesh | 11:49 |
| TaraKilos | Okay, brb. | 11:50 |
| Kilos | once extracted | 11:50 |
| Kilos | wait | 11:50 |
| Kilos | have you burned it already | 11:50 |
| nuvolari | the what what? Tara herself? or oom kilos? | 11:50 |
| Kilos | you right click and go open with | 11:51 |
| Kilos | brasero | 11:51 |
| TaraKilos | It's still extracting | 11:52 |
| TaraKilos | I will be back in about forty-five mins | 11:52 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 11:53 |
| Kilos | sy ook nuvolari | 11:53 |
| Kilos | she can actually change nick to tara now | 11:54 |
| Kilos | everyone knows she be my brat | 11:54 |
| Kilos | those that dont can read logs | 11:55 |
| Kilos | shame | 11:55 |
| Kilos | ty superfly and inetpro | 11:55 |
| Kilos | together we will get to the bottom o the prob and find a solution' | 11:56 |
| nuvolari | we have a celebrity in the house! | 11:56 |
| Kilos | ya but a stubborn one | 11:58 |
| Kilos | i was never like that | 11:58 |
| * Kilos cries | 12:07 | |
| magespawn | howdy | 12:07 |
| Kilos | input/output error during write on /dev/sda1 | 12:07 |
| superfly | hiya magespawn | 12:07 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 12:07 |
| magespawn | sure mister 52 clean installs | 12:08 |
| Kilos | near the end of detecting file system on 2 TB drive | 12:08 |
| Kilos | lol you also getting cheeky | 12:08 |
| magespawn | hey superfly kilos | 12:08 |
| magespawn | wait till i'm really tired like i will be on monday | 12:09 |
| Kilos | aw wassup\ | 12:09 |
| magespawn | gonna be driving for 900 or so kms | 12:09 |
| Kilos | i still know some of the mafia in natal so np | 12:09 |
| Kilos | whew | 12:09 |
| Kilos | where going | 12:10 |
| Kilos | taking game away? | 12:10 |
| magespawn | three round trips hluhluwe - richards bay - mbazwana * 3 | 12:11 |
| magespawn | the kid still getting the pc working i see | 12:11 |
| Kilos | ya slowly | 12:12 |
| Kilos | looks like she inherited murphys law from me | 12:13 |
| Kilos | Maaz, murphys law | 12:15 |
| Maaz | If something can give trouble, rest assured, it will | 12:15 |
| Squirm | Maaz: coffee on | 12:18 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 12:18 | |
| magespawn | gotta go people are here | 12:20 |
| Kilos | toods magespawn | 12:20 |
| Kilos | go safe | 12:20 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee please | 12:21 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Sure | 12:21 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Squirm and Kilos! | 12:22 |
| Kilos | Maaz, ty | 12:22 |
| Maaz | You are welcome Kilos | 12:22 |
| TaraKilos | Murphy's Law needs to go down to the very most horriblest pit of Hell and stay there. | 13:11 |
| TaraKilos | Suffering immeasurable torture. | 13:11 |
| TaraKilos | For eternity. | 13:11 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:12 |
| TaraKilos | Okay, my thingy extracted to the desktop. Can I just burn it to CD now? | 13:12 |
| Kilos | ya right click and open with brasero | 13:13 |
| TaraKilos | It says my disc has 469mbs of free space. But... these are 700mb discs. Whaaaat. | 13:14 |
| superfly | TaraKilos: you choose the right one? | 13:14 |
| superfly | TaraKilos: and did you select the .iso file, or the .bzr2 file? | 13:14 |
| TaraKilos | No. Sorry. I mean, Brasero says that my blank CD-R disc has 496MB space. | 13:14 |
| TaraKilos | I have no idea. When I clicked the link you gave me, it automatically popped up a 'save this file' box. | 13:15 |
| TaraKilos | Oh. | 13:15 |
| TaraKilos | It says it's iso | 13:15 |
| Kilos | thats the freesapce that will be left over | 13:16 |
| TaraKilos | Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh | 13:17 |
| TaraKilos | That makes perfect sense. | 13:17 |
| TaraKilos | Thanks Kilos, for helping me overcome that blonde moment | 13:17 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:17 |
| Kilos | yw | 13:17 |
| TaraKilos | Download the iso image and extract the bzip2 compressed archive. | 13:20 |
| TaraKilos | Burn the .iso file with your favourite cd-r application. | 13:20 |
| TaraKilos | Boot your target system with newly created disc. | 13:20 |
| TaraKilos | At first login with user: stress and password: stress | 13:20 |
| TaraKilos | Keyboard layout select will start, select your prefered keyboard layout | 13:20 |
| TaraKilos | The next dialog shows sl-wizard, which allows you to load predefined lm_sensor configurations. If your mainboard is not listed, select Cancel. | 13:20 |
| TaraKilos | If sensors configuration got loaded and works, then you will see sensor readings on TTY12 (STRG+F12) | 13:20 |
| TaraKilos | Switching to TTY11 will show harddisk temprature readings, if a valid drive is detected. | 13:20 |
| TaraKilos | TTY10 shows you ethernet throughput on eth0 (needs working dhcp server on your network) | 13:20 |
| TaraKilos | Tools for testing your system are listed in the motd. For little help on these tools type <toolname> --help | 13:20 |
| TaraKilos | If you need to login into stresslinux via ssh, use the user "stress" with password "stress" . Use 'sudo -i' to get root rights. | 13:20 |
| TaraKilos | If you want to rerun sl-wizard, then execute "rm /tmp/sensors". Now run sl-wizard.sh. | 13:20 |
| TaraKilos | .... Good lord. | 13:21 |
| TaraKilos | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1360223/ | 13:21 |
| TaraKilos | That's hurt-my-brain territory | 13:21 |
| Kilos | cant you do it with brasero | 13:21 |
| TaraKilos | Everything up to step 7 makes sense. | 13:21 |
| Kilos | now i see the password | 13:22 |
| Kilos | will try mine when pc gives probs | 13:22 |
| TaraKilos | lol | 13:22 |
| TaraKilos | Wow. Drive speed: 3100KiBs | 13:23 |
| TaraKilos | I have no idea what that number means | 13:23 |
| TaraKilos | But looking at the progress bar, it's going super fast | 13:23 |
| Tonberry | that is fairly slow | 13:23 |
| TaraKilos | Oh. | 13:24 |
| TaraKilos | Well it's fast for me. | 13:24 |
| TaraKilos | CPU is staying at 28c | 13:24 |
| TaraKilos | MB at 38c | 13:24 |
| TaraKilos | Okay, disc is made. | 13:26 |
| Kilos | hi Tonberry | 13:26 |
| TaraKilos | But the steps from step 7 confuse me. | 13:26 |
| Kilos | when you start it it will ask for username and password | 13:27 |
| Kilos | both are stress | 13:27 |
| TaraKilos | Yes I know | 13:27 |
| TaraKilos | I said from step 7 | 13:27 |
| Kilos | you will need another pc here when you do it | 13:27 |
| Kilos | once it lets you in then you go sudo -i | 13:28 |
| TaraKilos | Wait | 13:28 |
| TaraKilos | I go get laptop | 13:29 |
| Kilos | then hope the fly is available to help further | 13:29 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:29 |
| Kilos | stroppy chick that | 13:29 |
| TaraKilos | Eeh | 13:43 |
| Kilos | wb | 13:44 |
| TaraKilos | ty | 13:44 |
| TaraKilos | So I selected keyboard | 13:44 |
| TaraKilos | Next step is all about sensor... thingies. | 13:44 |
| TaraKilos | hardware sensors. I have no idea what to do here. | 13:44 |
| TaraKilos | There are 70. Sheesh. | 13:45 |
| TaraKilos | Oh oh oh | 13:45 |
| TaraKilos | Please select your vendor mainboard. | 13:45 |
| TaraKilos | There are only four ASUS ones to check from | 13:45 |
| TaraKilos | How do I know which is mine? | 13:45 |
| Kilos | whew you gave it to us the other day | 13:46 |
| TaraKilos | The p5LK thing? | 13:46 |
| Kilos | ya | 13:46 |
| TaraKilos | Mine isn't on here. | 13:46 |
| TaraKilos | It says just to select cancel, right? | 13:46 |
| Kilos | then try highest number one | 13:46 |
| Kilos | i dunno | 13:47 |
| TaraKilos | I sent you guys the link with the directions | 13:47 |
| TaraKilos | I don't have it on the laptop | 13:47 |
| Kilos | oh that pile of spam?sec | 13:47 |
| TaraKilos | Blah | 13:47 |
| Kilos | <TaraKilos> Download the iso image and extract the bzip2 compressed archive. | 13:47 |
| Kilos | <TaraKilos> Burn the .iso file with your favourite cd-r application. | 13:47 |
| Kilos | <TaraKilos> Boot your target system with newly created disc. | 13:47 |
| Kilos | <TaraKilos> At first login with user: stress and password: stress | 13:47 |
| Kilos | <TaraKilos> Keyboard layout select will start, select your prefered keyboard layout | 13:47 |
| Kilos | <TaraKilos> The next dialog shows sl-wizard, which allows you to load predefined lm_sensor configurations. If your mainboard is not listed, select Cancel. | 13:47 |
| TaraKilos | I put it on a pastebin after that | 13:47 |
| Kilos | <TaraKilos> If sensors configuration got loaded and works, then you will see sensor readings on TTY12 (STRG+F12) | 13:47 |
| Kilos | <TaraKilos> Switching to TTY11 will show harddisk temprature readings, if a valid drive is detected. | 13:47 |
| Kilos | <TaraKilos> TTY10 shows you ethernet throughput on eth0 (needs working dhcp server on your network) | 13:48 |
| Kilos | <TaraKilos> Tools for testing your system are listed in the motd. For little help on these tools type <toolname> --help | 13:48 |
| Kilos | <TaraKilos> If you need to login into stresslinux via ssh, use the user "stress" with password "stress" . Use 'sudo -i' to get root rights. | 13:48 |
| Kilos | <TaraKilos> If you want to rerun sl-wizard, then execute "rm /tmp/sensors". Now run sl-wizard.sh. | 13:48 |
| Kilos | oops | 13:48 |
| Kilos | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1360223/ | 13:48 |
| TaraKilos | looooool | 13:48 |
| Kilos | sorry i missed that | 13:48 |
| Kilos | the guys will swear at me now now | 13:48 |
| * Kilos hides | 13:48 | |
| TaraKilos | Hm | 13:49 |
| TaraKilos | I have two CPUs, but only one is running | 13:50 |
| Kilos | 2 seperate ones | 13:50 |
| Kilos | or 2 cores in one | 13:50 |
| Kilos | i didnt go look your pics of it | 13:51 |
| TaraKilos | I have no idea | 13:51 |
| Kilos | there is a hyperthreading thing in bios should be on if you got core2 or dual core methinks | 13:51 |
| TaraKilos | Wait. Resizing screenshot of page | 13:51 |
| TaraKilos | I think it's dual core | 13:52 |
| Kilos | mail it to me | 13:52 |
| TaraKilos | oh yep | 13:52 |
| TaraKilos | it says it there | 13:52 |
| TaraKilos | I was gonna share it with everyone? | 13:52 |
| Kilos | ya but them cores are in one cpu housing | 13:52 |
| Kilos | oh you can | 13:52 |
| TaraKilos | http://shrinkpictures.com/processed/phpYmbSrCAM.jpg | 13:54 |
| TaraKilos | Sorry, it's a bit blurry | 13:54 |
| Kilos | no man that site sucks | 13:55 |
| Kilos | http://localhost/go_away_no_hotlinking_allowed | 13:55 |
| TaraKilos | Whoops | 13:55 |
| TaraKilos | I forgot I have to save it | 13:55 |
| TaraKilos | Ugh, my brain is hurting | 13:55 |
| TaraKilos | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/Krice_Verta/CPUThing.jpg | 13:56 |
| Kilos | lshw will list your hardware | 13:58 |
| Kilos | what you wanna try cook first the cpu | 13:59 |
| TaraKilos | Wow... That was a huge list. | 13:59 |
| TaraKilos | And yeah. | 13:59 |
| TaraKilos | Maybe we should try cook what ISN'T the problem first | 13:59 |
| TaraKilos | Or rather, what we know isn't. Like the HDD. Or something. | 13:59 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:00 |
| TaraKilos | I guess I'll just type in 'stress' and hope the comp doesn't explode | 14:00 |
| Kilos | lemme see if i can work it out | 14:00 |
| Kilos | ya | 14:00 |
| TaraKilos | I wanna wait for Superfly's feedback, though | 14:00 |
| Kilos | watch for smoke and where it comes from | 14:00 |
| TaraKilos | lol | 14:00 |
| * TaraKilos cries. | 14:00 | |
| Kilos | rofl | 14:01 |
| Kilos | wont happen man | 14:01 |
| Kilos | 'he will be hitting the train home shortly so you might only get him when he gets home and gets a break from family duties | 14:02 |
| TaraKilos | Darn | 14:02 |
| Kilos | but go with stress so long | 14:02 |
| TaraKilos | That's what I wanted his feedback on | 14:02 |
| TaraKilos | Buuuut okay... | 14:02 |
| Kilos | its a linux program so you should be safe | 14:03 |
| Kilos | it might rattle the windows a bit though | 14:03 |
| Kilos | and the doors | 14:03 |
| TaraKilos | lol | 14:04 |
| Tonberry | if it breaks something it would have broken pretty soon anyway | 14:04 |
| Kilos | ya | 14:05 |
| Kilos | i dont think its a prob | 14:05 |
| TaraKilos | Yeah | 14:05 |
| Kilos | just see readouts | 14:05 |
| TaraKilos | Took me to another menu | 14:05 |
| Kilos | should give some info all the time i think | 14:05 |
| TaraKilos | Which I'm uploading a pic of | 14:05 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:05 |
| TaraKilos | Why is that funny? | 14:06 |
| Kilos | i got more pics of your pc here than mine | 14:06 |
| TaraKilos | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/Krice_Verta/CPUThing2.jpg | 14:06 |
| Kilos | oh has it run stress already | 14:09 |
| TaraKilos | I have no idea. Probably not. | 14:10 |
| Kilos | or is this still the setup | 14:10 |
| TaraKilos | I typed in stress and that page came up | 14:10 |
| TaraKilos | I guess it's still setup? | 14:10 |
| Kilos | ah ok sec | 14:10 |
| Kilos | me go squint at it | 14:10 |
| TaraKilos | lol | 14:10 |
| Kilos | thats the stuff i always ask the guys to put into a neat command for me | 14:11 |
| Kilos | go stress -c | 14:12 |
| Kilos | and see what happens | 14:12 |
| TaraKilos | Ugh, nope | 14:13 |
| TaraKilos | I typed: | 14:13 |
| TaraKilos | stress -c | 14:13 |
| TaraKilos | stress -cpu | 14:13 |
| TaraKilos | stres --cpu | 14:13 |
| Kilos | oh and next time you reboot go bios and check that a thing called hyperthreading is enabled | 14:13 |
| TaraKilos | One thing at a time, please. | 14:13 |
| superfly | TaraKilos: according to the site, the username and password are both "stress" | 14:14 |
| TaraKilos | Yep, I did that. | 14:14 |
| TaraKilos | I typed in stress, and then go http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/Krice_Verta/CPUThing2.jpg this page. | 14:14 |
| TaraKilos | got* | 14:14 |
| TaraKilos | I typed in stress to stress the CPU I mean | 14:14 |
| Kilos | it needs the bits and pices to complete the command superfly | 14:15 |
| Kilos | like i always battle with | 14:15 |
| Kilos | TaraKilos, copy the warning line here | 14:16 |
| Kilos | copy and paste here | 14:16 |
| TaraKilos | First page I had was this one http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/Krice_Verta/CPUThing.jpg So I typed in 'stress' to stress the CPU/etc, and got that second one | 14:16 |
| TaraKilos | What warning line? | 14:16 |
| Kilos | on the second page | 14:16 |
| TaraKilos | But it's visible there on the image... | 14:16 |
| Kilos | warning output may be incomplete | 14:16 |
| Kilos | oh i see it but cant copy | 14:16 |
| TaraKilos | Do you want to copy it to google it? | 14:17 |
| Kilos | no then the fly can tell you if you must use that info to go in as superuser | 14:17 |
| superfly | stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --hdd 1 --timeout 10s | 14:17 |
| Kilos | see | 14:17 |
| TaraKilos | Fly can see the image too ,though. Right? | 14:17 |
| TaraKilos | So I type in: stress --cpu 8 ? | 14:18 |
| Kilos | theres your command to use | 14:18 |
| Kilos | stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --hdd 1 --timeout 10s | 14:18 |
| Kilos | tara ^^ | 14:18 |
| Kilos | i leave you to the fly | 14:19 |
| Kilos | ty superfly | 14:19 |
| TaraKilos | Successful run complete in 11 seconds. | 14:19 |
| TaraKilos | Whassat mean? | 14:19 |
| superfly | it was successful and only took 11 seconds? | 14:20 |
| TaraKilos | Well yes | 14:20 |
| TaraKilos | But does 'successful' mean 'no problems'? | 14:20 |
| superfly | remove the timeout option, and see what it does | 14:20 |
| TaraKilos | Okay. | 14:20 |
| TaraKilos | I just put 'stress --cpu 8 | 14:20 |
| TaraKilos | Not sure why the 8 makes a different | 14:20 |
| TaraKilos | ce* | 14:20 |
| TaraKilos | Nothing so far. Who knows if this'll just keep going until I restart... hm. | 14:22 |
| TaraKilos | Shouldn't the fan spin faster if the CPU is loaded? | 14:23 |
| TaraKilos | And therefore, make more noise? | 14:23 |
| Tonberry | usually | 14:25 |
| TaraKilos | It's not, at the moment. | 14:25 |
| TaraKilos | And the readout on the screen isn't changing, so I'm nooot sure if this is even running. Hm. | 14:25 |
| Kilos | thstress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --hdd 1 | 14:27 |
| Kilos | eish | 14:27 |
| TaraKilos | o.0 | 14:27 |
| Kilos | stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --hdd 1 | 14:27 |
| TaraKilos | I don't have a command prompt to type that in | 14:28 |
| Kilos | the fly said leave out the timeout option | 14:28 |
| TaraKilos | I did. | 14:28 |
| Kilos | I just put 'stress --cpu 8 | 14:29 |
| TaraKilos | Yes.... that's what I did. | 14:29 |
| Kilos | stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --hdd 1 | 14:29 |
| TaraKilos | I only wanted to test the cpu | 14:29 |
| Kilos | all those bits and pieces in there have meaning | 14:29 |
| TaraKilos | Oi Fine. | 14:29 |
| TaraKilos | I'll restart it. | 14:30 |
| TaraKilos | Five horses. | 14:30 |
| Kilos | as in the cpu dont work unless its gotta move stuff from hdd and ram etc | 14:30 |
| TaraKilos | Is that what all that means? | 14:31 |
| TaraKilos | --hdd makes the hard drive accessible to --cpu? | 14:31 |
| Tonberry | not necessarily | 14:32 |
| Tonberry | some cpu load can be on the cpu cache only | 14:32 |
| TaraKilos | I didn't think that it did. I thought it meant that putting in --hdd would test the hard drive at the same time | 14:32 |
| TaraKilos | I just wanted to test the cpu on its own | 14:32 |
| Tonberry | that should actually produce more cpu stress than a load that constantly needs things from ram | 14:32 |
| TaraKilos | I'll input that whole line then | 14:33 |
| Kilos | ton explain what that whole command means with all the - - etc | 14:33 |
| Kilos | as in --hdd | 14:33 |
| TaraKilos | Okay, disk is actually making that loading sound now | 14:34 |
| TaraKilos | It wasn't before. | 14:34 |
| TaraKilos | Naive me. | 14:34 |
| TaraKilos | The stresslinux CD, I mean | 14:34 |
| Kilos | and --io | 14:34 |
| Kilos | when the fly gives you a command dont change it. he knows what each piece does | 14:35 |
| TaraKilos | k | 14:35 |
| Kilos | Tonberry, explain what that whole command means with all the - - etc --io and stuff please | 14:37 |
| TaraKilos | He doesn't have to. | 14:37 |
| Kilos | i wont remeber but it might help TaraKilos understand | 14:37 |
| Tonberry | i can only speculate | 14:37 |
| TaraKilos | This may end up taking a while. On one forum, a guy suggested using MPrime (to someone else, not me) and letting it run for at least 12 hours, but 24 is better. | 14:37 |
| Tonberry | i have never seen that command before | 14:37 |
| TaraKilos | This isn't MPrime, but t's still a Comp stresser, so it may need roughly the same | 14:37 |
| Tonberry | mprime is good | 14:38 |
| TaraKilos | it's* | 14:38 |
| TaraKilos | If it's gonna put the same/more amount of stress on the Comp that watching Youtube (which freezes my comp) does, then it should finish soonish, hey? | 14:39 |
| Kilos | ? | 14:41 |
| Kilos | youtube puts stress on everything | 14:41 |
| Kilos | ram included | 14:41 |
| TaraKilos | So what...? | 14:41 |
| Kilos | so we not testing everything at once methinks | 14:41 |
| TaraKilos | Okay then. | 14:41 |
| TaraKilos | The disc stopped making its loud loading noise. | 14:41 |
| Kilos | no readout | 14:42 |
| TaraKilos | Nope | 14:42 |
| Kilos | passed failed etc | 14:42 |
| Kilos | eish | 14:42 |
| TaraKilos | Wait. It made a loady noise. | 14:42 |
| TaraKilos | Oi. | 14:42 |
| TaraKilos | I wish it would let me know what it's doing. | 14:42 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:42 |
| Kilos | yeah it sucks to go blind | 14:43 |
| Kilos | maybe it will still | 14:43 |
| TaraKilos | This may take ages. | 14:43 |
| TaraKilos | Eish | 14:43 |
| Kilos | maybe it only gives readout on probs not successes | 14:43 |
| TaraKilos | that's what I was just gonna say. | 14:43 |
| TaraKilos | Which means... it could go forever! | 14:43 |
| Kilos | did they not have a manual or userguide on that site too | 14:44 |
| Kilos | yip no timeout now | 14:44 |
| TaraKilos | One sec | 14:44 |
| TaraKilos | I think maybe that was the test. And then it went quiet. Now it's running again. | 14:45 |
| Kilos | nope its most likely loading more info off cd | 14:45 |
| Kilos | started on its own hey? | 14:46 |
| TaraKilos | Yeah | 14:46 |
| TaraKilos | I haven't touched anything since we started | 14:46 |
| Kilos | without readout you dunno if it restarting same test or adding more load | 14:46 |
| TaraKilos | Yeah | 14:46 |
| TaraKilos | It's following the same pattern though | 14:47 |
| TaraKilos | The way the CD sounds | 14:47 |
| TaraKilos | It goes up to full sound, then to a lower one, then settles, and then goes to a middle one, and then up to full loading sound again | 14:47 |
| Kilos | is the a stop button | 14:47 |
| Kilos | there | 14:48 |
| TaraKilos | There's nothing | 14:49 |
| Kilos | ai | 14:49 |
| TaraKilos | Just what I typed in "the whole stress --cpu 8 etc" and then a blinking cursor thing | 14:49 |
| Kilos | whew no pretty gui | 14:49 |
| TaraKilos | I can't find anything about how long it takes or how it shows you if it's successful/fail | 14:50 |
| TaraKilos | I'ma just join the StressLinux forum and ask | 14:51 |
| Kilos | ok | 14:51 |
| TaraKilos | Okay, posted. Now I wait. | 14:59 |
| TaraKilos | Gonna give laptop back to mom whilst my PC does its thing | 15:00 |
| TaraKilos | Thanks everyone for the help. Here's hoping we'll find out the issue. | 15:00 |
| superfly | TaraKilos: you've been very patient, i'm impressed | 15:02 |
| TaraKilos | Superfly: Thanks. I've got no choice but to percevere. | 15:02 |
| TaraKilos | superfly: The option of freaking out isn't one. :P | 15:03 |
| superfly | hehehe | 15:03 |
| superfly | TaraKilos: I'll have a look at StressLinux later this evening, and see if I can figure out what the different options mean, and give you a better recommendation for usage. | 15:07 |
| TaraKilos | The CD has been quiet for several minutes now. Still no readout. HMMM. | 15:08 |
| TaraKilos | Alright, thanks Supahflahhh. | 15:08 |
| * TaraKilos waves. | 15:09 | |
| * superfly needs to set up a notification for "supahflahhh" so that he knows when he is being discussed by the Kilos clan | 15:09 | |
| Kilos | lol | 15:10 |
| Kilos | shes a nut | 15:10 |
| superfly | Kilos: she didn't fall far from the tree... | 15:11 |
| Kilos | oh no i am much more patient and not as arrogant | 15:11 |
| Kilos | anymore | 15:11 |
| superfly | hahahaha | 15:12 |
| Kilos | age works wonders | 15:12 |
| Kilos | ty for helping her superfly | 15:12 |
| superfly | Np | 15:12 |
| Kilos | you know i get lost with those commands and what each bit means and does | 15:12 |
| Kilos | yay just chowned her /storage and /spare | 16:37 |
| Kilos | without -R | 16:37 |
| Kilos | ty superfly . been using -R for years everytime | 16:38 |
| Kilos | h i Cantide | 16:38 |
| Kilos | hmm me stutters | 16:39 |
| Kilos | should be h h h h hi | 16:39 |
| Cantide | evening K K Kilos | 16:40 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:40 |
| Cantide | guess what! | 16:40 |
| Kilos | what you passed | 16:40 |
| Cantide | oh, results are only out on the 14th of December | 16:40 |
| Cantide | so i won't know that yet | 16:40 |
| Cantide | buuuuuuuut.. | 16:40 |
| Cantide | CanStudy is no more | 16:41 |
| Kilos | ok what then | 16:41 |
| Cantide | I have locked him away in a cage | 16:41 |
| Kilos | yay | 16:41 |
| Kilos | big relief hey | 16:41 |
| Kilos | hi mazal | 16:41 |
| mazal | Naand oom Kilos | 16:42 |
| magtie | hi Kilos | 17:18 |
| Kilos | ok clever guys i need to know what to tell tara how to be able to see her grub menu please. she set | 17:18 |
| Kilos | hiya tannie magespawn | 17:18 |
| Kilos | ai | 17:19 |
| Kilos | magtie, ook | 17:19 |
| Kilos | tara set it to log straight in without asking for passwrod first so doesnt see the grub menu | 17:19 |
| Kilos | all good magtie ? | 17:20 |
| Kilos | you beat me tonight | 17:20 |
| magtie | fine tks | 17:20 |
| Kilos | my doggie maak my kop plat | 17:20 |
| magtie | my worsie does not like ubuntu | 17:21 |
| Kilos | and im sure she gonna need the recovery mode sooner or later | 17:21 |
| magtie | kicks up a fuss for lack of attention | 17:21 |
| Kilos | my dogter lief ubuntu met unity en al | 17:22 |
| Kilos | not my doggie dogter | 17:22 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:22 |
| Kilos | i thought doggie in afrikaans is small daughter | 17:24 |
| Kilos | sorry | 17:24 |
| magtie | sorry i thought doggie - dog | 17:24 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:24 |
| Kilos | ons trek deurmekaar | 17:24 |
| Kilos | oom inetpro is jy al tuis | 17:26 |
| Kilos | ? | 17:26 |
| Kilos | mazal, is your server working? | 17:27 |
| Kilos | i get so busy with tara and cooking and sheep that i forget who is doing what | 17:29 |
| Kilos | havent greeted Banlam bakuman for days | 17:29 |
| Kilos | im gonna try have an early night. sleep tight all of you | 17:40 |
| Kilos | will catch up inna morning | 17:40 |
| Cantide | what can i use to make an iso of a bootable CD? | 18:42 |
| Tonberry | dd ? | 18:43 |
| Cantide | dd? | 18:44 |
| Tonberry | http://www.wikihow.com/Create-an-ISO-File-in-Linux | 18:46 |
| Cantide | ty | 18:46 |
| Tonberry | just be careful with dd | 18:47 |
| Cantide | does it copy boot info? | 18:48 |
| Cantide | this CD is only useful as a boot CD; other than that the files on it are useless to me | 18:48 |
| Cantide | it's Hiren's Boot CD, if you're wondering | 18:48 |
| nuvolari | g'evening | 18:49 |
| nuvolari | sheesh it's hot | 18:49 |
| Cantide | hi nuvolari :) | 18:51 |
| Cantide | hot? | 18:51 |
| Cantide | seems cool here in Durban | 18:51 |
| nuvolari | humid and hot here in ballito :-/ | 18:51 |
| Cantide | :-S | 18:51 |
| Cantide | and you're not even far away... | 18:51 |
| magespawn | evening | 18:54 |
| Cantide | magespawn '-'/ | 18:54 |
| magespawn | o/ | 18:54 |
| Cantide | thanks, Tonberry - I now have an ISO | 18:55 |
| Cantide | i'll figure out how to write that back to CD another day / week / month :p | 18:55 |
| inetpro | good evening | 19:04 |
| magespawn | evening inetpro | 19:04 |
| inetpro | hi magespawn | 19:04 |
| inetpro | how goes it this evening? | 19:05 |
| magespawn | bit tired just got home otherwise peachy | 19:08 |
| nuvolari | meh. when I read something like this I just feel like quitting my job prematurely: http://www.technologyreview.com/news/428610/in-the-olympics-of-algorithms-a-russian-keeps-winning-gold/ | 19:08 |
| smile4ever | hi :D | 19:11 |
| nuvolari | howdy smile4ever | 19:11 |
| smile4ever | nuvolari: :) | 19:11 |
| smile4ever | does someone know batch aliases? :) | 19:12 |
| superfly | smile4ever: you mean bash aliases? | 19:15 |
| inetpro | lol | 19:16 |
| smile4ever | yea :p | 19:16 |
| smile4ever | sorry :p | 19:16 |
| superfly | smile4ever: what about them? they're not very complicated | 19:16 |
| smile4ever | well yeah, I wonder if you can give them a parameter at runtime :) | 19:17 |
| inetpro | smile4ever: alias ll='ls -alF' | 19:17 |
| smile4ever | list files? :| | 19:17 |
| inetpro | hmm... smile4ever, I don't think so | 19:17 |
| smile4ever | alias update="sudo apt-get update" :) | 19:18 |
| smile4ever | inetpro: ok :( | 19:18 |
| inetpro | smile4ever: depending what you mean with runtime | 19:18 |
| smile4ever | I would like to have "install" | 19:18 |
| smile4ever | with "sudo apt-get install [parameter]" | 19:18 |
| inetpro | alias install="sudo apt-get install" | 19:19 |
| inetpro | then just "install mypackage" | 19:19 |
| inetpro | but I wouldn't call an alias install | 19:20 |
| inetpro | or even update | 19:20 |
| magespawn | how are bash aliases stored? | 19:20 |
| inetpro | those terms are way to generic | 19:20 |
| inetpro | magespawn: in your profile folder as ~/.bash_aliases or something like that | 19:20 |
| inetpro | or .bashrc | 19:21 |
| smile4ever | inetpro: okay :D | 19:21 |
| smile4ever | thanks :) | 19:21 |
| inetpro | depending obvioulsy on whether you're using the bash shell | 19:21 |
| inetpro | obviously* | 19:21 |
| smile4ever | I'm using it ;) | 19:22 |
| * smile4ever is sure | 19:22 | |
| inetpro | man bash | 19:22 |
| inetpro | it's all in there | 19:22 |
| magespawn | and aliases are usee to make certain jobs shorter? | 19:23 |
| inetpro | magespawn: yes, but | 19:23 |
| inetpro | be careful | 19:23 |
| inetpro | try not to rely on to many aliases | 19:24 |
| inetpro | you tend to forget the real commands very quickly if you do | 19:24 |
| inetpro | but they can be very useful | 19:24 |
| smile4ever | :) | 19:25 |
| * inetpro likes putting a few standard aliases in /etc/bash.bashrc | 19:25 | |
| smile4ever | inetpro: for example? :p | 19:25 |
| inetpro | hmm.. hang on... I realise I have not even set those on me home system... yet | 19:26 |
| inetpro | smile4ever: alias h='history 25' | 19:28 |
| inetpro | alias mxlookup='nslookup -type=mx' | 19:29 |
| smile4ever | useful commands :p | 19:29 |
| inetpro | and a few exim shortcuts | 19:30 |
| inetpro | like | 19:30 |
| inetpro | alias psexim='sudo ps -x -U mailnull' | 19:30 |
| magespawn | is there any limit to the length or compelxity of aliases? | 19:30 |
| inetpro | magespawn: just keep them short or write a script when it gets complicated | 19:31 |
| inetpro | KilosKid: wb tara | 19:32 |
| KilosKid | inetpro: Thanks. :) | 19:32 |
| inetpro | or should I rather say good morning | 19:32 |
| === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za | ||
| smile4ever | good night! :D | 19:33 |
| inetpro | magespawn: but I have seen very long and complex aliases | 19:33 |
| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
| inetpro | magespawn: oh and linux shells are just magic when you really get to know them | 19:34 |
| inetpro | worth spending some time learning a few basics... and then get a bit deeper as well | 19:35 |
| KilosKid | Okay, I have a question. | 19:35 |
| inetpro | KilosKid: shoot | 19:35 |
| KilosKid | How do I install my lexmark printer onto Linux? | 19:35 |
| inetpro | don't ask to ask just ask | 19:35 |
| magespawn | been working on that a bit, have the n900 so have it there, so can learn it on the go | 19:35 |
| KilosKid | I booted up my PC with the printer plugged in and installed | 19:36 |
| KilosKid | Hiya, magespawn. :) | 19:36 |
| magespawn | hey KilosKid | 19:36 |
| inetpro | KilosKid: and it's not working? | 19:36 |
| * inetpro enjoys his HP printer that just plugs in and just prints at the click of a button | 19:37 | |
| magespawn | hp and samsung are good for that | 19:37 |
| inetpro | a printer is one device that I will make absolutely sure that it works on Linux before I buy | 19:38 |
| KilosKid | Well | 19:38 |
| inetpro | make sure as well | 19:38 |
| KilosKid | I've had this printer for about three years | 19:38 |
| KilosKid | So I had it whilst I had XP | 19:38 |
| KilosKid | I just clicked 'print' to print a page from Firefox, but nothing happened | 19:38 |
| KilosKid | It didn't even tell me that a printer wasn't connected | 19:38 |
| inetpro | I honestly don't know lexmark, but I shall go google | 19:38 |
| inetpro | KilosKid: what model? | 19:39 |
| KilosKid | It is aaaaa.... | 19:39 |
| KilosKid | All In One X8350 | 19:39 |
| magespawn | have tried to install from printers? | 19:39 |
| superfly | KilosKid: you said its plugged in via USB? | 19:40 |
| KilosKid | Yeah | 19:40 |
| KilosKid | Hi Supahflahhh. :) | 19:40 |
| KilosKid | Figures my printer isn't on the 'tested' or 'needs retesting' list. How annoying. | 19:41 |
| * inetpro hates reading stuff like this: "I contacted Lexmark about the incompatibility with Linux and they have no interest in cooperating at all...." | 19:41 | |
| magespawn | idiots | 19:41 |
| KilosKid | O.o | 19:42 |
| magespawn | just give the community the code and we will get it done ourselves | 19:42 |
| KilosKid | lol | 19:42 |
| superfly | KilosKid: it doesn't have any networking capabilities, does it? | 19:43 |
| nuvolari | joh, 'commercial' printers are just as bad | 19:43 |
| magespawn | never really liked them any way, ink is too expensive | 19:43 |
| KilosKid | superfly: What do you mean? | 19:43 |
| nuvolari | we have an Olivetti at the office and to get the proper drivers for ubuntu was a nightmare | 19:43 |
| KilosKid | Hiya nuvolari :) | 19:43 |
| magespawn | hey nuvolari | 19:43 |
| superfly | KilosKid: my printer actually has a network port, and so it is plugged into my network rather than my PC | 19:43 |
| nuvolari | hellos KilosKid | 19:43 |
| KilosKid | Oh. | 19:43 |
| KilosKid | Let me see. | 19:44 |
| * nuvolari poses for some photographs with KilosKid and have them autographed | 19:44 | |
| KilosKid | Well, it's got a fax in it, so...? | 19:44 |
| KilosKid | lol nuvolari :P | 19:44 |
| nuvolari | howdy magespawn | 19:44 |
| superfly | KilosKid: some printers are easier to work with when they're on the network | 19:44 |
| nuvolari | how are you doing? | 19:44 |
| superfly | KilosKid: fax != network | 19:44 |
| KilosKid | Yay! | 19:44 |
| magespawn | lol | 19:44 |
| magespawn | good and you? | 19:45 |
| * inetpro agrees with superfly, a networked printer makes life so much easier | 19:45 | |
| KilosKid | But how can I put it on the network when I only have one interwebz cable? | 19:45 |
| inetpro | KilosKid: get a switch | 19:45 |
| KilosKid | What's a switch? | 19:45 |
| superfly | KilosKid: both your computer and your mom's plug into the same router, right? | 19:45 |
| nuvolari | magespawn: doing good... 2 days too many this week... but doing good :P | 19:45 |
| KilosKid | Yeah... | 19:45 |
| KilosKid | But mom's cable is aaaaall the way in her room, and the wire is pinned along the sides of the walls. | 19:46 |
| superfly | KilosKid: can you plug the printer into the router too? | 19:46 |
| KilosKid | Quite securely. | 19:46 |
| KilosKid | No | 19:46 |
| KilosKid | Because the router is in the kitchen | 19:46 |
| KilosKid | And I don't want my idiot housemate touching my stuff. | 19:46 |
| magespawn | lol | 19:46 |
| inetpro | lol | 19:46 |
| nuvolari | KilosKid: don't talk bad about people on the web, it might reach them in a million ways :P | 19:47 |
| KilosKid | Trust me, he wouldn't care. | 19:47 |
| magespawn | i think he means does it have a network port? | 19:47 |
| KilosKid | He doesn't care about anything but eating. | 19:47 |
| KilosKid | Yessss | 19:47 |
| KilosKid | It has two interwebz cable ports | 19:47 |
| inetpro | interesting that there are only two | 19:48 |
| magespawn | sure those are not phone cable ports? | 19:48 |
| magespawn | for the fax | 19:48 |
| nuvolari | a closeup pic could help? :P | 19:48 |
| magespawn | we are still talking about the printer | 19:49 |
| nuvolari | me too | 19:49 |
| nuvolari | sheesh, what are you thinking magespawn | 19:49 |
| nuvolari | *cough* | 19:49 |
| inetpro | KilosKid: when you have time you can read about a switch on wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_switch but for the moment don't just go out to buy one... it may not help you much for now | 19:49 |
| nuvolari | anyone here running analytics? | 19:50 |
| nuvolari | *google analytics | 19:50 |
| inetpro | nuvolari: I like blocking it with noscript | 19:51 |
| nuvolari | inetpro: oh, but I meant on the other side of the analytics :P being able to see the stats | 19:51 |
| inetpro | lol | 19:51 |
| inetpro | nuvolari: they look very impressive for managers | 19:52 |
| nuvolari | it keeps on 'killing' the browsers | 19:52 |
| nuvolari | both firefox and chrome | 19:52 |
| KilosKid | o.o | 19:53 |
| KilosKid | I dunno. They look the same. Could be phone, could be internet. | 19:54 |
| KilosKid | brb | 19:54 |
| inetpro | by the way KilosKid, I suggest the unregistered nick tarals for you, rather than KilosKid | 19:56 |
| inetpro | or go choose something else | 19:57 |
| inetpro | and then go register the address and set your irc client with that nick | 19:57 |
| inetpro | oops, register the nick* | 19:58 |
| magespawn | nuvolari: just making sure KilosKid and I are on the same page | 20:03 |
| magespawn | the lexmark spec sheet says the network ports are optional on that model | 20:04 |
| KilosKid | back | 20:08 |
| inetpro | KilosKid: sign the petition | 20:08 |
| inetpro | http://www.petitiononline.com/YALB1975/petition.html | 20:08 |
| KilosKid | What petition? | 20:08 |
| KilosKid | Oyes. | 20:09 |
| inetpro | To: All Printer Manufacturers not supporting the Linux Operating System | 20:09 |
| nuvolari | meh. bed is calling | 20:13 |
| nuvolari | 'night | 20:13 |
| KilosKid | Night, nuvolari. | 20:14 |
| magespawn | night nuvolari | 20:15 |
| KilosKid | I guess I may have to buy a new printer/scanner if I want to keep using Ubuntu, huh? | 20:18 |
| KilosKid | So I read about the "Spectrum Tools", but I'm still a little confused as to what it does. | 20:20 |
| === KilosKid is now known as TaraKilos | ||
| magespawn | never heard of them | 20:27 |
| TaraKilos | Okay, well... | 20:29 |
| magespawn | TaraKilos: do you have a nick you prefer? | 20:29 |
| TaraKilos | Printer issue is just gonna have to wait | 20:29 |
| TaraKilos | I don't care what my nick is. People just keep telling me to change it :P | 20:29 |
| magespawn | not sure why inetpro said that, but it is a good idea to register the one you like, then only you can use it | 20:31 |
| inetpro | TaraKilos: it just makes life easier if your name is not so similar to that of kilos | 20:33 |
| TaraKilos | Okay. One moment. | 20:33 |
| zeref | hmmmmmmmmmmm | 20:36 |
| inetpro | TaraLS: great! | 20:36 |
| inetpro | when I respond to you I just type ta and press tab and it will complete the nick for me for TaraLS | 20:36 |
| inetpro | if your nick is KilosKid the the completion can get confusing very quickly | 20:36 |
| TaraLS | Yep, I got it. | 20:36 |
| TaraLS | But. | 20:36 |
| TaraLS | There's a NickServ thingy.. | 20:36 |
| TaraLS | msg NickServ set email <your_email@address.org> | 20:37 |
| TaraLS | With a slash | 20:37 |
| TaraLS | Hooow do I use that? O.o | 20:37 |
| inetpro | you don't | 20:37 |
| TaraLS | That's how it says to register your name, though. | 20:37 |
| inetpro | it's for when the freenode guys have to contact you | 20:37 |
| inetpro | well, hang on | 20:37 |
| TaraLS | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto | 20:37 |
| TaraLS | Hm | 20:37 |
| inetpro | TaraLS: read this: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering | 20:38 |
| TaraLS | So I use : /msg NickServ REGISTER password youremail@example.com | 20:41 |
| TaraLS | ? | 20:41 |
| inetpro | yep | 20:41 |
| inetpro | well, Replace password with a secure, unguessable password that you keep secret. | 20:42 |
| * inetpro stating the obvious | 20:42 | |
| magespawn | no password is unguessable | 20:42 |
| magespawn | or rather un workable outable | 20:43 |
| inetpro | magespawn: uh | 20:43 |
| TaraLS | There we are. | 20:43 |
| TaraLS | I registered TaraLS | 20:43 |
| inetpro | cool, nice job | 20:43 |
| magespawn | hows that for mangling the english language | 20:43 |
| TaraLS | rofl | 20:43 |
| inetpro | now next time we can actually focus on the real problems :-) | 20:43 |
| TaraLS | Okay, so, seems like the printer issue is probably not fixable... | 20:44 |
| TaraLS | So next potentially fixable problem! | 20:44 |
| TaraLS | My speakers. | 20:44 |
| TaraLS | Only two play sound. When I had XP, all of them played sound. | 20:44 |
| TaraLS | I did have to download a soundblaster thingy thouh. | 20:44 |
| TaraLS | though* | 20:44 |
| magespawn | guessing implies randomness, workable outable means actually running through every combination | 20:44 |
| TaraLS | I selected in sound management to play through 5.1 channels | 20:44 |
| inetpro | superfly: you where saying about the speakers? | 20:44 |
| TaraLS | But it didn't make a difference | 20:44 |
| superfly | *were | 20:45 |
| superfly | just checking that they were plugged into the right sockets | 20:45 |
| inetpro | oops, right | 20:45 |
| TaraLS | Yeah. Mine definitely are. I'm not -that- computer-dense. :P | 20:45 |
| superfly | I don't really know much about setting up 5.1 sound unfortunately, I suffer with my monitor speakers | 20:45 |
| TaraLS | lol | 20:45 |
| magespawn | is it an add on sound card TaraLS? | 20:45 |
| TaraLS | Ummm | 20:46 |
| TaraLS | It doesn't look like it. | 20:46 |
| magespawn | then maybe check the mb manufacturers site | 20:46 |
| inetpro | TaraLS: what software are you using to play your music? Just for interest sake... | 20:47 |
| TaraLS | I'm using the default Rhythmbox. I used VLC once, though, and the sound didn't really change. | 20:47 |
| TaraLS | Lemme double check | 20:47 |
| inetpro | maybe we should ask jono in the #ubuntu-community-team about this when he is available that is | 20:49 |
| inetpro | I know he is a music guru of sorts | 20:49 |
| inetpro | and he will definitely know other experts in the field | 20:49 |
| TaraLS | Yeah, it plays through only two channels when in Rhythmbox and VLC | 20:50 |
| TaraLS | Ooh | 20:50 |
| inetpro | I have seen some very nifty music software on linux | 20:51 |
| inetpro | and if I remember correctly even superfly has suggested some fancy stuffs | 20:51 |
| superfly | Ardour is very fancy... rivals most of the commercial solutions | 20:52 |
| TaraLS | Ardour doesn't have confidence-building reviews, though | 20:53 |
| TaraLS | Besides, I'm not talking about recording software anyhoo. Just want to get all my speakers working. | 20:54 |
| inetpro | lol | 20:54 |
| inetpro | well I sure hope that we'll be able to get you there | 20:55 |
| magespawn | i am off to bed, night all | 20:56 |
| inetpro | TaraLS: btw, you should not believe all the reviews that you read, many of them are written by peeps with hidden agendas... best to try things for yourself | 20:58 |
| inetpro | magespawn: good night | 20:58 |
| TaraLS | I'm just paranoid about getting things that might mess up the computer. | 20:58 |
| TaraLS | I've had months and months of PC problems. | 20:58 |
| TaraLS | magespawn: Night. :) | 20:58 |
| inetpro | well you have done well to get here | 20:59 |
| inetpro | we don't charge you an arm and a leg in here | 21:00 |
| inetpro | all we need is patience | 21:00 |
| inetpro | bye vin[tab] | 21:01 |
| TaraLS | Well I've got plenty of patience. lol | 21:02 |
| inetpro | lol | 21:02 |
| TaraLS | My tablet's probably not gonna work either, huh? :( | 21:02 |
| inetpro | TaraLS: I'll talk to jono when I see him | 21:02 |
| TaraLS | inetpro, thanks much. | 21:03 |
| inetpro | or you could try contact him yourself | 21:04 |
| inetpro | his blog is at http://www.jonobacon.org/ | 21:04 |
| inetpro | a real nice approachable guy | 21:05 |
| inetpro | though I have not met him in person | 21:05 |
| superfly | TaraLS: this is Ubuntu/Linux, unless you wildly install software not available in Software Centre, you won't mess up your computer | 21:05 |
| inetpro | not easily at least | 21:06 |
| TaraLS | Okay. | 21:08 |
| TaraLS | Well a program like that would make my comp freeze anyway. :P | 21:08 |
| TaraLS | I have to sort out this freezing issue first. | 21:08 |
| inetpro | TaraLS: I agree | 21:09 |
| inetpro | seems like a real buggy hardware issue anyway | 21:09 |
| TaraLS | Yeah | 21:10 |
| TaraLS | I did the stresslinux test | 21:10 |
| TaraLS | It didn't show me anything by way of fail or success | 21:11 |
| TaraLS | And the CDROM was quiet for about an hour | 21:11 |
| TaraLS | With nothing happening, so I just stopped it. | 21:11 |
| inetpro | hmm | 21:12 |
| inetpro | yikes! where did the time go? | 21:23 |
| inetpro | TaraLS: please hold the fort for us | 21:23 |
| TaraLS | Okeydoke. O.o | 21:24 |
| inetpro | good night | 21:24 |
| TaraLS | Is MAC the same as Linux? | 21:26 |
| TaraLS | Or is MAC its own OS? | 21:26 |
| zeref | hurrrmmmm | 21:34 |
| zeref | Mac is "based" on BSD | 21:35 |
| TaraLS | What's BSD? | 21:35 |
| zeref | but Apple have made so many changes to the kernel | 21:35 |
| TaraLS | Reason I ask is because GIMP is in Ubuntu, and I wanted to get GIMPshop, the one that is GIMP but looks like Photoshop. | 21:35 |
| zeref | that you could say its not BSD | 21:35 |
| TaraLS | But it only has "Windows" or "Mac" download. | 21:35 |
| zeref | www.bsd.org | 21:36 |
| zeref | heeehhhh | 21:36 |
| zeref | sudo apt-get install gimp? | 21:37 |
| zeref | TaraLS: Gimp will be all you need | 21:39 |
| zeref | unless you use it profenssionally | 21:40 |
| zeref | is that how you spell it? | 21:40 |
| TaraLS | I just wanted GIMPShop because it has the Photoshop interface | 21:47 |
| TaraLS | Which I prefer. | 21:47 |
| TaraLS | professionally? | 21:47 |
| TaraLS | I think | 21:47 |
| superfly | TaraLS: Well, GIMP these days looks and acts more like PS, and I think that GIMPShop is not really maintained much... certainly not on Linux. On top of that, I think you can install PhotoShop keybindings into GIMP | 21:51 |
| TaraLS | What's a keybinding? | 21:51 |
| superfly | TaraLS: the shortcuts keys are configurable | 21:55 |
| superfly | so a set of shortcuts is sometimes called a keybinding | 21:56 |
| TaraLS | Oh. I don't even use shortcut keys. | 21:57 |
| TaraLS | Hey guys | 22:27 |
| TaraLS | Can I just use my CDROM to install my Genius tablet? | 22:27 |
| zeref | o0o0o0 | 22:35 |
| zeref | what do you mean? | 22:35 |
| TaraLS | What do you mean what do I mean? | 22:53 |
| TaraLS | I have a tablet and it came with an installation CD. | 22:53 |
| TaraLS | Can I use that CD on Ubuntu to install the tablet driver? | 22:53 |
| superfly | No, that only has the Windows driver. Check in your system settings to see if you can configure your tablet in the same place you configure your mouse. | 22:57 |
| superfly | I don't use Ubuntu (I use its cousin Kubuntu) so I can't tell you exactly where to find the configuration window, just that there should be one somewhere. | 22:57 |
| * superfly goes to bed | 22:58 | |
| TaraLS | Okeydokey | 23:00 |
| TaraLS | superfly: Niiight, Supahflahhh. | 23:01 |
| TaraLS | I found a way to install a printer | 23:06 |
| TaraLS | And I selected Lexmark | 23:06 |
| TaraLS | But it doesn't have my model there. | 23:06 |
| TaraLS | Go figure. | 23:06 |
| TaraLS | HEAPS of others, but not mine. | 23:06 |
| * TaraLS pulls hair out. | 23:06 | |
| KilosKid | Comp froze. | 23:16 |
| KilosKid | And bah. It says, "TaraLS already in use." | 23:16 |
| === KilosKid is now known as TaraLS | ||
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