[04:28] Anyone in here? [06:10] hi superfly and others [06:11] morning Kilos [06:11] all good there at home superfly ? [06:11] Kilos: mostly [06:12] aw mostly? [06:12] supposed to be all good [06:12] Just the usual family growing pains... working out how to deal with things [06:12] ai [06:13] and life is so much faster than it used to be [06:14] and you guys dont get enough sleep [06:14] worse with small kids as well. they sleep when it suits them and expect the same from you [06:14] sleep when it suits them that is [06:15] but keep good records and one day you can look back and have a good laugh [06:16] or beat them up when they grown [06:16] hehe [06:16] * Kilos keeps quiet now or the pro will say i talk to much [06:17] * superfly went to bed after 1am last night [06:17] eish [06:18] As I said to mrs_fly last night though, if I must go to bed at 1am so that my children can spend the evening with their father, then I will. It is better for me to be tired than for them to grow up without a father. [06:20] yip i agree but it gets you to a real poegaai state [06:22] Kilos: Well, if that's what it takes, then that is what it takes. I chose to be a father, I accept the responsibility and I will put my children first. [06:22] heres a new site for those interested [06:22] http://www.androidquestions.org/forum.php [06:22] good man [06:23] store up blessings in heaven not here [06:23] hi [06:23] hi Squirm [06:32] yo Squirm, Vince-0 [06:33] lo Vince-0 [06:33] pc took 15 mins to boot today [06:33] got a sick sata 160g plugged in as second drive [06:34] shows in bios and gparted shows it as unallocated [06:34] so trying the gpart recovery tool [06:34] Haai! [06:37] oh is there a command whereby i can clone this drive onto the second drive and will it clone the mbr as well [06:37] Kilos: dd, but you don't want to use that [06:38] i mean is there one i can use [06:38] only dd i use at times is the drive zero one [06:43] found this superfly but not sure if it will do mbr boot and all [06:43] rsync -avx --progress / /new-disk/ [06:44] Kilos: no, rsync only looks at files on a file system, not raw bytes [06:44] ah ty misleading link then [06:44] http://superuser.com/questions/307541/copy- [07:41] ian was called out at midnight . office/workshop had been broken into and got back at 3am so also tired today [08:58] hi Tonberry timkeller [08:58] Hi Kilos [08:59] evening inetpro [09:02] hi [09:11] ohi KilosKid [09:11] Yo. [10:40] good morning Kilos [10:41] lol [10:42] Kilos: where is kiloskid in Australia, as in what timezone? [10:42] in aus 8 or 9 hours ahead of us [10:43] shes coming [10:43] dont just lurk KilosKid say hi or something [10:44] KilosKid: good morning, what town are you in? [10:44] melbourne [10:44] Yo [10:44] lol Kilos, that's funny. Everyone else is lurking. :P [10:45] * inetpro putting the timezone for Melbourne on tzwatch [10:45] they are working mostly [10:46] and peek to see if anything interesting is happening now and again [10:47] KilosKid: would that be EDT (Eastern Daylight Time)? [10:47] Yep. :) [10:47] It's currently 21:47pm [10:47] obviously it's pm.... [10:47] still 8 ahead [10:47] when they move away [10:48] oh no its 9 [10:49] weird how they move the country closer and further in winter and summer [10:49] lol [10:49] we stay stable all year [10:49] KilosKid: every time you say hi, I'm not at my desk, and then just as I get to my desk, you disappeared :-P [10:51] SUPAHflahhhh. [10:51] I did the whole "leave comp on login page for overnight" [10:51] For about eight hours [10:51] It didn't freeze. [10:51] But, my comp doesn't freeze anymore anyway when I just leave it on its own [10:52] Typically, when I leave it alone, I close everything anyway. [10:52] OK, so that's a step in the right direction [10:54] How so? [10:54] Just insofar as troubleshooting further? [10:54] it's not just freezing anytime [10:54] It was freezing when I was using dash [10:54] And then Kilos had me do a thingy that auto-configured stuff to avoid clashes [10:54] And I think it's okay now [10:54] OK [10:54] Kilos: ^^ autoconfigure? [10:55] dpkg --configure -a [10:55] all i could think of [10:55] When I had Windows, my art program (photoshop) and music program were installed, and they were also causing the comp to freeze (along with Youtube). [10:55] I'd imagine that the problem is the same. If I installed GIMP and my music program, chances are it would still freeze [10:56] I just only check Youtube because I know that as long as Youtube is freezing, so too will those two big programs [10:56] KilosKid: you never know until you try [10:56] Also, the last time I installed my music program, Windows blue screened the ULTIMATE blue screen and I had to reformat. [10:56] So... Yes. [10:56] I don't want to install anything until I fix this issue. [10:56] what is your music program? [10:57] It's what came with my microphone [10:57] Avid Pro Tools SE. [10:57] oh right [10:57] superfly, is there a stress tester one can use to pinpoint the prob area of the hardware [10:57] somewhere in mb methinks [10:57] There's something called MPrime that stresses the CPU [10:58] Right now, it's looking like it might be the PSU, CPU, or motherboard. [10:58] KilosKid: sorry if I don't respond, trying to work here as well [10:58] That's alright. [11:00] i actually have a stress cd somewhere but couldnt use it because it asked for a password [11:00] grrr [11:01] lol [11:01] awe [11:01] KilosKid: You might want to try Ardour as an alternative to Pro Tools [11:02] BTW the timezone I had to add for tzwatch was for 'Australia/Sydney' [11:02] * inetpro enjoys tzwatch [11:02] Oooh [11:02] That works, inetpro. Sydney is on the east coast too, right above Victoria/Melb. [11:03] Its three reviews don't instill confidence. [11:03] I just enter tzwatch on the cli and it shows me all the multiple zones I have entered so far (of people I know in the different regions) [11:03] I would like to get tzwatch [11:04] sudo aptitude install tzwatch [11:04] Maaz, google stress linux cd download [11:04] Kilos: "Stresslinux" http://www.stresslinux.org/ :: "Linux Stress Testing and Benchmarking - Overclockers Forums" http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=486495 :: "Download StressLinux 0.7.106 for Linux - A minimal Linux ..." http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Operating-Systems/Linux-Distributions/StressLinux-2070.shtml :: "Download StressLinux [11:04] v0.7.106 (64-bit) live CD Torrent | 1337x.org" http://1337x.org/torrent/386728/StressLinux-v0… [11:04] a very simple small yet effective little utility [11:05] Thanks inetpro [11:06] use 'tzwatch -c' to configure [11:06] inetpro: apt-get, aptitude doesn't work with multiarch [11:07] superfly: multiarch? [11:07] superfly: KilosKid not on Ubuntu? [11:07] inetpro: yup, we've moved away from ia32-libs to multiarch [11:08] hang on, let me understand that [11:08] inetpro: Yes, I'm using Ubuntu. [11:08] superfly: what do you mean with that? [11:08] *confused* [11:08] * KilosKid is confused. [11:08] Ehem. [11:08] inetpro: linux used to have a system called ia32-libs in order to install 32-bit libraries on 64-bit linux. [11:09] KilosKid: just ignore us for the moment, we're talking geeky technical details :-) [11:09] superfly: lol, I'll say. :P [11:09] and you can no longer aptitude because of that? [11:09] The tzwatch worked with aptitude though. [11:09] Is it supposed to have me work out the time zone settings in the terminal? [11:10] KilosKid: yep [11:10] inetpro: but as of 12.04 and 12.10, Ubuntu has moved to use multiarch instead... so you install a 32bit package via apt-get install package-name:i386 [11:10] hmm... [11:10] Okay, so should I install this Stresslinux thingy? [11:10] * inetpro will have to read some more about that... later [11:10] inetpro: unfortunately aptitude is unable to deal with multiarch at the moment (I believe they are working on it) so it is safer to install software using apt-get if you are on a 64-bit system [11:10] superfly: thanks for the heads up [11:11] What bit is my system? [11:11] My Windows was 32 bit [11:11] inetpro: aptitude nearly destroyed my PC when I upgraded to 12.04 [11:11] So does that mean that my system is 32 bit, or? [11:11] KilosKid: most likely 32bit [11:11] KilosKid: I don't know, but most likely [11:12] KilosKid: what you can do is to download StreeLinux, and then run it from CD [11:12] * inetpro back to work, will be back later [11:12] Toodles, inetpro. [11:12] Superfly: StreeLinux? [11:12] ag, StressLinux [11:12] That forum, btw, just confused me. My poor brain. I've got PC-terms overload. [11:13] KilosKid: it looks quite technical though, so you'll probably want to double-check with us before you do anything [11:13] Okay, I will download StressLinux. Should I get it from the download link on the website, or using synaptic/ternimal? [11:14] KilosKid: http://www.stresslinux.org/sl/wiki/Documentation [11:14] KilosKid: it's another version of Linux, like Ubuntu, but you run it from the CD [11:15] Like... Another OS? [11:17] lol [11:17] KilosKid: yup, it's built on the same foundation as Ubuntu though [11:17] Why do I want another OS though? [11:17] KilosKid: you don't, as such. StressLinux just allows you to boot up a CD and use that CD to test your hardware. Once you're done you reboot and go back to using Ubuntu [11:18] * inetpro could not help notice that reaction from KilosKid [11:18] KilosKid: check http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=popularity [11:18] inetpro: let [11:18] Okay. [11:18] it's a new world [11:18] *let's not overwhelm the lass now, OK? [11:18] :-) [11:18] ok... I'll stay out of it [11:18] Is cdrecord already on my Ubuntu, or do I have to manually go get it? [11:19] KilosKid: You should be able to download the ISO file, and then just right-click on it and select "Burn to CD" [11:19] Okay. [11:19] lol [11:19] if you need anything else, Ubuntu *should* take care of it automatically. [11:19] superfly: And where do I download it from? [11:19] What are you lolling at, Kilos? [11:20] the probs reaction to why would you want another os [11:20] KilosKid: http://www.stresslinux.org/sl/downloads/52 [11:20] I see. [11:20] that should probably be the right one for you [11:21] I have to open it with Archive Manager. Is there any problem with that, or can I go ahead? [11:21] KilosKid: like I said, this is all very technical, so take it easy, and if you're unsure of anything rather ask us first [11:21] you didnt try running ubuntu from cd so you dont know you can actually run it from cd on a winsucks pc just to try it [11:21] KilosKid: that should be OK [11:21] I ran Ubuntu from a flash drive, yeah.' [11:21] Because it's too huge for my CDs [11:21] Does that mean this other OS is gonna be massive too? [11:21] I don't know how an external OS is supposed to be able to test the hardware... [11:21] big enough to fit on a CD [11:22] I'm not worried about big -enough-. I'm worried about -too- big. [11:22] KilosKid: don't worry, it will :-) [11:22] you set bios to boot from cd and then use it from there [11:22] I have 700mb CDs. Ubuntu 12.10 is 765ish [11:22] I know, Kilos. [11:22] Okay superfly. how long is it supposed to take, and what should I be keeping an eye out for? [11:22] Will it write a report? [11:23] it will show you on screen whats happpening [11:23] KilosKid: it'll take a little while, it first has to download the zip file, then unzip it, and then you'll be able to burn it to CD [11:23] I mean [11:23] Not that part [11:23] When it actually is running and testing the hardware. [11:23] oh... I don't know. [11:24] Alright. [11:24] I've never seen StressLinux before today [11:24] is that link an iso download superfly [11:24] Kilos: It's a gzipped ISO [11:25] uh, I mean, a bzip2'ed ISO [11:25] ok then Kilos you unzip it [11:25] extract right where you open it [11:25] then right click that file and use [11:25] um [11:25] eish [11:25] brasero to burn to cd [11:26] i mean brat not me [11:26] Oh. [11:26] 227 mbs. That's not bad. [11:26] lol [11:26] KilosKid: it still needs to unzip though [11:26] I know. [11:26] So the general idea is... [11:27] double click it [11:27] Kilos, shh. [11:27] then tick extract [11:27] You're saying things I know already :P [11:27] KilosKid: shh man, sy praat. [11:27] ok go ahead [11:27] lol [11:27] ag, Kilos [11:27] you know, it's flippin difficult to tab-complete to the right one of you two [11:27] Anyhoo... When running this thing, it will load the PC (etc, emulating big processes like using Youtube or a photo program, etc), and essentially trying to make the comp freeze, and then it will log what hardware caused the freeze? [11:28] WHAT IF IT COMES BACK WITH NO HARDWARE ISSUES? [11:28] Then I'm screwed. We've done all the software troubleshooting that's in existence, surely. [11:29] Besides, it shouldn't be software-related since I have had this freezing problem in two different OSes, and none of the same software. [11:29] KilosKid: something like that [11:29] yes, I also reckon it is a hardware issue [11:29] * inetpro agrees, she needs another name [11:29] Okay. [11:29] How about... [11:29] KidKilos [11:29] :D [11:29] Therefore, Kid is first. [11:30] ai... about something with a k [11:30] Wait one, I go change it. [11:30] I mean without a k [11:30] BabyKilos? [11:30] SpawnofKilos? [11:30] sjoe nee [11:30] I'd put BratKilos, but I think Kilos would like that one too much. [11:31] make it a nice name [11:31] hehe [11:31] TaraLynnKilos. [11:31] How do I change it without logging out/in? [11:31] type /nick and a new name === KilosKid is now known as TaraLynnKilos [11:32] Yay [11:32] whew poor peeps without tab complete [11:33] ya that's a bit long but better than KilosKid === TaraLynnKilos is now known as TaraKilos [11:33] Eish, there. [11:33] brat is good [11:33] Kilos, pay attention to your PIdgin, please. [11:33] hmm [11:33] anyway... go on with the super fly issues [11:34] soooo cheeky [11:35] I asked nicely. Bah. [11:35] lol [11:38] Whew. [11:38] 154KBs/ps [11:38] Stupid slow interwebs [11:39] try gprs [11:39] Where? [11:39] you lucky to get to 40kB/s [11:39] Oh [11:39] lol [11:39] I thowwy. [11:39] when you use fone as modem [11:40] Oh, nope. [11:40] The chat is still there in the window. [11:40] There used to be an option "Clear IM chat" or something [11:40] how can it come back [11:40] it must clear [11:41] I opened a different window. [11:41] I think I have the settings set to "keep chat" [11:41] One moment [11:41] oh you have to close each one you want clear [11:41] I know. [11:41] That's not working [11:41] The other one was clear because nothing had been typed [11:41] restart pidgin then all gone [11:43] Blah. [11:43] Okeydoke. [11:45] Oh, also [11:45] superfly: How do I install drivers for my Lexmark All-In-One printer? [11:46] did you boot with it plugged kiddo [11:46] TaraKilos: How is your printer plugged in? [11:47] USB. [11:47] I haven't plugged it in [11:47] Actually [11:48] I ran my comp from when it had been on all night, not logged in [11:48] And then inside five mins of plugging in the printer, it froze [11:48] I will restart with it plugged in and see what happens [11:48] For now though, where do I extract StressLinux to? [11:48] right where you open it [11:48] So back into its own folder? [11:48] on desktop or in the same file [11:49] ya [11:49] you said you know [11:49] * Kilos sighs [11:49] I think I'll extract to Desktop [11:49] hehe [11:49] I said I know to right click and select extract [11:49] yip thats good [11:49] I was asking now if there was a specific place I should extract it to [11:49] Sheesh [11:50] Okay, brb. [11:50] once extracted [11:50] wait [11:50] have you burned it already [11:50] the what what? Tara herself? or oom kilos? [11:51] you right click and go open with [11:51] brasero [11:52] It's still extracting [11:52] I will be back in about forty-five mins [11:53] sjoe [11:53] sy ook nuvolari [11:54] she can actually change nick to tara now [11:54] everyone knows she be my brat [11:55] those that dont can read logs [11:55] shame [11:55] ty superfly and inetpro [11:56] together we will get to the bottom o the prob and find a solution' [11:56] we have a celebrity in the house! [11:58] ya but a stubborn one [11:58] i was never like that [12:07] * Kilos cries [12:07] howdy [12:07] input/output error during write on /dev/sda1 [12:07] hiya magespawn [12:07] hi magespawn [12:08] sure mister 52 clean installs [12:08] near the end of detecting file system on 2 TB drive [12:08] lol you also getting cheeky [12:08] hey superfly kilos [12:09] wait till i'm really tired like i will be on monday [12:09] aw wassup\ [12:09] gonna be driving for 900 or so kms [12:09] i still know some of the mafia in natal so np [12:09] whew [12:10] where going [12:10] taking game away? [12:11] three round trips hluhluwe - richards bay - mbazwana * 3 [12:11] the kid still getting the pc working i see [12:12] ya slowly [12:13] looks like she inherited murphys law from me [12:15] Maaz, murphys law [12:15] If something can give trouble, rest assured, it will [12:18] Maaz: coffee on [12:18] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [12:20] gotta go people are here [12:20] toods magespawn [12:20] go safe [12:21] Maaz, coffee please [12:21] Kilos: Sure [12:22] Coffee's ready for Squirm and Kilos! [12:22] Maaz, ty [12:22] You are welcome Kilos [13:11] Murphy's Law needs to go down to the very most horriblest pit of Hell and stay there. [13:11] Suffering immeasurable torture. [13:11] For eternity. [13:12] lol [13:12] Okay, my thingy extracted to the desktop. Can I just burn it to CD now? [13:13] ya right click and open with brasero [13:14] It says my disc has 469mbs of free space. But... these are 700mb discs. Whaaaat. [13:14] TaraKilos: you choose the right one? [13:14] TaraKilos: and did you select the .iso file, or the .bzr2 file? [13:14] No. Sorry. I mean, Brasero says that my blank CD-R disc has 496MB space. [13:15] I have no idea. When I clicked the link you gave me, it automatically popped up a 'save this file' box. [13:15] Oh. [13:15] It says it's iso [13:16] thats the freesapce that will be left over [13:17] Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [13:17] That makes perfect sense. [13:17] Thanks Kilos, for helping me overcome that blonde moment [13:17] lol [13:17] yw [13:20] Download the iso image and extract the bzip2 compressed archive. [13:20] Burn the .iso file with your favourite cd-r application. [13:20] Boot your target system with newly created disc. [13:20] At first login with user: stress and password: stress [13:20] Keyboard layout select will start, select your prefered keyboard layout [13:20] The next dialog shows sl-wizard, which allows you to load predefined lm_sensor configurations. If your mainboard is not listed, select Cancel. [13:20] If sensors configuration got loaded and works, then you will see sensor readings on TTY12 (STRG+F12) [13:20] Switching to TTY11 will show harddisk temprature readings, if a valid drive is detected. [13:20] TTY10 shows you ethernet throughput on eth0 (needs working dhcp server on your network) [13:20] Tools for testing your system are listed in the motd. For little help on these tools type --help [13:20] If you need to login into stresslinux via ssh, use the user "stress" with password "stress" . Use 'sudo -i' to get root rights. [13:20] If you want to rerun sl-wizard, then execute "rm /tmp/sensors". Now run sl-wizard.sh. [13:21] .... Good lord. [13:21] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1360223/ [13:21] That's hurt-my-brain territory [13:21] cant you do it with brasero [13:21] Everything up to step 7 makes sense. [13:22]