[00:00] <bkc_> chris__333: o/
[00:00] <GeorgeTorwell> I kinda wish I had stuck to 12.04, it ran smoothly
[00:00] <jrib> !plymouth | vooze
[00:00] <chris__333> bkc_: :)
[00:01] <babyswizz> pls my vlc player does not produce any sound when trying to play an mp3 file on ubuntu 12.10 but when i test my speakers they bring out sound what can i do
[00:02] <vooze> thx jrib ;)
[00:02] <chris__333> I was told that if you run games like world of warcraft, Quake, Neocron or any other big fast game out there it will run faster and better on linux than windows. Is this true?
[00:03] <kosaidpo> how can i remove THE OTHER entry from my menu in lxde ?
[00:03] <chris__333> or is it better on windows?
[00:03] <babyswizz> pls my vlc player does not produce any sound when trying to play an mp3 file on ubuntu 12.10 but when i test my speakers they bring out sound what can i do
[00:03] <chris__333> can someone please answer me
[00:04] <georgeph> chris...there are  a few games for linux but i don't know if anyone wants to spend any money on linux
[00:04] <chris__333> no like windows games
[00:04] <georgeph> chris...kinda defeats the free issue
[00:04] <chris__333> like world of warcraft
[00:04] <blackshirt> chris__333, some statetement yes .. If that games run natively on linux, i think exactly yes
[00:04] <bkc_> !patience | babyswizz
[00:05] <chris__333> blackshirt: thank you. i thought so
[00:05] <georgeph> cris...you might try drascula on dosbox or scummvm for linux
[00:05] <bkc_> babyswizz: I'd start by testing something else in VLC, after that open the settings(preferences) in VLC and tried setting the audio-output to something else?
[00:05] <bkc_> :)
[00:05] <chris__333> some people play world of warcraft or black hawk down on linux even though it's meant for windows. I was told to do it under linux and it will run smoother. i didnt know if they were lying.
[00:05] <blackshirt> chris_333, i don't play a bit with that games before
[00:06] <jrib> chris__333: why don't you just try it and see if it works well enough for you?
[00:06] <chris__333> oh ok
[00:06] <bkc_> babyswizz: and try to set the audio-output to something else* (added to the beginning without changing the latter ^.^)
[00:06] <georgeph> chris...try out drascula on scummvm for linux it is free
[00:06] <chris__333> jrib: yea i'm probably going to try that. I was told to use something called "wine" to run windows games
[00:06] <jrib> !wine | chris__333
[00:06] <bkc_> chris__333: sudo apt-get install wine ; http://aps.winehq.org
[00:06] <MIH1406> I have Ubuntu 12.10 that stops on a console in **boot up** asking for a login information but it will never reach the GUI system (GNOME3 or Unity)
[00:06] <bkc_> apps.winehq.org*
[00:07] <chris__333> thank you very much for your time
[00:07] <chris__333> everyone ;)
[00:07] <bkc_> chris__333: np, that's why we are here you know ;P
[00:09] <georgeph> wow that nvidia 6200 is a joke...it is the worst driver they have ever produced and it is not  even close to recent versions of vertex and pixel shaders
[00:10] <Guest48295> exit
[00:10] <bkc_> georgeph: what? 6200 is a HW model afaik, not a driver :/
[00:11] <vooze> jrib: did not have any effect.. I tryed both pressing 1 (gnome-ubuntu-remix) and 2 (standard ubuntu) still xubuntu login and logout images
[00:11] <georgeph> bkc yeah the driver for the gpu just really sucks or maybe it is the gpu itself that is very defective.
[00:11] <bkc_> georgeph: the driver isn't bad... the GPU is...
[00:12] <jrib> vooze: you mean the images during boot up right?  not the image behind where you type your password to login?
[00:12] <georgeph> bkc plus it has way way old vertex shader 1.1 and pixel shader 1.4...way way out of date
[00:12] <bkc_> georgeph: indeed... that's the HW... not the SW...
[00:12] <vooze> jrib: yeah :) NOT the lightdm images...
[00:12] <georgeph> bkc...that is one of their worst products ever
[00:12] <jrib> vooze: and you remembered to run « sudo update-initramfs -u »?
[00:13] <georgeph> bkc...just scrounging around in junk piles it is hard to find anything useful
[00:13] <vooze> i just cant the whole command yes
[00:13] <bkc_> georgeph: it's an OLD as (censor) low-budget INTEGRATED gpu... what did you really expect? (no offence, just irritated at people who talks outside proper context)
[00:14] <georgeph> bkc_ well i was trying to get full opengl2.0 capability at a low low low price
[00:14] <vooze> I just wrote **
[00:14] <georgeph> bkc but this junk pile stuff just doesn't cut it
[00:14] <diverdude> can i use the lexmark officeedge pro5500 from my ubuntu machine?
[00:15] <bkc_> georgeph: and it's EOL so don't expect the drivers to get any better... the driver doesn't add any new magical functions that makes it up to standards with todays gfx-cards...
[00:15] <bkc_> georgeph: then you made a bad judgement-call... you're fault, not nvidias...
[00:15] <Deivid> georgeph, I just switched back to 12.04
[00:15] <Deivid> I was the guy with internet problems
[00:15] <vooze> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1359255/
[00:15] <georgeph> bkc well there used to be a company called sci tech or something that could write software accelerators for older gl hardware but they disappeared
[00:16] <noiro> Anyone here know why when I remove Eclipse from the Software Center and add it again, it has old default settings?
[00:16] <jrib> vooze: don't know; that should work afaik
[00:16] <georgeph> bkc..they were trying to make the older hardware run newer gl versions
[00:16] <Deivid> noiro, u need to use purge in terminal
[00:16] <Deivid> it will remove all the settings
[00:16] <georgeph> bkc but they disappeared
[00:16] <noiro> Deivid, if I try to purge it, it only offers to purge 172kb. :P
[00:16] <bkc_> georgeph: SW-acceleration (like for instance Mesa pre-gallium3D) is slow. period. doesn't have ANYTHING on a modern card on any CPU...
[00:16] <vooze> jrib: yeah okay, thx anyway :)
[00:16] <noiro> Eclipse is at least 300mb
[00:17] <Deivid> then search for hidden dir
[00:17] <bkc_> georgeph: I can see why they disappered... it can't be done on todays CPUs...
[00:17] <XiaolinDraconis> booted live distro archbang, installed but skipped bootloader step, rebooted into buntu, mounted arch partitions, ran commands os-prober and update-grub, rebooted and no arch. what went wrong??
[00:17] <diverdude> can i use the lexmark officeedge pro5500 from my ubuntu machine?
[00:17] <georgeph> bkc_ well i am not spending any money for anything unless i find some cheap junk in the junk piles
[00:17] <noiro> Deivid.....how?
[00:17] <bkc_> georgeph: and quite frankly, I can't see how it can ever be done... ever...
[00:17] <bkc_> georgeph: then that's your problem...
[00:18] <georgeph> bkc_ yeah been a problem for many many many years but some people are still using the xt so i am not alone with junk stuff
[00:19] <korn788> hello im wanting to know if you can share your wireless connection to the enthernet card
[00:19] <georgeph> bkc plus sun was trying to keep 20 year old computers working too
[00:19] <georgeph> bkc a lot of us dont want to spend a dime unless something comes along in the junk piles for peanuts
[00:19] <bkc_> georgeph: I can relate... My current dev-machine is an old ThinkPad T43 from 2005... but your point is still WRONG
[00:20] <Radikal08> Hellom I need to format my macbook harddrive. Is there any program to do that? I have connected it to my computer using a docking station
[00:20] <bkc_> georgeph: and what did happen too Sun Enterprice exactly ;)
[00:20] <gordonjcp> bkc_: my current laptop is a Macbook 3,1 (Late 2007) that cost me £100 ;-)
[00:21] <Deivid> noiro
[00:21] <gordonjcp> bkc_: it's probably the fastest machine I own at the moment; although my P4 3GHz desktop may be clocked faster it has less memory
[00:21] <Deivid> ctrl h in home folder
[00:21] <Deivid> any eclipse folder over there?
[00:21] <bkc_> gordonjcp: Have one of those at home actually, found it in a junk pile :D just need a new flexcable between the LogicBoard and the IO-Board :)
[00:21] <Deivid> or "rm -r ~/.eclipse"
[00:21] <babyswizz> please my rhythmbox player as an import error which says that additional GStreamer plugins are required to play mp3 files. what can i do
[00:22] <korn788> hello im wanting to know if you can share your wireless connection to the enthernet card
[00:22] <bkc_> gordonjcp: awesome thing with that one is that it has a OpenGL 2.1 card with geometryshader support <3
[00:22] <bkc_> korn788: yes
[00:22] <georgeph> at least the junk pile stuff doesn't have that trusted platform drm stuff
[00:22] <gordonjcp> georgeph: this is where ARM is going to win out
[00:22] <georgeph> or that secure boot stuff
[00:22] <korn788> how would i go about doing this
[00:22] <kostkon> !restricted | babyswizz
[00:22] <bkc_> georgeph: actually TPM and SecureBoot aren't that common...
[00:23] <gordonjcp> georgeph: the Chinese MIPS-based machines are just going to get better and better, too
[00:23] <georgeph> gordon  maybe...but arms greatest advantage is to start sandboxing everything to try and cut down repair bills from viruses and malware
[00:23] <kostkon> babyswizz, just install the "ubuntu-restricted-extras" in the software centre.
[00:23] <bkc_> gordonjcp: SecureBoot is basically made for ARM... so I can't see how that point is valid :)
[00:23] <kostkon> package*
[00:23] <gordonjcp> bkc_: just flash your own firmware on
[00:23] <gordonjcp> bkc_: if you don't like the hardware, get some that you *do* like built
[00:24] <babyswizz> kostkon, i have installed it
[00:24] <bkc_> gordonjcp: sure, but I'm talking about OEM here :)
[00:24] <georgeph> gordon when they phase out win32...and go to strictly winrt apps it may reduce customers repair bills
[00:24] <gordonjcp> bkc_: <shrug>
[00:24] <gordonjcp> bkc_: I'm getting a batch of 50 custom ARM devices made
[00:24] <kostkon> babyswizz, what kind of files are you trying to import
[00:24] <babyswizz> mp3
[00:24] <bkc_> georgeph: 'scuse me... are you a Troll? ^.^
[00:24] <gordonjcp> bkc_: Cortex A8, 2GB RAM, 32GB flash, SATA and HDMI
[00:24] <Rallias> Is there anything like a virtualbox dynamic container I can use for regular storage?
[00:24] <gordonjcp> bkc_: 40 quid a pop
[00:24] <babyswizz> kostkon, mp3
[00:24] <georgeph> bkc no not really just trying to get some stuff working
[00:24] <bkc_> gordonjcp: sound's like an iDevice :P
[00:25] <bkc_> nvm ^.^
[00:25] <bkc_> didn't se the SATA&HDMI-part :P
[00:25] <gordonjcp> bkc_: you ring up a Chinese fab house, point them at a datasheet, and say "build me the reference design"
[00:25] <kostkon> babyswizz, hmmm
[00:25] <gordonjcp> bkc_: boom, eight weeks later a box gets dropped off at your workshop
[00:26] <bkc_> gordonjcp: that works :)
[00:26] <korn788> im trying not to be rude but is there a link or something
[00:26] <gordonjcp> bkc_: we are entering a very exciting time, with lots of ridiculously powerful cheap devices coming out
[00:26] <gordonjcp> bkc_: Windows 8 "Secure Boot" is already dead
[00:27] <gordonjcp> bkc_: contrary to popular belief, Chinese people aren't stupid
[00:27] <kostkon> babyswizz, just to be sure, give in the terminal:  apt-cache policy ubuntu-restricted-extras  and confirm that the Installed section shows the installed version.
[00:27] <gordonjcp> bkc_: put yourself in China in a factory making ARM tablets.  Now, are you going to pay money to Microsoft for Windows 8 certification, so you can then pay money to Microsoft for an unpopular niche OS?
[00:28] <bkc_> gordonjcp: that I do know (chinese people aren't stupid part that is)
[00:28] <bkc_> indeed
[00:28] <gordonjcp> bkc_: by the way, your software guy has Android 4 running already, in the time we've been having this conversation
[00:28] <bkc_> bad marketing is bad indeed :P
[00:28] <gordonjcp> oh look, the bkc_Tablet ships with Android 4 as stock!
[00:30] <kostkon> !ot | gordonjcp
[00:31] <korn788> hello im wanting to know if you can share your wireless connection to the enthernet card
[00:31] <babyswizz> kostkon, Installed:57 Candidate57 Version table:*** 57  0 that was what came out
[00:32] <kostkon> babyswizz, could you paste the whole output on paste.ubuntu.com
[00:34] <M13> what are some desktop environments for ubuntu?
[00:35] <M13> there was like this debian one I liked a lot
[00:35] <M13> it had the debian start botton
[00:35] <M13> does anyone know how to get that desktop env.
[00:35] <M13> ?
[00:36] <babyswizz> kostkon, its at paste.ubuntu.com/1359284/
[00:36] <M13> please help
[00:36] <kostkon> babyswizz, hmm that's strange. how did you install the package? do you remember?
[00:37] <Magiobiwan> M13: If you want to use KDE, you need Kubuntu
[00:37] <M13> no
[00:37] <Magiobiwan> Still supported here, it just has KDE
[00:37] <M13> its not KDE
[00:37] <Magiobiwan> LXDE?
[00:37] <Magiobiwan> Xfce?
[00:37] <M13> no its like this debian env.
[00:38] <M13> the start said debian
[00:38] <babyswizz> kostkon, i downloaded the deb file and i ran sudo dpkg -i packagename in the terminal
[00:38] <M13> it was like a Debian 3 env
[00:38] <kostkon> babyswizz, what didn't you install it using the software centre?
[00:38] <Magiobiwan> I'm pretty sure Debian 3 uses KDE
[00:39] <M13> i cant get KDE???
[00:39] <M13> im running Edubuntu 12.04
[00:39] <Magiobiwan> M13: Hmm.
[00:39] <Magiobiwan> Idk if it's available in the Repos
[00:39] <babyswizz> kostkon, i was finding it difficult getting connected to the internet on ubuntu
[00:40] <Magiobiwan> Anyone have any idea?
[00:40] <kostkon> babyswizz, are you connected now?
[00:40] <babyswizz> kostkon, yes
[00:40] <kostkon> babyswizz, good, then
[00:40] <M13> is there a way I can get a task bar in openbox???
[00:41] <kostkon> babyswizz, then, my suggestion is:  remove the local version and install the one from the repos, i.e. give the following in the terminal, it's one command: sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-restricted-extras && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:41] <kostkon> babyswizz, actually, no, better give this:
[00:42] <kostkon> babyswizz,   sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-restricted-extras && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:46] <tjeaton> Hey i've just been looking at ubuntu on android on the ubuntu website, how do I go about installing this?
[00:46] <kostkon> tjeaton, it hasn't been released yet
[00:46] <kostkon> tjeaton, I think
[00:47] <smj> do I need to add myself to a group to be able to access other home directories without sudo?
[00:47] <tjeaton> Ah okay, I've seen videos online of people installing it but i guess these are non official methods?
[00:47] <kostkon> tjeaton, haven't seen any videos except the ones from canonical
[00:48] <tjeaton> Just watching one now, it like uses vnc to connect to ubuntu on android. with ubuntu 12.04 that is
[00:49] <kostkon> tjeaton, hmm, no idea
[00:51] <smj> I remember it being possible to read other home directories without any group adding
[00:51] <smj> but I guess it's been changed
[00:52] <Bustacap> Hi, I'm having a problem starting jack. I get this error: "D-bus: jack server could not be started"
[00:53] <ar9> is there anyway to hide my ntfs parition on a livecd?
[00:53] <ar9> i want to hide my ntfs partitions from ubiquity
[00:57] <imperfect-> Anyoen know how to get XDMCP to work with light DM on 12.10
[00:57] <LifeIsGood169> Can I get some help setting up a new logical volume on a fresh install. I keep messing up.
[00:57] <imperfect-> I get black screen and disonnect
[00:57] <chris__333> I need help please. I'm right now doing an online test for school. I'm very new to linux. For some reason my left mouse button stoped working. The test is in flash. I didn't do anything but click the answer
[00:58] <CavalierPrime> chris_333 your flash player crash?  mouse button works on other things?
[00:59] <chris__333> OMG i'm going to fail this test! why did linux disable my left mouse button
[00:59] <chris__333> it works on here yes
[00:59] <chris__333> but not on this flash site
[00:59] <CavalierPrime> your flash player needs to be restarted/browser restart
[00:59] <chris__333> I did this test before on this page with no problems. It was on windows though.
[00:59] <chris__333> Linux does not work with flash that well?
[00:59] <chris__333> I mean linux is not too good with anything flash?
[01:00] <CavalierPrime> adobe doesn't debug it well or quickly, so it crashes more frequently
[01:00] <chris__333> ah, ok
[01:00] <coach17> chris_333 - its nothing to do with Linux, its your browser
[01:00] <chris__333> im using the browser that came with the new ubuntu firefox
[01:00] <chris__333> should i download Chrome to get a more stable flash handling browser?
[01:01] <CavalierPrime> you can try
[01:01] <chris__333> ok i'll try that. thank you
[01:01] <psusi> like all adobe products, flash is a terrible pile of junk... and they care about it on Linux even less than Windows
[01:02] <sheikhmak> hey guys quick question i see in my server install reiserfs, xfs, jfs, what are the main differences?
[01:02] <sheikhmak> anyone knows?
[01:02] <wantsfish> Hey guys, does chrome work for ubuntu 12.10 64bit? Cant get it to install :(
[01:02] <imperfect-> Anyone, anyone at all, zdmcp
[01:02] <CavalierPrime> last version for linux is out now, they said they won't support or develop it for linux any longer
[01:02] <imperfect-> xdmcp
[01:02] <psusi> sheikhmak, wikipedia
[01:02] <blackshirt> sheikhmak, they differences in internal
[01:03] <sheikhmak> psusi yeah i'm on some article, but looking for quick answer, that won't make me go through 4 pages of articles.
[01:03] <sheikhmak> blackshirt meaning?
[01:04] <coach17> sheikhmak - so, you want an explanation of filesystem types thats more concise than 4 pages on Wikipedia? :)
[01:05] <blackshirt> reiserfs was for reiser fs file system ... Commonly works better with small file size block in big thousand of number
[01:05] <psusi> sheikhmak, if you aren't interested in the details then don't worry about it and stick to the default ( ext4 )
[01:05] <DaemonicApathy> sheikhmak: Different filesystems require different means of recognition. That's all.
[01:05] <sheikhmak> coach17 lol i knew saying that will bite me in the butt
[01:05] <sheikhmak> lol
[01:05] <coach17> :-))
[01:05] <yeehi> Is there nice new virtualization technology being added to the new Intel Haswell CPUs to be released Q1 2013?
[01:05] <v0lksman> d
[01:06] <sheikhmak> thing is i'm installing this server and never wondered, how the different filesystems really differed.  i know about the good old ntfs, fat, and ext4
[01:06] <chaingun> ext3
[01:07] <georgeph> sheikmak...why bother with a server...you could end up being the victim of ddos attacks
[01:07] <chaingun> ext4 is new and not quite there yet
[01:07] <psusi> ext4 is not new, and has been there for several years now
[01:07] <georgeph> sheikmak...and some repair bills for ddos attacks are astronomical
[01:08] <sheikhmak> georgeph lol some of them include wiping the box. lol or having to redownload the ubuntu cd
[01:08] <georgeph> sheikmak especailly if they have distributed bot attackers
[01:08] <georgeph> sheikhmak...no...they overload your server
[01:09] <coach17> sheikhmak - ok, so if you know those FS you know the key diff is usually around extensibility...or in some cases just taste. Unless you are looking for a server install to do something like massive file management (in which case I'd suggest you probably already know about it or _should_ know about it) then I really dont think you need worry about the types ... t least, not for an explanation so quick that its faster to ab
[01:09] <coach17> sorb than 4pages ! :-)
[01:09] <georgeph> sheikmak and your site goes down and the repair bills while you are under attack are astronimical
[01:09] <psusi> a ddos attack has nothing to repair or wipe... you just wait for them to stop, or move to another isp
[01:10] <bazhang> !ot | georgeph
[01:10] <psusi> and the possibility of your server going down is not a very good reason to keep it down permanently yourself
[01:10] <coach17> oops. Forgot. Sorry  :)
[01:11] <sheikhmak> okay, i'll read up more on that. but for now, i'm behind a firewall and a router. my server will only be accessed by me.
[01:11] <wantsfish> CavalierPrime: was your answer to my question or another??
[01:11] <sheikhmak> nothing exposed to an external ip
[01:11] <CavalierPrime> wantsfish another
[01:12] <sheikhmak> but thanks coach17 . i don't intend to use it for a massive file management, but if i was to, what will you recommend, just curiosity and poking around different technologies
[01:13] <ejcweb> Can anyone suggest a command to scale up images in a directory such that they have a least one dimension matching that of a bounding size (say, 800x480px). Images larger that already have a dimension larger than that don't need to be altered.
[01:14] <georgeph> ejcweb why ...are you trying to do texture painting for realistic 3d characters
[01:14] <sheikhmak> oh and guys, I think This was a quick and better answer than wikipedia http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/33552/htg-explains-which-linux-file-system-should-you-choose/
[01:14] <deadmund> ejcweb: Be aware that scaling an image up will result in pixelation
[01:14] <ejcweb> georgeph: No.
[01:15] <ejcweb> deadmund: I'm aware of that.
[01:15] <georgeph> ejcweb...why do you need to scale...are you trying to do texture painting by fitting predone images
[01:15] <iomicio> hi guys
[01:15] <XiaolinDraconis> update-grub states that it found arch, but arch is not being added to the menu
[01:15] <iomicio> I would like to install ubuntu but I am having some problems, could anyone help?
[01:16] <deadmund> iomicio: what are the problems?
[01:16] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, state your specific question
[01:16] <iomicio> I borrowed a workstation from a friend
[01:16] <DaemonicApathy> XiaolinDraconis, it sounds like you need to make a custom grub entry for Arch.
[01:16] <iomicio> it has windows 7 and ubuntu 10.10 installed
[01:16] <iomicio> I am trying to install via USB but I am presented with the dual booth and not with the install prompt
[01:16] <XiaolinDraconis> DaemonicApathy, i was afraid of that
[01:17] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, the install is initiated from within live session
[01:17] <iomicio> and I don't have any password to access the live sessions
[01:17] <DaemonicApathy> iomicio, you should be presented with the options to install Ubuntu, create a dual boot system, or "something else" as part of the standard installation.
[01:18] <georgeph> ejc...why do you need to scale...are you trying to use predone images scaled down or up to fit your 3d characters for realistic texture painting
[01:18] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, no password is required
[01:18] <DaemonicApathy> If you want to have only Ubuntu, you will need to create a liveCD or usb drive.
[01:18] <psusi> sheikhmak, ext4 unless you are feeling adventerous, in which case you may give btrfs a try... it's got some killer features but is still experimental
[01:18] <smj> why can't I access my home directories on other partitions without root?
[01:18] <iomicio> I only see a prompt of command similar to this one: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28978/how-to-get-rid-of-multiple-linux-versions-in-grub-boot-menu
[01:18] <DaemonicApathy> smj: They're probably encrypted.
[01:18] <smj> they're not
[01:18] <sheikhmak> psusi from more reading i'll actually stick with ext2
[01:19] <psusi> sheikhmak, no, that would be a mistake
[01:19] <sheikhmak> psusi why would it be?
[01:19] <psusi> because ext2 is 25 years old and obsolete
[01:19] <xangua> !ot | psusi sheikhmak
[01:19] <psusi> it is not very efficient especially with large files, tends to need long fscks frequently, and is not robust in the face of crashes or power failures
[01:20] <DaemonicApathy> iomicio: That's a GRUB list - you want to boot from an Ubuntu CD/DVD/USB stick before that comes up.
[01:20] <iomicio> how can I do so (sorry I am a complete noob)
[01:20] <psusi> xangua, choice of filesystem to use with ubuntu is not ot
[01:21] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, what is your current primary OS
[01:21] <iomicio> on that work station is windows 7 but I just have a guest account
[01:21] <xangua> psusi: if it's not then just use ext4 as the installer recomends, period ;)
[01:22] <psusi> xangua, that's what I've been saying ;)
[01:22] <georgeph> what's up with blender it is completely broken on this version of ubuntu
[01:22] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, so you will want to download the ubuntu 12.04 iso, and get a program from pendrivelinux.org to install it to usb
[01:22] <sheikhmak> xangua sjeejs lol. its for an ubuntu install
[01:22] <iomicio> XiaolinDraconis: I did that
[01:22] <georgeph> does anybody else have problems with blender on ubuntu 12.04
[01:22] <args[0]> anybody knows if there's a room on IRC for Raspberry Pi?
[01:22] <xangua> !alis | args[0]
[01:22] <iomicio> XiaolinDraconis: how can I avoid getting into GRUB
[01:22] <iomicio> what should I do before that?
[01:23] <DaemonicApathy> iomicio: download the Ubuntu version you want from http://www.ubuntu.com , burn it to a disc, and boot the machine from that. The BIOS of the machine may have to be tweaked (the first screen might say something like "F2 for system settings")
[01:23] <sheikhmak> psusi thanks for the pointers, i'll look into it later, lol. i really need to proceed with server install
[01:23] <sheikhmak> ahahah
[01:23] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, which prgram did you use to install to usb?
[01:23] <georgeph> how can ubuntu afford not to support blender...especially when tears of steel shows some solid graphics capabilities
[01:23] <iomicio> XiaolinDraconis: PendriveLinux
[01:23] <args[0]> xangua: I'm asking if anyone knows, not how do I know..
[01:24] <georgeph> does anybody know of a fix for blender
[01:24] <iomicio> DaemonicApathy: I have dowloaded a zip file
[01:24] <iomicio> DaemonicApathy: is the iso inside or should I burn the zip
[01:24] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, u should not have gotten a zip
[01:25] <sheikhmak> which brings me to another question. while i'm at it. my laptop has somewhat a weird behavior since i tried gnome-desktop on it, grub color has changed to blue, and on boot, i get the some blue wallpaper for a hot second before my wallpaper kicks in. its actually sort of annoying at this point. lol. anyone knows what to do with that?
[01:25] <jrib> georgeph: you should describe how it is broken
[01:25] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, go here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop and download the second choice
[01:25] <iomicio> before it goes to boot I have two options: F2 and F12
[01:25] <iomicio> should I click any of those?
[01:25] <theborger> questions. if i am running 10.04 32 bit. and upgrade to 12 will that update to 64bit os?
[01:25] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, titled ubuntu 12.04 lts
[01:25] <jrib> theborger: no
[01:25] <georgeph> jrib..well let me try to run it in a shell and i will see if there are any error messages
[01:26] <theborger> jrib, so i need to do a fresh install
[01:26] <theborger> jrib: anyway to upgrade to 64bit?
[01:26] <jrib> theborger: reinstall
[01:26] <iomicio> XiaolinDraconis: I have already dowloaded that file. It is a zip file to me!
[01:26] <psusi> iomicio, you probably have installed one of the silly programs that can also treat iso files as an archive... it is not
[01:27] <georgeph> some people scale predone images with gimp and fit them to 3d characters in blender for realistic 3d characters without spending a dime
[01:27] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, you should have gotten this, ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[01:27] <iomicio> psusi: that could be, how do I treat it as an iso instead?
[01:27] <psusi> iomicio, ignore the fact that it looks like a zip?
[01:28] <georgeph> well it says swrast/s_span.c 1327 assertion color type failed
[01:28] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, correct ignore that fact
[01:28] <psusi> follow instructions
[01:28] <georgeph> jrib is that any kind of a useful clue to try to get blender working on ubuntu
[01:28] <psusi> iomicio, are you putting it on a flash drive or a dvd?
[01:28] <jrib> georgeph: I still don't know how it is not working
[01:29] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, use the program from pendrivelinux, i personally prefer YUMI
[01:29] <iomicio> I have actually downloaded "ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64" but I think I need an intel version. does it make any difference?
[01:29] <georgeph> well apparently  color_type 0x1401 or 0x1406 failed
[01:29] <psusi> iomicio, no, intel uses amd's 64bit instruction set
[01:29] <jrib> iomicio: you've downloaded the 64-bit version, you can use it on intel processors
[01:29] <georgeph> in the swrast/s_span.c code
[01:29] <iomicio> ok
[01:30] <iomicio> so I will burn that file on a dvd right?
[01:30] <georgeph> this is a major problem for ubuntu
[01:30] <psusi> iomicio, yes, if you have a dvd and a program that knows how to burn image files
[01:30] <jrib> georgeph: why don't you say what exactly happens... What did you type?  What was the full output?  What happened on the screen?  Does blender still start?  Does it start and quit?  If it starts, does it behave normally?  If not, how so?
[01:30] <iomicio> can you suggest a program to do that?
[01:30] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, thats one of 2 options, also the YUMI program can install to usb
[01:30] <psusi> iomicio, you do not just drag and drop the file to the disc
[01:30] <georgeph> jrib...i typed the output already do you want me to type it again
[01:30] <XiaolinDraconis> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[01:30] <jrib> georgeph: good luck with your issue.
[01:31] <iomicio> I have actually installed the iso with PendriveLinux on a USB stick already
[01:31] <psusi> iomicio, then you should be set
[01:31] <Tsubaki> hey can I find a developer? I think I found a bug/exploit thats a major security issue
[01:31] <iomicio> the usb is in and I am presented with GRUB without any reference to a new installation
[01:31] <jrib> !bugs | Tsubaki
[01:31] <georgeph> jrib...man that is a real loss especially when some people are becoming able to achieve some modest level of computer graphics with blender
[01:31] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, as i told you, the installer is in a live session
[01:31] <jrib> georgeph: please stick to support
[01:31] <Tsubaki> k thanks but its not with a package
[01:31] <psusi> iomicio, so proceed with booting it up
[01:32] <jrib> Tsubaki: you can label a bug as a security issue.  #ubuntu-bugs can help you more
[01:32] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, choose the top choice when the system boots to usb
[01:32] <georgeph> jrib...well i don't know how to support it unless i try to recompile it...but it may be an x problem
[01:32] <Tsubaki> ty jrib
[01:32] <iomicio> XiaolinDraconis: the top choice leads to my friend's account and I have no password
[01:32] <jrib> georgeph: I'm just asking that you keep the discussion related to support in this channel.  There's no need for the "it's a real loss ..."
[01:33] <iomicio> psusi I am booting up
[01:33] <georgeph> jrib..ok
[01:33] <boxbeatsy> hi, i have a notebook with a AMD Radeon HD 6520G.  my 30" dell maxes out at 1200x800 resolution.  i'm currently runnign with the latest amd proprietary driver.  upon installing the open source fxlgr driver, my system crashed.  does anyone have ideas on how i can increase my resolution?
[01:33] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, the top choice from the usb would not lead to an already installed system
[01:33] <iomicio> XiaolinDraconis: ok let me try again
[01:34] <georgeph> boxbeatsy...how did you change the driver for x...i also would like to try another driver
[01:35] <boxbeatsy> georgeph: i followed a guide on the ubuntuforums.  added the ppa and then used apt-get install fglrx i believe
[01:35] <iomicio> XiaolinDraconis: it prompts my friend account
[01:35] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, try this tutorial, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_02Ca5LJpg&feature=related
[01:36] <boxbeatsy> boxbeatsy: but after i tried fglrx, it just straight up failed to boot.  to get it back to a normal state, i had to purge fglrx, and reset xorg.conf
[01:36] <boxbeatsy> ^geor
[01:36] <georgeph> boxbeatly oh well i got a deb package and used dpkg -i...but it did not change anything in x
[01:36] <georgeph> boxbeatly how did you reconfigure x
[01:36] <georgeph> for a rolled back driver
[01:36] <boxbeatsy> georgeph: i know for a fact that the graphics card (amd radeon hd 6520g) can support more than 1200x800 because my other monitor, can max out at 1920x1680
[01:37] <georgeph> boxbeatsy...well i don't know anything about that hires stuff...my cheap junk barely gets 640 by 480 with 256 colors
[01:38] <georgeph> boxbeatsy...but i would like to goof around with some drivers too..but i don't see anyway of reconfigure x for different drivers since the conf file is missing and the configure apps seem to be missing too
[01:39] <boxbeatsy> georgeph: so, first a disclaimer: i know nothing about hardware configs.  once the computer crashed, the steps i took were 1)purging fglrx via apt-get 2)blacklisting fglrx_ipa so it didnt get recognized by the lsphw command under configuration 3)downloaded proprietary amd driver and installed it
[01:39] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, rather than entering a bios and changing settings, some systems allow you to go to boot options, for me i press F11 at boot and i get a list to choose what device to boot, i select usb and thats it
[01:40] <boxbeatsy> georgeph: 4)run sudo aticonfig --initial
[01:40] <iomicio> XiaolinDraconis:it worked!
[01:40] <georgeph> well i can try that but that doesn't seem like the right deb driver for my older hardware
[01:40] <boxbeatsy> georgeph: i see
[01:40] <blackness> anyone here familiar with plymouth and the boot splashes? i cant get it to switch from the plain purple "ubuntu 12.10" boot screen
[01:41] <georgeph> boxbeatsy...i am more interested in playing around with particular not generic drivers
[01:41] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, brilliant, did you learn where the error was? which step was missing?
[01:41] <georgeph> boxbeatsy..but something happened to all the x configuration programs
[01:41] <iomicio> let me finish the installation and I will tell you ;)
[01:41] <boxbeatsy> georgeph: i see....sorry, i'm new to linux so i'm afraid i'm not of much help :\...do you by any chance know why i woudlnt be able to incrase my resolution past 1200x800 on a 30" monitor?
[01:42] <XiaolinDraconis> blackness, i use a program called plymouth-manager
[01:42] <blackness> from what repo?
[01:42] <boxbeatsy> georgeph: i feel like it's definitely a driver issue, but i can't find instructions anywhere on installin ga new driver
[01:42] <georgeph> boxbeatsy...well i don't know anything about that hires stuff..it is too expensive for me
[01:42] <georgeph> boxbeatsy...i am just trying to get to a useful level of 3d stuff for emulation purposes
[01:43] <iomicio> btw I have to press F12
[01:43] <georgeph> boxbeatsy i don't know anything about that hi  res stuff
[01:43] <XiaolinDraconis> blackness, http://sourceforge.net/projects/plymouthmanager/
[01:43] <blackness> i found a repo for it
[01:43] <blackness> that doesnt seem to work lol
[01:44] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, so that was it then, just needed to select usb during post
[01:44] <georgeph> boxbeatsy...i am just trying to get some lo res cheap 3d stuff workin
[01:44] <iomicio> XiaolinDraconis: apparently yes
[01:45] <iomicio> XiaolinDraconis: you guys rock!, I am so happy I can finally start
[01:45] <iomicio> this is my firt Linux installation ever ;)
[01:45] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, you may want to see that video i posted, it really helps to have a proper boot order, in my opinion cd drives come first then usb then hard drives
[01:46] <blackness> XiaolinDraconis, do i need to delete text.plymouth?
[01:46] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, you will not be disappointed, i just hope you got the 12.04 and not 12.10
[01:47] <XiaolinDraconis> blackness, i never deleted any file, installed the program downloaded a theme, and selected it via the program
[01:47] <iomicio> XiaolinDraconis: yes, I got the 04
[01:48] <blackness> i did that too..but its using /etc/alternative/text.plymouth for the theme..i can edit "Ubuntu 12.10" to whatever and it shows my changes.
[01:48] <dsnyders> !nvidia
[01:48] <XiaolinDraconis> iomicio, good, 12.10 is for advanced users, its cutting edge and often gets broken by updates
[01:49] <XiaolinDraconis> blackness, ive never went beyond changing to a new theme from gnome-look
[01:49] <blackness> i think im going to remove every theme, and see what happens..
[01:50] <h4ckdev> !help
[01:51] <georgeph> boxbeatsy well that apt-get install fglrx stuff failed completely here
[01:51] <georgeph> boxbeatsy...anyway i doubt if a generic driver would work for a specific old board...i need to have more flexibility with x
[01:52] <georgeph> boxbeatsy...i don't know why they took out all the x config programs
[01:52] <lco124> please can somebody help me with compiling the Intel Graphics Driver
[01:53] <boxbeatsy> georgeph: i'm afraid i don't know enough to provide any valuable insights :X
[01:53] <georgeph> ico24...good luck...after you get it compiled..how do you plan on installing it into x
[01:53] <lco124> please, do you know how to compile Intel Graphics Linux Driver
[01:54] <RNK6> could someone help me get to foonetic?
[01:54] <RNK6> i kinda new to irc stuff
[01:54] <georgeph> ico124...well first i would look for a make file and also it will probably use some kernel headers so you might need to have that available too
[01:55] <georgeph> ico124..i don't really know ...i can't afford intel stuff
[01:55] <Biomechd> hey guys, i'm trying to render with luxblend and i keep getting this error. "Command line argument parsing failed with error 'locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid', please use the --help option to view the allowed syntax."
[01:55] <lco124> the problem are the makefiles
[01:56] <iomicio> Thank you all guys!
[01:56] <georgeph> ico124...well they probably need to have kernel headers around anyway
[01:56] <georgeph> ico124..but i can't say for sure...i can't afford any of that intel stuff....it still commands a high premium in the market
[01:57] <XiaolinDraconis> DaemonicApathy, i think i found the source of the problem
[01:57] <bazhang> georgeph, enough with the extra commentary
[01:57] <georgeph> bazhang...ok..just trying to see if he had any ideas about reconfiguring x
[01:57] <lco124> geogerph, thanks i will search in another channel
[01:58] <bazhang> georgeph, stick to support ONLY. not what you can and cannot afford, etc
[01:58] <DaemonicApathy> xiaolindraconis: Oh?
[01:58] <XiaolinDraconis> DaemonicApathy, when installing arch it told me something about error ill need to manually run mkcpio or something, i never did and while adding a custom grub entry i noticed i could not find initram or vmlinuz
[01:58] <almoxarife> bazhang: you have such a cheery way of getting a point across
[01:58] <georgeph> bazhang...ok..well i can't support very much...i don't have the experience on lots of different hardware
[01:58] <bazhang> almoxarife, I try
[01:58] <DaemonicApathy> Makes sense.
[01:58] <bazhang> georgeph, then simply do not answer
[01:58] <XiaolinDraconis> yeah, it helps when u remember what errors you had
[01:59] <Biomechd> did anyone see the error i posted?
[01:59] <DaemonicApathy> Thanks for the info, xiaolindraconis. I actually intend to dual-boot Arch soon. </ot>
[01:59] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Is there a keystroke combo for cycling through screen resolutions?
[01:59] <DaemonicApathy> dsnyders: Not by default, but you could always script one.
[02:00] <georgeph> snyders...well it used to be ctrl-alt plus/minus...but that seems to be broken too and also ctrl-alt-bkspc doesn't kill x either anymor
[02:00] <boxbeatsy> does anyone know if there's a way to force display resolution other than xrandr (that failed)
[02:00] <lco124> somebody knows hoe to compile the linux intel graphics driver
[02:00] <lco124> how
[02:00] <dsnyders> DaemonicApathy, You vastly overestimate my capabilites :-)
[02:01] <georgeph> snyders...they really butchered x
[02:01] <DaemonicApathy> dsnyders: My estimate of your abilities is "the ability to use Google" until proven otherwise. ;-)
[02:01] <georgeph> snyders...all the flexibility seems to be gone
[02:02] <almoxarife> Biomechd: thats such a specific error that you may not see a response, tried the fall back ? google?
[02:02] <RNK6> im using 12.04, and i really miss the ability to open a file type with a command
[02:02] <RNK6> is there still a way to do that?
[02:02] <dsnyders> georgeph, ctrl-alt plus/minus worked (number pad + and -)
[02:02] <DaemonicApathy> Oh, nice. I thught that functionality was removed.
[02:02] <georgeph> snyders..i wonder if it is possible to uninstall x and try installing an earlier version of xfree
[02:03] <georgeph> snyders with maybe more flexibility
[02:03] <DaemonicApathy> RNK6: can you elaborate on what you mean?
[02:03] <georgeph> snyders ...does ctrl--alt-plus /minus work for you...it no longer works here
[02:04] <Biomechd> almoxarife, i'm confused. what do you mean, exactly?
[02:04] <dsnyders> georgeph, It would help if you put dsnyders instead of just snyders.  My chat program would then highlight your conversation
[02:04] <georgeph> dsnyders...oh sorry about the misspelling
[02:04] <georgeph> dsnyders...but ctrl-alt plus/minus no longer works here
[02:05] <RNK6> i remember in my old ubuntu version (8 - 10, im not really sure) i could select "open with command" and enter a command to open a file with
[02:05] <RNK6> under "open with"
[02:05] <georgeph> dsnyders and ctrl-alt-backspace no longer kills x
[02:05] <georgeph> dsnyders....they really butchered it for some reason
[02:06] <dsnyders> georgeph, np.  Yes, the ctrl-alt numberpad +/- seemed to cycle through the resolutions.  However, it doesn't fix my main problem: all I have is the desktop background.  No icons, no menu, nothing.
[02:06] <SierraAR> Where would I go to find out what version of ubuntu I currently have installed?
[02:06] <georgeph> dsnyders...at least ctrl-alt f7 from ctrl-alt f1 still works
[02:06] <georgeph> dsnyders..but that won't solve your question...x is just really butchered
[02:07] <thanigaivel> how do i know which graphics card using my ubunut
[02:07] <almoxarife> Biomechd: well, that error you got, i could copy paste it to google and see what comes up and then offer you a link i 'guess' would be the most helpful, but you being a user of the app might see something more useful from the results if you did the same, still confused?
[02:07] <dsnyders> georgeph, ctrl-alt-backspace was changed a few years back because it interfered with handicap usability settings.
[02:08] <L3top> thanigaivel: do you have an optimus or similar?
[02:08] <georgeph> dsnyders..oh well i was wondering why so much flexibilty has been lost
[02:08] <Biomechd> almoxarife, i kinda understand now
[02:08] <L3top> thanigaivel: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[02:10] <thanigaivel> L3top: it says v00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0102] (rev 09)
[02:10] <thanigaivel> L3top: whats that mean
[02:10] <L3top> thanigaivel: is that the only thing it produces?
[02:10] <thanigaivel> L3top: yes .
[02:11] <DaemonicApathy> RNK6: Perhaps this is what you're looking for: http://askubuntu.com/questions/145243/where-did-open-with-user-defined-command-go
[02:11] <kostkon> SierraAR, open your system monitor, click on the 1st tab. Or, in a terminal, give:  cat /etc/lsb-release
[02:11] <L3top> You have only one GPU so I do not understand your question...
[02:11] <L3top> thanigaivel: ^
[02:12] <aah> I hear Ubuntu 12.10 has fde in the installer.  Any way to get this in the 12.04 installer? (I don't want to use the alternate cd)
[02:12] <SierraAR> kostkon, thanks. Another question - Is it better to stick with the 32bit version of 12.10, even though my hardware supports 64 bit (I originally had windows 7 64 bit on this laptop), or should I switch to 64 bit? I've gotten mixxed signals from google searches
[02:12] <linuxy> Hello everyone!
[02:12] <RNK6> DaemonApathy: thanks, that seems to be what i was looking for
[02:12] <munderwo-work> Hi all. Not sure if this is the right place, but im trying to build a .deb package from a source tarball, using dh_make and then dpkg-buildpackge. Its erroring saying dpkg-genchanges: error: cannot read ../libffi_3.0.11-1.dsc: No such file or directory , anybody got any tips? I understand that the .dsc file is a debian source file?
[02:13] <kostkon> SierraAR, my recommendation would be, if you can, switch to 64.
[02:14] <kostkon> SierraAR, is there anything specific that concerns you, are you worrying about something that might not work on 64bit?
[02:15] <SierraAR> kostkon, mainly I've read that programs designed to work in 32bit won't run in ubuntu 64bit due to missing 32bit libraries
[02:16] <kostkon> SierraAR, actually, ubuntu has had multiatch support since 12.04. It measn that you can run 32bit programs in your 64bit OS.
[02:17] <DaemonicApathy> SierraAR: How much memory does the system have?
[02:17] <SierraAR> DaemonicApathy, 4 GB
[02:17] <kostkon> SierraAR, or maybe since 11.10.
[02:18] <SierraAR> kostkon, ah cool, thanks. Is there a way to install the 64bit version without losing everything thats already setup?
[02:18] <DaemonicApathy> SierraAR: I have to agree with kostkon - there's no apparent reason not to go with 64-bit.
[02:18] <kostkon> SierraAR, do you have a separate partition for you home?
[02:19] <kostkon> SierraAR, if not, then I think you'll have to do a clean install.
[02:20] <SierraAR> kostkon, I don't think so. I didnt set any partitions up when installing.
[02:20] <georgeph> man that apt-get stuff is really broken here with fglrx
[02:20] <kostkon> SierraAR, then, just backup and reinstall :/
[02:20] <Tex_Nick> 12.10 ... how can I tell if i'm running in 2d or 3d graphics mode ?
[02:21] <georgeph> stuff like no apport written because maxreports is already reached
[02:21] <georgeph> apt-get seems very broken here
[02:22] <RNK6> DaemonApathy: thanks, it worked
[02:22] <RNK6> i have been struggling to get a hard drive to work
[02:23] <georgeph> RNK6 what is wrong with it
[02:23] <RNK6> i wiped it with gpart, but now it wont mount
[02:23] <georgeph> RNK6 ..a moving parts problem...have you tried a solid state approach
[02:23] <RNK6> hmm?
[02:24] <RNK6> im a noob when it comes to low level stuff
[02:24] <SierraAR> kostkon, alright, thanks.
[02:24] <kostkon> SierraAR, np
[02:25] <georgeph> RNK6 but not sure if solid state really solves the moving parts problem...because it has limited write times
[02:25] <georgeph> RNK6 ...storage is just an unresolved issue
[02:26] <georgeph> RNK6...scratched CDs...blurays...don't solve anything either
[02:26] <Hamachi> i am trying to install 12.10 server with software raid but i'm confused about how to set up the partitions
[02:26] <RNK6> all i know is that i stuck the pin thingy into "slave" and then started messing around with gpart because it apparently had wiping capabilities
[02:26] <bazhang> !ot > georgeph
[02:27] <georgeph> ubottu...how do i find the private message
[02:27] <L3top> !ot | georgeph
[02:27] <georgeph> ubottu..ok..but that still doesn't answer my question...how do i find a private message
[02:28] <chaingun> georgeph: what irc client are you using?
[02:28] <L3top> georgeph: it would depend on how you are connecting to IRC
[02:28] <georgeph> ubottu..i see a 3 in the left side scroller...did you send me 3 messages...but how do i access them
[02:28] <L3top> georgeph: stop talking to the bot.
[02:29] <chaingun> hahahahahaha
[02:29] <georgeph> L3top..ok..but do you know how to access the 3 whatever they are
[02:29] <L3top> georgeph: you would have to answer my question for me to answer yours.
[02:29] <bazhang> georgeph, stop being offtopic. its that simple.
[02:29] <chaingun> can someone do a CTCP and see what irc client this guy is running?
[02:30] <dsnyders> georgeph, they should be in another tab on your chat client somewhere
[02:30] <georgeph> bazhang...well i am trying to understand this ubuntu software
[02:30] <bazhang> georgeph, and this is the Wrong place to chat about it.
[02:31] <georgeph> bazhang...ok i just won't ask about it
[02:31] <bazhang> !manual > georgeph
[02:32] <bazhang> !rute > georgeph
[02:33] <dsnyders> bazhang, sending georgeph private messages won't help because he can't find the private messages.
[02:33] <Hamachi> is there a guide that could help me set up software raid during the 12.10 server installation?
[02:33] <Hamachi> i found one for 9.04 but when i set both partitions to / it won't let me write the changes
[02:35] <chaingun>  georgeph is using Telepathy for IRC. Anyone have any idea how to access private messages in that?
[02:36] <georgeph> chaingun...no the default program ubuntu recommends is empathy...but i don't have a clue how to use it
[02:39] <dsnyders> chaingun, georgeph, it looks like Telepathy puts each chat into a tab across the top.  georgeph, do you see a tab called ubottu?
[02:39] <kostkon> dsnyders, it's empathy, using the telepathy lib
[02:40] <blackshirt> !info apache2-mpm-prefork
[02:40] <georgeph> chaingun...no i don't see any table across the top..just a label for the channel
[02:40] <blackshirt> !info apache2-mpm-worker
[02:41] <Tex_Nick> Ubuntu 12.10 ... I installed the CompizConfig Settings Manager, the Cube & A lot of other features are not on the menu ( I know, Compiz is Lame, but I like the Cube )... I've asked in the #compiz channel several times a day for the past week ... that channel seems to be all lurkers ( no disrespect intended ) ... can someone point me in the right direction ?
[02:42] <georgeph> bazhang..ok i found 3 messages by you..in an envelope next to the speaker
[02:43] <georgeph> bazhang..ok i found 2 more messages by that ubottu
[02:44] <georgeph> bazhang and i found the third messenger to be some kind of channel report
[02:44] <CrazyZurfer> Hello, I'm creating a bash that needs the usage of "sudo" but it asks for the password, is there any way to put the password on the source code?
[02:44] <georgeph> bazhang ...now the weird 3 is gone on the left hand scroller
[02:45] <somsip> CrazyZurfer: run the bash script with sudo
[02:45] <Jordan_U> CrazyZurfer: No, and it would be incredibly insecure to do so.
[02:45] <Jordan_U> CrazyZurfer: What is your end goal?
[02:47] <CrazyZurfer> My idea is to execute the bash by double clicking it in the desktop
[02:47] <Jordan_U> CrazyZurfer: What is your end goal?
[02:47] <CrazyZurfer> I need that to use that code everyday
[02:48] <CrazyZurfer> and it's very boring puting the password aaalll the time
[02:48] <CrazyZurfer> lol
[02:48] <georgeph> bazhang...so it does appear to be able to receive private messages
[02:48] <L3top> CrazyZurfer: What does the script do?
[02:48] <georgeph> bazhang..but x itself is just in such bad shape
[02:48] <Jordan_U> CrazyZurfer: I will ask one more time for your end goal, and if you don't give an end goal I'll simply stop trying to help you as I don't have the time. If you're not sure what an end goal is, see http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#goal
[02:49] <L3top> georgeph: could you state a problem that we might help you with?
[02:50] <L3top> !details | georgeph
[02:50] <dsnyders> georgeph, this is not a place to complain.  This is a place to ask questions and provide answers.
[02:50] <georgeph> L3top...well it is still to early to find many problems...but right now..blender doesn't install...fglrx doesn't work with apt-get and x is really in bad shape
[02:50] <bazhang> !work | georgeph
[02:50] <SierraAR> Gonna be doing that reinstall tonight. Anyway, had another question
[02:51] <CrazyZurfer> ok, I want to start Lampp (Xampp for linux) every time I Turn on the computer. Actually the only way I know to execute Lampp is by executing a bash file. The bash file has to be executed with Sudo.
[02:51] <kevin_> I need some help trying to mount a network share from my NAS.  I had it working once but now I can't get it to work.
[02:51] <CrazyZurfer> Jordan_U: is that a smart question? :)
[02:51] <L3top> georgeph: your system does not see an ATI card... only an Intel... why are you trying to install fglrx?
[02:51] <Jordan_U> CrazyZurfer: Yes.
[02:51] <SierraAR> The 'Main Menu' program that says it modifies main menus. Where's the menu that it changes?
[02:51] <bazhang> CrazyZurfer, it's LAMP not LAMPP
[02:51] <bazhang> !lamp > CrazyZurfer
[02:52] <georgeph> L3top...i'm not sure what non-propietary driver is loaded...i can't see how to dpkg -i a specific driver for x
[02:52] <kostkon> SierraAR, the new menu in ubuntu is the dash ;)  so it modifies the entries in dash and the launcher
[02:52] <Jordan_U> CrazyZurfer: And now that I know that your end goal is to have a LAMP server, I highly recommend that you stop trying to use Xamp and simply install LAMP normally via the repositories (which will automatically configured it to start at boot).
[02:52] <L3top> georgeph: you aren't understanding me. fglrx is the proprietary driver for an ATI card... your lspci does not show an ATI card.
[02:52] <SierraAR> kostkon, weird, because the files and stuff listed in the main menu program arent anywhere in the dash that I can find, they dont show up when searching either
[02:53] <Jordan_U> !lamp | CrazyZurfer
[02:53] <CrazyZurfer> bazhang: actually it's lampp with 2 p's : http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html
[02:53] <blackness> ok, i got the boot splash to work, but it doesn't show up till after its loaded the system, and displays for just a second before loading GDM, any ideas why?
[02:53] <georgeph> L3top..nope lspci doesn't show anything but the kernel reports frame buffer allocation for the radeon
[02:53] <kostkon> SierraAR, yeah, there are some new generation gtk menu utilities in the software centre that are written specifically for unity. Just do a search in USC.
[02:54] <georgeph> L3top..i don't know what x is doing...and the configure programs all seem to have disappeared along with sample config files
[02:54] <kostkon> SierraAR, 2-3 of them
[02:55] <CrazyZurfer> Jordan_U: But, is there a way to do what I want?, because I've used xampp for a long time and now I'll have to move all databases, all the code and setup the whole thing again :S
[02:55] <georgeph> L3top...but the kernel recognizes the card...but that is not a driver for x
[02:55] <L3top> georgeph: Lets start over. What physical cards do you have installed in your system? There is an onboard intel... what else...
[02:55] <kostkon> SierraAR, and i meant gnome menu, not gtk menu :/
[02:55] <georgeph> L3top ...it is an old 9200 crippled model called the se for cheap junk
[02:56] <SierraAR> kostkon, explains why I only got one search result, that being 'terminal' xD
[02:56] <SierraAR> Though that's probably not showing anything I'm looking for anyway
[02:56] <georgeph> L3top...amd...assigns letters for defective gpus and shuts down some feature to make a little of it usable
[02:56] <Jordan_U> CrazyZurfer: Yes, there are ways to do what you want (none of which involve storing passwords in scripts, or use of sudo at all). But Xampp is not supported here, and I don't personally have the time to walk you through configuring it to run at boot properly either.
[02:56] <L3top> georgeph: I would need more information than that... but the long and short of it is that if it cannot be seen by lspci, you cannot use it.
[02:57] <georgeph> L3top...that is not true.
[02:57] <CrazyZurfer> Jordan_U: Ok, thanks for your help ;)!
[02:57] <Jordan_U> CrazyZurfer: You're welcome.
[02:57] <georgeph> L3top...it is just that there should be some way to apt-get some configure programs for x
[02:57] <SierraAR> Ah well, not too important. I can just create desktop shortcuts
[02:57] <georgeph> L3top..because it is really butchered
[02:58] <kostkon> SierraAR, just search for "menu". Check this for example, https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/menulibre/
[02:58] <L3top> georgeph: Yes, it is, and it is why you are here. This is most of what I have done for the last 2 years, is automate driver installs for various hardware, especially GPUs.
[02:58] <th3pun15h3r> anyone interested in a openbox of ubuntu?
[02:58] <georgeph> L3top...well experimenters don't want anything automated...they need flexibility
[02:58] <kostkon> SierraAR, but, it's only for 12.04 ok :/
[02:58] <blackshirt> !openbox
[02:59] <georgeph> L3top..and they have severely crippled the x platform
[02:59] <bazhang> georgeph, thats not true. just stop it.
[02:59] <L3top> georgeph: I can give you every possible driver a card can use, but if the system cannot even see the device, it cannot and will not be used.
[02:59] <bazhang> georgeph, this is NOT The complaints/rants channel. so just stop.
[03:00] <kevin_> I need some help trying to mount a network share from my NAS.  I had it working once but now I can't get it to work.
[03:00] <georgeph> bazhang...he is trying to help resolve an issue...but i don't see the flexibility needed to work on it
[03:00] <bazhang> georgeph, who is he
[03:01] <georgeph> bazhang...he is L3top
[03:01] <bazhang> georgeph, stop saying x is crippled and other nonsense
[03:01] <L3top> georgeph: your system has to see hardware to use it. This is not a limitation of flexibility... something is wrong with the card or its seating/power needs
[03:02] <georgeph> bazhang...it is not nonsense ...i remember when x was very flexible and very accomodating
[03:02] <SierraAR> Is there a way to install the drivers for a Epson workforce 465 all in one?
[03:02] <SierraAR> Sorry to be bashing you guys with so many questions - I just got ubuntu installed last night and still trying to figure it all out.
[03:02] <kostkon> georgeph, just stop stating (false) facts and start asking questions. Otherwise, I think you should move your discusion to the offtopic channel.
[03:02] <SierraAR> The disk wants to run in wine, and I'm not sure I want to be installing printer drivers on wine
[03:02] <bazhang> SierraAR, linuxprinting.org database is where I would check first
[03:03] <L3top> georgeph: the biggest problem with X is its archaic nature. What you are saying is nonsense. It has not devolved.
[03:03] <DaemonicApathy> SierraAR, network or USB?
[03:03] <georgeph> L3top...it has lost many many adjustable features
[03:03] <SierraAR> DaemonicApathy, wireless network
[03:04] <CrazyZurfer> Jordan_U: Do you know any repo that has lamp with phpmyadmin? :)!
[03:04] <DaemonicApathy> SierraAR, last time I went to System Settings > Printing > Add > Find Network Printer with a similar model, all I had to do was enter the local IP, and it downloaded drivers automatically.
[03:04] <L3top> no it hasn't, and your inability to install your card is not representative of such... at no time in history would your current situation work. Something else is wrong.
[03:05] <L3top> georgeph: please power down the system, and check that the card is properly installed.
[03:06] <georgeph> L3top...it is installed fine...but i will power it down anyway to satisfy that request
[03:06] <SierraAR> DaemonicApathy, I'll give that a try then check the site bazhang gave me. Thanks
[03:06] <DaemonicApathy> Any time.
[03:06] <georgeph> L3top..the kernel recognizes it fine
[03:06] <gkatsev> last week I updated to ubuntu 12.10, and now whenever I boot, it fails to do so manually and says "failed to mount drive, hit S to skip..." Any ideas how to fix that?
[03:06] <kostkon> georgeph, do you know the term PEBKAC?
[03:06] <georgeph> L3top...let me power down now
[03:07] <Jordan_U> CrazyZurfer: phpmyadmin is in the default repositories, no need for a ppa. Though I am not advocating the use of phpmyadmin.
[03:07] <bazhang> kostkon, lets not go there please
[03:07] <kostkon> bazhang, yeah, ok :P  just saying
[03:07] <CrazyZurfer> !apt
[03:09] <krababbel> gkatsev: So you can't boot anymore?
[03:09] <gkatsev> krababbel: it boots once I hit `S', but it waits for user-input on that screen.
[03:09] <gkatsev> it used to work just fine in 12.04 and 11.10 and 11.04
[03:11] <krababbel> gkatsev: You'd have to show us the contents of the file /etc/fstab, and the output of 'df -h' maybe first. Probably something changed?
[03:11] <gkatsev> I dont think anything changed. Let me paste those someplace.
[03:12] <CrazyZurfer> Jordan_U: sudo apt-get install lamp returns: not found
[03:12] <DaemonicApathy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[03:12] <georgeph> L3top..ok im back...how do you recommend i access a driver i tried to install with dpkg -i...i don't know where it put it
[03:12] <Jordan_U> CrazyZurfer: Did you read the link from ubottu?
[03:13] <OldOneEye> is 130gig too much swap space?
[03:13] <CrazyZurfer> yup
[03:13] <kostkon> OldOneEye, oh yeah
[03:13] <CrazyZurfer> well... not complete xD
[03:13] <DaemonicApathy> CrazyZurfer: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_lamp_for_newbies
[03:14] <gkatsev> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1359485/ /etc/fstab  and `df -h' http://paste.ubuntu.com/1359490/
[03:14] <SierraAR> Out of curiousity, why does 12.04 have 5 years of support and 12.10 only has 10?
[03:14] <gkatsev> krababbel: ↑
[03:14] <L3top>  georgeph dpkg -i means I have this .deb located here, and I want to install it... again, until your system SEES the ati card, it WILL NOT work. If you are looking for something specific that the package installed, you can try dpkg -L or -S or locate.
[03:14] <SierraAR> Err s/10/2
[03:14] <CrazyZurfer> thanks DaemonicApathy
[03:14] <kostkon> !lts | SierraAR
[03:14] <DaemonicApathy> SierraAR: 12.04 is specifically LTS - Long Term Support
[03:14] <DaemonicApathy> You win this round, kostkon...
[03:14] <kostkon> DaemonicApathy, :P
[03:15] <SierraAR> Ah, just a bit curious if that means .04 might be a better option than .10. What made them choose to make .04 LTS?
[03:15] <DaemonicApathy> Iirc, every 4 versions are LTS.
[03:16] <DaemonicApathy> 10.04, 12.04, 14.04, etc...
[03:16] <Jordan_U> CrazyZurfer: If you had read even to the first section, titled "To install the default LAMP stack in Ubuntu 10.04 and above" at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP you would have found the two commands required to intall a complete lamp stack.
[03:16] <joehe> hello all,
[03:17] <joehe> sorry for disturb
[03:17] <joehe> i want to install gcc 4.6
[03:17] <L3top> why?
[03:17] <joehe> but when i download the gcc debian package from web,
[03:17] <joehe> it can not installed
[03:17] <bazhang> joehe, why do you need that
[03:18] <SierraAR> DaemonicApathy, makes sense I think xD. Does this mean .04 would be a better option or should I stick with .10 when grabbing the 64-bit version?
[03:18] <krababbel> gkatsev: You can check if the UUID's are correct, output them with 'sudo blkid'
[03:19] <DaemonicApathy> SierraAR: given the length of support, and the number of apparent issues, I chose to stick with 12.04.1 - your choice is your own, though. :-)
[03:19] <DaemonicApathy> *issues with 12.10
[03:19] <joehe> because when i run a command
[03:19] <gkatsev> krababbel: I changed them in the paste, but when I hit `s' in the boot, they get mounted just fine on after boot/login.
[03:19] <gkatsev> krababbel: let me check blkid.
[03:19] <SierraAR> .04 it is. Probably better for a linux/ubuntu noob anyway xD
[03:19] <joehe> it said
[03:20] <joehe> `GLIBCXX_3.4.15' not found (required by /opt/semc-apt0.8-lib/lib/libapt-pkg.so.4.11)
[03:20] <bazhang> joehe, what version of ubuntu are you on now
[03:20] <SierraAR> Thanks again, DaemonicApathy
[03:20] <DaemonicApathy> SierraAR: Any time.
[03:20] <joehe> GLIBCXX_3.4.15 is in libstdc++.so.6
[03:20] <joehe> i search on the web , someone said GCC4.6.0 could solve the problem.
[03:21] <joehe> my OS is Ubuntu 10.04LTS
[03:21] <joehe> i am not sure how to install GCC 4.6.0
[03:21] <bazhang> joehe, what version of ubuntu are you on, and why do you have something in /opt
[03:21] <gkatsev> krababbel: yes, UUIDs are correct.
[03:21] <joehe> that /opt is a third party SW
[03:22] <kostkon> !build-essential | joehe
[03:22] <bazhang> joehe, what software
[03:22] <kostkon> joehe, try installing the "build-essential" package.
[03:23] <krababbel> gkatsev: I don't know, check /var/log/dmesg or /var/log/messages ?
[03:23] <joehe> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential?
[03:24] <kostkon> joehe, yes
[03:24] <joehe> it is a SW which we developed
[03:24] <georgeph> L3top...the driver created some old directories that used to be used...like /usr/X11R6/bin...and there is an aticonfig program...but it wants to modify a section of the old config file which is completely missing...and may not even be recognized if created
[03:24] <bazhang> joehe, whats the name, what does it do
[03:25] <georgeph> L3top...so that is where i could use some specific pointers
[03:25] <joehe> it said
[03:25] <joehe> build-essential is already the newest version.
[03:25] <joehe> 11.4build1
[03:25] <georgeph> L3top...is it possible to just uninstall this x crap and try to install an older version of xfree
[03:25] <kostkon> joehe, ok, now i get it. 10.04 has 4.3 but you need 4.6
[03:26] <almoxarife> joehe: sudo apt-get install libstdc++6 <-- if not yet installed try this, see if you get past your error
[03:26] <joehe> yes.
[03:26] <joehe> my current gcc is 4.3
[03:26] <gkatsev> krababbel: I think I found something at /var/log/boot.log let me paste that.
[03:27] <joehe> libstdc++6 is already the newest version.
[03:27] <joehe> 4.4.5-8
[03:27] <almoxarife> joehe: are you compiling?
[03:28] <georgeph> L3top...nobody wants or even can use auto stuff...they all need flexibility to accomodate all their individual hardware platforms
[03:28] <sasuke> i guys, i am using irssi for irc chat. i want to take backup in to a text file , for a channel , can anyone give me quick solution please . Its urgent
[03:28] <joehe> compliing what?
[03:29] <ironhalik> How can I debug crashing Cheese? GUVCview works ok, but cheese crashes after it tries to get the webcam feed
[03:29] <gkatsev> krababbel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1359506/ thoughts?
[03:29] <bazhang> sasuke, try asking in #irssi
[03:29] <georgeph> L3top...nobody in Linux Users wants auto anything...they want tinkering capability
[03:29] <sasuke> bazhang: thanks
[03:30] <georgeph> L3top...these are not windows users
[03:31] <krababbe1> gkatsev: I don't know the boot process that well, sorry.
[03:31] <gkatsev> krababbe1: ok, thanks.
[03:32] <gkatsev> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1359506/ anyone know why ubuntu complains that it can't mount these drives during boot (have to hit `s' to skip) but when I log in, it works just fine? Thanks in advance.
[03:32] <joehe> kostkon: could you pls help  me ?
[03:34] <joehe> should i downloaded a libstdc++6 package from web?
[03:34] <kostkon> joehe, hmm, I dont' have anything else to suggest right now
[03:35]  * L3top would not try and install 4.6 on 1004.
[03:35] <kostkon> joehe, maybe, if you could find a ppa for example that provides gcc packages for 10.04. Another option would be to upgrade to 12.04.
[03:36] <NeedFreedom> Hi. i need help to set the internet connection on a precise/quantal. It's my mom pc. In windows 7, you first must connect to the ISP wifi network. Than you dial up a pppoe  connection over the wifi. Once you setup this, they connect automaticly on login. On a fresh install of precise, I connected to the wifi network, but I couldn't find a way to connect the dsl connection.
[03:36] <joehe> sorry  what is 'ppa' ?
[03:36] <L3top> !ppa | joehe
[03:36] <chalcedony> in ubuntu 12.04, how do i get a terminal with tabs?
[03:36] <chalcedony> or multiple terminals?
[03:37] <joeb3_> chalcedony, gnome-terminal
[03:37] <kostkon> chalcedony, right click → open tab?
[03:37] <Dmole> Or ctrl t
[03:38] <krababbe1> NeedFreedom: could be you need the pppoeconf package?
[03:38] <chalcedony> joeb3_, click on terminal and it moves to that window/ .. lets you drag it but it's still one
[03:39] <ak5> can someone tell me what it means to "enable the component called 'universe'"
[03:39] <joeb3_> chalcedony, click File, Open Tab
[03:39] <Gerowen> ak5: There's a repository called "universe" that you need to enable.  Just open the "Software Sources" program, and put a check in the box next to it.
[03:41] <chalcedony> got it :) .. now it can't find the printer driver file. it's not in Downloads
[03:41] <ak5> Gerowen: can you tell me the cli version of that? do I edit sources.list?
[03:41] <Gerowen> Yeah the Universe repository should already be in there, you just un-comment it.
[03:41] <SierraAR> Is there any reason the startup disk creator seems to crash near the end of mounting the 12.04 64bit iso to a flash drive?
[03:42] <Gerowen> ak5: By un-commenting it you just remove the pound sign # from the beginning of the line.
[03:42] <ak5> Gerowen: if its not (some crazy vps) then where do I get the correct string (12.04 LTS)
[03:42] <Gerowen> ak5: Lemme look around for you, I'm using 12.10.
[03:42] <NeedFreedom> krababbel: I tried the pppoeconf. It worked but when i reboot it broke the networkmanager. THe systems hungup 60 seconds waiting the network to setup then fails. The problem is this should be simple like it's in windows 7, in a way i can tell my mon on telephone how to setup if needed. This is a very basic stuff, but i couldn't make this works stright, and i'm googling more than 1 hour with no sucess
[03:42] <ak5> Gerowen: thanks a bunch, I am googling in parallel
[03:44] <ak5> Seems harder to find than it should. Is there a good ubuntu wiki?
[03:44] <michael>   I install the ubuntu 10.04 and vnc4server, when I use vncviewer under XP to visit the server, I can't always see the desktop.when I get the "connection refused(10061)",if I ping ubuntu ip, I get TTL=255.
[03:45] <DBoyz> I am using ubuntu 11.10. How do i upgrade to 12.10 using iso mounting? I have downloaded ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso
[03:45] <DaemonicApathy> michael: you may want to find a vnc board to troubleshoot that issue.
[03:45] <Raspootis> Hello! I've got a little pc I've saved from being thrown out. 2.66 GHz Pentium 4 D, Nvidia 7400GT, 1GB RAM. Will it run Ubuntu 12.10 well?
[03:45] <Gerowen> ak5: Well it could be
[03:45] <Gerowen> ak5: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise universe
[03:45] <Gerowen> ak5: I just took mine and removed the "quantal" and replaced it with the name for 12.04
[03:45] <DaemonicApathy> Gerowen: "precise"
[03:46] <DaemonicApathy> Never mind me, I'm off to rest. -_-
[03:46] <Gerowen> DaemonicApathy: :P
[03:47]  * DBoyz waves
[03:47] <gkatsev> krababbe1: looks like it has to do with auto mounting NTFS partitions as `user'...
[03:47] <fermulator> Has anyone ever experienced a value of 0.0 in /proc/cpuinfo for CPU Mhz, running Unbuntu server 11.10 within VirtualBox.
[03:47] <krababbe1> gkatsev: thanks :)
[03:47] <blackshirt> good luck
[03:48] <gkatsev> krababbe1: how to fix it, I have no idea, though. :)
[03:48] <fermulator> http://pastebin.com/1DWS3jNT
[03:48] <krababbe1> NeedFreedom: looks like network manager has a dsl tab, you probably should have used that instead of installing pppoeconf then
[03:50] <ak5> Gerowen: lol seems to worl
[03:50] <ak5> /s/worl/work
[03:51] <krababbe1> gkatsev: Not sure, could be that the partitions are mounted at boot by fstab, and you want to mount again? You could try to replace auto with noauto in fstab, but I am just guessing. :)
[03:51] <chalcedony> find and ls .. nothing
[03:51] <chalcedony> what else can i use?
[03:52] <blackshirt> chalcedony, what are you trying to solve ?
[03:52] <studentz> Move to quantal and  sharing  printer on a network is not working.
[03:52] <gkatsev> krababbe1: I found this "/dev/sdxx /media/Windows ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 0" which is slightly different.  noauto would probably solve it, except, I DO want it to auto-mount.
[03:52] <chalcedony> blackshirt, i want to find wherever brother printer software put their driver it's not in Dowloads ?
[03:53] <SierraAR> Alright so I'm having a small problem with mounting an ubuntu iso to a flash drive so that I can reinstall with a 64bit OS on my machine
[03:53] <NeedFreedom> krababbel: Yeah. Like I (tryed) to say, I used the network manager tab before trying the pppconf. I created the dsl connection. But it didn't startup it, neither I found anyplace (like the networkmanager menu to ask for dial up it).
[03:54] <blackshirt> chalcedony, you mean for installed or downloaded ?
[03:54] <DBoyz> the instructions in http://askubuntu.com/questions/125947/can-i-update-from-ubuntu-12-04-desktop-i386-iso-file doesn't seem to work
[03:54] <oldwhatevernuts> does anybody know where to get good info on airodump-ng when using linux
[03:54] <krababbe1> gkatsev: maybe replace the uuid with the /dev/sd.. ?
[03:55] <DBoyz> it requested for password. i keyed in my password and nothing happened next
[03:55] <chalcedony> blackshirt, i'm somewhere in the printer software installation. it's hard to know what the words should be
[03:55] <Gerowen> ak5: Glad it worked for ya, :-)
[03:55] <NeedFreedom> krababbel: As this installation is already f***ed up, I'll install xubuntu 12.10. But i suspect i'll have the same problem, because after this precise installation I tryied the quantal, but it was extremelly slow (like, 1 minute to open a window). And in the quantal I gotta the same issue
[03:56] <gkatsev> krababbe1: trying out "ntfs-config" if that doesn't fix it, i'll try /dev/ and the options in that line.
[03:56] <gkatsev> brb
[03:56] <krababbe1> NeedFreedom: looks like a network manager issue?
[03:58] <krababbe1> gkatsev: there is also the possibility to install the ntfs-3g driver and replace ntfs with ntfs-3g in fstab.
[03:58] <blackshirt> chalcedony, i don't understand whta you mean, sorry
[03:58] <SierraAR> Alright found another way to do this. Whats the full path of the home directory on ubuntu?
[03:58] <SierraAR> .. Nevermind. I feel derpy. /home.
[03:59] <NeedFreedom> krababbel: maybe. I think the expected behaviour is to give a option to dialup it . My ethernet (eth0) was down, so this can confused the network manager. But If it expect a dsl connection to be dialled up only on ethernet, it's wrong
[04:00] <krababbe1> NeedFreedom: yes, could be the combo of pppoe over wifi, never used that and I don't use network managaer at all.
[04:00] <krababbe1> seems unfinished in some areas
[04:01] <gkatsev> krababbe1: looks like ntfs-config did just that, re: ntfs-3g. Going to try /dev/sd...
[04:04] <chull> blackshirt http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/faq_prn.html#f00104
[04:04] <chalcedony>  chull is my husband's computer
[04:06] <NeedFreedom> How do I turn off the network manager to use only the /etc/network/interfaces config????
[04:06] <SierraAR> Alright time to reboot and reinstall the 64bit version of ubuntu
[04:10] <blackshirt> hello, is there crucial differences between nat, bridging, and host only in vbox network type ?
[04:12] <blackshirt> needfreedom, you can disable networkmanager service at boot, or changes managed to false for network manager to not handle eth0 interfaces
[04:12] <blackshirt> hello, is there crucial differences between nat, bridging, and host only in vbox network type ?
[04:16] <ak5> Gerowen: can you pastebin your sources.list
[04:17] <ak5> Gerowen: I need to get all these repos up, I realized I have nothing
[04:17] <Gerowen> ak5: Ok, just remember to replace "quantal" with "precise for all yours.
[04:18] <Gerowen> ak5: http://paste.debian.net/209435/
[04:19] <thrownawaytrash> hey guys, anyone not AFK? quick question here if you guys don't mind
[04:20] <TheChemist> I'm here
[04:21] <thrownawaytrash> Hey Chemist, let me type in the Q... a little long
[04:22] <ak5> Gerowen: whats the difference between *-updates repos and th other ones
[04:23] <Gerowen> ak5: Not entirely certain, I haven't messed with mine since I installed ubuntu, there may be some from google that got added automatically, but that's it
[04:23] <ak5> ok
[04:23] <thrownawaytrash> 2 questions really (1) is it possible to have grub installed on a usb key, but the real installation of linux/ubuntu be in the real HDD? (link to the post i made on reddit for more clarification http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/134x7c/trying_out_ubuntu_with_wubi_takes_a_long_time_to/c70yox0)
[04:26] <Stanley00> thrownawaytrash: yes, it is.
[04:26] <TheChemist> I am not entirely sure, I don't believe so I don't see a logical way it can happen. Someone with more extensive knowledge may have a different answer but I (non difinitevely) have to say no
[04:26] <TheChemist> There you go, ty Stanley00
[04:27] <thrownawaytrash> alright. may have been possible in theory, but i guess it's probably too complicated to implement
[04:28] <Stanley00> thrownawaytrash: I have seen many people install grub to USB *by mistake* and they cannot boot into ubuntu when unplug the USB ;)
[04:30] <thrownawaytrash> well, that sort of is like the idea. have a physical key so that i can boot it as well as leaving the bootsector of the HDD in tact. so that when i don't want to test out ubuntu anymore i can just reclaim the HDD space in windows
[04:31] <Gerowen> Here's something that's pretty cool, but I have a question about it.
[04:31] <Gerowen> http://workshop.chromeexperiments.com/stars/
[04:31] <Gerowen> It says that my video card does not support WebGL.  I'm guessing that's because I'm using the open source ATI drivers?
[04:31] <Stanley00> thrownawaytrash: sorry, but I have to go now.
[04:34] <thrownawaytrash> well if it's not possible or very hard, second question is that. say I do a proper dual boot, partition HDD to ext and have grub in the HDD and all, how do I take the ubuntu out when I want to? last time I did this, grub installed BEFORE the windows boot loader and I coulndn't boot to windows. this guy here (http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/134x7c/trying_out_ubuntu_with_wubi_takes_a_long_time_to/c716cph) says this is 
[04:34] <thrownawaytrash> that's what I need to do to get back to proper booting order
[04:34] <ak5> How do I hold packages via apt?
[04:34] <thrownawaytrash> thanks, stanley00
[04:36] <Tex_Nick> thrownawaytrash : are yoy installing a dual boot system with M$soft windows & Ubuntu ?
[04:36] <gkatsev> how can I make ubuntu 12.10 not enable click-to-focus every several reboots?
[04:37] <TheChemist> Can someone give me the syntax for 10.04 to install a driver for my wireless usb adapter
[04:37] <almoxarife> Gerowen: do you have chrome/chromium web browser?
[04:37] <TheChemist> and possibly a download link for the last (not current) driver for the Belkin F9L 1002v1 Adapter
[04:39] <almoxarife> thrownawaytrash: you thought about a wubi install of ubuntu?
[04:40] <dj_p3> quick question. I installed ubuntu server to play with a few weeks ago on my extra laptop but I now need the laptop. Is making work like ubuntu desktop (obviously with all the server stuff installed still) as simple as a apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[04:40] <Gerowen> almoxarife: Yeah I've tried it in Chrome and Firefox, it works in Firefox, it's just slow.  In Chrome I get the message telling me it doesn't support WebGL.
[04:41] <Tex_Nick> thrownawaytrash : when you remove ubuntu partitions ... use the Windows Install disk to fix the MBR
[04:41] <thrownawaytrash> almoxarife: that was actually what i have right now, however booting to it takes several minutes, and was told that you get a performance hit since it's still installed on an ntfs partition instead of a linux one
[04:42] <almoxarife> Gerowen: i dont use chrome, o use chromium, i am not sure why there would be a diff in capabilities, but its worth a try, then again your graphics could just not support it after all, which is it?
[04:43] <thrownawaytrash> Tex_Nick: just to clarify, boot into the windows CD, run command prompt and type in fixmbr, that's it, right?
[04:43] <Gerowen> almoxarife: I have an ATI Radeon HD 3100, which was left out of the loop for the latest proprietary ATI drivers, so I'm stuck using the open source ones, which seem to work well enough for me, but not well enough for Chrome to run WebGL apps, :-(
[04:44] <almoxarife> thrownawaytrash: do this, within win check the state of your ntfs system, checkdisk? defrag? , wubi has no control over the state of the ntfs system, yet it has to live in it
[04:44] <Tex_Nick> thrownawaytrash : yes ... that will get you back to a windows boot
[04:44] <TheChemist> Can someone give me the syntax for 10.04 to install a driver for my wireless usb adapter
[04:44] <Tex_Nick> thrownawaytrash : what version od win r u running ?
[04:45] <thrownawaytrash> win7 home 64
[04:45] <dj_p3> Gerowen: I came in late on your issue here so not sure the exact problem, have you tried the nightly chromium build?
[04:45] <almoxarife> Gerowen: i ran wubi for a few years, minutes to bootup is just too long, something is not running right
[04:46] <thrownawaytrash> Tex_Nick: i have the windows ISO already on USB too, just want to know if the procedure to get back to normal windows would be that easy
[04:46] <almoxarife> Gerowen: better yet, install virtualbox, install buntu as a guest, then be really cool and run seamless
[04:46] <Gerowen> dj_p3: I was just playing around with the new Google stars experiment at http://workshop.chromeexperiments.com/stars/
[04:47] <thrownawaytrash> almoxarife: i will definitely do that.
[04:47] <Gerowen> dj_p3: It runs in Firefox, but lags, so I installed Chrome just to give it a shot, and Chrome tells me my machine doesn't support WebGL and doesn't even attempt it.
[04:47] <thrownawaytrash> thank you all for the advice, might see me again  though. for now, work
[04:47] <thrownawaytrash> thanks again!
[04:48] <Gerowen> almoxarife: I don't really like Windows, I don't have a single computer with a Windows partition on it, so running ubuntu as a guest on an Ubuntu machine would be kind of redundent, :P
[04:48] <Tex_Nick> thrownawaytrash : yep it's that easy ... i play with dual boots a lot ... win & ubuntu ... it's common practice
[04:49] <almoxarife> Gerowen: my mistake, wrong nick, dont be a purist, dont you even keep a copy of win on virtual? i do
[04:49] <dj_p3> Gerowen: Hmmm, i have the same problem,  it doesn't work in chrome and is slow with firefox.
[04:49] <blarg> hi guys
[04:49] <almoxarife> Gerowen: have you tried installing the drivers for your card via 'jockey'
[04:50] <blarg> my nvidia driver is not loading on startup.  i can modprobe it, restart the session manager and it seems to work, but the system refuses to load the module.  update-alternatives lets me select any of the several nvidia kernals i have installed but the system still refuses to load them.
[04:51] <blarg> is there any way to force the system to load the driver on boot?
[04:52] <gkatsev> any ideas how to disable click-to-focus? Ubuntu 12.10 keeps enabling it (against my will). I prefer focus-follows-mouse.
[04:52] <Tex_Nick> thrownawaytrash : if you're not comfortable with linux file system you might want to delete partitions thru windows ... if you're more comfortable with win
[04:55] <Gerowen> almoxarife: I installed "jockey-gtk", but can't seem to get it to open at all.
[04:56] <Gerowen> I installed it, but when I try to run it from the terminal it just tells me it's not installed.
[04:58] <keith_> alsamixer show "M0" under my speaker 1. Pressing m switches it to "0M". But I want them to both be the same, i.e. "00" or "MM", how do I do this?
[04:58] <dj_p3> Gerowen: What happens if you go to chrome and type in chrome://gpu-internals  ?
[04:58] <phreck> fireworks
[05:00] <Gerowen> dj_p3: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1359600/
[05:00] <Gerowen> dj_p3: Guess it's the open source drivers, oh well.
[05:04] <tester> hey guys
[05:07] <visof> hello
[05:08] <visof> i want to run script every 3 second, what should cron be ?
[05:09] <almoxarife> Gerowen: do you have the headers for the kernel installed? , if this command takes then you dont, 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic'
[05:09] <tester> i have a question can some people help me
[05:09] <blackshirt> hello tester
[05:09] <tester> sup
[05:09] <Gerowen> almoxarife: I do.
[05:10] <blackshirt> !ask | tester
[05:10] <tester> i have a hp pavilian g series and wifi is not working
[05:11] <almoxarife> tester: on the machine you are on right now?
[05:11] <Tex_Nick> I'm considering a Nexus 7 for the grandkids christmas gift ... I have them running ubuntu now on 2 desktops ... they love it ... can anyone tell me how the new ubuntu port to nexus 7 is working ... good or not good
[05:11] <tester> yws
[05:11] <tester> yes'
[05:12] <ms_> ms_ joined #ubuntu........    hey!!! hi everyBody :)
[05:13] <almoxarife> tester: try to start your wifi thru what ever means you would use, i assume it wont work, then pastebin file /var/log/syslog
[05:14] <tester> oh ok
[05:14] <tester> command not found
[05:15] <tester> pastebin file /var/log/syslog it say command not found
[05:15] <tester> oh and i have black ubuntu
[05:15] <Derp> hehe
[05:15] <almoxarife> tester: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[05:16] <keith_> I have created a script to handle the muting/unmuting for my computer. It works fine when I run it from the terminal. But when I use the keyboard settings and disable the Audio mute button in Sound and Media and then create a custom shortcut using the Audio mute button which executes my script, it doesn't work properly. How can I fix this?
[05:16] <tester> unable to locate
[05:17] <almoxarife> !pastebin | tester
[05:17] <karlpinc> How do I report a bug?  This  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=531078  is fixed (and fixed in debian stable), but not fixed in Ubuntu lucid lts.
[05:21] <tester> almoxarife: im still lost i havent used ubuntu in years
[05:22] <arinov_> hi
[05:22] <almoxarife> tester: the file to share is /var/log/syslog , you could copy paste it to http://paste.ubuntu.com and then share the url created by the site
[05:22] <arinov_> which program can download whole website content?
[05:23] <arinov_> i tried wget -rv and it downloads only one php file
[05:24] <almoxarife> arinov_: you want to mirror the site?
[05:24] <t35t0r> anyone able to get webgl working with google-chrome-beta v23+ ubuntu 12.10, intel core graphics? Works for me in firefox. Tried google-chrome --disable-gpu-blacklist, went into chrome://flags also and made sure the disable web-gl api is disabled but still no go
[05:25] <arinov_> almoxarife, just save
[05:25] <almoxarife> t35t0r: i have same graphics, chromium works out of the box for me
[05:27] <Tex_Nick> arinov : try a strawbery perl install ... there are several perl scripts that will allow you to do just that
[05:28] <t35t0r> ok it's --ignore-gpu-blacklist
[05:28] <tester> i setill need help cansome one pm me
[05:28] <t35t0r> about::gpu to test
[05:28] <tester> i still need help can someone om me
[05:28] <almoxarife> tester: where is the pastebin?
[05:29] <tester> what is that
[05:29] <tester> i havent used this in along time
[05:29] <almoxarife> !pastebin | tester
[05:29] <tester> what am i supposed to do ?
[05:30] <almoxarife> tester: the file to share is /var/log/syslog , you could copy paste it to http://paste.ubuntu.com and then share the url created by the site
[05:30] <syq> I wrote an init scripts and put it to /etc/init.d, then service fdjfjdjf start/stop/status can work
[05:30] <syq> while when reboot, it can not boot
[05:30] <tester> ohhh
[05:30] <tester> ok one
[05:30] <syq> It seems that it even didn't execute at all
[05:31] <t35t0r> damnick, webgl is so much faster with chrome than with firefox
[05:31] <t35t0r> hah stupid autocomplete :(
[05:31] <almoxarife> syq: looked at /var/log/syslog ? see what happened?
[05:32] <tester> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1359638/
[05:32] <syq> almoxarife: nothing happend, even I put "date > /tmp/tmpfile" on the top of script, it shows nothing
[05:35] <sbarreros> Hello all, Is there a way that a user can connect to my ssh server from a workstation and then I would like to use that connection to somehow connect back to the workstation?
[05:35] <tester> @almoxarife:http://paste.ubuntu.com/1359638/
[05:38] <tester> hello? almoxarife
[05:38] <almoxarife> tester: what kind of wifi connection is that?
[05:39] <lordlekalum> how do load 12.10 on my pc from a usb drive?
[05:39] <tester> i dont have wifi connectional all i dont think dirvers for the wifi device intergrated in my pc
[05:40] <almoxarife> tester: are you tethering with a phone?
[05:40] <tester> no im using my modem
[05:40] <almoxarife> syq: pastebin the file /var/log/syslog
[05:41] <kushal_k`> lordlekalum: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[05:50] <almoxarife> tester:  i am confused, how do you get wifi? model and connection type
[05:52] <tester> in not connected to wifi im hardwired into dls modem
[05:55] <ms_> test
[05:55] <ms_> test00
[05:56] <lollko> morning
[05:56] <ms_> test01
[05:56] <cookie1980> morning
[05:56] <Jordan_U> ms_: Please stop that.
[05:56] <almoxarife> ms_: take it to #test
[05:57] <simplew> i have tried to upload a  package into launchpad but when is missing 1 k to end the upload it stops and the task remains unfinished, does anyone have a clue about whats happning?
[05:57] <alof_> tester, if your answer has not yet been answered here you may find more help at #linaro
[05:58] <ms_> Jordan_U: ok,  it was just a test. But did u listen sth or ....?
[05:59] <Jordan_U> ms_: This channel is for Ubuntu support questions, not for tests. Like almoxarife said, next time please use #test for tests.
[05:59] <whatwhat> so 11.04 no longer
[06:00] <whatwhat> supported
[06:00] <whatwhat> so what should i do now
[06:00] <almoxarife> alof_: what is #linaro?
[06:00] <whatwhat> can i upgrade to 11.5
[06:00] <Jordan_U> !eol | whatwhat
[06:00] <alof_> well supported has always been a stretch for 11.04
[06:00] <alof_> linaro is the version of linux that 'tester' is running
[06:00] <almoxarife> alof_: got you,
[06:01] <almoxarife> !linaro
[06:01] <alof_> :)
[06:01] <almoxarife> alof_: i dont think tester ever brought up 'arm' :)
[06:01] <ms_> Jordan_U: before I will use this I've to learn how to use this. I saw that this make some of u angry hein.... lol. ok I'll not repeat it again and again.... ok ok ok ok
[06:02] <simplew> almoxarife: linaro its a distro
[06:03] <simplew> so no one have a clue why my package isnt upload into launchpad...
[06:04] <almoxarife> simplew: clueless
[06:05] <alof_> sry simplew
[06:05] <tester> humm no one is on that #linaro
[06:06] <tester> hello i have a hp pavilian g series pc and running Black ubuntu my intergrated wifi card and dirivers are not reconized by ubuntu black
[06:07] <dwarder> i'm in a dir that got deleted and created how do i "refresh" it withoute doing cd ..; cd mydir
[06:07] <Stanley00> tester: what is your ubuntu version?
[06:07] <Jordan_U> simplew: The exact command you're running and its full output might help.
[06:08] <tester> ubuntu black
[06:08] <Jordan_U> dwarder: What's wrong with "cd ..; cd mydir"? You can also do: cd "$PWD"
[06:09] <Stanley00> tester: you can look at the channel topic to see we don't support ubuntu "black"...
[06:09] <alof_> tester, not trying to be rude but have you googled 'blackbuntu wifi troubleshooting' there seems to be a bandwagon for your issue
[06:10] <tester> yes i counldent find it and thats not rude
[06:10] <almoxarife> tester: really? you are using sniffer/cracker/ buntu and you cant get wifi working? its time to downgrade a bit buddy!
[06:10] <dwarder> Jordan_U: what if it is a long path?
[06:11] <alof_> tester, have you tried using the nvidia driver?
[06:11] <tester> noway i like it im trying to learn it
[06:11] <tester> oh im on a laptop
[06:11] <almoxarife> alof_: nvidia for wifi?
[06:11] <Jordan_U> dwarder: Then 'cd "$PWD" ' should still work.
[06:11] <alof_> almoxarife, whoa, watchit buddy!!! lol
[06:12] <simplew> Jordan_U: i dont think will help in anyway but you can see it http://paste.ubuntu.com/1359681
[06:12] <alof_> almoxarife, it's after midnight
[06:12]  * alof_ needs sleep
[06:12] <simplew> Jordan_U: when misses 1k to finish upload it simply stops
[06:12] <Jordan_U> simplew: Try asking in #launchpad.
[06:13] <Aprel> Using udfstools/mkudffs, how can I add a "title" when creating a UDF image; "title" meaning the string that displays as the drive when the cd is inserted.
[06:13]  * alof_ chucks up some duces and heads to bed
[06:15] <Aprel> Or does anyone know what that disc label is called? It's the equivalent of mkisofs -V "this label"
[06:16] <Stanley00> Aprel: just look at the man page, it's --vid or --lvid
[06:17] <dwarder> Jordan_U: indeed thanks ;0
[06:17] <dwarder> :)
[06:17] <whatwhat> so what's the spec required to the lastest ubuntu
[06:17] <Jordan_U> dwarder: You're welcome
[06:17] <whatwhat> will the updater resume where it stop when connection drop
[06:17] <Aprel> Stanley00: yeah, I saw that, but wasn't sure which. Wanted to dblcheck before creating and burning.
[06:17] <Jordan_U> whatwhat: Yes.
[06:19] <marsfligth> My Precise has the 80 port open and Apache answers too. I never opened it and no applications asked me the permit. This means that if I'd a internal modem to connect directly to wan, for instance, all the word should visit my Apache server entering into my Computer. Why Ubuntu put in so in risk the users giving a false sense of security?
[06:20] <whatwhat> so what's the spec required to the lastest ubuntu
[06:21] <almoxarife> marsfligth: so, what you are saying is that 'apache' came preloaded on precise?
[06:21] <Stanley00> marsfligth: apache is not installed by default.
[06:21] <Aprel> marsfligth: probably because if that wasn't the default, most people would complain that they installed Apache and can't figure out why it's not accepting connections.
[06:22] <almoxarife> marsfligth: and you of course did not install it, are you behind a router/firewall?
[06:22] <leftist> morning. is it possiblee to run ubuntu on a microsoft surface platform?
[06:23] <leftist> i dont have any touch screens so i dont have any familiarity with using linux of any variety on that platform
[06:23] <almoxarife> leftist: at the very least you should be able to run it virtual(virtualbox)
[06:23] <leftist> yeah
[06:23] <marsfligth> almoxarife: yes fortunately
[06:23] <leftist> is the platform that closed?
[06:24] <no-n> I get no sound from my headphones. This didn't work http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/04/headphones-not-working-no-sound-under.html
[06:24] <almoxarife> marsfligth: thank god you didnt open yourself to the world
[06:24] <leftist> btw is this freenode?
[06:25] <bazhang> leftist, ask in #freenode
[06:25] <almoxarife> yeap, freenode
[06:25] <leftist> ok
[06:25] <leftist> :)
[06:25] <almoxarife> bazhang: still being mr wonderful, i see
[06:25] <bazhang> almoxarife, pardon me?
[06:26] <almoxarife> bazhang: its called humor
[06:26] <bazhang> almoxarife, care to PM with me?
[06:26] <almoxarife> bazhang: sure, give me a sec, i need to unset something
[06:28] <leftist> i've been running ubuntu on various platforms since hoary.  i currently have a few laptops with 10.10 and 10.04.  i know 10.10 is dead.  i don't dig the windows managers these later version default to.  i'm kinda out of date with the scene i guess.
[06:28] <leftist> my question is can i maintain my current 10.10 interface with whatever the current release lts ver is today?
[06:28] <leftist> i cant relate to the default interfaces i have seen. they suck.
[06:29] <Jordan_U> leftist: No, but you can get something very similar from XFCE (Xubuntu).
[06:29] <marsfligth> This is an anomaly. Keep as exemple windows from xp sp2, before to open a port it asks if you agree or not even if it is apache or skype. So, the world is migrating to Linux because it is secure and what we discovwery? it opens wan ports ww/o ask to the pc owner. this is a terrible manner to abandon the users and during the time maybe be an insecurity like this should emigrate again them
[06:30] <leftist> yeah i looked at probably 50 different distros but i prefer 10.10/10.04 environment. so i am really stuck.
[06:31] <marsfligth> Anyway, using Precice I'm secure as if I'd using windows 2k more or less. It for instance opens the ports w/s ask
[06:31] <no-n> I get no sound from my headphones. This didn't work http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/04/headphones-not-working-no-sound-under.html
[06:31] <Stanley00> marsfligth: are you sure about that? I think it just open to *localhost* only...
[06:31] <marsfligth> great shot linux guys
[06:31] <Jordan_U> marsfligth: If you don't have a support question please take this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere.
[06:32] <Jordan_U> Stanley00: No, it's definitely open to the world.
[06:32] <marsfligth> im morre than sure I teste wit nmap many times
[06:32] <Stanley00> nmap run on localhost?
[06:32] <Stanley00> marsfligth:  nmap run on localhost?
[06:33] <Jordan_U> Stanley00: Installing Apache causes Apache to listen on port 80, for connections from anywhere.
[06:33] <leftist> zenmap is nice
[06:33] <Stanley00> Jordan_U: how about iptables, and ufw?
[06:33] <marsfligth> Jordan_U: then security questions are off topic? if yes this is the reason because Ubuntu is totally insecure
[06:34] <marsfligth> Stanley00: no, from another Ubuntu into my LAN
[06:35] <Jordan_U> marsfligth: You haven't asked a security question, you've stated your opinion about a decision to configure Apache to listen on port 80 by default. We don't control the decisions of the Ubuntu developers, and you aren't asking a technical support question. Please take offtopic discussion elsewhere.
[06:36] <marsfligth> Stanley00: Ok, IPtables and ufw hardering the os, but i cant understand why the most insecure os in the world ask before open a port and Ubuntu not
[06:37] <Stanley00> marsfligth: OK, I got it. Now you can look at what Jordan_U said.
[06:37] <twins> Ok, Thank you
[06:37] <SwedeMike> marsfligth: file a feature request with ubuntu for the functionality. That is going to be more productive than trying to continue your discussion here.
[06:38] <twins> oh, that's all right
[06:38] <marsfligth> Jordan_U: what the sense to speak about tecnichal question wile maybe some one is 'rm -rf' my system from wan. do you understant what i mean or have i to be more clear?
[06:39] <twins> aha
[06:39] <putkonen> hi
[06:39] <twins> but ...en
[06:39] <putkonen> is there some problem with extras.ubuntu.com?
[06:39] <putkonen> cannot access it
[06:39] <jaxdahl2> possibly.
[06:40] <putkonen> W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/i18n/Translation-en  Unable to connect to extras.ubuntu.com:http:
[06:40] <twins> No networking~
[06:40] <twins> apt-get install or update
[06:40] <Tm_T> putkonen: hi, you might like to ask/poke people at #canonical-sysadmin (:
[06:40] <jaxdahl2> http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/extras.ubuntu.com
[06:41] <putkonen> down it is then
[06:41] <leftist> here is a very good article on http://www.zdnet.com/does-the-surface-spat-open-the-door-for-linux-7000002268/
[06:42] <Jordan_U> marsfligth: This channel is not for discussion of technical policy with reguard to Apache. If you want to know how to stop Apache from listening to port 80, that is a valid support question and we will be glad to help you there.
[06:44] <jiltdil> How to password protect bittorrent in ubuntu for normal user
[06:44] <twins> @leftist:very good!
[06:45] <almoxarife> jiltdil: it is password protected , the user has to log in with a password dont he?
[06:46] <jiltdil> almoxarife, Oh ! please understand my question
[06:47] <jiltdil> almoxarife, To open bittorent he need sudo privalages i mean to say
[06:47] <oldwhatevernuts> hello
[06:48] <almoxarife> jiltdil: to open the client ?
[06:48] <jiltdil> almoxarife, Yes
[06:48] <marsfligth> Jordan_U: come on Jordan, don't joke please. By google if one is not able to close the door find all instructions in minutes w/o ask here. the problem is not Apache at all, the problem is Ubuntu and how we speak about security problem in here, i think to pretend that an os asks before open ports putting the user in serius risks, this for me is a very big problem tath cant be solved by sending a nice mail to devoplers.
[06:48] <marsfligth> obyously the should ask only if many users ask the same. this should be my target
[06:48] <Stanley00> jiltdil: well, why don't you give the read and execute permission to the user yo want?
[06:48] <jiltdil> almoxarife,Means When a normal user in my machine want to open bittorent he will ask for sudo password
[06:49] <jiltdil> Stanley00,  For Torrent , how to do this?
[06:49] <almoxarife> jiltdil: you could make the client a 'root' only process?
[06:49] <jiltdil> almoxarife, Please tell how to do this
[06:50] <Stanley00> jiltdil: what is the command to run bittorent? chmod o-rwx command-here
[06:50] <almoxarife> jiltdil: but i am not sure what the outcome the output from the client would be afterwards, i am guessing the files become owned by root
[06:50] <Stanley00> jiltdil: then chgrp that prog, and add user to the group. that's easy.
[06:51] <jiltdil> StackProphet, almoxarife Ok i am trying
[06:52] <almoxarife> i like the idea of 'group' better, makes it cleaner
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> I have one (and only one) 12.04 system that's refusing to upgrade aptitude to the latest version, always saying it's been kept back.  The installed is 0.6.6-1ubuntu1 and the candidate is 0.6.6-1ubuntu1.1 - anyone know what's going on there?
[06:52] <blackshirt> almoxarife, what you mean with it ?
[06:53] <Tm_T> tonyyarusso: what happens if you do "sudo apt-get install aptitude" ?
[06:53] <tonyyarusso> Tm_T: aptitude : Depends: libapt-pkg4.12 (>= 0.8.16~exp12ubuntu10.3) but 0.8.16~exp12ubuntu10.2 is to be installed
[06:53] <Tm_T> tonyyarusso: it might tell you why it doesn't upgrade (missing dependency, conflict, etc)
[06:53] <Tm_T> there you go
[06:54] <almoxarife> blackshirt: <Stanley00> jiltdil: then chgrp that prog, and add user to the group. that's easy. <-- what Stanley00 said
[06:54] <Tm_T> tonyyarusso: next step, same summoning for that dependency to see why it doesn't upgrade
[06:55] <tonyyarusso> Tm_T: No higher candidate of that one...my mirror must be wonky.
[06:55] <tonyyarusso> Tm_T: wait, scratch that.
[06:55]  * tonyyarusso can't read
[06:55] <leftist> @ twins it's all about money. but you can't talk about it in this channel anyway.
[06:56] <tonyyarusso> Tm_T: There's a newer version but with a lower priority?
[06:56] <tonyyarusso> Tm_T: http://pastebin.com/CmuN4Vuh
[06:57] <Miscni> question: anybody know a how to; how to add Nvidia-settings GPU Scaling
[06:57] <dixoncx> Please Help.. Suddenly my root filesystem freespaces suddenly droped to less than 300mb. After restarting system, it shows 3.5 GB free. (deleted some unwanted files manually too). Here are some screenshots: nautilus properties- http://i.imgur.com/3UODg.png , System monitor- http://i.imgur.com/SbPGG.png , disk usage analyser- http://i.imgur.com/wgwAN.png
[06:59] <Ben64> dixoncx: whats your question
[07:00] <dixoncx> Ben64: How to regain free space ?
[07:00] <Ben64> by deleting files
[07:00] <Ben64> you could also try bleachbit
[07:01] <Ben64> !info bleachbit
[07:02] <dixoncx> Ben64: kindly check screenshots. naulilus shows used space in home as 3.2 GB, look disk analyser - it shows 19Gb used ???
[07:04] <Ben64> dixoncx: run this in the terminal and pastebin the output - "du -h ~/ --max-depth 1"
[07:04] <no-n> what is the difference between apt-get remove and apt-get autoremove?
[07:05] <wastrel> you use apt-get remove to uninstall a package,  apt-get autoremove  removes packages that were installed as dependencies that are no longer necessary
[07:08] <dixoncx> Ben64: here: http://pastebin.com/2HVvNH52 It shows: 18G     /home/dixon/
[07:10] <Ben64> dixoncx: you must have a lot of files in your home directory taking up that space
[07:12] <dixoncx> Ben64: But nautilus says /home/dixon contains 18,370 items, totalling 3.2 GB
[07:13] <Ben64> so? du shows it as ~14GB
[07:14] <dixoncx> Ben64: means ?
[07:14] <Ben64> you have about 14GB of files in your home directory
[07:15] <almoxarife> dixoncx: no, you have 2.3gig of free space, as per nautilus
[07:16] <dixoncx> almoxarife: I agree, but this:  contains 18,370 items, totalling 3.2 GB
[07:16] <Ben64> I don't know why you're arguing
[07:17] <dixoncx> Ben64: I want to delete all those expect this 3.2 GB from my home folder.
[07:17] <almoxarife> dixoncx: try this, reboot, and look at the result, does it change? i see what you are saying, there is a mis-match somewhere
[07:18] <Ben64> who knows how nautilus counts it though
[07:18] <Ben64> maybe it skips hidden files
[07:19] <almoxarife> dixoncx: but as Ben64 said, 'bleachbit' would help
[07:20] <almoxarife> dixoncx: where the command failed as shown in your last pastebin, those are root owned files in a user dir/folder, are they counted?
[07:21] <almoxarife> dixoncx: run nautilus as gksu, do the numbers change?
[07:22] <Ben64> I don't even see the problem. du shows accurate numbers
 they are online radio playlist files. Nautilus says: 12 items, totalling 0 bytes
[07:24] <almoxarife> dixoncx: that total is impossible, run 'gksu nautilus --no-desktop , see any diff?
[07:26] <almoxarife> dixoncx: who owns the files in this dir /home/dixon/Desktop/Desktop/Radio/Radio ??? btw, that is not a healthy looking tree,
 'gksudo  nautilus' says same, as /home contains:  18,385 items, totalling 3.2 GB. Also what is --no-desktop option ?
[07:27] <almoxarife> dixoncx: so that you dont start a nautilus desktop, dont want to have two
 <almoxarife>: they are online radio playlist files. Nautilus says: 12 items, totalling 0 bytes <-- what did gksu nautilus say about them? they actually zero content?
 ls -l of ../Radio: http://pastebin.com/8j6Ew09F
[07:31] <dixoncx>  gksu nautilus says same.
[07:32] <almoxarife> dixoncx: as it should
 All those wired things happened with in just  2 hours. Before i had more than 50% free space in root file system.
[07:34] <Ben64> dixoncx: if you don't mind us seeing all your files, pastebin "ls ~/ -hoaSr"
[07:34] <almoxarife> dixoncx: install 'fslint' look for dups within your home dir
[07:35] <almoxarife> dixoncx: you have the dir 'desktop' inside of the dir 'desktop'
 yes
[07:36] <almoxarife> dixoncx: you have radio dir in radio dir too
 "ls ~/ -hoaSr" shows -rw-------  1 dixon  14G Nov 15 12:03 .xsession-errors.old !!! Whats this ?
[07:36] <Ben64> there you go
[07:36] <Ben64> 14GB
[07:37] <Ben64> like I predicted
[07:37] <jacta> when installing ubuntu and windows7 as dualboot, which system is best to put in first?
[07:37] <Ben64> jacta: windows
[07:38] <almoxarife> Ben64: wont the ubuntu install replace MBR with grub2?
[07:38] <Ben64> almoxarife: yeah, thats how you'd want it
[07:38] <almoxarife> Ben64: you better tell jacta
[07:39] <almoxarife> some people wig when they dont see their win boot thing
 <almoxarife>: why 14GB .xsession-errors.old in my system ? can i delete it ?
[07:39] <Ben64> if you install windows second, it overwrites the MBR and doesn't give you a way to boot ubuntu
[07:39] <Ben64> dixoncx: Yes you can delete it. You must have had a LOT of errors recently.
[07:39] <aristidesfl> I'm trying to deal with a router which doesn't allow the dns  or dhcp server to be configured and I want to use a different dns server but then I can't access computers in my local network using their hostnames and since the dhcp server can't be configured, they will have different IP's from time to time. Is there a way of falling back to the router dns server when a name is not found, or to use the router dns server only for certain hostna
[07:39] <aristidesfl>  so I can still use the external dns server, except when I want to access computers in the local network?
[07:40] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: router issue?
[07:40] <Ben64> aristidesfl: you could either get a new router, or have a computer provide dhcp and dns services
[07:41] <aristidesfl> I can't neither
[07:41] <aristidesfl> that's why I'm trying to find a suitable configuration
 Thanks, deleted. 14 GB of errors !!
[07:41] <aristidesfl> which allows my server to reach my laptop
[07:42] <aristidesfl> almoxarife ISP router
[07:42] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: if you use the computer with ubuntu on it, it can act as a dns/dhcp server
[07:42] <aristidesfl> almoxarife but then I will have 2 dhcp servers
[07:43] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: so you have a router then that does provide dhcp
[07:43] <aristidesfl> yes
[07:43] <aristidesfl> can't be turned off
[07:43] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: you want to provide dns?
[07:43] <aristidesfl> it already dow
[07:43] <aristidesfl> does
[07:43] <aristidesfl> but I don't want to use that dns server
[07:43] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: which?
[07:43] <aristidesfl> I want to use google's
[07:44] <aristidesfl> I don't want to use the router's because it's configured with the ISP servers which are slow
[07:44] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: you want to use your own dns on your computer?
[07:44] <aristidesfl> I want to use 8.8.8.8
[07:44] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: you want to use your own dns on your computer?
[07:45] <aristidesfl> almoxarife I don't think so
[07:45] <burtonium> i guess he wants dhcp to delegate googles dns instead the ones ISP has allocated
[07:45] <aristidesfl> burtonium no
[07:45] <aristidesfl> dhcp delegates router's IP
[07:45] <aristidesfl> dhcp delegates router's DNS*
[07:46] <aristidesfl> which is configured with ISP DNS
[07:46] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: you can set your machine to its own dns
[07:46] <aristidesfl> so I want to bypass routers DNS except for certain hostnames
[07:46] <aristidesfl> like the hostname of my laptop
[07:46] <aristidesfl> needs to be resolved by the router's DNS
[07:47] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: so you do want to setup a dns(cache) at least on your machine
[07:47] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: or another machine within the network
[07:48] <aristidesfl> I'm listening
[07:48] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: look at 'dnscache' package
[07:48] <aristidesfl> how will that resolve the situation
[07:48] <arunkumar413> how to share laptop  wireless internet with other computer using  the ethernet port
[07:49] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: you dont control the router it seems
[07:50] <aristidesfl> I don;t
[07:50] <aristidesfl> keep going
[07:51] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: you dont want to use the dns as per the router, you need to have something that will, BIND9 and dnsmasq will do that, i would not recommend bind9, unless you already know dns
[07:51] <almoxarife> aristidesfl:  what version of ubuntu you have?
[07:52] <aristidesfl> almoxarife but how will my dns server know the hostnames of other computers in the local network?
[07:52] <aristidesfl> 12.04
[07:53] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: the host names to ip are kept in /etc/hosts
[07:53] <arunkumar413> join #raspberrypi
[07:53] <aristidesfl> almoxarife who puts them there?
[07:53] <marun> aristidesfl: you should manually create A records and PTR records in your zone file... If you have own dns
[07:53] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: thats the easy part, unless you have alooooooooooooooot of them
[07:53] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: you do
[07:53] <aristidesfl> almoxarife but the ips are random
[07:53] <aristidesfl> assigned by the dhcp server
[07:54] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: random? within a internal network?
[07:54] <aristidesfl> yes
[07:55] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: thats right, you dont control the router, if they are random i have no idea, that issue i have not had to resolve on this end,
[07:55] <aristidesfl> http://www.mbpgsu.ca/mbpblog/files/2010/12/facepalm-500x400.jpg
[07:56] <jacta> Ben64, and would you suggest 12.04 or 12.10?
[07:56] <Ben64> jacta: 12.04 has longer support, and will upgrade directly to 14.04
[07:56] <burtonium> you can't simply solve your problem, since you don't control your routers dhcp and dns settings
[07:56] <iwaffles> Any reason why I can ssh but not sftp any longer with one particular user account on my server?
[07:57] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: are you saying that some comp on the network could have the ip of some other comp on the same network within days?
[07:57] <burtonium> so you will have to get yourself a decent router or you can forget simple solution
[07:57] <aristidesfl> almoxarife yes
[07:57] <aristidesfl> every time I connect to the network I could have a different IP
[07:58] <burtonium> your dhco server should have option to bind mac address to certain IP address
[07:58] <burtonium> so you will always get same ip
[07:58] <aristidesfl> it doesn't
[07:58] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: let me guess, you wifi in to it too
[07:58] <aristidesfl> it's locked down by the ISP
[07:58] <burtonium> call them to give you a password
[07:58] <almoxarife> burtonium: he does not control the router :)
[07:58] <burtonium> of a router
[07:59] <aristidesfl> almoxarife I control it
[07:59] <burtonium> i know, so he should call his IPS to give him control
[07:59] <aristidesfl> but it's locked down
[07:59] <burtonium> you own your LAN
[07:59] <aristidesfl> burtonium they wont
[07:59] <burtonium> they can't own your LAN, no way
[07:59] <aristidesfl> it's their equipment
[07:59] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: then you want to stop the random stuff, fix the machines to an ip
[07:59] <aristidesfl> and they have a backdoor
[08:00] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: mac to ip?
[08:00] <aristidesfl> almoxarife but then I have to re-configure it to dhcp when I leave the house
[08:00] <aristidesfl> and then back to static when I arrive
[08:00] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: see the link you posted, good luck
[08:01] <juniour> can nay one naem good video,photo editor
[08:01] <marun> hi how to i create automatic proxy configuration script in squid? I want to deploy this file in all the client browsers in my network
[08:01] <juniour> can any one name good video,photo editor
[08:02] <burtonium> GIMP for pictures
[08:02] <Stanley00> juniour: imo : openshot, gimp, inkscape
[08:02] <burtonium> video I dont know
[08:02] <juniour> int this which one is good
[08:02] <juniour> imo : openshot, gimp, inkscape
[08:03] <marun> any suggestions about my question?
[08:03] <Stanley00> juniour: imo: all of them is good. That's why I list it here.
[08:03] <Stanley00> *are
[08:03] <juniour> k thaks
[08:03] <juniour> :)
[08:03] <almoxarife> aristidesfl: i dont know what router you got, mine runs dhcp with mac reservation if wanted, mine is about the avg router out-there, seems to me that option is open to you, thats all i got
[08:04] <marun>  hi how to i create automatic proxy configuration script in squid? I want to deploy this file in all the client browsers in my network
[08:04] <Stanley00> marun: try asking in #squid
[08:05] <marun> stanley00: ok Thank you
[08:05] <almoxarife> !squid
[08:05] <Stanley00> !away | Albastos|off
[08:07] <meant0m> whats the off topic channel name?
[08:07] <Stanley00> !ot > meant0m
[08:09]  * meant0m thanks Stanley00 
[08:09] <iwaffles> Anyone know why I cannot login via sftp but I can via ssh?
[08:10] <juniour> is there any download manager like idm(windows) for ubuntu 12.04LTS
[08:10] <Stanley00> iwaffles: so what happens?
[08:11] <iwaffles> Gets rejected automatically, not sure why
[08:11] <ix_> how do I setup lilo on ubuntu? I've installed it, I've installed it on the mbr, now what?
[08:11] <Stanley00> juniour: there downthemall addon for firefox
[08:11] <Stanley00> ix_: why lilo? grub is better.
[08:11] <iwaffles> Stanley00: I can log in using other accounts on sftp, but not mine
[08:12] <ix_> Stanley00, I have a problem and I want to test if grub is the problem, sometimes when booting, I get a blinking cursor just afret grub
[08:12] <juniour>  Stanley00 installing Gimp,Inkspace,Openshot thanks for suggestion
[08:12] <ix_> after
[08:12] <iwaffles> Grr guess it was a problem with the authorized_keys
[08:12] <iwaffles> oops.
[08:12] <Stanley00> iwaffles: ah, well, I can't help you with that, never use sftp before. sorry.
[08:13] <juniour>  Stanley00 k
[08:13] <Stanley00> juniour: :)
[08:18] <jidor> hello
[08:18] <Smoochict> hello jidor
[08:19] <juniour>  Stanley00 any good video format convertor or video to mp3 convertor
[08:19] <juniour>  Stanley00 i know about ffmpeg
[08:19] <Smoochict> !offtopic | smoochict
[08:20] <juniour> can nay one mane video convertor
[08:21] <Stanley00> juniour: I think openshot can does that, and vlc, mencoder, winffmpeg too. mencoder is command only,
[08:21] <juniour> k
[08:22] <jacta> Ben64, thanks :)
[08:23] <jidor> How to open a txt Files in terminal?
[08:23] <Smoochict> jidor: you can use an editor called vim/vi or one called nano if you have it installed.
[08:23] <jidor> I don't mean that
[08:24] <brontosaurusrex> juniour: ffmpeg
[08:24] <jidor> If i wanna view a PDF
[08:24] <Smoochict> like open a windows to edit the text file?
[08:26] <brontosaurusrex> juniour: my script looks like : ffmpeg -i "$files" -vn -y -f wav - 2> /dev/null| $lame --preset standard - "$out.mp3"
[08:26] <brontosaurusrex> but there is also an option to use intergraded lamer
[08:26] <juniour>  brontosaurusrex there are to many thing in ffmpeg
[08:27] <juniour> :)
[08:28] <endstille> good morning, i have a question about git. i pulled a change, that made my software unusuable. how can i revert the change locally? i'm new to git.. thank you =)
[08:28] <vividor_follador> ofjkerog
[08:28] <vividor_follador> hola
[08:28] <vividor_follador> jiòiger
[08:28] <vividor_follador> çholoa
[08:28] <vividor_follador> alguien kiere saqlami???
[08:29] <brontosaurusrex> juniour: sure, and it lacks proper documentation
[08:29] <vividor_follador> holoaaa
[08:29] <avelldiroll> juniour: are you searching for a gui or a command line tool ?
[08:29] <jidor> Yeah
[08:29] <vividor_follador> hoolaaaaaaa
[08:29] <vividor_follador> fjihewg+
[08:29] <porno> ola
[08:29] <brontosaurusrex> juniour: basically the more you read than "man" dumbest you are, should be smarter instead ...
[08:29] <vividor_follador> hola
[08:29] <juniour>  avelldiroll any one so i can use smoothly
[08:29] <somsip> vividor_follador: do you have a support question?
[08:29] <vividor_follador> gkjhegr
[08:29] <vividor_follador> jrdsi+
[08:29] <ikonia> !es | vividor_follador
[08:29] <vividor_follador> hollaaaaaa
[08:30] <porno> q tl con santi
[08:30] <jidor> the cmd [open flename.pdf in IOS is proper]
[08:30] <somsip> !ops vividor_follador is spamming
[08:30] <vividor_follador> gilipollas
[08:30] <avelldiroll> juniour: that does not answer my question, there is a ton of them
[08:30] <somsip> !ops | vividor_follador is spamming
[08:30] <juniour> brontosaurusrex the documentation of ffmpeg sucks
[08:30] <ikonia> porno: vividor_follador enough
[08:30] <somsip> ikonia: ah - soz
[08:30] <ikonia> somsip: it's fine
[08:30] <juniour> commandline
[08:30] <avelldiroll> juniour: for a gui, i would go to avidemux, for a cli i would stick to ffmpeg
[08:31] <juniour> k
[08:31] <avelldiroll> or mencoder or cvlc
[08:31] <juniour> thanks :)
[08:31] <juniour> kzxjbcxzjg
[08:34] <endstille> !de | endstille
[08:53] <Chartax> Hi everyone, I was wondering if someone could help me out with a rather odd issue. I'm running Ubuntu 12.10 and occasionally have issues connecting to my WPA2-Personal secured wireless network
[08:53] <Chartax> Sometimes, it connects, and other times it can't see any networks
[08:54] <Chartax> Windows seems to work fine with it, however, which would lead me to believe it's some sort of driver issue.
[08:55] <Stanley00> Chartax: what is your wifi card? I had this problem with broadcom BCM 4313 before.
[08:56] <Chartax> It's integrated with the motherboard, a Ralink 802.11 bgn 1T1R
[08:56] <Leonard2> How do I ask questions?
[08:56] <Stanley00> Leonard2: you did ask a question.
[08:57] <Leonard2> I noticed.  Thanks.
[08:57] <Stanley00> Chartax: did you try look at additional driver?
[09:00] <Chartax> In the settings? Yeah, all I had was Nvidia stuff
[09:00] <Chartax> I searched around and found a "driver" on their website
[09:00] <Chartax> but I have no idea how to use the file I downloaded, or even if it's valid: it appears to be 0 bytes
[09:00] <Leonard2> I have downloaded the following drivers PrintSettingUtility, Smartpanel and UnifiedLinuxDriver from Samsung.  These are for my printer/scanner CLX-3185.  I don't know how to install these drivers under Ubuntu 12.10.  What do I do?
[09:01] <Chartax> and has the name "DPO_RT5572_LinuxSTA_2.6.1.3_20121"
[09:01] <Stanley00> Chartax: can you run this command and pastebin the output "lspci -kv"
[09:01] <Stanley00> !paste | Chartax
[09:03] <Chartax> Stanley00, if I can't get on the wi-fi, that could be tough, let me see if I can work something out.
[09:04] <jenenliu> hi, guys, my firefox cost too much cpu when it is working on my ubuntu laptop, someone help? thanks.
[09:04] <Stanley00> Chartax: I think the file you downloaded must have some README or INSTALL file. you can look at that. Actually, I don't know how to deal with this ralink
[09:05] <Chartax> Alright, on my cellphone now, please excuse any awful typos
[09:05] <brontosaurusrex> jenenliu: use some other browser? there is gazzilion of them to try
[09:06] <jenenliu> brontosaurusrex: it is the same result when I use chromium
[09:06] <OerHeks> jenenliu, how much ram does your laptop have ?
[09:06] <brontosaurusrex> jenenliu: then it may not be browser related
[09:07] <jenenliu> OerHeks: 200G at least
[09:07] <brontosaurusrex> wow
[09:07] <brontosaurusrex> and i thought my 32G is cool
[09:07] <OerHeks> ram=system memory
[09:08] <jenenliu> OerHeks: I am sorry, 21G
[09:11] <Leonard2> [Quit]
[09:18] <Jordan_U> jenenliu: Your laptop does not have 21 GiB of RAM.
[09:19] <topshare> Eric
[09:20] <Evil_Eric> yes
[09:22] <kanyl> Does smooth scrolling work for macbooks running ubuntu?
[09:23] <brophat> is yahoo.com not rendering right in chrome browser?
[09:23] <jenenliu> Jordan_U: really?
[09:23] <jenenliu> Jordan_U: it is 21
[09:24] <Jordan_U> jenenliu: I guess it's possible, but it's highly unlikely that you have 21 GiB of RAM in a laptop.
[09:24] <Jordan_U> jenenliu: What is the output of "free -m"?
[09:25] <jenenliu>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[09:25] <jenenliu> Mem:          1905       1332        572          0         28        870
[09:25] <jenenliu> -/+ buffers/cache:        433       1471
[09:25] <jenenliu> Swap:         3767          0       3767
[09:25] <eatpoosay> hi
[09:25] <eatpoosay> ubuntu fags, use debian instead
[09:27] <sica> HI, I have an Ubuntu 12.04, on which I try to build the Android 4.0.4 source code. The issue is that when I run the make command, after 3 hours or building I get the error
[09:27] <sica> javadoc: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:27] <sica> javadoc: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:27] <sica> make: *** [out/target/common/docs/doc-comment-check-timestamp] Error 45
[09:27] <sica> make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
[09:27] <sica> make: *** [out/target/common/docs/api-stubs-timestamp] Error 45
[09:27] <FloodBot1> sica: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:28] <sica> if i run the ldd java command
[09:28] <sica> i get
[09:28] <sica> linux-vdso.so.1 =>  (0x00007fffe99dd000)
[09:28] <sica> 	libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007f28880d0000)
[09:28] <sica> 	libjli.so => not found
[09:28] <sica> 	libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0x00007f2887ecb000)
[09:28] <sica> 	libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007f2887b0c000)
[09:28] <sica> 	/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f2888307000)
[09:28] <brophat> is yahoo.com broken in chrome for past couple days?
[09:28] <FloodBot1> sica: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:28] <jmfurlott> Trying to install ubuntu to an iMac….but after I boot from the disc the screen goes black.  If I let go long enough I can hear the ubuntu start up sound so it must be a problem with my video drivers (ATI something). Any ideas?
[09:29] <OerHeks> sica plese don't paste like that, use paste.ubuntu.com
[09:29] <sica> ok, sorry
[09:29] <gordonjcp> jmfurlott: nomodeset?
[09:30] <jmfurlott> gordonjcp, if you talking about a parameter to set when the cd boots, I can't the screen goes black just after it turns purple from initialing loading the cd
[09:30] <Jordan_U> jenenliu: That's 2 GiB, not 21.
[09:30] <sica> can anyone help me with libjli.so not found problem?
[09:30] <gordonjcp> jmfurlott: do you even get the boot selector screen up?
[09:30] <jmfurlott> gordonjcp, nope it goes black too quickly
[09:31] <jenenliu> Jordan_U: I am sorry, so do you know why my firefox costs so many cpu, thanks
[09:31] <OerHeks> sica plese use paste.ubuntu.com so we can read the problem
[09:31] <Jordan_U> jenenliu: No, I don't.
[09:31] <jmfurlott> gordonjcp, oh wait i got the screen finally
[09:31] <jenenliu> Jordan_U: anyway, thanks
[09:31] <gordonjcp> jmfurlott: at the boot selector screen it should just be in VESA mode
[09:32] <Jordan_U> jenenliu: You're welcome. Wish I could have been of more help.
[09:32] <sica> target Java: Browser (out/target/common/obj/APPS/Browser_intermediates/classes)
[09:32] <sica> javadoc: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:32] <sica> javadoc: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:32] <sica> make: *** [out/target/common/docs/doc-comment-check-timestamp] Error 45
[09:32] <sica> make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
[09:32] <FloodBot1> sica: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:32] <sica> make: *** [out/target/common/docs/api-stubs-timestamp] Error 45
[09:32] <jmfurlott> gordonjcp, weird this is the first time i have gotten it
[09:32] <gordonjcp> jmfurlott: you're going to need to start asing the channel now, I'm off to drill holes in lorries
[09:32] <jmfurlott> gordonjcp, have fun (?) thanks man
[09:33] <OerHeks> sica, if you refuse to use paste.ubuntu.com i can't help you, good luck.
[09:33] <sica> target Java: Browser (out/target/common/obj/APPS/Browser_intermediates/classes)
[09:33] <sica> javadoc: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:33] <sica> javadoc: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:33] <sica> make: *** [out/target/common/docs/doc-comment-check-timestamp] Error 45
[09:33] <sica> make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
[09:33] <FloodBot1> sica: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:33] <sica> make: *** [out/target/common/docs/api-stubs-timestamp] Error 45
[09:33] <sica> but I am using it
[09:34] <MonkeyDust> sica  open this page and paste there http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[09:34] <sica> yes, afterwards I click the Paste! button
[09:34] <sica> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1359923/
[09:35] <NeilB4Zod> What are the differences between Ubuntu and Debian?
[09:35] <sica> sorry, I didn't slept too well last kinght
[09:37] <somsip> NeilB4Zod: this might help http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/9459/differences-between-debian-and-ubuntu
[09:37] <MonkeyDust> NeilB4Zod  there are plenty site about it, here's one http://www.datamation.com/osrc/article.php/3890111/Debian-vs-Ubuntu-Contrasting-Philosophies.htm
[09:38] <Jordan_U> sica: If you flood the channel again I will have to remove you. Please only supply pastebin links for anything more than one line.
[09:38] <sica> yes, I get it now, I wasn't familiar with this
[09:39] <sica> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1359923/ <- here is my problem
[09:40] <almoxarife> sica: you are missing libjli.so
[09:41] <sica> I get that
[09:41] <almoxarife> sica: ok
[09:41] <sica> but why? I installed java from sun
[09:42] <almoxarife> sica: compiling from source?
[09:42] <sica> using jdk-6u37-linux-x64.bin
[09:42] <lesshaste> how do you set actions for mailto: links in firefox?
[09:42] <iceroot> sica: why not installing openjdk from the repos?
[09:42] <brontosaurusrex> lesshaste: something in about:config ?
[09:43] <iceroot> sica: and there is no "java from sun"
[09:43] <almoxarife> lesshaste: http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/change-program-used-open-email-links :)
[09:43] <lesshaste> brontosaurusrex: sadly no
[09:43] <sica> I can't tell why, but I need to install the java from sun
[09:43] <sica> sorry
[09:43] <sica> from oracle
[09:44] <iceroot> sica: ok
[09:44] <lesshaste> almoxarife: thanks.. it just seems to do nothing
[09:44] <almoxarife> lesshaste: what did you put in the box?
[09:44] <melvincv> hi. To list all processes on the system, Isn't # ps -ef   enough? What does # ps -eaf  do?
[09:45] <ludolan> hi. I randomly suppress the task bar (in kde). How can i refind it ?
[09:45] <lesshaste> almoxarife: I changed it to "always ask"
[09:45] <lesshaste> almoxarife: nothing happens at all sasdly
[09:45] <melvincv> [the option -a in the man page does not make any sense to me]
[09:45] <sica> actualy, I can find the libjli.so under /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.6.0_37/jre/lib/amd64/jli
[09:46] <iceroot> melvincv: -a does not show all but -A does. -a has two exceptions
[09:47] <almoxarife> sica: is that the installed package, the one that actually runs java?
[09:47] <ix_> does it matter if I set the resolution 1360x768 on a 1366x768 screen?
[09:47] <sica> yes as far as I know
[09:47] <sica> after I run sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:47] <sica> that's what I select
[09:48] <almoxarife> sica: but it seems like you are compiling from source
[09:48] <almoxarife> ix_: should not
[09:48] <sica> what do you mean?
[09:49] <melvincv> iceroot: but isn't # ps -ef enough? Do I need to add -A option to it?
[09:50] <almoxarife> sica: looking at your paste, 'make' is used in compiling from source, unless java does something different with 'make'
[09:51] <melvincv> btw I've just installed the new Quantal, Unity seems faster...
[09:51] <sica> yes
[09:51] <iceroot> melvincv: -e              Select all processes. Identical to -A.
[09:52] <iceroot> melvincv: and -f is just for the format, so its fine to have all processes
[09:53] <sica> almoxarife: I managed to solve it, I copied the libjli.so to /usr/lib/
[09:54] <sica> this seems to resolve the problem, but it's still a wierd behaviour
[09:54] <sica> thanks !
[09:54] <almoxarife> sica: good luck,
[09:55] <lipeng> Are you here?
[09:55] <lipeng> Hello!
[09:55] <zack6849> hey guys, i have a quick question, if anyone here happens to know java that is
[09:56] <zack6849> would ~/irc/ be a valid filepath?
[09:56] <jnhghy> Can anybody help me with mod_rewrite? I need to add a word to my permalinks example: www.site.com/?s=...&sa=... to become www.site.com/word/?s=...&sa=... feel free to PM with this, Thank you
[09:59] <lipeng> I think ~/irc/ is valid filepath
[09:59] <babyswizz> please I run ubuntu 12.10 as a vm on virtual box and windows 7 host, my problem is that it run very slow what can I do?
[10:02] <almoxarife> babyswizz: whats your total ram and how much did you give vbox?
[10:02] <andrea_> can i open a proces such al firefox for example with a bash script, but without having the console itself interactingo with the program being launched?
[10:02] <DBoyz> Hi. I am trying to make Intel® Centrino® Advanced–N + WiMAX 6250 work on ubuntu 12.10 (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1359965/). Now how do I search for networks and connect? I have tried wimaxcu but it says: [wimaxcu: command not found ]
[10:03] <lilcyber> At the top left do you see a wifi icon?
[10:03] <babyswizz> I used the defualt r.a.m which I think is 8mb
[10:03] <almoxarife> babyswizz: 8? system ram?
[10:04] <lipeng> babyswizz: I think you are joking
[10:04] <almoxarife> babyswizz: 540mb system ram
[10:09] <melvincv> thanks
[10:11] <melvincv> good, I get the full path of the process with # ps -ef
[10:11] <melvincv> what is the PPID?
[10:12] <patr|ck> the ubuntu 12.04 installer will not recognize the LVM volume group. what can i do about it?
[10:13] <babyswizz> almoxarife, my system ram is 4gb but I think I allocated 8mb to the vm
[10:13] <almoxarife> babyswizz: 540mb system ram
[10:13] <richhelm> tengo una consulta, tengo instalado xubuntu 11.10 y cuando quiero instalar los controladores nvidia, luego meda un error yno pueo acceder al entorno gráfico
[10:13] <tsimpson> melvincv: parent process ID
[10:14] <richhelm> ya lo he reinstalado 3 vces el dia de ayer
[10:14] <almoxarife> !es
[10:17] <ljunggren> hi, freshly installed ubuntu 12.04.. i get problem with jockey.gtk that i havent had with my wubi install...decided to wipe computer and install only ubuntu.. now i have these issues with graphics card, i cant chose any other driver then jockey crash
[10:19] <Stryker> any terraria players on?
[10:19] <rnamF> hello all
[10:20] <patr|ck> is there not "alternate installer" iso fpr 12.10?
[10:20] <rnamF> need some help with ubuntu karmic, i need to update apt, sources.list etc
[10:20] <rnamF> any clue on how to start?
[10:21] <OerHeks> rnamF, karmic 9.10 is EOL, so you better upgrade
[10:22] <rnamF> damn this is a production machine that just felt into my hands
[10:22] <rnamF> FML
[10:22] <OerHeks> !upgrade
[10:22] <rnamF> gonna read about it OerHeks
[10:22] <rnamF> ty!
[10:27] <caddoo> I'm trying to install skype using apt-get, ive had a version installed previously but i removed and purged it
[10:28] <caddoo> but when running the command i get the error 'skype: 2.2.0.35-0maverick1 (Multi-Arch: no) is not co-installable with skype:i386 4.1.0.20-1 (Multi-Arch: no) which is currently installed'
[10:28] <caddoo> How can i remove this other version
[10:28] <exalt> hello why does my system not have crc32c kernel module : http://pastebin.com/vsjUj53V ?
[10:31] <Sourire> personne pour parler francais?
[10:31] <devswap> i cant get a large mp4 film to play without being jerky when it plays on a mac without a problem. I think I have installed all codecs but not sure and tried vlc, mediaplayer, mplayer, xine - could I do any more or is it never going to play?
[10:32] <somsip> !fr | Sourire
[10:33] <cloudy> devswap, try smplayer
[10:33] <devswap> cloudy: not heard of that - what different vs mplayer?
[10:34] <cloudy> devswap, not sure what the differences are, but my experience has been that it runs smoother.
[10:36] <tf198> caddoo: dpkg -l skype*  - anything marked as installed?
[10:37] <caddoo> tf198: http://pastesite.com/83824
[10:40] <zack6849> hey guys, i installed a java package for java 7 but my java program for java 6 wont run.
[10:40] <zack6849> it throws unsupported major minor in ubuntu, but works fine on my windows machine
[10:40] <zack6849> any ideas why?
[10:40] <subb1> Hello.
[10:41] <subb1> could someone pass suggestions on this:
[10:41] <tf198> caddoo: dpkg -P skype skype-bin skype-common skype-mid
[10:41] <wastrel> zack6849: which java are you using?    update-alternatives --config java
[10:41] <subb1>  Say I  have a php binary installation already.  I  want to upgrade  to next version through a manual installation from source,  then  what is the first st Say I  have a php binary installation already.  I  want to upgrade  to next version through a manual installation from source,  then  what is the first step?  Do we begin by uninstalling  the old binary installation? ep?  Do we begin by uninstalling  the old binary installation?
[10:41] <zack6849> im using openjdk
[10:41] <caddoo> tf198: all reported back no packages
[10:41] <devswap> cloudy: think thats running it better thanks - must be using the same codecs as mplayer but why it works in one and not the other I have no idea
[10:42] <kskrueger> hi
[10:42] <kskrueger> have i arrived?
[10:42] <MonkeyDust> kskrueger  you're in
[10:43] <Fandekasp> hi there. I have to burn a dvd for someone, from a VIDEO_TS and in remote (connected via ssh). google tells me I need dvd+rw-tools, but aptitude can't find it. Any idea why ?
[10:43] <kskrueger> hi! i am looking for a person from ubuntu to communicate about their trademarks (i.e. use of the ubuntu logo)
[10:43] <tf198> caddoo: and still the same output for dkpg -l skype*
[10:43] <DBoyz> hmm probably i need wimax-tools (https://github.com/ago/wimax-tools). where should "/path/to/" in "./configure --with-i2400m=/path/to/i2400m/driver" be pointing though? anyone able to help?
[10:43] <caddoo> ah no tf198 ok
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> kskrueger  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic, ask there
[10:44] <DJones> kskrueger: That might be best asked in #ubuntu-marketing
[10:44] <zack6849> my god
[10:44] <zack6849> i love you wastrel
[10:44] <kskrueger> @monkey dust you make it foolproof, which i greatly appreciate :)
[10:44] <zack6849> i couldnt find that anywhere
[10:44] <cloudy> devswap, that is also my experience. Can you tell me what kind of hardware you have and whether you are running open source drivers or proprietary ones?
[10:44] <caddoo> tf198: http://pastesite.com/83825
[10:44] <kskrueger> thanks!
[10:44] <kskrueger> i will give it a try there
[10:44] <caddoo> from dpkg -l skype*
[10:45] <wastrel> zack6849: the alternatives system is an interesting bit of symlinkery
[10:46] <zack6849> im a tad new to ubuntu
[10:46] <zack6849> i can get around
[10:46] <zack6849> but i get lost sometimes :D
[10:46] <tf198> caddoo: ah its globbing your deb file
[10:46] <tf198> caddoo: dpkg -l "skype*" -  with quotes
[10:47] <zack6849> anyways, thanks fo rhtat wastrel :)
[10:47] <zack6849> imma go ahead and leave now though
[10:47] <zack6849> Bye :D
[10:47] <caddoo> tf198: http://pastesite.com/83827
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> caddoo  in my experience, skype from the repos is unstable
[10:48] <caddoo> MonkeyDust: yes, i had a beta installed from there
[10:48] <caddoo> then downloaded a deb from skype.com
[10:48] <blaz_> hi guys... does matlab 2012b work on 12.10?
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> !find matlab
[10:49] <OerHeks> blaz_, sure >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MATLAB
[10:49] <cnf> anyone know how to disable ctrl-scroll font resizing in konsole?
[10:50] <melvincv> http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/why.html Reading the features list table. So 'systemd' has more performance than 'Upstart'?
[10:50] <blaz_> thanx, but that is for 2012a, 2012b is an upgrade, is it still ok?
[10:50] <cnf> or disable any font resizing on konsole
[10:50] <blaz_> !find matlab
[10:51] <tf198> caddoo: I think you were globbing your installer with the purge as well
[10:51] <caddoo> right
[10:51] <caddoo> so the uninstaller is broke?
[10:52] <OerHeks> blaz_, i have no info on 2012b
[10:52] <blaz_> thanx anyway :D bye
[10:54] <melvincv> :O Ubuntu need defragmenting? How do we do that? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1434502
[10:54] <dddbmt> Hello all.. I have a problem that the scrollwheel on my mouse is pasting from my clipboard when clicked... This is really annoying when scrolling through a large file and accidentally pasting stuff everywhere.
[10:54] <dddbmt> Any pointers? ^
[10:55] <Isfirs_92> hey. how can i search in my directory for a subdirytory?
[10:55] <Isfirs_92> *subdirectory
[10:55] <melvincv> Or does Ubuntu auto-defragment the HDD?
[10:56] <caddoo> tf198: is there anything i can do to resolve this
[10:59] <MonkeyDust> !defrag > melvincv
[11:00] <tf198> caddoo: when you do dpkg -r skype you get 'ignoring request to remove skype which isn't installed'?
[11:01] <caddoo> tf198: dpkg: warning: there's no installed package matching skype
[11:02] <tf198> caddoo: your deb database is a bit messed up then
[11:02] <caddoo> right
[11:03] <caddoo> well i'm gonna format on the weekend, so ill leave it for now.
[11:03] <tf198> caddoo: you might have to hold out for someone with a bit more knowledge of the dpkg system - I dont want to bork your system :)
[11:03] <caddoo> thank you for your help tf198
[11:03] <OerHeks> caddoo, to remove orphan dependencies, try sudo apt-get autoclean
[11:04] <caddoo> no luck OerHeks, thank you though
[11:04] <caddoo> cleaned up somethings though
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> caddoo  try sudo apt-get autoremove
[11:04] <caddoo> 0
[11:05] <dr_willis> package management can be such a...err... interesting  problem.
[11:05] <dr_willis> to put it nicely.
[11:07] <melvincv> I'm confused. Some say Linux filesystems do not need defragmentation. Some say they do.
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> whattayaknow! downloads on ubuntu-tweak.com are discontinued
[11:07] <tf198> caddoo: does dpkg -C give you anything useful?
[11:07] <dr_willis> melvincv:  ive never had to defrag one. they basically auto defrag i guess..
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> melvincv  just sent you something, see what ubottu says
[11:07] <Tm_T> melvincv: in general, you don't (but that's oversimplified)
[11:07] <melvincv> I read that the inode table does not get fragmented. Doesn't mean that the actual data is also contiguous.
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> !defrag | melvincv
[11:08] <dr_willis> MonkeyDust:  got it from a ppa just the other day..  not heard any news about it
[11:08] <caddoo> yes tf198!
[11:08] <dr_willis> could be they went 'ppa only' to get ubuntu-tweak now
[11:09] <caddoo> tf198: http://pastesite.com/83830
[11:10] <tf198> caddoo: dpkg --configure skype:i386
[11:10] <tf198> caddoo: after configuring you should be able to remove it
[11:10] <andrea_> any way i an run via terminal a program but w/out keeping busy that window?
[11:11] <jrib> andrea_: append "&" to your command
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> andrea_  add a &
[11:11] <caddoo> tf198: dependancies
[11:11] <caddoo> prevent configuring
[11:11] <tf198> caddoo: dpkg -r skype:i386
[11:12] <dr_willis> andrea_:  using the close button on the termanil may close that app however. exit command may keep it running, or learn to use screen,tmux,byoby, or nohup
[11:12] <dr_willis> byobu ;
[11:12] <caddoo> ok tf198, ran the configure flag again, http://pastesite.com/83832
[11:14] <nForz> hello world
[11:15] <tf198> caddoo: actually shouldn't need to configure
[11:16] <tf198> caddoo: dpkg -r skype:i386
[11:16] <tf198> caddoo: and then when it fails add --force-<bit that failed> flag
[11:17] <caddoo> ok i think its done.
[11:17] <caddoo> Now tf198 i want to get the latest deb from skype.com
[11:19] <angs> what is the command to see the current time of the system?
[11:20] <jrib> angs: date
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> angs  date
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> angs  it's the subject of jokes, you have to type date to see the time
[11:21] <tf198> caddoo: Hopefully the 12.04 multiarch deb will behave itself
[11:23] <tf198> caddoo: Just tried it on my 12.10 and it worked fine
[11:23] <angs> MonkeyDust, jrib: thanks. I am trying to correct the time of my system: I type "echo "Sweden/Stockholm" | sudo tee /etc/timezone" then  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure --frontend noninteractive tzdata" . However it outputs Current default time zone: 'Etc/UTC' Local time is now:      Thu Nov 15 11:22:45 UTC 2012. However, the current time in here is 12:23
[11:23] <caddoo> what version is it
[11:23] <angs> how can I fix it?
[11:24] <meant0m> melvincv, ubuntu-tweak
[11:24] <angs> could it be related to winter/summer time?
[11:24] <tf198> caddoo: skype-ubuntu-precise_4.1.0.20-1_i386.deb
[11:24] <caddoo> tf198: I just tried got skype 2.2 (beta)
[11:25] <tf198> caddoo: http://beta.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-computer/
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> angs  read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeAndDate
[11:27] <jrib> angs: try Europe/Stockholm
[11:29] <angs> jrib: Europe/Stockholm fixed it. Thank you
[11:30] <jrib> angs: yeah, it's probably easier to just run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" and then select from there
[11:32] <angs> thank you
[11:36] <uovobw> hi all, i have a problem with an init script. I have ubuntu server 12.04.1 configured to have, in /etc/event/tty6.conf i commented the last line and replaced with exec /sbin/agetty --autologin ale tty6 . I then added, to my profile in bash, the famous if that checks if $DISPLAY is NOT defined and if i am in the tty6 (via $(tty) ) and then starts x with exec startx . I am _sure_ i go inside the correct if (i touch some debug files around and they
[11:36] <uovobw> i have removed all login managers, i have dpkg-reconfigure'd x11-common to let all users startx
[11:36] <uovobw> any suggestions? thanks in advance
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> uovobw  there's also #ubuntu-server
[11:37] <uovobw> MonkeyDust: argh, didn't know, will join and ask there as well, thanks
[11:38] <jrib> uovobw: your message was truncated at "debug files around and they ..."
[11:38] <uovobw> jrib: following: debug files around and they get created upon boot) but i _always_ get an x error about the server already being active for display 0.
[11:39] <uovobw> i have been looking at this for a couple of hours now, i am testing with env to see if DISPLAY was already set (it's not) i have checked all the possible *getty programs and they all log me in successfully on tty6
[11:39] <laurus> How similar is Gnumeric to Microsoft Excel?
[11:39] <uovobw> and the if is _always_ executed , but startx (or xinit itself) always error out
[11:39] <jrib> uovobw: I suggest pastebinning the full script and your bash file
[11:40] <uovobw> jrib: the problem is i have the script on a remote machine that i can atm access only via VNC and then putty from there, so it would be hard for me to do
[11:40] <jrib> uovobw: the machine does not have internet access?
[11:41] <uovobw> jrib: it does not, i am VNC-ing to a windows machine that acts as a router, then ssh via putty from there
[11:41] <jrib> uovobw: can't you use winscp on the machine where you use putty to copy the files over to the windows machine and then pastebin there?
[11:42] <jrib> uovobw: also, I would save the full output you're getting on the tty somewhere and pastebin that too
[11:43] <uovobw> jrib: the problem is i cannot install new stuff on the windows machine... but that script is not the problem, i am sure i always get in the correct if in the .profile file end execute the right commands, but both startx and xinit behave as if another X was already running (when there arre none)
[11:43] <uovobw> note that if i run startx or xinit by hand via ssh, it works perfectly
[11:44] <jrib> uovobw: there's some putty-related program that will let you copy files too.  pscp or sftp perhaps
[11:44] <uovobw> jrib: i see,i'll check what i can do, thanks for your time
[11:45] <jrib> uovobw: I don't see any reason for what you describe not to work, thus why I ask for more details :)
[11:45] <Touhou11> laurus: It contains a subset of the features of Excel, it depends what you need to do with it
[11:45] <Touhou11> laurus: OpenOffice has better compatibility for working with Excel documents if you have existing files
[11:45] <Touhou11> laurus: *LibreOffice
[11:46] <laurus> Touhou11, well, I need to use Excel for work, but I don't really feel like reading a 1000-page book on it. So my plan was to read the Gnumeric manual, read the VBA chapters of this Excel book, and assume I can just use Excel with that knowledge. What do you think?
[11:47] <Ard1t> can someone point me to the torrent download of the versions, having hard time finding it
[11:47] <bazhang> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969   Ard1t
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> Ard1t  or this http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[11:49] <Touhou11> laurus: It's similar enough that you could probably learn that way... there's a lot of similarily between the programs. If you want to play with programming and spreadsheets, LibreOffice lets you write in a version of Basic which is fairly similar to VBA, so the concepts would translate
[11:49] <Ard1t> bazhang, MonkeyDust thanks
[11:50] <laurus> Touhou11, thanks! Yeah, I am so used to GNU/Linux that I don't really feel like investing massive amounts of time into something like Excel. Also, I think their "ribbon" menu bar is stupid. :P
[11:50] <Touhou11> laurus: I prefer the Ribbon myself, makes things more discoverable
[11:51] <Ard1t> MonkeyDust: just out of curiositi
[11:51] <laurus> Touhou11, well to each his own! There's so much junk jammed in there, I guess maybe I just hate the way it looks.
[11:51] <Ard1t> MonkeyDust: just out of curiosity, where is the link to the alternative-downloads
[11:51] <Ard1t> because if i go through normal surf i can't find it on downloads
[11:52] <Ard1t> how did you find it basically?
[11:52] <dr_willis> 12.10 dosent have an alternative cd. the minimal cd has a similer function i think
[11:53] <dr_willis> if thats what you are looking for
[11:53] <auronandace> dr_willis: no, he means alternative ways of downloading releases (torrents etc)
[11:53] <larryhu> hello ?
[11:53] <dr_willis> yello larryhu
[11:54] <Ard1t> no i was looking for the server version but i want it to download through torrents, which i'm settled on now, but i couldnt't find the link for download
[11:54] <larryhu> hi dr_willis
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> Ard1t  scroll down http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[11:55] <bazhang> !torrents | Ard1t
[11:55] <larryhu>  all IT workers ？
[11:55] <dr_willis> i wonder why the torrent.ubuntu.com site had  6969 for a port
[11:55] <Ard1t> MonkeyDust: its all good just wondered how did you get the link as i can't surf it out anywhere on the webste
[11:55] <Ard1t> website*
[11:55] <auronandace> larryhu: this is a support channel for ubuntu
[11:56] <larryhu> yes , i know
[11:56] <larryhu> I love ubuntu
[11:56] <Touhou11> !ot | Ard1t
[11:57] <dr_willis> do you have a support question?
[11:57] <larryhu> but it hasn't qq
[11:57] <bazhang> Touhou11, asking for torrents is certainly not offtopic
[11:57] <Touhou11> !ot | bazhang
[11:57] <bazhang> larryhu, empathy supports qq
[11:57] <bazhang> Touhou11, Stop that
[11:58] <andrea_> lmao
[11:58] <Ard1t> Touhou11, i guess i was out of topic, right
[11:58] <bazhang> Ard1t, not at all
[11:58] <larryhu> empathy not support qq'2012 protocol
[11:59] <Evil_Eric> sorry all sorted now
[11:59] <C0deR> cn ne one tell me wht is this error n how to solve [/bin/sh: gmake: command not found ]
[11:59] <larryhu> i need a soft ,  can In the local area network to transfer files
[11:59] <C0deR> cn ne one tell me wht is this error n how to solve [/bin/sh: gmake: command not found ]
[11:59] <dr_willis> C0deR:  install gmake?   try 'gmake --help'
[11:59] <bazhang> C0deR, no need to repeat
[11:59] <larryhu> bazhang ？
[12:00] <C0deR> ok ..
[12:00] <dr_willis> !info gmake
[12:00] <Ard1t> alright then, we'll have a run at this approx in less then 30min, we'll see how it goes, thanks folks
[12:00] <bazhang> larryhu, yes?
[12:00] <dr_willis> !find gmake
[12:00] <C0deR> i did apt-get gmake
[12:00] <dr_willis> if its not installed the 'gmake' command should show you wnat package to install to get it
[12:01] <C0deR> yeah i want to install
[12:01] <larryhu> I need a soft that can transport file in LAN . can you help me ?
[12:01] <dr_willis> if you are compiling stuff you most likely want the build-essential package for starters
[12:02] <auronandace> larryhu: ssh
[12:02] <brantje> When i install 10.04 from cd everything is fine, when i upgrade to 12.04.1 i get weird issue's: Screen is randomly put in standby, UI freezes and crashes
[12:02] <auronandace> !ssh | larryhu
[12:02] <larryhu>  @bazhang I need a soft that can transport file in LAN . can you help me ?
[12:02] <dr_willis> larryhu:  rephrase  that...   if you want to transfer filrs from pc to pc over the lan. ssh is handy with scp
[12:02] <brantje> When i install 10.04 from cd everything is fine, when i upgrade to 12.04.1 i get weird issue's: Screen is randomly put in standby, UI freezes and crashes
[12:03] <C0deR> thnk you guyssss
[12:03] <dr_willis> brantje:  may be better to just do a clean install of 12.01.1 directly
[12:03] <brantje> How?
[12:03] <larryhu> @ALL , but ssh ...,
[12:03] <brantje> Because, i don't have any clean dvd's
[12:03] <dr_willis> get a 12.04.1 cd....
[12:03] <dr_willis> or usb.,
[12:03] <dr_willis> or set up grub to boot the iso..
[12:04] <larryhu> if linux transfer file to windowns , ssh is bad!
[12:04] <Touhou11> larryhu: Could always try Samba
[12:04] <dr_willis> larryhu:  winscp works fine on windows.
[12:04] <andrea_> ssh is bad?
[12:04] <dr_willis> ssh is good...
[12:04] <auronandace> larryhu: re-read the factoid, it mentions putty
[12:05] <dr_willis> for simple file transfers  and no need for 'shares'   ssh/winscp works well
[12:06] <seachdamh> filezilla and filezilla-server is also good choice if you want server on windows side for some reason. But better is have server on linux side and use scp / filezilla client on windows.
[12:06] <Touhou11> larryhu: If you're doing regular backups on a LAN, rsync is best
[12:06] <larryhu> okey , thanks all
[12:07] <larryhu> yes  rsync ,linux - linux
[12:07] <dr_willis> or nfs for linux to linux
[12:07] <dr_willis> i tend to just use ssh and sshfs
[12:07] <Touhou11> I use rsync on Windows too, though it can be annoying to find a decent binary version
[12:08] <larryhu> I found that my English is poor ， haha
[12:08] <larryhu> Touhou11   yes
[12:10] <larryhu> what are you play in ubuntu ?
[12:11] <dr_willis> !games
[12:11] <larryhu> no , no , I don't need game
[12:12] <larryhu> I juest want to know more thing about ubuntu
[12:12] <bazhang> !manual | larryhu start here
[12:14] <skulladminaversi> salut les copain !
[12:14] <larryhu> These ， I understand
[12:14] <xxiao> failed to install markdown then python-markdown on ubuntu
[12:14] <xxiao> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/python-markdown_2.0.3-1_all.deb (--unpack):
[12:15] <xxiao> trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/markdown', which is also in package markdown 1.0.1-7
[12:15] <larryhu> I using Ubuntu ,  about 2 years
[12:17] <west> whats a good virtual  machine for linux
[12:18] <xxiao> kvm,vbox
[12:18] <west> thanks
[12:18] <burtonium> XEN
[12:18] <unehed> does anybody know how to set the default audio cd player via gconf or dconf?
[12:21] <ms_> eh oh!!!! I download files from Transmission, and I have a good rate of bandwith with internet, but I don't know why my download is SO slow???? :(
[12:22] <Touhou11> ms_: Maybe there aren't many seeds for the particular file
[12:22] <larryhu> bye  all
[12:24] <ms_> there are many peers, and shows that downloading is well!!
[12:24] <Touhou11> ms_: Many ISPs speed-limit torrents at certain times, could be that
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> ms_  or the peers may be slow or very busy
[12:26] <dr_willis> 1000+ peers all at 99.90% done... ;)  is always amuseing..
[12:27] <ms_> Touhou11: it shows that the rate is 60kb and here it's already great!!!! I don't know yours.
[12:30] <patr|ck> the maximum volume of the soundchip on my motherboard seems to be too low - any idea how to tune this?
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> patr|ck  type alsamixer, see if you can change something there
[12:31] <devswap> if mplayer isnt playing correctly (its using driver x11 (slow) whats the best driver to try for h264 video
[12:31] <bkc_> devswap: vdpau :)
[12:31] <bkc_> or opengl
[12:31] <gordonjcp> devswap: vdpau if you have nvidia, opengl or xv
[12:31] <patr|ck> MonkeyDust, alsamixer? on Ubuntu 12.10?
[12:31] <ms_> for all of you, I'm not very good with english and sorry if theere are mistakes hein!!!
[12:31] <gordonjcp> pretty much in that order
[12:31] <bkc_> patr|ck: yes?
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> patr|ck  yes, in a terminal
[12:35] <devswap> bkc_: well its in a vm so not sure how the video driver affects that but thanks will give it a try
[12:35] <bkc_> devswap: If you're running it in a VM it's probably gonna be dead-slow anyway... start by turning 3D-acceleration ON in the VM-settings :)
[12:36] <dr_willis> what   vm are you using?
[12:36] <bkc_> (in VirtualBox that would expose opengl 2.1 capabilities)
[12:37] <ms_> for all of you, I'm not very good with english and sorry if there are mistakes hein!!!
[12:37] <rnamF> i'm not being able to update samba 3.4.7
[12:37] <rnamF> to 3.5.x
[12:37] <rnamF> any sugestions?
[12:37] <dr_willis> !info samba
[12:37] <auronandace> !latest | rnamF
[12:38] <rnamF> tks
[12:38] <rnamF> !ppa
[12:38] <devswap> bkc_: thanks I will play - it was doing the same on my dedicated linux laptop but appreciate it isnt going to be the fastest in a vm
[12:38] <dr_willis> rnamF:  what ubuntu relesse?  3.6.6 is the latest in 12.10
[12:38] <Shima> Hello, I will take it in short
[12:38] <Shima> I have added path to <program> into PATH.
[12:38] <Shima> # <program>  //runs ok
[12:38] <Shima> # sudo <program>  //command not found
[12:38] <Shima> # sudo echo $PATH  //path to program is there
[12:38] <Shima> Thanks for advice in advance
[12:38] <FloodBot1> Shima: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:38] <rnamF> 10.4
[12:39] <bkc_> !enter | Shima
[12:40] <bkc_> !paste | Shima
[12:40] <rnamF> should i update to 12.04 ?
[12:40] <Shima> btw running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[12:40] <dr_willis> rnamF:  dependsa on your needs.
[12:40] <blackshirt> !info python-gtk2
[12:40] <rnamF> i just need to update samba
[12:40] <rnamF> that's all
[12:40] <bkc_> rnamF: I'd suggest upgrading to atleast 12.04... depending on needs :)
[12:40] <dr_willis> rnamF:  i always use the latest.
[12:40] <auronandace> rnamF: 10.04 desktop support ends in april 2013, up to you
[12:41] <rnamF> i've already used the PPA repository before
[12:41] <rnamF> even comming here
[12:41] <rnamF> but still it will only install me 3.4.7
[12:42] <dr_willis> you could always use source.. but thats a bit extreme
[12:42] <rnamF> instead of one above 3.5.6
[12:42] <dr_willis> and 10.04 is getting old
[12:42] <rnamF> yeah i'm thinking about it already
[12:45] <dr_willis> whats in the newer versions of samba that you need so badly?
[12:45] <rnamF> bug resolution
[12:45] <rnamF> on samba version
[12:45] <dr_willis> if you are making a box thats just a samba fileserver, there are dedicated distros for that sort of task alsao
[12:45] <rnamF> i know
[12:45] <rnamF> i would install another crap on this
[12:45] <rnamF> its not my machine.. :/
[12:45] <dr_willis> ive no idea how hard samba is to compile. and what other implications that may have.
[12:46] <dr_willis> it would definatly be a 'you are now on your own' situation
[12:46] <compdoc> ubuntu 12.04.01, smbd Version 3.6.3
[12:47] <dr_willis> for a long term answer  - upgradeing to 12.04.1 would be best i imagine
[12:48] <dr_willis> assuming the upgrade dosent break other things
[12:48] <savio> hello
[12:48] <plusEV> test.
[12:48] <dr_willis> test passed...
[12:48] <dr_willis> !ask
[12:51] <Mrokii> Does anybody know if there as an irc-room for google chrome (the browser)? Or did anybody else have a problem no sounds being played in the latest Chrome-versions and solved it?
[12:53] <dr_willis> Mrokii:  not heard of anyone else with that issue.. at least not in here.  no sounds from flash used to be common issue ages ago
[12:53] <dr_willis> Mrokii:  do webm videos from youtube work? or is it all sites?
[12:54] <Mrokii> It's not only YouTube and I thought that I had switched YouTube to webm, but I can check.
[12:54] <ms_> is someone know how to create .pyc in python?????
[12:54] <dr_willis> that pavucontrol panel tool may let you tweak some things.
[12:55] <dr_willis> Mrokii:  not all youtuber videos are in webm so it may be playing in flash even if yiu got it set to use webm/html5
[12:56] <xiaocai> ...
[12:57] <xiaocai> 哈哈
[12:58] <ms_> is someone know how to create .pyc in python?????
[12:58] <somsip> ms_: you just run 'python file.py' and python will create the .pyc
[12:58] <Mrokii> It's only chrome that has this problem though. Other browsers work fine.
[12:59] <Mrokii> Maybe I should try to switch to an earlier version of Chrome.
[13:00] <ms_> somsip: normally it's like that, but I don't know why there isn't!!!
[13:01] <ms_> somsip: it's making .pyc with some files but not with others O_o
[13:02] <somsip> ms_: then #python might be a better place for you to ask
[13:04] <ms_> somsip: ok. thanks. I'll ask there.
[13:05] <Mrokii> dr_willis: Okay, it's the crome version. Chrome stable works without problems.
[13:06] <dr_willis> there ya go ;) time for a bug report.
[13:06] <Mrokii> Yeah, seems so. :)
[13:08] <sam__> who's here?
[13:09] <sam__> hello!
[13:09] <sam__> anyone?
[13:09] <sam__> need help
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> sam__  did you have a question?
[13:09] <sam__> yes
[13:10] <ms_> eh oh! I tried to connect to #python and it told me that I'm not registered and I don't how to get registered there??????????
[13:10] <sam__> I'm on backtrack. unable to see the ethernet adapter!
[13:10] <blackshirt> !register
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> sam__  join #backtrack-linux
[13:10] <sam__> thanks <monkeyDust>
[13:11] <ms_> blackshirt: to register where??
[13:11] <ms_> blackshirt: to register how??
 it says "cannot send to channel"
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> sam__  the register first
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> then*
[13:12] <sam__> listen! its a linux issue
[13:12] <sam__> i believe u can help
[13:13] <Kartagis> sam__: this is #ubuntu, you need to go to recommended channel
[13:14] <bkc_> sam__: goto #freenode ... they can help you :)
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> sam__  backtrack is differet from linux, it's for network intrusion purposes, not for a beginner
[13:14] <sam__> Its about configuring ethernet on linux. I understand, but its fine i believe.
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> sam__  backtrack is differet from ubuntu, it's for network intrusion purposes, not for a beginner*
[13:14] <k1l_> sam__: if its a linux issue try #linux but since you use backtrack most will recommend #backtrack-linux
[13:14] <sam__> okay! thanks all! <over and out>
[13:15] <ms_> is someone here know how to register to #python please
[13:15] <jrib> !register | ms_
[13:15] <k1l_> ms_: ask in #freenode for freenode specific questions
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> ms type /msg nickserv register [password] [email]
[13:16] <DBoyz> I still need help with my previous question. Just informing
[13:17] <k1l_> DBoyz: cn you recall the question?
[13:17] <quick-> Hi guys i am not able to configure thunderbird for ubuntu 12.04 . Please help.
[13:17] <ms_> thanks for all of u dear friends :D
[13:18] <adytza23> hello
[13:18] <k1l_> quick-: what exact problems do you get?  does it give you errors messages?
[13:18] <DBoyz> k1l_: it's about my wimax card - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2084342
[13:18] <adytza23> anybody here that can help me with some questions?
[13:18] <k1l_> !ask | adytza23
[13:19] <qwd> Can I use "Make Startup Disk" to put the installation disc for Debian on a usb drive, or is it Ubuntu only?
[13:19] <bungle666> Hi there, i was wondering if anybody could help me with this?? http://askubuntu.com/questions/217330/ubuntu-12-10-crashing-at-logon-screen-just-goes-funny-then-black
[13:19] <quick-> k1l_: it gives username and passowrd incorrect . But both the username and password are correct . Is it because i am behind a proxy ?
[13:20] <adytza23> i have an asus eepc 1015bx and i can't install neither xubuntu or lubuntu because it gives me a black screen after the instalation is finnished
[13:20] <bungle666> im getting REALLY frustrated with it!
[13:20] <adytza23> anybody knows what\s happening and a fix for it?
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | adytza23 try this
[13:24] <bungle666> There must be someone out there who can help me??!! surely!! :) http://askubuntu.com/questions/217330/ubuntu-12-10-crashing-at-logon-screen-just-goes-funny-then-black
[13:25] <tarelerulz> Do any of you have an nvidia card?
[13:25] <Bier_> why does nothing happen when i open an iso with archive mounter?
[13:26] <laurus> My scrollbars under Adwaita in Openbox are really thin and are missing the arrow buttons. What to do to fix this?
[13:26] <jrib> tarelerulz: just ask your real question
[13:27] <Bier_> oh hey jrib
[13:27] <jrib> Bier_: hi
[13:28] <pybe> is there a way to make 12.10 to redetect nics
[13:28] <blackshirt> pybe, redetect nic ?
[13:29] <brantje> When i install 10.04 from cd everything is fine, when i upgrade to 12.04.1 i get weird issue's: Screen is randomly put in standby, UI freezes and crashes... This also happens when i install 12.04 from usb
[13:29] <tarelerulz> I have nvidia gforce gt 425m . I have this problem with people looking blue on youtube . I have no idea how to fix it
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> tarelerulz  firefox? if yes, disable (or enable) hardware accelleration
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> i forget which ^
[13:31] <brantje> When i install 10.04 from cd everything is fine, when i upgrade to 12.04.1 i get weird issue's: Screen is randomly put in standby, UI freezes and crashes... This also happens when i install 12.04 from usb
[13:31] <pybe> blackshirt, I installed with my laptop connected to a dock and now the nic port on my actual laptop doesnt seem to funtion
[13:31] <tarelerulz> Well,  thanks , I thought I would have to install the nvidia drivers
[13:32] <thank> hello
[13:32] <flurry> yeah
[13:32] <thank> Looking for some assistance with Ubuntu 12.10
[13:33] <flurry> ok
[13:33] <flurry> what u want to know ?
[13:34] <thank> I have a Lenovo M91P and I am running 12.10 x64. The systems runs great but when I leave it on over night it is a ticking time bomb. When I come back to work in the morning, it may be locked up and it takes out out computers network
[13:35] <thank> So everything plugged into the same switch stops responding on the network.
[13:35] <Erik_D> thank: advice of shuting down at the end of the day aside, what do you mean by locks up?
[13:35] <fluitfries> is there a linux app that will monitor blog feeds and auto-download any mp3 or audio files attached?
[13:36] <masak> is there any way I can make my Ubuntu stop nagging me about upgrading to 11.10?
[13:36] <masak> even if I click "No, thanks", at regular intervals the dialog box pops up again.
[13:36] <Erik_D> masak: turn off update checking?
[13:36]  * masak tries that
[13:37] <Erik_D> masak: I forgot where the option is though, and I'm not sure if it will actually work
[13:37] <thank> hold please taking a phone call
[13:38] <Bier_> jrib can you help me mount an iso
[13:38] <Bier_> i installes furius iso mount and mounted it, but it doesnt show
[13:38] <jrib> !iso | Bier_
[13:38] <masak> Erik_D: found it. thank you.
[13:39] <Shima> Hello, I have edited /etc/sudoers.d/README with gedit. I have miss-typed so my sudo does not work anymore. On google I have found that I can boot to recovery mode and fix it from there. But there is only possibility to run root-shel, but I dont have root enabled -> I am not able to run it. Does anybody know how to fix it? Ubuntu 12.04LTS. Thanks in advance
[13:39] <Erik_D> Shima: edit it back through a live CD?
[13:40] <Kartagis> README?
[13:40] <Bier_> jrib what is mountpoint?
[13:40] <Kartagis> README shouldn't render your sudo useless
[13:40] <Shima> my DVD-ROM is not quite functional, so I cant burn one :/
[13:40] <jrib> Bier_: just any directory you want (and have write permission to).  You can create a new directory if you wish and use that
[13:41] <Bier_> so I type in something like E:\
[13:41] <Bier_> ?
[13:41] <Shima> There must be at least one file in that directory -> now this one is mulfunctional
[13:41] <jrib> Kartagis: it might
[13:41] <Erik_D> Shima: Kartagis raises a very good point... What else have you edited?
[13:41] <Erik_D> ^wut
[13:41] <Kartagis> yeah, wut?
[13:42] <jrib>  /etc/sudoers.d/README should get sourced afaict.  It's just all commented by default though
[13:42] <eliseu> e ai gente
[13:42] <skipp3r> hi all, i am trying to install super-boot-manager on 12.04 (64bit), in the terminal: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ingalex/super-boot-manager and then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ﻿super-boot-manager, but it says: E: Unable to locate package ﻿super-boot-manager, any idea?
[13:42] <Shima> it is wriiten in that file
[13:42] <harrypotter2> which is best mac theme for ubuntu 12.04
[13:42] <jrib> Shima: just boot recovery mode and undo your changes
[13:42] <Kartagis> jrib: isn't the file to be edited /etc/sudoers?
[13:42] <Shima> what should I choose in recoverz?
[13:43] <Erik_D> Bier_: this is linux, not windows. Drives don't get named like that. you could mount it to something like /home/yourUserName/Desktop
[13:43] <jrib> Kartagis: yes but /etc/sudoers has this in it: #includedir /etc/sudoers.d, which will in turn source files in /etc/sudoers.d/ (and README explains more details)
[13:43] <jrib> Shima: root shell
[13:43] <Shima> I have root not enabled
[13:43] <Kartagis> jrib: it is commented out, no?
[13:43] <jrib> Shima: that's fine.  That means you'll just get a root shell.
[13:43] <Shima> * I dont have root enabled
[13:44] <jrib> Kartagis: I think that's the proper syntax.  Not sure.
[13:44] <Shima> It needs password, I have tried mine, none, and some others and nothing worked
[13:44] <jrib> Shima: it would only ask for a password if you set one.
[13:45] <Kartagis> jrib: if it were, all lines would have been processed
[13:45] <jrib> Kartagis: yes, I just verified in « man sudoers »
[13:45] <Shima> for me, but root is diabled by default and have no password
[13:45] <jrib> Kartagis: presumably he created some sort of syntax issue in the lines being included from README
[13:45] <ThinkT510> Shima: thats the way its meant to be on ubuntu
[13:45] <jrib> Shima: recove mode will only ask for a password if you set one for root
[13:46] <Shima> I gues I did not set one
[13:46] <jrib> Shima: (this includes setting one and not properly undoing it)
[13:46] <ThinkT510> !noroot | Shima
[13:46] <jrib> Shima: if you can't get to recovery mode then you either need to use the init=/bin/bash trick or a live cd.  Others can help you with that as I need to go.
[13:47] <Shima> thank for advices guys, I will try them
[13:48] <thank> okay I am back
[13:48] <dr_willis> 'single' user mode is similer to the init=/bin/bash method also
[13:48] <thank> Let me give a little more background
[13:49] <dsnyders> !wfm
[13:49] <tarelerulz> Still have people looking blue on youtube , I turned off hardware  decoding in firefox .  What do I do now
[13:49] <thank> I am an network and systems manger and this Ubuntu computer is used to run multiple virtualbox's
[13:50] <thank> I have always have great luck running Ubuntu desktops and servers
[13:50] <ThinkT510> !enter | thank
[13:50] <dr_willis> tarelerulz:  i recall the adkubuntu.com site had several 'fixs' for it. all i had to do was disable 'hardware accelleration'
[13:50] <dsnyders> tarelerulz, Is it just youtube?
[13:50] <thank> okay sorry
[13:50] <brantje> When i install 10.04 from cd everything is fine, when i upgrade to 12.04.1 i get weird issue's: Screen is randomly put in standby, UI freezes and crashes... This also happens when i install 12.04 from usb
[13:51] <dr_willis> tarelerulz:  there are flash replacer plugins for firefox that play flash videos in vlc, or mplayer, or totem also
[13:51] <tarelerulz> Just youtube , is all I have seen it on. Everthing else that use flash seems to work right
[13:51] <file_> hello i have a problem with distcc. Is there a way to change the gcc version it uses, cause distcc -v tells me it uses gcc-4.6 but i needd 4.5
[13:52] <domie> does anyone have samsung galaxy s and successfully paired it with ubuntu?
[13:52] <jiohdi> tarelerulz, incase no one mentioned yet... the latest flash is only available for linux on google-chrome
[13:52] <thank> My system locks up during the night. when I come in in the morning, video, keyboard, and mouse are unresponsive. all computers on the same switch are off the network.
[13:52] <domie> i can only send files from ubuntu but i can't send files from the phone to the pc
[13:53] <dr_willis> domie:  why use bluetooth? wifi will be much much faster
[13:53] <domie> because android can't see my adhoc connection :(
[13:53] <tarelerulz> How do you even tell what version of flash you have?
[13:53] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:54] <dr_willis> domie:  ive also seen alternative bluetoth clients for android ive had to use for some problem machines/phones to transfer files
[13:55] <dr_willis> domie:  was using one called 'bluetooth file transfer' last week. worked well for an old phone i was having issues with. astro file manager also has a bt module
[13:55] <thank> anyone having problems with Package plymouth 0.8.4-0ubuntu3?
[13:55] <shyrain> hoe to study ubuntu?
[13:55] <shyrain> how
[13:56] <domie> dr_willis, ty I'll search
[13:56] <geekbri> shyrain: install it and use it
[13:56] <dr_willis> domie:  as for pareing. ive seen where i have to  'innitate' the pairing from the phone and not the pc in the past. other way dident work
[13:56] <dr_willis> !manual | shyrain
[13:56] <shyrain> i  hava  installed
[13:57] <devswap> just installing inkscape and being offered add-ons of Diagram editor (dia) and Dia (dia-gnome) surely thats going to install two copies of the same thing?
[13:58] <basketballstar> in ubuntu 12.10 how do i get into gnome
[13:59] <cindirella> start sound don't work please help me
[13:59] <dr_willis> install the gnome-shell package i think basketballstar
[13:59] <dr_willis> !gnome-shell
[13:59] <dr_willis> !gnome
[14:00] <dr_willis> if you mean gnome shell  ;)
[14:00] <basketballstar> what is better nome or ubuntu default
[14:00] <dr_willis> webupd8 or omgubuntu had an artical on getting the full gnome-shell experience
[14:00] <dr_willis> basketballstar:  try them both. decide for yourself.
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> basketballstar  guess you mean gnome-shell -- depends on what you like most
[14:00] <dr_willis> unity is using gnome.
[14:01] <Bier_> is it impossible to mount a game iso?
[14:01] <basketballstar> what is the other linux os
[14:01] <cindirella> wireless as well
[14:01] <basketballstar> popular
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> basketballstar  distrowatch gives somewhat an idea of popular distros
[14:02] <Bier_> im trying to mount fallout 3
[14:03] <Bier_> i got it mounted, but it comes up blank
[14:03] <Bier_> hm nevermind other games seem to work
[14:04] <basketballstar> cindirella,  enter lsusb in terminal paste the results in http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[14:04] <basketballstar> dr_willis,  how do i get linux mint in ubuntu
[14:04] <bkc_> basketballstar: you don't... mint != ubuntu :)
[14:04] <thank> can anyone help with a 12.10 system locking up?
[14:05] <bkc_> !mint | basketballstar
[14:05] <cindirella> start sound doesn't wok yet
[14:06] <cindirella> start sound doesn't work
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> basketballstar  choose either mint or ubuntu, they are different
[14:06] <dr_willis> basketballstar:  there are repositories for some of the mint tools you can install in ubuntu. but i dont see the point in it
[14:07] <dr_willis> basketballstar:  i suggest spending  a month or  with normal ubuntu and unity befor messing with other things
[14:07] <wide_awake> Does anyone know how to disable "grouping" of app windows in the alt-tab window switcher?
[14:08] <basketballstar> i have had normal ubuntu for a long time
[14:08] <dr_willis> wide_awake:  it msy be a setting in the compix tool settings.   but i dont know where
[14:08] <dr_willis> !ccsm
[14:08] <wide_awake> dr_willis, I poked around in there some, but didn't find anything
[14:08] <dr_willis> 'ccsm' has all sorts of settings you can tweak. use with care. i would check on askubuntu.com also
[14:08] <fridrik> test
[14:09] <wide_awake> dr_willis, will do, thanks
[14:09] <dr_willis> they may point to the right place
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> wide_awake  try this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/11/unsettings-a-comprehensive-tweaking-tool-for-unity
[14:09] <dr_willis> ive not explored usettings much ;)
[14:10] <dr_willis> it would be nice to have a modular/expandable 'tweak/setting' system  so we dident need 3+ different tweak tools
[14:10] <wide_awake> MonkeyDust, looking, thx
[14:10] <dr_willis> and make it searachablle via dash/hud
[14:10] <wide_awake> dr_willis, +1
[14:10] <wide_awake> :)
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> right mouseclick in gnome3 panels would be nice
[14:11] <dr_willis> too confuseing. ;)
[14:11] <wide_awake> dr_willis, do you know what "<primary>" means in the keyboard shortcuts in CCSM?
[14:12] <dr_willis> isent thet the normal mouse left button?
[14:13] <dr_willis>  #compiz may know better
[14:16] <fridrik> það er svo undarlegt með unga menn
[14:16] <fridrik> í ungum stúlkum þeir skotnir eru enn
[14:17] <BluesKaj> !is | fridrik
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> what language is that?
[14:18] <duelle> MonkeyDust: Sounds like icelandic - but not sure ;)
[14:19] <BluesKaj> it is icelandic ..looks like danish/swedish...sort of :)
[14:20] <duelle> google translate says, that his text does not have much to do with ubuntu ;)
[14:22] <wide_awake> bah, there's a setting in compiz to make it worse (and *never* expand the collapsed app windows)
[14:22] <wide_awake> nothing I can see to make it better though :(
[14:31] <netzsooc> hello, is there a way I can connect my android phone to ubuntu (via wire) so I can download or upload files
[14:31] <netzsooc> ?
[14:31] <escott> netzsooc, you need to install an mtp program (assuming you have android 4)
[14:34] <dr_willis> older android have a usb mode. works same as a flash drive would
[14:34] <dr_willis> or use wifi. that would be faster
[14:36] <netzsooc> sorry, I made a mistake and got disconnected, so what where you saying about mtp?
[14:36] <dr_willis> older android have a usb mode. works same as a flash drive would
[14:36] <dr_willis> or use wifi. that would be faster
[14:36] <dr_willis> depends on the phone
[14:38] <netzsooc> so to install this mtp is just like sudo apt-get install mtp?
[14:39] <dr_willis> whats your specific phone?
[14:39] <netzsooc> it is an lg l5
[14:39] <dr_willis> only newer phones need the mtp stuff
[14:39] <netzsooc> with ICS
[14:39] <dr_willis> omgubuntu and webupd8 blog sites had some guides on it
[14:39] <netzsooc> googled for them but didn't find, I will regoogle, thanx
[14:40] <dr_willis> ive only dont it wired once. saw how wifi was faster. ;)
[14:41] <dr_willis> http://shkspr.mobi/blog/2012/01/connecting-samsung-ics-to-ubuntu-using-mtp/
[14:41] <netzsooc> how to sync via wifi?
[14:42] <salvattore> hola
[14:42] <dr_willis> i jusy copy files/back/forth same as i would a pc
[14:43] <j105rob> anyone have this error before? I am trying to start virt-manager and get ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/libxml2mod.so: symbol xmlFirstElementChild, version LIBXML2_2.7.3 not defined in file libxml2.so.2 with link time reference
[14:43] <j105rob> I do have vmware worstation installed
[14:43] <netzsooc> but then, I would need to root my phone, don't I?
[14:43] <dr_willis> netzsooc:  root to copy files? err... no...
[14:44] <dr_willis> i copy my pictures/muzak/videos back and forth.
[14:44] <dr_willis> you can do it a dozen different ways over eifi
[14:44] <dr_willis> wifi
[14:45] <netzsooc> ok I will google about that, haven't thought about that... thanks a lot
[14:46] <dr_willis> samba server and astro file manager. is one way.   ssh and a scp client on android is another way
[14:46] <netzsooc> so I could make my ubuntu box a ssh server
[14:46] <dr_willis> ftp can work. ;) then theres various web-file-server tools on android
[14:46] <netzsooc> and then use android as client?
[14:46] <DBoyz> and i'm here to ask for the same question again: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2084342
[14:46] <dr_willis> ssh server = trivial to setup
[14:47] <dr_willis> several ssh clients for android ;)
[14:47] <dr_willis> many file managers got the features also
[14:47] <netzsooc> yes, yes... I think I know how to do that
[14:47] <netzsooc> thanks a lot
[14:47] <netzsooc> again
[14:54] <fyksen> Hey! I got a question about webapps in 12.10. Is it possible to remove the unity icon but still have the "messages menu"  activated for facebook?
[14:54] <fluitfries> hi all, i am having this issue with chromium and html5 video.  any ideas?  (not my thread) http://askubuntu.com/questions/211543/youtube-playback-in-chromium-ruined-by-snow
[14:56] <SierraAR> Whats the command in terminal to run a .run file?
[14:57] <fyksen> SierraAR, Make it executable and ./thefile
[14:57] <fyksen> SierraAR, if that made any sence to you?
[14:57] <SierraAR> fyksen, so chmod -x file.run, ./file.run?
[14:57] <fyksen> SierraAR, in 2 commands yes
[14:58] <fyksen> first chmod -X file
[14:58] <fyksen> then ./file
[15:00] <SierraAR> So this is what comes up when trying to run the file using the instructions fyksen gave me:
[15:00] <SierraAR> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1360396/
[15:00] <dr_willis> err +x
[15:01] <dr_willis> !permissions
[15:01] <SierraAR> Ah that makes sense, +x instead of -
[15:01] <SierraAR> Thanks dr-willis
[15:01] <SierraAR> dr_willis*
[15:01] <dr_willis> you messing with the nvidia .run drivers?
[15:04] <hail> hello, i'm new at this.....how do i use this?
[15:04] <bazhang> hail, this is ubuntu support
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> hail  use what?
[15:05] <neil> hi is it necessary to increase memory swap in netbooks running ubuntu
[15:05] <bazhang> hail, if you have a support question, ask and if someone knows they will answer
[15:05] <hail> i just can ask things here for some help?
[15:05] <bazhang> hail, related to ubuntu tech support, yes
[15:06] <neil> hi is it necessary to increase memory swap in netbooks running ubuntu?
[15:06] <bazhang> neil, whats the current swap, and how much ram
[15:07] <neil> 1gb ram current swap is set to 10
[15:07] <brantje> how can i disable the iptables firewall?
[15:07] <bazhang> neil, thats already way too much
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> neil  10GB swap?
[15:07] <hail> Nice. have only 1 at this time. How do i add a folder in nautilus, not under bookmarks but under computer?
[15:07] <SierraAR> dr_willis, installing teamspeak 3
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> hail  right click, new folder
[15:08] <SierraAR> dr_willis, and trying to learn how to use Terminal by doing as much as I can with it
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> hail  or what do you mean?
[15:08] <neil> so what is suggested for one gb ram
[15:08] <disputin> buy more?!?
[15:08] <bazhang> neil, one gb or two at most
[15:08] <hail> when you open a folder...in the sidebar....
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> hail  yes, then right click in the right panel
[15:09] <neil> so what is the vAlue?
[15:09] <bazhang> neil, one, or two at the most
[15:10] <neil> so when i go "cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness" it should appear as 1?
[15:10] <bazhang> neil, vm?
[15:10] <hail> monkeydust, does not work ,only can open or delete, rename folders
[15:11] <neil> cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness when i type this at the terminal result is 10.
[15:11] <bazhang> neil, thisis a vm?
[15:11]  * BlindTravel loves irssi
[15:12] <neil> i dont even know what a vm is i just followed some instruction on how to speed up my netbook on some forum
[15:12] <ThinkT510> bazhang: in this context i think it means virtual memory
[15:12] <bazhang> neil, a virtual machine, such as vmware/vbox
[15:12] <bazhang> ThinkT510, ah ok
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> hail  start from the beginning, what were you doing or trying before you came here
[15:12] <neil> oh K
[15:12] <neil> so what should appear if i go cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[15:13] <bazhang> neil, that wont speed things up much
[15:13] <SierraAR> Any idea why ubuntu doesn't seem to detect the two extra buttons my mouse has?
[15:13] <neil> i see well i'll just change it back to default which is 60 then
[15:14] <neil> so what is the best way to speed up my netbook with 1gb RAM
[15:14] <bazhang> use something like lxde/openbox   lubuntu neil
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> neil  i use preload and prelink
[15:14] <hail> Monkeydust. maybe i must be more clear. i can add a bookmark and then it gets placed under  bookmarks. but i want to add folders under computer, like the video, home, documents folders
[15:15] <neil> ok
[15:15] <neil> but i like unity so much hehehe
[15:15] <bazhang> lubuntu-desktop package will give you that neil
[15:15] <LucidGuy> NX performance:  My old laptop running NX has a much faster refresh/response then a Linux kvm-vm system also running NX?  Anyone have idea why the laptop responds so much faster?  The host running the vm is doing little to nothing/idle.
[15:15] <bazhang> then choose from the login window neil
[15:16] <neil> ok so i will install lubuntu environment and it will give me the same interface, am i right?
[15:16] <bazhang> neil, a much lighter one
[15:17] <mac_> commandor
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> hail  for anything outside /home, you need sudo -- try sudo mkdir blah in a terminal
[15:17] <mac_> hi All !
[15:17] <mac_> :D
[15:17] <neil> but the interface or the desktop is gonna be different right
[15:18] <bazhang> neil, that is correct
[15:18] <mbeierl> neil, just curious - why were you playing with the swappiness setting?
[15:18] <[jasper]> hej guys, how can I let the command iwconfig wlan0 power off always run on startup?
[15:19] <[jasper]> my networking device only works after I issued this command..
[15:19] <neil> mbeierl, i just thought that it might speed up my netbook
[15:20] <neil> bazhang but i like ubuntu's interface with the dash and all those, looks cool on my netbook :)
[15:21] <mbeierl> neil, again, curious - are you aware of what that setting does?  Just to help with your performance, I want to make sure you're not chasing the wrong thing
[15:22] <[jasper]> anyone ?
[15:22] <guang_> how to "man mysql_real_connect",i have installed libmysql++-doc
[15:22] <neil> well a forum says it should speed up the netbooks performance, what does it do really?
[15:22] <mbeierl> [jasper], does that need to be run at any particular time?  You could add it to /etc/rc.local
[15:23] <martian> I have a remote system mounted with cifs and the host is now down. I can't seem to umount it. When I try, it says the device is busy. If I try to use fuser to find out what process is using it, it stalls forever. What can I do to force a umount?
[15:23] <mbeierl> neil, it is a setting that controls whether the OS should push programs that are not actively being used out into swap in order to cache disk I/O instead.  Not something that is typically tweaked for a desktop environment
[15:24] <neil> ok
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> martian  i use fuser [mountpoint]
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> martian  i use fuser -m [mountpoint]
[15:24] <[jasper]> mbeierl I guess after the wifi device is initialised
[15:24] <[jasper]> by the servers
[15:24] <martian> MonkeyDust: yeah, that's also stalling :-/
[15:24] <neil> so i guess i will just leave it at 60which is at default then use lubuntu instead?
[15:24] <alx_torres> alo??
[15:24] <alx_torres> alguiena anda ahi??
[15:24] <mbeierl> neil, with 1g RAM, you need to figure out if RAM is really the bottleneck.  One way is to see if swap is being used a lot
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> !es
[15:25] <neil> how do you do that
[15:25] <mbeierl> neil, "top" from a terminal can give a nice overview.  When it's running, press the "m" key and it will sort by which programs are using the most memory
[15:26] <neil> let me try that
[15:26] <mbeierl> neil, and the headers at the top of the "top" output will also show how much RAM is in use and how much swap is in use
[15:27] <DaemonicApathy> I find htop to be quite useful as well, and a bit more detailed than top.
[15:27] <mbeierl> DaemonicApathy, true.
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> martian  try umount -vl     (read that in my book here)
[15:28] <neil> this is what appeared: Mem:   1014800k total,   909668k used,   105132k free,   126648k buffers
[15:28] <neil> Swap:  1543676k total,     3344k used,  1540332k free,   338796k cached
[15:28] <martian> MonkeyDust: Wahoo! Thanks!
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> martian  lesson learned: read books!!!
[15:28] <martian> MonkeyDust: mmmhmm!
[15:30] <rocketr> anyone know if theres a 'send to kindle' alternative for ubuntu? this is one small piece of software I utterly love on my PC. right click a mobi, and send it to my kindle wirelessly. Its wonderful.
[15:30] <neil> with what i had on top is that a normal?
[15:30] <mbeierl> neil, from that I would not conclude that memory is an issue at this time.
[15:31] <neil> so how do i fix it
[15:31] <phaedral> my users want to click a button and have image added in line; trying to explain why uploading first is better/required
[15:31] <phaedral> :(
[15:31] <mbeierl> neil, I don't know what "it" refers to.  Was it faster before and now suddenly it is slow?
[15:32] <mbeierl> [jasper], you could try it in /etc/rc.local and see.  I don't know the driver or its place in the startup. Alternatively, you could make it a user script that is run when the user logs in
[15:32] <neil> yeah... "it" meaning the results when i go "top"
[15:32] <DanielHikarus> Hi
[15:33] <mbeierl> neil, the results of top look normal.  good, in fact.
[15:33] <neil> ok
[15:33] <neil> i thought there is something wrong because it was faster before.
[15:34] <mbeierl> neil, faster before... when?  What changed since then and what feels slower?
[15:35] <neil> everytime i launch anything like nautilus and firefox including google chrome
[15:35] <holstein> neil: i was reading that htop or top was slower than before.. your system is slower than before? have you recently upgraded?
[15:36] <mbeierl> neil, and this started happening spontaneously?  check /var/log/syslog to see if it's reporting errors from the disk?
[15:36] <neil> and error messages appear like internal errors thingy
[15:36] <mbeierl> ooooo....
[15:36] <Guest72700> Hey, im about to format an usb stick using gparted.. i need to start it as an admin or smth, can i write someting in the terminal like: "admin" gparted , sudo didn't work
[15:36] <holstein> Guest72700: gksudo gparted
[15:36] <mbeierl> neil, what error messages.  This might be the real cause
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> Guest72700  gksudo
[15:36] <DaemonicApathy> rocketr: there is a script to "Send to Kindle", if you're interested.
[15:37] <neil> it says something like an internal error occured
[15:37] <holstein> neil: use pastebin to share *exactly*
[15:37] <neil>  /var/log/syslog does not do anything it says permission denied
[15:37] <mbeierl> neil, my apologies: "it"?  Where is that message coming from
[15:38] <mbeierl> neil, /var/log/syslog is not a command - it is a file which contains system messages.  try tail -100 /var/log/messages
[15:38] <mbeierl> neil, actually: tail -100 /var/log/syslog | pastebinit
[15:39] <neil> so i need to put that on the terminal?
[15:39] <mbeierl> neil, and ignore my reference to "/var/log/messages" - that's an older version of the file name
[15:39] <neil> ok
[15:39] <mbeierl> neil, yes, put "tail -100 /var/log/syslog | pastebinit" into a terminal and post the URL here so we can see it
[15:39] <dshiner> i miss my /var/log/messages *sniffle*
[15:40] <TheRedOctober> Greetings all. kpropd (kerberos v5 slave KDC update server) doesn't appear to be registered as a service in upstart, you have to daemonize it on startup with a command. What would be the best method to register and run it as a service? (ie. so it can be handled as a puppet service resource)
[15:40] <mbeierl> dshiner, symlink for those days when muscle memory is too strong? :)
[15:40] <neil> ok one moment
[15:41] <neil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1360474/
[15:42] <Shizuo16> how can i modefie the start up Menu to start ubuntu first
[15:42] <holstein> Shizuo16: grub? i would refer to
[15:42] <holstein> !grub
[15:43] <Guest72700> hmmmmm, if i got an iso file, and wanna make that file to an bootable usb stick.. how to i do this, i don't get anything about ubuntu thats why i need to change it ha. ha.
[15:43] <holstein> Guest72700: i use unetbootin
[15:44] <bazhang> Guest72700, dd unetbootin, amongst others
[15:44] <DaemonicApathy> Guest72700, depending on the iso in question, you can use netbootin, Ubuntu's startup disk creator, or just braseiro/acetoneiso...
[15:44] <mbeierl> neil, ok, that doesn't show anything.  Where is this error message you see?
[15:44] <Guest72700> trying unetbooting
[15:44] <neil> it comes out randomly.
[15:44] <Shizuo16> holstein: yep
[15:46] <Shizuo16> holstein: i'm using dual boot win7 ubuntu and recently add bt gnome3 and  now when i start up my pc i need to move the arrow to get in ubuntu
[15:47] <mbeierl> neil, comes out of what?
[15:47] <neil> it appears at random
[15:48] <neil> anytime when im using my netbook
[15:48] <Shizuo16> how can i modefie the start up Menu to start ubuntu first
[15:48] <holstein> Shizuo16: i just move the arrow.. i always have a few different kernels and/or OS's... you can learn how to change the order at that link.. or just change the "DEFAULT=" with 0 being the first entry
[15:49] <Shizuo16> holstein: where is the link
[15:49] <holstein> !grub | Shizuo16
[15:49] <mbeierl> neil, sorry.  without knowing how this message is presented to you, I can't help diagnose it further.
[15:49] <dr_willis> it depends on what os is manageing the boot menu also
[15:49] <dr_willis> odd thet ubuntu dident out ubuntu first
[15:50] <holstein> Shizuo16: i hesitate to drop the command here, as you can make your system not boot by editing this without a little research
[15:50] <neil> well i guess i just wait for it to appear.
[15:51] <dr_willis> Shizuo16:  its possible you could just  reinstall grub from ubuntu, and ikt will put ubuntu first. if bt is the last os installed it may be the one controlling grub
[15:51] <neil> it appears as a dialog box if that would help
[15:51] <Shizuo16> holstein: ahha you mean i have to check this links then you're gona tell me how to
[15:51] <holstein> dr_willis: i think Shizuo16 wants windows as the first... Shizuo16 , i would set windows as the default.. and leave the order
[15:52] <Shizuo16> dr_willis: ahha i didn't think of it ;)
[15:52] <SierraAR> Anybody know how I would find ubuntu software center in top/htop? It seems to be stuck and limbo and cant decide if it's running or dead
[15:52] <dr_willis> Shizuo16:  its worth learning how grub works befor trying things that may break it
[15:52] <holstein> Shizuo16: what im saying is, the links tell you how... you can edit the "DEFAULT=" and not "break" anything too bad
[15:52] <SierraAR> stuck in limbo*
[15:52] <mbeierl> neil, it does :)  what version of ubuntu are you using again?
[15:52] <Shizuo16> holstein: i wanna make ubuntu the default
[15:52] <neil> 12.04
[15:52] <holstein> Shizuo16: you can make whatever you choose as the default
[15:52] <dr_willis> Shizuo16:  boot to ubuntu, rerun 'sudo update-grub'
[15:52] <mbeierl> neil, and that's unity that you have, correct?
[15:52] <dr_willis> Shizuo16:  then ubuntu is the os controlling the grub menu
[15:52] <neil> yep
[15:53] <dr_willis> Shizuo16:  and ubuntu puts itself first in the list
[15:53] <Shizuo16> dr_willis: all right gona try it
[15:53] <mbeierl> neil, I'm using ubuntu studio, which is XFCE based, so I can't confirm this, but that might be what happens when any program core dumps.
[15:54] <mbeierl> Can anyone confirm the behaviour of unity notification when a crash is detected?
[15:54] <neil> what do you mean by that>?
[15:54] <Shizuo16> holstein: i'm checkin the links ;)
[15:54] <dr_willis> grub is worth learning if you are doing complex setups
[15:55] <mbeierl> neil, well, there are many different programs that run in the background - including screensavers.  Let's say one screensaver crashed at some point - for whatever reason.  This then leaves a "core dump" behind.  This is a dump of the memory of the program at the time it crashed - useful for debugging the cause of the crash
[15:55] <Phryq> Hey, are there any other room where you can gert help with arch beside #arch?
[15:56] <bazhang> #archlinux
[15:56] <Phryq> Thanks
[15:56] <mbeierl> neil, then, at periodic intervals, there is a notification utility which looks for these remnants and then notifies you "a program has crashed - can we sent the error report to the ubuntu devs?"
[15:56] <bazhang> mbeierl, apport
[15:56] <Shizuo16> holstein: ahha i knew how to restore grub when lost you mean it's the same too make it on the top ?!
[15:56] <mbeierl> neil, and as I don't use unity - I'm hoping someone else can confirm if what you are seeing sounds like one of those reports\
[15:57] <mbeierl> bazhang, thanks - apport!
[15:57] <Phryq> Hmmm, it tells me I need to be identified with services
[15:57] <Phryq> Does that mean I need an account or something?
[15:57] <bazhang> !register | Phryq
[15:57] <Shizuo16> dr_willis: i dont need to reinstall grub from live cd just by updating ?!
[15:57] <holstein> Shizuo16: i wouldnt change the order, though you can.. i would just change the default.. i find less stuff is breakable
[15:57] <mbeierl> neil, which means the error message is NOT the cause of the slowdown and we can rule that out
[15:57] <bazhang> Phryq, #freenode for help with that
[15:57] <Phryq> Thank
[15:57] <neil> OK
[15:57] <neil> thanks man
[15:58] <neil> so that's normal when something crashes on ubuntu?
[15:58] <neil> meaning to say it is not that stable or my netbook is not stable?
[15:59] <bazhang> neil, apport should handle that, yes
[15:59] <neil> apport? what's that?
[15:59] <bazhang> neil, meaning that software has bugs, and they need to be reported to improve the software
[15:59] <bazhang> neil, the bug/crash reporter
[15:59] <mbeierl> neil, provided the error message you are seeing is in fact from apport itself finding a crash report
[15:59] <Shizuo16> holstein: how can i change the "default" in here they show you how to  reinstall grub 2
[15:59] <holstein> Shizuo16: sudo nano /etc/default/grub ...though you may want to back this up before editing
[16:00] <neil> so where do i get apport?
[16:00] <holstein> in there you will see GRUB_DEFAULT=0
[16:00] <Touhou11> It's installed by default
[16:00] <mbeierl> neil, apport is installed by default as part of the OS
[16:00] <mbeierl> !apport
[16:00] <bazhang> neil, it will pop up if there is a crash, and ask if you wish to file a bug
[16:00] <neil> how do i run that?
[16:00] <neil> ah yeah
[16:00] <bazhang> neil, wait for it
[16:00] <neil> that did happen
[16:00] <Shizuo16> holstein: all right gona backup this just in case
[16:00] <holstein> Shizuo16: and in here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup#Configuring_GRUB_2 you see waht im suggesting
[16:01] <holstein> Shizuo16: 0 being the first in the list.. you can set it to whatever OS you want to boot by default
[16:01] <mbeierl> neil, I should clarify: it runs in the background all the time.  it periodically picks up reports and asks if they can be sent off.  Or it is directly called when a program crashes
[16:01] <neil> so again just to makes things clear, it is a normal behaviour for ubuntu to have bugs?
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> mbeierl  yeah, happens here too, in ubuntu classic
[16:01] <TheLordOfTime> neil, every OS has bugs.
[16:01] <mbeierl> neil, there is no software that is perfect.
[16:01] <TheLordOfTime> neil, it happens with *everything*
[16:01] <neil> yep i gotch
[16:02] <bazhang> neil, of course. every OS has them
[16:02] <neil> *gotcha
[16:02] <holstein> Shizuo16: you can also read the other main link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 on how to change the order
[16:02] <neil> just wanna clarify if what im thinking is right...hehehe
[16:02] <holstein> Shizuo16: also, in the documentation is that you need to run "sudo update-grub" after editing that file... that is to make the changes take effect
[16:03] <mbeierl> neil, however, the cause of the crash is something else.  Yes they happen, but if it happens a lot, that is not normal and might indicate a problem
[16:04] <mbeierl> neil, for example, if I am running a not-very-popular video card, it is possible that it does not work the same way as the other ones and can cause some programs to experience problems in certain cases
[16:04] <holstein> Shizuo16: what would i do? i turn off auto grub booting and select manually when i have "complex" booting scenarios
[16:04] <neil> well i normally experience an issue like when a window is loading it sort of like dims itself. like glowing or flashing ?
[16:04] <mbeierl> neil, and as it is not popular, it has not received the same about of testing an development
[16:04] <Shizuo16> holstein: i'm going to edite the default
[16:05] <mbeierl> neil, um.... as a non-unity user I don't know what the experience is supposed to be like.
[16:05] <neil> ok
[16:05] <Jordan_U> dr_willis: holstein: Remember that right now it's Backtrack's /boot/grub/grub.cfg being read at boot, and "update-grub" just re-writes /boot/grub/grub.cfg. If you want to change which distribution is controlling the grub menu you need to use grub-install.
[16:05] <gordonjcp> neil: it'll do that if it's taking a very long time for the app to respond
[16:05] <mbeierl> neil, is the launcher that you click glowing/flashing?
[16:06] <gordonjcp> neil: I get that when I'm starting to bang off the end of swap ;-)
[16:06] <holstein> neil: is this after an upgrade to 12.10? there is no fallback mode of unity.. i appolize if that is in the scroll back somewhere
[16:06] <neil> nope it is the window.
[16:06] <Shizuo16> holstein: XD what should i change in this file ?!!!!!
 im using 12.04
[16:06] <holstein> Shizuo16: the line i posted about "default".. unless you want to change the order as Jordan_U suggests
[16:06] <mbeierl> neil, ah yes... that's right.  If an application becomes unresponsive, it gets "dimmed" to give you a hint that it is not responding
[16:07] <neil> that always happens
[16:08] <holstein> Shizuo16: that is outlined in the link about ediing /boot/grub/grub.cfg... as Jordan_U states, update-grub poplulates that from /etc/default/grub and other things
[16:08] <mbeierl> neil, ok, we're back again to swap and lack of memory.  Which did not appear to be the case from top.  Perhaps the report from top was at a bad time - like the system was not slow when you ran the command....
[16:08] <holstein> Shizuo16: i would change the "DEFAULT=" line to reflect the OS i want to boot as default
[16:09] <neil> ah i see
[16:09] <neil> so i need to wait for it to slowdown
[16:10] <mbeierl> neil, this is what I'm thinking.  Again, I find myself wanting to ask what has changed since it used to feel "faster"?
[16:11] <mbeierl> neil, it should not slow down without a reason
[16:11] <NikP> How can I change the colors from gnome-terminal to
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> NikP  edit > profile preferences
[16:11] <brantje> Decreased mem usage from 1.5Gb to 813MB ^_^
[16:11] <NikP> nik@nik-ubuntu green and ~$
[16:11] <NikP> blue
[16:12] <neil> yeah i know
[16:12] <neil> but it is really hard to figure it out
[16:13] <NikP> How can I change the colors from gnome-terminal, that the "nik@nik-ubuntu" green is and the "~$" blue?
[16:13] <Shizuo16> holstein: steel the same problem
[16:13] <NikP> In the profile preferences I can't change that.
[16:13] <Touhou11> NikP: Just define the colours you want in your .bashrc
[16:14] <Shizuo16> holstein: i change the default line to 0 and sudo update-grub  and the same problem
[16:14] <Touhou11> NikP: Or your global bash config if you'd prefer
[16:14] <dr_willis> NikP:  check out the 'bash prompt howto' theres dozens of tricks you can do
[16:14] <holstein> Shizuo16: well, to be clear... there is no "problem"
[16:15] <holstein> Shizuo16: one thing could be, you are editing the grub in the os that didnt install grub
[16:15] <Touhou11> NikP: This is all presuming you're using bash as your shell, will be slightly different for zsh, csh etc
[16:15] <holstein> Shizuo16: you can share any error messages...
[16:15] <neil> well i think i need to park that out for some time and check if my netbook would continue to be slow
[16:16] <Shizuo16> holstein: you mean i have to edite the grub in Bt
[16:17] <neil> another question i have in mind is the window size it. Like whenever i save a file and a window will pop out it is always bigger that my screen like i cannot see ok from the bottom
[16:17] <holstein> Shizuo16: you dont have to editin grub, but if you want to make changes to the grub that is controlling the system, you should edit that particular grub
[16:17] <holstein> Shizuo16: if it were my machine, i would just test different ones til i found the one that worked.. or restore it with a live CD so i know where it is
[16:18] <Shizuo16> holstein: so you mean reinstalling grub 2 from live  cd will fix the problem
[16:18] <Krambiorix> hi guys, i want the number of files starting with ~     , i try with find ./-name "~$*" .  -> but that shows all files in all underlaying directories.... Can someonen help?
[16:18] <NikP> Touhou11: OK, after editing it, it works.
[16:19] <holstein> Shizuo16: there is no problem.. but reinstalling whll help you know exactly which grub to edit
[16:19] <NikP> Touhou11: But where can I change it for the virtual consoles (e.g. ctrl+alt+F1)
[16:19] <dr_willis> Shizuo16: or boot to ubuntu. update-grub. then  ubuntu should be controlling it
[16:19] <NikP> Touhou11: Oh, now it works too. Thank you!
[16:20] <holstein> Shizuo16: i need to run.. i would just leave well enough alone for a bit, and maybe edit on a simpler setup... create one in virtualbox and "break" it to test.. enjoy!
[16:20] <Shizuo16> dr_willis: already tryed your way and wont work i update grub but wont control anything
[16:21] <dr_willis> Shizuo16: it may be installing grub to a different location or hard drive.
[16:21] <magma> is Skype in the repositories of ubuntu 12.10?
[16:21] <sianhulo> guys, even tough my bios recognizes my usb stick, I cannot boot from it(yeah, changed bott order). Is a sandisk with u3(I don't know if this afects it as it automatically create another partition)or if is the fact that is 1gb(ubuntu.com says that it has to have at least 2gb of free space to make a live usb, but it actually fits without a problem in my usb stick)
[16:21] <Krambiorix> hi guys, i want the number of files starting with ~     , i try with find ./-name "~$*" .  -> but that shows all files in all underlaying directories.... Can someonen help?
[16:22] <sianhulo> tl;dr have a 1gb pendrive, my bios recognizes it but it doesn't boot so i cannot reinstall
[16:22] <dr_willis> Shizuo16: the boot-repair tool may fix it. or try       sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[16:22] <magma> Anyone here use skype with ubuntu?
[16:22] <Shizuo16> dr_willis: going to reinstall grub with live cd then
[16:22] <Touhou11> magma: Yes
[16:23] <mrdavid> does anyone know how to filter mode changes in a channel in weechat?
[16:23] <OerHeks> sianhulo, in software centre there is a u3 tool, to get rid of the uses U3 stuff> sudo apt-get install u3-tool
[16:23] <mrdavid> I'm already filtering joins, parts, and quits
[16:23] <dr_willis> Shizuo16: the boot-repair tool can be ran frpm your ubuntu install
[16:23] <neil> ok im back
[16:23] <sianhulo> derheks, thank you, didn't know such tool existed. brb
[16:23] <neil> and yeah help with the windows size on ubuntu?
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> Krambiorix  try adding -maxdepth 1
[16:25] <Krambiorix> MonkeyDust, i want it recursively
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> Krambiorix  or change 1 to something higher, as it suits you
[16:25] <magma> Touhou11, how did you install it?
[16:26] <Touhou11> magma: You can get it from the Ubuntu software centre, though you may need to enable the "partner repositories" first since it's proprietary software
[16:27] <magma> ok
[16:27] <magma> thanks
[16:27] <neil> help with the windows size on ubuntu?
[16:27] <dr_willis> neil: clarify what you mean
[16:28] <neil> like when i go and save or download, the window is larger than my screeni cannot see the bottom
[16:30] <chaotix> hi...  i have cairo dock, on xubuntu 12.10   ...i installed cairo dock, and everything was goiong fine...  then i started experimenting around, noticing that i could drag items off the dock onto the desktop, and i could always drag them back when i wanted to...  but i dragged the terminalapplet to the desktop, and it is now staying in open mode and wont go back to the dock.  i have tried...
[16:30] <chaotix> ...uninstalling and reinstalling from synaptic, it was still open and on the desktop.. and i have tried disabling the terminal from the cairo dock setting, but when i re enable, it shows up again
[16:30] <chaotix> what should i do?
[16:31] <mbeierl> neil, sorry - I'm going to bow out of that one as I don't use unity.  But I know exactly what you are saying as I've experienced that myself and have no answer.  I use the alt-key and grab the window anywhere with the left mouse button and then move the whole window up to see it
[16:31] <dr_willis> chaotix: uninstallng is windows  mindset thinking
[16:32] <dr_willis> chaotix: close the dock. delete its setting files.. restart it  is one way
[16:32] <neil> ok i guess i have no choice
[16:33] <chaotix> thanks dr_willis
[16:33] <chaotix> dr_willis: can you tell me how to get to the setting files?
[16:34] <dr_willis> they are in your home dir somewhere. in    .config perhaps
[16:34] <neil> @mbeierl how about the updates i cannot select on the update manager
[16:36] <chaotix> dr_willis: ok i am in ~/.config/cairo-dock
[16:36] <chaotix> what should i delete
[16:39] <smcgrath> http://www.wired.com/business/2012/11/brilliant-bastards/?pid=801&viewall=true
[16:40] <andreb> good day all
[16:40] <andreb> quick question... what is the CLI for see what services are running
[16:40] <gchristensen> Hi, is there a good example on how to use local extensions to an apparmor profile? that documentation seems to be lacking.
[16:40] <[]Tsukasa[]> Need to reset a password on a server box, booted to a live cd but the volume is lvm, how do I go about accessing it to reset login info
[16:42] <dr_willis> chaotix: jusr rename the whole directory...
[16:42] <chaotix> gotit...  thanks dr_willis .... i will try to use linux mindset in the future
[16:43] <chaotix> dr_willis: oo...  i deleted the directory.....  i think its working now tho
[16:43] <dr_willis> andreb:  the  service  command
[16:43] <doqi28> hi
[16:44] <dr_willis> chaotix:  the apt tools do not touch user configs in their homes.. worth remembering
[16:44] <chaotix> it recreated the directory, but the settings are now back to default
[16:44] <dtigue1> ok all the sudden today everytime i open a new teminal or a new window in tmux bash is printing a list of my aliases, anyone know how to stop this from happening?
[16:44] <chaotix> thanks
[16:44] <dr_willis> chaotix: logical ;-)
[16:45] <talexb> Dealing with usb-creator-gtk bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/722019 and I'ev found that there is a newer version of the app ..
[16:45] <talexb> I'm on wheezy/sid .. not sure if there is a package for this distro ..
[16:45] <dr_willis> dtigue1: check..      .bashec  or.    .profile or other startup files for an alias command  by itself.
[16:45] <YokoBR> hey guys, i have a hybrid gpu notebook and the only driver that works for me is the open source... why?
[16:46] <dtigue1> dr_willis: ok, i will double check them again, but unless i just over looked it there is nothing like that in my files
[16:47] <Avventure> il a t'il quelqu'un qui parle francais svp merci
[16:47] <talexb> Avventure, Oui, vas y .. je vais essayer.
[16:48] <chaotix> got a cool set up here...  i took an old laptop that didnt have a screen or keyboard or mouse pad, and hooked it up to my flasscreen, and got this logitch keyboard trackapad in one, actually a good quality one...  usually they stick but this logitech k400 is nice...  and invested 25.00 in flirk (flirk.tv), so i could program my remote control to work with the computerr...  it's great...  and...
[16:48] <chaotix> ...with the keyboard options in cairo, the remote works for that...  its pretty nice..  may not even buy a cable box
[16:48] <chaotix> thanks for the help
[16:48] <chaotix> bye
[16:49] <hankhendrix> hello there, I'm a noob and would like some help to locate some source?
[16:50] <jrib> hankhendrix: just ask
[16:50] <hankhendrix> OK!
[16:50] <hankhendrix> I would like to edit the source for the right-click menu on the desktop background in ubuntu 12.10
[16:50] <[]Tsukasa[]> nvm using the grub trick worked
[16:51] <hankhendrix> I've downloaded the source, but can't grep for the menu option string as the source files are tarred
[16:51] <dr_willis> so extract the archives
[16:51] <hankhendrix> every single one of the tars across three ISOs!?
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[16:52] <jrib> hankhendrix: i'm curious what you want to edit exactly
[16:52] <kcm1700> hello, what package should I install in order to use git-imap-send ?
[16:52] <jrib> ^about
[16:55] <dr_willis> hankhendrix:  better to just tell us what you are trying to acomplish
[16:55] <dr_willis> theres  no need to msg me.
[16:56] <hankhendrix> where can I go for dev help?
[16:56] <Guest36662> hey can i write something in the terminal to creata a partition on my main drive?
[16:57] <hankhendrix> I would like to edit the behaviour of "Change Desktop Background"
[16:57] <jrib> hankhendrix: to do what?
[16:58] <hankhendrix> Probably just show an alert with a message
[16:58] <hankhendrix> I'm a web dev trying to get into lower level langs
[16:58] <hankhendrix> and thought this would be a good entry point
[16:59] <jrib> hankhendrix: so what source code did you download?
[16:59] <hankhendrix> all three ISOs
[16:59] <Slart> Guest36662: there's fdisk and parted and probably a few other terminal based partition editors..
[17:00] <jrib> hankhendrix: well nautilus draws the desktop, so I'd start there I suppose.
[17:00] <jrib> !source | hankhendrix
[17:00] <hankhendrix> thanks guys
[17:01] <hankhendrix> my problem is I don't know what package to target
[17:01] <hankhendrix> so I was just going to extract them all and grep for the string "Change Desktop Background"
[17:01] <dr_willis>  every desktop and window manager most likely has such a feature.
[17:02] <bekks> hankhendrix: Which language do you want to learn...?
[17:02] <dr_willis> and with the translations - such a search may be pointless
[17:02] <Slart> hankhendrix: just a heads up.. the source might not contain that exact string as it might be fetched from some kind of language package
[17:02] <dr_willis> nautilus handles the file manager and 'desktop' background menus of the default unity setup
[17:02] <hankhendrix> yeh, but the translation will come up in the grep results
[17:03] <Slart> hankhendrix: my guess is that the source might just contain something like   PrintMessage $change_background_message
[17:03] <hankhendrix> and I can then obtain the translation key from that and further grep
[17:03] <dr_willis> you wouldent know what apps are using the translations
[17:03] <DaemonicApathy> hankhendrix: have you joined #ubuntu-devel yet?
[17:03] <dr_willis> since it would be like.. most all of them ;)
[17:03] <hankhendrix> nope, this is my first experience of irc and ubuntu dev...I'll join now
[17:04] <dr_willis> you may want to start with somthing smaller in scope
[17:04] <hankhendrix> hmm maybe, but I'd like to get my hands dirty
[17:04] <dr_willis> im not even sure how you would modify/compile and test your modified nautilus easially
[17:05] <hankhendrix> hmm
[17:05] <hankhendrix> I wondered if that might be the case
[17:05] <Slart> dr_willis: shouldn't the package source compile as-is? or I'm being naively optimistic about this? =)
[17:05] <dr_willis> do you even know c++ or any languages?
[17:05] <dr_willis> Slart:  it 'should' ;)
[17:06] <bekks> hankhendrix: Which language do you want to learn...?
[17:06] <dr_willis> Slart:  use build deps, get code, alter, build deb, install it, test...
[17:06] <dr_willis> hope it works. ;)
[17:07] <hankhendrix> nice one
[17:07] <Slart> dr_willis: well.. I'm happy just running the default binaries.. at least for now =)
[17:07] <hankhendrix> no I've not got experience of C++
[17:07] <babyswizz> my ubuntu linux is very slow as a guest on a vm and windows 7 host, please what could be the reason
[17:07] <hankhendrix> I'm a JS, PHP dev
[17:07] <dr_willis> hankhendrix:  any programing experience?
[17:07] <hankhendrix> yes...I'm a pro dev
[17:07] <dr_willis> js? gnome-shell uses a lot of js  ;)
[17:08] <bekks> hankhendrix: You just said you're a JS and PHP dev ;)
[17:08] <DaemonicApathy> babyswizz: Running Ubuntu in a VM causes resources to be used by both the host and the guest OS - this can slow things a bit.
[17:08] <hankhendrix> seriously?!
[17:08] <dr_willis> hankhendrix:  its a major 'selling point' i hear
[17:08] <hankhendrix> what JS?
[17:08] <dr_willis> if by js you ment javascript
[17:08] <hankhendrix> yes
[17:08] <DaemonicApathy> babyswizz: You might compare performance by booting into a live session, if you don't want to install on a separate partition just yet.
[17:08] <hankhendrix> isn't that the standard abbreviation?
[17:08] <dr_willis> hankhendrix:  no idea.
[17:09] <babyswizz> DaemonicApathy, my window host works perfectly but not my ubuntu, is there anything i can do?
[17:10] <hankhendrix> right, must get back to work...will be back later
[17:10] <DaemonicApathy> hankhendrix: It is, assuming one is accustomed enough to using it as such. ;-)
[17:10] <DaemonicApathy> babyswizz: what are your hardware details? CPU, memory...
[17:10] <dtigue1> dr_willis: ok i found out what is was, i continuously hit ';s' instead of 'ls' so i created an alias for it, well i wasn't thinking about
[17:11] <dtigue1> dr_willis: about ; starting a new command
[17:11] <hankhendrix> thanks for your help
[17:11] <hankhendrix> laterz
[17:13] <babyswizz> DaemonicApathy, the system memory is 4gb and i allocated 1gb to ubuntu, whereas the processor says i have 4 CPUs but 1 is allocated to ubuntu
[17:13] <Cong> I can't real the font in xterm. How do I make it bigger?
[17:14] <DaemonicApathy> babyswizz: If your current usage permits, I would recommend doubling both of those.
[17:14] <Jordan_U> dr_willis: As I said to you before, "update-grub" just re-writes /boot/grub/grub.cfg, it doesn't install grub and thus does not change which partition's grub.cfg is read at boot.
[17:15] <Slart> Cong: there should be a menu option for "zoom" or ctrl +
[17:15] <DaemonicApathy> babyswizz: If you would prefer to run a lighter system at the same specs, you might try lubuntu.
[17:15] <Cong> slart, nope
[17:16] <Slart> Cong: oh.. sorry.. thought you wrote gnome-terminal.. not xterm
[17:17] <babyswizz> DaemonicApathy, when i try to double the CPU it says i need hardware virtualization support on my host system, i dont know exactly what that means
[17:17] <Slart> Cong: ah.. CTRL + rightclick gives you a menu
[17:17] <bekks> babyswizz: hardware virtualization does not depend on the amount of memory.
[17:18] <bekks> babyswizz: And whats the exact message displayed?
[17:19] <Xen> hi
[17:19] <babyswizz> bekks, am talking of processor CPUs not memory
[17:19] <Xen> I am having an issue with an ubuntu server setup, is anyone here a professional with it?
[17:19] <Cong> slart, permanent solution. that would give me a temporary change. I can't do that because the menu is small because I merged xterm*geomery: 124x40 in to the resources.
[17:19] <bekks> babyswizz: Then whats the exact message you get?
[17:20] <DaemonicApathy> Cong: http://askubuntu.com/questions/161652/how-to-change-the-default-font-size-of-xterm
[17:21] <Xen> I am having an issue with an ubuntu server setup, is anyone here a professional with it and willing to help me with a Samba configuration issue, more specifically a small question
[17:21] <bekks> !ask | Xen
[17:22] <Xen> does my workgroup need to have a domain controller for me to setup a folder on the samba server and require a login name and password for it?
[17:23] <Xen> I would like to give eash user a private folder with a password and username (perhaps an ubuntu login?)
[17:23] <bekks> Xen: Using a workgroup, you dont need a domain (nor a domain controller).
[17:23] <babyswizz> bekks, controls the number of virtual CPUs in the virtual machine. you need hardware virtualization support on your host system to use more than one virtual CPU
[17:23] <hilo> hello, just curious, when I type dmesg in terminal, the log entries are preceded by [#####.######] what do the numbers mean/relate to
[17:23] <bekks> babyswizz: Then you have to enable that feature in the BIOS of your computer.
[17:23] <OerHeks> hilo time
[17:23] <FernandoBasso> Dash is very slow. Even if I just hit Super to open it or close it, it is slow. All other effects work smoothly. Any ideas what is coing on?
[17:23] <hilo> OerHeks, in what unit?
[17:24] <hilo> OerHeks, or rather, with reference to what?
[17:24] <babyswizz> bekks, how do i do that
[17:24] <OerHeks> hilo seconds before the "."
[17:24] <bekks> babyswizz: That totally depends on the BIOS of your computer. And it should be covered in the manual of your computer hardware.
[17:26] <izissise> Hello
[17:27] <DaemonicApathy> Hello.
[17:27] <izissise> How have you been ?
[17:28] <babyswizz> bekks, can you just describe what am l might be looking for when i enter my computer BIOS
[17:28] <budmang> Just updated to 12.10 on the laptop, wifi was working etc.. it asked me to finish/do a few updates.. reboot.. wifi is gone... heh.
[17:28] <DaemonicApathy> babyswizz: What is your computer model?
[17:28] <hilo> OerHeks, thanks
[17:28] <DaemonicApathy> And 'Virtualization' is good to keep an eye out for, babyswizz.
[17:29] <bekks> babyswizz: Basically a setting like "Enable hardware virtualization", "Enable AMD-V", "Enable Intel VT-d" or similar.
[17:29] <babyswizz> DaemonicApathy, hp pavillon, g6
[17:29] <DaemonicApathy> babyswizz: That's kind of a wide series at this point.
[17:30] <[conrad]> Hello everyone. We have an Ubuntu based network in which authentication is done against an OpenLDAP server. What's the best way to make it on login to take the supplied credentials and use them to mount a network drive? Since users may not exist yet on the system, I wasn't sure if maybe this was something to add to /etc/skel, or if someone maybe had some experience and might suggest a different method.
[17:31] <babyswizz> thanks guys am going to check it out now
[17:31] <johnnyonflame> hello there, I'm using xubuntu
[17:31] <johnnyonflame> and I can't find the system>preferences tab on my computer
[17:32] <johnnyonflame> there's system, but no "preference" submenu
[17:32] <holstein> johnnyonflame: you can try #xubuntu ,but i would just ask for what you are wanting to change.. xfce is a bit different
[17:32] <DaemonicApathy> Applications > System and Applications > Settings > Settings Manager cover just about everything, johnnyonflame
[17:32] <johnnyonflame> holstein, thanks for the tip, will keep in mind
[17:33] <holstein> johnnyonflame: if anything, there are more places to change settings
[17:33] <johnnyonflame> holstein, DaemonicApathy I am trying to find pulseaudio settings menu
[17:33] <holstein> johnnyonflame: i would install pavucontrol
[17:34] <johnnyonflame> holstein, that won't cover what I need
[17:34] <bekks> johnnyonflame: Then what do you need...?
[17:34] <holstein> johnnyonflame: sure.. what are you looking for? that is the most extensive pulse settings GUI
[17:34] <DaemonicApathy> johnnyonflame, check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1882525
[17:35] <DaemonicApathy> It still recommends pavucontrol, but also a way to make it a bit simpler to access.
[17:35] <johnnyonflame> "Make discoverable Apple AirTunes sound devices available locally"
[17:35] <johnnyonflame> Pavucontrol comes defaulted to the system's volume control
[17:36] <DaemonicApathy> johnnyonflame: ...try #xubuntu . And good luck. :-)
[17:37] <johnnyonflame> DaemonicApathy, k, ty )
[17:37] <johnnyonflame> :)
[17:37] <holstein> johnnyonflame: what are you trying to do/
[17:37] <johnnyonflame> holstein, I want to stream my audio to airbubble on my phone
[17:38] <osirisx11> would someone please be so kind as to help me with an apt dependency error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1360758/
[17:39] <holstein> johnnyonflame: there are lots of ways to do that, though i wouldn expect pulse to do that
[17:39] <Cong> http://oi45.tinypic.com/ixdvgi.jpg this can't be fixed font on the right could it?
[17:39] <holstein> johnnyonflame: what is "airbubble" expecting? you can always use a friendlier client on the phone.. something more open
[17:40] <designbybeck> I heard there was a new "Ubuntu Distro Builder" Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[17:40] <holstein> johnnyonflame: remember, there is nothing about ubuntu/xubuntu/linux that prevents "airbubble" from supporting it
[17:40] <johnnyonflame> holstein, I'd love to use something else other than it
[17:40] <holstein> designbybeck: online? or like remastersys?
[17:40] <jrib> osirisx11: do you have any idea why?  What have you done regarding repositories?  Any 3rd-party repositories or debs?
[17:40] <genii-around> osirisx11: Did you do sudo apt-get update   first?
[17:40] <designbybeck> holstein: I think it was like remastersys, but much easier to use
[17:41] <holstein> designbybeck: ubuntu customization kit? uck in the repos.. if its still there
[17:41] <osirisx11> genii-around: yes i've done apt-get update
[17:42] <genii-around> osirisx11: What says result of: apt-cache policy mysql-server*      ?
[17:42] <Cong> This is not right. I want to change the font size not change the font and pick  a size.
[17:43] <osirisx11> genii-around: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1360769/
[17:44] <BluesKaj> BBL...
[17:44] <genii-around> osirisx11: Please do the command with the asterisk at the end, so: apt-cache policy mysql-server*   and not just:apt-cache policy mysql-server
[17:45] <osirisx11> oh sorry
[17:45] <osirisx11> genii-around: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1360773/
[17:46] <designbybeck> i'll check! Thanks holstein
[17:46] <osirisx11> seems to come back to mysql-server-5.5: PreDepends: mysql-common (>= 5.5.24-0ubuntu0.12.04.1) but 5.5.28-0ubuntu0.12.04.2 is installed
[17:48] <genii-around> osirisx11: I would suggest for the time being to downgrade the mysql-server-core-5.5    with:  sudo apt-get install +
[17:48] <genii-around> Bleh
[17:49] <genii-around> osirisx11: With: sudo apt-get install mysql-server-core-5.5=5.5.24-0ubuntu0.12.04.1
[17:49] <osirisx11> E: Version '5.5.24-0ubuntu0.12.04.1' for 'mysql-server-core-5.5' was not found
[17:50] <SierraAR> Why are there things listed in the software center, but they say 'There isn’t a software package called “blah” in your current software sources.'
[17:50] <osirisx11> i'm happy to lose mysql entirely if i have to
[17:51] <Slart> Cong: Have you looked at this thread ? http://www.daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=6655  there is a command line option in a later post that might be useful
[17:51] <genii-around> osirisx11: Hm. I think your lists are messed up.
[17:51] <genii-around> osirisx11: One minute
[17:51] <Seveas> SierraAR, can you give us an example?
[17:51] <SierraAR> Seveas, There isn’t a software package called “wesnoth-1.8” in your current software sources.
[17:52] <SierraAR> Very top of the list in the Games category when sorting by top-rated
[17:52] <SierraAR> Battle for Wesnoth (1.8)
[17:52] <SierraAR> Using Ubuntu 12.04 64bit
[17:52] <Seveas> SierraAR, did you enable the 'universe' repository?
[17:52] <SierraAR> Not sure what that is or how I'd enable it
[17:53] <zykotick9> !sources | SierraAR
[17:53] <Seveas> in the software sources app, tick the relevant box
[17:54] <Seveas> Community-maintained free and open source software (universe)
[17:54] <IdleOne> SierraAR: Should be in Software Sources Settings or similar.
[17:54] <SierraAR> Everything except Source Code is checked
[17:54] <zykotick9> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources shows for 7.10...
[17:54] <Seveas> !find wesnoth precise
[17:54] <Seveas> hm, in precise it's already wesnoth-1.10?
[17:55] <Seveas> !info wesnoth-1.10 precise
[17:55] <genii-around> osirisx11: I suggest: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*  /var/lib/apt/lists/*           then redo the: sudo apt-get update         and try again with: sudo apt-get -f install
[17:55] <Seveas> SierraAR, did you upgrade from an older version?
[17:55] <IdleOne> SierraAR: close that and reload/refresh the sources, maybe the button is called reload.
[17:55] <SierraAR> Seveas, it's a fresh install of 12.04 64bit. I had 12.10 32bit previously
[17:56] <Seveas> SierraAR, then you found a bug :) You can install the wesnoth-1.10 package manually if you want to play wesnoth
[17:56] <osirisx11> rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*': No such file or directory
[17:56] <Seveas> osirisx11, add a measure of sudo :)
[17:56] <osirisx11> osiris@osiris-laptop:~$ sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/apt/lists/partial': Is a directory
[17:56] <osirisx11> i did use sudo
[17:57] <Seveas> rm -r
[17:57] <osirisx11> rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*': No such file or directory
[17:58] <osirisx11> i did update again and install -f again and fails identically
[17:58] <osirisx11> i also tried with -r
[17:58] <jmfurlott> Trying to boot ubuntu on a 2010 iMac with an ATi radeon card after installing non-graphically but when it boots and tries to start x the screen goes black.  I can't use ctrl-alt-f1 or anything; it doesn't take any response so I can't get into a shell
[17:59] <holstein> jmfurlott: i would try getting to the desktop live with nomodeset
[17:59] <jmfurlott> holstein, while that got that me further on a livecd trying to do a graphical install it never actually started x correctly
[18:00] <jmfurlott> it would just say Ubuntu with the loading dots in poor resolution and then nothing
[18:01] <Evil_Eric> ok here we go i have a issue that i would like some help with
[18:01] <holstein> jmfurlott: if you cant get to the live desktop, i would expect it to be challenging to get to it from an install... i would try tty
[18:01] <holstein> !tty
[18:01] <holstein> see if you can install an ati proprietary driver manually jmfurlott
[18:01] <holstein> !ati | jmfurlott
[18:02] <jmfurlott> holstein, it won't respond to tty..thats why this is so difficult haha
[18:02] <Evil_Eric> in the messageing menu in ubuntu 12.04 LTS there is avalibale,away,buisy,invisable and offline how do i remove JUST that not the entire menu
[18:02] <holstein> jmfurlott: hm.. can you pull the hard drive? thats a long shot too, but i was thining you could at least setup openssh-server
[18:03] <jmfurlott> holstein, ehh that's not a bad idea but pretty unreasonable I think
[18:03] <DJones> !nomedset ! jmfurlott This may help,
[18:03] <DJones> !nomedset | jmfurlott This may help,
[18:03] <jmfurlott> DJones, I have tried
[18:03] <bazhang> nomodeset
[18:03] <jmfurlott> DJones, lol at the bot
[18:03] <Seveas> Evil_Eric, I'm fairly sure that's not possible
[18:04] <holstein> jmfurlott: well, keep in mind, there is nothing about ubuntu keeping apple or ati from providing out of the box support for you/us
[18:04] <DJones> jmfurlott: no sucess with the nomodeset paramater in grub?
[18:04] <holstein> jmfurlott: elaborate as to the issues you see with nomodeset...
[18:04] <Evil_Eric> its open source isnt it seveas
[18:05] <jmfurlott> DJones, How do I set the parameter on grub
[18:05] <Seveas> Evil_Eric, well yes, you can prod at the source :)
[18:05] <Adriannom> hi. on xubuntu  the spellchecker on libreoffice isn't working at all.  i've tried installing hunspell, wbritish and libreoffice-l10n-en-gb among other things, but nothing is working.  when i try a spellcheck it just says "spellcheck finished".  is this a common problem?
[18:05] <holstein> jmfurlott: i tap shift at boot, and use the F6 options at the bottom of the live CD
[18:05] <jmfurlott> holstein, I know but Apple has to make it difficult
[18:06] <holstein> jmfurlott: nomodeset from a live CD is what i would suggest... and what i assumed you mentioned having tried above
[18:06]  * Evil_Eric gets his cattle prod out and zaps the messaging menu a few times 
[18:06] <trism> Evil_Eric: not sure exactly how you would go about it on 12.04 but in 12.10 the app's .desktop file has to have X-MessagingMenu-UsesChatSection=true, commenting that out removes the status integration
[18:06] <jmfurlott> holstein, yeah I have tried from cd but not after an install so maybe I can get to a bash
[18:06] <holstein> jmfurlott: its an ati graphics card, but apple or ati could supply you with linux support, though they dont have to
[18:06] <Evil_Eric> trism, thanks for that it gives me something to look into
[18:06] <chand> Hi
[18:07] <jmfurlott> holstein, ohh I see what you are saying.  I wouldn't expect them to say much to me
[18:07] <trism> Evil_Eric: note that the api between 12.04 and 12.10 is completely different, so probably won't help you much on 12.04
[18:07] <Evil_Eric> probaly not but at least its something to look into (i dint even know where to start ) trism
[18:08] <holstein> jmfurlott: and they dont need to say anthing to you.. im just making sure you understand exactly why it can be challenging to work with unsupported software.. though the nomodeset option is the way i sneak in and test and install on most systems
[18:09] <Evil_Eric> google is my friend!!!
[18:10] <jmfurlott> holstein, is there a way to set nomodeset from grub or only from a live cd
[18:11] <holstein> !nomodeset
[18:11] <holstein> jmfurlott: you should be able to add it to the current install kernel as a parameter...
[18:12] <jmfurlott> holstein, not sure how to do that? I am on the GRUB command line
[18:12] <Fuzzles> how do i upgrade from ubuntu 12.04 too xubuntu 12.10? i have installed xubuntu adn removed ubuntu now what?
[18:13] <holstein> jmfurlott: thats why, if it were me, i would just grab a live CD.. tap shift.. hit F6 select "nomodeset" and test... then if it works, you can either install again, or read more about how to implement this on your current insatll
[18:13] <holstein> install*
[18:13] <dr_willis> ! upgrade
[18:13] <holstein> jmfurlott: should be that you hit tab and edit the grub kernel line.. or go in with a live cd (from the above test) and add it manually
[18:13] <Evil_Eric> hey trism i think i found the lib to remove
[18:14] <trism> Evil_Eric: did you?
[18:14] <Evil_Eric> i think
[18:15] <Fuzzles> how do i switch from ubuntu 12.04 to xubuntu?
[18:15] <jmfurlott> holstein, okay I am trying to the live cd
[18:16] <bazhang> Fuzzles, install xubuntu-desktop package
[18:16] <dr_willis> Fuzzles: select the desktop to use at the login screen
[18:17] <Fuzzles> bazhang, done that and i got rid of ubuntu desktop now how do i get tYou may have noticed in the release announcement for Beta 1 today from Kate Stewart this line: “With Ubuntu 12.10, Kubuntu, to upgrade to xubuntu 12.10he xubuntu updates becasue i want
[18:17] <Fuzzles> bazhang, done that and i got rid of ubuntu desktop now how do i get the xubuntu updates so i can upgrade to xubuntu 12.10
[18:18] <dr_willis> upgrade the system. install tge desktop yu want. log into it. ununstall others
[18:18] <dr_willis> use the upgrade manager tool to get to the next release
[18:19] <Fuzzles> dr_willis, but it only shows ubuntu 12.10 :S
[18:19] <Fuzzles> dr_willis, i want xubuntu 12.10
[18:19] <hankhendrix> does anyone know how to rebuild and test nautilus source?
[18:19] <dr_willis> it will upgrade what you have installed.....
[18:19] <Fuzzles> ok ill try it
[18:20] <JuNiOx> hello guys, is there a way to play an swf file from command line? tried lynx, w3m and elinks but the .swf file is not triggered
[18:20] <jmfurlott> holstein, it just goes black after the ubuntu loading screen
[18:21] <holstein> jmfurlott: it? the live CD? after trying nomodeset? .. there are other options under f6.. i usually just try them all til something works (if something works)
[18:21] <malaise> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10937431/run-a-swf-file-with-the-terminal
[18:22] <jmfurlott> holstein, okay I will try that its just annoying because if I had a bash this would be easy to change ou t the drivers
[18:23] <dr_willis> !text
[18:23] <Nibinaear> What gui software would you recommend to customize Ubuntu? I found out about myunity but it seems it's not compatible for Ubuntu 12.10.
[18:24] <dr_willis> !info myunity
[18:24] <dr_willis> its gone. :(
[18:25] <dr_willis> webupd8 and omgubuntu sites shuld mention several tweaking tools
[18:25] <ikonia> and should be ignored
[18:26] <bulletrulz> GodFather, jjj
[18:29] <bestdnd> hi. i have just installed a new mouse (SteelSeries kinzu v2 pro edition), and it's too sensitive- it moves too fast on the screen. it the settings, it's already set to the slowest pointer speed, and lowest acceleration. is there a way to make it even slower (even 2:1)?
[18:30] <Nibinaear2> Got disconnected
[18:30] <bestdnd> (couldn't install the official software)
[18:33] <Fuzzles> a question guys im talking to a game dev for blacklight retribution adn asking if he can make a linux version and asked me if Unreal Engine 3 would work on linux? would it?
[18:36] <furycd001> HI I'm trying to install "gnome-shell" on a ubuntu mini remix iso inside virtualbox. But I get this message… [ E: Package 'gnome-shell' has no installation candidate ] …whenever I type "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell"
[18:36] <holstein> Fuzzles: i would search and ask the unreal engine team.. i can say there is nothing about ubuntu keeping that from working on linux/ubuntu
[18:36] <holstein> furycd001: any errors from sudo apt-get update?
[18:37] <furycd001> holstein: I shall go & check that now...
[18:37] <holstein> furycd001: i would make sure you are reffering to an installable package name
[18:37] <Fuzzles> holstein, ok thanks
[18:37] <furycd001> holstein: Nope "sudo apt-get update" worked fine
[18:38] <furycd001> I checked google earlier & "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell" should work !!
[18:38] <malaise> !gnome-shell
[18:39] <holstein> furycd001: i would try apt-cache search gnome-shell
[18:39] <furycd001> holstein: ok thanks ill try that now...
[18:39] <holstein> furycd001: i would use tabe complete
[18:39] <dr_willis> be sure the repos are enabled also
[18:39] <holstein> tab*
[18:40] <furycd001> ok ill try that now...
[18:40] <nahjil> Anyone have any suggestions on how to start with setting up a wireless printer on ubuntu?
[18:41] <holstein> nahjil: i would see that i can ping the device.. then its up to the hardware support from there
[18:41] <dr_willis> nahjil: i just use the cups tools  or web interface
[18:41] <nahjil> Quite the noob here how would I do either of those?
[18:42] <dr_willis> http://localhost:631    cups web interface
[18:42] <dr_willis> i think i got that right
[18:42] <furycd001> "apt-cache search gnome-shell" returns nothing at all !!
[18:43] <holstein> furycd001: then, you should troubleshoot the sources.. it'll never instlal if its not in the list
[18:43] <dr_willis> hmm
[18:43] <holstein> install*
[18:43] <dr_willis> be sure the repos are enabled also
[18:43] <dr_willis> !repos
[18:44] <furycd001> ok ill try repos & what not then return...
[18:45] <xrlgf> Hi, in ubuntuone i can't delete 2 files in the root folder /
[18:45] <bazhang> xrlgf, tried in #ubuntuone ?
[18:46] <xrlgf> oh i mistyped it and saw i was alone :D
[18:47] <nahjil> So it seems the only Artisan model of printer that cups doesn't support is the one I have...
[18:50] <jalal> anybody can help me? i was using alcatel usb dongel for internet..but after i installed ubuntu updates in 12.04 version and i restart my pc..and i lost my dialup connection
[18:50] <Guest18082> Would somebody be so nice  to tell me how to add the iso of an Ubuntu-CD to my Repositories ?
[18:51] <jalal> and my usb dongel is not working anymore!!
[18:51] <jalal>  anybody can help me? i was using alcatel usb dongel for internet..but after i installed ubuntu updates in 12.04 version and i restart my pc..and i lost my dialup connection
[18:52] <holstein> jalal: i would just try booting an earlier kernel.. tap shift after the bios at reboot.. look throughthe previous kernels
[18:52] <SamBull> I'd like to get the mail in my local mailboxes back into the mail queue so they can be processed by my updated mail aliases. is there a way to do this?
[18:53] <jalal> i am newbie can help me in easy way?
[18:54] <holstein> jalal: sure.. reinstall and dont upgrade.. or try tapping the shift key and bot an earlier kernel and let use know if it works in that older kernel
[18:55] <jalal> i did not upgrade ubuntu..i installed update which ubuntu provider by ubuntu update software
[18:55] <SamBull> The mail is in /var/spool/mail/<username>, which is the local mailbox for that user, right?
[18:55] <holstein> jalal: right... corrrect... dont update.. upgrade.. whatever you want to call it.. reinstall and dont do what you did that broke the system.. dont update pacakges
[18:56] <holstein> jalal: OR, try the troubleshooting step of booting an earler kernel
[18:56] <jalal> ok..i got this problem
[18:56] <jalal> http://askubuntu.com/questions/146948/internet-on-ubuntu-12-04-stopped-to-work-after-installing-updates-from-the-updat
[18:57] <pradeep> jalal, what is your problem
[18:57] <pradeep> please be specific
[18:57] <holstein> jalal: did the solution listed there work for you as well?
[18:58] <jalal> until now my internet working fine using alcatel usb modem..but i install update from ubuntu update manager..and i reboot pc and now usb dongel doesnot works..and dial up connect dissapear
[18:58] <bazhang> jalal, so boot into an earlier kernel
[18:59] <ernetas> I have a hosting with "unlimited" resources. Any ideas where I could use it for a greater good?
[18:59] <jalal> there no earliar kernal
[18:59] <holstein> jalal: i would try an older kernel... im suggesting a kernel update you just did could have removed functinality for your device.. you can also just reinatll the OS and dont upate again... if that is easier
[18:59] <bazhang> jalal, how did you check
[18:59] <holstein> jalal: you tap shift at reboot.. and under the "previous ubuntu.." entry
[18:59] <varikonniemi> how can i set the default view mode for nautilus? i want to open folders as "list" but it always defaults back to "icons"
[18:59] <jalal> i can not reinstall os..i have to tack data backup..
[19:00] <bazhang> jalal, how did you check for previous kernels
[19:00] <jalal> in organise you can not reinstall os.. you have to find solution for problem
[19:00] <holstein> jalal: you need to back up data regardless, for when that hard drive *will* fai
[19:00] <holstein> fail*
[19:00] <jalal> ok tell me how to boot from earlier karnel?
[19:00] <bazhang> jalal, we did
[19:01] <jalal> ok tell me how to boot from earlier karnel?
[19:01] <jalal> i have dual boot
[19:01] <bazhang> jalal, hold SHIFT at reboot
[19:01] <holstein> jalal: i would tap shift at reboot.. after the bios.. and you'll see it under "previous ubuntu.." in the grub list
[19:01] <jalal> ok i will try
[19:02] <lvmer> I've got a samba problem. I can't see 1 of my servers on the network. It should be identical to my 2nd one. I think there is a name resolution or netbios or wins conflict? & I've tried all the troubleshooting I could think of & on the net.
[19:02] <ichbinder> hello there. I have an old hard drive here that might still have some important information on it. Gparted can read all partitions, except one (size of 790GB). It shows File System unknown. How can I find out if there is a filesystem at all? I already tried to mount it with mount.ntfs-3g, the only other FS I used back then, but that failed. I just want to be sure that the partition is empty and has no information on it...
[19:03] <lvmer> FAT32? FAT16>
[19:05] <JuNiOx> malaise: thank you! just worked with both xvfb-run and flashplayer
[19:05] <ichbinder> lvmer: probably not, the drive's not that old...
[19:05] <lvmer> ichbinder: if you just want the info destroyed... plug it into a system and do a rewrite of 0's. Depending how old it is.... it could still have redundancy cylinders so you might need to do 7 passes. But newer hd's a single zero pass leaves data unrecoverable.
[19:05] <Slart> ichbinder: there are some file rescue tools in the repos you can try.. do your homework before you try them though.. doing the wrong thing might destroy the stuff you're trying to restore
[19:05] <Slart> !undelete | ichbinder
[19:05] <Xen> I am a chmist with a minor in computer science, I have worked general IT (tier 1 support) for anumber of years, and now am working as a chemist.  We are looking to setup a small server for local use (company of 5 people). For me this is a project for learning ubuntu, andmaybe saving the company a few bucks.  I am looking to setup a samba server (Done, just need help configuring) that allows my offices windows 7 computers to logon to priv
[19:06] <Xen> (or windows) username and password. THis would allow my users to each have a 'private' folder for the storage of work files and backup information.  Also this would allow me to setup IT folders for the storage of images, IT data, programs intall files etc.  I currently have an older pentium 4 machine with ubuntu server 12.04 LTS, with raided Hard drives.  My goal here is to do the following:
[19:06] <Xen>  Have a private drive for each user Have a public drive for all users Have a set of private drives for my use (IT and such)   In a windows system I would simply setup the share and have them use a local (server side) login name. In this case, do I need a domain controller? If I do, can someone point me to an ubuntu setup guide for one if they know a good one?
[19:06] <ichbinder> just tried 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda6' and it gives me paste.ubuntu.com/1360933/
[19:06] <ichbinder> which looks like it's just formated, non-partitioned data
[19:07] <SamBull> Is there a way to put the mail in the local mailbox back in the mail queue?
[19:07] <gustav__> Why is xdg-screensaver accessing files on my bluray when I mount it?
[19:07] <ichbinder> also cfdisk says "FS Type" "Free Space"
[19:08] <ichbinder> lvmer: no, I want to be sure that I'm not destroying information accidentally. ;)
[19:08] <ichbinder> Slart: ah, thanks! Have you experience with fdisk and cfdisk? Can I trust their statements and be sure the partition is empty?
[19:08] <jaha> Hello all. Just upgraded 10.04 to 12.04 with lxde installed and the system hands at boot with the "apparmor [ok]" message, cant seem to get to console, ideas?
[19:08] <jaha> hangs*
[19:10] <Slart> ichbinder: afaik fdisk/cfdisk just reads the partition table, it doesn't actually check if there is any data in the partition. So basically.. if everything is ok and in order I would trust them.. but for an old drive that might have some parts go bad I would use one of the other tools, testdisk is one, that actually looks at what is one the disk
[19:10] <Slart> *on the disk
[19:10] <lvmer> jaha: sudo apt-get remove apparmor && sudo apt-get install apparmor apparmor-profiles
[19:11] <Steevca> Hi. I have ubuntu 12.10 and X Diagnostic Settings and Apport are not responding.
[19:11] <lvmer> jaha: would reinstalling work?
[19:11] <Steevca> Is there a way to force close them?
[19:11] <Slart> ichbinder: basically it all comes down to how important the data that might be on the drive is..
[19:12] <nahjil> I would like to thank whoever got me started on the correct path it took me a minute or ten but I now have a working wireless printer.
[19:13] <dr_willis> cups is a nifty system
[19:15] <dr_willis> it can be confuseing when cups shows like 6 printeres that are the same wireless printer.. due to the printer having like 6 'services' cups could be using to print to
[19:20] <sianhulo> hey guys, I'm trying to change the size of unity icons, I know where the option is but the y actually doesn't change. and it doesn't hide even tough the option is enabled
[19:22] <ichbinder> Slart: thanks, checking with testdisk right now
[19:22] <ichbinder> Slart: it found something and said  "FAT16 >32M"
[19:22] <ichbinder> then I did Quick Search and now states something about "HPFS - NTFS"
[19:23] <Slart> ichbinder: ok.. not really sure what that means.. make sure you check the documentation before you do something
[19:23] <jhhzpa> #linux
[19:24] <ichbinder> Slart: ok, Thanks for your hints!
[19:24] <Slart> ichbinder: you're welcome, hope you find what you're looking for
[19:27] <mspencer> Hi, I'm trying to install the VMware guest additions, but it says it can't find my kernel headers. What package do I need? I've installed linux-headers-generic.
[19:30] <dr_willis> !headers
[19:35] <PSCGOhio> Greetings, found an answer in FAQ but in 12.10 it's not doing the trick... Did Software Upgrade and all the Launcher as well as top-bar menuing, etc. totally disappeared.  Tried the unity commands, just errors out and I seem to be missing things.
[19:36] <PSCGOhio> Using an onboard AMD/ATI setup, I changed to the default vid driver and I'm wondering if that somehow caused the display change issues because that driver isn't as compatible?
[19:36] <holstein> PSCGOhio: i might make a new user account and test there.. then you wil know if its user config
[19:36] <holstein> PSCGOhio: i would think it would be user config over driver issues
[19:37] <oosmajid> Hi. I'm in Ubuntu 12.10. How do I install .ttf fonts here?
[19:37] <PSCGOhio> So do I, but I can't seem to see where to change that config as the FAQ suggested either.
[19:39] <PSCGOhio> Should I be looking for a prompt to change those settings or is that a command like Ctrl-Alt-?
[19:39] <holstein> PSCGOhio: i would test with a new user first.. if i log in as new user and all is well, then i know the issue is in the /home of the current user
[19:39] <holstein> !tty | PSCGOhio can be helpful
[19:39] <woot-0854> !hi | ActionParsnip
[19:39] <PSCGOhio> Gotcha, I'll see if I can create another User.  That also didn't seem obvious but I'll dig more.  I'm used to RH, etc. on a server.
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> hi woot-0854
[19:40] <Lockal> oosmajid, doubleclick -- install
[19:40] <PSCGOhio> Aha, will check that as well - thanks!
[19:40] <holstein> PSCGOhio: in the command line, from tty, you should be more familiar then.. sudo adduser...
[19:40] <mspencer> I ran sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) but it still can't find the headers. Where do they get installed to?
[19:41] <PSCGOhio> Now that - I understand! LOL  The OS part is where I'm not used to it yet and sudden changes aren't like Win or DOS to redo.  TTY lines I'm very used to.  Thanks!
[19:42] <Evil_Eric> yay!!!!
[19:42] <holstein> PSCGOhio: you dont have to make the new user either.. i usually just do it as a troubleshooting step.. since i dont mind cleaning them out.. or just having an extra one around for troubleshooting
[19:43] <Cong> where's the enable mouse shadow button?
[19:44] <jsmith-argotec> I've setup ligthdm with lightdm-gtk-greeter and I'm trying to get ldap logins to work from remote vnc clients
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> mspencer: try:   sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[19:44] <Hammer_99> hola
[19:44] <jsmith-argotec> I can login with vnc from remote client using local user no problem, with ldap user it just disconnects
[19:44] <wa11> hello everybody?
[19:44] <mspencer> ActionParsnip: I've already ran that.
[19:44] <jsmith-argotec> ldap auth via shell is fine
[19:44] <wa11> i have a problem with my WEP Network
[19:45] <Hammer_99> @FloodBot1
[19:45] <oosmajid> Thanks. But I installed the fonts but I don't see any difference when browsing the web.
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> mspencer: try:   sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic-pae
[19:45] <wa11> how can i catch a spy within network with out sniffing his/her activity
[19:46] <Hammer_99> @FloodBot1
[19:46] <lonewulf85> I recently Upgraded to 12.10 I am unhappy, could anyone tell me or provide a link to how to downgrade back to 12.04
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> wa11: you will need to packetsniff to see what it on the LAN. You could also try nmap.
[19:46] <xangua> lonewulf85: reinstall
[19:46] <bekks> wa11: Only by stepping behind him/her and watching over his/her shoulder.
[19:46] <zykotick9> !downgrade | lonewulf85
[19:46] <ToXiC> alguien que hable castellano ? para resolver un problema con xubuntu
[19:46] <js234> @ lonewoulf why are you unhappy?
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> lonewulf85: reinstall is the only way
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> lonewulf85  delete and fresh install 12.04
[19:46] <bekks> wa11: You have to sniff to identify an intruder.
[19:47] <lonewulf85> crap I was afraid of that.
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> lonewulf85: I suggest you clean install Quantal instead of upgrading
[19:47] <mspencer> ActionParsnip: Still doesn't work. My VM is 13.10, would this be a problem with raring and thus a question for #ubuntu+1?
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> mspencer: 13.10 what?
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> mspencer  you mean 13.04 or 12.10
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> mspencer: do you mean 13.04     then it is for #ubuntu+1
[19:48] <mspencer> Sorry, I meant 13.04
[19:48] <lonewulf85> ActionParsnip: What are the benefits of a fresh install?
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> lonewulf85: there aren't the old configs and fluff from the old install causing issues.
[19:48] <MonkeyDust> lonewulf85  no upgrading issues
[19:48] <linuxawi> How set arabic language in xubuntu ?
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> lonewulf85: its how the OS is supposed to be, nothing more or less :)
[19:49] <wa11> bekks tanx
[19:49] <wa11> i try with xplico
[19:49] <lonewulf85> MonkeyDust:Nope it went fine but now it is just I keep getting crash reports from stuff that worked perfect before.
[19:49] <wa11> but i am tired
[19:49] <bekks> wa11: Whats "xplico"?
[19:49] <designbybeck> how do you change Groups in the GUI?
[19:50] <designbybeck> 12.10
[19:50] <llutz> wa11: you're using WEP but worry about intruders? odd
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> linuxawi  try sudo gnome-language-selector
[19:50] <wa11> bekks xplico is a tool in BTr3 and could decrypt and categorised the packets .pcap
[19:50] <wa11> or live sniff
[19:51] <wa11> llutz
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> lonewulf85  oh, the crash reports, i have those too
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> wa11: if its backtrack then ask in #backtrack-linux
[19:51] <mspencer> So any question related to 13.04 should be asked on #ubuntu+1 even if I think it is not specific to 13.04?
[19:51] <wa11> its forensic :)
[19:52] <lonewulf85> MonkeyDust: Did you upgrade to 12.10 from 12.04?
[19:52] <bekks> wa11: Never heard of it, wireshark's enough here :)
[19:52] <wa11> its not backtrack. im done with xplico
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> lonewulf85  fresh install
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> !find xplico
[19:52] <wa11> yes, but no sniffing!
[19:52] <wa11> plz give me another way
[19:53] <zykotick9> lonewulf85: most (not all) experienced ubuntu users fresh install...
[19:53] <bekks> wa11: Huh? Of course you can do that with wireshark. Thats what wireshark is for.
[19:54] <designbybeck> I've installed Virutualbox but I need to add vboxusers group, But I can't find how to do that in the GUI Unity 12.10
[19:54] <bekks> designbybeck: Then do it in the cmd line, which is much easier.
[19:54] <chaingun> designbybeck: groupadd
[19:54] <chaingun> in command line
[19:54] <designbybeck> chaingun bekks:  is there no longer a GUI for this in 12.10?
[19:54] <chaingun> I don't know
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: sudo usermod -a -G vboxusers $USER
[19:55] <wa11> hmmmmm..?
[19:55] <chaingun> never bothered to learn how to do it from GUI. They keep moving stuff around.
[19:55] <marsfligth> Hi
[19:55] <bekks> designbybeck: I've never done things like that with a GUI, I dont know.
[19:55] <designbybeck> hmm
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: log off then log in and you will be added to the group
[19:55] <designbybeck> thank you ActionParsnip
[19:56] <wa11> bekks: xplico can analyse the pcap file from wireshark and ...
[19:56] <bekks> wa11: And wireshark has beautiful and sophisticated filters :)
[19:57] <wa11> bekks : yes right
[19:57] <phr33k> When installing ssri using the guide on ubuntuforums.org i wasnt able to install
[19:57] <designbybeck> here is an error message I got on a new install of VB http://www.pasteall.org/37263
[19:57] <phr33k> a few of the libcrypt and libmath packages
[19:58] <phr33k> anyone know why ?
[19:58] <wa11> bekks: but im not authorised to sniff this network anymore
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: did you run:   sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[19:58] <designbybeck> I'm trying to spin up a VM of Ubuntu so I can run the Ubuntu Distro BUilder to make my own custom distro
[19:58] <bekks> designbybeck: Well, then just do as you are told by the error message.
[19:59] <bekks> wa11: Then you should stop any further activity on that and provide all your information so far to your admin.
[19:59] <designbybeck> ActionParsnip:  http://www.pasteall.org/37264
[19:59] <wa11> ok
[19:59] <designbybeck> that was my output
[19:59] <wa11> i am admin :(
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> designbybeck  this is what i used to make vbox work    sudo modprobe vboxdrv;sudo modprobe vboxnetflt
[19:59] <bekks> wa11: Which I cant believe.
[20:00] <bekks> designbybeck: "Please install the linux-headers-3.5.0-18-generic package,
[20:00] <wa11> why?
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: if you run:   sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-headers-3.5.0-18-generic   does it install?
[20:00] <bekks> designbybeck: Thats what the second message tells you.
[20:00] <designbybeck> will that not mess up anything else ActionParsnip?
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: how would it?
[20:01] <designbybeck> lol no clue!
[20:01] <wa11> bekks: this is a forensic pen test about wireless networking
[20:01] <designbybeck> i'm running it now ActionParsnip
[20:02] <wa11> i can log the users mac
[20:03] <wa11> but its not usefull
[20:03] <wa11> bekks r u there?
[20:03] <designbybeck> ActionParsnip:  bekks that worked! Thanks
[20:04] <bekks> wa11: I am here, yes. I'm trying to figure out why having the intruders MAC and still having control over your network infrastructure isnt enough to identify the location of the intruder.
[20:04] <morphias> is there a channel specific to asking questions about programming?
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> morphias  what language?
[20:04] <morphias> C++
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> morphias: try #c++
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> morphias  try #c++
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  was faster :)
[20:05] <zykotick9> morphias: see "/msg ubottu alis" for a method of searching for different channels on freenode
[20:05] <wa11> is it enough?
[20:05] <wa11> how?
[20:06] <morphias> channel C++ is invite only
[20:06] <zykotick9> morphias: see "/msg ubottu register" to fix that issue
[20:06] <bekks> wa11: Having the MAC, you can easily identify the location of the intruder by just asking your network switches: "which port is it that MAC is connected to?". Call the cops, tell them where to search, done.
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> morphias  type /msg nickserv register [password] [email]
[20:08] <Erik_D> ^...wut
[20:08] <morphias>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER morphias cpvuzitpibnq
[20:08] <netmk> lol.
[20:08] <Boreeas> Fail reg
[20:08] <wa11> bekks :within wireless network?
[20:09] <morphias> lol
[20:09] <zykotick9> morphias: no space at the beginning.  use differnt password.
[20:09] <morphias> aight
[20:09] <bekks> wa11: Sure. Wireless access point doe not have inifinite range.
[20:11] <morphias> what is the key parameter in setpass?
[20:12] <SierraAR> What's ubuntu's version of ipconfig /flushdns?
[20:13] <wa11> that means the cops go to all my neighburs door!
[20:13] <wa11> bekks : what about this
[20:13] <wa11> macchanger -r wlanX
[20:14] <bekks> wa11: Well, whatever MAC it is, you know where it is connected to.
[20:14] <zykotick9> morphias: for help registering or finding channels try the #freenode channel.  "/join #freenode"
[20:15] <wa11> bekks : yes? thats what i search
[20:15] <bekks> wa11: And why dont you just shutdown your WLAN to secure your network?
[20:15] <bekks> wa11: I told you how to find it out. :)
[20:15] <wa11> bekks :i dont understand
[20:15] <wa11> sorry
[20:16] <bekks> wa11: Either disable external access until you've secured your network or just investigate to switch AP that intruding MAC is connected and take further steps (like calling the cops) to track down the intruder.
[20:18] <d00ml0rd> does irssi have the ability to split windows side by sid e?
[20:18] <wa11> bekks : but i want to learn this steps ! i told u this is a test.
[20:19] <bekks> wa11: Then you have to learn on how to monitor your network hardware, I guess.
[20:19] <jrib> d00ml0rd: I know it didn't at one point.  Not sure if that's still true.  Check the irssi docs.  I know weechat *can* do this though
[20:21] <beatsteaks> hey guys
[20:21] <wa11> bekks: thats sounds good. but in this case i got his MAC, but i donot know how to discover his location!
[20:21] <beatsteaks> how can I enable /etc/resolv.conf.tail file to add static dns servers ??
[20:21] <jrib> !resolv.conf | beatsteaks
[20:22] <bekks> wa11: Then you have to learn on how to get that information from your hardware, which certainly isnt running Ubuntu.
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> beatsteaks: its default, just add the nameserver as you would in /etc/resolv.conf  and it gets added at the end
[20:23] <beatsteaks> jrib thanks
[20:23] <wa11> bekks: ok , r u talking about his wireless card power or ttl in pinging and etc?
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> beatsteaks: should be in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d   too ;)
[20:23] <beatsteaks> ActionParsnip but not after reboot :/
[20:24] <bekks> wa11: No. I am talking about controlling your network hardware like routers, swicthes, etc.
[20:25] <wa11> bekks : my switches map his location? :D
[20:26] <bekks> wa11: you know the range of your AP and the port your AP is connected to a switch. And you know the physical location of the switch and of the AP. Isnt that enough?
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> beatsteaks: try adding it in the base file
[20:28] <wa11> bekks : i feel stupidy!!
[20:29] <beatsteaks> ActionParsnip oki thanks, let me try
[20:30] <wa11> bekks: my AP is a gateway to internet and the clients use this to connect the internet
[20:30] <wa11> bekks : the intruders is in my LAN
[20:30] <bekks> wa11: So you know the location and the range. done.
[20:30] <Melvin> hello
[20:31] <hhn> whois hhn
[20:31] <Melvin> need help on configuring ethernet. The forums didn't help me. reeled my time and brain activity since a week. No solution! please help!
[20:32] <wa11> bekks: the location is my room for example and range 100 meter including 15 houses!
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: what ethernet chip?
[20:32] <Melvin> U mean the make?
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: yes, and model
[20:33] <bekks> wa11: Well, thats wifi :)
[20:34] <wa11> bekks: so?
[20:34] <bekks> wa11: Thats all you can get then.
[20:34] <Melvin> Atheros. I believe the model is AR813x/AR815x . I've googled my Lenovo's specs. No clue.
[20:35] <wa11> bekks : what can the cops do with this?
[20:35] <bekks> wa11: Track down the intruder.
Atheros. I believe the model is AR813x/AR815x . I've googled my Lenovo's specs. No clue.
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: why not just run:   sudo lshw -C network
[20:36] <jrib> wa11: https://twitter.com/SadaoTurner/status/230737352958566401/photo/1/large invest in one of these :x
[20:36] <genii-around> Melvin: Usually, either: lspci -nn        or: lsusb    will give some useful info about the adapter
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: then you can see EXCACT:Y what it is rather than what the web says.....
 no. that doesnt work.
[20:36] <themhz> I have installed aptana on my system, but when I open the program, the icon on the left bar is a question mark and not the aptana icon, why?
[20:37] <Tony_> hi all i was going to install ubuntu in virtual box and was wondering how much vido and cpu power to give it?. also should i use ubuntu 64 bit
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: it's a default command in Ubuntu
[20:37] <stingher> Hi
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: the command is case sensitive and the spaces are important too
 when ifconfig is entered as root, only wlan0 and lo are listed.
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: if you run the command I ran, do you see an Ethernet chip?
[20:37] <stingher> fnlag know?
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: or:  lspci    if a command with spaces is too hard
[20:38] <stingher> Hi, do you know fnlag?
[20:38] <beatsteaks> ActionParsnip thanks it worked :D
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> beatsteaks: :)
[20:38] <steJaxx> hi everyone
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: one line will identify the Ethernet chip, if not then you may want to check it is enabled in BIOS
[20:39] <Tony_> anyone no how much ram and v ram and processor to give ubuntu in virtual box?
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> Tony_: which desktop are you using?
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> Tony_: on the guest, that is :)
[20:40] <steJaxx> who used kde instead unity ?
[20:40] <Tony_> havent installed it yet but my host system is win 7  and i d-loaded the 64 bit version of ubuntu 12.10 i think it is the latest one
 I ran them !
[20:40] <bekks> steJaxx: Oh, another poll?
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: do you see the controller
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> steJaxx: you can run unity in Kde if you want
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> steJaxx: unity isn't a replacement for Gnome
[20:41] <steJaxx> yes it is!!
[20:41] <Braber00001> question how to I print address Labels in LibireOffice?
 I do! its Atheros Communications Device [1969;1090] (rev 10)
[20:41] <wa11> bekks : thanks a lot!
[20:41] <Tony_> wanted to have it all down so all i have to do is install it in virtual box and set it up and go from there
[20:41] <steJaxx> how can I run unity in kde ?
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: ok, use the hex ID you see to find guides
[20:42] <Braber00001> In libireOffice CaLC, how do I print address Labels?
[20:42] <gustav__> Anyone know why xdg-screensaver opens files in the bluray when I'm watching it with vlc?
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> steJaxx: you'll need to run compiz instead of kwin     I've not done it myself but in theory it makes sense
 I'm sorry but what hex ID?
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: 1969:1090     they are hexadecimal values
 ok. what do i do with them.
[20:43] <wa11> bekks : in ur country cops can investigate all the 15 houses and check the MACs? :-p
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%221969%3A1090%22+ubuntu    something like that.....
[20:44] <xangua> steJaxx: kde already has a fullscreen launcher, unity like http://www.iloveubuntu.net/kde-developers-launch-homerun-unity-interface
[20:44] <steJaxx> very interesting
[20:44] <guntbert> Braber00001: maybe ask in #libreoffice
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> !info glabels | Braber00001
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> Braber00001: source:  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+label+printer
 ok, will look into it. But stay here. I might need u again. thanks for that. will be right back!
 Come in!
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: huh?
[20:47] <Fishscene> Greetings. I'm trying to compress 29GB of data. I'm using "Archive manager" to do this, but quite frankly, I can't wait 24 - 48 hours for it to compress. Is there some way of setting the compression level?
[20:47] <mikestewart> Fishscene, depends on the type of compression
 I tried that package! I recently posted a question on the same in "askubuntu.com".. would u please read that? here's the link.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/217719/unable-to-configure-ethernet-on-lenovo-g580-laptop
[20:48] <Tony_> so in theory would 1 gig ram work and 2 processors and nowt sure how much video ram to allocate to it inside V-box
[20:48] <Fishscene> mikestweart: I have been using 7zip, which I *know* supports different levels, but I can't seem to find the options for it.
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> Fishscene: if you use options in gzip you can set compression level
[20:49] <mikestewart> Fishscene, er, rather no.  at least not via GUI
[20:49] <Melvin> Fishscene: remember, higher the compression ratio, longer the time it takes to reach that ratio!
[20:49] <Fishscene> ActionParsnip: Is "gzip" the name of a program?
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> Fishscene: yes
[20:49] <Fishscene> Melvin: Correct. I suspect it's maximizing the compression, but I only need to shave a couple of gigs off
[20:50] <moonvoniron> Can i run 'phtoscape.exe" with ubuntu 12.04LTS ?
[20:50] <guntbert> Melvin: just a hint from the sideline: you don't need < > around nicknames
[20:50] <dr_willis> 7zip has cli tools also
[20:50] <Melvin> fishscene have u got 7zip?
[20:51] <moonvoniron> please , help me ..
[20:51] <woot-0854> exit
[20:51] <Fishscene> Melvin: Yup. I'm looking up the command line now so I can set the compression level
[20:52] <themhz> I have installed aptana on my system, but when I open the program, the icon on the left bar is a question mark and not the aptana icon, why?
[20:52] <dr_willis> !appdb | moonvoniron
[20:52] <Melvin> ActionParsnip any solution for that post?
[20:52] <Tony_> please anyone have help for me this is my first virtual box setup
[20:52] <bekks> Tony_: Just assign 16MB VRAM.
[20:52] <dr_willis> Tony_:  i tend to just use the defaults, you can change them later
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> Melvin: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/alx   seems to need the alx module
[20:53] <lonewulf85> Would anyone be able to help with a minor question. I need to reinstall, I will be going with 12.04 my question is I have a amd c60 cpu which is 64bit would the 12.04 64bit be better for me then the 32bit?
[20:53] <designbybeck> If you create a fixed VDI in VirtualBox can you resize it??
[20:53] <Tony_> yea but someone over at forums said it was quit lag with defualts so before i did it i came over here to ask lol
[20:53] <designbybeck> I undershot the size I needed!!
[20:53] <dr_willis> lonewulf85:  id go 64bit os on 64bit hardware these days
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: I'd ask in #vbox
[20:54] <designbybeck> Thanks ActionParsnip
[20:54] <dr_willis> designbybeck:  yes you can
[20:54] <Melvin> fishscene tar -cvf file.tar /path/to/directory ; gzip -9 file.tar.gz
[20:54] <devslash> I think im having some over head issues on my headless ubuntu server which doesnt have xorg installed. When i do ps -A i see 11 apache processes. I closed all browsed all the browsers connected to my site and no one else has the link to it
[20:54] <Fishscene> Melvin: Thanks mate.
[20:54] <Melvin> fishscene "9" is for the highest compression ratio.
[20:54] <lonewulf85> dr_willis: Where I plan on learning to program will the 64bit cpu and kernel help me out?
[20:55] <Tony_> ok so should i do a fixed lik3 20 or 30 gig virtual drive or let v- box handel it?
[20:55] <devslash> Any ideas?
[20:55] <Melvin> fishscene however the default is not 1, but 6.
[20:55] <Melvin> actioparsnip I tried that too. no luck. hope u r still patient :/
[20:56] <guntbert> !tab | Melvin another hint
[20:56] <moonvoniron> dr_willis:  I opened it with wine then so many numbers appears
[20:56] <dr_willis> Tony_:  you could always use more then one virtual drive if you wanted.
[20:57] <dr_willis> moonvoniron:  see #winehq for wine help.  i dont use photoshop
[20:57] <devslash> I think im having some overhead issues on my headless ubuntu server which doesnt have xorg installed. It seems to slow down noticeably at random times.  When i do ps -A i see 11 apache processes. I closed all browsed all the browsers connected to my site and no one else has the link to it
[20:57] <Melvin> tab key. how? god!
[20:58] <dr_willis> devslash:  some services keep a few processes/threads 'open and ready' for when someone does connect
[20:58] <Melvin> !tab
[20:58] <moonvoniron> ok
[20:58] <moonvoniron> :)
[20:58] <devslash> Dr_willis then how do i see if a process is slowing down my server
[20:58] <Tony_> reason i ask is it defaults dynamically expanding virtual hard drive  but some say a fixed drive is better whats your take on this?
[20:58] <Melvin> ActionParsnip come in!
[20:59] <dr_willis> devslash:  what does htop say about the system?
[20:59] <bekks> Tony_: Just use a dynamically sized disk for your first steps.
[20:59] <dr_willis> Tony_:  i use dynamic
[20:59] <dr_willis> i just use vbox to test different distros
[20:59] <guntbert> devslash: apache starts by default several processes "just in case"
[21:00] <Tony_> one more question can i safely run Ubuntu all the time in V-box? wanted to ask before i go all the  way here.
[21:00] <sianhulo> guys, I tried to chage icon size of unity and make it hide, but for some reason it didn't change anything
[21:00] <guntbert> Tony_: of course
[21:01] <dr_willis> Tony_:  not sure what you mean by that
[21:01] <Tony_> like can  i run it all the time like a normal install ?
[21:01] <Melvin> ActionParsnip Come in!
[21:01] <devslash> Htop lists a lot of processes.im not sure how to read it
[21:01] <dr_willis> Tony_:  you could
[21:01] <Fishscene> Tony_: Ubuntu runs just fine in Virtualbox. The only caveats are hardware accelleration and working in a VM environment (same with any virtual machine)
[21:01] <dr_willis> devslash:  it should show the ones using the most cpu first
[21:02] <Tony_> hmm how do i tell if i have hardware acceleration?
[21:02] <Melvin> would somebody address my problem! :/
[21:03] <dr_willis> Melvin:  i dont even recall seeing you state a problem
[21:03] <devslash> Ok htop is at the top followed by 2 utorrent server processes and 18 mysqld processes
[21:03] <bulletrulz> this is a picture from bad bunny
[21:03] <bulletrulz> http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/File:Badbunny.jpeg
[21:03] <Fishscene> Tony_: Since a virtual machine runs on top of an existing operating system, it doesn't necessarily have native or full access to the hardware (especially for 3D graphics). But this is an issue with the nature of VM's themselves and not an Ubuntu-specific problem. However, I say go ahead and give it a try and see for yourself how well it works for you.
[21:04] <Melvin> I did. ActionPArsnip was suppposed to be the medicine. He ain't online now i believe!
[21:04] <dr_willis> devslash:  and your total cpu load is what? what does uptime say about your load
[21:04] <Tony_> ok i see so only way i will be able to tell is to install it configure it and go from there thanks will do and thanks for the help here :)
[21:05] <dr_willis> if htop is the top process.. then i imagine your load is quite low
[21:05] <devslash> Where does it show the load
[21:05] <Melvin> dr_willis i have a lenovoG580 and the ethernet card doesnt show up in the terminal! ifconfig inputted, but no display of any eth0 or eth1 apart from lo and wlan0.
[21:05] <devslash> I mean the total load
[21:05] <dr_willis> should be a %cpu used somewhere
[21:05] <lonewulf85> I plan on learning to program will the 64bit cpu and kernel help me out?
[21:06] <dr_willis> lonewulf85:  i doubt it it will matter much
[21:06] <devslash> Load average is 0.4%
[21:06] <dr_willis> lonewulf85:  'learning to program' could be done on a PaspberryPi ;)  its a big topic
[21:06] <lonewulf85> dr_willis: I know that if I want to also program 64bit apps it might make a difference correct?
[21:07] <dr_willis> lonewulf85:  i imagine it will be some time befor 64bit vs 3bit matters to you.
[21:07] <dr_willis> 32bit.
[21:07] <Melvin> ANYONE??
[21:07] <devslash> Dr_willis the load average is 0.6%
[21:08] <lonewulf85> dr_willis: alrighty thanks and now I get to reinstall apps YEAH!!!!
[21:08] <devslash> It varies
[21:08] <Melvin> dr_willis
[21:08] <dr_willis> devslash:  seems nice and low to me.
[21:08] <devslash> Ok maybe my issue isnt a server overhead issue then
[21:09] <dr_willis> Melvin:  id check the forums and askubuntu.com about your exact make laptop and the chipset its using. its rare a wired nic dosent work.. and rarer for an ibm box to have issues
[21:09] <mag]]> oh shit, gnome just flipped its shit, I'm fucked
[21:10] <mokarenko> Hello everyone. I need to know how to get a volume control applet in the panel (xfce) without resorting to the indicator plugin (I tried at #xubuntu but no one has answered) Any ideas?
[21:10] <Melvin> dr_willis i tried the forums! no clue! i'm on a hunt since a week! believe me. i wdnt land here before going to the forums.
[21:10] <Fishscene> Melvin: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[21:10] <Melvin> dr_willis My question on askubuntu.com.
[21:10] <dr_willis> Melvin:  tried askubuntu.com?
[21:11] <dr_willis> you did search there first? ;)
[21:11] <Fishscene> Melvin: Specifically, what happens when you run "sudo lshw -class network"
[21:11] <Melvin> dr_willis http://askubuntu.com/questions/217719/unable-to-configure-ethernet-on-lenovo-g580-laptop
[21:11] <slavik__> tst
[21:12] <Melvin> Fishscene i ran that command . it says "sudo: /etc/sudoers.dreadme is mode 0555, should be 0440
[21:12] <dr_willis> Melvin:  i would also test with some other different distros, like puppylinux, tinycorelinux and other live cds
[21:13] <dr_willis> Melvin:  see if it works with any of them
[21:13] <zootsko> Hi. wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve says to install NVIDIA drivers from 'Software Properties', but I do not see any drivers there. Can anyone help, please?
[21:13] <C2> HI EVERYBODY!
[21:13] <jrib> zootsko: what ubuntu version?
[21:14] <zootsko> jrib: 12.10
[21:14] <dr_willis> zootsko:  in 12.10 the addatoinal-drivers tab is in the 'software sources' tool now
[21:14] <GoRg> Slm
[21:14] <bkfitz> 12.04 on a new x1 carbon laptop - had it a month.  ~5 times the machine has just frozen solid... as in total coma.  screen freezes and no inputs work. It just happend when I opened Google Chrome, but it has happened other times as well.  Anything I can do to troubleshoot?  I've just rebooted
[21:14] <Fishscene> Melvin: dreadme = your username? Sounds like a permissions issue or something... which could be part of your problem.
[21:14] <GoRg> Alo
[21:14] <GoRg> Nistin
[21:14] <jrib> Fishscene: he probably means /etc/sudoers.d/README and just mistyped the error
[21:15] <Melvin> dr_willis Here's the thing. i googled, ubuntuforumed, searched ask ubuntu.com regarding the inability of Lenovo g580's to automaticaly cinfigure ethernet . These lenovo's have an issue. A compat driver must be downloaded and installed via the terminal.
[21:15] <GoRg> Khobid?
[21:15] <dr_willis> Fishscene:  i think he ment   sudoers.d/readme
[21:15] <GoRg> !ping
[21:15] <zootsko> dr_willis: I see no drivers under the 'Additional drivers' tab. Just an empty list.
[21:15] <Melvin> fishscene username? where?
[21:15] <dr_willis> zootsko:  and your video card is? is it one of those optimus chipsets?
[21:16] <Fishscene> oh hah. I didn't even see that. ...but strange that it would throw that error after running "sudo lshw -class network"
[21:16] <zootsko> dr_willis: Its GeForce GT 630M
[21:16] <dr_willis> sounds like hes been messing in sudoers.d/
[21:16] <ses1984> i'm trying to configure ubuntu as a tftp server for pxe boot. it seems like i'm starting to get things right but i'm stuck at a certain spot and can't figure out what's wrong
[21:17] <Melvin> Fishscene here it is. http://askubuntu.com/questions/217719/unable-to-configure-ethernet-on-lenovo-g580-laptop
[21:17] <Melvin> dr_willis http://askubuntu.com/questions/217719/unable-to-configure-ethernet-on-lenovo-g580-laptop
[21:17] <Fishscene> ses1984: Are you following a guide? If so, post the guide and let us know which step you are stuck on
[21:17] <ses1984> on the machine, i can tftp localhost, and get pxelinux.0 which i got from netboot.tar.gz from ubuntu's server. extracted the whole thing into /srv/tftp
[21:17] <ses1984> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/install-tftp.html
[21:18] <ses1984> the client starts to pxe boot, gets an ip from the dhcp server, and gets pxelinux.0 from the tftp server. i can see in the syslog of the server that the client requested pxelinux.0
[21:18] <ses1984> then the client just says "MTFTP..." and does nothing after that
[21:18] <dr_willis> Melvin:  so .. you got an answer on what you need to do? you just dont understand  it?
[21:19] <Melvin> dr_willis Thats my question in askubuntu.com buddy. thought that would give u a clear look on what i'm trying to convey.
[21:20] <dr_willis> im on my phone so cant do much research.  you said you needed some driver. where did that info come from?
[21:20] <ikonia> what network card is it ?
[21:20] <chaingun> Melvin: eth0 not showing up indicates that the proper driver isn't loaded
[21:21] <Fishscene> ses1984: Check the solution here and see if it helps: http://scug.be/sccm/2011/01/13/configmgr-2007-pxe-boot-amp-mtftp-defaulting-and-make-you-wait-for-10-15-minutes
[21:21] <ses1984> thanks i'll check it out
[21:21] <sianhulo> guys, changing icon size and hiding unity is impossible. It's like ubuntu is ignoring what i'm changing
[21:22] <dr_willis> sianhulo:  make a new user.. see if it works for them.
[21:22] <Melvin> chaingun THATS exactly what i mean! where do i star from! please help!!
[21:22] <ikonia> Melvin: what network card is it
[21:22] <dr_willis> sianhulo:  ive seen where some config files get owned by root and thus cant get changed.. the new user test may give a clue if thats the case
[21:22] <sianhulo> dr_willis, well, this is dresh install, though i kept my /home, in the case it works with other user what should I do then?
[21:22] <Melvin> ikonia atheros AR813x/Ar815x...
[21:23] <ikonia> that's wireles
[21:23] <ikonia> wireless
[21:23] <chaingun> Melvin: Your first step is to find out what the correct driver is. Then determine whether it is available in the standard repositories or not. If it is, you're in luck. Just install from there and you should be good to go. Otherwise, your best bet is to grab the source for the proper driver, and compile/install it yourself.
[21:23] <dr_willis> sianhulo:  you could just reset all your unity and compiz settinga back to default also
[21:23] <gapert> i need help , 2 weeks ago i installed ubuntu , what to do with  dev/mapper/cryptswap1 , ?
[21:23] <Fishscene> ses1984: "MTFTP" seems to refer to "Multicast Trivial File Transfer Protocol" - which I'm not sure why anyone would be using that. so if you aren't, you might also want to look into anything that might be enabling a multicast option on your PXE setup.
[21:23] <chaingun> Melvin: This is not a simple process if this is your first time messing with this stuff. But you will learn a lot as you work through it.
[21:23] <dr_willis> bbl.. gotta run
[21:23] <ikonia> gapert: why did you encypt swap ?
[21:23] <gapert> i don know,
[21:24] <sianhulo> dr_willis, well, i'll google that as i tried it already, I think they changed them so I'll leave, thanks
[21:24] <Dezgeg> Hi. Can someone transfer this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/1024800 to the package responsible for the "Keyboard layout" option in System settings
[21:24] <ikonia> Dezgeg: transfer this bug ?
[21:24] <Dezgeg> that's not the correct package i presume
[21:25] <ikonia> Dezgeg: the bug team will pick it up
[21:25] <Dezgeg> well that's over 4 months old already
[21:25] <ikonia> Dezgeg: the bug team will pick it up
[21:25] <chaingun> Melvin: I assume you have come across this http://www.zyxware.com/articles/2680/solved-wired-connection-eth0-not-detected-in-ubuntu-12-04
[21:25] <gapert> i installed ubuntu , then after a few days ago , don anything about it
[21:25] <Melvin> chaingun hows that possible. here's the list. now i can't try all these packages right!! http://linuxwireless.org/download/compat-wireless-2.6/
[21:25] <chaingun> Melvin:  that article I just linked walks you through it
[21:25] <ikonia> oops
[21:25] <Melvin> chaingun Yes, i have! No luck with that bro!
[21:25] <ikonia> sorry
[21:26] <ikonia> Melvin: that is your wireless
[21:26] <chaingun> Melvin:  what step do you get stuck on
[21:26] <ikonia> Melvin: you said your ethernet
[21:26] <chaingun> the article states that this fixes the wired issue as well
[21:26] <chaingun> I don't pretend to understand how
[21:26] <Melvin> ikonia its an ethernet LAN controller.
[21:27] <ikonia> Melvin: right - so why are you looking at wireless networking packages
[21:27] <chaingun> Melvin:  I have about 2 minutes before I have to go.
[21:27] <chaingun> Melvin:  what part do you get stuck at?
[21:27] <Melvin> chaingun when i say ifconfig my LAN card soesn't show up in the terminal.
[21:27] <chaingun> have you compiled and installed that driver?
[21:27] <Dezgeg> Oh dear god. I really wonder why people ever bother even trying, Stockholm syndrome I guess.
[21:27] <iwaffles> I changed my password using 'passwd' and I can login via ssh but not sftp because it rejects the password. Is there a way to refresh this?
[21:27] <Melvin> chaingun no.
[21:27] <ses1984> Fishscene: i figured the part about the multicast tftp and i haven't found anything to indicate why it's being used in my config. still looking. by the way i'm using ddwrt as the dhcp server using dhcpd and dnsmasq
[21:28] <Melvin> changun i cant see mu eth0.
[21:28] <gapert> what is the best .nl channel too ask what do about the dev/mapper/cryptswap ? sometimes i get a little chance too press S for mount or M for maniging by hand
[21:28] <bekks> Melvin: Then check "ifconfig -a"
[21:28] <chaingun> Melvin: because you haven;t installed the driver yet
[21:28] <chaingun> install the driver and it should appear
[21:28] <chaingun> I must go. If I am back on later I can try to help more
[21:29] <tinkster> debian 6.0.6,  mrtg 2.16.3-3 ... it appears that mrtg is trying to monitor things I didn't ask for, and failing to get systemUptime (which doesn't exist looking at snmpwalk output on the box) generates an e-Mail every 5 minutes, which is annoying  ... googling for 1 h shows similar reports for the last 12 years :} ... feeding the option NoMIB2 seems to make this go away; would it be worthwhile to create a bug-report w/ solution?
[21:29] <Melvin> ikonia
[21:29] <ikonia> Melvin: what ?
[21:29] <Melvin> chaingun so how do i get that driver?
[21:29] <bekks> tinkster: How is that related to Ubuntu?
[21:29] <tinkster> Ooops
[21:29] <tinkster> right you are
[21:29] <tinkster> wrong channel
[21:30] <Fishscene> ses1984: Acknowledged. I had a few .... fun trials when trying to configure the DHCP server when I had ddwrt a few years ago. I'm horribly out of touch with that project now though. =\
[21:30] <Melvin> chaingun the forums say thats the only way i can get my ethernet LAN working. But i'm screwed.
[21:30] <Melvin> bekks that doesnt help either! only wlan0 and lo are listed
[21:31] <ikonia> Melvin: why will you not answer the quesiton, what network card is it
[21:32] <Melvin> THE THING NOW IS TO FIND THAT COMPATIBLE DRIVER!
[21:32] <Melvin> IKONIA ITS ATHEROS!
[21:32] <ikonia> Melvin: typing in caps won't help
[21:32] <ikonia> Melvin: that is your wireless card
[21:32] <ikonia> not your ethernet card
[21:32] <sianhulo> dr_willis, ok, this is wierd, I used unity-reset for the matter, and it changed for what I put, however, jsut for a few seconds and came back to normal....
[21:32] <Melvin> ikonia no! its the LAN card.
[21:32] <ikonia> Melvin: it is possible, but I don't agree it is
[21:32] <Fishscene> How would Melvin display the ethernet adapter card info?
[21:33] <sianhulo> dr_willis, nevermind, now it changed again
[21:33] <bekks> Fishscene: By using lspci -vvn e.g.
[21:33] <ikonia> lspci will show the devices or lshw
[21:34] <ekhaat> sv
[21:34] <Melvin> fishscene its atheros AR813x/ AR815x! the correct version isnt known. i tried the internet for the lenovo G580 specs and hardware config. no sound.
[21:34] <Fishscene> Melvin: try: lspci | grep "Ethernet"
[21:34] <ikonia> "the correct versions isn't known" - nonsense
[21:35] <votz> I am attempting to build the netcat-openbsd package from source. I've checked out the contents with 'apt-get source netcat-openbsd'. I then run 'dpkg-source -x netcat-openbsd_1.89-3ubuntu5.dsc' and that completes successfully. But, upon build there are errors.
[21:35] <Melvin> fishscene that command doesn't display a thing
[21:35] <ikonia> votz: why are you building it from source
[21:35] <ikonia> Melvin: pastebin the output of "lspci" please.
[21:35] <ikonia> votz: there is a package
[21:36] <ikonia> Melvin: (please make sure in a pastebin, not the channel)
[21:36] <votz> netcat-openbsd-1.89/netcat.c isn't modified, even though there are changes to netcat.c that should be applied in the diff. They aren't. Any idea why?
[21:36] <Melvin> iknia. one moment. on it.
[21:37] <votz> ikonia: I would like to port this openbsd version of netcat to a different version of linux. I am starting by getting it built on Ubuntu.
[21:37] <ikonia> votz: there is no value in building it on ubuntu
[21:37] <ikonia> if you are going to port it
[21:38] <ikonia> just build it on the target platform
[21:38] <votz> ikonia: I need to resolve the patching issue first, Ubuntu or not.
[21:39] <ikonia> votz: then resolve it
[21:40] <votz> ikonia: I have also attempted to patch manually, following this guide: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/source-unpack.txt. I am unsure why netcat.c remains unpatched.
[21:40] <ikonia> votz: unpack the source, patch it and build it outside of the deb system
[21:43] <jorgerosa> Hello all
[21:46] <Melvin> I'm back!
[21:46] <jorgerosa> I am developing a (sort of) music player (simple stuff + crossplatform libraries) I can compile it for MS Windows (exe binaries), BUT I need someone to compile it to Ubuntu (So, even I could use in my loved Ubuntu PC), can anyone do this, please?
[21:46] <Melvin> fishscene
[21:46] <Melvin> ikonia
[21:46] <Melvin> ikonia http://pastebin.com/dqMtL7HS
[21:46] <jorgerosa> thanks in advance :)
[21:46] <ikonia> jorgerosa: what language is it written in
[21:47] <jorgerosa> c++
[21:47] <jorgerosa> im using c::B
[21:47] <ikonia> jorgerosa: what display libraries ?
[21:47] <Melvin> Fishscene http://pastebin.com/dqMtL7HS
[21:47] <jorgerosa> but is simple only 1 c++ file + libs
[21:47] <ikonia> Melvin: it's a broadcom
[21:47] <ikonia> oops
[21:47] <ikonia> no it's not
[21:47] <ikonia> jorgerosa: what graphics library is it using
[21:48] <Fishscene> Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Device 1090 (rev 10)
[21:48] <jorgerosa> ikonia: can i post urls here?
[21:48] <ikonia> jorgerosa: no
[21:48] <ikonia> jorgerosa: just tell me
[21:48] <ikonia> jorgerosa: you've written it
[21:48] <llutz> Melvin: sudo update-pciids
[21:48] <ikonia> jorgerosa: what  graphics library
[21:48] <ikonia> llutz: I was just thinking the pci id is probably wrong
[21:49] <llutz> ikonia: or too new to be recognized
[21:49] <jorgerosa> ok, its IMP - Irrlicht Media Player (on sourceforgenet) it uses Irrlicht + Audiere (thats all)
[21:49] <ikonia> llutz: that's the other
[21:49] <ikonia> jorgerosa: you said you had written it
[21:49] <jorgerosa> y
[21:49] <Melvin> ikonia http://pastebin.com/PHy498L1
[21:49] <ikonia> jorgerosa: right - so what graphics library is it using
[21:50] <jorgerosa> Irrlicht (3D graphics engine)
[21:50] <ikonia> jorgerosa: it must be using something to draw the actual display
[21:50] <jorgerosa> OpenGl, u mean?
[21:50] <ikonia> GTK/QT/MFC/$something
[21:50] <ikonia> Melvin: is that after update-pcids ?
[21:51] <jorgerosa> an, nope, all from Irrlicht (simple embed -crossplatform- keyboard + windows stuff, no needs aditional stuff)
[21:52] <Melvin> ikonia the result of the command http://pastebin.com/Y5D6rgej
[21:52] <votz> ikonia: This is what I'm doing. http://pastie.org/private/tgsdmgrib6uasxjr8rjq
[21:52] <jorgerosa> its kind of a sort of mini SDL an Wx (if i may say that way)
[21:53] <Melvin> ikonia oops! is it pcids or pciids?
[21:53] <Fishscene> Melvin: That Sudo problem needs to be fixed or you aren't going to get anywhere fixing this issue.
[21:53] <ikonia> Melvin: this is backtrack !!!!
[21:53] <Melvin> ikonia yes it is!
[21:53] <ikonia> Melvin: this channel supports UBUNTU
[21:53] <Fishscene> -_____-
[21:54] <Melvin> ikonia i know. that backtrack channel wasn't responsive. and the same issue goes in ubuntu too!
[21:54] <ikonia> sorry - no
[21:54] <ikonia> you need to tack this to backtrack
[21:54] <votz> In the diff file, there are patches like http://pastie.org/private/ngzcabqldubew3osz5qbta. But after the patch, netcat.c remains unpatched at the Feb 20, 2007 version. Here is the output of the patch command. http://pastie.org/private/4bn9wun6gdzaapm56xuew. No errors.
[21:54] <Melvin> ikonia the config is similar in both! the same kernel resides in both of them.
[21:55] <ikonia> sorry - no
[21:55] <ikonia> Melvin: this needs to go to backtrack
[21:55] <ikonia> votz: why are you trying to patch it outside the source tree ?
[21:55] <Melvin> ikonia no no! you see, i've tried really hard since a week and half. 14hrs a day on my system, and please dont abandon this!
[21:56] <ikonia> Melvin: it's not for this channel
[21:56] <Fishscene> Melvin: Each distro handles things *slightly* differently, which makes it exceedingly difficult for even related distro's to iron out issues such as this. If you can duplicate this problem within Ubuntu and work on this *though* Ubuntu, then we can assist.
[21:56] <Melvin> fishscene i concur. shoot!
[21:56] <votz> ikonia: The patch file headers are prefixed with netcat-openbsd-1.89/ and -p0 is used.
[21:57] <Fishscene> brb. I need to take care of some things.
[21:57] <ikonia> votz: it doesn't look like it's patching it
[21:57] <Melvin> ikonia now shoot! help me out ! its ubuntu now !
[21:57] <ikonia> Melvin: no you are not
[21:57] <OerHeks> !bt > Melvin
[21:57] <maslo> hi guys I'm pretty new to shell scripting and I'm wondering how I'd manage to do 2 things, using df-h how would I only get the Size and Used value? and how would I multiply a variable by 0.0009765625 says something about the base being too big
[21:57] <ikonia> Melvin: please take it to #backtrack-linux
[21:57] <jrib> maslo: #bash can help you with scripting
[21:57] <votz> ikonia: Ya. I don't know why.
[21:59] <MFen> how do i configure my servers so postfix stops asking me that useless goddamn question during upgrades
[21:59] <Melvin> ikonia it says "cannot send to channel"
[21:59] <ikonia> Melvin: you're not registered
[21:59] <MFen> sorry for the rage, but this just killed an entire client's server of mine
[21:59] <MFen> postfix popped up its question during a headless upgrade, AFTER postgresql was shut down. doom.
[21:59] <Melvin> ikonia assist please. registration,
[22:00] <llutz> !register  | Melvin
[22:00] <MFen> when i provision a new server, the first thing i want to do is tell dpkg STOP ASKING ME ABOUT POSTFIX
[22:00] <ikonia> nice to know you lied about asking in the backtrack channel too
[22:00] <ikonia> MFen: thanks fofr that random pointless outburst, please don't do it again
[22:00] <woot-0854> lol @ bt
[22:01] <MFen> ikonia: so you don't know?
[22:01] <ikonia> MFen: don't know what ?
[22:01] <MFen> the answer to the question
[22:01] <Qalqi> why is 12.10 so unstable?
[22:01] <ikonia> MFen: you've not asked a question
[22:01] <ikonia> Qalqi: it's not,
[22:01] <llutz> MFen: sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix -> "configure later"
[22:01] <ikonia> you've just ranted
[22:01] <ikonia> (unless I missed the question)
[22:02] <robotti^> Qalqi: how it is unstable?
[22:02] <MFen> ikonia: it was above. (not very far above.)
[22:02] <MFen> llutz: dpkg-reconfigure is too late. i want this done before i even attempt to install postfix. i want to never see that prompt, even once
[22:02] <oldgettingsomewh> while on the postfix subject what would be best small email program for a linux server?
[22:02] <ikonia> MFen: it's asking you to configure postfix during the upgrade as it needs a response
[22:03] <ikonia> oldgettingsomewh: personal choice, pick what you like
[22:03] <llutz> oldgettingsomewh: mail
[22:03] <robert_> Hi! All.
[22:03] <woot-0854> yo robert_
[22:03] <MFen> ikonia: it doesn't. postfix has a config file already. i set it up by hand during install. by even asking me that question, postfix is asking me whether i want to ruin my handmade config file
[22:03] <oldgettingsomewh> ikonia what would you use?
[22:03] <bibinou> hi guys I usually do `du -sh * | sort -h` to sort by file size in precise
[22:04] <bibinou> but I have a lucid machine here and it says the sort -h option do not exist
[22:04] <ikonia> MFen: so answer "no"
[22:04] <votz> ikonia: Running patch with --verbose doesn't highlight anything useful. I'm at a loss as to why some things aren't being patched. Patches for netcat.c and other unpatched files reside in the diff. Example: http://pastie.org/private/vphjh2erh7wn2db6hc15q
[22:04] <woot-0854> bibinou: you can also right click the empty spots in nautilus
[22:04] <MFen> ikonia: "no" isn't even an answer to the prompt, but the prompt itself is the problem
[22:04] <bibinou> do you CLI wiz know if that was added recently ?
[22:04] <ikonia> MFen: it wants you to answer
[22:04] <MFen> is there a general way to configure your system so interactive prompts are never shown
[22:04] <ikonia> MFen: your only real option is to use response files
[22:05] <MFen> ah, there we go. how do i use response files?
[22:05] <bibinou> woot : yeah I want a list of files in the directory sorted by file size
[22:05] <Melvin> ikonia which IRC client must i use?
[22:05] <ikonia> Melvin: anyone you want
[22:05] <ikonia> Melvin: I've not done it for a long time
[22:05] <ikonia> Melvin: sorry that wasn't for you
[22:05] <remix_tj> hi, anyone has installed correctly skype from repository on precise 64bit? i continue getting failed depencencies about multiarch
[22:05] <bibinou> woot-0854: not the size of this dir
[22:05] <ikonia> MFen: I've not done it for a long time, but that's what you need
[22:05] <woot-0854> bibinou: @ / ?
[22:05] <Melvin> ikonia I''m on winXP. so which one? :1
[22:05] <Guest26760> Hi! All.
[22:05] <ikonia> Melvin: anyone you want
[22:06] <woot-0854> bibinou: you use gparted?
[22:06] <Guest26760> I just installed UBUNTU STUDIO.
[22:06] <MFen> ikonia: thanks! i google now.
[22:07] <maslo> how would I store
[22:07] <maslo> hddmax=`df -h | grep /dev/simfs | awk {'print $2'}` without it executing the result as a command?
[22:07] <chaingun> Is Melvin still in here?
[22:07] <Melvin> chaingun yeah:/
[22:07] <bibinou> woot-0854: not installed but you can do that with gparted ?
[22:07] <ikonia> chaingun: he's using backtrack so I suggest joinining him in #backtrack-linux if you want to help him
[22:07] <chaingun> Did you get that driver installed?
[22:08] <chaingun> ikonia: oh
[22:08] <Melvin> ikonia I have pidgin. never knew i could integrate to it! thanks a ton for everything! will remember! \m/
[22:08] <Melvin> chaingun no. i'm supposed to hit backtrack ://
[22:09] <MFen> ikonia: looks like it's actually debconf-set-selections that i want! http://serverfault.com/questions/228266/how-do-i-generate-a-response-file-to-be-used-with-apt-get-or-aptitude
[22:09] <MFen> but "response files" led me there so thanks again
[22:09] <woot-0854> bibinou: you still there?
[22:09] <Melvin> chaingun but backtrack's linux too. the poing being here: Unable to butkick LAN !
[22:09] <ikonia> Melvin: bravo
[22:10] <ikonia> MFen: bravo
[22:12] <votz> ikonia: Do you have any further ideas? I'm stumped. Could you try those 5 lines yourself and see if you can reproduce the problem?
[22:12] <ikonia> votz: I don't have the packages here as I'm no on ubuntu
[22:12] <ikonia> votz: if you tar them up for me and put them on a url I will
[22:12] <votz> ikonia: One moment. Thank you.
[22:13] <Chartax> Hi all, I have an issue with wifi
[22:13] <Chartax> It's got me at a loss.
[22:13] <Melvin> chaingun
[22:13] <woot-0854> lol k so I right clicked on the drive @ / and looked at propertys Idk y but it says I have 170 TB of info :D lol its a 140gb disk
[22:13] <ikonia> Melvin: enough now, take it to #backtrack-linux please.
[22:13] <Chartax> I can't even see it in lspci or lsusb -- is that even possible?
[22:13] <Melvin> ikonia relax. its not that now! :)
[22:14] <ikonia> Melvin: then take it to a private message, this is channel is for Ubuntu support/discussion
[22:14] <woot-0854> Mel armitage and gtfo w bt megasploit tracking stations.  learn and hide
[22:14] <ikonia> woot-0854: please stop such comments
[22:14] <woot-0854> aye
[22:15] <ikonia> thank you
[22:15] <votz> ikonia: http://www.fileconvoy.com/dfl.php?id=g5d70ebd3fdae82e91706524bc6d1a2b4eaa926. That is the output of 'apt-get source netcat-openbsd'.
[22:16] <chaingun> Melvin: What's up?
[22:16] <ikonia> votz: getting it
[22:16] <chaingun> I'm in #backtrack-linux now too in case people are getting aggrivated
[22:16] <ikonia> chaingun: thank you
[22:17] <Chartax> So, are there any circumstances under which a Wi-fi device wouldn't show in lspci or lsusb?
[22:17] <Melvin> chaingun one moment !
[22:17] <woot-0854> Any new Unity developments?
[22:18] <ikonia> votz: have you tried manually applying each patch in debian/patches ?
[22:18] <Melvin> chartax what is it?
[22:18] <woot-0854> Gnome3 and Grub2 are both more epic than I know how to use yet
[22:19] <votz> ikonia: No, I have not.
[22:19] <Chartax> Melvin: My Wi-fi adapter which was previously working fine has ceased doing so
[22:19] <woot-0854> Chartax: ifconfig wlan0 down && iwconfig wlan0 mode managed && ifconfig wlan0 up
[22:19] <ikonia> votz: which file did you say wasn't getting patched
[22:20] <votz> ikonia: I'm positive netcat.c isn't. Maybe others.
[22:20] <Melvin> ran ifconfig? turned the wireless on? Check the BIOS if wireless adapter is enabled or disabled.
[22:20] <ikonia> votz: it's not getting patched
[22:20] <Chartax>  I tried putting it down, then up, but didn't try changing it to managed mode. It's definitely enabled and works under Win 7.
[22:21] <Melvin> Chartax ran ifconfig? turned the wireless on? Check the BIOS if wireless adapter is enabled or disabled.
[22:21] <votz> ikonia: Ya. I don't know why. If you look in the .diff file there are entries to patch netcat.c, ++++ netcat-openbsd-1.89/netcat.c	2008-01-22 16:17:25.000000000 -0500, etc
[22:22] <Melvin> chartax tell me everything. Ehts the issue. and output for the commands u ran..
[22:22] <Chartax> Melvin: I just tried to change it to mode managed and got an operation not permitted error.
[22:23] <veryhappy> hi guys i have here a computer with several problems, that i'd like to solve if possible: 1st: always when i try to launch a program in the fullscreen mode like supertux or a wine application then i only get the border of the window and then it hangs, 2nd: my system sometimes seems to hang a little bit while it tries to launch an application or when i'm using it, it anyhow seems to run a...
[22:23] <veryhappy> ...little bit slow sometimes like anything slows it down, 3rd: i had a wine application installed, a car race "trackmania" but it launched only once, after that it didn't launch anymore i don't know why, perhaps this problem can also be cleared, that would be cool, and 4th: isn't really an issue, i'd just like to have this on my pc running as well: i'd like to know if it makes sense to use...
[22:23] <ikonia> votz: may have it - hang on
[22:23] <veryhappy> ...compiz fusion when i want to have  this fire effects and the water ripples, still haven't have this
[22:23] <veryhappy> thank you.
[22:23] <FloodBot1> veryhappy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:23] <Melvin> chartax on ubuntu right?
[22:23] <votz> ikonia: I'm not going anywhere.
[22:23] <Chartax> Yup.
[22:23] <woot-0853> sorry got dc'ed right after asking you a question Chartax
[22:23] <woot-0853> Chartax: what is iwconfig output?
[22:23] <Chartax> No problem woot-0853
[22:24] <woot-0853> Chartax: what mode?
[22:24] <woot-0853> sorry dont past outputs
[22:24] <woot-0853> paste
[22:24] <votz> ikonia: I think you might be on to something wrt debian/patches. A quick grep through debian/patches/ returns instances of 'netcat.c'.
[22:24] <Chartax> Woot: managed.
[22:24] <woot-0853> Chartax: is it working?
[22:24] <ikonia> votz: yes, that's where I'm looking too
[22:25] <Chartax> It tries to connect to a network I entered which previously worked, hangs for a bit, then requests authentication again
[22:25] <Chartax> It's wpa2-personal
[22:26] <pranith> I have horrible wifi download speeds. I am using a 802.11 g adapter. The wifi router is less than 10 ft away... help!
[22:26] <Melvin> chartax so you can FIND your adapter listed when u run  ifconfig huh!
[22:26] <ikonia> votz: look at Makefile.rej
[22:26] <woot-0853> Chartax: ok did you flip the switch to monitor,ad-hoc or master at all this session?
[22:26] <Chartax> No, not that I recall doing anything like that.
[22:27] <Chartax> Melvin: I see it in iwconfig but not ifconfig.
[22:27] <woot-0853> Chartax: ifconfig wlan0 up
[22:27] <reda> hay
[22:27] <votz> ikonia: I don't see it. I'm restarting from scratch to see if I can reproduce it.
[22:27] <woot-0853> sry hey reboot the pc if all eles fails
[22:28] <Chartax> woot- I put the WLAN back up, recreated the connection, same issue.
[22:28] <Chartax> Tries to connect for a bit then fails.
[22:28] <Chartax> Or, rather, requests auth,
[22:28] <Melvin> chartax ok. that means its getting switched off on a time interval as soon as it tries to connect.
[22:29] <Chartax> is that something I need to configure on the wireless AP?
[22:29] <votz> ikonia: I can't produce a Makefile.rej. How did you produce that file?
[22:29] <Melvin> chartax your wireless adapter is A ok!!! there's a glitch in the passphrases and connection.
[22:30] <ikonia> votz: if you run a patch against the dif the failed hunks are saved there
[22:30] <veryhappy> Due to this stupid flood bot who told me not to "flood" though i just wrote a long text *darn flood bot*, i give you a link with my text again.
[22:30] <veryhappy> http://pastebin.com/0fKzFkLg
[22:31] <votz> ikonia: How are you running the patches?
[22:31] <votz> in debian/patches/
[22:31] <Chartax> Melvin: how'd I resolve that? Do I need to change something on the wireless router?
[22:31] <Chartax> I could try taking it off wpa2 but I rather wouldn't
[22:31] <ikonia> from the source root -Np1 -i
[22:31] <Melvin> chartax whats ur make? the adapter.
[22:32] <Chartax> In the PC, I amnt completely positive since there's multiple conflicting sources. I think it's a Ralink
[22:32] <Fuzzles> in ubuntu 12.10 how do i find out in my graphics are install correctly?
[22:32] <Chartax> It won't show in lspci or lsusb though, which I find is odd
[22:33] <votz> ikonia: Does applying each of those patches in the source root solve the problem
[22:33] <pranith> I have horrible wifi download speeds. I am using a 802.11 g adapter. The wifi router is less than 10 ft away... help!
[22:33] <Melvin> chartax not showing in lspci as "network controller"?? hocome!
[22:33] <ikonia> votz: no, but it does show the failed hunks
[22:33] <ikonia> votz: "connect-timeout.patch" appears to be the problem one
[22:34] <Chartax> Melvin: I amnt sure, I see my Ethernet card but not the wireless.
[22:34] <escott> Fuzzles, software souces now has the functionality of jockey. but you can also look at glxinfo | grep -i renderer
[22:34] <Chartax> Pranith: Change your wifi broadcast channel
[22:34] <votz> ikonia: What loop did you use to apply the patches? Can you paste it here. I want to run exactly what you did.
[22:34] <Fuzzles> escott, jockey?
[22:34] <ikonia> votz: just applied them one at a time
[22:34] <ikonia> didn't look as I didn't have the correct order
[22:35] <ikonia> s/look/loop
[22:35] <sander_> Why does my desktop go into initramfs with the message ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid... does not exist.. WHen I push control-alt-tab on bootup, it works tho.
[22:35] <john1819> eagle1
[22:35] <Melvin> chartax try ifconfig wlan0 up
[22:36] <Chartax> Melvin: it was already up, trying to reconnect now though.
[22:36] <sander_> I've checked the uuid number with blkid, and its there.
[22:36] <Melvin> chartax ralink realtek.. what version>
[22:36] <ikonia> votz: try this
[22:36] <Fuzzles> escott, whats jockey?
[22:36] <escott> sander_, what does ctrl-alt-tab do? and when are you pressing it?
[22:36] <escott> Fuzzles, its something you dont have so don't worry about it
[22:37] <ikonia> move the connect-timeout.patch to the level above the source root - and do a patch -Np0 -i connect-timeout.patch
[22:37] <ikonia> votz: it then applies and patches the netcat.c patch
[22:37] <escott> Fuzzles, your answers are software-sources or glxinfo | grep -i renderer
[22:37] <sander_> escott, I just got told here earlier to press it.. not sure what it does really.. I'm pressing it right after the bios.
[22:37] <Chartax> Melvin: I think the model number is either RT3070 or RT5370, but I amnt positive
[22:37] <escott> sander_, after the bios but before grub?
[22:37] <Chartax> Hard
[22:37] <Chartax> Hard to tell without lspci or lsusb details
[22:38] <Fuzzles> escott, so how do i check that when i installed ubuntu 12.10 that my grpahics card is working auto
[22:38] <ikonia> votz: looks like that diff has a bug in it as a master patch
[22:38] <escott> sander_, i guess im wondering why ctrl-alt-tab and not ctrl-alt-6 or shift-tab or any other random combination of keys
[22:38] <ikonia> votz: the patches work one at a time
[22:38] <votz> ikonia: Applying them one at a time by hand yields hunk failed errors. Is there a way to determine the order in which I should apply these patches?
[22:38] <sander_> escott, the ubuntu screen is there.. with the timebar.
[22:38] <votz> Or just use -N as you did above.
[22:38] <escott> Fuzzles, open a terminal and type in "glxinfo | grep -i renderer"
[22:38] <escott> sander_, so at plymouth
[22:39] <sander_> escott, maybe it's tab+control. or tab+alt.. I don't remember.
[22:39] <ikonia> votz: normally the patches are numbered to give you an idea, eg: 01-patch-blah.patch, 02-patch-blah-blit.patch
[22:39] <ikonia> votz: looks like a sloppy build
[22:39] <Melvin> chartax /etc/init.d/network-manager restart
[22:39] <sander_> escott, I just pushed them all.. and I got back in, phew!.
[22:39] <sander_> escott, but I want to get rid of that when it boots.
[22:39] <votz> ikonia: Ah! The order is in the file debian/patches/series.
[22:40] <ikonia> votz: good spot
[22:40] <escott> sander_, i cant imagine what that key would be doing. there really isnt anything in the early boot that listens for keypresses. im guessing the act of pressing the key is causing just enough delay to avoid some kind of race condition in device enumeration... but it sounds odd. I would try one of the kernel rootwait argumenet
[22:40] <Chartax> Melvin: just tried that, same issue
[22:40] <votz> Going to start over from scratch and follow series' order. See if that works.
[22:41] <escott> sander_, so in /etc/default/grub on the CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT add "rootdelay=5"
[22:41] <ikonia> votz: should do, I've just been working through them one at a time
[22:41] <SunMoonStar> hi guys
[22:41] <Melvin> chartax if we assume your wireless adapter is switching off at times, try this sudo gedit /etc/rc.local
[22:41] <SunMoonStar> I'm getting an error when I do sudo apt-get update
[22:42] <jCuber> SunMoonStar: Have you added any software sources?
[22:42] <Melvin> chartax
[22:42] <Melvin> chartax sleep 10
[22:42] <SunMoonStar> jCuber: no
[22:42] <Melvin> chartax
[22:42] <SunMoonStar> jCuber: its weird, it gets a lot of files and then some 404s
[22:42] <Melvin> chartax and then enter iwconfig wlan0 power off
[22:42] <jCuber> SunMoonStar: is your PC
[22:43] <jCuber> SunMoonStar: Connected to the internet
[22:43] <SunMoonStar> yes im on here :)
[22:43] <Chartax> Did you want me to do the gedit thing first?
[22:43] <sander_> escott, correct?: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash rootdelay=5"
[22:43] <SolarisBoy> which ones are getting 404? can you reach the url in a browser?
[22:43] <veryhappy> nobody you can send me an answer related to my issues?
[22:43] <escott> sander_, sure. then sudo update-grub
[22:43] <john1819> hey can anyone recomend a good ch. to start back in friendly irc. its been 10 years of so.
[22:44] <sander_> escott, thanks, then i'll reboot and try it. :-)
[22:44] <SunMoonStar> jCuber: for some reason it cuts off some of the log in the terminal but shows this bit: http://pastebin.com/bTzwJ7Vp
[22:45] <Chartax> Marvin: I powered off wlan0 now.
[22:45] <tpumma> how come when using "less" cmd to view .php file, everything is one line? not easy to view. what's the best way to view .php from terminal?
[22:45] <Chartax> tpumma: why not nano?
[22:45] <kvothetech> tpumma: because you don't have any newlines probably
[22:45] <SolarisBoy> tpumma: are there new lines in the file or is it all on one line?
[22:45] <gordonjcp> tpumma: because your .php file hasn't got any line breaks
[22:45] <jCuber> veryhappy: What is the problem?
[22:45] <Melvin> chartax power it on and find the latest driver for your card!
[22:45] <sander_> escott, thanks. it worked :-)
[22:46] <SolarisBoy> smak the php dude up
[22:46] <yeehi> how unstable are the 13.04 daily builds at the moment - I really haven't been having success with them
[22:46] <gordonjcp> also, PHP is horrible
[22:46] <wyclif> tpumma: try using vi or vim
[22:46] <tpumma> Chartax: nano much better!
[22:46] <SolarisBoy> gordonjcp: word
[22:46] <tpumma> thanks
[22:46] <jCuber> SunMoonStar: Try going to those addresses on your browser
[22:46] <wyclif> gordonjcp: Actually, nope.
[22:46] <escott> sander_, given how tight your race condition is you could probably drop to rootdelay=1 if those 4 seconds are important to you
[22:46] <wyclif> gordonjcp: it really depends on who is writing it and what PHP
[22:46] <SolarisBoy> php sawks
[22:47] <SunMoonStar> wyclif: not found page comes up
[22:47] <SunMoonStar> wyclif: maybe it's a problem on ubuntu server end?
[22:47] <wyclif> gordonjcp: PHP 5.4 is a perfectly serviceable web language
[22:47] <Chartax> Melvin: I already tried the latest drivers, but I have many problems with them
[22:47]  * SolarisBoy laughing at that one
[22:47] <Chartax> It would seem that Ralink released new drivers today
[22:47] <SunMoonStar> like this one for example http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages
[22:47] <wyclif> gordonjcp: lots of improvements. Don't forget, you can write shit code in any language, my friend
[22:47] <SolarisBoy> php is broken
[22:47] <Chartax> The link is actually broken and points to a 0 byte file
[22:47] <sander_> escott, pretty quick now. :-)
[22:47] <ikonia> !language | wyclif
[22:47] <gordonjcp> wyclif: have you ever looked inside PHP?
[22:48] <SolarisBoy> its a hack
[22:48] <john1819> Sorry for the intrusion folks nite
[22:48] <tpumma> SolarisBoy: there are new lines in file but less or vim shows everything as one line.
[22:48] <SunMoonStar> are you guys able to get this page, or is it just me? http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages
[22:48] <escott> sander_, its just really strange.. you must have a race that is only a few microseconds... otherwise a keyboard interrupt isn't going to do anything useful
[22:48] <wyclif> http://www.phptherightway.com/
[22:48] <SolarisBoy> smh
[22:48] <SolarisBoy> there is no right php
[22:48] <ikonia> this is nothing to do with ubuntu
[22:48] <wyclif> gordonjcp: I've done a ton of work in PHP. Yes.
[22:48] <jCuber> john1819: What exactly do you mean by "ch"?
[22:49] <mrwhistler> Hi. how can I prevent a user from changing his/her password?
[22:49] <SolarisBoy> confusing business logic with ui meh
[22:49] <gordonjcp> wyclif: actually on the PHP code itself?
[22:49] <tpumma> wyclif: i'd rather use vim but everything is showing up as one line when viewing .php
[22:49] <sander_> escott, so you think I should just try for the curiosity of it.. to make it 1 second?
[22:49] <escott> mrwhistler, change it to something he doesn't know
[22:49] <Eighteens> what would cause ubuntu 10.04 to get a way slower test reading on transfer rates on both lan, and internet versus, a windows computer
[22:49] <wyclif> gordonjcp: YES.
[22:49] <gordonjcp> tpumma: it sounds like your .php file has no line breaks in it
[22:49] <gordonjcp> wyclif: awful, isn't it?
[22:49] <escott> mrwhistler, remove the passwd utility or mark it as non-suid
[22:49] <ikonia> Eighteens: a poor propritary network card driver on linux
[22:49] <Chartax> Eighteens: network drivers
[22:49] <SunMoonStar> Hi guys, my apt-get update wasn't able to fetch this url among others. Can you guys tell me if you are able to fetch it, or do you get a 404? http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages
[22:49] <mrwhistler> escott: and just allow automatic login?
[22:49] <bekks> gordonjcp: It's a oneliner :D
[22:49] <SolarisBoy> tpumma: you can print line breaks and such characters in vim to ensure but like they said
[22:49] <ikonia> or just set a password policy of -1
[22:49] <SolarisBoy> sounds like there are no line breaks
[22:49] <votz> ikonia: Ha! So close. netcat.c:957:55: error: expected ‘)’ before ‘DEBIAN_VERSION’. This is on Ubuntu, too. I think I can just remove that...
[22:50] <gordonjcp> tpumma: can you upload the offending file somewhere?
[22:50] <Eighteens> the computer windows gets 33mbps on speedtest, and the ubuntu computer gets 3.1mbs
[22:50] <ikonia> votz: looks like it
[22:50] <wyclif> I really don't care. The *NIX way is "the right tool for the job." PHP is the right tool for some jobs. So in my professional opinion, I don't pay any attention to the "PHP Sucks" n00b stuff.
[22:50] <InspectorCluseau> http://whohasthefastestcomputer.com/flopsmeter/
[22:50] <SolarisBoy> it does suck
[22:50] <muelli> I'd like to see that job...
[22:50] <SolarisBoy> lol
[22:50] <Melvin> chartax can u paste the output and let me know!
[22:50] <votz> ikonia: Boom. When I remove DEBIAN_VERSION it compiles on Ubuntu. Next - port to the other linux distro.
[22:50] <escott> sander_, if you are really curious you can start building your own kernels and bisect back to the change that caused this. depends on how much you care and how much your time is worth.... when you spend days trying to figure out what happens in a millisecond... that makes you a kernel developer i guess
[22:50] <votz> ikonia: Thank you so very much for your help, input, and time.
[22:50] <Chartax> Me
[22:50] <wyclif> http://www.phptherightway.com/
[22:50] <SolarisBoy> whats php doing that any other language can't do?
[22:50] <votz> I owe you a beer.
[22:51] <SolarisBoy> and on top of that hacking it's way about doing it..
[22:51] <ikonia> votz: nice job, you are more than welcome
[22:51] <Chartax> Melvin: sorry, I replied but it got lost in this swarm of text
[22:51] <ikonia> wyclif: you've already posted that- please stop, this channels isn't for the php argument
[22:51] <escott> mrwhistler, it seems a weird thing to be doing, and isn't entirely supported. why do you want to do this?
[22:51] <Melvin> chartax use pastebin or ubuntupastebin
[22:51] <Chartax> I tried to install the latest driver and ir didn't
[22:51] <gordonjcp> wyclif: yeah, so I'm kind of going on the whole "PHP sucks" n00b stuff based on my notes going back to php-fi
[22:51] <Chartax> Seem to work great
[22:51] <wyclif> ikonia: then stop arguing about PHP!
[22:51] <SunMoonStar> wyclif: can you try that url?
[22:51] <ikonia> wyclif: I'm not
[22:51] <mrwhistler> BC, I have a computer that will be used by lots of people all using a "guest" account of sorts
[22:52] <tpumma> gordonjcp: it has line breaks. nano can view all the line breaks but not vim or less
[22:52] <gordonjcp> wyclif: admittedly I've only been using PHP *seriously* since PHP2 was current
[22:52] <escott> mrwhistler, so what you SHOULD be doing is regenerating that account every time they logout
[22:52] <wyclif> see, here's the thing. I don't do programming language religion. You'll have to do that without me. But thanks for trying.
[22:52] <Melvin> chartax run the ifconfig, iwconfig and paste them in pastebin
[22:52] <gordonjcp> tpumma: then it may have Windows line breaks - do you see lots of "^M" in it?
[22:52] <veryhappy> jCuber: http://pastebin.com/0fKzFkLg
[22:52] <SunMoonStar> Melvin: can you try the URL?
[22:52] <SolarisBoy> tpumma: was the file created on a diff OS?
[22:52] <Chartax> One sec Melvin - gonna put it on eth0 so I can get net
[22:52] <escott> mrwhistler, otherwise one malicious user can leave a "userkit" behind to steal the next users passwords or files
[22:52] <sander_> escott, it's probably fixed in a newer version of ubuntu.
[22:53] <wyclif> SunMoonStar: yes. try it in gedit. or vi. or vim
[22:53] <sander_> i'm running 2.6.34
[22:53] <SunMoonStar> wyclif: huh?
[22:53] <mrwhistler> escott: how does one control that, is there some folder that i can put scripts in that are executed on logout?
[22:53] <SolarisBoy> yes
[22:53] <SunMoonStar> wyclif: here's my message from before: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages
[22:53] <SunMoonStar> er
[22:53] <SunMoonStar> Hi guys, my apt-get update wasn't able to fetch this url among others. Can you guys tell me if you are able to fetch it, or do you get a 404? http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages
[22:53] <escott> mrwhistler, various ways... if the machine is sitting out in the open (ie no physical control) you need to configure a pxe boot, and just set the thing up to reboot on logout
[22:54] <mrwhistler> escott:without sudo how would they install such a user kit?
[22:54] <somsip> SunMoonStar: 404 here
[22:54] <Orange_> Hi guys; Im trying to install ubuntu 12.04 64 bit from a live usb stick, but when I try to boot I get the message "kernel panic not syncing out of memory and no killable process" and a call trace. Im confident that the usb stick is ok, as the installer run when i put the stick on a windows machine and I had live booted with it before. Not sure if it is worth to mention, but I had a failed win 7 installation just before trying the liv
[22:54] <wyclif> SunMoonStar: 404 Error
[22:54] <SunMoonStar> somsip: if you do a sudo apt-get update do you get errors?
[22:54] <mrwhistler> escott: it will be a VM on a windows box
[22:54] <SunMoonStar> wyclif: thanks
[22:54] <somsip> SunMoonStar: I probably don't use the source that you do
[22:54] <escott> mrwhistler, b/c with physical access they can get root and leave rootkits behind. otherwise I could just install a firefox plugin to the user profile and have that plugin send me their passwords
[22:54] <Melvin> Chartax also hit "lshw -class network"
[22:55] <SunMoonStar> somsip: maybe i have a problem with my source? how can i check?
[22:55] <Jordan_U> Orange_: Can you try running memtest?
[22:55] <escott> mrwhistler, then that is very easy. configure the VM server to clone the image before starting it, and then destroy the image on shutdown
[22:55] <somsip> SunMoonStar: SunMoonStar http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[22:55] <mrwhistler> escott: wonder if that is possible on vmware player
[22:56] <tpumma> gordonjcp: i see "^M". lots of it
[22:56] <Orange_> Jordan_U: Im starting one now from the bios
[22:56] <escott> mrwhistler, i dont know. keep in mind if they have physical access to the machine then they have control (no matter what OS is running)
[22:56] <dr_willis> dont some of the VM's have some 'copy on write' feautre where any changes get saved to a file. so you remove that file and the vm is back to original>
[22:57] <tpumma> SolarisBoy: .php was from windows and linux both
[22:57] <jCuber> veryhappy: 1.Probably just a problem with Wine. 2. I think all computers have a little lag. Make sure you've installed your GPU drivers
[22:57] <escott> mrwhistler, so im not sure how windows is secured here, but if you could secure against access to the host OS and just need to secure the VM image you can do lots of stuff. store a pristine copy remotely and swap it out between sessions
[22:57] <gordonjcp> tpumma: okay, then you have DOS-like line endings
[22:57] <Orange_> Jordan_U: though it is worth to say that the pc was in use before I attempted to reinstall the OSs and I did not notice any memory problem
[22:57] <mrwhistler> escott: i think that is the tree to bark up
[22:57] <Orange_> Jordan_U: the bios memory test pass
[22:57] <SolarisBoy> can open vim and try :set list
[22:57] <mrwhistler> thanks
[22:58] <SolarisBoy> it will show all the characters in the file including \n \r etc
[22:58] <escott> mrwhistler, enterprise vms certainly have what dr_willis is talking about (COW and all) but probably not vmware player. vmware player probably just supports a full clone when the guest is off
[22:59] <mrwhistler> its possible i can deploy workstation
[22:59] <gordonjcp> tpumma: open the file in vi/vim and try something like ":%s/<CTRL-V><CTRL-M>//g
[22:59] <sianhulo> hey guys, I was wondering if there's a way to manage how much ram goes to my intel g41(itnegrated gpu?
[22:59] <gordonjcp> tpumma: without the leading quote
[22:59] <escott> mrwhistler, "deploy" sounds like what you want
[22:59] <escott> sianhulo, i dont think so
[22:59] <jCuber> veryhappy: 3. Once again, probably a problem with Wine. Check out the WineHQ if anybody has similar issurs or solutions
[22:59] <gordonjcp> tpumma: when you type "<CTRL-V><CTRL-M>" it should show up as "^M" and highlighted
[22:59] <SunMoonStar> anyone here running 12.10?
[22:59] <Chartax> Melvin: you still here?
[22:59] <Melvin> chartax yeah
[23:00] <gordonjcp> !anyone | SunMoonStar
[23:00] <Chartax> Sorry about the delay: had to move my extremely heavy PC :p
[23:00] <Melvin> chartax the outputs!!
[23:00] <mrwhistler> escott: hell yea
[23:00] <sianhulo> escott, then... is there a way to know how much is reciving right now?
[23:00] <Melvin> Chartax No problemo!!
[23:00] <escott> sianhulo, check dmesg to see how the dma ranges are setup
[23:00] <SunMoonStar> Does anyone here run 12.10 and have problems with sudo apt-get update right this moment
[23:01] <Melvin> sunmoonstar what problems?
[23:01] <jCuber> veryhappy: 4. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/fire-and-water-effect-in-compiz-fusion-599364/
[23:01] <sianhulo> SunMoonStar, I have no problems at all, a workaround might be isntall aptitude
[23:01] <SunMoonStar> failed to fetch files problems
[23:01] <gordonjcp> SunMoonStar: you may have local connection problems
[23:01] <SunMoonStar> I don't as I'm on here on the problem computer
[23:02] <softcoder> ok not sure if its an ubuntu issue (unity) or grpahics driver or something else but...
[23:02] <softcoder> i'm on 12.10 64 bit, nvidia card using properitary drivers
[23:02] <Melvin> sunmoonstar reinstall software center and see.
[23:02] <softcoder> ONLY since upgrading from 12.04 my twinview randomly gets hosed (every day and its driving me nuts)
[23:02] <sianhulo> escott, i ran dmesg |grep -i agp and it seems it has 256m
[23:02] <Chartax_> Marvin: On the PC with the issue now.
[23:03] <softcoder> hosed == resolution and monitor placement suddenly change and my windows go all over the place
[23:03] <tpumma> gordonjcp: it says pattern not found. I'll check back later to see how to get around the dos line break
[23:03] <Chartax_> Here's the ifconfig: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361451/
[23:03] <Orange_> Jordan_U: any idea of what could be the problem? Im running a hard disk test now
[23:03] <softcoder> i tried updating to latest stable nvidia drivers and same issue
[23:03] <softcoder> never had this problem is previous version of ubu (been using since 8.x)
[23:04] <Chartax_> Here's iwconfig: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361453/
[23:04] <gordonjcp> tpumma: there's a program called something like dos2unix
[23:04] <softcoder> any help or ideas is appreciated
[23:04] <Melvin> sunmoonstar try this ---find /etc/apt -name '*.list' -exec bash -c 'echo -e "\n$1\n"; cat -n "$1"' _ '{}' \;---
[23:04] <gordonjcp> tpumma: did you type the ^M as Control-V followed by Control-M like I said?
[23:04] <SunMoonStar> Melvin: problem:
[23:04] <SunMoonStar> http://pastebin.com/nGshSa7z
[23:04] <ikonia> Melvin: where are you getting this stuff from ?
[23:06] <gapert> via pastebin.com kom ik ook zonder probreblemen op piratebay
[23:06] <veryhappy> jCuber: i read your answers, but then i can't understand that i get only a border when i try to launch supertux in fullscreen mode or a higer resolution, as this is not a wine program, but a native program
[23:06] <Orange_> does anyone else has any hint why I get the message "kernel panic not syncing out of memory and no killable process" and a call trace when trying to boot from 12.04 64 bit live disk. Im confident that the usb stick is ok, as the installer run when i put the stick on a windows machine and I had live booted with it before. Not sure if it is worth to mention, but I had a failed win 7 installation just before trying the live cd
[23:06] <SunMoonStar> if anyone can help with that or even a cheap shot the help would be appreciated
[23:07] <ikonia> SunMoonStar: your file system is mounted read only
[23:07] <ikonia> SunMoonStar: it's that simple
[23:07] <SunMoonStar> ikonia: it's maybe simple to you.. :) how do I fix it..?
[23:07] <escott> Orange_, probably a buggy hardware device requesting an enormouse DMA range. or something with the system where it can't find the ram
[23:07] <tpumma> gordonjcp: yeah ^M like u said went away but no line breaks can is displayed. still all in one line.
[23:08] <ikonia> SunMoonStar: either a.) reboot - look for a message to see if it mounts read only b.) try to force a remount with read/write permissions
[23:08] <Melvin> sunmoonstar the issue could be in the sources.list file.. A wrong entry i believe. you got to remove one term vch says "independent", from the list.
[23:08] <daveinlv> I recently did a clean install of 12.04 64bit and have an issue with Audacious. It will not play any shoutcast music streams, but does play MP3 files on the machine. I've installed all of the codecs from medibuntu, and a package from the webupd8 ppa entitled "audacious-plugins". Rhythmbox on the same machine plays every shoutcast mp3 stream I've thrown at it, but I really don't care to use that for listening to streams. I know Ubuntu
[23:08] <daveinlv> is missing a lot of codecs because of patents, but I thought the medibuntu cache fixed those issues.. Help?
[23:08] <softcoder> anyone hear me or able to help?
[23:08] <veryhappy> SunMoonStar: your system seems to be mounted only in read-only mode, check that with the mount command, type mound , if you see a "ro" behind / then it's mounted only read-only
[23:08] <Orange_> escott, any idea of a work around for it?
[23:08] <ikonia> SunMoonStar: poeple can here you
[23:08] <ikonia> oops
[23:08] <ikonia> softcoder: people can hear you
[23:09] <jrib> softcoder: please just ask your question on a single line.  Yes, we can read what you say.  If someone can help, they will reply to you
[23:09] <escott> Orange_, pull hardware and see if it gets better? try a different kernel. look through the rest of the kernel output in case there is anything useful in it. im assuming this is happening before init starts
[23:09] <gordonjcp> tpumma: well, that's your problem right enough; you need to convert the ^Ms to proper line breaks
[23:09] <SunMoonStar> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/WhHUur5w
[23:09] <Chartax_> daveinlv, have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[23:09] <gordonjcp> tpumma: look at DOS to Unix conversion
[23:09] <daveinlv> I think so.. will check..
[23:09] <ikonia> SunMoonStar: /dev/sda4 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[23:10] <ikonia> SunMoonStar: your / file system (that holds /var has errors so has gone into read only
[23:10] <tpumma> gordonjcp: ok. i'll try to install dos2unix and run it on .php so i can view it right in vim
[23:10] <Orange_> escott, it is before the start. it is a laptop, so i guess I cant remove any hardware, but Ill try with 12.04 32 bit
[23:10] <tpumma> exit
[23:10] <SunMoonStar> ikonia: Can you give me explicit instructions? Should I just restart first?
[23:11] <blackshirt> hello,good morning
[23:11] <ikonia> SunMoonStar: if you reboot it will probably try to run an fsck and fix it
[23:11] <escott> Orange_, what is this laptop? anything particularly strange with it? or do you not know what hardware it has
[23:11] <SunMoonStar> ikonia ok I will go restart, thank you
[23:11] <blackshirt> i'm using vbox to setup server, what the best networking mode for them ??
[23:11] <daveinlv> chartax_  According to synaptic, I have..
[23:12] <Chartax_> daveinlv, the fact that RhythmBox can handle them, but Audacious can't suggests it's an issue with Audacious, rather than the codec
[23:12] <Orange_> escott, it is a hp pavilion dm 3. I was running ubuntu 10 before and it was ok. Now with the 12.04 32 bit live usb it is booting
[23:12] <Chartax_> I could be wrong, though
[23:12] <daveinlv> ok.. will check over there... ty!!
[23:13] <daveinlv> They all use the same mp3 codecs then I gather?
[23:13] <blackshirt> i'm using vbox to setup server, what the best networking mode for them ??
[23:13] <Orange_> escott, Ill try to proceed with the install
[23:14] <Chartax_> daveinlv, I believe so, but like I said, I could be completely wrong.
[23:15] <Melvin> chartax any luck?
[23:15] <KI4RO> .
[23:15] <daveinlv> I''ll try completely removing it and reinstalling.. havent tried that yet..
[23:15] <Chartax_> Melvin, I found the actual model of my card.
[23:15] <daveinlv> thanks, Chartax_
[23:15] <beandog> daveinlv: there's a couple of mp3 codecs you can use for playback
[23:15] <Melvin> chartax killer!
[23:15] <Chartax_> It's an RT2800
[23:15] <daveinlv> beandog: Oh?
[23:16] <beandog> daveinlv: there's lavc, lame, and ... I can't remember the other off the top of my head
[23:16] <remsSs> bonjour
[23:16] <Melvin> chartax so u are able to connect to the wifi,but it holds only for 1 15sec interval huh??
[23:16] <beandog> daveinlv: what are you trying to do?
[23:16] <Chartax_> Melvin, it seems to try and authenticate, but fails without an error. Just returns to the authentication prompt.
[23:17] <daveinlv> beandog: what has me baffled is the fact that audacious plays local mp3 files just fine.. just won't play a standard http://server:port shoutcast url
[23:17] <beandog> daveinlv: oh okay, well it could be another codec from shoutcast
[23:17] <daveinlv> beandog: Oh? different from the decoder for local mp3 files?
[23:18] <WeThePeople> i burned 12.10 to dvd and it wont boot to 12.10 it just boots to grub menu, idk why??
[23:18] <beandog> daveinlv: no, I mean the shoutcast playlist may not be serving MP3
[23:18] <uabn93> does anyone know if deja-dup backs up hidden files. The program gives no option to see what was backed.
[23:18] <dr_willis> WeThePeople:  you mean the cd boots to some grub: prompt? or what exactly? i dont think the dvd uses grub.
[23:19] <daveinlv> beandog.. I sure HOPE it is, as I run the shoutcast station that I'm trying to listen to.. in testing I tried others and they don't work either
[23:19] <Melvin> chartax its probably getting switched off! :/
[23:19] <beandog> daveinlv: wanna pm me the url?
[23:19] <WeThePeople> dr_willis, i burned 12.10 to dvd a iso.. when i put dvd into bay and change the boot order, the computer doesnt boot to 12.10 it goes to my main grub menu
[23:20] <Chartax_> Melvin: I'm going to try switching from WPA2 to something like WEP temporarily
[23:20] <dr_willis> WeThePeople:  how did you burn it to dvd? what files do you see on the dvd?
[23:20] <Melvin> chartax do that until then.
[23:22] <Chartax_> Melvin: It doesn't prompt me for authentication now, it just continuously tries to connect with no success
[23:23] <Chartax_> Disregard: It just requested authentication again, after about 60 sec. of trying to connect
[23:23] <Melvin> chartax disable IPv6.
[23:23] <WeThePeople>  dr_willis, i will show you>>> http://imgh.us/desktop_2.png && http://imgh.us/desktop2_1.png
[23:23] <Melvin> chartax try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/127243/cant-stay-connected-to-wi-fi
[23:24] <dr_willis> WeThePeople:  you could have just said it has a single big iso file on it.. ;)  You burnt it wrong..
[23:24] <WeThePeople> dr_willis, i did ??
[23:24] <dr_willis> WeThePeople:  you need to burn it as an image, not a data file like you would do a bunch of jpegs ;)
[23:24] <WeThePeople> ahh
[23:24] <WeThePeople> ok
[23:24] <WeThePeople> thanks
[23:26] <Steevca> Can anyone help me install this theme ?  http://jurialmunkey.deviantart.com/art/Divergence-IV-quot-A-New-Hope-quot-183377193
[23:27] <ikonia> Steevca: the instructions are on the page
[23:27] <Steevca> Yes,but i can't install it. There is no install option in Apperance.
[23:28] <ikonia> Steevca: because it's meant for an older gnome version
[23:28] <ikonia> Steevca: "gnome gtk2"
[23:28] <Melvin> steevca the instructions are clearly sort on that very page!!
[23:29] <uabn93> does deja-dup back up hidden files?
[23:29] <Steevca> Ah,damn it,i missed that is for gtk2.
[23:29] <uabn93> the program hides a lot from you
[23:30] <Melvin> uabn93 YES!
[23:30] <escott> uabn93, there are other ways to backup... if you want help with some of those just ask
[23:31] <escott> uabn93, but i reached much the same conclusion about deja-dup and decided that wasn't the backup tool for me
[23:31] <uabn93> escott: what do you mean other ways? do you suggest another program?
[23:31] <escott> uabn93, i use rsync
[23:31] <escott> !backup | uabn93
[23:31] <Melvin> uabn93 it does back up by default. if u want to view those files, u can however enabk\le them!
[23:33] <Melvin> ikonia still wanna help?
[23:33] <ikonia> Melvin: help with what ?
[23:33] <seeqwell> What keeps shutting off my monitor and hard drive please.  I snapped this yesterday http://pastebin.com/pDx5xiGX
[23:33] <Melvin> ikonia thats just one linux configuration dude! S.O.S.
[23:33] <ikonia> Melvin: take it to #backtrack-linux
[23:34] <Melvin> ikonia i'm unable to create an account. so please cooperate!
[23:34] <escott> seeqwell, that doesn't seem helpful. the 81 on the 5th line means 81 seconds after boot. did the system reboot 81 seconds after boot?
[23:34] <uabn93> escott: i really only used deja because it supports incremental backups WITH compression
[23:34] <ikonia> Melvin: no
[23:34] <ikonia> Melvin: you ARE able to make an account, you re chosing not to
[23:35] <escott> uabn93, you can do the same with rsync but without the nasty tarballs
[23:35] <Melvin> ikonia I aint kidding. i''m unable to. assist me in creating one!
[23:35] <seeqwell> seems like when it crashed it deletes my log escott .  I lost that code you told me about to save logs before I hard shut down
[23:35] <escott> !reisub | seeqwell
[23:35] <ikonia> Melvin: ask in #freenode as you've been told in multiple channels
[23:35] <ikonia> Melvin: you're inability to follow instructions it's what's letting you down
[23:36] <escott> seeqwell, and its not deleting your logs... its never saving your logs
[23:36] <uabn93> escott: cool. ill check out grsync because i dont feel comfortable with the cli version yet
[23:36] <escott> uabn93, and unless you have lots of big text files im not sure what compression gets you. might be better to put it all on a filesystem that does compression
[23:37] <Melvin> ikonia if inability is the reason for someone to wander, run up close to them before they die by their thirst of seeking help.
[23:37] <seeqwell> ubuntu is junk.  I should go for Fedora core but I hate rpm.
[23:38] <ikonia> Melvin: please don't talk nonsense, people have helped you and pointed you at the right channels, follow the advice
[23:38] <holstein> seeqwell: the ubuntu community is great... if you like ubuntu or not
[23:38] <seeqwell> Right holstein
[23:38] <unrar> Hi
[23:38] <steven-> Hello
[23:39] <uabn93> escott: I see. All i have related to that are books but thats pdf not txt
[23:40] <escott> uabn93, i dont know what kind of compression ratios you will get with pdfs but its not going to be earth-shattering
[23:41] <uabn93> escott: okay. so it wouldnt do much for music and video files either?
[23:41] <Chartax> Melvin: I am just going to do a clean install. Managed to screw up my video card somehow :V
[23:41] <escott> uabn93, no
[23:42] <Chartax> Thank you very much for your help however.
[23:42] <escott> uabn93, unless you are storing your music as wav files :)
[23:42] <Melvin> chartax I'm sorry about it!
[23:42] <Chartax> Melvin: no worries, thank you so much for your time though, it is much appreciated.
[23:43] <Melvin> chartax can i see u in ubuntuforums now?? for a moment?
[23:43] <uabn93> escott: heh. I use flac but thats already compressed. i think i need to read up on compression
[23:43] <Chartax> I've never posted there yet - not even sure I have an account there, I
[23:43] <Chartax> I am literally a new Ubuntu user
[23:44] <Melvin> join in by typing "/j #ubuntuforums"
[23:44] <escott> uabn93, long and short is only the first compression is likely to be helpful... unless the first compression is very poor a subsequent compression wont do much
[23:44] <Chartax> Oh, an IRC channel, haha, sure. Sorry :p
[23:46] <uabn93> !sbackup
[23:47] <uabn93> escott: i appreciate your help
[23:51] <TomyLobo> nvidia-settings says i'm not using an nvidia driver. sudo nvidia-xconfig creates an xorg.conf that sets my X into 640x480. already tried getting the driver from nvidia.com
[23:51] <ikonia> bad call
[23:51] <TomyLobo> hmm?
[23:52] <TomyLobo> ikonia was that to me? if yes, what do you mean?
[23:52] <ikonia> trying to get the drivers from nvidia.com is a bad idea
[23:53] <TomyLobo> well the ones coming with ubuntu didnt work, so what else would i doß
[23:53] <TomyLobo> ?
[23:53] <ikonia> define didn't work
[23:53] <TomyLobo> nvidia-settings says i'm not using an nvidia driver. sudo nvidia-xconfig creates an xorg.conf that sets my X into 640x480.
[23:53] <TomyLobo> ^ = didn't work
[23:53] <ikonia> yes, that means "not using" not "didn't work"
[23:54] <ikonia> so you need to look at why they are not in use
[23:54] <ikonia> have you tried to install from nvidia.com ?
[23:54] <TomyLobo> yes
[23:54] <ikonia> then I won't help
[23:54] <TomyLobo> it made backups, so i guess i could uninstall it
[23:54] <ikonia> you can't uninstall it
[23:54] <bkc_> sure you can...
[23:54] <nicekiwi> can you force fullscreen apps to run in windowed mode with commandline params?
[23:54] <ikonia> you need to manually remove every object
[23:54] <TomyLobo> then reinstall the nvidia packages from ubuntu for good measure
[23:54] <ikonia> hence "bad idea"
[23:55] <ikonia> TomyLobo: it won't overwrite everything,
[23:55] <bkc_> ikonia: done it a million times...
[23:55] <ikonia> bkc_: great, walk TomyLobo through it
[23:56] <LordThumper> Hi
[23:56] <dandaman> herro
[23:56] <bkc_> TomyLobo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual :)
[23:56] <LordThumper> I have a weird issue when Ubuntu will only boot if there is a USB drive present
[23:56] <LordThumper> Any drive will do
[23:56] <LordThumper> What could be the issue?
[23:56] <bkc_> TomyLobo: and this for uninstallation https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual#Uninstalling_the_Driver
[23:56] <Jordan_U> LordThumper: What happens when you try to boot without a USB drive plugged in?
[23:57] <zvacet> LordThumper: did you install from usb
[23:57] <Jayflux> i have a core 2 duo T5500 laptop about to install ubuntu with 1GB ram. Will there be any difference between 64bit or 32?
[23:57] <delinquentme> so I'm trying to do something like this: $ ls db/migrate/*even*more* | gedit
[23:58] <TomyLobo> bkc_ that went through without a hitch, apart from some manual directory
[23:58] <delinquentme> in which a file is returned ... and I'd like to pipe that filename to have gedit open it..
[23:58] <Xabster> Hi, I'd like to simulate that I have a webcam plugged in and that it's currently receving a stream on my ubuntu 12.04 (because I dont have a webcam and I'm trying to develop some stuff) - is this possible ?
[23:58] <zvacet> Jayflux: i don´t think so but I can be wrong
[23:58] <ikonia> Xabster: no
[23:58] <zvacet> Jayflux: install 32 bit
[23:58] <Melvin> jayflux what is it/
[23:59] <Jayflux> ok zvacet cheers
[23:59] <escott> Jayflux, 64bit is a different instruction set and has more registers which is nice. there is a bit more memory overhead.... what would probably be best for you is the x32 ABI but thats only now in development
[23:59] <bkc_> Xabster: yes :)
[23:59] <Jordan_U> delinquentme: for file in db/migrate/*whatever*; do gedit "$file"; done
[23:59] <bkc_> ikonia: do you have any idea what you're talking about? ever? :)
[23:59] <Xabster> Xabster: maybe
[23:59] <Jayflux> escott its only going to be for web browsing mainly. So nothing strenuous
[23:59] <LordThumper> Jodan_U: I get a black screen with only the text "OK" visible on the right hand side
[23:59] <ikonia> bkc_: please, how do you simulate web cam hardware with proper even handling ?