[05:35] <holstein> zequence: last time i tried it, it worked fine
[05:35] <holstein> i put wubi.exe in the same directory as the ubuntustudio iso
[05:36] <holstein> if its not something we need to do anything to get working, im for it.. lets try and talk soon and seek out whomever we need to ask
[09:38] <smartboyhw> zequence, I knew how to get ubiquity to wubi now
[09:40] <smartboyhw> Phew finally we got a daily build to test:P
[09:56]  * smartboyhw expects 3.8.5-lowlatency to test:P
[09:56] <smartboyhw> I mean when Ubuntu Studio comes to RC stage
[10:10] <zequence> smartboyhw: You are free to suggest anything on wubi. There's a workitem about it in the blueprints
[10:10] <zequence> [ubuntustudio-dev] Decide whether wubi.exe also should support installing Ubuntu Studio (bug #1070682): TODO
[10:10] <smartboyhw> zequence, I will do that workitem. I actually have the code:P
[10:11] <zequence> smartboyhw: Suggest to implement it on the mail list
[10:11] <smartboyhw> zequence, OK
[10:11] <zequence> I think some people might have opinions about it
[10:11] <zequence> smartboyhw: And if they accept, you are free to do the change
[10:11] <smartboyhw> zequence, gee OK
[10:14] <smartboyhw> zequence, did
[10:29] <zequence> smartboyhw: I personally don't feel we need to vote on things. The important thing is to highlight a possible change, especially if you suspect there are people with opposing opinions about something.
[10:30] <zequence> This way, you find out what the good and bad sides are
[10:30] <smartboyhw> zequence, yeah you write that down:D
[10:30] <zequence> smartboyhw: Just for future reference. I know len suggested a "vote". But, IMO, it's the discussion itself that is the interesting part
[10:31] <smartboyhw> zequence, ah ok
[10:31] <zequence> Ultimately it's up to the leadership to decide, which in our case is Scott more or less
[10:31] <smartboyhw> zequence, yeah
[10:32] <zequence> I try to think in terms that if something is possible, and it doesn't destroy or regress anything, it should be implemented if someone wants it, and wants to implement it
[10:32] <zequence> I think this is a general way of thinking in open source projects
[10:32] <smartboyhw> zequence, :D
[10:33] <smartboyhw> zequence, going for reboot now bye
[10:39] <astraljava> zequence: Voting isn't possibly needed, but from PR-POV, it'd be great if those who wanted it there, were also willing to support it. Otherwise there's the chance that people try it on Wubi, don't get things working properly, ask for help, but there's no one supporting that. They are all the more unlikely to try it on real HW afterwards.
[10:40] <knome> hey astraljava :)
[10:40] <astraljava> o/
[10:40] <astraljava> How was gaming night?
[10:40] <smartboyhw> astraljava, :D
[10:40] <knome> astraljava, quietish, there was three of us. but the game we played turned out to play really well with 3, and we all enjoyed it
[10:40] <astraljava> Good to hear.
[10:41] <knome> what's your schedule on sunday?
[10:41] <knome> we're probably playing again then
[10:41] <astraljava> That might actually work.
[10:41] <knome> good :)
[10:41] <astraljava> Depends on how tired I am.
[10:41] <knome> yeah
[10:42] <knome> we had one guy not show up yesterday either for the same reason
[10:42] <astraljava> This morning, I woke up at 4 am. to squash some bugs for a colleague who went on a customer visit.
[10:42] <knome> eugh
[10:42] <astraljava> Of course it wouldn't have been so bad if I went to bed prior to 1 am...
[10:42] <knome> i went to bed at 4.30 and read a book for half an hour
[10:43] <astraljava> Sleep hasn't really been an option lately, sadly.
[10:43] <astraljava> Heh.
[10:43] <astraljava> You shouldn't have slept at all. :)
[10:43] <knome> well, i should have
[10:44] <knome> and i'm glad i did...
[10:48] <smartboyhw> knome, astraljava do always get some sleep
[10:48] <astraljava> Yeah. I sometimes even notice a difference in how messed up I am, depending on the hours spent on sleeping.
[10:49]  * smartboyhw thought they were on #xubuntu-offtopic when he realized it is actually #ubuntustudio-dev 
[10:49] <astraljava> But considering how intolerable I am even after 7 hours... Others probably won't.
[10:49]  * smartboyhw goes and sets a #ubuntustudio-offtopic :P
[10:49] <astraljava> Nah, we already have one landfill channel. And yes we can move.
[10:49]  * astraljava didn't realize either.
[10:50] <smartboyhw> Eh That channel's actually registered by joejaxx hmm
[10:53] <astraljava> Joe's probably not even on this network anymore. :)
[10:54] <smartboyhw> astraljava, yeah. Then what should I do?
[11:02] <astraljava> I have no idea, other than turn to IRCC.
[11:02]  * smartboyhw goes to find the IRCC now
[11:32] <zequence> smartboyhw: I think you can just go ahead and enable Wubi
[11:32] <smartboyhw> zequence, OK 
[11:32] <zequence> smartboyhw: Let me know if you need to get something merged
[11:33] <smartboyhw> zequence, you don't have the permission to merge it I think, the installer team has
[11:33] <zequence> I'm thinking we should have some sort of procedure for enabling new features. We enable them. Test them. Evaluate. Then decide if to keep them or not
[11:34] <zequence> smartboyhw: I see. It's against Ubuntu source then. Well, let us know if you need help getting that sorted out. Also, do we have wubi on our ISO?
[11:34] <smartboyhw> zequence, um yes we have the wubi APP on our ISO but we don't have the option "Ubuntu Studio" I think
[11:35] <zequence> ok, good
[11:54] <smartboyhw> zequence, PING can you add lupin-support to our seeds? It is needed to get wubi to install Ubuntu studio
[11:54] <zequence> smartboyhw: Ok. Will do
[12:00] <zequence> smartboyhw: Done
[12:00] <smartboyhw> zequence, thx
[14:17] <len-dt> zequence, smartboyhw I have nothing against wubi, just no way of testing it. So no complaints.
[14:29] <zequence> I don't have a way to test it either
[14:29] <zequence> smartboyhw: Do you have Windows at home?
[14:50] <smartboyhw> len-dt, zequence 1. yes but I don't use it and 2. I need to get that fix in...
[14:50] <smartboyhw> BTW hi scott-work 
[14:50] <scott-work> can we contact those people who requested wubi/ubuntu studio to help test this?
[14:50] <scott-work> hi ms
[14:50] <scott-work> hi smartboyhw 
[14:51] <smartboyhw> scott-work, I haven't got the code merged 
[14:51] <scott-work> that
[14:51] <smartboyhw> scott-work, wait for a while please:D
[14:51] <zequence> There are a couple of launchpad questions about this, as well as the bug report, so at least 3 people
[14:51] <scott-work> that is fine, but i think the onus should be on those to want this feature to help out, we could start asking them now _before_ the effort is made to accomodate their request
[14:52] <scott-work> ^^^ that was in response to smartboyhw 
[14:55] <smartboyhw> scott-work, yes they should
[15:13] <smartboyhw> scott-work, estimated merge into ubiquity: tomorrow (cjwatson's off call today:P)
[15:29] <zequence> btw, the videos of me in UDS seems to have come out.
[15:29] <zequence> Interview http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi8m4ytDmVw&list=UUWUDCz-Q0m4qK7lkK4CevQA&index=6&feature=plcp
[15:29] <zequence> plenary http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUWUDCz-Q0m4qK7lkK4CevQA&feature=player_detailpage&v=PPQ7k0jRUE4#t=560s
[15:30] <smartboyhw> zequence, oh!
[15:30] <zequence> Pretty boring shit, and I hope at least I'm doing an ok job speaking for Ubuntu Studio
[15:30] <smartboyhw> zequence, :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
[15:31]  * smartboyhw liked that video
[15:32] <zequence> I seem to be losing some hair. Not very flattering standing in the pose I do with a spotlight on my head
[15:33] <smartboyhw> zequence, LOL
[15:33] <zequence> It's not an angle one is used to seeing oneself :P. And it must be some kind of virus going around, cause I see this happening to a lot of my friends too :(
[15:33] <smartboyhw> God there is even 720p hd in your video
[15:33] <smartboyhw> zequence, I am getting white hair now even (true though I'm 14)
[15:35] <zequence> smartboyhw: I hope that is not the result of you worrying too much. 
[15:35] <smartboyhw> zequence, pressure....learning. Hong kong kids had VERY VERY hard time learning
[15:37] <zequence> smartboyhw: Yea. That is something I hope will change. It's important to learn, but it's also important to learn to be creative. And most importantly, I think, is to get some exercise
[15:38] <smartboyhw> zequence, we have hard time playing sports and music. You don't understand 
[15:39] <zequence> smartboyhw: Playing music doesn't mean you are learning to be creative
[15:39] <smartboyhw> bye all
[23:54] <Len-nb> zequence, it looks like the linux-lowlatency-pae package needs to be updated to point at linux-image-lowlatency-pae (=> 3.2.0.33)  instead of linux-image-lowlatency-pae (=> 3.2.0.33.21)
[23:55] <Len-nb> That would be why the ISO build failed and why people can't upgrade 12.04 to the new kernel.
[23:56] <Len-nb> This makes more sense than my message on the list  :P