[05:45] <IndigentToad_> Howdy
[05:47] <IndigentToad_> Does anyone have experience with the Lexicon USB interfaces?
[06:05] <IndigentToad_> Anyone alive tonight?
[06:11] <len-dt> IndigentToad_,  I don't know except what I can google.
[06:11] <IndigentToad_> len-dt - are you refering to Lexicon or your existance? LOL
[06:12] <len-dt> The lex
[06:12] <len-dt> lexicon has been around much longer than computer audio...
[06:13] <len-dt> Which one do you have?
[06:14] <IndigentToad_> Just the Alpha. Run the main outs of my mixer into it.
[06:14] <IndigentToad_> SHould have gotten the Lambda so I could use the sub outs
[06:16] <len-dt> Sure doesn't say much on the manufacture's page
[06:16] <IndigentToad_> No. Fortunately Jack instantly recognized it.
[06:17] <IndigentToad_> But I'm curious if anyone has tweaked the settings and what results
[06:17] <len-dt> Ok, that sounds good at least
[06:17] <IndigentToad_> I can get it to record in Ardour without any problems.
[06:17] <IndigentToad_> Fortunate
[06:18] <len-dt> I have heard some things that are general to USB IFs
[06:19] <len-dt> That they run better with 3 Periods/buffer.
[06:20] <len-dt> I have found it is worth while finding a USB port that does not share an interrupt with anything else.
[06:21] <len-dt> IndigentToad_, are you recording? or would you do live work?
[06:21] <IndigentToad_> Right now just single track recording.;
[06:22] <len-dt> You can use a longer latency then so long as you monitor from the Alpha's headphone jack or mixer if you have one.
[06:23] <len-dt> That is basically what I am doing is one track at a time.
[06:23] <IndigentToad_> I'd like to keep it tight so playback is right on when I'm doing midi synth or on guitar
[06:25] <IndigentToad_> FluidSynth is pretty much on the money, but ZynSubAddFX has some lag
[06:25] <len-dt> I expect you will be trying to set Frames/period to 64 if it's stable and 128 if you have to go higher. I record at 64 and then add effects and mixdown at 1024
[06:26] <len-dt> If you can do it, you can record the synth as midi and set the synth later.
[06:27] <IndigentToad_> running 1024 Frames/Period now
[06:27] <len-dt> Depends though, some people play best when they can hear what it will sound like.
[06:27] <len-dt> 1024 is pretty slow. you should be able to get it to run at 256, but you will be happier with 128
[06:28] <IndigentToad_> Lower the number, the faster?
[06:28] <len-dt> lower the number means less delay.
[06:28] <IndigentToad_> good to know.
[06:29] <IndigentToad_> 256 is 1/4th the delay, but probably 4x the power
[06:29] <len-dt> I use guitarix at 128 and it sounds good.
[06:30] <IndigentToad_> Would that help with bad delay with Rackarrack?
[06:30] <len-dt> Yup
[06:30] <IndigentToad_> I like the options with that, but the delay has always killed me. Almost a 1/4 sec delay
[06:30] <len-dt> any of the guitar effects for live use 256 is sort of the highest
[06:31] <len-dt> 128 is better.
[06:31] <IndigentToad_> Is it always a power of 8? 8, 64, 128, 256, etc
[06:31] <len-dt> I haven't tried rackarack at anything higher than 64 actually
[06:31] <len-dt> power of two.
[06:32] <IndigentToad_> My bad...
[06:32] <len-dt> A good PCI card can do 32.
[06:32] <IndigentToad_> using a laptop w/ the lexicon
[06:32] <len-dt> I get lots of drop outs at 32
[06:33] <len-dt> with my netbook and a USB and everything set "just right" I can get 64 in a stable way.
[06:33] <len-dt> 128 is a little better though.
[06:34] <IndigentToad_> Using a Core Duo with 1 gb RAM. I think 256 or 128 should be my goal unless I want to spend money
[06:34] <len-dt> I just using an Atom.
[06:34] <IndigentToad_> ok...hope for me then
[06:34] <IndigentToad_> LOL
[06:35] <len-dt> I found I have to remove the wireless driver while I am doing audio.
[06:35] <IndigentToad_> So far no problems here. I did disable the internal sound driver.
[06:35] <len-dt> If wireless is connected I get an xrun per minute and if disconnected I get an xrun every 5 sec.
[06:36] <IndigentToad_> ick
[06:36] <len-dt> But if I unload it, everything is fine.
[06:36] <IndigentToad_> No Xruns here unless I'm running a heavy soundfont w/ delay and reverb
[06:37] <IndigentToad_> My issue is that I only have three USB ports. One is for my wireless mouse, one is for the Lex, other swaps between my external HD and my midi controler.
[06:37] <IndigentToad_> Need a powered USB hub, but I worry it will cause issues
[06:38] <len-dt> I also found that the USB on the right side (USB3 on mine) has its own irq and works better than the one on the left.
[06:38] <IndigentToad_> true...if I can put things like my external HD and mouse on the hub, I think I will be fine
[06:39] <IndigentToad_> Running dual boot w/ Vista, so I only have 80 gb of hard drive per partition
[06:39] <IndigentToad_> Using GRUB - it's solid. No complaints so far
[06:39] <len-dt> I don't think I have ever run windows on my machines.
[06:39] <IndigentToad_> I got a wife and kids. They need it.
[06:40] <len-dt> My wife did for a bit. she has ubuntu desktop now.
[06:40] <IndigentToad_> I'm a Ubuntu addict
[06:40] <len-dt> I started with slackware just before version 1.0 (version .9X
[06:41] <IndigentToad_> Wife can use FireFox in Ubuntu, but she needs MS Office for crap.
[06:41] <IndigentToad_> WINE is too much for her
[06:41] <len-dt> kernel wasn't even to 1.0 then.
[06:41] <IndigentToad_> I don't mind having Vista dual boot. Sometimes I like having office, too
[06:41] <IndigentToad_> rue
[06:41] <IndigentToad_> true
[06:41] <len-dt> My wife is in school she uses libre office.
[06:42] <IndigentToad_> I did too for a while. Very functional
[06:42] <len-dt> We found if we save as .doc and not .docx most windows computers can open it fine.
[06:43] <IndigentToad_> Minor differences,but fairly stable
[06:43] <IndigentToad_> Do you use Hydrogen at all?
[06:43] <len-dt> Some. Mostly as a click track :)
[06:44] <len-dt> I run hydrogen, play guitar and sing on to one track as a scratch.
[06:44] <IndigentToad_> I can do some decent tracks and record simultaneously with a midi track, too
[06:44] <len-dt> Then I lay down tracks while listening to that.
[06:44] <IndigentToad_> it's versatile. I've thought about a stand alone physical drum machine, but I don't know what it could do that hydrogen can't
[06:45] <len-dt> I have a small set of pads.
[06:45] <IndigentToad_> do you run them through hydrogen or something else?
[06:45] <len-dt> I haven't had a set for a long time
[06:46] <len-dt> To be honest, I am still figuring that out.
[06:46] <len-dt> I would record to a midi track and then try things till I like it.
[06:46] <IndigentToad_> kewl...let me know because I've also been looking at midi pad controllers. Want to know how compatible they are w/ hydrogen
[06:47] <IndigentToad_> What are you using to record midi tracks? Ardour 3 or Rosegarden?
[06:47] <len-dt> Mines 10 years old... and not even compatible with GM :P
[06:47] <len-dt> I have been using qtracktor so far.
[06:48] <IndigentToad_> sorry...got booted
[06:48] <len-dt> Anyway I have to go
[06:49] <len-dt> Ya I saw that... happens.
[06:49] <IndigentToad_> LOL
[06:49] <IndigentToad_> Where you from LEN?
[06:49] <len-dt> Comox vally on Vancouver Island Bc Canada
[06:49] <IndigentToad_> Central WI here. At least the same continent.
[06:50]  * len-dt can even sometimes spell :P
[06:50] <len-dt> Later for you that me then.
[06:50] <IndigentToad_> True. Got Thurs off from the office. Spending some time in the basement...aka studio
[06:51] <len-dt> Not me, I have to work tomorrow. See you again.. Bye now
[06:51] <IndigentToad_> peace bro
[06:52] <IndigentToad_> Anyone else alive tonight?
[06:57] <IndigentToad_> *crickets chirping...
=== james is now known as millerthegorilla
[14:36] <rickbol> I see a new low-latency kernel is available in "updates", but I can;t select them for install (enable checkbox). How do I install this kernel?
[14:40] <rickbol> ... 12.04
[14:45] <zequence> rickbol: Probably just give it some time
[14:45] <zequence> Great to finally have it though
[14:47] <rickbol> ...that 'ol updater... always such a teaser.
[14:48] <zequence> rickbol: Are you using Ubuntu Studio with additional PPA(s) for audio?
[14:52] <rickbol> zequence: hmm, I haven't added any PPAs. I don't see any sources.list
[14:53] <zequence> rickbol: I wasn't considering the update issue. Was just wondering, cause my next question was: What do you think does not work well on Ubuntu Studio 12.04?
[14:55] <zequence> bbl
[14:57] <rickbol> I'm on my third wifi card (BCM4422). Finally stable. Been using AV Linux5.x. Transitioning to UStudio. My dvgrab->ffmpeg script doesn't work (but I've been stuck with generica-kerneL
[14:57] <rickbol> eager to try new low-latency
[14:58] <rickbol> zequence: haven't had time to try real audio apps yet.
[14:59] <rickbol> I'm hoping ffado works better with my O2 Micro, Inc. Firewire (IEEE 1394) (rev 02)
[15:00] <smartboyhw> rickbol, hmm launch a terminal emulator, type sudo apt-get update, after the process type sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:01] <rickbol> smartboyhw: that'll take me to 12.10, no? Couldn't get wifi working on it either (Live CD). But I don't think I've tried this card.
[15:01] <smartboyhw> rickbol, no of course not
[15:01] <smartboyhw> to 12.10 you type sudo do-release-upgrade -d