[04:07] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1046244] plasma-desktop crashes with SIGFAULT on boot @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1046244 (by Francesco Ruvolo)
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:25] <Riddell> gosh, tars!
[14:25]  * apachelogger drops dead
[14:26] <apachelogger> reminds me that I still need to script parallel sc packaging magic -.-
[14:32] <Riddell> Meeting Wednesday 17:00UTC
[15:06] <Riddell> gosh there's loads of kdegames modules
[15:06] <Riddell> including one called kshisen, isn't that a rude word in german?
[15:29] <yofel__> Riddell: well, that would be slang and s/k/g/, but it's close
[15:29] <yofel__> apachelogger: IMO the scripts are fine, I just make initial-upload not fail as easy
[15:29] <yofel__> s/make/made/
[15:29] <kubotu> yofel__ meant: "apachelogger: IMO the scripts are fine, I just made initial-upload not fail as easy"
[15:29] <apachelogger> dunno
[15:29] <apachelogger> we still have not discussed it
[15:29] <apachelogger> ...
[15:30] <yofel__> well... yeah
[15:30] <yofel__> until then, they ~work
[15:30] <apachelogger> lack of discussion annoyes my epically
[15:30] <apachelogger> which is why it annoys me that people are utterly unresponsive in kde-mm -.-
[15:30] <yofel__> didn't we discuss it? (most people don't seem to care)
[15:30] <Riddell> yofel__++ on the move to manual if it doesn't fail
[15:36] <Riddell> apachelogger: what needs discussed?
[15:36] <apachelogger> how it works, how it is supposed to work, how it could be better, why it is not better....
[15:40] <Riddell> yeah, we're too busy packaging at packaging time to discuss much and the rest of the time it's not the most important thing to do
[15:41] <apachelogger> sounds like you just made it a vicious circle :P
[15:42] <Riddell> hey I didn't do anything! that's just the case as I see it
[15:44] <yofel__> Riddell's right though. Even I only fixed the scripts *while* I was packaging because I was rather good at making them fail
[15:45]  * Riddell uploads akonadi 1.8.80
[17:16] <rdieter> a bot OT, but, robert ancell asked me to sign http://www.canonical.com/contributors to contribute to lightdm.  wondered what i'm supposed to fill in on the required "Please add the Canonical Project Manager or contact" field.  ??  (or advice where to find robert on irc?)
[17:25] <debfx> rdieter: he is robert_ancell on IRC but not online atm
[17:26] <rdieter> debfx: ok, mail it is then
[17:26] <rdieter> thx
[23:52] <LyzardKing> what is kubuntu's status, being passed over to bluesystems?
[23:53] <ScottK> LyzardKing: Kubuntu has always been a community led project.  The fact that some people work for a different company, doesn't really affect the work we do.
[23:55] <LyzardKing> ScottK: yes I know. I was just wondering, since the other company has probably different goals and ideas, what was the community's voice in the matter.
[23:55] <ScottK> AFAIK the fact that someone else is paying Riddell hasn't affected anything.
[23:56] <ScottK> Kubuntu Council still controls what happens in Kubuntu and it's elected by Kubuntu members.
[23:56] <ScottK> Actually that's not quite right.  Kubuntu Council is now a legal entity of some sort (I've forgotten the exact terms) and can accept donations directly.
[23:57] <ScottK> We used some of the money we have to send some additional KDE/Kubuntu people to UDS earlier this month.
[23:57] <ScottK> Now that I think about it, the change is we've got more room to do what we collectively agree we should be doing.
[23:58] <LyzardKing> ok, just what I wanted to hear. Thank you! I really like the way kubuntu is headed
[23:58] <LyzardKing> are there any guidelines written somewhere, with development in mind? like the main kde ones
[23:59] <ScottK> Our main goal is to present KDE in line with the way upstream developed it.
[23:59] <ScottK> KDE in Kubuntu looks more like an upstream build from source than (AFAIK) any other major distro and we like this.