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=== Kamilion|ZNC is now known as Kamilion
LoderHi there. Is anyone around who could help me with some performance issues/questions in Lubuntu?07:55
LoderHere is a report of my system specs: http://pastehtml.com/view/cij0kq2im.html07:58
LoderI'm wondering if I should expect this system to capably run standard definition youtube videos, and to be able to play flash games on Lubuntu 11.10. I am also wondering if upgrading to 12.04 or 12.10 would improve or decrease performance.07:58
LoderI also have no sound at the moment, and I believe I may be lacking a proper graphics driver. Additional drivers does not list anything, and I'm not familiar enough with this operating system to take it much further without help07:59
redderhsi'd say yes, you should be able to play sd youtube vids, and play flash games.08:00
redderhsi don't believe you'd see too much of a performance increase between 12.04 to 12.10 unless a driver update related to your system had been applied..08:01
LoderI tried Xubuntu 12.04 previously, which ran worse08:02
LoderAnd had a lot of graphical issues08:02
redderhsFrom my experiences Lubuntu ran better than Xubuntu.08:03
LoderAt the moment, youtube videos are very choppy and facebook games are very difficult to play08:03
LoderDo you have any ideas on how I might achieve better performance?08:03
LoderOr how I might perhaps get a better graphics driver? (The way some things are loading visually just seems like a display driver issue based on my experience, but I can't be certain)08:04
redderhsWhich webbrowser are you using? Did you download the Flash Plugin from Adobe's page?08:04
LoderI checked the box to include third party software, and assumed that that would have downloaded it08:04
LoderI assume that I have it, since I am able to watch youtube videos08:04
LoderBut maybe not the latest version08:04
redderhsthat should be the same exact build iirc.08:05
redderhsif there were graphic updates for your card, it would appear as an update for anything else.08:05
redderhsvia update manager08:06
LoderSo there isn't perhaps some sort of legacy driver or something that I would have to manually acquire?08:06
LoderIt just seems like this system is not performing as well as it should08:06
redderhsI wouldn't know if there were a legacy driver or not; according to your page the module "i915Intel Graphics" was loaded. perhaps someone else may chime in on your issues soon.08:09
LoderAlright, thanks. Maybe the integrated graphics has been installed correctly then08:09
redderhsare you most familiar with windows? if so, what resolution did you run under on there and did youtube videos and flash playback fine on there?08:10
LoderAbout the resolution, I have lowered it a lot now. I had already done that but it seems to be defaulting to the one that's listed on my specs page by default08:11
LoderAnd yes, I am a certified A+ professional with a lot of experience with windows08:11
LoderI'm just brand new to linux basically08:11
redderhsAh ok. safe to assume no performance increase with lowering resolution?08:11
LoderIt seems a little better actually08:11
redderhshow old is this pc? onboard video?08:12
LoderThe resolution was probably about as high as it is now, and in windows this machine was able to run youtube videos08:12
LoderAnd facebook games were not great08:12
LoderProbably about the same, actually08:12
LoderI was hoping that I would see better performance in a light linux distribution. I'm going to give this machine to a coworker for her nephew to play facebook games on08:12
LoderAnd yes, the graphics are onboard08:13
LoderIt's a very old machine08:13
LoderBought in 2005 I think08:13
redderhsi'd imagine that, in terms of what the gpu can do, it should be equal or slightly better on linux08:14
LoderYeah, I was hoping for slightly better08:14
redderhsyou should see mostly an increase in the amount of ram free as a big plus.08:14
LoderI believe facebook games used to run a bit choppy08:15
LoderI was hoping that the slight choppiness would smooth out in linux08:15
LoderYeah, RAM certainly doesn't seem to be an issue08:15
redderhsthe system overall in terms of execution of software should be better too.08:15
LoderIt boots and shuts down much better08:15
LoderI can open a lot of tabs without issue08:15
LoderI just wish I could squeeze enough performance out of this machine to accomplish what it's intended for08:16
LoderDo you have any idea what the bottleneck might be?08:16
LoderI'm not sure it would be the garbage celeron CPU or the onboard graphics08:16
Loderif it*08:16
redderhslet me take a look at the onboard08:17
LoderK08:17
redderhswhat model number is the pc?08:18
redderhsnvm i see it in the paste html08:19
redderhsDimension-240008:19
LoderYup08:19
LoderWhile you're here, is there a way to open a terminal window at the location that's in the foreground of the GUI?08:20
LoderIn order to easily run commands from the required directory without having to cd a whole bunch?08:20
redderhspretty sure there's a way to do it, not fully sure.08:22
LoderK08:22
LoderAny idea what to do about my sound not working, by the way?08:26
redderhsits kinda tough to say if its the gpu or cpu08:28
redderhsthis link helped me with sound. http://askubuntu.com/questions/106224/no-sound-after-lubuntu-installation08:28
redderhsi installed pulseaudio and pavucontrol08:29
redderhsthat allowed me to utilize the taskbars audio tray icon.08:29
LoderK thanks I'll give that a try08:29
redderhsnp08:30
LoderSound did not work in Xubuntu either, for the record08:30
LoderAnd in Ubuntu I'll never know, since all I got was a wallpaper after installing.. haha08:30
redderhsthat may have had something to do with Unity and the older onboard video08:32
LoderYeah08:32
redderhsbut i'd imagine an error message should have arose08:32
LoderSo for output devices, all I have is dummy output08:32
LoderDoesn't seem like I have a driver08:32
redderhsyou tried the pulse audio and pavucontrol?08:34
LoderYup08:34
LoderAnd that's all that's listed in pulse audio08:34
redderhsshouldn't you be looking under input?08:36
LoderI believe that would be a microphone08:36
LoderNothing there at any rate08:36
redderhsyeah you're probably right. i'm too tired for this lol.08:37
LoderHaha08:38
redderhsi think that link would be very useful for other things to try08:38
LoderA terminal command to list soundcards says none found08:38
redderhshopefully someone else would be more helpful to you than i within some time.08:39
LoderI feel like this is a driver problem08:39
LoderThe system does not see the audio controller at all08:39
redderhsdid any distribution of linux give you sound before?08:40
redderhsbesides lu and xubuntu08:40
LoderOnly tried Xubuntu 12.04 and Lubuntu 11.1008:41
LoderWell the first thing that I tried was Ubuntu 12.1008:41
LoderI did not get any sounds, I suppose maybe I would have heard a logon sound or something08:41
LoderIf it had been working08:41
LoderThough I only got as far as a wallpaper and a terminal window08:42
redderhsone other thing to do..08:43
redderhsis to make sure the sound is enabled in the bios and to maybe match up your onboard sound with this: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main08:43
LoderYou know, the previous users of this had a dedicated soundcard installed, but I assumed it was only to accommodate their 7.1 system08:43
LoderBut maybe they installed it because the onboard audio failed08:43
LoderAnd the BIOS settings are good unfortunately08:44
LoderI wouldn't have a clue what the name of the onboard sound would be08:44
LoderBut maybe I should postpone the sound thing until I ask them about it tomorrow08:44
LoderIt might just be dead on a hardware level08:44
redderhsif you find out the model of the mobo, you should be able to find out specific details from there using google by typing in the model # of the mobo08:46
LoderSo in your opinion, would you say that a Core 2 duo system @ ~2.0GHz with 2GB of RAM would be more than capable of running the latest Lubuntu or Xubuntu kernels?08:46
LoderCapably enough to watch youtube videos and play facebook games with no issues?08:46
redderhsyes, there should be absolutely no issues with any basic usage08:47
LoderK08:48
LoderAnd woah, I just got some weird graphical glitches08:48
LoderBlack screen for couple seconds, then my IRC tab got separated to a different window08:48
LoderHad blocks of screen loading all over the place individually08:49
LoderThis is the type of thing that was happening in xubuntu as well08:49
redderhsno idea if this is related.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=174649708:49
LoderLooks like it08:51
redderhsperhaps you dont have an i915 in this system and this module is getting loaded for some reason.. off guess.08:51
LoderSeems like I may be SOL with this machine though08:51
LoderWell, I have another system with almost identical specs kicking around08:51
LoderMaybe I'll just give that one a shot tomorrow08:51
redderhsif you can idle maybe hang out and see what someone else thinks.08:51
redderhsbut i need to get some sleep. I wish you luck with your issue.08:52
redderhsissues*08:52
LoderCan't idle because I need to plug the regular computer back into this monitor for the morning, or I'm going to have some angry people.. haha08:52
LoderI will check back tomorrow though08:52
LoderThanks for the help08:52
=== cdoublejj_ is now known as cdoublejj
Neverminderhello all11:54
Nevermindersomeone (maybe) can help me with puppy?11:54
Neverminderim running it live from usb11:54
Neverminderi want to install it11:55
Neverminderbut when installer starts,11:55
Neverminderand ask me for image file11:55
Neverminderi point it to /dev/sdb1 (usb stick)11:55
Neverminderit cant see it11:55
Neverminderand wants me to mount again11:55
kingfisher64is setting up samba shares the same on lubuntu as ubuntu. I'm assuming it is. If so I was planning to follow http://www.unixmen.com/howto-install-and-configure-samba-share-in-ubuntu/ instructions12:40
holsteinkingfisher64: should be the same, exepct for the nautilus parts14:03
adytza23hello14:37
adytza23i have a problem14:37
adytza23my wireless connection on asus eeepc 1015bx keeps conecting and disconecting14:37
adytza23what should i do?14:37
holsteinadytza23: i blacklisted the open module and installed the other14:42
holstein!broadcom14:42
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx14:42
holstein02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)14:42
holsteinhttps://sites.google.com/site/mtrons/howtos/eeepc-1015pn is what i referenced mostly, assuming that is the same wifi hardware14:43
holsteinif not, i would do the same.. try a different driver..14:43
adytza23my laptop has Atheros AW-NE785H wireless card14:44
adytza23and it keeps conecting and discoencting14:45
adytza23:(14:45
holsteinyou can always try the windows drivers with ndisgtk14:45
holsteinadytza23: i would test with different access points14:45
holsteinhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203500714:47
holsteinhmmm....14:47
kingfisher64was following this tut (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1623346&highlight=samba) holstein on lubuntu - win 7 sharing. I basically want to backup my laptop to desktop. Done what was suggested but win 7 isn't picking up lubuntu share and vice versa. Do you have any suggestions? Many thanks17:01
bioterrorsudo apt-get install openssh-server17:01
bioterrorfrom windows: install winscp and use that to move files17:01
kingfisher64right bioterror, i'll look into openssh-server. I use http://www.bitvise.com/index client. Quicker than winscp.17:14
kingfisher64thanks17:16
kingfisher64bioterror++17:23
Zupermanhello, i need help19:05
Zupermani messed up with xrandr19:05
Zupermanand suddenly my system fonts become too small19:05
Zupermani can vearly read19:05
Zuperman*bearly19:05
Zupermanjust chrome fonts are ok19:05
Zupermanterminal, menus19:06
Zupermanall fonts are 6 px i think19:06
Zupermanplease, save me, i don't want to reinstall19:06
Zupermani just installed new system19:06
Zuperman*barely19:07
Zupermanlol19:07
Zupermananyone?19:13
Unit193Zuperman: Install arandr or lxrandr and undo whatever you did.19:13
Unit193Or, open the preferences or system tools then "Display"19:13
Zupermanyes?19:13
Zupermanno, general resolution is ok19:14
Zupermanjust fonts are small19:14
Zupermanhello, i have this output when i try to sudo X -configure19:56
Zupermannumber of detected screens does not match number of detected devices19:56
Zupermani have only one monitor... and graphic card19:56
mircea_cjhi everybody ! i have a question related to lubuntu software manager, is it possible to manage add-ons of installed applications ?20:00
holsteinmircea_cj: just depends... its a software manager, so if the addons come in the repos or added sources or ppas, you'll see them there20:03
holsteinif not, you do it through the specific application20:03
mircea_cjon ubuntu software manager you have them right there, you can install or delete them, i thought...that lubuntu software manager has that feature20:04
holsteinmircea_cj: you can install the main software manager if you prefer it20:05
mircea_cji prefer lubuntu software manager, it doesn't matter at preferences if i change to expert mode, it never saves the configuration20:06
mircea_cjor anything i change there20:07
mircea_cjanyway, thanks for the help holstein20:12

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