| === Kamilion|ZNC is now known as Kamilion | ||
| Loder | Hi there. Is anyone around who could help me with some performance issues/questions in Lubuntu? | 07:55 |
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| Loder | Here is a report of my system specs: http://pastehtml.com/view/cij0kq2im.html | 07:58 |
| Loder | I'm wondering if I should expect this system to capably run standard definition youtube videos, and to be able to play flash games on Lubuntu 11.10. I am also wondering if upgrading to 12.04 or 12.10 would improve or decrease performance. | 07:58 |
| Loder | I also have no sound at the moment, and I believe I may be lacking a proper graphics driver. Additional drivers does not list anything, and I'm not familiar enough with this operating system to take it much further without help | 07:59 |
| redderhs | i'd say yes, you should be able to play sd youtube vids, and play flash games. | 08:00 |
| redderhs | i don't believe you'd see too much of a performance increase between 12.04 to 12.10 unless a driver update related to your system had been applied.. | 08:01 |
| Loder | I tried Xubuntu 12.04 previously, which ran worse | 08:02 |
| Loder | And had a lot of graphical issues | 08:02 |
| redderhs | From my experiences Lubuntu ran better than Xubuntu. | 08:03 |
| Loder | At the moment, youtube videos are very choppy and facebook games are very difficult to play | 08:03 |
| Loder | Do you have any ideas on how I might achieve better performance? | 08:03 |
| Loder | Or how I might perhaps get a better graphics driver? (The way some things are loading visually just seems like a display driver issue based on my experience, but I can't be certain) | 08:04 |
| redderhs | Which webbrowser are you using? Did you download the Flash Plugin from Adobe's page? | 08:04 |
| Loder | I checked the box to include third party software, and assumed that that would have downloaded it | 08:04 |
| Loder | I assume that I have it, since I am able to watch youtube videos | 08:04 |
| Loder | But maybe not the latest version | 08:04 |
| redderhs | that should be the same exact build iirc. | 08:05 |
| redderhs | if there were graphic updates for your card, it would appear as an update for anything else. | 08:05 |
| redderhs | via update manager | 08:06 |
| Loder | So there isn't perhaps some sort of legacy driver or something that I would have to manually acquire? | 08:06 |
| Loder | It just seems like this system is not performing as well as it should | 08:06 |
| redderhs | I wouldn't know if there were a legacy driver or not; according to your page the module "i915Intel Graphics" was loaded. perhaps someone else may chime in on your issues soon. | 08:09 |
| Loder | Alright, thanks. Maybe the integrated graphics has been installed correctly then | 08:09 |
| redderhs | are you most familiar with windows? if so, what resolution did you run under on there and did youtube videos and flash playback fine on there? | 08:10 |
| Loder | About the resolution, I have lowered it a lot now. I had already done that but it seems to be defaulting to the one that's listed on my specs page by default | 08:11 |
| Loder | And yes, I am a certified A+ professional with a lot of experience with windows | 08:11 |
| Loder | I'm just brand new to linux basically | 08:11 |
| redderhs | Ah ok. safe to assume no performance increase with lowering resolution? | 08:11 |
| Loder | It seems a little better actually | 08:11 |
| redderhs | how old is this pc? onboard video? | 08:12 |
| Loder | The resolution was probably about as high as it is now, and in windows this machine was able to run youtube videos | 08:12 |
| Loder | And facebook games were not great | 08:12 |
| Loder | Probably about the same, actually | 08:12 |
| Loder | I was hoping that I would see better performance in a light linux distribution. I'm going to give this machine to a coworker for her nephew to play facebook games on | 08:12 |
| Loder | And yes, the graphics are onboard | 08:13 |
| Loder | It's a very old machine | 08:13 |
| Loder | Bought in 2005 I think | 08:13 |
| redderhs | i'd imagine that, in terms of what the gpu can do, it should be equal or slightly better on linux | 08:14 |
| Loder | Yeah, I was hoping for slightly better | 08:14 |
| redderhs | you should see mostly an increase in the amount of ram free as a big plus. | 08:14 |
| Loder | I believe facebook games used to run a bit choppy | 08:15 |
| Loder | I was hoping that the slight choppiness would smooth out in linux | 08:15 |
| Loder | Yeah, RAM certainly doesn't seem to be an issue | 08:15 |
| redderhs | the system overall in terms of execution of software should be better too. | 08:15 |
| Loder | It boots and shuts down much better | 08:15 |
| Loder | I can open a lot of tabs without issue | 08:15 |
| Loder | I just wish I could squeeze enough performance out of this machine to accomplish what it's intended for | 08:16 |
| Loder | Do you have any idea what the bottleneck might be? | 08:16 |
| Loder | I'm not sure it would be the garbage celeron CPU or the onboard graphics | 08:16 |
| Loder | if it* | 08:16 |
| redderhs | let me take a look at the onboard | 08:17 |
| Loder | K | 08:17 |
| redderhs | what model number is the pc? | 08:18 |
| redderhs | nvm i see it in the paste html | 08:19 |
| redderhs | Dimension-2400 | 08:19 |
| Loder | Yup | 08:19 |
| Loder | While you're here, is there a way to open a terminal window at the location that's in the foreground of the GUI? | 08:20 |
| Loder | In order to easily run commands from the required directory without having to cd a whole bunch? | 08:20 |
| redderhs | pretty sure there's a way to do it, not fully sure. | 08:22 |
| Loder | K | 08:22 |
| Loder | Any idea what to do about my sound not working, by the way? | 08:26 |
| redderhs | its kinda tough to say if its the gpu or cpu | 08:28 |
| redderhs | this link helped me with sound. http://askubuntu.com/questions/106224/no-sound-after-lubuntu-installation | 08:28 |
| redderhs | i installed pulseaudio and pavucontrol | 08:29 |
| redderhs | that allowed me to utilize the taskbars audio tray icon. | 08:29 |
| Loder | K thanks I'll give that a try | 08:29 |
| redderhs | np | 08:30 |
| Loder | Sound did not work in Xubuntu either, for the record | 08:30 |
| Loder | And in Ubuntu I'll never know, since all I got was a wallpaper after installing.. haha | 08:30 |
| redderhs | that may have had something to do with Unity and the older onboard video | 08:32 |
| Loder | Yeah | 08:32 |
| redderhs | but i'd imagine an error message should have arose | 08:32 |
| Loder | So for output devices, all I have is dummy output | 08:32 |
| Loder | Doesn't seem like I have a driver | 08:32 |
| redderhs | you tried the pulse audio and pavucontrol? | 08:34 |
| Loder | Yup | 08:34 |
| Loder | And that's all that's listed in pulse audio | 08:34 |
| redderhs | shouldn't you be looking under input? | 08:36 |
| Loder | I believe that would be a microphone | 08:36 |
| Loder | Nothing there at any rate | 08:36 |
| redderhs | yeah you're probably right. i'm too tired for this lol. | 08:37 |
| Loder | Haha | 08:38 |
| redderhs | i think that link would be very useful for other things to try | 08:38 |
| Loder | A terminal command to list soundcards says none found | 08:38 |
| redderhs | hopefully someone else would be more helpful to you than i within some time. | 08:39 |
| Loder | I feel like this is a driver problem | 08:39 |
| Loder | The system does not see the audio controller at all | 08:39 |
| redderhs | did any distribution of linux give you sound before? | 08:40 |
| redderhs | besides lu and xubuntu | 08:40 |
| Loder | Only tried Xubuntu 12.04 and Lubuntu 11.10 | 08:41 |
| Loder | Well the first thing that I tried was Ubuntu 12.10 | 08:41 |
| Loder | I did not get any sounds, I suppose maybe I would have heard a logon sound or something | 08:41 |
| Loder | If it had been working | 08:41 |
| Loder | Though I only got as far as a wallpaper and a terminal window | 08:42 |
| redderhs | one other thing to do.. | 08:43 |
| redderhs | is to make sure the sound is enabled in the bios and to maybe match up your onboard sound with this: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main | 08:43 |
| Loder | You know, the previous users of this had a dedicated soundcard installed, but I assumed it was only to accommodate their 7.1 system | 08:43 |
| Loder | But maybe they installed it because the onboard audio failed | 08:43 |
| Loder | And the BIOS settings are good unfortunately | 08:44 |
| Loder | I wouldn't have a clue what the name of the onboard sound would be | 08:44 |
| Loder | But maybe I should postpone the sound thing until I ask them about it tomorrow | 08:44 |
| Loder | It might just be dead on a hardware level | 08:44 |
| redderhs | if you find out the model of the mobo, you should be able to find out specific details from there using google by typing in the model # of the mobo | 08:46 |
| Loder | So in your opinion, would you say that a Core 2 duo system @ ~2.0GHz with 2GB of RAM would be more than capable of running the latest Lubuntu or Xubuntu kernels? | 08:46 |
| Loder | Capably enough to watch youtube videos and play facebook games with no issues? | 08:46 |
| redderhs | yes, there should be absolutely no issues with any basic usage | 08:47 |
| Loder | K | 08:48 |
| Loder | And woah, I just got some weird graphical glitches | 08:48 |
| Loder | Black screen for couple seconds, then my IRC tab got separated to a different window | 08:48 |
| Loder | Had blocks of screen loading all over the place individually | 08:49 |
| Loder | This is the type of thing that was happening in xubuntu as well | 08:49 |
| redderhs | no idea if this is related.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1746497 | 08:49 |
| Loder | Looks like it | 08:51 |
| redderhs | perhaps you dont have an i915 in this system and this module is getting loaded for some reason.. off guess. | 08:51 |
| Loder | Seems like I may be SOL with this machine though | 08:51 |
| Loder | Well, I have another system with almost identical specs kicking around | 08:51 |
| Loder | Maybe I'll just give that one a shot tomorrow | 08:51 |
| redderhs | if you can idle maybe hang out and see what someone else thinks. | 08:51 |
| redderhs | but i need to get some sleep. I wish you luck with your issue. | 08:52 |
| redderhs | issues* | 08:52 |
| Loder | Can't idle because I need to plug the regular computer back into this monitor for the morning, or I'm going to have some angry people.. haha | 08:52 |
| Loder | I will check back tomorrow though | 08:52 |
| Loder | Thanks for the help | 08:52 |
| === cdoublejj_ is now known as cdoublejj | ||
| Neverminder | hello all | 11:54 |
| Neverminder | someone (maybe) can help me with puppy? | 11:54 |
| Neverminder | im running it live from usb | 11:54 |
| Neverminder | i want to install it | 11:55 |
| Neverminder | but when installer starts, | 11:55 |
| Neverminder | and ask me for image file | 11:55 |
| Neverminder | i point it to /dev/sdb1 (usb stick) | 11:55 |
| Neverminder | it cant see it | 11:55 |
| Neverminder | and wants me to mount again | 11:55 |
| kingfisher64 | is setting up samba shares the same on lubuntu as ubuntu. I'm assuming it is. If so I was planning to follow http://www.unixmen.com/howto-install-and-configure-samba-share-in-ubuntu/ instructions | 12:40 |
| holstein | kingfisher64: should be the same, exepct for the nautilus parts | 14:03 |
| adytza23 | hello | 14:37 |
| adytza23 | i have a problem | 14:37 |
| adytza23 | my wireless connection on asus eeepc 1015bx keeps conecting and disconecting | 14:37 |
| adytza23 | what should i do? | 14:37 |
| holstein | adytza23: i blacklisted the open module and installed the other | 14:42 |
| holstein | !broadcom | 14:42 |
| ubottu | Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx | 14:42 |
| holstein | 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01) | 14:42 |
| holstein | https://sites.google.com/site/mtrons/howtos/eeepc-1015pn is what i referenced mostly, assuming that is the same wifi hardware | 14:43 |
| holstein | if not, i would do the same.. try a different driver.. | 14:43 |
| adytza23 | my laptop has Atheros AW-NE785H wireless card | 14:44 |
| adytza23 | and it keeps conecting and discoencting | 14:45 |
| adytza23 | :( | 14:45 |
| holstein | you can always try the windows drivers with ndisgtk | 14:45 |
| holstein | adytza23: i would test with different access points | 14:45 |
| holstein | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2035007 | 14:47 |
| holstein | hmmm.... | 14:47 |
| kingfisher64 | was following this tut (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1623346&highlight=samba) holstein on lubuntu - win 7 sharing. I basically want to backup my laptop to desktop. Done what was suggested but win 7 isn't picking up lubuntu share and vice versa. Do you have any suggestions? Many thanks | 17:01 |
| bioterror | sudo apt-get install openssh-server | 17:01 |
| bioterror | from windows: install winscp and use that to move files | 17:01 |
| kingfisher64 | right bioterror, i'll look into openssh-server. I use http://www.bitvise.com/index client. Quicker than winscp. | 17:14 |
| kingfisher64 | thanks | 17:16 |
| kingfisher64 | bioterror++ | 17:23 |
| Zuperman | hello, i need help | 19:05 |
| Zuperman | i messed up with xrandr | 19:05 |
| Zuperman | and suddenly my system fonts become too small | 19:05 |
| Zuperman | i can vearly read | 19:05 |
| Zuperman | *bearly | 19:05 |
| Zuperman | just chrome fonts are ok | 19:05 |
| Zuperman | terminal, menus | 19:06 |
| Zuperman | all fonts are 6 px i think | 19:06 |
| Zuperman | please, save me, i don't want to reinstall | 19:06 |
| Zuperman | i just installed new system | 19:06 |
| Zuperman | *barely | 19:07 |
| Zuperman | lol | 19:07 |
| Zuperman | anyone? | 19:13 |
| Unit193 | Zuperman: Install arandr or lxrandr and undo whatever you did. | 19:13 |
| Unit193 | Or, open the preferences or system tools then "Display" | 19:13 |
| Zuperman | yes? | 19:13 |
| Zuperman | no, general resolution is ok | 19:14 |
| Zuperman | just fonts are small | 19:14 |
| Zuperman | hello, i have this output when i try to sudo X -configure | 19:56 |
| Zuperman | number of detected screens does not match number of detected devices | 19:56 |
| Zuperman | i have only one monitor... and graphic card | 19:56 |
| mircea_cj | hi everybody ! i have a question related to lubuntu software manager, is it possible to manage add-ons of installed applications ? | 20:00 |
| holstein | mircea_cj: just depends... its a software manager, so if the addons come in the repos or added sources or ppas, you'll see them there | 20:03 |
| holstein | if not, you do it through the specific application | 20:03 |
| mircea_cj | on ubuntu software manager you have them right there, you can install or delete them, i thought...that lubuntu software manager has that feature | 20:04 |
| holstein | mircea_cj: you can install the main software manager if you prefer it | 20:05 |
| mircea_cj | i prefer lubuntu software manager, it doesn't matter at preferences if i change to expert mode, it never saves the configuration | 20:06 |
| mircea_cj | or anything i change there | 20:07 |
| mircea_cj | anyway, thanks for the help holstein | 20:12 |
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