| jcastro_ | bkerensa: misleading headline | 01:46 |
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| jcastro_ | that's just some wine thing! | 01:46 |
| bkerensa | jcastro_: on Ubuntu | 01:47 |
| mhall119 | I'd be fine with it being wine, but it's still pretty hacked together it seems | 02:27 |
| mhall119 | also, it's still silverlight | 02:27 |
| mhall119 | so not a FLOSS solution | 02:27 |
| bkerensa | mhall119: the hacked together part is getting sorted it will all be patched upstream and a ppa made to make install painless | 02:29 |
| bkerensa | there likely will not be a FLOSS solution since Netflix has been adamant about not working on Linux | 02:29 |
| mhall119 | it's not that they don't want to work on Linux, it's that they can't provide DRM on an open system | 02:30 |
| bkerensa | correct | 02:30 |
| bkerensa | much like Steam is not open sourcing its platform for a very similar reason | 02:30 |
| mhall119 | I'm sure they'd happily support Netflix on Linux with Silverlight | 02:31 |
| bkerensa | lol | 02:31 |
| bkerensa | well the thing is they are moving away from silverlight | 02:31 |
| mhall119 | right, IIRC Microsoft is killing it off | 02:31 |
| bkerensa | and last time I checked Microsoft was not willing to work with Mono folks in the past anyways | 02:31 |
| mhall119 | they've been very willing to work with Mono | 02:32 |
| bkerensa | wat | 02:32 |
| mhall119 | they just won't guarantee a DRM implementation on an open source codebase | 02:32 |
| bkerensa | hah | 02:32 |
| bkerensa | :D | 02:32 |
| mhall119 | If memory serves, Microsoft did a lot of work with the Mono project to create Moonlight | 02:32 |
| mhall119 | What they won't provide is the DRM bits (Playsforsure or something like that) | 02:33 |
| mhall119 | so while the Netflix client will likely run on Moonlight just fine, without the DRM parts it won't be able to decode the videos | 02:33 |
| bkerensa | so solution is | 02:34 |
| bkerensa | Canonical subsidizes Netflix to provide a closed package | 02:34 |
| bkerensa | :P | 02:34 |
| bkerensa | otherwise how will Ubuntu TV ever work? | 02:34 |
| mhall119 | same way Roku does, the OEM provides the DRM bits in hardware | 02:34 |
| bkerensa | so it will be a open source tv but with closed hardware? | 02:35 |
| mhall119 | yes | 02:36 |
| mhall119 | DRM doesn't work with "open" | 02:36 |
| mhall119 | since it, by necessity, must give you a copy of the decryption key without letting you access the decryption key | 02:36 |
| mhall119 | which is why a closed-source package from Canonical isn't likely, we would have to guarantee to the content producers that users will not be able to access the key we ship with the package | 02:39 |
| mhall119 | and given that our users can do a lot of things to access it that they can't do on Windows or Mac, that'd be very, very hard to guarantee | 02:39 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:42 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 08:37 |
| elfy | hi czajkowski | 08:47 |
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| cjohnston | mornin | 12:16 |
| daker | hi | 12:48 |
| Pici | Is http://ubuntu.mirocommunity.org/ supposed to still exist? | 13:30 |
| Pici | Where would a user find content that was there. | 13:30 |
| czajkowski | Pici: what was on there? | 13:30 |
| czajkowski | never heard of it before | 13:30 |
| jcastro_ | it used to have ubuntudeveloper content | 13:32 |
| Pici | Oh, I misread the user request, they're looking for content from UDS-M | 13:33 |
| jcastro_ | it should be on ubuntudeveloper and/or the blip channel | 13:33 |
| Pici | jcastro_: righto, I'll point them in that direction. | 13:33 |
| jcastro_ | so originally we uploaded all the videos to blip | 15:09 |
| jcastro_ | and then it would distribute to youtube and miro | 15:09 |
| jcastro_ | but miro and blip changed interfaces/goals at some point | 15:09 |
| jcastro_ | so now it's just basically using blip to autoupload to youtube | 15:09 |
| jcastro_ | dholbach: hey did you guys figure out what to do with the FAQ? SHould I idle in your meeting? | 15:21 |
| dholbach | jcastro_, I think cwayne18 is on it and it might take a while | 15:22 |
| dholbach | but I'm not 100% sure | 15:22 |
| dholbach | I can ask him in the meeting | 15:22 |
| jcastro_ | k, #ubuntu-meeting? | 15:22 |
| dholbach | yep | 15:22 |
| dholbach | what a great meeting | 16:10 |
| nhandler | /134/85 | 16:14 |
| dholbach | have a great weekend everyone | 17:06 |
| bkerensa | jcastro_: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4795880 (posted) also upboat on Reddit | 21:13 |
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