[01:46] bkerensa: misleading headline [01:46] that's just some wine thing! [01:47] jcastro_: on Ubuntu [02:27] I'd be fine with it being wine, but it's still pretty hacked together it seems [02:27] also, it's still silverlight [02:27] so not a FLOSS solution [02:29] mhall119: the hacked together part is getting sorted it will all be patched upstream and a ppa made to make install painless [02:29] there likely will not be a FLOSS solution since Netflix has been adamant about not working on Linux [02:30] it's not that they don't want to work on Linux, it's that they can't provide DRM on an open system [02:30] correct [02:30] much like Steam is not open sourcing its platform for a very similar reason [02:31] I'm sure they'd happily support Netflix on Linux with Silverlight [02:31] lol [02:31] well the thing is they are moving away from silverlight [02:31] right, IIRC Microsoft is killing it off [02:31] and last time I checked Microsoft was not willing to work with Mono folks in the past anyways [02:32] they've been very willing to work with Mono [02:32] wat [02:32] they just won't guarantee a DRM implementation on an open source codebase [02:32] hah [02:32] :D [02:32] If memory serves, Microsoft did a lot of work with the Mono project to create Moonlight [02:33] What they won't provide is the DRM bits (Playsforsure or something like that) [02:33] so while the Netflix client will likely run on Moonlight just fine, without the DRM parts it won't be able to decode the videos [02:34] so solution is [02:34] Canonical subsidizes Netflix to provide a closed package [02:34] :P [02:34] otherwise how will Ubuntu TV ever work? [02:34] same way Roku does, the OEM provides the DRM bits in hardware [02:35] so it will be a open source tv but with closed hardware? [02:36] yes [02:36] DRM doesn't work with "open" [02:36] since it, by necessity, must give you a copy of the decryption key without letting you access the decryption key [02:39] which is why a closed-source package from Canonical isn't likely, we would have to guarantee to the content producers that users will not be able to access the key we ship with the package [02:39] and given that our users can do a lot of things to access it that they can't do on Windows or Mac, that'd be very, very hard to guarantee [07:42] good morning [08:37] aloha [08:47] hi czajkowski === technovi- is now known as technoviking [12:16] mornin [12:48] hi [13:30] Is http://ubuntu.mirocommunity.org/ supposed to still exist? [13:30] Where would a user find content that was there. [13:30] Pici: what was on there? [13:30] never heard of it before [13:32] it used to have ubuntudeveloper content [13:33] Oh, I misread the user request, they're looking for content from UDS-M [13:33] it should be on ubuntudeveloper and/or the blip channel [13:33] jcastro_: righto, I'll point them in that direction. [15:09] so originally we uploaded all the videos to blip [15:09] and then it would distribute to youtube and miro [15:09] but miro and blip changed interfaces/goals at some point [15:09] so now it's just basically using blip to autoupload to youtube [15:21] dholbach: hey did you guys figure out what to do with the FAQ? SHould I idle in your meeting? [15:22] jcastro_, I think cwayne18 is on it and it might take a while [15:22] but I'm not 100% sure [15:22] I can ask him in the meeting [15:22] k, #ubuntu-meeting? [15:22] yep [16:10] what a great meeting [16:14] /134/85 [17:06] have a great weekend everyone [21:13] jcastro_: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4795880 (posted) also upboat on Reddit