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RAOFrobert_ancell: Would you kindly push wayland 1.0 to git? :)00:36
robert_ancellRAOF, debian git?00:48
RAOFYup; pkg-xorg.00:48
RAOFhttp://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-xorg/wayland/wayland.git00:48
RAOFAh. Or you might not actually have commit access there, I guess.00:49
robert_ancellRAOF, and it appears they use some sort of merge-upstream?00:49
RAOFCorrect.00:50
RAOFWould you perhaps like me to do the merginating of your uploads?00:50
robert_ancellRAOF, go for it00:50
RAOFProbably time to upgrade to raring, too.00:53
* TheMuso upgraded to raring when he got back.00:55
TheMusoRAOF: Note that there is no noverlay filesystem support of any kind in 3.7 thats in raring now, a kernel that fixes this is currently in proposed.00:55
TheMusos/noverlay/overlay.00:55
TheMusoIn other words, current 3.7 in raring proper has no aufs and overlayfs modules.00:56
RAOFWin!00:56
RAOFMy suffering with btrfs finally pays dividends!00:56
TheMusoCool.00:56
TheMusoI got bitten by no overlay support yesterday when attempting to use sbuild on 3.7.00:56
TheMusoIts times like this when being able to keep older kernels around is useful.00:57
xnoxRAOF: well... i use lvm snapshots =) no btrfs suffering and pays same dividends =)00:58
RAOF:P00:58
xnoxRAOF: also you hit my "btrfs" highlight ;-)00:59
RAOFOh, really?00:59
RAOFWhy do you have such a beast?00:59
xnoxyeah =)00:59
xnoxRAOF: look at the upload history of btrfs-tools ;-)01:00
RAOFHah.01:00
ajmitchxnox: I'd look as well but LP timed out :P01:04
* xnox timesout to sleep01:04
didrocksgood morning05:56
BigWhalegood morning didrocks! :)06:36
didrockshey BigWhale!06:37
BigWhale*tumbleweed*06:37
BigWhaleoh, you're here. :)06:37
BigWhalejust ^W that ... :))06:37
seb128hey desktopers07:44
RAOFmake install07:46
RAOFHeh.07:46
didrockshey RAOF ;) salut seb128!07:47
seb128hey didrocks, RAOF07:47
RAOFHey all!07:47
chrisccoulsongood morning everyone08:35
chrisccoulsonmeh:08:36
chrisccoulson491871 INFO Failed: 11308:36
seb128chrisccoulson, hey, how are you?08:36
chrisccoulson!!08:37
seb128what's that?08:37
chrisccoulsonhi seb128, i'm good thanks. how are you?08:37
chrisccoulsonseb128, firefox mochitests08:37
seb128good, thanks08:37
chrisccoulsonalthough, that's a small number of failures really:08:37
chrisccoulson491870 INFO Passed: 66955708:37
chrisccoulson;)08:37
larsuFriday!08:38
larsugood morning chrisccoulson, seb128!08:38
chrisccoulsonhi larsu :)08:38
seb128larsu, hey, how are you?08:38
larsuseb128, good thanks. Yourself?08:39
chrisccoulsonyeah, i like fridays :)08:39
seb128larsu, I'm good thanks08:39
chrisccoulsonwhen i was at college, i always used to get a bacon and hash brown sandwich at breakfast on a friday08:39
seb128hehe08:39
chrisccoulsonwe used to call it "fattening fry day"08:39
chrisccoulson;)08:39
seb128lol08:39
larsuhah08:39
larsuseb128, did you try the pidgin package with messaging menu integration? People are saying it works, now08:41
chrisccoulsonnow i'm thinking about bacon :(08:41
seb128chrisccoulson, you made me want one for those fattening breakfast :p08:42
chrisccoulsonheh :)08:42
* seb128 is staying at didrocks' today, the guy doesn't eat breakfast or lunch, I'm scared08:42
didrockss/scared/screwed/08:43
seb128see :(08:43
didrocksheh ;)08:43
chrisccoulsonoh, here's one of the test failures:08:43
chrisccoulsonhttp://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/a50a77da3cf9/content/canvas/test/webgl/test_webgl_conformance_test_suite.html#l36808:43
chrisccoulsoni guess that ones easy to fix08:43
chrisccoulsondisable it ;)08:43
larsudidrocks, give this guy something to eat!08:43
seb128larsu, no, I wanted to do that and got carried in email backlog, giving it a try next08:43
larsudidrocks, and: happy Friday morning to you ;)08:44
didrocksgood morning larsu, forcing feeding? what world are we living on?08:44
larsudidrocks, as long as its bacon I'm sure he doesn't mind :P08:45
didrockslarsu: tssssss :)08:45
didrocksonly at UDS08:45
larsu:D08:45
didrocksno chance to find bacon here :)08:45
didrocksbut butter + marmalade for seb12808:46
* larsu would much prefer that for breakfast. Sans the butter08:46
didrocksthis is the butter controversy08:46
seb128oh, didrocks finally agrees on adding the butter with the marmalade, shame that breakfast is over08:46
didrocksheh08:47
seb128dammit, larsu is in the no-butter side08:47
didrocksseb128: want another one? :)08:47
larsuNO BUTTER FTW!08:47
seb128larsu, right, wurst for breakfast in germany08:48
larsuseb128, not for me either (I don't like meat in the morning). Sorry to disappoint  :)08:49
Laneymorning09:06
Laneydamn you dpkg-gensymbols09:06
hyperairLaney: what's up with gensymbols?09:08
Laneyc++09:08
Laneysize_t09:08
hyperairoh09:08
hyperairi've had that09:08
Laneyyes.09:08
Laneywhat's the solution?09:08
hyperairsee libmediainfo09:08
Laneyis it to use pkgkde-symbolshelper?09:08
hyperairi didn't.09:08
hyperairbut some people say it helps09:08
hyperairi just used regexes09:08
Laneyuh huh09:09
hyperairit works pretty well09:09
hyperairLaney: oh and i use the demangled symbols.09:09
Laneyyes09:09
hyperairso it's sometihng like (c++|regex)09:09
Laneyhttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/123173455/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-powerpc.webkit_1.10.1-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz09:09
Laneywarning it's pretty big, maybe wget at vim it09:10
Laneys/at/and/09:10
hyperairugh09:10
hyperairtrust webkit to be huge in everything09:10
Laneyshame it's a 3 hour turnaround09:10
hyperairccache should help matters09:12
hyperairfor local builds09:12
Laneyprobably09:12
hyperairLaney: actually i only see one size_t related symbol...09:13
hyperairLaney: the rest are valid additions imo09:13
hyperairsize_t makes me wish it was a real distinct type instead of a typedef.09:15
Laneyall looks like size_t to me09:15
Laneywhat do you see?09:15
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chrisccoulsonso, i've added autopkgtest support to firefox now: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/firefox/firefox-trunk.autopkgtest/files/head:/debian/tests/09:34
chrisccoulsonis there anything else i need to do to make that run when i upload?09:34
SarvattXS-Testsuite: autopkgtest in debian/control, unless that packaging is never going to be in debian then that doesn't matter :)09:39
Sarvattoh its already there09:40
mlankhorstSarvatt: what are you doing awake09:41
mlankhorst:P09:41
mlankhorstend that gaming session already >:D09:41
chrisccoulsongah, why do people email me to report bugs?10:33
seb128chrisccoulson, because you don't reply to IRC pings :p10:35
chrisccoulsonlol10:35
chrisccoulsoni get enough email without people mailing me with issues ;)10:35
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chrisccoulsonin this case, the latest upload to the firefox beta PPA completely broke the menubar thanks to a random build-ordering issue10:36
chrisccoulsonbut nobody reported a bug to launchpad10:36
chrisccoulsonthey just emailed me instead10:36
chrisccoulsonwhich prevents anybody else from tracking it10:36
chrisccoulsonok, i added a comment to the PPA description: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-next10:38
chrisccoulsoni wonder if anyone reads that ;)10:38
Laney"For questions and bugs with software in this PPA please contact Mozilla Team."10:38
chrisccoulsonhmmm, that sucks. and i can't change that, can i?10:39
Laneynot afaik10:39
chrisccoulsonis that displayed when you do "add-apt-repository"?10:40
chrisccoulsonok, it's not. only the custom description is displayed10:40
Laneyit gives a link to that page10:41
chrisccoulsonok, i updated the comment again ;)10:42
chrisccoulson"For questions and bugs with software in this PPA please *don't* contact mozillateam."10:42
Laneyhaha10:42
Laneyrename the team10:42
Laney"Mozilla Team ← forget what that says"10:43
Tm_TLaney: that would be nice10:45
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seb128Laney, hey, do you plan to do SRU brasero as well?11:22
seb128Laney, ignore that, the fix was already srued it seems11:24
Laneyhmm?11:24
LaneyI just copied from q-updates to r :-)11:24
seb128Laney, oh ok11:24
seb128Laney, I got confused, I though you did an upload which reminded me of bug #65800411:25
ubot2Launchpad bug 658004 in brasero (Ubuntu) "brasero dvd capacity estimation is broken" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65800411:25
Laneyah, we could probably put that in bzr to pick it up next time11:26
Laneyi'll do that11:26
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chrisccoulsonnow nobody has an excuse not to read our bug reporting guidelines: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs11:58
chrisccoulsoni added a nice little summary at the top ;)11:58
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xclaesseseb128, I would be very happy if devhelp 3.6.1 can be pushed to quantal. For that fix: http://git.gnome.org/browse/devhelp/commit/?h=gnome-3-6&id=d7506a2eb5ae92136a8e400561d38817784107fb12:39
xclaessethe rest is only translations12:39
seb128xclaesse, can do12:41
xclaesseawesome, thanks :)12:41
seb128yw, thanks for pointing it12:42
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mterryseb128, didrocks: any objections to 'unity-settings-appearance' for the package name for the appearance panel?16:24
didrocksmterry: sounds good to me16:24
seb128mterry, no strong opinion on the topic, works for me if you like it ... I'm not sure exposing "appearance" there is the best thing16:25
seb128compared to e.g -panel16:26
seb128but it's just a name and I'm not good at picking those ;-)16:26
mterryseb128, you're thinking we'd have one source package for all future panels?16:26
seb128if we have different unity panel why not ... which I don't think we plan to16:26
seb128but yeah, no need to have one source for each panel imho16:27
mterryseb128, hmm, then if we're doing a bucket package, I'd favor just "unity-settings"  (panel is too techy in my mind -- the name is never exposed to users(16:27
seb128mterry, that name would mislead users to think that's an ui to configure unity16:28
seb128keep the one you first suggested16:28
jbichaPrivacy uses activity-log-manager-control-center which isn't the most intuitive16:28
seb128gnome-control-center-unity16:29
seb128to follow the gnome-control-center-signon leads ;-)16:29
mterryjbicha, that name is awful  :)16:29
mterryseb128, if there's precedent, that's fine16:30
mterryjbicha, though I guess gnome-control-center-unity isn't much better16:30
seb128mterry, dpkg -l gnome-control-center-signon16:30
seb128why is "picking a name" always that hard ;-)16:31
mterryseb128, it's important!  anyone that doesn't think so can go stand with tedg16:31
kenvandine:-D16:31
larsuit's an extension for gnome-control-center, so shouldn't it start with "gnome-control-center-"?16:31
mterrylarsu, that's a fine point of view, but I was thinking its defining feature was that it was the settings for unity, and being a g-c-c panel was an implementation detail that might change in 20 years16:32
tedgmterry, It's easy, you just try a few and the first one that gets kenvandine to drop off IRC you use.16:32
kenvandinehehe16:32
jbichag-c-c-unity is a bit ambiguous; it's possible that the designers will decide on a different panel besides Appearance in the future16:33
mterryjbicha, right, and then we wouldn't have to change the name.  feature, not bug, eh?16:33
seb128jbicha, why would -unity confuse anyone if they rename appearance?16:33
larsumterry, right, in that case I'm for your first suggestion, without the -appearance suffix16:34
seb128larsu, unity-settings?16:34
larsuseb128, ya16:34
seb128isn't that going to mislead users to think that's a configuration ui16:34
larsuisn't it?16:34
seb128?16:34
jbichawhat if there's a new panel called Unity, and Ubuntu still wants to have a separate Appearance panel to set the wallpaper16:34
mterryseb128, there is  :)  g-c-c16:34
larsuseb128, I thought that's exactly what it is16:34
mterryjbicha, that unity panel would be part of this package16:34
seb128jbicha, we set we would batch all the unity panels (if there is ever extra ones) in that source16:35
mterryjbicha, we're talking about having a package that will house any future panels16:35
seb128we said*16:35
jbichahow about ubuntu-control-center? ;)16:35
larsujbicha wins the internet!16:35
seb128that would mislead people to think it's our "fork of upstream g-c-c"16:35
jbichaseb128: it sort of is…16:35
seb128it's only one panel16:35
mterryOK, I'm going with gnome-control-center-unity16:39
seb128mterry, \o/16:39
mterryjbicha, another reason I don't like ubuntu-control-center is that this is unity-specific, not ubuntu-specific.  I like to reserve ubuntu for project-wide things if possible16:40
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mterryjbicha, btw, did you see that I made separate deja-dup backends, so you can only seed the ones you want to in gnome316:40
jbichamterry: yes thank you :)16:41
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* didrocks waves good evening17:57
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qenghoOh, sweet, learned that sys.executable (which Chromium uses in build tools) can be the empty string sometimes. So much fun.21:41
qenghoWorked around it. So glad it's EOW.21:41
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LLStarkshow do i reset gnome? my g-c-c settings won't unlock unless i use gksu. can't change themes or make my clock am/pm.22:45

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