[00:36] <RAOF> robert_ancell: Would you kindly push wayland 1.0 to git? :)
[00:48] <robert_ancell> RAOF, debian git?
[00:48] <RAOF> Yup; pkg-xorg.
[00:48] <RAOF> http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-xorg/wayland/wayland.git
[00:49] <RAOF> Ah. Or you might not actually have commit access there, I guess.
[00:49] <robert_ancell> RAOF, and it appears they use some sort of merge-upstream?
[00:50] <RAOF> Correct.
[00:50] <RAOF> Would you perhaps like me to do the merginating of your uploads?
[00:50] <robert_ancell> RAOF, go for it
[00:53] <RAOF> Probably time to upgrade to raring, too.
[00:55]  * TheMuso upgraded to raring when he got back.
[00:55] <TheMuso> RAOF: Note that there is no noverlay filesystem support of any kind in 3.7 thats in raring now, a kernel that fixes this is currently in proposed.
[00:55] <TheMuso> s/noverlay/overlay.
[00:56] <TheMuso> In other words, current 3.7 in raring proper has no aufs and overlayfs modules.
[00:56] <RAOF> Win!
[00:56] <RAOF> My suffering with btrfs finally pays dividends!
[00:56] <TheMuso> Cool.
[00:56] <TheMuso> I got bitten by no overlay support yesterday when attempting to use sbuild on 3.7.
[00:57] <TheMuso> Its times like this when being able to keep older kernels around is useful.
[00:58] <xnox> RAOF: well... i use lvm snapshots =) no btrfs suffering and pays same dividends =)
[00:58] <RAOF> :P
[00:59] <xnox> RAOF: also you hit my "btrfs" highlight ;-)
[00:59] <RAOF> Oh, really?
[00:59] <RAOF> Why do you have such a beast?
[00:59] <xnox> yeah =)
[01:00] <xnox> RAOF: look at the upload history of btrfs-tools ;-)
[01:00] <RAOF> Hah.
[01:04] <ajmitch> xnox: I'd look as well but LP timed out :P
[01:04]  * xnox timesout to sleep
[05:56] <didrocks> good morning
[06:36] <BigWhale> good morning didrocks! :)
[06:37] <didrocks> hey BigWhale!
[06:37] <BigWhale> *tumbleweed*
[06:37] <BigWhale> oh, you're here. :)
[06:37] <BigWhale> just ^W that ... :))
[07:44] <seb128> hey desktopers
[07:46] <RAOF> make install
[07:46] <RAOF> Heh.
[07:47] <didrocks> hey RAOF ;) salut seb128!
[07:47] <seb128> hey didrocks, RAOF
[07:47] <RAOF> Hey all!
[08:35] <chrisccoulson> good morning everyone
[08:36] <chrisccoulson> meh:
[08:36] <chrisccoulson> 491871 INFO Failed: 113
[08:36] <seb128> chrisccoulson, hey, how are you?
[08:37] <chrisccoulson> !!
[08:37] <seb128> what's that?
[08:37] <chrisccoulson> hi seb128, i'm good thanks. how are you?
[08:37] <chrisccoulson> seb128, firefox mochitests
[08:37] <seb128> good, thanks
[08:37] <chrisccoulson> although, that's a small number of failures really:
[08:37] <chrisccoulson> 491870 INFO Passed: 669557
[08:37] <chrisccoulson> ;)
[08:38] <larsu> Friday!
[08:38] <larsu> good morning chrisccoulson, seb128!
[08:38] <chrisccoulson> hi larsu :)
[08:38] <seb128> larsu, hey, how are you?
[08:39] <larsu> seb128, good thanks. Yourself?
[08:39] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i like fridays :)
[08:39] <seb128> larsu, I'm good thanks
[08:39] <chrisccoulson> when i was at college, i always used to get a bacon and hash brown sandwich at breakfast on a friday
[08:39] <seb128> hehe
[08:39] <chrisccoulson> we used to call it "fattening fry day"
[08:39] <chrisccoulson> ;)
[08:39] <seb128> lol
[08:39] <larsu> hah
[08:41] <larsu> seb128, did you try the pidgin package with messaging menu integration? People are saying it works, now
[08:41] <chrisccoulson> now i'm thinking about bacon :(
[08:42] <seb128> chrisccoulson, you made me want one for those fattening breakfast :p
[08:42] <chrisccoulson> heh :)
[08:42]  * seb128 is staying at didrocks' today, the guy doesn't eat breakfast or lunch, I'm scared
[08:43] <didrocks> s/scared/screwed/
[08:43] <seb128> see :(
[08:43] <didrocks> heh ;)
[08:43] <chrisccoulson> oh, here's one of the test failures:
[08:43] <chrisccoulson> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/a50a77da3cf9/content/canvas/test/webgl/test_webgl_conformance_test_suite.html#l368
[08:43] <chrisccoulson> i guess that ones easy to fix
[08:43] <chrisccoulson> disable it ;)
[08:43] <larsu> didrocks, give this guy something to eat!
[08:43] <seb128> larsu, no, I wanted to do that and got carried in email backlog, giving it a try next
[08:44] <larsu> didrocks, and: happy Friday morning to you ;)
[08:44] <didrocks> good morning larsu, forcing feeding? what world are we living on?
[08:45] <larsu> didrocks, as long as its bacon I'm sure he doesn't mind :P
[08:45] <didrocks> larsu: tssssss :)
[08:45] <didrocks> only at UDS
[08:45] <larsu> :D
[08:45] <didrocks> no chance to find bacon here :)
[08:46] <didrocks> but butter + marmalade for seb128
[08:46]  * larsu would much prefer that for breakfast. Sans the butter
[08:46] <didrocks> this is the butter controversy
[08:46] <seb128> oh, didrocks finally agrees on adding the butter with the marmalade, shame that breakfast is over
[08:47] <didrocks> heh
[08:47] <seb128> dammit, larsu is in the no-butter side
[08:47] <didrocks> seb128: want another one? :)
[08:47] <larsu> NO BUTTER FTW!
[08:48] <seb128> larsu, right, wurst for breakfast in germany
[08:49] <larsu> seb128, not for me either (I don't like meat in the morning). Sorry to disappoint  :)
[09:06] <Laney> morning
[09:06] <Laney> damn you dpkg-gensymbols
[09:08] <hyperair> Laney: what's up with gensymbols?
[09:08] <Laney> c++
[09:08] <Laney> size_t
[09:08] <hyperair> oh
[09:08] <hyperair> i've had that
[09:08] <Laney> yes.
[09:08] <Laney> what's the solution?
[09:08] <hyperair> see libmediainfo
[09:08] <Laney> is it to use pkgkde-symbolshelper?
[09:08] <hyperair> i didn't.
[09:08] <hyperair> but some people say it helps
[09:08] <hyperair> i just used regexes
[09:09] <Laney> uh huh
[09:09] <hyperair> it works pretty well
[09:09] <hyperair> Laney: oh and i use the demangled symbols.
[09:09] <Laney> yes
[09:09] <hyperair> so it's sometihng like (c++|regex)
[09:09] <Laney> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/123173455/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-powerpc.webkit_1.10.1-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[09:10] <Laney> warning it's pretty big, maybe wget at vim it
[09:10] <Laney> s/at/and/
[09:10] <hyperair> ugh
[09:10] <hyperair> trust webkit to be huge in everything
[09:10] <Laney> shame it's a 3 hour turnaround
[09:12] <hyperair> ccache should help matters
[09:12] <hyperair> for local builds
[09:12] <Laney> probably
[09:13] <hyperair> Laney: actually i only see one size_t related symbol...
[09:13] <hyperair> Laney: the rest are valid additions imo
[09:15] <hyperair> size_t makes me wish it was a real distinct type instead of a typedef.
[09:15] <Laney> all looks like size_t to me
[09:15] <Laney> what do you see?
[09:34] <chrisccoulson> so, i've added autopkgtest support to firefox now: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/firefox/firefox-trunk.autopkgtest/files/head:/debian/tests/
[09:34] <chrisccoulson> is there anything else i need to do to make that run when i upload?
[09:39] <Sarvatt> XS-Testsuite: autopkgtest in debian/control, unless that packaging is never going to be in debian then that doesn't matter :)
[09:40] <Sarvatt> oh its already there
[09:41] <mlankhorst> Sarvatt: what are you doing awake
[09:41] <mlankhorst> :P
[09:41] <mlankhorst> end that gaming session already >:D
[10:33] <chrisccoulson> gah, why do people email me to report bugs?
[10:35] <seb128> chrisccoulson, because you don't reply to IRC pings :p
[10:35] <chrisccoulson> lol
[10:35] <chrisccoulson> i get enough email without people mailing me with issues ;)
[10:36] <chrisccoulson> in this case, the latest upload to the firefox beta PPA completely broke the menubar thanks to a random build-ordering issue
[10:36] <chrisccoulson> but nobody reported a bug to launchpad
[10:36] <chrisccoulson> they just emailed me instead
[10:36] <chrisccoulson> which prevents anybody else from tracking it
[10:38] <chrisccoulson> ok, i added a comment to the PPA description: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-next
[10:38] <chrisccoulson> i wonder if anyone reads that ;)
[10:38] <Laney> "For questions and bugs with software in this PPA please contact Mozilla Team."
[10:39] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, that sucks. and i can't change that, can i?
[10:39] <Laney> not afaik
[10:40] <chrisccoulson> is that displayed when you do "add-apt-repository"?
[10:40] <chrisccoulson> ok, it's not. only the custom description is displayed
[10:41] <Laney> it gives a link to that page
[10:42] <chrisccoulson> ok, i updated the comment again ;)
[10:42] <chrisccoulson> "For questions and bugs with software in this PPA please *don't* contact mozillateam."
[10:42] <Laney> haha
[10:42] <Laney> rename the team
[10:43] <Laney> "Mozilla Team ← forget what that says"
[10:45] <Tm_T> Laney: that would be nice
[11:22] <seb128> Laney, hey, do you plan to do SRU brasero as well?
[11:24] <seb128> Laney, ignore that, the fix was already srued it seems
[11:24] <Laney> hmm?
[11:24] <Laney> I just copied from q-updates to r :-)
[11:24] <seb128> Laney, oh ok
[11:25] <seb128> Laney, I got confused, I though you did an upload which reminded me of bug #658004
[11:25] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 658004 in brasero (Ubuntu) "brasero dvd capacity estimation is broken" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/658004
[11:26] <Laney> ah, we could probably put that in bzr to pick it up next time
[11:26] <Laney> i'll do that
[11:58] <chrisccoulson> now nobody has an excuse not to read our bug reporting guidelines: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs
[11:58] <chrisccoulson> i added a nice little summary at the top ;)
[12:39] <xclaesse> seb128, I would be very happy if devhelp 3.6.1 can be pushed to quantal. For that fix: http://git.gnome.org/browse/devhelp/commit/?h=gnome-3-6&id=d7506a2eb5ae92136a8e400561d38817784107fb
[12:39] <xclaesse> the rest is only translations
[12:41] <seb128> xclaesse, can do
[12:41] <xclaesse> awesome, thanks :)
[12:42] <seb128> yw, thanks for pointing it
[16:24] <mterry> seb128, didrocks: any objections to 'unity-settings-appearance' for the package name for the appearance panel?
[16:24] <didrocks> mterry: sounds good to me
[16:25] <seb128> mterry, no strong opinion on the topic, works for me if you like it ... I'm not sure exposing "appearance" there is the best thing
[16:26] <seb128> compared to e.g -panel
[16:26] <seb128> but it's just a name and I'm not good at picking those ;-)
[16:26] <mterry> seb128, you're thinking we'd have one source package for all future panels?
[16:26] <seb128> if we have different unity panel why not ... which I don't think we plan to
[16:27] <seb128> but yeah, no need to have one source for each panel imho
[16:27] <mterry> seb128, hmm, then if we're doing a bucket package, I'd favor just "unity-settings"  (panel is too techy in my mind -- the name is never exposed to users(
[16:28] <seb128> mterry, that name would mislead users to think that's an ui to configure unity
[16:28] <seb128> keep the one you first suggested
[16:28] <jbicha> Privacy uses activity-log-manager-control-center which isn't the most intuitive
[16:29] <seb128> gnome-control-center-unity
[16:29] <seb128> to follow the gnome-control-center-signon leads ;-)
[16:29] <mterry> jbicha, that name is awful  :)
[16:30] <mterry> seb128, if there's precedent, that's fine
[16:30] <mterry> jbicha, though I guess gnome-control-center-unity isn't much better
[16:30] <seb128> mterry, dpkg -l gnome-control-center-signon
[16:31] <seb128> why is "picking a name" always that hard ;-)
[16:31] <mterry> seb128, it's important!  anyone that doesn't think so can go stand with tedg
[16:31] <kenvandine> :-D
[16:31] <larsu> it's an extension for gnome-control-center, so shouldn't it start with "gnome-control-center-"?
[16:32] <mterry> larsu, that's a fine point of view, but I was thinking its defining feature was that it was the settings for unity, and being a g-c-c panel was an implementation detail that might change in 20 years
[16:32] <tedg> mterry, It's easy, you just try a few and the first one that gets kenvandine to drop off IRC you use.
[16:32] <kenvandine> hehe
[16:33] <jbicha> g-c-c-unity is a bit ambiguous; it's possible that the designers will decide on a different panel besides Appearance in the future
[16:33] <mterry> jbicha, right, and then we wouldn't have to change the name.  feature, not bug, eh?
[16:33] <seb128> jbicha, why would -unity confuse anyone if they rename appearance?
[16:34] <larsu> mterry, right, in that case I'm for your first suggestion, without the -appearance suffix
[16:34] <seb128> larsu, unity-settings?
[16:34] <larsu> seb128, ya
[16:34] <seb128> isn't that going to mislead users to think that's a configuration ui
[16:34] <larsu> isn't it?
[16:34] <seb128> ?
[16:34] <jbicha> what if there's a new panel called Unity, and Ubuntu still wants to have a separate Appearance panel to set the wallpaper
[16:34] <mterry> seb128, there is  :)  g-c-c
[16:34] <larsu> seb128, I thought that's exactly what it is
[16:34] <mterry> jbicha, that unity panel would be part of this package
[16:35] <seb128> jbicha, we set we would batch all the unity panels (if there is ever extra ones) in that source
[16:35] <mterry> jbicha, we're talking about having a package that will house any future panels
[16:35] <seb128> we said*
[16:35] <jbicha> how about ubuntu-control-center? ;)
[16:35] <larsu> jbicha wins the internet!
[16:35] <seb128> that would mislead people to think it's our "fork of upstream g-c-c"
[16:35] <jbicha> seb128: it sort of is…
[16:35] <seb128> it's only one panel
[16:39] <mterry> OK, I'm going with gnome-control-center-unity
[16:39] <seb128> mterry, \o/
[16:40] <mterry> jbicha, another reason I don't like ubuntu-control-center is that this is unity-specific, not ubuntu-specific.  I like to reserve ubuntu for project-wide things if possible
[16:40] <mterry> jbicha, btw, did you see that I made separate deja-dup backends, so you can only seed the ones you want to in gnome3
[16:41] <jbicha> mterry: yes thank you :)
[17:57]  * didrocks waves good evening
[21:41] <qengho> Oh, sweet, learned that sys.executable (which Chromium uses in build tools) can be the empty string sometimes. So much fun.
[21:41] <qengho> Worked around it. So glad it's EOW.
[22:45] <LLStarks> how do i reset gnome? my g-c-c settings won't unlock unless i use gksu. can't change themes or make my clock am/pm.