| dholbach | good morning | 07:43 |
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| geser | good morning | 08:20 |
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| obounaim | Hello | 10:24 |
| obounaim | what are the disadvantages of using udd? | 10:24 |
| geser | there aren't really any (if the packaging branch is up-to-date), it's more a preference if one uses it or not | 10:25 |
| obounaim | I heard that udd have some problems with quilt patchs is that right? | 10:28 |
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| tumbleweed | geser: well, sure there are. Checkout time vs a local mirror can be quite high (but once you have a local checkout, it's cheaper next time...) | 11:55 |
| tumbleweed | obounaim: yes, tehre are some issues with quilt patches. I thought that had improved in the last year or so, but can't remember the details | 11:56 |
| tumbleweed | play with it yourself, and see how it works for you | 11:56 |
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| obounaim | How changes made in package branch (UDD) find its way to the Ubuntu archive. | 12:31 |
| Laney | someone uploads them as normal | 12:32 |
| Laney | by building a source package and uploading it to the correct location | 12:32 |
| obounaim | I mean when somebody uses (UDD) to make changes in a package. How the source package will be made available in the Ubuntu archive. | 12:36 |
| obounaim | source and binary packages | 12:36 |
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| maxb | manual uploading same as any other upload | 12:37 |
| Laney | that's what I answered | 12:37 |
| maxb | yes. obounaim just didn't seem to understand :-) | 12:38 |
| Laney | heh | 12:38 |
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| obounaim | No, I mean how changes made in a package branch using the UDD will be available to everybody out there, is the UDD importer responsible for this? | 12:44 |
| obounaim | When we make changes in a package branch we don't upload a source package. | 12:44 |
| Laney | a developer has to take the branch and turn it into a source package and upload it | 12:44 |
| obounaim | So it is not done automatically? | 12:45 |
| maxb | correct | 12:45 |
| Laney | you always want some deliberate action to trigger a build - it's not true that any arbitrary revision of a branch should be given out to users | 12:47 |
| Laney | currently that's uploading a source package, but in the future it could be pushing a signed tag or issuing a special Launchpad command | 12:48 |
| Laney | still will be an explicit request though | 12:48 |
| jtaylor | is this an armhf libc issue? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/123081185/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-armhf.gluegen2_2.0-rc11-1~exp1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 12:48 |
| jtaylor | scroll right down | 12:49 |
| jtaylor | /usr/include/stdc-predef.h:30:26: fatal error: bits/predefs.h: No such file or directory | 12:49 |
| obounaim | Laney, maxb. Thank you very much | 12:50 |
| Laney | jtaylor: still exists according to Contents-armhf.gz | 12:54 |
| jtaylor | strange | 12:58 |
| jtaylor | micahg: anything more you want tested for bug 1074765 | 13:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1074765 in Quantal Backports "Please backport ipython 0.13.1-1 (universe) from raring" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1074765 | 13:07 |
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| micahg | jtaylor: anything that's a Reverse-Depends | 14:56 |
| jtaylor | there are only reverse recommends and suggests | 14:56 |
| micahg | python-surfer, python-polybori? | 14:57 |
| jtaylor | those should not be depends | 15:04 |
| jtaylor | but I'll check them | 15:04 |
| micahg | jtaylor: if there's a bug in the script, let's get it fixed | 15:06 |
| jtaylor | no its a bug in the packages | 15:06 |
| jtaylor | the rdeps are all just embedded shells | 15:06 |
| jtaylor | all but accerciser just fall back to regular python if ipython is not there | 15:06 |
| jtaylor | fyi 0.13 is backported to precise since it existed in a ppa (~60 users) | 15:07 |
| jtaylor | micahg: checked both, surfer is quantal only (and broken) the backport is a nop there | 15:14 |
| jtaylor | polybori is already broken in precise and the functionality is completely optional | 15:15 |
| micahg | yade, nipype, python-pytango, connectomeviewer, statsmodels, rabbitvcs-core, those also appears as Depends, can you please comment in the bug as to the state of all of them | 15:16 |
| jtaylor | build depends | 15:16 |
| jtaylor | do those have to work too?= | 15:16 |
| jtaylor | because yade build is broken by it | 15:18 |
| jtaylor | but nobody wants to build that anyway it needs like 8gb of ram ._. | 15:18 |
| micahg | they're supposed to all work, if the version in precise is already broken, then a backport is fine | 15:19 |
| jtaylor | got to file some bugs, far to strict dependencies on ipython everywhere | 15:33 |
| jtaylor | rabbitvcs does not even expose the option unless you hack the code but its a depend ... | 15:33 |
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