[07:43] good morning [08:20] good morning === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === astraljava1 is now known as astraljava === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw [10:24] Hello [10:24] what are the disadvantages of using udd? [10:25] there aren't really any (if the packaging branch is up-to-date), it's more a preference if one uses it or not [10:28] I heard that udd have some problems with quilt patchs is that right? === LoganCloud_ is now known as LoganCloud === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [11:55] geser: well, sure there are. Checkout time vs a local mirror can be quite high (but once you have a local checkout, it's cheaper next time...) [11:56] obounaim: yes, tehre are some issues with quilt patches. I thought that had improved in the last year or so, but can't remember the details [11:56] play with it yourself, and see how it works for you === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [12:31] How changes made in package branch (UDD) find its way to the Ubuntu archive. [12:32] someone uploads them as normal [12:32] by building a source package and uploading it to the correct location [12:36] I mean when somebody uses (UDD) to make changes in a package. How the source package will be made available in the Ubuntu archive. [12:36] source and binary packages === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [12:37] manual uploading same as any other upload [12:37] that's what I answered [12:38] yes. obounaim just didn't seem to understand :-) [12:38] heh === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [12:44] No, I mean how changes made in a package branch using the UDD will be available to everybody out there, is the UDD importer responsible for this? [12:44] When we make changes in a package branch we don't upload a source package. [12:44] a developer has to take the branch and turn it into a source package and upload it [12:45] So it is not done automatically? [12:45] correct [12:47] you always want some deliberate action to trigger a build - it's not true that any arbitrary revision of a branch should be given out to users [12:48] currently that's uploading a source package, but in the future it could be pushing a signed tag or issuing a special Launchpad command [12:48] still will be an explicit request though [12:48] is this an armhf libc issue? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/123081185/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-armhf.gluegen2_2.0-rc11-1~exp1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [12:49] scroll right down [12:49] /usr/include/stdc-predef.h:30:26: fatal error: bits/predefs.h: No such file or directory [12:50] Laney, maxb. Thank you very much [12:54] jtaylor: still exists according to Contents-armhf.gz [12:58] strange [13:07] micahg: anything more you want tested for bug 1074765 [13:07] Launchpad bug 1074765 in Quantal Backports "Please backport ipython 0.13.1-1 (universe) from raring" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1074765 === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [14:56] jtaylor: anything that's a Reverse-Depends [14:56] there are only reverse recommends and suggests [14:57] python-surfer, python-polybori? [15:04] those should not be depends [15:04] but I'll check them [15:06] jtaylor: if there's a bug in the script, let's get it fixed [15:06] no its a bug in the packages [15:06] the rdeps are all just embedded shells [15:06] all but accerciser just fall back to regular python if ipython is not there [15:07] fyi 0.13 is backported to precise since it existed in a ppa (~60 users) [15:14] micahg: checked both, surfer is quantal only (and broken) the backport is a nop there [15:15] polybori is already broken in precise and the functionality is completely optional [15:16] yade, nipype, python-pytango, connectomeviewer, statsmodels, rabbitvcs-core, those also appears as Depends, can you please comment in the bug as to the state of all of them [15:16] build depends [15:16] do those have to work too?= [15:18] because yade build is broken by it [15:18] but nobody wants to build that anyway it needs like 8gb of ram ._. [15:19] they're supposed to all work, if the version in precise is already broken, then a backport is fine [15:33] got to file some bugs, far to strict dependencies on ipython everywhere [15:33] rabbitvcs does not even expose the option unless you hack the code but its a depend ... === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === Ursinha_ is now known as Ursinha === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === Caesar_ is now known as Caesar === Logan__ is now known as Logan_ === yofel_ is now known as yofel