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bdmurrayremove-package is the right tool to remove something from -proposed that hasn't been verified correct?00:03
bdmurrayslangasek: ^?00:06
slangasekbdmurray: that's what I would use, yes00:07
phillwslangasek: just a really quick question.. Is it fair for a company to compare the resource usage for XEN VM against KVM?00:10
slangasekphillw: er, that certainly seems off topic for this channel, and I don't know why you would expect me to have an opinion on it00:10
phillwslangasek: I've seen views on this channel about using VM's for testing, you own view is quite okay. you can give it in PM if you do not want it to be logged :)00:12
slangasekno, I really don't have any opinion on the question00:12
bdmurrayslangasek: I ended up receiving an Unauthorized message from Launcpad00:14
slangasekbdmurray: when trying to remove the package?00:14
phillwthanks, so I guess my asking you guys which cloud 'protocol' is the best to learn from scratch will result in the same "UN blue helmet", 100% diplomatic answer :/00:15
bdmurrayslangasek: yeah, iirc cjwatson removed me from ubuntu-archive some time ago so perhaps it is fall out from that00:15
slangasekbdmurray: hmm, ok.  want to give me the command and I'll run it for you?00:17
infinitybdmurray: If you're not in u-a, you can't remove packages from the archive.00:17
infinityThat said, remove-package is timing out right now anyway, due to an LP bug.00:18
slangasekbdmurray: and then I guess you should open a bug against launchpad asking cjwatson to give SRU team access for -proposed removals00:18
slangasekphillw: if you want opinions on clouds, you should probably ask on a cloud-related channel00:18
bdmurrayremove-package -m "Not verified within a timely fashion" -d ubuntu -s oneiric-proposed xkeyboard-config00:18
infinity(It's going to time out anyway, as I said)00:19
slangasekinfinity: it didn't time out at the commandline; should I be expecting a lovely email later?00:20
infinityslangasek: Oh, no, maybe you're just really lucky. :P00:20
cjwatsonProbably depends on how hot the cache is00:20
* infinity is watching a removal time out right now, and this is also why sru-report is littered with pending removals...00:21
bdmurrayand here I am commenting on all these SRU bugs hoping to remove stuff00:29
phillwhi bdmurray I'm sorry if I am tardy in bug areas, please feel free to give me a 'dig in the ribs' for any lubuntu related ones that I can look at via KVM. I 'think' I've got the whole suite of the ISO's back after my hard drive 'checked in sick'.01:05
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ogra_haha09:58
ogra_i just looked at the new cdimage code ...09:58
ogra_armhf+somethingelse09:58
ogra_lovely subarch09:59
psivaaI see that today's server image installers have mismatching kernel versions. Will they be respun later today?10:09
Davieypsivaa: I you waiting to test it?10:14
DavieyAre you*10:14
psivaaDaviey: well, it would be good if there are working images for today, but not absolutely urgent10:16
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Davieypsivaa: If you were waiting to test it, i'd jump to a respin right now :)10:24
psivaaDaviey: thanks10:26
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Laneybah, seb128 uploaded but I saw something strange on brasero12:22
Laneyhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brasero/+publishinghistory12:22
seb128Laney, ?12:22
Laneyubuntu3 was deleted from proposed but didn't appear in release12:23
Laneythat was a copy from quantal-updates with binaries, including armel12:23
seb128oh12:23
cjwatsonThat may have been my mistake, sorry12:23
cjwatsonThough I thought I checked all the removals I did12:23
cjwatsonsru-report now generates versioned removal commands to avoid this kind of mistake12:23
seb128speaking of copy and armel ... non virtual ppas still do armel build on raring12:23
Laneythe message says 'moved to release'12:23
cjwatsonhuh, britney did it12:24
seb128is that wanted? is that going to be an issue when didrocks' system try to copy builds to the archive?12:24
Laneyarmel weirdness?12:24
cjwatsonseb128: it's not been quite fully removed yet I think - but ask #launchpad-ops, please12:24
seb128cjwatson, ok12:24
cjwatsonseb128: the PPA in question may need to have armel manually disabled or something12:25
Laneydoes that happen on nonvirt PPAs too?12:25
didrocksLaney: it's a non virtual one12:25
Laneyrighto12:25
cjwatson2012-11-16 11:25:13 INFO    Running <PlainPackageCopyJob to copy package brasero from ubuntu/primary, PROPOSED pocket, in ubuntu raring to ubuntu/primary, RELEASE pocket, in ubuntu raring, including binaries> (ID12:26
cjwatson15907120) in status Waiting12:26
cjwatson2012-11-16 11:25:14 INFO    Job:12:26
cjwatson<PlainPackageCopyJob to copy package brasero from ubuntu/primary, PROPOSED pocket, in ubuntu raring to ubuntu/primary, RELEASE pocket, in ubuntu raring, including binaries>12:26
cjwatsonraised CannotCopy:12:26
cjwatsonbrasero 3.4.1-0ubuntu3 in raring (binaries conflicting with the existing ones)12:26
cjwatsonHmm12:26
Laneynothing notified me of that12:26
cjwatsonNo, I wouldn't have expected it to12:26
Laneyoh, that's the britney one12:26
cjwatsonThat's the least of the problems12:26
Laneymisread12:26
cjwatsonSo it probably does have something to do with copying up from quantal-updates, but I'm not exactly sure what12:27
didrockscjwatson: I have another small question btw :) how can we use the right launchpad credential on lillipilly (we plugged everything in with jibel, just need that info for the archive copy)?12:27
cjwatsondidrocks: You don't need to do anything special; just run your launchpadlib code as the ubuntu-archive user12:28
didrockscjwatson: are the passwords somewhere accessible to me or jibel to be able to log in?12:28
cjwatsondidrocks: Why do you need a password?12:29
cjwatsondidrocks: ubuntu-archive@lillypilly is already authenticated12:30
didrockscjwatson: ok, there if I don't specify a credential file, the default is already authenticated. I just need to try that. Thanks :)12:30
cjwatsonJust do the natural thing with no messing about :)12:31
seb128cjwatson, (just as a follow up the ppa issue was a non issue in fact, the current builds still target quantal as a release so it's normal it builds for armel)12:31
didrockscjwatson: we had some issue not specifying the credential file in some other server (it was trying to use gnome-keyring even if not installed), but if it's not an issue on that machine, I'm all for default cred :)12:32
cjwatsonseb128: I saw, thanks12:34
cjwatsondidrocks: Lots of stuff in ubuntu-archive-tools already works fine in this case12:34
didrocksoh, I'm sure it does, just need to move stuff from jibel sandbox on the machine to the prod one now :)12:35
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cjwatsonLaney: So this is bug 527551 - I think for the meantime, *do not* copy from quantal-updates to raring-proposed12:41
ubot2Launchpad bug 527551 in Launchpad itself "Intra-archive copying of a source with a failed build may leave that source uncopyable" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52755112:41
LaneyFeels weird that the initial copy to raring-proposed worked fine, but yeah.12:43
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SpamapSFYI: I am copying openstack-resource-agents to quantal-updates despite it being Friday, and before the 7 days is up. The package is completely uninstallable w/o the update (which fixes dependencies) so the chance of regression is basically 0 (see bug 1078828 for more info)16:28
ubot2Launchpad bug 1078828 in openstack-resource-agents (Ubuntu Quantal) "[SRU] openstack-resource-agents uninstallable due to non-existant dependency" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107882816:28
stgrabercjwatson: hey. Edubuntu is planning to ship yet another squashfs on the install media for raring for Edubuntu Server. This squashfs will be taken directly from ubuntu-server so we don't need yet another livefs build. I've been poking at cdimage and debian-cd yesterday night and based on my reading, I "think" the following should work.16:31
stgrabercjwatson: debian-cd change: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1362959/16:31
stgrabercjwatson: cdimage change: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1362958/16:32
stgrabercjwatson: would appreciate if you could take a look as I'm not yet sure I understand all the cdimage magic ;)16:32
cjwatsonlooks plausible enough to me16:32
stgraberok, I'll push that and trigger a build then, I guess it'll be the easiest way of checking that it actually works :)16:33
cjwatsonyep16:34
stgraber(then I'll have to spend a few evenings getting ubiquity to support multiple source squashfs so we can get it to do a server install for us)16:34
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fgintherany reason why armel is missing from : http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/raring/Release?17:05
ogra-cbfginther, because its gone with raring17:06
ogra-cbwith 12.10  we stoppped building any images for it already, with 13.04 it was dropped completely17:08
fgintherogra-cb, thanks, that would explain it17:08
seb128^ ignore the g-s-d screwups, cleaned my own mess there17:15
infinityseb128: Maybe you should upload a few more of them...17:36
seb128infinity, or maybe not (I've a stupid script which retries when upload fail and which seems to sometime think uploads failed when they didn't)17:37
xnoxseb128: on dodgy connections use sftp upload, it's more reliable.17:57
seb128xnox, thanks, I should try that ;-)17:57
xnoxseb128: for big stuff i upload to a reliable host first (e.g. people.c.c) - and then upload to ubuntu/debian from that17:58
seb128xnox, yeah, I tend to do that to spare the upload time17:58
seb128wget the orig from the dc is and dput form there17:59
seb128easier than wgetting a big tarball on my dsl and having to upload it through the slower upload link later :-)17:59
infinityHey, queuebot, lolwut?19:47
infinitystgraber: queubot's very confused.19:47
infinitystgraber: It claims those copies to -security up there are going backward (they're not, it's comparing against proposed instead of security)19:48
stgraberinfinity: yeah, IIRC queuebot doesn't check the target pocket, it always shows the highest-version-in-the-archive => version-in-the-queue19:55
stgraberI guess I should fix that :)19:55
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infinityogra-cb: The new armhf livefs host is all set up, configured on cdimage, and I tested it with a core build that looks happy.22:35
infinityogra-cb: Go forth and kill it with builds.22:35
* ScottK just remembered we don't release SRUs on Friday. Sorry.23:39
ScottKFortunately I remembered before I got to LibreOffice.23:39
bdmurrayIf somebody could merge https://code.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/ubuntu-archive-tools/comments-after-nag/+merge/134759 that'd be groovy.23:46
* ScottK tries.23:48
ScottKbdmurray: Done.23:50
bdmurrayScottK: thanks23:51
ScottKYou're welcome.23:51
cjwatsonI fixed the kernel mis-overrides that resulted in a few image build failures.23:51
cjwatsonI suspect that there's something wrong in LP here - I've noticed a few things being wrongly in universe since we switched to proposed-migration.23:52
cjwatsonMaybe copy overrides aren't working right.23:52

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