[00:01] <iheartubuntu> does this photo link work? :) https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/12799_432391906809641_607759009_n.jpg
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[00:02] <iheartubuntu> announcement and instructions to come soon :)
[00:02] <philipballew> iheartubuntu, yeah
[00:03] <iheartubuntu> PPA too
[00:03] <philipballew> pm iheartubuntu ?
[00:10] <philipballew> how much money did you have to pay this guy/gal?
[00:10] <iheartubuntu> 20,000
[00:10] <iheartubuntu> rubles
[00:10] <iheartubuntu> haha
[00:10] <philipballew> everyone! iheartubuntu is rich
[00:10] <iheartubuntu> its from the chipin
[00:10] <iheartubuntu> so its only $100
[00:11] <philipballew> oh nice
[00:11] <iheartubuntu> he didnt do it for the money though
[00:11] <iheartubuntu> ok i wont say anything else :)
[01:01] <bkerensa> iheartubuntu: :)
[01:12] <iheartubuntu> article posted soon
[01:12] <iheartubuntu> please proliferate :)
[01:17] <bkerensa> iheartubuntu: proliferation is at full tilt http://benjaminkerensa.com/2012/11/15/wait-is-that-netflix-on-ubuntu
[01:17] <bkerensa> :)
[01:17] <darthrobot`> Title: [Wait is that Netflix on Ubuntu? - Benjamin Kerensa dot Com]
[01:20] <akk> Wow, netflix on ubuntu would be cool.
[01:20] <akk> Now I'm trying to figure out what that github repo is.
[01:20] <bkerensa> :P
[01:21] <iheartubuntu> holy cow
[01:21] <akk> It seems to be labels that look like movies for software projects that aren't at all related to the movie labels?
[01:21] <iheartubuntu> http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2012/11/netflix-on-ubuntu-is-here.html
[01:21] <darthrobot`> Title: [Netflix on Ubuntu Is Here | iheartubuntu]
[01:22] <bkerensa> iheartubuntu: now to post on OMG
[01:22] <bkerensa> :)
[01:22] <iheartubuntu> its not the easiest.
[01:22] <iheartubuntu> and it only works on 32 bit ubuntu unless you know how to compile WINE for 64 bit
[01:22] <iheartubuntu> but in a day or so the PPA will be available and none of these instructions will really be needed :)
[01:22] <bkerensa> psh
[01:23] <akk> Tweeted, iheartubuntu
[01:23] <bkerensa> a day or so
[01:23]  * bkerensa goes to make a ppa now
[01:24] <akk> Of course now that they've separated DVD and streaming, I long since stopped paying for streaming.
[01:24] <iheartubuntu> PPA is already made actually
[01:24] <iheartubuntu> just have to wait for Wine to accept some patches
[01:25] <iheartubuntu> then need to compile, upload to ppa, etc
[01:25] <iheartubuntu> steam plus this is going to change the landscape for ubuntu
[01:26]  * akk heads up to MV for the ubuntu hour
[01:29] <bkerensa> iheartubuntu: I wonder how long before Netflix blocks it though
[01:29] <iheartubuntu> i dont see why they would
[01:29] <bkerensa> one of my high school friends work in Global Escalations for Netflix and I have talked with their PR Director a few times and it seems clear they do not want it on Linux at all except for platforms they choose
[01:29] <iheartubuntu> it still uses silverlight so the DCMA is still in place
[01:30] <iheartubuntu> the PPA should make the Netflix for Ubuntu App integrated as if its a native Ubuntu app (as similar to what TeamViewer does)
[01:31] <iheartubuntu> i agree with you on the canonical point
[01:32] <iheartubuntu> added chipin widget
[01:33] <bkerensa> iheartubuntu: sending you traffic
[01:33] <bkerensa> :)
[01:38] <iheartubuntu> :) thumbs up
[01:41] <philipballew> raevol has arived
[01:42] <iheartubuntu> philipballew -> http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2012/11/netflix-on-ubuntu-is-here.html
[01:42] <darthrobot`> Title: [Netflix on Ubuntu Is Here | iheartubuntu]
[01:43] <iheartubuntu> ben are you there
[01:43] <bkerensa> iheartubuntu: yes
[01:43] <iheartubuntu> are there any negatives to posting the PPA if its not ready yet?
[01:44] <iheartubuntu> i mean the PPA can be added, but the programs wont be available to download yet
[01:44] <bkerensa> iheartubuntu: only that you might get people trying it who break their system and blame you
[01:44] <bkerensa> :)
[01:44] <iheartubuntu> :)
[01:45] <iheartubuntu> a PPA with no packages probably wont do much harm i would think
[01:45] <iheartubuntu> i just dont want to overload the system if the packages are trying to be uploaded to the server
[01:46] <bkerensa> I dont think it will overwhelm launchpad
[01:47] <bkerensa> iheartubuntu: and now people already saying its not Netflix on Ubuntu
[01:47] <bkerensa> :)
[01:48] <iheartubuntu> whered they say that?
[01:48] <bkerensa> <jcastro_> bkerensa: misleading headline
[01:48] <bkerensa> <jcastro_> that's just some wine thing!
[01:48] <bkerensa> in #ubuntu-community-team and other channels
[01:48] <bkerensa> :P
[01:49] <philipballew> nice
[01:50] <iheartubuntu> haha
[01:50] <iheartubuntu> castro
[01:50] <philipballew> nice guy
[01:50] <iheartubuntu> i didnt say ubuntu running natively
[01:50] <iheartubuntu> i mean netflix
[01:50] <iheartubuntu> running natively
[01:51] <bkerensa> :)
[01:52] <iheartubuntu> big traffic rightn ow
[01:53] <bkerensa> iheartubuntu: I imagine so... I am getting about 20+ new visits a second to my post
[01:53] <bkerensa> :D
[01:53] <bkerensa> I love GoSquared Real Time Analytics
[01:53] <kdub> very awesome iheartubuntu
[01:53] <iheartubuntu> and my poker game is going well too. a good day :)
[01:53] <bkerensa> iheartubuntu: who do you host with?
[01:54] <iheartubuntu> uuummmmm
[01:54] <iheartubuntu> blogger
[01:54] <bkerensa> LOL
[01:54] <bkerensa> wait
[01:54] <bkerensa> what?
[01:54] <bkerensa> :D
[01:54] <bkerensa> lawl
[01:54] <bkerensa> thats epic
[01:54] <bkerensa> :)
[01:54] <bkerensa> smart
[01:54] <iheartubuntu> ive wanted to move to wordpress but dont have time to figure it out and convert it all
[01:55] <iheartubuntu> as much as a dislike google :) :)
[01:56] <bkerensa> yeah converting would be something epic of a chore
[01:56] <iheartubuntu> my daily ubuntu site is a severely hacked blogger template too :) http://www.dailyubuntu.com/
[01:56] <darthrobot`> Title: [Daily Ubuntu News]
[01:57] <bkerensa> yeah I read it often
[01:59] <iheartubuntu> i made it so i dont have to go to everyones websites, and yet, i end up going to everyones websites
[02:00] <bkerensa> heh
[02:02] <bkerensa> iheartubuntu: how do you track traffic?
[02:02] <iheartubuntu> its built into blogger
[02:05] <iheartubuntu> i have my domains point to blogger by changing the cname and stuff
[02:06] <bkerensa> iheartubuntu: ahh you should check out google analytics real time?
[02:06] <kdub> philipballew, meandering down to pt loma...
[02:07] <iheartubuntu> do u pay for that?
[02:07] <iheartubuntu> i dont have time monitor. i barely have time to post these days
[02:07] <iheartubuntu> *time to
[02:09] <iheartubuntu> actually i better get going home. i have some allen edmond shoes waiting on the doorstep and want to get home before wifey opens the box!
[02:12] <philipballew> kdub, awesome. sweet!
[02:13] <bkerensa> iheartubuntu: nah you just add a javascript snippet then when you login to google analytics you can see real time traffic
[02:16] <iheartubuntu> ben have a good one. thanks for the traffic and thanks for all you do with ubuntu and with firefox! (and im sure im missing some projects)
[03:54] <bkerensa> iheartubuntu: so about to break the 1,500 views mark on that post
[03:54] <bkerensa> :D
[03:54] <bkerensa> sadly it seems I have only sent 242 hits to you
[03:54] <bkerensa> =/
[03:54] <iheartubuntu> i havent checked, but not bad!
[03:55] <iheartubuntu> Probably the wrong time to post the article
[03:55] <iheartubuntu> If I did it tomrrow AM it would have done bette
[03:55] <iheartubuntu> but people will find out
[03:55] <iheartubuntu> Im surprised people are complaining about this solution
[04:10] <bkerensa> iheartubuntu: yeah... now over 2k
[04:10] <bkerensa> I have 127 concurrent visitors
[04:11] <iheartubuntu> this is crazy
[04:11] <bkerensa> iheartubuntu: I think the most I have got is close to 20k in one day :D
[04:12] <iheartubuntu> did you do any articles about Steam?
[04:12] <bkerensa> on OMG yeah
[04:13] <bkerensa> iheartubuntu: http://i.imgur.com/VUzYv.png
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[04:13] <iheartubuntu> full screen works great too
[04:13] <bkerensa> ahh yeah :P
[04:13] <iheartubuntu> too bad I have 64 bit ubuntu here at home
[04:13] <bkerensa> 64 bit is win
[04:13] <iheartubuntu> did you get it working?
[04:13] <bkerensa> I have not tried it yet :)
[04:13] <bkerensa> I have been packing for vacation
[04:13] <bkerensa> I leave tomorrow
[04:14] <iheartubuntu> anywhere exciting?
[04:14] <iheartubuntu> i was hoping to go up to portland and seattle for thanksgiving
[04:15] <iheartubuntu> but wife has a biz trip instead
[04:16] <bkerensa> iheartubuntu: I'm going to Cape Arago on the Southern Oregon Coast
[04:16] <bkerensa> Puffin and Whale Watching
[04:16] <bkerensa> :D
[04:16] <bkerensa> and also the one place in the world that the Myrtle Tree still grows
[04:17] <iheartubuntu> must be nice there. whats the weather like up there right now?
[04:19] <bkerensa> iheartubuntu: cold and wet
[04:19] <bkerensa> :D
[04:26] <iheartubuntu> this is one of my bigger articles
[04:28] <iheartubuntu> you are posted to the planet? i never did figure that out
[04:41] <bkerensa> iheartubuntu: yeah
[04:41] <bkerensa> iheartubuntu: are you not on there?
[04:41] <iheartubuntu> no
[04:42] <iheartubuntu> never did figure it!
[04:42] <iheartubuntu> i'll get to it soon
[04:43] <bkerensa> iheartubuntu: if you want to e-mail me your rss url, name, and a photo that meets the requirements I can push it for you
[04:43] <iheartubuntu> what are the reqs
[04:44] <iheartubuntu> i'll look for it
[04:44] <iheartubuntu> need to get some sleep
[04:44] <iheartubuntu> :D
[05:00] <philipballew> pleia2,  a man at the Ubuntu hour today was talking about putting linux into sd school and then started saying he has been really following this group in sf called Partimus.
[05:01] <philipballew> I figured you should know you guys have a following
[05:16] <philipballew> bkerensa, agree with how its sad it only took 100 to get a netflix hack going.
[05:17] <akk> I think some of it is coincidence, putting out the challenge when someone with the appropriate skills happens to have time and energy.
[05:17] <akk> Doesn't necessarily take a lot of money.
[05:18] <bkerensa> ugh I need to get a Firefox hoodie soon its too cold now
[05:18]  * bkerensa shivers
[05:18]  * akk chuckles at philipballew's @DepressedDarth RT -- the Imperial March is an awesome soundtrack to anything.
[05:19] <akk> So, we had an interesting problem at tonight's Ubuntu Hour: someone wanted to export a spreadsheet in libreoffice to Excel format
[05:19] <akk> but the Export... dialog didn't have it, so I suggested it was probably a format option in Save as...
[05:20] <akk> so we tried Save as... (this is under Unity) and -- no dialog at all came up.
[05:20] <akk> Tried Export... again, still no dialog. We couldn't get any dialogs at all after that first one.
[05:20] <akk> Dialogs work fine on my libreoffice here at home under openbox (no unity intercepting menus and things).
[05:22] <philipballew> akk, Libreoffice is working fine for me. Might be a bug
[05:23] <akk> It's definitely a bug. Okay, maybe something wrong with the ubuntu install on that machine.
[05:24] <akk> Ah, a few other people have seen this too: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1070622
[05:24] <darthrobot`> Title: [Bug #1070622 ""Save As” Dialog Not Coming Up” : Bugs : “libreoffice” package : Ubuntu]
[05:30] <akk> Gah, trying to test it in virtualbox but virtualbox needs its kernel updated (why doesn't the package installer do that?)
[05:30] <akk> and pops up a dialog telling me to run a script that doesn't exist, /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[05:31] <akk> It also tells me to install the dkms package, which is already installed.
[05:34] <philipballew> see, my problem is whenever I see a "bug" I am never sure if this "bug" is really that or just harm I have caused to my system from me messing with it akk
[05:34] <akk> Heh, there is that.
[05:35] <philipballew> I mean, does something not work because I compiled x a few weeks back, or it it not working for a different reason. Hard for me to say
[05:35] <akk> This was actually d's machine, not the machine of the newcomer with the problem (he didn't bring one).
[05:35] <akk> But he only has that install for Ubuntu hours, I don't think he's mucked with it much.
[05:36] <akk> Oh well, time to give up and go watch part of a movie.
[05:36] <philipballew> nice
[17:24] <hotsauce1> a judge is about to rule today on farmers rights vs the high speed rail project...does anyone care?
[17:25] <hotsauce1> whoa whoa maybe wrong channel...
[17:28] <akk> Wonder what the right channel was? Is there a #ca-politics channel?
[18:15] <pleia2> hehe
[19:11] <dragon> Poor farmers are going to get run over by a high speed rail!
[19:12] <dragon> Yeah, I care about the farmers' rights to ride that high speed rail.
[19:19] <raevol> D:
[19:19] <raevol> so
[19:19] <raevol> wait
[19:19] <raevol> the farmers are complaining about losing land for the high speed rail line?
[19:19] <raevol> 2 things
[19:20] <raevol> 1. why aren't we building it where there's already freeway?
[19:20] <raevol> and 2. isn't it like a tiny fraction of their land?
[19:20] <pleia2> farmers always complain</fruit eating city-dweller>
[19:23] <raevol> i think that everyone should be ridiculously excited about HSR
[19:23] <raevol> it'll be such a boon to california
[19:24] <raevol> but isn't it like permanently stalled anyway?
[19:42] <iheartubuntu> PPA for netflix on ubuntu is almost done. having some issues with silverlight at the moment
[19:42] <jyo> Nice. Ubiquity actually installed Ubuntu alongside Windows 8 automagically.
[20:30] <philipballew> pleia2, so I logged into the fridge wp site with my openid from lp,
[20:31] <raevol> sup philipballew
[20:31] <philipballew> raevol, not much. Hows Friday?
[20:32] <raevol> pretty good
[20:32] <raevol> just had lunch, belly is full
[20:32] <raevol> and you?
[20:34] <philipballew> good, Just waiting for class to start. Hope the Ubuntu hour last night worked well
[20:34] <raevol> it was fun! sorry i could only stay for the hour
[20:34] <raevol> but it was good to see everyone and to catch up
[20:37] <philipballew> yeah, next month were gonna have a special hour. Same day, but just a few miles down the road so people from a sys admin conference can come thats at shelter island.
[20:38] <raevol> oh nice
[20:39] <raevol> this is december? i may not be able to make it, i'll be gone to a competition from the 11th to the 17th
[20:40] <philipballew> oh, not sure. gonna win big?
[20:40] <raevol> hopefully :)
[21:18] <bkerensa> raevol: it depends usually governments just end up buying the entire parcel of land using imminent domain
[21:19] <bkerensa> raevol: we are having a new rail built up here in Portland and they are buying everyones properties up whether they want to sell or not... unfortunately one or two people have reverse mortgages so when the government buys their property they will get no money and be homeless
[21:21] <raevol> i kind of have no problem with the govt buying land in order to improve the quality of life of everyone in the state
[21:21] <raevol> does suck about the reverse mortgages though
[21:49] <bkerensa> raevol: what if the improvement in quality of life is not consistent with the views of the majority of the population though?
[21:50] <bkerensa> raevol: In this situation both counties affected had polls that showed virtually no support for the new rail since our transit system is already in a major deficit and the new rail goes to a community that A) does not want it and B) its a small town so its not like they  are bridging a gap C) Rail creates crime
[21:51] <bkerensa> raevol: they literally are spending an extra $2 million to make the rail bridge play simon and garfunkel music which the transit agency has to pay lifetime royalties on
[21:51] <bkerensa> =/
[22:00] <raevol> bkerensa: well, if it doesn't improve the quality of life, they shouldn't do it
[22:00] <raevol> i'm pretty convinced the CA HSR line will improve CA
[22:02] <raevol> sounds like you have a different situation in oregon
[22:06] <bkerensa> raevol: what if the HSR ends up costing California more than it can bring in revenue? I mean Amtrak is already a constant loss nationwide for tax payers... Rail historically is nothing something that is sustainable under the fares that transit agencies charge
[22:06] <bkerensa> I know CalTrain gets a lot of money from the state for instance
[22:12] <raevol> i can't really speak for amtrak/caltrain
[22:12] <raevol> i know Bart in SF, whether or not it is profitable, is invaluable to the people who use it
[22:12] <raevol> and i think HSR would be too
[22:12] <raevol> i've been up to SF two or three times in the past 12 months
[22:12] <raevol> and if i could have taken HSR instead of driving, i would have
[22:20] <geofft> bkerensa: Caltrain gets money from whatever BART/SamTrans/VTA gives it, not directly from the state, I believe
[22:20] <geofft> http://www.caltrain.com/about/fiscalcrisis/fiscalcrisisFAQ.html
[22:20] <darthrobot`> Title: [Caltrain's Fiscal Crisis FAQ]
[22:21] <geofft> also, train service is more profitable the more service you have
[22:21] <geofft> I use Caltrain daily. Back when these pages were uploaded, they were talking about cutting daytime service
[22:21] <geofft> If they only had commute-hour service, I'd have bought a car and never used Caltrain
[22:23] <bkerensa> geofft: It gets money from SFMTA, SAMTrans and SCVTA which all get money from a fusion of funding from State, County and Federal governments plus their own district revenue
[22:23] <geofft> right
[22:23] <bkerensa> I think the Federal Govt is likely the biggest funding source
[22:30] <philipballew> who needs public transit for in the cities. Just ride a bike!
[22:31] <akk> geofft: But if a lot of those trains end up running empty, it doesn't help profitability.
[23:42] <dragon> ^ what is this I don't even
[23:43] <dragon> I've been trying to make it to the Ubuntu Hour in MV. It became easier since I reworked my schedule and freed up my evenings.
[23:43] <dragon> But then I ended up taking classes at college on Thursday nights. :<