[00:11] <TaraLS> Hello all. Can you please tell me what the command is to make compatible my programs?
[00:12] <TaraLS> My computer is freezing more now, and when I go into Dash, and Kilos told me a command to type to make sure all my installed stuffs were compatible, but I can't remember it.
[00:12] <TaraLS> nuvolari, ?
[00:22] <TaraLS> :(
[06:34] <Squirm2> hi
[08:11] <Symmetria> well? when you wanna make .za internet feel like 100gigabit
[08:11] <Symmetria> come work on the hotel wireless in tanzania for a day
[08:19] <Vince-0> FRAADAAY whoot
[09:02] <Kerbero> hehe
[09:03] <Kerbero> Symmetria, do you perhaps know of a relative cheap VPS solution in SA
[09:03] <Kerbero> preferably as close to sanren as possible
[09:25] <Vince-0> hetzner maybe? I tried paradigm.co.za for R99 but the servers aren't in SA
[09:27] <Kerbero> http://www.elitehost.co.za/vps
[09:27] <Kerbero> that one is the best i could find
[09:33] <superfly> that's not bad, it's comparable to linode
[09:52] <Kerbero> ok good to know
[09:52] <Kerbero> i would actually go for something with a bandwidth cap if it is hosted in CPT/at IS
[09:53] <Kerbero> *data cap
[09:56] <inetpro> superfly: hmm... our weak currency starting to hurt you at linode?
[09:56] <superfly> inetpro: nope
[09:57] <superfly> inetpro: currently the bottom of the range linode is R180/month, and the bottom of the range of those VPSes is R200/month, so they are comparable
[09:58] <inetpro> interesting times
[09:58] <inetpro> hope we will see a reduction of the local pricing soon
[09:58] <superfly> inetpro: VPSes in SA used to be MUCH more expensive
[09:58] <inetpro> exactly
[09:59] <inetpro> but our rand seems to be getting worse these days
[10:00] <Tonberry> wonder why...
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[11:54] <zeref_work> :YaawwwnnN:
[11:54] <TaraLS> Howdy.
[11:57] <zeref_work> herro TaraLS 
[12:12] <TaraLS> I will be back later.
[14:38] <zeref_Droid> hmmm
[14:47] <superfly> zeref_Droid: ?
[14:49] <zeref_Droid> Phone
[15:22] <Kilos> afternoon superfly  and others
[15:22] <Kilos> hi AndChat|15225 
[15:23] <Kilos> who you?
[15:31] <zeref_work> Yay
[15:31] <zeref_work> home time
[15:32] <Kilos> lol yaya why you owes go the andchat route
[15:32] <Kilos> cant them droids set nick?
[15:32] <zeref_work> i've not yet auto set the nick thingy
[15:33] <Kilos> ah
[15:33] <Kilos> well do it
[15:33] <Kilos> i always greet andchats
[15:33] <Kilos> sometimes its magespawn  now you too
[15:34] <zeref_work> :D
[15:34] <Kilos> lol
[15:49] <Kilos> inetpro, is jy al tuis??
[16:28] <mazal> Evening all
[16:36] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[16:36] <Kilos> was chatting tara on pidgin
[16:37] <mazal> Have a few minutes before starting archiving
[16:37] <Kilos> she has made her ubuntu 12.10 login without asking fo password
[16:37] <Kilos> so dont see grub menu
[16:38] <Kilos> so no option to memtest or recovery mode
[16:38] <mazal> System settings - user accounts - automatic login set to off
[16:38] <mazal> But that won't show the grub menu
[16:38] <Kilos> ah ty
[16:38] <Kilos> aw
[16:38] <mazal> Hold in shift while booting to see the menu
[16:38] <mazal> I think it is shift anyway
[16:38] <Kilos> ok ty will tell her
[16:38] <mazal> If memory serves
[16:38] <Kilos> lol
[16:39] <mazal> There is a way to show the menu everytime , but can't remember. It's a time-out setting somewhere in grub cfg I think
[16:40] <mazal> I read about it somewhere , never done it myself
[16:40] <mazal> I am gonna have to reboot now , gonna test the shift key thing for you
[16:40] <Kilos> ty
[16:41] <Kilos> ya i had to set it once some releases back but thats gone with the win now
[16:43] <mazal> They have changed it , shift don't work anymore
[16:43] <Kilos> aw
[16:43] <mazal> I double check my docs and it always was shift
[16:43] <inetpro> Kilos: dankie
[16:44] <mazal> Maaz, google show grub menu ubuntu 12.04
[16:44] <Maaz> mazal: "grub2 - How to enable GRUB menu on Ubuntu 12.04 server? - Ask ..." http://askubuntu.com/questions/166658/how-to-enable-grub-menu-on-ubuntu-12-04-server :: "12.04 - Grub menu won't show after installation (two-disk) - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/185579/grub-menu-wont-show-after-installation-two-disk :: "Grub2 - Community Ubuntu Documentation"
[16:44] <Maaz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 :: "Ubuntu 12.04 no GRUB interface at startup" http://www.l…
[16:44] <Kilos> inetpro, vir?
[16:44] <inetpro> Kilos: jou beep het my wakker laat skrik en laat huistoe skarrel
[16:44] <inetpro> het nog die laaste stukkie bloue hemels oor my gehad
[16:44] <Kilos> sjoe mooi dit sous hier
[16:44] <mazal> Maaz, google forgot password ubuntu 12.04
[16:44] <Maaz> mazal: "UBUNTU: Recover Login Password of Ubuntu 12.04" http://naveenubuntu.blogspot.com/2012/05/recover-login-password-of-ubuntu-1204.html :: "What is the default password for Ubuntu 12.04? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/189466/what-is-the-default-password-for-ubuntu-12-04 :: "12.04 - I seem to have forgoten my password - Ask Ubuntu"
[16:44] <Maaz> http://askubuntu.com/questions/137310/i-seem-to-have-forgoten-my-password :: "Recover Lost Password in Ub…
[16:45] <inetpro> hy het so al die pad huistoe agter my toegemaak
[16:45] <Kilos> wat gebeur me die dubbeltjies
[16:45] <Kilos> inetpro, ^
[16:46] <inetpro> hmm... goeie vraag... sal more oggend mooi inspekteer maar lyk op die oog af of die goed verdwyn
[16:46] <Kilos> mooi
[16:46] <Kilos> grasse geel geword
[16:46] <inetpro> glad nie wat ek verwag het nie
[16:46] <inetpro> miskien net so bietjie
[16:47] <Kilos> dit dooi nie word net bietjie geel
[16:47] <mazal> Oom Kilos the net still says hold down shift : http://askubuntu.com/questions/24006/how-do-i-reset-a-lost-administrative-password/24024#24024
[16:47] <Kilos> lol
[16:47] <inetpro> maar ek het selektief natgegooi
[16:47] <mazal> But it doesn't work on mine ???
[16:47] <Kilos> ty mazal 
[16:47] <Kilos> aw
[16:47]  * inetpro sal moet opvolg met nog 'n sproei
[16:48] <Kilos> so most likely wont work with tara either
[16:48] <Kilos> sigh
[16:48] <Kilos> miskien nie inetpro 
[16:48] <mazal> I see that guy says that the timing when you hit shift can be tricky
[16:48] <Kilos> spuit net waar hulle is
[16:49] <mazal> Looks like it must be "immediately after bios"
[16:49] <mazal> But there must be a setting in grub.cfg also I think
[16:49] <mazal> Maaz, google let grub menu show every time
[16:49] <Maaz> mazal: "openSUSE 12.2: Chapter 9. The Boot Loader GRUB" http://doc.opensuse.org/products/opensuse/openSUSE/opensuse-reference/cha.grub.html :: "Grub" http://www.softpanorama.org/Commercial_linuxes/Startup_and_shutdown/grub.shtml :: "How do I access the grub boot menu before it tries to load the - Quora" http://www.quora.com/How-do-I-access-the-grub-boot-menu-
[16:49] <Maaz> before-it-tries-to-load-the-operating-system :: "grub2 - Need Help With Fixing GRUB Dualboot Wi…
[16:50] <mazal> Maaz, google let grub menu show every time ubuntu
[16:50] <Maaz> mazal: "How do I access the grub boot menu before it tries to load the - Quora" http://www.quora.com/How-do-I-access-the-grub-boot-menu-before-it-tries-to-load-the-operating-system :: "grub2 - Windows 7 and Ubuntu 11.04 Dual boot, grub menu not ..." http://askubuntu.com/questions/216188/windows-7-and-ubuntu-11-04-dual-boot-grub-menu-not-showing :: "Grub menu not
[16:50] <Maaz> waiting despite of GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/191686/grub…
[16:51] <inetpro> Kilos: why you want to see the grub menu?
[16:51] <Kilos> so tara can choose recovery after doing something wrong inetpro 
[16:51] <Kilos> and do memtes
[16:51] <inetpro> ahh
[16:52] <Kilos> her dash is hanging
[16:52] <inetpro> but you don't need that very often
[16:52] <inetpro> ai
[16:52] <Kilos> she expects it to search for everything
[16:52] <mazal> Oi no , all those didn't help
[16:53] <inetpro> Kilos: hier kom die reen nou
[16:53] <Kilos> told her it a launcher not a serch tool
[16:53] <Kilos> i always have my grub menu visible
[16:53] <Kilos> the recovery works well
[16:54] <Kilos> fixes stupid mistakes
[16:55] <inetpro> Kilos: like what?
[16:56] <Kilos> shoe i cant member now
[16:56] <Kilos> havent needed it for a while
[16:56] <Kilos> 12.04 unity is pretty reliable
[16:59] <Kilos> i go eat quick
[17:00] <mazal> gtg for now
[17:19] <mazal> How do I do that thing where I leave a message for someone with Maaz ?
[17:19] <Kilos> tell
[17:19] <Kilos>     maaz tell so and so
[17:19] <Maaz> Kilos: I don't know who so is. Say 'so on freenode' and I'll take your word that so exists
[17:19] <mazal> Ah oom Kilos it's actually you I'm looking for
[17:20] <Kilos> lol im here
[17:20] <Kilos> tummy fuuuull
[17:20] <mazal> That was fast !!!
[17:20] <Kilos> food isnt a toy
[17:20] <Kilos> i dont play with it
[17:20] <mazal> I got the grub menu now by continuously tapping the shift key when booting , not holding it in
[17:21] <Kilos> ah ty i will tell her if/when she awakes
[17:23] <Kilos> dankie mazal 
[17:23] <mazal> plz oom
[17:23] <Kilos> what are the 12.10 options for desktop interface? unity and ?
[17:24] <mazal> Just unity
[17:24] <mazal> Everything else gone
[17:24] <Kilos> oh no gnome3
[17:24] <mazal> Nope
[17:24] <Kilos> oh my
[17:24] <mazal> 12.10 bad
[17:24] <mazal> I'm back on 12.04
[17:24] <Kilos> i told her there are different options
[17:24] <Kilos> didnt knows everything was dropped
[17:25] <mazal> You will prob be able to add it yourself , but I wouldn't dump a new user into that
[17:26] <Kilos> ya
[17:26] <Kilos> i see they dropping alternate cds as well
[17:26] <Kilos> no more upgrading from cd
[17:27] <mazal> Personally I think I am gonna stay on 12.04 until the next LTS
[17:28] <Kilos> i will try 12.10 on another drive so i can see what she is seeing
[17:28] <mazal> I had many probs with it
[17:28] <Kilos> hard helping someone with a later release than you
[17:28] <Kilos> oh
[17:29] <Kilos> she has a few but only dash giving probs now
[17:29] <Kilos> she had
[17:30] <Kilos> she got by with a little help from my friends
[17:30] <mazal> What's she struggling with dash ?
[17:30] <Kilos> actually her hardware is giving probs not 12.10
[17:31] <Kilos> she has typed something in there it cant find now it hangs all the time
[17:31] <Kilos> i think recovery mode will fix it
[17:31] <mazal> 12.10 has loads of lag , ven on my new pc
[17:32] <mazal> even
[17:32] <Kilos> she has a dual core with 4g ram and 5g swap
[17:32] <Kilos> so happy with the speed
[17:33] <Kilos> i got her to partition it my way. will try paste it somewhere if i can find an image thing
[17:33] <Kilos> im sure not everyone will like my way
[17:34] <Kilos> wb Vince-0 
[17:34] <Vince-0> haai
[17:34] <mazal> Now why would my usb3 drive not mount in my usb3 port , grrrrrrrrrrr
[17:35] <Kilos> ai
[17:35] <Kilos> i have that prob with external
[17:35] <Kilos> wont mount in from 2 ports
[17:35] <mazal> On usb2 port it works
[17:35] <Kilos> front
[17:35] <mazal> But not on usb3
[17:35] <mazal> But it's a usb3 drive
[17:35] <Kilos> usb3 and 4 are high speed ones
[17:35] <Kilos> 1 and 2 are slower
[17:36] <Kilos> on old machine anyway
[17:36] <mazal> That's why I want to use it in the usb3 port , for the speed
[17:36] <Kilos> put it in and reboot
[17:36] <Kilos> sometimes that helps
[17:38] <mazal> I wonder if it is because there is a usb2 drive in the other usb3 port
[17:38] <Kilos> other usb3
[17:39] <Kilos> how many usb3's you got
[17:39] <mazal> Yes there is 2 usb3 ports
[17:39] <Kilos> oh my
[17:39] <Kilos> not 3 and 4
[17:39] <mazal> The rest is usb2
[17:39] <Kilos> mine go 1 2 3 4
[17:39] <Kilos> 5 6
[17:39] <mazal> Yeah I got 6 ports as well
[17:39] <Kilos> i think
[17:40] <mazal> 2x usb3 and 4x usb2
[17:40] <Kilos> desktop?
[17:40] <Kilos> sjoe
[17:40] <mazal> and 2 more at the front
[17:40] <Kilos> i dont member where you paste pictures too
[17:41] <Kilos> sigh
[17:41] <Kilos> ah imageshack
[17:41] <Kilos> i think
[17:42] <mazal> So the 1 usb3 port has a usb2 drive in , and I wonder if that bothers the usb3 drive in the 2nd port
[17:42] <Kilos> swap it
[17:42] <Kilos> use mouse and keyboard in the slow ones
[17:42] <mazal> Gonna disconnect it as soon as I am done with archiving and see
[17:43] <Kilos> ah
[17:43] <Kilos> my desktop has gone blank
[17:43] <Kilos> empty and there was lots stuff on
[17:43] <Kilos> sigh
[17:43] <mazal> oh boy
[17:43] <Kilos> lol
[17:43] <Kilos> i miss maverick
[17:44] <Kilos> but no one can say i havent given unity a fair go
[17:45] <mazal> I actually like unity
[17:45] <mazal> Struggle without it
[17:45] <Kilos> its ok
[17:45] <mazal> I find things much faster with it
[17:45] <Kilos> slower than gnome2
[17:45] <Kilos> and kde
[17:46] <magespawn_> evening all
[17:46] <mazal> Lo magespawn
[17:46] <Kilos> hi magespawn all good?
[17:46] <magespawn_> hey have a tail, cannot get to my quassel core reliable tonight for some reason
[17:47] <Kilos> i gonna run backup and see if stuff comes back to desktop
[17:47] <magespawn_> so i am using seamonkey caht
[17:47] <Kilos> uh oh
[17:47] <magespawn_> chat even
[17:48] <Kilos> i think the missing desktop stuff is because of working with sick drives in here today
[17:49]  * Banlam returns Kilos' greeting from the previous night
[17:49] <Banlam> and hello to mazal and magespawn too
[17:49] <Kilos> hahaha ty Banlam 
[17:49] <mazal> Hi Banlam
[17:49] <magespawn_> inetpro how do i find the man pages for aliases?
[17:49] <magespawn_> hey Banlam
[17:50] <Kilos> he is inna lurking mood today
[17:50] <Kilos> tonight
[17:50] <mazal> Hmm , only the usb3 drive connected now , still don't work in the usb3 port
[17:50] <Kilos> oh my
[17:50] <mazal> I wonder if this is a Ubuntu driver thing
[17:50] <Kilos> boot with it plugged in
[17:50] <Kilos> maybe
[17:50] <Kilos> in bios
[17:51] <Kilos> usg um legacy support not enabled
[17:51] <Kilos> usb
[17:51] <mazal> fdisk doesn't even see it
[17:51] <Kilos> check your bios
[17:51] <Kilos> usb legacy support in advanced section
[17:52] <mazal> ok , rebooting again :P
[17:53] <Kilos> hi magtie 
[17:53] <magtie> Hi Kilos
[17:53] <magtie> Jy's vinnig vannaand
[17:53] <Kilos> ek watch jou
[17:53] <Kilos> hehe
[17:54] <Kilos> ek ws hier besig om te wag en sien of mazal regkom
[17:54] <Kilos> eks altyd vinnig behalwe as ek stadig is
[17:55] <magtie> ha
[17:55] <Kilos> magespawn, how did the trip go?
[17:56] <magespawn_> which one? the ones for monday changed
[17:56] <magespawn_> oh you mean yesterdays
[17:56] <Kilos> the long trip
[17:56] <Kilos> have i missed out a coupla days?
[17:56] <Kilos> oh my
[17:56] <Kilos> 900 ks
[17:57] <Kilos> that was you hey?
[17:57] <Kilos> Maaz, seen superfly 
[17:57] <Maaz> Kilos: superfly was last seen 3 hours, 10 minutes and 40 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-11-16 06:47:11 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2012-11-06 22:15:23 PST
[17:57] <magespawn_> that was for monday, yes was me, but that has been changed due to organisation and times
[17:58] <Kilos> ah 
[17:59] <magespawn_> so only one trip not three so only 480 kms now, walk in the park now
[18:00] <Kilos> thats better
[18:00] <magespawn_> if i am doing this right it looks like i do not have man installed
[18:00] <Kilos> not good for ballies to have to travel far
[18:00] <Kilos> must be
[18:00] <Kilos> they install with each package or app
[18:00] <magespawn_> apparently not
[18:01] <Kilos> what did you want man ?
[18:01] <magespawn_> alias
[18:01] <Kilos> nope no entry
[18:02] <Kilos> oh but i dont have it installed
[18:02] <Kilos> whats aliases
[18:03] <magespawn_> you can aliase commands so that you type one thing and a whole load of things happen
[18:03] <magespawn_> alias
[18:03] <Kilos> oh my
[18:03] <Kilos> thats frightening
[18:05] <magespawn_> so "sudo aptitude install package" would be install "package", at least that is what i understand
[18:05] <Kilos> oh like raw linux
[18:06] <Kilos> i think tinycore is like that
[18:06] <Kilos> forgotten already
[18:06] <magespawn_> ty kilos
[18:07] <magespawn_> you solved it
[18:07] <Kilos> for what?
[18:07] <magespawn_> i did not have alias installed
[18:07] <Kilos> oh my
[18:07] <Kilos> lol
[18:08] <magespawn_> inetpro solved it see logs
[18:09] <Kilos> wb mazal 
[18:10] <mazal> Didn't work
[18:10] <mazal> The bios doesn't even seem to see it
[18:10] <mazal> But it's such a strange bios it's hard to tell
[18:11] <magespawn> right now this is me 
[18:11] <mazal> I even have a mouse pointer in the bios lol
[18:11] <mazal> Never seen that
[18:11] <magespawn> are you using the front ports?
[18:11] <mazal> nope magespawn , rears
[18:12] <mazal> In the usb3 ports it doesn't work , but it works in the usb2 port
[18:12] <magespawn> hmm\
[18:12] <mazal> And I know it's not the port cause my other usb3 works
[18:12] <mazal> Looks to me like a thing between the board and the drive itself
[18:13] <Kilos> whats on the drive
[18:13] <mazal> I picked up another error on my internal now while viewing fdisk
[18:13] <magespawn> is it a usb 3 drive?
[18:13] <mazal> yep magespawn
[18:13] <magespawn> strange
[18:13] <mazal> very
[18:14] <Kilos> what bios mazal 
[18:14] <mazal> But I have heard that usb3 can be tempremental
[18:14] <magespawn> have not used one yet
[18:14] <Kilos> lsusb
[18:14] <mazal> I am now more concerned about the error on the internal
[18:15] <magespawn> what was it?
[18:15] <magespawn> the error i mean
[18:15] <Kilos> what was the message
[18:15] <mazal> "Partition 2 does not start on physical sector boundary"
[18:15] <mazal> Should I be concerend ?
[18:15] <Kilos> sudo touch /forcefsck
[18:15] <Kilos> wll sort it on boot
[18:15] <magespawn> wow lets google
[18:16] <mazal> and df -h does not show sda2 mounted to anything
[18:17] <Kilos> you never see /sda2
[18:17] <magespawn> http://askubuntu.com/questions/156994/partition-does-not-start-on-physical-sector-boundary
[18:17] <Kilos> try gparted and see
[18:17] <mazal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1363191/
[18:18] <magespawn> looks like it is not serious
[18:19] <mazal> fdisk shows sda2 as a fairly big partition , but it's not used by anything according to df -h
[18:20] <mazal> And I only created / and /home and swap during install
[18:20] <mazal> I didn't create a 3rd partition
[18:20] <Kilos> mine doesnt show /sda2
[18:20] <Kilos> never seen it
[18:20] <mazal> 1 ,4 and 5 was created by me
[18:21] <Kilos> how do you partition
[18:21] <mazal> Ai , wat gaan aan vandag
[18:21] <magespawn> did you read the link?
[18:21] <Kilos>  .    / /bbot and /home
[18:21] <Kilos> boot
[18:22] <mazal> gparted shows sda2 and 5 same size , 5 under 2 and 2 is home
[18:22] <mazal> This doesn't look right
[18:23] <mazal> Kilos: / , /home and /data
[18:23] <Kilos> no /boot
[18:23] <Kilos> i do / /bbot /home /storage /spare
[18:23] <Kilos> boot not bbot
[18:24] <Kilos> spose storage and data same thing
[18:24] <Kilos> '
[18:24] <mazal> I read it magespawn
[18:24] <Kilos> if my desktop files would come back ill show how i got tara to do hers
[18:25] <magespawn> and any help?
[18:25] <mazal> Like you said , doesn't sound like a problem
[18:25] <mazal> Where can I paste this gparted pic ?
[18:25] <Kilos> imageshack
[18:26] <Kilos> .uk i think
[18:26] <Kilos> Maaz, google imageshack
[18:26] <Maaz> Kilos: "ImageShack® - Online Photo and Video Hosting" http://imageshack.us/ :: "ImageShack® - Register" http://imageshack.us/v_images.php :: "ImageShack® - Online Photo and Video Hosting" http://my.imageshack.us/ :: "ImageShack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ImageShack :: "ImageShack - Blog" http://blog.imageshack.com/ ::
[18:26] <Maaz> "ImageShack | CrunchBase Profile" http://www.crunchbase.com/company/imageshack :: "imageshackap…
[18:26] <Kilos> oh .us
[18:29] <Kilos> wbb nou nou. gotta find desktop stuff
[18:29] <mazal> Now I must first register
[18:31] <mazal> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/mazhdd.jpg/
[18:32] <mazal> Look at sda2 and 5. It looks like it is the same thing but on different partitions
[18:35] <mazal> Did you find it oom Kilos ?
[18:36] <Kilos> ya did fsck on boot and all back
[18:36] <Kilos> sec i go to imageshack
[18:37] <smile4ever> hoi :)
[18:37] <mazal> I pasted my drive pic there , 2 and 5 looks weird. Looks like it's the same thing but on different partitions
[18:37] <mazal> Hi smile4ever
[18:39] <Kilos> http://imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img823/9923/ubuntupartitionsfinishe.jpg
[18:39] <Kilos> hi smile
[18:39] <Kilos> she kept mailing me each spep what she wqas seeing
[18:39] <Kilos> kept nagging what about all my free spacew
[18:40] <Kilos> lol 
[18:40] <smile4ever> mazal: I love you :p
[18:40] <Kilos> winsucks peeps
[18:40] <Kilos> hi smile4ever 
[18:40] <smile4ever> Kilos: :)
[18:40] <mazal> Sjoe 
[18:41] <Kilos> give link again mazal 
[18:41] <magespawn> hey smile4ever
[18:41] <mazal> smile4ever, somme stumped me now :P
[18:41] <magespawn> looks okay to me
[18:41] <mazal> Kilos: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/mazhdd.jpg/
[18:41] <Kilos> 12.10 wouldnt accept /root of 30g
[18:41] <smile4ever> mazal: you are honored ;)
[18:41] <smile4ever> magespawn: hi! :D
[18:42] <Kilos> oh mazal  that is it
[18:42] <Kilos> 2 is the extended part and 5 is whats in it
[18:42] <mazal> Kilos, why do you guys make a seperate /boot ?
[18:42]  * smile4ever is updating some articles on Wikipedia :)
[18:43] <Kilos> sjoe i was told to do it that way back on 9.10
[18:43] <Kilos> i think
[18:43] <Kilos> but better with / and /boot seperate
[18:43] <Kilos> i think
[18:44] <mazal> Why ?
[18:44] <magespawn> keeps the data sperate from the working parts of the os
[18:44] <Kilos> ask no questions hear no lies
[18:44] <mazal> I get /home cos makes re-install a breeze
[18:44] <Kilos> i dunno
[18:44] <magespawn> boots generally fail more often
[18:44] <Kilos> ya i format / and /boot on every install
[18:45] <Kilos> but boot-repair fixes boot probs lekker
[18:45] <Kilos> you havent got boot-repair hey
[18:45]  * smile4ever does everything in one partition (except for swap of course :p )
[18:46] <smile4ever> but I would better use /home too :p
[18:46] <Kilos> http://www.techlw.com/2012/02/install-yannubuntu-boot-repair-on.html
[18:46] <mazal> Only time I have boot issues is when I break something
[18:46] <smile4ever> mazal: every day? :)
[18:46] <Kilos> having a seperate /home is handy it keeps all your settings etc
[18:47] <mazal> I try and keep it to less than 4 times a week smile4ever :P
[18:47] <Kilos> mazal, boot repair fixes them
[18:47] <Kilos> ask magespawn it be good
[18:47] <mazal> Ya seperate home has made things much easier for me on many occasions
[18:48] <mazal> Separte home and remastersys iso , I don't work without those 2
[18:48] <Kilos> see your /home is in /sda2
[18:48] <Kilos> thats just the cover
[18:48] <magespawn> lets you keep your data without too much stress
[18:49] <Kilos> magespawn, how did you see taras drive
[18:49]  * mazal is a bit overkill when it comes to backups
[18:49] <Kilos> i cant see the thing
[18:49] <magespawn> yup 
[18:49] <Kilos> too small
[18:49] <smile4ever> mazal: lol ;)
[18:50] <smile4ever> I'm running fine for over a week :)
[18:50] <Kilos> a week
[18:50] <Kilos> hehe
[18:50] <smile4ever> on the "bleeding edge" (lol) Bodhi Linux :P
[18:50] <mazal> Stick , external , weekly archive
[18:50] <magespawn> thats a cool one smile4ever
[18:51] <smile4ever> I love bodhi linux :)
[18:51] <mazal> Never worked on that one
[18:53] <magespawn> very smooth i thought
[18:54] <Kilos> magespawn, help man
[18:54]  * mazal takes break
[18:54] <Kilos> why cant i see thatimageshack thing full size
[18:55] <magespawn> sorry click on the picture
[18:55] <smile4ever> magespawn: yes indeed :D now it is :p
[18:55] <Kilos> oh
[18:55] <smile4ever> a few years ago, it was buggy :p
[18:55] <smile4ever> and useless :p
[18:55] <Kilos> oh ya ty
[18:55] <smile4ever> (I used the second version or so :p )
[18:55] <Kilos> nice drive hey
[18:55] <Kilos> 1TB
[18:56] <Kilos> im struggling here to fix a 2 TB
[18:56] <Kilos> they big bucks so worth lotsa effort
[18:57] <Kilos> she asks me why storage and spare
[18:57] <Kilos> so i said storage for backups and important things
[18:57] <Kilos> and spare for not important
[18:57] <Kilos> she says like what
[18:57] <Kilos> i said winsucks stuff
[18:57] <Kilos> she cracked
[18:59] <Kilos> i go crash now guys. sleep tight
[19:01] <mazal> ib
[19:06]  * mazal gonna go watch some sport news
[19:06] <mazal> Sleep well everyone
[19:06] <mazal> God bless
[19:07] <smile4ever> won't they always love you? :(
[19:07] <smile4ever> "Where do broken hearts go" - whitney houston :)
[19:33] <smile4ever> byee :p
[19:57] <timkeller> Anyone in #ubuntu-za on this app.net thing?
[20:04] <superfly> app.net?
[20:09] <magespawn> never heard of it
[20:13] <magespawn> https://join.app.net/ and http://readwrite.com/2012/10/03/five-reasons-to-join-appnet-now
[20:13] <magespawn> that one timkeller
[20:13] <magespawn> ?
[20:13] <timkeller> Yep magespawn
[20:13] <timkeller> Its the anti-twitter
[20:13] <magespawn> have to pay though $36 a year
[20:14] <timkeller> or $5 a month
[20:14] <magespawn> kind of like the first option
[20:16] <magespawn> sounds like a developers dream that together with something like kickstarter
[20:16] <magespawn> could build a business nicely
[20:17] <magespawn> nice way to fund a hobby
[20:17] <timkeller> Yeah indeedy
[20:18] <magespawn> good finacial incentive to learn how to program
[20:18] <magespawn> financial even
[20:22] <magespawn> i am off, night all
[20:31] <superfly> oh right
[20:31] <superfly> I'd rather just use identica then
[23:08] <sakhi> Morning