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LordThumperzvacet: No from dvd00:00
bkc_Xabster: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=93010100:00
ikonia"event"00:00
delinquentmeJordan_U, Not bad.00:00
Xabstergod bless you, bkerensa00:00
Xabsterbkc_00:00
zvacetLordThumper: did you install grub on mbr or somewhere else?00:00
bkc_ikonia: if you read what he said anything about event... only to simulate a video-stream from a v4l-device...00:01
dandamanwhat are the recommended hardware specs for 12?00:01
delinquentmeJordan_U, no need for grep eh?00:01
LordThumperzvacet: Well sometimes grub comes up and booting00:01
ikoniabkc_: now that is very useful and I didn't know about that, although reading the docs on it it won't simulate hardware, just the streaming00:01
LordThumperThen when I choose Ubuntu it stalls at the black screen again00:01
dandamani have a 4gb laptop with a centrino chip(i forget the clockrate) and its pretty slugish00:01
Xabsterikonia: where will the stream go then?00:01
LordThumperwhen booting*00:01
ikoniaXabster: I have no idea, I've never seen this software00:01
ikoniabkc_ is the one who pointed you at it00:01
dandamansignificantly slower to where using anything before unity is a much better option00:01
david89Hello. How do I get a program to print all output to the terminal AND to a file?00:01
Jordan_Udelinquentme: Not if what you need to do is covered by shell globbing.00:02
bkc_ikonia: it is really useful indeed; and no, it doesn't simulate a real hw-device, but that wasn't the question at hand either :)00:02
zvacetLordThumper: maybe graphic is problem00:02
Jordan_Udavid89: command | tee /path/to/file00:02
LordThumperOk, rebooted a couple of times, and I am getting a full text message now00:02
ikoniabkc_: he said "I'd like to simulate having a web cam plugged in" - I took that as "I'd like to simulate having the hardware"00:02
LordThumper"Starting virtual printing daemon"00:02
david89Jordan_U: thanks ;)00:02
Jordan_Udavid89: You're welcome.00:02
LordThumperAnd "Ok" on the far right00:02
ikoniaa video streaming device node, no problem00:02
bkc_Xabster: the stream will go to a virtual v4l-device (v4l://) any even remotely good streaming-app (e.g. VLC) would pick it up automagically. otherwise it's in /dev/v4l2/<device> :)00:03
Xabsterikonia: what i more specifically is to read from a "file descriptor" and the data should be a video stream like the stuff from a webcam00:03
Xabsterthe actualy ubuntu recognizing the hardware is not needed00:03
ambro718How can I determine if a certain package has had a certain patch applied?00:03
ikoniaXabster: from what I'm reading it should create a device file, no problem00:03
Xabstergreat stuff00:03
Xabsternext question: is the openjdk 7 in the repos broken?00:04
Xabsteri get 404 error through the software center00:04
bkc_ikonia: easily missunderstood :) however on a sidenote, simulating a simple hw-device as a webcam is really simple to create :)00:04
Xabsteralso my updates failed00:04
bkc_Xabster: probably a dead repo-mirror, try changing to another :)00:05
ikoniabkc_: I disagree, the device nodes and such, sure no problem, but actual hardware, Hmmmm00:05
bkc_ikonia: no problem :)00:05
bkc_give my the specs and a few hours :P00:05
TomyLobobkc_ almost without a hitch. i DID have to reinstall nvidia-current and reboot. but now it works again, without the nvidia.com driver00:05
cillippociao!00:05
TomyLobothanks for the help so far00:05
Xabsterbkc_, how do i change that in the software center?00:05
ikoniabkc_: get it written, I'm sure people would find it useful00:05
bkc_TomyLobo: great :D00:05
Xabsteri'm only taking "provided by unbuntu" stuff00:05
TomyLoboi will be too, from now on :D00:06
Jordan_Udelinquentme: By the way, I highly recommend reading http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls .00:06
bkc_Xabster: software center -> preferences iirc, I usually change /etc/apt/repositories.conf (or somthing like that) by hand in vim thou ^.^00:06
bkc_changed* (not actually on ubuntu anymore)00:07
veryhappythank you all00:07
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zvacetXabster: software center >edit>software sources00:07
TomyLobobkc_ should i try nvidia-experimental-304?00:07
ikoniawhy change if it's working00:07
bkc_TomyLobo: does the non-experimental work?00:07
TomyLobocause i have no 3d acceleration?00:07
ikoniawhy break (potentially) something that you are working on ?00:07
TomyLobo"cogs" from the humble bundle doesn't work00:07
ChartaxNouveau is incompatible with my video card, it is a sorry state of affairs.00:08
ikoniaI suspect it's not using the nvidia module then00:08
ChartaxMakes installing Ubuntu kind of difficult00:08
TomyLoboChartax text mode install :)00:08
bkc_TomyLobo: I currently use 304 without any problems on Arch Linux, and it's just a re-packaged nvidia-blob so I don't see how they could be different :)00:08
bkc_TomyLobo: If you need 304, shoot... if you're happy with ubuntu's "stable" then don't :)00:09
TomyLobothe thing is: supposedly there should be a "Restricted drivers available" popup00:09
Xabsterhah, i changed to "main server" instead of "danish server" and now there's 178 updates and openjdk 7 is available00:09
TomyLobobut there was only one for my wireless00:09
bkc_Xabster: great, danish repo-mirror is probably down atm then :)00:09
bkc_TomyLobo: what gfx-card do you have?00:10
TomyLobothis laptop is pretty new too00:10
TomyLobogt 630m00:10
bkc_what laptop?00:10
TomyLobolenovo ideapad z58000:10
bkc_I'm guessing you also have an integrated intel gfx-card right?00:10
TomyLobouhm00:11
TomyLobopossibly00:11
TomyLobois that called UMA?00:11
TomyLoboi've seen that in the bios setup00:11
bkc_not that I know of...00:11
bkc_TomyLobo: you need bumblebee on that one :) Nvidia Optimus crap...00:12
bkc_TomyLobo: http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Linux-on-Lenovo-Z580-Anyone/td-p/799161 <-- read this one :)00:12
TomyLobo"The only proper solution is to have a BIOS option to disable Optimus and choose the dedicated card only."00:13
TomyLoboi might try that :)00:13
psusiis there a way to find out what process owns a window?00:13
bkc_psusi: yes :)00:13
psusibkc_, go on?00:13
spldartI'm a debian head. I want to install something on a friends laptop that is much more simple and I'm told can really help for somebody that isn't compy savvy. Can Ubuntu be set not needing an account and password like an unsecured and very vulnerable XP install?00:14
psusispldart, yes, you can enable auto login00:14
ikoniaI've rarley seen someone try as hard to be cool00:14
spldartHe just wants to turn it on and star browsing the web00:14
dr_willisspldart:  you can set auto login. but you still want a username/password00:14
ikoniaspldart: you can do that on debian just fine00:14
spldartauto login... Something in the repos?00:14
ikoniaspldart: as a debian head, I'm surprised you're not aware of that00:14
dr_willisspldart:  its a feature of lightdm00:14
jribspldart: it's just an option for lightdm00:15
psusisomething in the gnome control panel ;)00:15
maslohi guys would anyone be able to tell me why I can't manage to do this math in a bash script  mbfree=$(($memfree*0.0009765625))00:15
dr_willisspldart:  or try some of the google-chromeos disrtos if thats all he needs.00:15
maslosays 970300*0.0009765625: syntax error: invalid arithmetic operator (error token is ".0009765625")00:15
spldartI'm more of a debian fluxbox and make it hard for anyone else use my machine kinda guy00:15
ikoniathat dosn't make it hard00:15
bkc_spldart: you can turn off passwords for most stuff (except installing packages) :)00:15
jribmaslo: use spaces: $(( blah ))00:15
maslojrib: hold on let me try00:15
spldartwell.. he also wants to maybe skype or whatever too.00:15
bkc_psusi: working on it :)00:15
psusibkc_, so *how* do you figure out what process owns a window?00:15
psusihehe00:15
psusiI keep getting a frigging popup asking for my password randomly, and it's pissing me off to no end00:16
spldartI'm gonna hafta get a module loaded for the built in camera too.00:16
dr_willisspldart:  you may want to set up Lubuntu for him. its old skool look similer to old windows.00:16
spldartOHH00:16
spldartthat sounds good00:16
maslosame error 970300*0.0009765625 : syntax error: invalid arithmetic operator (error token is ".0009765625 ")00:16
bkc_psusi: http://superuser.com/questions/251226/determine-which-process-belongs-to-which-window-in-linux-system-monitor00:16
maslofor dad=$(( $memfree*0.0009765625 ))00:16
maslo;x00:16
spldartOld windows look will help ALOT!00:16
spldartHe's like 55 years old and not part of the compy or game gen...00:17
spldartI'm 44 but have thrived on technology since I was a kid.00:17
psusibkc_, nice... now is there a magic key to stop a damn window from locking the keyboard input focus? ;)00:17
dr_willislubuntu us about as light and simple, yet with most features peoples need.00:17
smjcan I turn font hinting off in NetBeans?00:17
bkc_maslo: bash can't handle float-point arithmetics, use calc or some other command-line calculator for that :) (or use zsh if you're pro ;P)00:17
jribmaslo: what's the "for" for... what are you trying to do ?00:17
spldartThough more electronics. I did some junior dev work and mentor'd google summer of code a couple years00:18
bkc_psusi: ... that is another question... that I actually don't know the answer too :P00:18
spldartAnywho... Thanks for the options! :)00:18
maslodoing a dynamic motd for a VPS with some basic info mem free is in kb and I want it in mb00:18
jribmaslo: oh right, I was testing in zsh.  Never mind then.00:19
tom89a little help on getting programs from cd00:19
bkc_maslo: sure, use mbfree=`calc $memfree*0.0009765625`00:19
bkc_maslo: also install calc :)00:19
spldart<ikonia> Watch a low brow windows neophyte try to navigate fluxbox can be entertaining. Not that all windows heads are low brow... just say'n00:19
maslobkc_: sounds good, trying it right away thank you I appreciate it :P00:20
ikoniaspldart: stop spewing crap00:20
spldartBut they tend to be more confy with kde or something00:20
bkc_maxb: no problem :)00:20
spldartwhat crap ikonia?00:20
ikoniaeverything00:20
spldartwhat everything00:20
spldartLemme guess... Your the troll of the channel ;)00:21
nicofsI just installed Google Earth - but I can't see the maps. All is grey, with borders and labels on top. Any Ideas how to fix this?00:21
tom89once a month I get a magazine called Linuxuser it comes with a CD which has softwear on it how do I get to run on the pc?00:21
bkc_spldart: did you quote ikonia or was that just pointer at him/her? because <NICK> is considered a quote...00:21
spldartjust did a ctrl c and paste cuz I wanted to talk at him00:21
ikoniabkc_: that certainly wasn't my quote00:22
spldartah..00:22
spldartok00:22
bkc_spldart: try <TAB>... it's awesome ;)00:22
spldartmisunderstanding00:22
spldartI just did a highlight, copy, paste and then my statment to you00:22
spldartNot putting words in your mouth00:22
spldartsry00:22
bkc_on IRC it's NICK: NICK; or just plain NICK :)00:22
spldarthehe00:22
spldartk00:22
spldartanywho.. Thanks00:22
spldart!00:22
spldartYou guys are more helpful than the folks on #debian00:23
Random832like i can type s<TAB> and it'll insert spldart:00:23
spldartwoah00:23
Fishscenes<tab> is evil. Might want to type more of the name before autocompleting it. rofl00:23
bkc_it's called tab-completion, it's the future! :D00:23
bkc_*always* type 3 letters, then tab :P00:24
TomyLobohmm, 304 didn't work either00:24
spldartWelp... I'm a fossil that is trying to keep up so yeah....00:24
spldartThanks again!!!!!00:24
spldartXED00:24
bkc_(hence why my nick is so short... to mess with everyone :3)00:24
TomyLobothat is... i dont know if it was activated even00:24
jribFishscene: use a client that completes based on last talked ;)00:24
TomyLobohow do i check which one it tried to use?00:24
bkc_TomyLobo: what does nvidia-settings say? :)00:24
TomyLoboit says it cant find the driver again00:25
bkc_\( *¯∇¯)ノ ☆FABULOUS~☆00:25
jriboh dear00:25
bkc_... wrong channel -.-00:25
bkc_but equally funny in this context too ^.^00:25
fireglobehi, how to fix this please (The process owner Webshare (PHP) is: www-data)00:26
bkc_TomyLobo: okey... open up /var/log/Xorg.log in a text-editor of your choice :)00:26
jribfireglobe: what is there to fix?00:26
bkc_jrib: I'm guessing he's trying to remove that directory...00:26
fireglobeI can not log in to my webshare00:27
bkc_┬──┬╯︵ /(.□. \)00:27
bkc_...not again... I need too change place on these two channels -.-00:27
TomyLobobkc_ what am i looking for?00:27
fireglobeall configuration is ok except this message00:27
bkc_TomyLobo: search for "(EE)" (without quotes)... those are errors :)00:28
fireglobehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1361585/00:30
TomyLaptopFailed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)00:30
TomyLobobkc_ ^00:30
jribfireglobe: you need to give more context.  I don't see what the issue is with what you are pasting.  I also have no idea what you are doing to get that message.  Nor do I have any idea what you are logging into00:31
bkc_TomyLobo: anything else? seeing as you have interwebz on that machine you could paste the entire log on paste.ubuntu.com and I'll have a look :)00:32
billybigriggeris it possible for someone to help me out quick, my friend brought me a computer and his external hard disk, (his gf formatted the external with apple time machine) and i'm wondering if there's any ubuntu tools to recover the formatted windows partition?00:32
hotsauce1wewt00:33
jribbillybigrigger: plug it in, click on the partition in nautilus00:33
escottbillybigrigger, probably not. you could try checkdisk00:33
billybigriggeris gparted's "Attempt Data Rescue.." going to cut it?00:33
bkc_billybigrigger: that depends00:33
billybigriggerwell fdisk reports it can't read it because it's GPT00:33
bkc_has she overwritten anything?00:33
escottbillybigrigger, or testdisk rather00:33
fireglobei try to configure this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361590/00:33
bkc_use parted for GPT :)00:33
billybigriggerim in gparted00:34
TomyLobosent it to you in a PM00:34
billybigriggerunder Device i see "Attempt Data Rescue.."00:34
billybigriggerwill that cut it?00:34
escottbillybigrigger, i have no idea what that is. i would try testdisk00:34
bkc_billybigrigger: as I said, that depends :)00:35
billybigriggerso how does apple format?00:35
Romulanikonia00:36
Romulanikonia repond00:36
ericabcan someone tell me why "echo 12345 | wc -m"  returns, "6" and not "5" ???!00:36
escottbillybigrigger, hfs+00:36
hotsauce1noob question alert: How can I make sure all my hardware drivers are updated? (I am on Ubuntu 12.10 LTS) on a Dell laptop00:36
escottericab, echo -n00:36
ericabhmm00:37
Romulananyone?00:37
ericabok thanks escott00:37
billybigriggerescott, k testdisk thinks is efi gpt, good or bad?00:37
escottbillybigrigger, hard to say.00:37
IdleOneRomulan, can I help you?00:38
Romulanyeah00:38
billybigriggerok, so what do i need to do?00:38
Romulanneed help with eth0 config00:38
ikoniaRomulan: you're using backtrack linux00:38
bkc_billybigrigger: that's good, now try "Attempt Data Rescue"00:38
ericabescott, if i were to say, do "cat file | wc -m00:38
Romulanikonia00:38
ericabhow would i do the same ?00:38
ikoniaas I've told you earlier00:38
ikonia#backtrack-linux is the place to ask00:38
IdleOne!backtrack | Romulan00:38
ubottuRomulan: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition00:38
ericabin other words use cat, instead of echo00:39
HarpreetHi Guys, I am facing issue on my Ubuntu box with CIFS shared drive.00:39
RomulanThat isnt responding!!!00:39
ikoniaRomulan: that's not #ubuntu's problem00:39
Harpreetcan anyone help please00:39
escottericab, would it could whitespace and non-printing characters... yes00:39
rypervencheericab: I would say to run "wc -m file" ^^00:39
escottericab, s/could/count00:39
RomulanI've registered now! it says cannot send to channel! <over and out>00:39
ikoniaRomulan: that's not ubunut's problem00:40
ikoniaRomulan: if you read backtracks web site you'll see why00:40
ericabthanks escott and rypervenche00:40
bkc_Romulan: then ask in #freenode what you're doing wrong...00:40
billybigriggerbkc_, ok, i ran it, any idea how long this takes?00:41
billybigriggererr running it i should say00:41
escottbillybigrigger, the partition table type shouldn't matter to data recovery. the unknown is if the data is recoverable00:41
IdleOne!identify | Romulan00:41
ubottuRomulan: You can identify automatically by using your NickServ password as the server password in your IRC client. When identifying manually, do NOT send the command from a channel's tab, as a typo will give away your password. If that happens, identify and then type « /msg NickServ set password <new-password> » in the server tab as soon as possible.00:41
gangimamsyes00:41
bkc_billybigrigger: no idea... depends on a gazillion different things :)00:41
asdiohwhat is this??? my email poped up in google inside some list of emails and cryptographed passwords, name of the list is some database leak of some unknown forum00:42
HarpreetThe issue is that my CIFS drive times out after few hours, giving me error "Host is down" (when trying to access), but on second try (after this timeout) it start working again.00:42
escott!ot | asdioh00:43
ubottuasdioh: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!00:43
RomulanNeroyeah00:43
escottHarpreet, you might try some kind of cron job to put a heartbeat on the CIFS partition00:44
Harpreetescott: that is my last resort00:44
Harpreetescott: I was thinking of looking for genuine solution first, as I don't have any reason for why this should happen00:45
escottHarpreet, i imagine you and i have different attitudes with respect to duct-tape then :)00:45
Harpreet:-)00:45
Harpreetescott: to be precise , do you know any reason for idle time out on CIFS in Ubuntu00:46
Harpreetescott: I read one post that said to meke this chage "echo 0 > /proc/fs/cifs/OplockEnabled"00:47
escottHarpreet, these days with power management being such a common concern... lots of things. Wireless drivers going into low power mode, windows going into a low power mode, linux going into a low power mode00:47
Harpreetescott: as it said that it is getting locked00:47
Harpreetescott: but low power mode on a server class machine :-)00:47
Harpreetor in server setup00:48
billybigriggerbkc_, ok so how does gparted data recovery compare to some other "pro" recovery tools00:48
bkc_Harpreet: crappy drivers/implementation could be a possibility. like for instance a buffer-over/underflow, memory-leakage, etc.etc. :)00:48
escottHarpreet, could be anywhere. i dont really know00:48
billybigriggerie the knoppix base recovery00:48
billybigriggercant remember the name of it00:48
bkc_billybigrigger: about the same or better...00:48
bkc_knoppix base recovery uses gparted...00:49
billybigriggerok, ill trust you :P00:49
billybigriggerk cool00:49
billybigriggerill do some googling while i wait00:49
escottHarpreet, but i would think most servers would drop an inactive client after some configurable idle00:49
Harpreetescott: bkc_ thanks, but still would look for more specific answer, I can volunteer to be debugging hand, for any one who wants to try hands on this issue00:49
Harpreetescott: this is my first encounter, have dealt with many CISF on Ubuntu setup00:50
bkc_Harpreet: I'd file a bug-report at the guys who develop the cifs-implementation on linux, not here :)00:50
bkc_and give as much info and logs as possible (that are relevant)00:50
Harpreetbkc_: I think would have to do that, thanks a ton00:51
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billybigriggerbkc_, is it normal to still be "searching for file systems on /dev/sdc"00:51
bkc_billybigrigger: As I said previously, it depends on a gazillion different things... it can take from a couple of minutes too a couple of days/weeks...00:52
bkc_(I'm not kidding... weeks...)00:52
billybigriggerwhat?00:52
billybigriggerbut it says still searching for file systems00:52
Kyle___Hello?00:52
billybigriggerthats normal i guess?00:52
escottbillybigrigger, and it has to read the entire disk to see if it can find any hint of one00:52
bkc_but for weeks we're talking about *huge* servers that are checked over a network-stream...00:52
billybigriggeroh you forgot to say that :P00:53
escottbillybigrigger, i think NTFS keeps some structures at the end of the partition and maybe those werent overwritten by nfs+00:53
bkc_billybigrigger: yes, that's normal. and it's exactly like escott said :)00:53
billybigriggeronly a 1tb external00:53
bkc_billybigrigger: and like I said, it depends on your setup...00:53
escottbillybigrigger, when it has finished reading the entire disk it will let you know00:53
billybigriggerlaptop with a usb2.0 disk :(00:53
Kyle___Excuse me, but do you think someone can give me a hand?00:54
Kyle___Please?00:54
bkc_billybigrigger: you also have too consider stull like poor usb-drivers, bad cables, crappy buffering, etc.etc.etc... :)00:55
ddKyle_, just post your problem :)00:55
billybigriggergpart is only using %13 cpu according to top, so i just want to make sure it's doing something if i let it sit here, my buddy is in from out of town so time is a factor here00:55
billybigriggerbkc_, i understand that00:55
escottbillybigrigger, go out to dinner00:56
bkc_escott: +100:56
bkc_1TB will take a while... my internal PATA 40GB took ~1hour...00:56
Kyle___I'm trying to boot 12.10 from a flash drive, but the boot stops at [9.091596] [drm] radeon: ring at 0x00000000E000100000:57
bkc_horay for amd! -.-00:57
billybigriggerescott, i was just gonna go ask if it was safe to have a beer and play a game of pool :P00:57
billybigriggerbkc_, escott thanks, if your around when im back ill probably ping :P00:58
billybigriggercheers00:58
escott!nomodeset | Kyle__ you could try00:58
ubottuKyle__ you could try: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter00:58
Kyle___Thanks!00:59
bkc_billybigrigger: just don't be supprised if it doesn't find anything thou... MBR->GPT and NTFS->whatever-apple-uses is quite destructive sometimes...01:00
bkc_it's still fixable sometimes...01:00
tigrangIs there any console utility to configure a network adapter (ex. set a static ip)?01:02
dr_willisnm-cli i belive01:04
dr_willisof the ifconfig tools01:04
dr_willisor ifconfig  ;)01:04
ikoniaip01:04
ikoniaroute add01:05
dr_willisor just that dhclient tool.01:05
dr_willisbut that wont be static. unless the router/dhcp server does it that way01:05
Kyle___Ok, so I was able to fix my previous problem by using nomodeset, but now when I attempt to install to the hard drive, I get "I/O space for GPIO uninitialized"01:12
theborgerwhat is going on with the downloads? i cant get 64bit to download at all. and the torrent says corrupt01:12
eosswhy would the manual command not work01:12
dr_williswhat manual command?01:13
eoss manual apt-get01:13
eoss-bash: manual: command not found01:13
dr_willisits 'man'01:13
eosswhich is short for manual01:13
eossman apt-get01:13
eoss-bash: man: command not found01:13
dr_willis$ man01:13
dr_willisWhat manual page do you want?01:13
dr_willis$ which man01:14
dr_willis/usr/bin/man01:14
eossi want the one that works when i install linux01:14
ikoniaubuntu comes with man pages01:14
eossthats what i want01:14
ikoniaso either you have a.) removed them b.) not installed ubuntu01:14
eoss...01:14
eosse0s@lagunesrevenge:~$ lsb_release -a01:14
eossNo LSB modules are available.01:14
eossDistributor ID:Ubuntu01:14
eossDescription:Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS01:14
eossRelease:10.0401:14
FloodBot1eoss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:14
eossCodename:lucid01:14
dr_willisor your PATH is all messed up01:15
ikoniathat's a good "c"01:15
Kyle___ Ok, so I was able to fix my previous problem by using nomodeset, but now when I attempt to install to the hard drive, I get "I/O space for GPIO uninitialized"01:15
escottKyle___ the kernel really doesn't like your hardware01:16
theborgeranyone?01:16
ikoniaanyone what ?01:16
ikoniawhat good is just saying "anyone"01:16
theborgerwhat is going on with the downloads? i cant get 64bit to download at all. and the torrent says corrupt01:16
Kyle___Well the kernel is mean then -.-01:16
guruguyjust installed 12.10 with a raid-10 configuration (4 hdd); can NOT get it to boot properly due to the apparently well known grub-probe (null volume) bug. what i have NOT seen is a solution.  any1 know if there is one yet?01:16
ikoniaguruguy: is there a bug logged if it's that well known ?01:17
guruguyi've seen countless bugs logged both w/ debian & ubuntu01:17
eosse0s@lagunesrevenge:~$ echo $SHELL01:17
eoss/bin/bash01:17
eosse0s@lagunesrevenge:~$ echo $PATH01:17
eoss/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games01:17
eosse0s@lagunesrevenge:~$01:17
FloodBot1eoss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:17
guruguyi've seen patches posted, but no definitive resolutsions01:17
ikoniaguruguy: ok - so what does those bugs say ?01:17
ikoniaguruguy: (ubuntu bugs)01:17
escottguruguy, do you not have a /boot partition outside the array?01:17
ikoniaonly mirrors are supported for /boot01:18
guruguyi have my array setup w/ 6 separate raid paritions - including a separate /boot partition.01:18
ikoniaguruguy: so the /boot partition is not on the raid 10 array ?01:18
eossdr_willis: is my path not correct? where should the man page tool reside?01:19
ikoniaraid 5 may actually be supported too for /boot01:19
guruguyONLY MIRRORS SUPPORTED for /boot01:19
dr_willis/usr/bin/man01:19
ikoniaguruguy: yeah, I've just said that, no need for caps01:19
guruguyok - i was just VERY surprised to see that - i was not aware!01:19
guruguymy /boot IS in the raid 10 array01:19
ikoniaguruguy: raid 5 may also be supported, I can't remember01:19
eossdr_willis: yea, man isnt there...01:20
naryfaHow can I diagnose the problem of websites loading only sometimes? Both in Firefox and Chrome.01:20
dr_willissounds like you somehow removed it.01:20
eossdr_willis: i should mention im running im guessing on a virtual ubuntu thats actually sitting on a redhat box01:20
guruguyhowever - i ALSO installed same config in a VM - WITH /boot IN array - and it works NP! ???? no idea why the difference01:20
eossdr_willis: its on some vps01:20
ikoniaguruguy: the disks work different in a vm01:21
guruguygrub-probe /dev/md1 on the  VM (partmap) returns gpt01:21
eosse0s@lagunesrevenge:~$ cat /proc/version01:21
eossLinux version 2.6.18-308.8.2.el5.028stab101.1 (root@rhel5-build-x64) (gcc version 4.1.2 20080704 (Red Hat 4.1.2-46)) #1 SMP Sun Jun 24 20:25:35 MSD 201201:21
eosse0s@lagunesrevenge:~$01:21
ikoniaguruguy: what vm platform ?01:21
guruguygrub-probe <same> on baremetal - returns the infomus null-volume error01:21
escottguruguy, when you hand a VM an array it never sees the array01:21
eosslsb-release says ubuntu01:21
dr_williseoss:   You could have mentioned that earlier... sounds like they are not using a standard setup/install01:21
ikoniaahhh a VPS01:21
ikoniaeoss: game over01:21
guruguyrunning vmware wkstn 801:21
ikoniaguruguy: so a.) look for a solution in the bug reports b.) contribute to the bug report01:22
escottguruguy, it sees a virtual disk which the host kernel maps to the array01:22
ikoniaguruguy: so you've created a virtual md0 in the vmware guest ?01:22
naryfaanybody with network skills available?01:22
ikonianaryfa: ##networking is01:22
guruguyi have created md0, md1, md2 in the vm guest01:22
theborgeranyone?01:22
ikoniatheborger: saying anyone is totally pointless as I've stated earlier01:22
naryfaok01:23
blackbird34Hi everyone, i' having real trouble booting my computer. I'm getting a "kernel panic not syncing out of memory and no killable processes"01:23
guruguyall are gpt, and in vm, have boot, root, and swap01:23
theborgerwhat is going on with the downloads? i cant get 64bit to download at all. and the torrent says corrupt01:23
escottguruguy, why would you create mdadm devices in a guest? that makes no sense01:23
dr_willistheborger:  ive not heard of anyone else having similer problems.01:23
theborgerikonia: the downloads have all failed01:23
ikoniaescott: I guess a test, even if it's invalid01:23
KI4ROWhen my system starts up I get an xubuntu screen that I don't want.  How do I stop it?01:23
guruguydid this in vm b/c my baremetal install is such a failure.01:23
dr_willisand torrents should be error checking  themeselfs01:23
guruguyneeded to test the whole config; vm perfect for that01:23
ikoniaguruguy: not the best test in this situation01:24
ikoniabut not bad logic01:24
guruguyhmm why not best test?01:24
ikoniathe disk mapping will work different01:24
guruguyhmm i'll have to think bout that....tx01:24
blackbird34@KI4RO you could maybe install another Desktop environment, or look at psychocats.net tutorial for eliminating every last bit of a given DE01:24
ikoniaguruguy: how are you building the array, mdadm, or a hardware controller ?01:25
ikoniaI'm guessing mdadm01:25
guruguyoh no - mdadm all-the-way!!!!01:25
KI4ROblackbird34: Hmmm thought I was running Unity on 12.10??01:25
guruguy(never hardware ROTF)01:25
blackbird34yeah sure but did you install XFCE at some point too?01:26
KI4ROblackbird34: Yes I did01:26
ikoniaguruguy: what disk controller ?01:26
guruguyguess i'll try rm'g boot from the array, and see if i can at least get the sucker up01:26
CarloSS88exit01:26
CarloSS88jaja01:26
guruguythat may be a good Q - using dell t610 - which uses perc 601:26
guruguynever fully trusted dell; as well as perc 601:27
KI4ROblackbird34: I'll look at psychocats and see what I can do...thanks01:27
billybigriggerbkc_, escott is it safe to stop gparted's data recovery?01:27
bkc_billybigrigger: yes01:27
billybigriggerie whats better gparted recover or testdisk?01:27
escottbillybigrigger, presumably01:27
ikoniaguruguy: is this box crash and burn ? or does it need to stay as it is ?01:27
billybigriggerbkc_, aware of any log i can tail -f to see any actual progress?01:27
blackbird34KI4RO well then, even if you removed it there might be bits of it left. Have you had ubuntu long? and have a look here http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu01:28
guruguynot crash & burn; but doesn't need to stay exactly as is either....01:28
ikoniaguruguy: would you be interested in a test01:28
guruguyreally do NOT want to re-partition whole - but don't mind if i gotta burn the boot part01:28
ikoniaguruguy: make a 200mb partition on one disk, put /boot on that, (or use a seperate disk) and then leave the rest on raid 10 ?01:28
xrfanghelp: the startup application manager is missing from system menu, I am using 12.1001:28
blackbird34@KI4RO its a way of removing all the bits of (in your case) XFCE that you might have installed01:29
KI4ROblackbird34: Ok thanks01:29
guruguyyea i thought about that actually - and i have a VERY high expectation that it will work.01:29
blackbird34you're welcome01:29
guruguyi really wanted to solve this problem "cleanly"....01:29
blackbird34you don't know anything about kernl panics do you? ;)01:29
guruguybut maybe that's not possible01:29
ikoniaguruguy: I suspect the perc device may have poor support in the initram01:29
guruguyi bet your right01:30
guruguyin retrospect.....01:30
bkc_billybigrigger: no logs, and I'm farily sure that gparted won't help (as the actual partition-info is probably overwritten). however there are applications (free & non-free) for retreiving different types of files (e.g. photos, music, etc.) but those take TIME too run through... especially on such a large disk :)01:30
guruguythe real truth is - i only installed ubuntu 12.10 b/c it has the v3 kernel - AFTER debian squeeze failed MISERABLY to even recognize the hdd's !!!!01:31
guruguyso again - there's another pointer to the perc01:31
guruguyknoppix live see's the hdd's; but i don't remember which kernl it's using01:32
blackbird34So anyway can anyne help me with a computer failing to bot and giving me a "kernel panic not syncing out of memory and no killable processes" message please? :)01:32
ikoniaguruguy: but that's a livecd - in a full kernel01:32
ikoniaguruguy: ubuntu will see the disks, but it's the pre-boot that's killing you (I think)01:32
guruguytrue enuf....01:33
Hatorigood morning01:33
guruguyi think i'll drop boot from raid, and just see if i can get the install up.... pretty sure that should work!  guess i'll worry about cleaning it up sometime after ubuntu addresses the grub-probe but - which apparently an issue only for separate /boot anyway01:34
guruguyalthough, i already tried joining boot to root, and no fix01:34
ikoniaguruguy: I suspect it's an issue for non-seperate boot also01:34
guruguyLOL01:35
ikoniathat is zero surprise01:35
ikoniaas /boot the directory would still be on raid 1001:35
guruguyi read a reply to a bug that suggested that might work.... not... :/01:35
ikoniaI doubt that very much01:35
ikoniaalthough I'd like to look at what vmware is doing01:36
guruguyok - well tx for letting me bounce idea's around - apprecaite it!01:36
jahahow can i control upstart jobs as a unprivileged user?01:36
guruguyi'm curious about vmware too... but i've burned way too much time chasing this already....01:36
blackbird34I've had this kernel panic problem on my triple boot system, and even the SuperGrubDisk and live USBs didn't work so i don't know what to do..01:36
jagginessblackbird34, ,boot-repair iso.01:40
ClimXBlogquit01:41
blackbird34Isn't that called SuperGrubDisk or something? I've got that on a cd, i've used it before jagginess01:41
jagginessyou missed the slash noobie01:41
blackbird34huh?01:41
jagginesshttp://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/01:41
blackbird34thanks01:42
jagginesswas talking to ClimX01:42
jagginess(try the latest, even if its included on other project isoz)01:43
KI4ROblackbird34: That did it...lost SMUXI too but that was easily re installed...obviously LOL  Sure a rather long command string!01:48
blackbird34KI4RO well yeah Psychocat just strung the names of everything in XFCE together and said "remove them"01:49
KI4ROblackbird34: Yes, it certainly did!  LOL01:50
dr_willisblackbird34:  there is a specfic 'boot-repair' live cd mentioned at the ubuntu boot-repair wiki page.01:50
brophateverytime the update manager includes kernel update i get errors cause of some driver stuff I tried to install a long time ago but no longer need01:51
brophatpackage rt3090-dkms 1:2.4.0.4-0ubuntu0-ppa001:52
blackbird34dr_willis yes but you have to be booted up to use that, i've had it before. This time I can't boot Live USBs or my Linux OSs or a grub-repair CD01:52
neil1234567890Hi, i am looking for support on ubuntu windows, the windows are big on my screen i cannot see the bottom part on every window that pops out.01:52
brophatanyway I can just take that thing out, and why is update trying to install that?01:52
dr_willisuse the package manager tools to remove the package and perhaps ppa-purge01:53
brophatthe reason I ask is because that latest update is a kernel update01:53
dr_willis!ppa-purge01:53
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html01:53
blackbird34dr_willis i'm getting a message along th lines of "kernel panic not syncing out of memory and no killable processes", been looking on google, not found much...01:54
Jordan_Ublackbird34: Have you run memtest?01:54
dr_willisfirst guess here would be some bad ram01:54
blackbird34ah, no, is there a wiki age to explain how it works?01:54
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neil1234567890Hi, i am looking for support on ubuntu windows, the windows are big on my screen i cannot see the bottom part on every window that pops out.01:55
ner0xIf I'm compiling my own ruby, where should I put it?01:55
zvacetblackbird34: reboot and from grub menu select memtest and run it01:56
blackbird34Jordan_U memtest doesn't show up on my grub, version 2.00 beta 4, not even under "advanced options" for any of my OSs01:56
escottner0x, /usr/local01:56
dr_willisneil1234567890:  whats your screen resolution?  have you tested with a newly made user to see if its some setting issue?01:57
ner0xescott: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local   ?   How would I know what files to remove if I needed to remove it?01:57
Jordan_Ublackbird34: That's odd, I thought that it was installed by default (it certainly used to be).01:57
escott!info checkinstall | ner0x also use this01:57
ubottuner0x also use this: checkinstall (source: checkinstall): installation tracker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.2-3ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 114 kB, installed size 502 kB01:57
neil1234567890yeah i already did try it on another user01:57
ner0xescott: Thank you.01:57
N56VZHi, i have just broght an ASUS N56VZ and installed Ubuntu 12.10 on it. However the Fn+F5/F6 (which control the screen brightness) isn't working. Anyone know a fix for it?01:58
neil1234567890dr_willis my screen resolution is 1024x600 running on an ubuntu samsung netbook01:59
srinHi. I was locked out of my root account and tried to reset it using recovery mode. However, I can't login to the root account still. it takes the password, but it won't go to the desktop. it just gos back to the login screen01:59
escottsrin, you should not run a desktop as root02:00
srinI don't.02:00
dr_willisneil1234567890:  Yep.. thats going to be an issue with most apps expectng at least a 800 pixle tall screen02:00
jgsprattI had to switch a server's drives out from one server into another.  The destination server has a slightly different motherboard.  The OS booted, but lshw -C network shows that "*-network DISABLED" for both my ifaces.02:00
srinI normally use the user account. I needed to install updates.02:00
jgsprattWhat's the right way to re-enable networking on this box?02:00
escott!gksudo | srin02:00
ubottusrin: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)02:00
dr_willisneil1234567890:  there used to be a way to have a larger virtual screen you could pan around. but i never did get it working on my little netbook.02:01
kj4is linux better than windows?02:01
almoxarifekj4: yes02:01
escottN56VZ, search on the forums for that model number02:01
neil1234567890so i just have to live with alt key+drag??02:01
dr_williskj4:  totally depends on the  tasks you need to do.02:01
dr_willisneil1234567890:  or look into the paning feature.. but i never got that working02:01
ner0xescott: checkinstall is quite nice actually.02:02
neil1234567890where do i find that02:02
dr_willispanning  :)  its an old featre from years back. it may not even be in X any more.02:02
brophatwhere are packages downloaded to?02:02
neil1234567890<dr_willis> where do i find that?02:02
dr_willisi never was able to get it going on my netbook neil1234567890 .02:02
zvacetkj4: what do you think why we are here02:02
kj4zvacet: because you work for linux02:03
srinubottu: the issue is that the root account isn't accessible...02:03
jgspratthow can I re-install the networking driver for this linux?02:03
srinescott: ^ sorry, wrong person was highlighted02:03
zvacetkj4: no,because I enjoy running ubuntu02:03
neil1234567890<dr_willis> so i just have to live with that, hehehe02:03
escottsrin, you should not be trying to login as root anywhere. you will not get help for that in this channel02:03
kj4zvacet: you are the leader of ubuntu?02:04
srinrofl. not even to do updates? my user account isn't in the sudoers file.02:04
zvacetkj4: just user02:04
srinthat's hilarious, thanks. I guess that's why most people use arch or debian.02:04
blackbird34kj4 no i am :)02:04
LLStarkshi, i can't edit settings in g-c-c anymore02:04
chris__333I need help please. I just installed ubuntu. For some disgusting reason I have a little video clip of a man wiggling his private part in circles round and round. I don't know how to remove it02:04
LLStarksany suggestions for how to fix this? i can't edit networks, printers, or any useful settings02:04
LLStarkscan't unlock the dialogs either02:05
kj4blackbird34: thank you, nice to meet you.02:05
escottsrin, then add it at the recovery console. usermod -a -G sudo username (for 12.10) usermode -a -G admin username for 12.04 and previous02:05
LLStarksit's greyed out02:05
jribchris__333: please ask real support questions...02:05
N56VZescott, i did ~ no solution found :<02:05
blackbird34joking kj402:05
blackbird34chris__333 what on earth have you been doing??02:05
defileN56VZ, Ubuntu 12.04?02:05
chris__333jrib: I don't understand. What do you mean real support questions?02:05
KI4ROblackbird34: System seems a little quicker without XUBUNTU....many thanks for your help02:05
chris__333blackbird34: nothing. it's a new install 10 minutes ago02:06
blackbird34you're welcome KI4RO02:06
kj4chris__333: thats normal with the latest v of ubuntu02:06
N56VZdefile, 12.1002:06
SierraARCan I ask a question regarding wine here or should I ask elsewhere?02:06
chris__333kj4: can i switch it to show a woman rather than a man? It's gross.02:06
defileN56VZ, It's possible you're getting hit with this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/103055602:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1030556 in linux (Ubuntu) "Special keys don't work on ASUS N56VZ" [Medium,Confirmed]02:07
zvacet!offtopic | kj402:07
ubottukj4: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:07
kj4chris__333: wouldn't that be grosser, if she had one, swinging it around?02:07
blackbird34chris__333 come on, did you do a search in the dash and get some results through amazon or the video lenses?02:07
jribkj4, chris__333: stop now.  This channel is for legitimate support questions02:07
chris__333kj4: hahaha. well i'd prefer her boobies swinging around rather than some hairy man whiping it round and round. i'm getting dizzy!02:08
esuaveanyone know how to boot single user mode on 8.04 without networking?02:08
kj4<--stopped02:08
N56VZdefile, yes ~ except i am on 12.1002:08
dr_willisesuave:  use the option 'single' to the grub kernel options instead of the default 'quiet splash'02:08
SierraARIs there a way to disable the [alt] = open search menu, and get the alt key to open the file menu bar in wine like it normally does in windows?02:08
esuavesingle still starts networking htough02:08
esuavethough*02:09
dr_willisSierraAR:  thats the 'HUD' and i do recall it being disabable-able.. but not sure how.02:09
LLStarks???02:09
dr_willisesuave:  why does networking matter?02:09
SierraARdr_willis, Disabable-able? Nice terminology xD. I'll go see if I can find anything now that I know what it's called02:09
neil1234567890<dr_willis> with my windows issue are sayin' that it is normal for now???02:09
esuavecause its pulling an IP set statically thats already on the network and causing grief02:09
esuavedupe IP's02:10
dr_willisneil1234567890:  many apps are hardcoded/expect you to have a monitor of at least 800 pixles tall.02:10
escottesuave, scissors?02:10
dr_willisunplug the cable?02:10
esuavei just wanted to get into /etc/network/interfaces to change the dang IP02:10
esuavei would if i were next to the machine02:10
esuaveor disable it at the switch.. if i had access02:10
escottesuave, so you want no networking... but you don't have physical access?02:11
neil1234567890<dr_willis> so this things happens on netbooks.02:11
SierraARdr_willis, looks like I found the answer to disabling the search menu thing here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/122209/how-do-i-modify-or-disable-the-huds-use-of-the-alt-key02:11
esuaveescott: yep :/02:11
dr_willisneil1234567890:  with low res screens.. yes. One reason i got a better netbook02:11
escottesuave, what are you going to use to communicate with the machine then? telepathic powers?02:11
dr_willisSierraAR:  i like the hud ;) i dont want to disable it.02:11
esuaveilo02:11
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thanigaivelThe VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv. any suggestions please.02:11
almoxarifeesuave: sounds like you want to knock the comp off-line02:11
esuaveI'm using iLO to access the machine02:12
neil1234567890<dr_willis> but this is 1024x600 already02:12
esuaveiLO has telepathic kvm powers built in02:12
SierraARdr_willis, I personally see no point in using alt to bring up the search menu, when I can use the winkey to do the exact same, and I'm used to hitting [alt][l][h][h] in Notepad++ to quickchange the language scheme to html, or [alt][l][j] for javascript02:12
SierraARxD02:12
almoxarifethanigaivel: how did you install vbox and which one?02:12
dr_willisSierraAR:   the winkey does not do the same thing.02:13
tigrangdr_willis, thanks02:13
escottesuave, so when the network comes up does it break the iLO connection?02:13
fireglobeExcuse me for disturbing you, and forgive me too if my English is not at ... I'm trying to configure owncloud, it uses a mysql database at first launch, I informed the administrator account and password, I see that owncloud adds the user to the table oc_users, but now when I run the page localhost / owncloud, I enter my username administrator refreshed the page and nothing happens02:13
esuavenope02:13
SierraARdr_willis, whats the difference between the two? Does one search different areas then?02:13
escottesuave, you could maybe blacklist the network modules that would break it for you02:13
dr_willisthe HUD lets you search/find menu items  in specific apps for one thing02:13
thanigaivelalmoxarife: i have installed from ubuntu software centre02:13
esuavehow can i do that in the kernel params?02:14
dr_willisSUPER key = the dash search for apps.  and lens, the HUD searches In the app for menu items and other things.02:14
escottesuave, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernel_modules#Using_kernel_command_line_202:14
almoxarifethanigaivel: since the install, did you reboot? dont reboot if you have not02:14
tigrangdr_willis, doesn't seem ifconfig eth0 ###.###.###.### is permanant, I guess I'll just edit /etc/network/interfaces manually02:15
dr_willishttp://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/ubuntus-hud-light-years-beyond-any-menu-system/353502:16
dr_willistigrang:  it wouldent be permenant.. correct.02:16
SierraAROo cool, I can have it mapped to right alt and left left alt unmapped02:16
thanigaivelalmoxarife:  i installed windows xp and woks fine. after ubuntu  update showing like this issue.02:16
SierraARs/left/leave02:16
almoxarifethanigaivel: did the update include a kernel update?02:17
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thanigaivelalmoxarife:  not kernal update.02:18
jgsprattah: got it: it was that the OS had renamed the interface02:18
jgsprattfrom eth0 to eth2, because it didn't recognize the hardware addresses I guess02:18
almoxarifethanigaivel: couple of things, in terminal 'sudo apt-get install dkms' , if it says already installed then bug out02:20
marunHi how do i run cron jobs configured my me on demand?02:20
thanigaivelalmoxarife:  yes it says already installed02:21
escottmarun, best practice is to have the job call a script. then you can manually call that script02:21
escottmarun, your crontab should not have some complex bash -c "stuff" as the command. just a simple /path/to/script.sh02:22
lonewlfthere was some enterprise level free backup software that made it onto slashdot recently... free as long as you were backing up to your own machines on your local network? does anyone remember this? I can't remember a name for the life of me...02:22
almoxarifethanigaivel: in terminal 'sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv' , does it complete without error?02:23
Froward^‿^02:23
escottlonewlf, what more than rsync could you want?02:23
thanigaivelalmoxarife: sudo: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: command not found02:23
marunescott: Okay. I though there could be some way to do it using run-parts.. Ok.. Let me modify my cron to a script :)02:24
marun*thought02:24
escottmarun, there might be... but why read through pages of manuals for some odd debugging tool when you can directly call the script02:24
almoxarifethanigaivel:               sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv02:24
escottmarun, the only reason not to do it that way would be if the clean environment provided by cron was important, but thats just a bug waiting to happen02:25
marunescott: gotcha!02:25
thanigaivelalmoxarife: sudo: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: command not found02:25
almoxarifethanigaivel: http://askubuntu.com/questions/126175/virtualbox-doesnt-load-after-12-04-upgrade <-- does this match your situation?02:27
almoxarifethanigaivel: why are there colon(:) on your response line? those where not on terminal were they?02:29
almoxarife!ping02:36
ubottupong!02:36
lonewlfplease don't look up my question anyone, I'm sorry I spammed it across the channels I was logged into.02:38
gunarm1i'm trying to use ddrescue off of a live iso (12.04.1) but it's not installed and the package (gddrescue) is not found in apt-get.  /etc/apt/sources.list only contains "precise" "precise-security" and "precise-updates" do I need to add another line to download gddrescue?02:38
grafthey guys, i have a CIFS mount that always gives me headaches... right now i can't mount it, and all of my mount.cifs processes from previous attempts are unkillable02:38
graftif kill -9 doesn't work, what do i do?02:38
ikoniagraft: what processes ?02:40
graftikonia: /sbin/mount.cifs02:40
ikoniagraft: that's hanging around ?02:40
graftyeah... basically if i change my network connection or start/stop it, the share hangs, and now i cant umount/remount it02:41
graftand every attempt to mount it results in an unkillable process02:41
ikoniagraft: you can't change your network connection while it's mounted, that will hang it02:41
gunarm1graft are you remembering to sudo the kill command?02:42
ikoniastale mounts02:42
gunarm1i usually kill through htop and often forgot to run it as sudo so that that actually works02:42
a1gI just built a time tracking application in pygtk it uses harvestapp.com api, if your interested, please check it out. https://github.com/aurorasoftware/TimeTracker-Linux02:45
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a1gI'm looking to make it into a ubuntu deb package02:46
a1gthere are screenshots in data/media directory too :)02:47
IorekI just got this - should I be worried? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361745/02:48
gunarm1how do you enable universe in unity?02:49
DaemonicApathyThe Update Manager has checkboxes for those settings, gunarm1.02:49
thanigaivelalmoxarife: ttp://askubuntu.com/questions/126175/virtualbox-doesnt-load-after-12-04-upgrade  i followed this page. issue solved thank you almoxarife.02:49
almoxarifethanigaivel: cool :)02:50
ner0xescott: checkinstall supposed to take a very long time?02:52
escottner0x, no02:52
ner0xescott: Interesting. This one is.02:52
gunarm1DaemonicApathy, but when I check them, it doesnt seem to make any changes in /etc/apt/sources.list02:52
ner0xescott: Could be because it's on an ec2 server.02:52
gunarm1do I have to click an apply button somewhere?02:52
dfgas-cr48what package do i install for ccar02:53
escottner0x, it shouldnt take much longer than a normal make install would02:53
jahaQuestion: any ideas on how to make sure NetworkManager indefinitely tries to reconnect wired/wifi and also verifies it can reach outside the local network?02:53
gufcfanhey guys... whoah there's a lot of people here02:53
DaemonicApathygunarm1: it should ask you for the sudo password when you check one, and immediately apply the setting. Then, you can click Check in the main window.02:53
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jaha^ on 12.0402:54
ner0xescott: it sure is.02:54
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ner0xescott: Going on a few minutes now.02:55
Random832so I heard CDE is open-source now02:55
Random832any plans on a cdubuntu?02:55
DaemonicApathygunarm1: Of course, if you already know about accessing /etc/apt/sources.list , then you can just uncomment the universe entries, and save it.02:56
zykotick9Random832: using cde is like a timewarp back to the 80s02:56
gufcfanif it's ok, i have a quick question about creating a usb installer using pendrivelinux... is it going to format the usb drive to do it? im looking around for answers and not really finding anything. i get the feeling it will, which would be bad...02:56
jagginessgufcfan, it doesnt02:56
jagginessgufcfan, you have to format it manually-- make one partition on the usb-- as a fat32 , give it a letter drive, then start pendrive02:57
zykotick9gufcfan: assume it will.  backup any data, before starting!02:57
gunarm1DaemonicApathy, I am using a live iso, and it doesnt have anything commented like on a legit install.  I got it to accept the changes, but I still cannot install gddrescue maybe its in some other wierd repo02:57
Random832is there a howto for how to package something for ubuntu?02:57
gufcfani am better not to do it right now, i can't back the data. thanks for that. a bit tired, should have realised that on my own. thanks02:57
sven_Random832, the easiest way would be checkinstall - but thats not the best way.02:58
zykotick9Random832: checkinstall does not produce packages suitable for distribution or ppas02:58
trismRandom832: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/packaging-new-software.html also see the debian new maintainers guide02:59
jagginessgufcfan, if youre shopping for spare usb sticks, i'd suggest lexar , they work good for usb booting (not all of them do, it's always possible lexar doesnt work well for you-- the right stuff can be a pita)03:00
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DaemonicApathygunarm1: It's in Universe. If that's enabled, "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install ddrescue" should work for you.03:00
Random832where would be somewhere to post asking if anyone is interested on packaging cde for ubuntu03:01
ansi_please help please help.. my ubuntu12.04 dosent get past login screen.. please help someone03:01
brayan??????????03:01
jagginessRandom832, CDE is obsolete.. even solaris uses gnome03:01
ner0xescott: We're going on 10 minutes...03:01
DaemonicApathybrayan: That doesn't count as a question.03:02
ansi_i am presently loggger in from my other windows PC and chatting here03:02
brayantodos hablan ingles?03:02
Random832gnome sucks though03:02
gufcfanthanks jagginess, i don't know how to dm someone (or whatever you call it on irc). i was going to try and do it on an external seagate.in order to install it alongside windows 7 on an ageing computer. is this a bad idea?03:02
zykotick9Random832: i doubt anyone "really" wants the headache of packaging an out-dated DE for ubuntu any time soon.  perhaps as a joke, but i really don't see the point.  best of luck with cde.03:02
DaemonicApathy!es | brayan03:02
ubottubrayan: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.03:02
ansi_ please some one assist me.. i have been tryin to fix thiis for the past 4 days but couldnt.. please its a critical situaton..please help03:02
jagginessgufcfan, ?03:02
jagginessgufcfan, what are you trying to use pendrive for? (you're trying to make a usb installer?)03:03
ansi_please help please help.. my ubuntu12.04 dosent get past login screen.. please help someone03:03
DaemonicApathyansi_: Do you have any details about what is happening? Asking repeatedly will not help you.03:04
gufcfanjagginess, i just want to do a windows 7 / 12.10 dual-boot03:04
gufcfanpy03:05
dr_willis'get past login screen' is vague. what does it do exactly03:05
ansi_i have also joined in as ansi12 from my ubuntu machine using the startx command but nothing seems to be wrking03:05
ansi_DaemonicApathy03:05
DaemonicApathyansi_: Great! But can you describe what is happening when you try to log in?03:06
marunansi_: try reinstalling ubuntu-desktop03:06
gunarm1ansi_, the probability of you getting a useful answer is directly proportionate to your skill at asking a question containing the necessary information03:06
lonewulf85I am running Ubuntu 12.04 X86_64 and I am having trouble installing the graphics driver.03:06
marunansi_: aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop; aptitude install ubuntu-desktop; reboot03:06
DaemonicApathyWell said, gunarm1.03:06
ansi_DaemonicApathy earlier i tried to download a few things but later realized that there was no memory hence i couldnt login.. thine i read some forums that ctrl + alt+ f1 / f2 cam let u login thats wat i did03:06
uabn93hi my power supply is as loud as a leaf blower. Would it be okay if i just cut the fans out?03:07
DaemonicApathyansi_: I suggest you backup your data with a liveCD/USB and reinstall Ubuntu.03:07
dr_willisdownloading things dont take up memory. It ould take up disk space.03:07
peterrooneyuabn93: ##hardware03:07
DaemonicApathyuabn93: Better to replace the power supply.03:07
dr_willisand you can jump to/from the console with alt-ctrl f1 through f6, F7 should get you back to the GUI03:08
ansi_i could login but nothing seems to be working03:08
marunansi_: did you try reinstalling ubuntu-desktop?03:08
uabn93DaemonicApathy: it's been very difficult to determing how much power it needs.03:09
almoxarifeansi_: patebin /var/log/syslog03:09
ansi_marun i am just doing that i had also logged in as ansi12 from my ubuntu pc03:09
DaemonicApathyuabn93, may I pm you? This is a bit offtopic.03:09
almoxarifepastebin ansi_03:09
uabn93DaemonicApathy: It's okay. ill leave to #hardware.03:10
zykotick9marun: sidenote - your "aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop; aptitude install ubuntu-desktop; reboot" is pointless on gnu/linux 90+% of the time.03:10
DaemonicApathyOk, good luck.03:10
ansi_almoxarife i cant see anything more than a folder on the desktop how do i open internetviewer03:10
jagginessgufcfan, you can choose the 'something else' when it comes to the partition-mapping with the ubuntu installer -- here's a hint http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqlc_5bqId803:10
ansi_Stopping system V runlevel compatibility03:10
almoxarifeansi_: can you get to a terminal?03:11
jagginessgufcfan, (you can resize ntfs with gparted live cd)03:11
ansi_almoxarife i can get to the terminalyes03:11
pythonirc101How do I find out which package provides "picins.sty"?03:11
escott!find picins.sty03:11
almoxarifeansi_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit <-- in terminal03:11
gufcfanjagginess, am I making this more complicated than i need it to be? what about the windows installer?03:11
ubottuPackage/file picins.sty does not exist in quantal03:11
escottpythonirc101, doesn't seem to be there03:12
jagginessgufcfan, that's not a real linux install, though you can use it for "checking out" linux..  (reason is because a big "loopback" file sits on top of ntfs-- it's hard to resize space for linux or fix its bootloader in this "wubi" setup) -03:13
DaemonicApathypythonirc101: LaTeX?03:13
pythonirc101yes03:13
DaemonicApathypythonirc101: http://public.kitware.com/pipermail/igstk-developers/2008-December/001812.html03:13
jagginessgufcfan, ,if you're hardware is very fast that supports VT, perhaps you've heard of vbox03:13
pythonirc101I do have latex, but no picins03:13
ansi_almoxarife this is how i do it..i turn on my pc wait for the ubunutu login.. then enter the pass.. but it keeps getting back to the login screen and on the black screen i can barely get a glimpse of this written "Stopping system V runlevel compatibility" then i press ctrl+ alt+f1 and login with stop / start service loghtdm and  do a sudo startx and i am able to get just a blank desktop with a newfolder that i just created03:13
lonewulf85Having trouble installing radeon graphics driver.03:14
zykotick9pythonirc101: i'd guess apt-file might be able to help you.  if it was something you've installed from a package, then using "dpkg -S picins.sty" might tell you03:14
almoxarifegufcfan: nothing wrong with a wubi install of ubuntu, and its real ubuntu03:14
reduzhi guys help i upgraded ubuntu but initramfs doesn't work, new kernels don't work because missing initrd, only old kernels boot and even if i reinstall newer kernels or call update-initramfs nothing works. Any idea?03:14
gufcfanjagginess, my hardware is ancient. part of the reason  i am installing ubuntu again. i liked it when i used it years ago but never got any further into it than installing and browsing web, watching video etc.03:14
jagginessgufcfan, if its ancient then why do you meantion windows7 ?03:15
almoxarifeansi_: cool, you got it under control then03:15
gufcfani have quite an old machinee here so is a wubi install more taxing than proper install?03:15
ansi_almoxarife i did sudo -apt get install but it says pastebinit is already the newest version03:16
marunansi_: unity --reset03:16
ansi_almoxarife what next??03:16
mujihello fellas, anyone know how i may use my headphone controls on amarok?03:16
* zykotick9 thinks "nothing wrong with a wubi install" is incorrect. wubi does not seem to upgrade to newer versions very well, making them very temporary. and making ubuntu rely on windows, is putting the horse before the cart03:16
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mujiim using the beats tour with the pause, play and all thhose buttons03:16
almoxarifegufcfan: the good thing is that the iso used by wubi you can use for the full install, so there is nothing to lose by the wubi if you chose03:17
ansi_almoxarife what next??  marun should i do that??03:17
jagginessgufcfan, i'd have no clue... actually.. it would probably be better to do non-wubi03:17
gufcfani unfort lost my machines and other stuff in a fire and am using a piece of crap that was given to me which has windows 7 on it. it struggles with a few tabs open in chrome and doesn't like anything north of 240/360p video on youtube03:17
jagginessgufcfan, (the majority fo for non-wubi)03:17
jagginessgufcfan, (./go for03:17
marunansi_: yeah, Most probably your unity is crashed/misconfigured. unity --reset will reset the settings03:18
reduzhelp I don't have initrd.img-3.5.0-18-generic for some reason, didn't get created when upgraded and can't boot, how do i generate it?03:18
zykotick9reduz: are you on an eufi system by chance?03:19
ansi_marun!!!!!!.. i think. the unity has cme back!!!!... yeah.. but wait.. the desktop is blank.. where are all my files.. i think ti sisi someother username??.. should i reboot ??.. i can see the unty side panel appearing though.. but the desktop is still empty03:19
reduzzykotick9, what's that? how do i find out?03:19
marunansi_: give a reboot03:19
almoxarifezykotick9: the upgrade issue was something that one had to know the secret work-around, thats true, but for what it does, wubi is not a bad thing, i might never had converted to full blown linux had i not installed it first via wubi, some of us are/were scared to death to do anything that might kill windows without having a fall back,03:19
ansi_marun and here is the terminal still on.. should i still reboot???03:20
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ansi_marun and here is the terminal still on.. should i still reboot???03:20
zykotick9reduz: you aren't then ;)  it's some new BIOS like thing.  i just saw someone mentioning issues with initrd not being created by grub on eufi system the other day.  different issue most likely.03:20
marunansi_: yeah. Please reboot03:20
reduzzykotick9, update-initramfs does nothing at all03:21
reduzzykotick9, ignores all arguments03:21
reduzi think it broke03:21
almoxarifeansi_: so you want to share your syslog or rather not?03:21
zykotick9reduz: sorry man.  i've only personally ever had to mess with initrd on like 1 or 2 occassions and that's it.  i have no recollection of the processes involved.  best of luck!03:21
reduzoh wait, i found out what it happened03:22
reduzi have a03:22
reduzupdate-initramfs.distrib which works03:22
cmoylanIs this the best place to ask about grub boot errors?03:22
reduzwhat does it mean?03:22
ansi_marun no, i cant still logon normally.. the logon screen appears again and again03:22
reduzok let's try03:23
escottansi_, you might try a different session (unity-2d) or the like03:23
cmoylanGetting the "please close all package managers" thing when i run boot-repair03:24
ansi_marun no, i cant still logon normally.. the logon screen appears again and again03:24
escott!aptlock | cmoylan03:24
ubottucmoylan: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »03:24
almoxarifecmoylan: probably have 'synaptic' open?03:24
marunansi_: Ok, may be you should remove unity and install it again. I am not 100% sure if it works. But if I were you, I will do that. Please make a decision :)03:25
KI4ROSo if I reboot from a terminal, it does...if I hit restart off the menu it goes to a black screen and sits03:25
cmoylanalmoxarife: running off the live cd, installed boot-repair from terminal03:26
ansi_i am with u.. as long as i dont lose whats on my desktop!03:26
ansi_will that delete data???..03:26
ansi_marun will that delete data???..03:27
escottansi_, have you tried the 2d session03:27
escottansi_, and no people aren't suggesting things that would delete data. only deleting settings (like the pinned apps in the unity side menu)03:27
marunansi_: If you are not sure, please backup your data to safe location from /home/<your username>/Desktop . It shouldn't cause any harm to data. But just in case03:27
zykotick9escott: is ansi_ using 12.04?  i don't think unity 2d exists in 12.10 does it?03:27
ansi_escott i did try all the sessions nothing permits me inside03:28
escottansi_, all the sessions including?03:28
viking667hey all. Where has libqt4-multimedia gone to? I can't seem to find any mention of it.03:28
ansi_zytotick9 yes sir i am usning 12.0403:28
escottzykotick9, dunno i use gnome03:28
kajahodkahow can i get to that part of disc where is windows? I have some files on desktop and I don't know how to get there from Ubuntu :(03:28
ansi_escott ubuntu 2d, gnome, kde, xfce, xubuntu, etc03:29
escottkajahodka, it should appear as a disk in nautilus. i think if you are using wubi you might not be able to access the windows partitoin. not sure of that03:29
escottansi_, that is weird03:29
almoxarifekajahodka: a wubi install?03:29
marunkajahodka: ls /dev/disk/by-label/03:29
escottansi_, does the guest session work?03:29
viking667escott: actually, I had an issue where exactly that was happening... Not sure how I fixed it now.03:30
kajahodkaI'm using Ubuntu from USB03:30
marunkajahodka: then you can mount the partition to your fav directory03:30
ansi_the only thing that works is loggint in using ctrl + alt+ F203:30
kajahodkaI don't understand :D03:31
viking667kajahodka: as in, to the empty directory of your choice.03:31
dr_williswubi installs mount the windows disk to some /host/ or other mountpoint i recall03:31
ansi_presently i am just struggling hard to get almoxarife the patebin /var/log/syslog file03:31
almoxarifedr_willis: its a usb boot something03:31
viking667I need to figure out how to get a particular program (and libraries) installed properly.03:31
escottansi_, sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebin /var/log/syslog03:31
ansi_is there a way i can start crome or firefox from the terminal???03:31
dr_willisthen either nautilus could auto-mount it, or you can try mounting it by hand,03:31
dr_willisansi_:  'firefox' starts firefox..03:32
almoxarifeansi_: in terminal 'sudo pastebinit /var/log/syslog'03:32
dr_willisyou may want to do 'firefox &'03:32
almoxarifeansi_: share the link03:32
escottdr_willis, he doesn't have a gui03:32
dr_willisthen hes using the 'console' :)03:32
jagginessansi_, things with the gnome settings break when you flipflop through unity<->non-unity-gnome desktops..03:32
marunansi_: you said, you were able to open folder on your desktop. open the folder and navigate to /usr/bin/ and double click on firefox binary. Thats it03:32
jagginessansi_, i personally just wipe out my .<gnome> directory (after i soon did a new install of ubuntu-- but you have to analyze your own case)03:33
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ansi_SIRS  here it is.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361795/03:33
ansi_almoxarife   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361795/03:34
ansi_almoxarife   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361795/03:34
_DanN_where should link from /usr/include/linux point to ? or better - which package has content for this directory ?03:34
almoxarifeansi_: got it03:35
th3pun15h3ris there a gdm theme login manager for ubuntu?03:35
ansi_yeah.. thanks..03:35
ansi_oh god03:35
kajahodkathis is the first day I'm using Ubuntu, and I STILL DON'T KNOW how to get to my files from windows :D I'm not good in computers so go slowly :P03:35
th3pun15h3rboot ubuntu as a live cd on that machine03:36
stealekajahodka, have you installed ubuntu on the same machine? eg dual boot?03:36
DaemonicApathyInteresting line from ansi_'s paste: "Your BIOS is broken; DMAR reported at address 0!"03:36
th3pun15h3rwhen you get the desktop up, click top left icon of the ubuntu symbol, type terminal, click the terminal icon, type in sudo nautilus, find your drive.03:37
kajahodkasteale, i'm using ubuntu from USB03:37
DaemonicApathykajahodka: Chances are you have your windows partition listed near the bottom of the dash panel on the left.03:37
stealeAhh, then follow what th3pun15h3r said and everything should be shiny :)03:37
ansi_Daemonic03:37
kajahodkaDeamonicApathy, no it's not there..03:38
javierf_Hi! Is there a way to have wine 1.4 and 1.5 at the same time in the same ubuntu? I need to have installed 1.4, which works with crossover linux XI, but I saw some programs like photoshop are working with 1.5 and I would like to have it. So, is it possible? thanks!!03:38
escottDaemonicApathy, does that matter if he isn't using the iommu?03:38
ansi_DaemonicApathy i think the BIOS is just  okay as i just a few days ago upgraded it..and also that my dual boot win7 works pretty fine03:38
DaemonicApathyescott: No idea, I just figured I'd throw it out there so it wasn't missed.03:38
escottansi_, can you do the same for /var/log/Xorg.0.log03:39
th3pun15h3rI used the crunchbang 9.04.01 install script on a minimal install of ubuntu 12.04 the only thing I havent figured out how to fix is to either add a background on the gdm login manager or to install either slim or lightdm login manager in its place to get rid of the stupid blue screen background03:39
stealejavierf_, You should be able to compile both versions from source03:39
DaemonicApathykajahodka: Try th3pun15h3r's suggestion. If you still don't see your Windows drive listed, you can try using the Disk Utility to make sure it's mounted.03:40
javierf_steale, I see. So compiling would be the only way. Let's say, if I already have 1.4 installed, I would download 1.5 source code and compile it and have both working03:40
th3pun15h3rya gparted is a good idea03:41
stealekajahodka, run terminal and run the commands, mkdir /mnt/windows (or anything you would like eg /home/user/windows - whatever) then run fdisk -l and find the HDD name most likley /dev/sda1 then run the command sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /home/user/windows03:41
th3pun15h3ror the disk manager on ubuntu live cd as well03:41
DaemonicApathyI prefer that one for beginners, th3pun15h3r. gparted can get messy if you're not careful...03:41
ansi_escott this is for /varlog.syslog   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361795/ and this one is for /varlog.Xorg.0.log     http://paste.ubuntu.com/136179703:42
ansi_escott this is for /varlog.syslog   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361795/ and this one is for /varlog.Xorg.0.log     http://paste.ubuntu.com/136179703:42
escottansi_, no need to repeat03:42
th3pun15h3rya I forgot about disk manager just recently found out about that one I learned partitioning of linux with gparted03:42
th3pun15h3rand with pc repair at the shop i use to work ta03:42
ansi_problem is that i am not able to login with my regular user id.. the login screen keeps reappearing after i enter the password.. but i do get a glimpses of something that reads HWactivator and V runlevel compatibility03:44
ansi_DaemonicApathy i think the BIOS is just  okay as i just a few days ago upgraded it..and also that my dual boot win7 works pretty fine03:44
zykotick9steale: fdiskmustdie ;)  "parted -l" replaces "fdisk -l"  fdisk doesn't support gpt (replacement for msdos partitions, required for 2.XTB support.  and generally much nicer to work with, no limit on "primary" partitions :)03:45
escottansi_, did you enable encrypted home?03:46
ansi_escott what does that mean???03:46
aetheroAny good high-res screen recording software?03:46
escottansi_, when you installed there was an option for an encrypted home. did you enable it. does "ls /home/username" show your files (replacing username with your username03:47
ansi_escott wait03:47
escottansi_, although you are logged in at the console so im not sure what that means for ecryptfs03:48
ansi_escott it shows files03:48
DaemonicApathyaethero: There are a few options suggested in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161302303:48
escottansi_, and "mount | grep ecr" does that show anything03:48
almoxarifeansi_: pastebinit /var/log/auth.log03:48
ansi_mount | grep ecr dosent show anything03:49
Evil_Ericok guys im having a issue03:50
escottansi_, in addition to /var/log/auth.log can you also "pastebinit ~/.xsession-errors"03:50
ansi_almoxarife  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361810/03:50
ansi_i am presently chatting from another machine..03:50
ansi_i am presently chating from another windows machine03:51
Evil_Erici want to install DeVeDe but is says i must remove 3 file formats in order to install is there any way to install it and totally make the dependencies separate from this way they dont interfere with each other03:52
javierf_steale, why is it possible to install both from the source and not from the deb package?03:52
WeThePeoplehi03:53
th3pun15h3rhihi03:53
escottalmoxarife, i cant make sense of this "pam_succeed_if(lightdm:auth): requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user "ansi"" does that mean he is not allowed to login or that he is03:53
stealebecause when installing from the deb packages the package manager gets involved at starts dealing with dependencies and will try updating etc... if you are familiar with compiling from source etc it'll be simpler and probably more stable that trying to do it with .deb's if dpkg would even support 2 versions03:54
rolling!ops rolling is back03:54
ansi12_pastebinit /var/log/auth.log        http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361810/                pastebinit ~/.xsession-errors         http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361812/03:54
almoxarifeescott: he is not in the group (ansi) ?03:54
ansi_almoxarife i am now also logged in from my ubuntu pc as ansi12 also03:55
dougbbI want to switch to gnupg2 and the gnupg2 agent ... is it safe for me to delete gnome-keyring, or is that needed under the hood by [x]ubuntu?03:55
ansi12_almoxarife i just pasted the xsession and the auth.log earlier03:55
escottansi12_, i can see the problem now03:56
ansi12_oh ..please help me then03:56
ansi12_is there a way u can remote control?03:56
escottansi12_, hmmm03:58
escottansi12_, what does "whoami" say?03:58
ansi12_whoami03:58
escottansi12_, its a command like pastebinit03:58
ansi12_root03:59
escottansi12_, why are you root right now?03:59
ansi12_then how am i suppose to log in .. all i am doing is ctrl + alt+ f1 or f2 then  sudo startx04:00
escottansi12_, maybe you ran "sudo -i" out of convenience04:00
almoxarifeansi12_: you are logging in with a root account? root has a password, right?04:00
escottansi12_, that would have been helpful to know earlier :)04:00
ansi12_what does sudo -i do?04:00
escottansi12_, i need to see /home/ansi/xsession-errors.log04:00
ansi12_yesalmoxarife04:00
superfake123I am about 10 seconds away from purchasing this laptop http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834131383&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10440897&PID=3891137&SID=rewrite does anyone know if I'll be able to install Ubuntu on it?04:01
escottansi12_, ~ expands to your home I thought you were ansi, but you became /root with sudo -i... so thats confusing04:01
almoxarifeansi12_: but you dont have the password to 'ansi' , right?04:01
D-coy:]04:02
ansi12_almoxarife no i have the password.. what do u mean?04:02
escottsuperfake123, questions would be related to the network cards, but intel chips and intel graphics should be well supported04:03
ansi12_escott when i do pastebinit /home/ansi/xsession-errors.log it says Unable to read from: /home/ansi/xsession-errors.log04:03
jagginesssuperfake123, i'm guessing you like will be able to, even if its uefi04:03
jagginesssuperfake123, (./likely)04:04
escottansi12_, "ls -l /home/ansi | pastebinit"04:04
superfake123ok thanks guys!04:04
reduzhi guys help, i managed to get inird generated again, but when booting the latest kernel (3.5) I get an initramfs prompt complaining that it gave up waiting for the hard drive (using a previous kernel, 3.2 works fine). Any ideas?04:04
jagginesssuperfake123, however the support for the trackpad and touhscreen are likely not supported :)04:04
ikoniareduz: where did you get that kernel ?04:05
ansi12_escott http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361830/04:05
ansi12_almoxarife??04:05
nicekiwican you force fullscreen apps to run in windowed mode with commandline params?04:06
ansi12_almoxarife i know the password.. and thats how i have logged in to this session04:06
escottansi12_, sorry my typo "pastebinit /home/ansi/.xsession-errors"04:06
reduzikonia, it's the ubuntu 12.10 kernel, i can't get it to work after i upgraded from 12.0404:07
ikoniareduz: why did you re-generate the initramfs ?04:07
ansi12_escott http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361833/04:07
jagginessnicekiwi, i tend to use workspaces with keyboard shortcuts.. it's much easier04:07
ansi12_escott http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361833/04:07
nicekiwijagginess, explain..04:07
reduzikonia, after upgrade, initrd was not generated anymore because for some reason update-initramfs was empty and some update-initramfs.distrib was there instead.  Probably a bug in the ubuntu update process04:08
jagginessnicekiwi, you should  know.. since you're already asking a cli question :)04:08
escottansi12_, aggh this is why you dont run sudo startx. its probably your XAUTHORITY file.04:08
ikoniareduz: don't think so04:08
ikoniasounds like your upgrade hasn't worked04:08
escottansi12_, try "ls -al /home/ansi | grep root" and any files you see there owned by root probably need to be removed04:09
nicekiwijagginess, ur answer makes sense assuming the shortcuts work and assuming the app dosnt resize ur screen res..04:09
ansi12_like delete??04:09
jagginessreduz, you should try to type apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade,04:09
reduzikonia, jagginess  well, I didn't do anything weird or tinkered with anything while upgrading and it seems to have completed, so I assume it is a bug04:09
ikoniareduz: not seen anyone else reporting it, it maybe worth you checking on launchpad.net04:10
ansi12_escott ls -al /home/ansi | grep root04:10
ansi12_drwxr-xr-x   3 root root     4096 Mar 26  2012 ..04:10
ansi12_-rw-------   1 root root      100 Nov 16 00:20 .Xauthority04:10
ansi12_-rw-------   1 root root   504987 Nov 16 09:16 .xsession-errors04:10
FloodBot1ansi12_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:10
reduzikonia, i did see people reporting it on older ubuntu versions04:10
ikonianever seen it, check for bug reports04:10
escott!gksudo | ansi12_ in the future don't use sudo startx or sudo gui04:10
ubottuansi12_ in the future don't use sudo startx or sudo gui: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)04:10
ansi12_escott what do i do now?04:10
wantsfishDoes Chrome browser work for Ubuntu 12.10  64bit?04:11
ikonialooks to me like the upgrade didn't complete, so it didn't move the new file into place04:11
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escottansi12_, rm /home/ansi/.Xauthority /home/ansi/.xsession-errors04:11
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ansi12_escott did it now what??04:11
ansi12_should i reboot now??04:12
escottansi12_, ctrl-alt-f7 and see if you can login04:12
reduzikonia, in any case, i fixed that by following instructions from this post - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1155702804:12
melvincvhi, what is the easiest way to change the default entry in GRUB menu? I'm still struggling with GRUB 2. The legacy version was much simpler. Now I need to do that without adding a PPA. Preferably without any extra software04:12
ansi_no cant login and as soon as i did ctrl +alt f7 i can only see blackscreen04:13
reduzikonia, but now the kernel wont boot, it can't find the hard drive device by uuid and i don't know where to configure that. older kernel works fine04:13
chaingunmelvincv: look for update-grub or something like that04:13
ansi_excott no cant login and as soon as i did ctrl +alt f7 i can only see blackscreen04:13
zykotick9melvincv: edit /etc/default/grub then run "sudo update-grub", then reboot for many of the options04:13
ansi_escott no cant login and as soon as i did ctrl +alt f7 i can only see blackscreen04:13
chaingunyou don;t have to manually change anything, it auto-detects04:13
ansi_not thereis nothing ctrl+alt+f7  =  black screen with text and ctrl +alt+f1 black screen04:14
escottansi_, ok then i guess reboot and try and login normally04:14
melvincvzykotick9: what should I edit? I have GRUB_DEFAULT=saved now. But I'm not sure how that works.04:14
zykotick9melvincv: what do you want to do?04:14
melvincvset Windows 7 as the default OS for now.04:15
ansi_escott doing it04:15
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reduzi have no way to fix this myself, since grub 2 does not have menu.lst anymore04:16
melvincvwhy is that so hard? I also tried update-grub and grub-set-default. Not working.04:16
escottreduz, its /boot/grub/grub.cfg now04:16
holyguyverI think a sector on my internal hard drive just went bad. I just lost over 80% of my data files including config files for many of my programs. On the plus side I had 98% of it backed up. On the bad side, I am wondering how I can temperarily restore my drive. I am trying to use command line tools but they are not working for me. Any GUI tools for it?04:17
melvincvI'd like to edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg directly.04:17
reduzescott, that file is like reading chinese to me04:18
escottholyguyver, put it in the freezer04:18
ikoniamelvincv: what's stopping you04:18
escottreduz, really its almost identical to menu.lst04:18
melvincvAnd block update-grub from updating that file04:18
holyguyverescott, how, it is an internal hard drive inside of a desktop04:18
ansi_escott!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!... i am back in!!!!!!! :D thankyou thankyou!!!... ure the man!!04:18
escottholyguyver, phillips head screwdriver04:18
ansi_wow!!!!.. ure a hero!!04:19
melvincvmaybe rename update-grub?04:19
escott!gksudo | ansi_ this is really important so remember it04:19
ubottuansi_ this is really important so remember it: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)04:19
holyguyverescott: I would rather not go around removing hard drives04:19
escottholyguyver, if its failing mechanically there isn't anything in software that will fix it04:19
ansi_escott!! can u please give me the knowledge of what had happened?? and what do do in such situations.. pardon me.. but i am fairly ignarant and have very less knwledge of linux and ubuntu04:20
holyguyverEsa_: I know, but there are commandline recovery tools that sya they help with bad sectors, so I was wondering if there are any GUI front ends04:20
holyguyvershit I meant escott04:21
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ansi_escott!! can u please give me the knowledge of what had happened?? and what do do in such situations.. pardon me.. but i am fairly ignarant and have very less knwledge of linux and ubuntu04:22
escottansi_, XAuthority is a file that controls who has permission to draw to the screen. without the contents of the XAuthority file you cannot draw to the screen. you ran a gui application with sudo which saw that the XAuthority file it was looking at was not owned by root and said "well thats not secure" and changed the ownership of it to root.04:22
melvincv(newbies don't try this) Ok, so I will be editing grub.cfg and renaming update-grub. Hope I don't break my system. And I should remember to restore it before a kernel update. Right?04:23
escottansi_, which is all well and good except that the Xauthority it was looking at was /home/ansi/.Xauthority locking you out of your own gui04:23
escottholyguyver, never heard or a command line tool to deal with bad sectors04:23
ansi_and then now u asked me to remove the file right??04:24
holyguyverescott:  Okay, thanks for trying to help04:24
escottansi_, so it could generate a new one with correct permissions04:25
javierf_Hi! to compile a program I need to run "./configure prefix=/path/to/install/directory && make". If I'm in downloads folder, how to write the path? absolute way?04:25
OerHeksmelvincv, to backup: cp /boot/grub/grub.cf /boot/grub/grub.cf.bak04:25
escottjavierf_, first check if the program is in apt. there should be a -- before the "prefix", and finally use checkinstall instead of make install04:25
escottjavierf_, and yes absolute paths04:26
OerHeksmelvincv, oops i missed the g.04:26
melvincvholyguyver: there is a command line tool, but it should be run ONLY from the live cd. $ sudo e2fsck -c <device file>04:26
javierf_escott, thing is, it's wine when I already have another version installed. So, I need to use prefix to set a different directory. But I can't run the command even using absolute directories, keep saying that the folder can't be found04:27
melvincvOerHeks: thanks, but I was asking if I could rename update-grub :)04:27
holyguyvermeLon: what will that do?04:27
holyguyvermelvincv:04:27
escottjavierf_, you may need to make the folder or something04:27
ansi_thanks a TON Escott!!!!!! ur ethe MAN!!.... thanks a lot for helping me!!.. please.. if all u are listening!!.. escott is a HERO!!!.. a really helpful person who just helped a stranger !!!!!!04:28
melvincvholyguyver: that should not be run on a mounted partition. So you asked me something?04:28
escottansi_, this is actually a really easy thing to fix once i found out you were running sudo startx04:28
holyguyvermelvincv: what does that command do?04:28
javierf_escott, but I already did that. I placed a folder called .wine1510 inside my home folder, and wrote the command like this: "javier@javier:~/Descargas/wine-1.5.10$ ./configure --prefix=home/javier/.wine1510 &&make" (being javier my user name)04:29
OerHeksmelvincv, sure, but then upgrade cannot find grub.cfg to edit, and reboot get stuck too04:29
escottjavierf_, /home not home04:29
ansi12escott it would've been easy for you but it was like a life saver for me..! thanks man!!!04:30
javierf_escott, no luck, also tried that...04:30
escottholyguyver, man e2fsck | grep -C5 -- -c04:30
holyguyvermelvincv: I am currently using the command line programs of RecoverDM, ExtUndelete, & Foremost04:30
ansi12i'll remember that.04:30
escottholyguyver, and not something you should be doing... if the disk is going bad turn it into a necklace don't try and salvage the good parts of it04:30
ansi_letme reloginback and see04:30
javierf_escott, this is what i get: "bash: ./configure: the file or the directory don't exist"04:30
escottjavierf_, are you in the folder where you unpacked the source04:31
melvincvholyguyver: that checks for bad blocks and adds them to the bad blocks inode. But I'm not sure if the info stays if the drive is formatted :(04:31
escottmelvincv, no it would not04:31
holyguyvermelvincv: It doesnt04:31
t_Is there a Que system for asking for help?04:31
javierf_escott, yes, I am. But I will make sure again, often this kind of thing have at the end a stupid explanation04:31
escottt_ no04:31
holyguyvermelvincv: I have been a linux user since 2003, I know enough to know how formatting works04:31
gunarm1is ddrescue of any use for an SSD with bad blocks?04:32
escottjavierf_, it could be an autotools autoconf program. perhaps they didn't ship a ./configure04:32
escottgunarm1, sure04:32
escottgunarm1, in some sense no04:33
superfake123what is the 'current' best setup for ssd? I read i should not use discard and just do fstrim once a day?04:33
escottgunarm1, if the ssd doesn't show a block it will never find it because the ssd doesn't give access to the raw storage, but you can dd the remaining blocks the ssd knows about04:33
melvincvOh, too bad. I ran that command on an old HDD that had bad blocks. Maybe just use it without reformatting? :)04:33
t_Ok so I have been unable to create a network share folder using ubuntu. It will let me right click and share the folder but then when I try to open it with another pc it tells me that it is unable to mount. So then I shared a folder outside of my home folder and it worked. So I'm wondering, is Ubuntu unable to share a folder within a Encrypted home folder?04:34
gunarm1escott, I was just wondering if ddrescue algorithms worked on  SSD and not just magnetic drives04:34
melvincvholyguyver: I respect that. I'm a user since 2008.04:34
escottgunarm1, i dont know what algorithms there are. you read the data and leave holes where you cant get a good read04:34
gunarm1i see04:34
escottt_, yes. (unless you are logged in at that particular momen)04:35
t_Hum.. it was logged in and still wouldn't mount, interesting.04:36
t_But I'll try creating a folder outside of my home folder for the sake of sharing that.04:36
escottt_, if they are smart about it they will disable sharing within the ecryptfs just to avoid confusion when people are logged out (because most will test when they are logged in and be very angry to find out its not working when they are in hawaii)04:37
what_ifI need autoconf 2.64 on my system, but 2.68 will not uninstall. All sorts of intersting errors. Ideas?04:37
escottwhat_if, you should be able to install multiple versions of autotools04:38
what_ifescott: hmm, brb04:38
holyguyvermelvincv: I at least know enough that when someone gives me a commandline command in this room, I know enough to ask "& what does that do?" before using that ;) otherwisew people tell you to delete "/" :p04:39
jmfurlottAnyone installed 12.10 on Mac with any luck?04:40
domain_here is a rather simple question: can i install different distro's to a removable 1tb HD? (without format?) is it as simple as shrinking and resizing and creating extended partitions with custom partition table?04:40
escottdomain_, maybe. if your bios supports it04:41
melvincvholyguyver: :) very good to have an understanding about the command. I appreciate that.04:41
marunI want to mount nfs shares from my nfs-kernel-server (ubuntu) on windows. How do i do that? when i type \\IP_Address, it is not showing the mounts04:42
domain_escott, my bios WILL allow me... after the new partition, i need TWO data tables for /home and /boot correct?04:42
melvincvholyguyver: In fact, I mentioned a command, but that's not the first step. You might have noticed. If you just run e2fsck -c it will print a message only :)04:43
escottdomain_, if your bios does support it then treat is as if it were a normal internal disk04:43
marunanyone faced same issue?04:44
polarbearwhen i click start on virtualbox,  that have rainbow screen,   not loading windows,  what's this?04:44
BronzeTotteI’m a newbie to Linux.  I need help installing my printer which is Samsung CLX-3185.  Ubuntu 12.10 does not have the right drivers.  I, therefore, have downloaded the following from Samsung’s website: PrintSettingUtility, Smartpanel and UnifiedLinuxDriver.  I have been unsuccessful in installing these drivers in Ubuntu 12.10.  What should I do?  Anyone able to give me a helping hand?04:44
marunhelp please!04:45
lolcatBronzeTotte: follow the readme04:45
escottmarun, you need an nfs client for windows. make the unix services thing from microsoft will offer that04:45
MayazcherquoiHmm04:45
melvincv***Safety and security of all users first, for all the people I help. But I'm not perfect. So, always better to cross check with some documentation before running a command.04:45
MayazcherquoiWhere is the cheapest place to buy a .com domain name?04:45
domain_escott, dumb question but will it install to a logical partition?04:45
escottdomain_, sure linux doesn't care04:46
BronzeTotteI've tried following the readme, but without success.04:46
marunescott: let me check. thnx04:46
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escott!samba | marun alternately use:04:46
ubottumarun alternately use:: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.04:46
domain_escott, sry buggin you... last question.. is there a quicker way to create a new partition than GPARTED? is has to read the 1TB is 4MB blocks before moving... which takes 9hrs... is there a quicker way??04:47
melvincvexit04:47
escottdomain_, huh?04:47
marunthank you guys :)04:48
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domain_escott, in order to create a new partition on my external it needs to"shrink and resize" the 1TB... before it does this process it "reads" the drive in 4MB blocks04:49
domain_escott, it takes forever04:49
escottdomain_, if you have to shrink the partition thats just how long its going to take04:49
domain_escott, damn... ok.... thank you04:50
escottdomain_, its often faster for large and relatively empty drives to copy the data off, then create new tables and move it back04:50
domain_escott, i was thinking the same thing but it's 700GB of existing data and no where else to drop it... i will just wait for the shrink04:52
escottdomain_, then the resize is faster. the resize will move ~300GB copying off and back is 1400GB04:52
BronzeTotteHas anyone successfully installed a Samsung CLX-3185 printer in Ubuntu 12.10?04:52
gunarm1man, escott, trying to run ddrescue on this 60G SSD and getting errorsize=9223 PB, that cant be good04:53
gunarm1lol04:53
escottgunarm1, i've heard SSD's do that... start reporting they are a lot bigger or smaller than they really are04:53
escottgunarm1, http://blog.valerieaurora.org/2008/09/13/to-ssd-or-not-to-ssd/04:54
escottgunarm1, our could probably have an SSD that reports infinite size if one of the block mappings points back on itself04:55
what_ifescott: multuple versions installed. Assumed they would conflict... thanks :)04:56
escottwhat_if, no autotools is built for that usecase04:56
escottwhat_if, developers tend not to like being unable to compile their program because a dependency is slow to upgrade their version of autotools04:56
ses1984i'm trying to install over a network. i'm at the step "choose a mirror of the ubuntu archive" and i want to select my own url,04:57
what_ifescott: yeah, we have a defined environment /build server at work, at home.. I am on my own. Thanks again04:57
ses1984this guide says i should be able to do that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet04:57
ses1984but there doesn't seem to be a way to do that, i can just choose us.archive.ubuntu.com or go back04:57
gunarm1do you think I should just l let it continue? I know it can take days,05:00
gunarm1escott05:00
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escottgunarm1, well now that its started it would be a really bad idea to stop it05:01
gunarm1escott, also, i thought SSD's had gotten better recently... this is the first one I ever tried05:01
escottgunarm1, sorry05:01
gunarm1heh05:01
escottconfused your question for another one05:01
gunarm1ah05:01
escottssd's are they better... maybe, but you can't change the underlying fact that its a firmware filesystem05:02
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b0whello! how can i reboot ubuntu 12.10 on recoveyr mode or someway so i can access system config/BIOS/UEFI?05:02
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eric94how do you get online games to play after you download them05:02
escottb0w, "reboot"05:02
almoxarifeses1984: you dont have the option 'enter manually'?05:03
ses1984nope05:03
b0wescott, uh? seriously?05:03
jagginesseric94, i thought the bottom mouse button starts games05:04
eric94how do you get shaiya to play on linix it keeps saying somthing is missing05:04
jagginesseric94, the button is in near/ the laser point, if you just look right there :) zzzzzapp!!05:04
gunarm1man I thought I was behind the times by having all these hdds, wouldn't you know I would go out on a limb and try to get hip on my server os drive hosting my 10TB raid array and headless deluge webclient which was super hard to set up05:04
gunarm1but thanks escott, ill let it run05:04
escottb0w, if you are at the console thats how you reboot05:05
ses1984i've tried expert install in order to manually select a mirror, and it gave me more options but still didn't let me enter a url05:05
escottgunarm1, i really wish they sold consumer level raw NAND05:05
ses1984it asks me for the protocol, then country, then gives me a mirror05:06
BronzeTotteAnyone know anything about Samsung CLX-3185?05:06
escottses1984, you could modify the iso to include your url05:06
ses1984ahh i see in the country list at the very top i can enter manually.05:06
ms_hello hello!!!!05:06
MalaiseGreetings05:07
ms_I need some help please!!!05:08
ms_so that. is here a channel that can help me to improve my English?????05:09
jagginessms_, try rosetta software05:09
jagginesslol05:09
escott!alis | ms_05:09
ubottums_: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*05:09
jagginessms_, (it works under wine)05:09
domain_ms_, English Language packs are available through your repo (lol)05:10
goldy2425hi05:10
dfgas-cr48where does php-pear install to?05:10
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domain_anyone here like xubuntu?05:12
topper4125dfgas-cr48, /home/"username"/pear05:12
ms_for all: ok thanks05:12
BronzeTotteQuit05:13
topper4125domain_, I don't really care for the xubuntu distro, but I do use XFCE in place of unity.05:14
KM0201no real difference topophil105:16
KM0201oops  topper412505:16
topper4125KM0201, Gedit instead of leafpad, Nautilus instead of Thunar, a few differfences that with a regular Ubuntu install means I don't have to bother with the whole install/uninstall process... but other than that... ya, no real difference.05:17
gh403So I'm doing execl("/bin/bash", "bash", "/tmp/script"); right?05:18
gh403And the script executes fine.  But when I run my program as root, the script doesn't inherit root as far as I can tell.  What gives?05:18
jagginessgh403, users are allowed to write in ~ and /tmp , /tmp has a special chmod (1777)05:23
jagginesstopper4125, you can also use the 'mate desktop' and gnome-classic in ubuntu05:24
topper4125jagginess, yup :) I have a bunch of DE's installed, but of all of them, XFCE is my fav... was the easiest to tweak for my style of use, and seems to be the fastest for my 'lil atom processor.05:26
eric94-f05:26
jagginesstopper4125, yeah for notebook power, gnome is a real power sucker with its effects on05:27
topper4125jagginess, for this system, using KDE is like dumping syrup on the motherboard lol05:28
eric94-n05:29
topper4125<-- has a single core 1.66 atom processor, 1 Gig DDR 3, on board Intel graphics, the smaller footprint the DE has (While still being functional with my style of use) the better.05:30
KM0201topper4125: i meant, no real difference in using xfce on Ubuntu, rather than usinb Xubuntu(the distro)... it's the same thing.05:30
brandinhesshi05:30
jagginesstopper4125, also the chrome browser set to ram cache only saves power05:31
KM0201of course I know there's differences between Unity/Gnome and Xfce05:31
Tempus_Fugithello all I need some help, I can login as guest running 12.04 however if I try to login as a user on my system it only loads my wallpaper however nothing else shows up, everything is still here its like the gui is not loading I have gone into recovery and ran low graphics mode and it seems to all work however when i login normal I can get any gui to load up? any ideas before I try to backup my files and reload the whole OS?05:32
gh403jagginess: I see, thanks.05:32
ses1984i'm trying to enter my own mirror during an ubuntu installation, and it keeps saying bad archive mirror.05:33
jagginessI use " exec -a "$0" "$HERE/chrome" " --disk-cache-dir=/dev/shm/$USER " "$@"         "   (without the surround first and last quotation marks)   i replace the last line of /opt/google/chrome/google-chrome       , if anyone is interested05:33
ses1984when i put the hostname in, as the name or ip, without a trailing slash, and i check the logs, it's trying to wget files from "hostnamedirname" without a slash in between.05:33
ses1984so i try to re-enter the hostname with a trailing slash, and go through the menu, and it says bad archive mirror again, but in the log it didn't try to wget anything05:34
Tempus_Fugitfrom recovery root shell how do I copy each users home folder to the external F: drive?05:34
escottTempus_Fugit, try unity --reset05:34
LLStarkshow do i unbuntu myself?05:35
Tempus_Fugitescott: from root shell?05:35
escottTempus_Fugit, no05:35
Tempus_Fugitescott: ok how?05:35
topper4125ya... the underpinnings are identical, the only real differences really are superficial, like some of the pre-installed packages, which have nothing to do with the DE, just ghat for the utilities I like to run, some/most of them come with the Ubuntu Distro, with xubuntu, I have to do a 'small' bit of tweaking to get them. (like Nautilus vs Thunar)... other than 'utilities' they are the same platform.05:35
escottTempus_Fugit, best to do this from the console. boot up. ctrl-alt-f105:36
Tempus_Fugitescott: login as myself then when I get nothing but wallpaper and no unity or dock then try the ctrl-alt-f1?05:37
escottTempus_Fugit, yep. then export DISPLAY=:0 and try the unity --reset05:37
escottTempus_Fugit, then sudo service lightdm restart and see if that makes things better05:37
escottTempus_Fugit, or run unity --reset from the low graphics mode05:38
escottthat may be easier for you05:38
Tempus_Fugitescott: ok thank you will try that then ill be back05:38
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eric94hely05:41
sathishHi, when I close the my laptop lid and open it after some time, screen becomes non-responsive, mouse cursor moves but everything else is freezed how do I correct that?05:42
djjeffim running quantal 12.10 with gnome-panel (gnome session fallback) how do I get a taskbar like windows with icon only window list?05:42
escott!reisub | sathish then check the /var/log/dmesg.log05:42
ubottusathish then check the /var/log/dmesg.log: In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key05:42
sathishI can drop into CLI by ctrl+alt+f2 but I don't what process to restart.05:43
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sathishescott: is there anyway I can restart any particular process and get it working again, without restarting the whole thing?05:44
escottsathish, well you can check dmesg there. you can also try and restart the gui service with "service lightdm restart"05:44
sathishescott: me is not nerdy enuf to understand those logs :(05:45
escottsathish, you can pastebinit to us05:46
topper4125djjeff, install the Talika gnome panel applet, it displays icons only, no window names.05:46
Makkusuentify dball9905:46
grendal_primeso for some reason now when i shutmy laptop all the way down05:46
djjefftopper4125: talika isnt supported on quantal05:46
topper4125djjeff, really??? suprised to read that.05:47
djjeffI have used talika on 10.0405:47
grendal_primeand bring it back up it gives me a message about waiting another 60 seconds for the network to start?  then when the desktop finally does come up i have to wait another 60 seconds for the wireless to start working05:47
escott!info pastebinit | sathish05:47
ubottusathish: pastebinit (source: pastebinit): command-line pastebin client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-2ubuntu3 (quantal), package size 15 kB, installed size 172 kB05:47
grendal_primewtf is that all about?05:47
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grendal_primeive see that happen when there is some crazy stuff in the interfaces file (aparently network-manager is not a big fan of that now05:48
grendal_primebut the only thing i have in there is an auto up for eth0  and i thought that nm put that in there05:48
sathishescott: thanks a ton "sudo service lightdm restart" worked great, now pastebining /var/log/dmesg since I don't have /var/log/dmesg.log file :)05:48
escottsathish, sounds like everything is working except something with X05:49
escottsathish, maye you are running nvidia or amd proprietary drivers05:49
djjeffI love linux and ubuntu for some reason I see myself STUCK with microsoft for games cause of " DIRECT X 11 "05:50
Evil_Ericescott good work with helping out sathish i been lurking reading this one cause it happens from time to time with me also05:50
jagginessgrendal_prime, you shouldnt touch the interfaces file, unless you completely disable networkmanager, or if you have network-manager configured not to touch interfaces defined configured by the interfaces file05:50
jagginessgrendal_prime, (man NetworkManager.conf<enter> shows the manual page)05:50
sathishescott: when I cat dmesg file, It showed something about Optimus chip, If I remember correctly that was the reason linus raised his finger recently :D05:51
escottsathish, yeah05:51
jagginessgrendal_prime, there's alot of outdated documentation out there.. there's acutally cli command for nm (nmcli, nm<tab><tab>)05:51
jagginessgrendal_prime, i was in your place a few years ago..05:51
jagginessgrendal_prime, takes time to get used to05:51
escottjagginess, i always had the impression nmcli was only useful for bringing up defined profiles not for creating profiles05:52
topper4125djjeff, DockbarX is simular to Talika, from what I just read Talika isn't supported anymore :o05:53
djjefftopper4125 I have dockbarx installed it is nice05:53
djjeffjust doesnt interact well with gnome panel05:53
djjeffor havent found a way to add gnome menu to dockbarx05:53
djjeffhonestly.... I hate unity05:54
topper4125ya... me too, that's why I moved to XFCE (has icon only built it btw).05:55
sathishescott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361925/ this is the dmesg file :)05:55
djjeffmy friends are telling me to switch to linux mint with xfce05:56
topper4125*... built IN05:56
djjeffI might try linux mint in a VM first05:56
escottsathish, im not going to have much to say about it if you are using prop drivers. i thought it was freezing not that the gui wasnt restarting correctly05:56
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Guest44330I have dual boot window and ubuntu. From Yesterday  ubuntu is not showing window c  partition. How to get it back05:57
topper4125Mint isn't bad... almost went with it back when I was 'Distro-shopping' they put a lot of work in their distro05:57
Guest44330Any Idea, Any One ?05:58
sathishescott: I'm not using any prop drivers I guess, but anyway your earlier sugesstion to restart lightdm is good enough for me, just pasted the log, just so u know. Thanks a lot. Have a great day :)05:58
jagginesstopper4125,  not really.. they use repositories from debian and ubuntu05:58
jagginesstopper4125,  ( i tested their latest mate 13, the developers forgot to include the latest keyrings with it)05:58
escottsathish, if you aren't using prop its a little strange why it wouldnt come back correctly. intel should be well supported, but optimus may throw a wrench in things05:58
escottGuest44330, does it not show in os-prober05:59
holsteinGuest44330: ubuntu wont show C:... it'll show the windows partition... it'll show up like a USB stick does in the filemanager05:59
jagginesstopper4125,  (mate desktop is available on ubuntu)05:59
Evil_Ericso far ubuntu is the only linux os that actually shows the amd admin panel gui when i click it the rest wont even bring up the enter password to acc the catalyst gui05:59
Guest44330escott: Yes06:00
beyxiahello06:00
Guest44330escott:  I think i have to install ntfs-config ?06:00
Evil_Ericbut then again this laptop isnt made for linux either (or at least componet wise isnt very linux friendly )06:00
topper4125I'm having a weird problem with keyrings on my other netbook, the dialog to enter root password keeps poppiing up for some unknown reason, and it doesn't tell me what app/process is asking for it.06:01
holsteinGuest44330: are you trying to boot windows? or mount the windows partition from inside ubuntu?06:01
jhansonxiEvil_Eric: There is a bug in the script that affects Xfce: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/101902306:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1019023 in fglrx-installer (Ubuntu) ""AMD Catalyst Control Center (Administrative)" Shortcut Does Nothing" [Undecided,Confirmed]06:01
GarybombHi06:01
escott!info ntfs-3g | Guest4433006:01
ubottuGuest44330: ntfs-3g (source: ntfs-3g): read/write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component main, is standard. Version 1:2012.1.15AR.5-4ubuntu3 (quantal), package size 429 kB, installed size 1510 kB06:01
Evil_Ericjhansonxi oh i dint know that thanks for the info ill read on it now06:02
Guest44330holstein: Actullay Ubuntu is showing the partition created in window but now it is not showing the window partitoin created in ntfs06:02
jhansonxiEvil_Eric: That script seems a bit weak and may have trouble determining what sudo front-end to use with your distros.06:02
torphiquahi06:04
jagginesshi06:04
holsteinGuest44330: just keep elaborating for the volunteers here.. "now", as in, it used to? what is "it".. maybe output 'sudo fdisk -l' in pastebin for reference06:04
torphiquacan u help me a06:04
jagginess!ask06:04
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience06:04
escottholstein, uggggghhhh fdisk must die06:04
Evil_Ericjhansonxi i dont have the issue with this right now but now i wanna try mint for awhile but i dont wanna dump my computer and start over ive put to much work into the gui06:04
torphiquai want to help ubuntu developers and become one of them06:05
torphiquaso can u tell me the steps06:05
escotttorphiqua, launchpad.net06:05
torphiquayeah i ve looked there but which specifies should i have?06:06
ikoniaif you can't read the documentation on how to contribute to ubuntu - your chances of being able to contribute ids zero06:06
ikonia!contribute | torphiqua06:06
ubottutorphiqua: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu06:06
KM0201ikonia: lol, so harsh, but so true.06:06
ikonia"contribute | torphiqua06:06
holsteintorphiqua: maybe look for a team to join.. one that you can help with to get experience06:07
holsteintorphiqua: bugs always need attention..06:07
jagginessfirst he has to make an account.. he hasn't even read up on how to do that.. so yes.. your chances of contributing starts with bug reporting..06:07
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food1My cursor is just annoying . I don't know why it just goes too faster suddenly. For example when i am reading PDF book and scroll down to the next pages using mouse's wheel.  But it suddenly go much faster.06:14
food1I don't know what is the problem06:15
grendal_primedoes anyone use kazam screen caster?06:16
food1Anyone can help me please?06:16
grendal_primeim having problems with it just...bailing out and not doing anything06:16
grendal_primefood1,  whats the problem?06:16
food1grendal_prime, Suddenly cursor go faster such as on Firefox and when reading pdf books06:18
jmfurlottI just installed 12.10.  My wifi says connected but I am getting no internet?06:20
Melvinwho's here?06:20
food1jmfurlott, It happen for me but sometime reconnect works06:21
Melvincan someone help me out with configuring ethernwt on my lenovo G580??/06:22
MelvinI'm on backtrack. but the config goes the same for ubuntu and BT. so help please!06:22
purpleguywhat are you trying to configure it to do?06:23
Melvinenable my LAN adapter!06:23
OerHeksMelvin, you have been told where to go for backtrack, it is not supported here.06:23
jmfurlottfood1, even after a reboot, it doesn't work06:24
jmfurlottfood1, just kidding <306:26
OerHeksjmfurlott can you ping a website? or use 216.239.51.99 directly for google?06:26
jmfurlottOerHeks, its working.  I tried pinging too but it looks like a reboot fixed it06:27
jmfurlottOerHeks, well at 25 kb/s which is weird06:27
OerHeksjmfurlott, if ping works, it is a DNS issue06:28
jmfurlottOerHeks, pinging did not06:28
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c0d3br3ak3rhow can i disable auto-login from command line ?06:38
ikoniasop06:40
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OerHeksc0d3br3ak3r, i think you can edit etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf06:42
c0d3br3ak3rwill it work on kde ?06:43
c0d3br3ak3ri am using kde on that system06:43
morphiaswhere can i get help on releasing a program into a pre-existing repo or my own?06:44
ikoniamorphias: what help do you need ?06:45
morphiasi just wrote my first linux app in QT and I want to know how to publish it somewhere for other people to download.06:45
ikoniamorphias: package it into a deb (do you know how to do that ?) and then host it in a repo or a PPA ?06:46
ikonialast melvin06:46
ikoniaoops06:46
jmfurlottOerHeks, wait you're right06:46
morphiasikonia, i dont know how to package things into a deb but then i need to figure out how to host it (yes)06:46
jmfurlottOerHeks, I lost internet again even though it says I am connected.  It pings google with the address you gave me though and then loops into "From 10.0.1.1 icmp_seq=xx Destination net unreachable"06:47
ikonia!packaging | morphias06:47
ubottumorphias: The packaging guide is at http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/  - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports and !sponsoring06:47
dragonflyhey guys, can anybody help with downgrading from 12.10 to 12.04 ?06:47
ikoniadragonfly: can't do it06:47
dragonflyikonia: Quantal is so buggy and running very slow06:48
ikoniaok06:48
dragonflyikonia: any way I can go back to precise without losing my data ?06:48
domain_dragonfly: why downgrade?06:49
ikoniadragonfly: back up your data, re-install, restore your data06:49
dragonflydomain_ : Because its too buggy and slow06:49
dragonflyikonia: is it safe to backup the data from encrypted home directory and then restore back ?06:49
ikoniadragonfly: yes06:50
J11_if a user gets removed, do the processes get killed too?06:52
topper4125dragonfly, you could do a fresh install of 12.04 and keep the data in your /home directory if you select manual partitioning and select the currently used partition(s) but NOT format them. however some of the config files for the apps you alreasy used with 12.10 may have overwritten their config files with a newer version which is incompatitible with the older apps coming in with 12.04. that may lead to problems with those apps.06:52
dragonflyikonia: Alright, I'll do this today, By the way, is there any estimated figure you can provide about normal booting time of a fresh installation of Ubuntu ? I am running it on a core i7 processor with 10 GB of RAM and it takes about 5 minutes to boot up06:52
ikoniano06:52
ikoniacertainly quicker than 5 minutes06:52
ikoniadragonfly: suggestion, don't use encyption unless you have a genuine need06:52
dragonflytopper4125: I have a couple of partitions encrypted, does that matters anyhow ?06:53
J11_I used to have a student shell account, seems irssi still runs in screen06:53
dragonflyikonia: any way to safely remove the encryption ?06:53
ikoniadragonfly: do it when you re-install06:54
jagginessdragonfly, shouldnt take no more than 30-45 seconds06:56
jmfurlottAnyone know why a ping would connect but then return a "Destination Net Unreachable" error?06:56
* jagginess accidentally used a double negative06:56
dragonflyikonia: but the home directory is already encrypted on Quantal, what if I just reinstall the Precise ? Will I lose the partition or it will ask me for key to unlock the partition ?06:56
ikoniadragonfly: you can unlock it06:57
jagginessjmfurlott, traceroute may say where the problem is06:57
ikoniadragonfly: I'd suggest backing up the data a.) to be safe b.) remove the encuption06:57
topper4125dragonfly, to be honest, I don't play with encrypted drives... like ikonia said, only use them if you have a genuine need, can't honestly say what would happen.06:57
dragonflyikonia: OK, thanks06:58
topper4125if possible, burn what you can of /home to a dvd, thumbdrives, whatever you can find, and hope for the best, that's about all I can tell ya for clawing back to 12.0406:58
jmfurlottjagginess, how does tracenet work?06:58
jmfurlotttraceroute*06:58
arunkumar413how to share laptop wireless  internet with other computer over ethernet06:58
IdleOne!ics06:59
ubottuIf you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing06:59
dragonflytopper4125: I have some genuine reasons thats why I put up the encryption on drive, anyway, I am looking for a way to remove the encryption now, maybe google can help07:00
john_ramboI want to save/copy  a flash video. I am using FF. WHat is the path to cache?07:04
EdLinjohn_rambo, that varies, it's random for security purposes.07:05
EdLinjohn_rambo, you should instead get a Firefox extension that'll do it for you.07:05
john_ramboEdLin, Okay07:06
topper4125keepvid.com does a pretty good job of allowing you to download hosted video, from a number of sites, and various formats (Great for youtube and vimeo)07:09
jmfurlottIs vesa the best driver I could be using for a Radeon 4xxx? No way?07:14
KM0201jmfurlott: does it work?07:16
KM0201or are you having problems with it?07:16
jmfurlottKM0201, Unity's pretty painful and I can't play youtube a full screen07:17
KM0201you can try installing hte ATI driver.... i don't have a lot of experience with it though07:17
KM0201!ati07:17
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto07:17
KM0201it may not even support one of hte 4x cards by now07:17
denisympawhy modify deplacer vers07:18
denisympahelp for modify menu "move to"07:20
jmfurlottKM0201, what kernel is 12.10? 3.4?07:20
bazhang!info linux | jmfurlott07:20
KM0201jmfurlott: dunno, i had probs w/ 12.10, didn't feel like messing with it.. so i just went back to 12.0407:20
ubottujmfurlott: linux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component main, is optional. Version 3.5.0.14.14 (quantal), package size 1 kB, installed size 31 kB07:20
KM0201in 12.10, i didn't like how everytime i tried to search for an app in the dashboard, it was showing me crap for sale07:21
jmfurlottKM0201 it says up to 3.4 so I can't use their drivers07:21
KuramaArchitecture 32 and 64 is basically 32 and 64 bit right?07:22
KM0201oh ok.07:22
jmfurlottKM0201 I agree but 12.04 wouldn't even boot for me07:22
KM0201wouldn't even boot?07:22
jmfurlottKM0201, the screen would just go black I hit start ubuntu from the disc07:23
KM0201hmm07:23
Sazpaimonis there a wubi-like installer that will actually allow me to set up ubuntu on unpartitioned space on my machine?07:23
KM0201Sazpaimon: not to my knowledge, thats not what wubi does.. why not just use a cd or usb?07:24
jmfurlottKM0201, oh wait I may have found a fix…to use legacy_fglrx07:24
Sazpaimondon't feel like digging out my blank cds or usb sticks07:24
KM0201ah ok.07:24
KM0201Sazpaimon: ?... that's a terrible answer.07:24
KM0201i suspect there's another reason07:24
aum__hello everyone, i have a command line system ubuntu based. Now i install it over other hardware through dd command. but i need a installer something like remastersys, i can not use remastersys because it required gnome/ graphical environment, and i have a memory limitation.07:25
SazpaimonKM0201, nope, pure laziness07:25
KM0201then nothing we say can help you overcome that07:25
melvincvI just installed Quantal. Just curious, Why is amazon on the dash?07:25
aum__is there any command line tool like remastersys ?07:25
Sazpaimonits unfortunate, because debian has a windows installer that will allow installation to a partition07:26
Sazpaimoni was hoping ubuntu had the same thing07:26
bazhang!adlens | melvincv07:26
ubottumelvincv: If you wish not to see "More Suggestions" from places like Amazon in your Ubuntu 12.10, simply remove the package unity-lens-shopping, or adjust your Privacy settings as shown here: http://goo.gl/kFO4u . Mark Shuttleworth's blog entry on this is at http://goo.gl/uF7zZ07:26
bazhangaum__, dd?07:26
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aum__bazhang, http://linux.die.net/man/1/dd07:28
bazhangaum__, yes. why not just use that07:28
mhrHi all, can I read a pdf file having graphics using command line console in ubuntu server? If not can it be converted in other format to read it?07:28
bazhangmhr, convert pdf to text that can be read in a tty?07:29
topper4125or html if it will extract the images as well07:30
mhrbazhang, but it has graphics too,07:30
aum__bazhang, our client needs a installer, to manage his partition.07:30
Sazpaimonalright, alright, I have a usb stick sitting here. I was using it as my portage tree for another machine, but I guess I can sacrifice it07:31
mhrtopper4125, i meant to view in ubuntu server having no GUI07:31
bazhangmhr, you wish to view images (jpg/png/etc) without xserver?07:32
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bazhang!info genisoimage | aum__07:34
ubottuaum__: genisoimage (source: cdrkit): Creates ISO-9660 CD-ROM filesystem images. In component main, is optional. Version 9:1.1.11-2ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 562 kB, installed size 1421 kB07:34
mhrbazhang, yes if they can also be converted to some other compatible format to be viewed in command line console.07:34
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OerHeksmhr, there is jp2a jpg to ascii, result can vary > http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/jp2a.1.html07:39
OerHeksmhr, here are more answers >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/97542/how-do-i-make-my-terminal-display-graphical-pictures07:41
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cihhanI am seeing some interesting behavior: Im running some benchmarks (RUBiS) and even though the benchmark is over, the memory usage is still high based on top output (not the processes part, the system resource usage part of top). It's not decreasing. What can be the reason for that?07:42
Jordan_U!ram | cihhan07:44
ubottucihhan: If you are wondering why some tools report your system has very little free memory, have a look at http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ | A short primer on Linux memory management can be found here: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html07:44
NoOovawhat happens with http://gnome-look.org ?07:45
cihhanubottu: Thanks a lot :)07:45
ubottucihhan: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:45
cihhanJordan_U: thanks a lot, let me read :)07:45
Jordan_Ucihhan: You're welcome :)07:45
DaemonicApathyAny way for me to defrag my SSD?07:46
cihhanJordan_U: But I have a question. In this case, how can I really monitor the system memory usage when I run a benchmark?07:46
Jordan_UDaemonicApathy: What filesystem does it use?07:46
OerHeksNoOova, looks like a server issue there07:46
mhrOerHeks, I need to view the pdf file in ubuntu server, not the terminal of ubuntu desktop. Is that possible as it has graphics too. Or a way to convert the pdf with graphics to some compatible format to be viewed in ubuntu server command line.07:47
DaemonicApathyext407:47
OerHeksmhr, if you cannot extract the text and pictures, the answer is no07:47
Evil_Ericpdf2txt07:47
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OerHeksmhr, print the pdf07:48
zphey can anyone help me? just got a 4 channel usb relay from ebay  and i can connect to it with gtkterm, but thats gui, i want to be  able to control it from command line, sudo -l /dev/ttyUSB0 -s 9600  returns that the line is in use, however gtkterm works  perfectly....any help?07:48
Jordan_Ucihhan: See the second to last question / answer @ http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ .07:48
cihhanI saw it, thanks a lot :)07:49
DaemonicApathyPDF in terminals: use the pdftohtml command, open the resulting file in the terminal.07:49
zpcorrection the command was "sudo cu -l..."07:49
Jordan_UDaemonicApathy: Then you can use "e4defrag", but note that 1: ext4 filesystems rarely fragment enough for defrag to be worth the time 2: Fragmentation matters much less on SSDs than on spinning disks (though it does still matter some, for different reasons)07:50
zpor can anyone point me into another direction for help?07:50
DaemonicApathyI'm aware, Jordan_U. I was just curious about there actually being a way to defrag ext4. Thanks.07:50
Jordan_UDaemonicApathy: You're welcome.07:51
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Balluhello07:54
mhrDaemonicApathy, i used pdftohtml, how do i read it now07:56
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BalluI want to know how to save the new updates or download when i am using Live ubuntu thru Pen drive. The pen drive has the persistent created but does not save anything on exit. I wish i could download using the transmission on the hard disk instead.07:57
DaemonicApathymhr: with a text editor. I believe nano can handle html fine.07:57
SpecialEdHey guys, I have a Drupal LAMP stack on a Ubuntu 12.04LTS VPS.  My hosting provider is going out of business and I need to migrate this system to a new hosting provider I recently purchased space from.   What would be the best way for me to backup & migrate this Ubuntu 12.04LTS system?07:57
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Guest75047hey07:59
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DaemonicApathySpecialEd: This may help: http://drupal.org/node/181970407:59
Guest75047hello DaemonicApathy08:00
DaemonicApathyHello, Guest75047.08:00
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mhrDaemonicApathy, nano or vi is displaying the html code not the actual file08:03
SpecialEdDaemonicApathy: thanks but I was hoping for more of an OS layer to handle this as I have more than just the /var/www/ path to move.  Is there like a block level backup and restore tool for Ubuntu 12.04LTS?  Something similar in Windoze to what I hope to achieve would be using VSS.08:03
DaemonicApathymhr: Sorry about that, I completely forgot about lynx - the web browser for CLI. I don't usually use terminals for PDFs/HTML.08:04
DaemonicApathySpecialEd: No idea, I would probably use ssh. I doubt that's the best choice, though.08:05
SpecialEdSSH?08:06
SpecialEdwell of course I'm connecting via SSH, lol.  I'm talking about backing up and migrating a Ubuntu 12.04LTS x64 OS - not how to access it :)08:06
DaemonicApathySpecialEd: Probably my own tired brain working against me, but I meant using scp to copy everything over the ssh connection. That's typically how I manage my (tiny) server machine.08:09
SpecialEdahhh! OK08:09
KsMrsync maybe, too08:09
SpecialEdDaemonicApathy: Thank you so much! You lit a spark in my brain with using FXP transfer mode :)08:09
DaemonicApathy*tips hat*08:09
SpecialEdrsync would work but having a GUI to compare file/folder structure would be nice:)08:10
SpecialEdnot sure if rsync would capture a live database too well, i'll probably do Rsync to start, then manual verify with FXP Transfer, then export/import the MySQL database :)08:10
topper4125isn't that kind of what filezilla does (not a server expert, don't bite me :o )08:10
Ihsan_Hello, I recently installed the Moonlight plugin for Mozilla Firefox (Ubuntu 12.10 64bit). I need the plugin for my school site. I installed Moonlight, but everytime I open the site I get this error: Could not call webservice. expected ';' (3B) but found '=' (3D) Line 34, position 115. Thanks08:10
alusionI want to stream video from ubuntu on my android device.. I installed SAMBA08:11
alusionis there an easy way to share?08:11
KM0201stream video from your ubuntu machine to your android.08:12
alusionyeah dude08:12
alusionI wanna stream in my LAN08:12
KM0201samba isn't for streaming, it's a filesharing utility.08:12
alusionAite what about VLC?08:13
KM0201can android access upnp shares?.. you could use dlna08:13
KM0201vlc doesn't stream, it plays08:13
DaemonicApathyalusion: follow the parsnip: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+question/19758608:13
KM0201if you have vlc on your android.. it can play upnp08:13
alusionI'm reading the wise Parsnip08:13
alusionhowever what is upnp08:13
lechevalierhelp for menu copy to08:13
KM0201hmm, what parsnip did isn't really streaming (or at least how i think of streaming)08:14
KM0201!upnp08:14
ubottuTo stream media to other UPNP aware devices (such as the Xbox, PS3, or iRadio) you need a UPNP server. See !info mediatomb for information regarding the MediaTomb package08:14
KM0201although i wouldn't use mediatomb (unless you're just deadset on configuring it with a gui... )08:15
KM0201i've had better luck w/ dlna08:15
dathuiHi, I get disk usage warnings, but I'm not sure what folders are taking up all the space since it's a different partition than my home folder. it's the sysroot one. http://pastebin.ca/225202308:17
ikoniadathui: that is /08:18
ikoniadathui: so anything thats in / that's not /var, /usr/local (why do you have /usr/local/??) or /boot08:19
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KM0201someone who separated / and /home and didn't put enough space on /  ?08:20
ikoniaKM0201: i seems a fine space, just getting full now08:20
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KM0201hen i'd argue that means it's NOT fine08:20
dathuiwhich I'm trying to fix...but I'm not sure what to remove. is there a way to list installed applications by size?08:21
ikoniadon't know how you can do it by size, but surly their size is listed in software center08:21
xukunI installed a fresh 12.10 on my desktop, everything seems except at the right corner near the clock I see a battery simple, it's like I'm using a laptop. Any Idea why that is?08:21
ikoniaxukun: it's picked up your machines power managment08:22
topper4125!baobab08:22
dathuiikonia: it's just the name and description under installed applications, if i don't go into the details for each application08:22
topper4125'erm okay... take a look at baobab, graphical disk use analyzer08:22
ikoniadathui: then go into the detail of each one08:23
xukunikonia, are you saying that is a good thing?08:23
dathuitopper4125: ah, thanks for the tip08:23
ikoniaxukun: I'm saying it's "nothing"08:23
KM0201!info baobag08:23
ubottuPackage baobag does not exist in quantal08:23
KM0201!info baobab08:23
ubottubaobab (source: baobab): GNOME disk usage analyzer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.5.91-0ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 146 kB, installed size 752 kB08:23
topper4125ah.. forgot the 'info' part...08:24
topper4125lol08:24
BalluAm I lost!08:24
Balluhelp08:24
DaemonicApathy!ask | Ballu08:24
ubottuBallu: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience08:24
topper4125!info gps08:24
ubottuPackage gps does not exist in quantal08:24
topper4125lol08:24
Balluubottu: Thank you, ubottu.08:26
ubottuBallu: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:26
xukunikonia, ok then. something else: after I install nvidia-current xorg fails to start. I see no errors but I see the desktop with low resolution and no icons. during the nvidia install I see this message though: Module build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the kernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed. Any thoughts?08:27
xukunikonia, it seems that he NVidia Proprietary drivers need to build a kernel module at install time but fails. Very strange08:30
dathuican i extend a partition?08:30
topper4125Use gparted...08:31
dathuiok, thanks08:32
topper4125!info gparted08:32
ubottugparted (source: gparted): GNOME partition editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.12.1-1 (quantal), package size 522 kB, installed size 1832 kB08:32
icefightgparted ?08:32
icefightnot parted?08:32
trentganybody know if I got another ati card if dual monitor would work (two separate cards)?08:33
dathuitopper4125: gparted is saying it's all one big partition.08:34
dathuiis there another way to split disk space? gparted has two partitions, one big and one "lvm"08:34
dathuiother way around, a small "boot" and one big "lvm"08:35
topper4125dathui, not sure if this will help or not but: howtoforge.com/linux_lvm08:38
topper4125!lvm08:39
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto08:39
dathuitopper4125: gotcha, thanks for the help08:42
topper4125dathui, np :)08:42
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blackshirt!tmux08:47
blackshirt!info tmux08:47
ubottutmux (source: tmux): terminal multiplexer. In component main, is optional. Version 1.6-2 (quantal), package size 216 kB, installed size 485 kB08:47
Evil_Eric!info DeVeDe08:48
ubottuPackage DeVeDe does not exist in quantal08:48
Evil_Ericcool08:48
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SazpaimonI cannot get circular scrolling to work in my freshly installed ubuntu machine08:49
Sazpaimonthe option does not appear to be available, yet I can see it in windows08:49
silv3r_m00nI wish to run kde plasmoids on gnome, how ?08:49
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topper4125http://askubuntu.com/questions/26033/can-i-use-kde-plasma-widgets-in-gnome08:56
drekoHi everyone..08:58
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Fuzzlescan someone help me ive installed my wireless driver as ubuntu picked it up but after a reatart it still doesnt pick up any routers?09:15
dathuiwhich card?09:16
Fuzzlesim not sure it worked before i did some updates09:17
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FloodBot1!netsplit09:29
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ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit09:29
psydrivehello09:31
sjd_zeus09:31
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adoniscikhow should one resolve the python/scipy error "clapack.so: undefined symbol: clapack_sgesv"? clapack is located in several directories and I installed the Ubuntu repository's version of scipy. I'm on 12.1009:45
anjrewchenHi, I was wondering if it is at all possible to have a private /usr directory?09:45
anjrewchenFor example I have a /home/ajc/bin09:46
almoxarifeanjrewchen: private from whom? your home dir is private09:47
anjrewchenRight, but in the sense that packages are normally installed to /usr09:47
anjrewchenCan packages be installed to /home/$USER/usr?09:48
almoxarifeanjrewchen: no, but apps can belong to a specific user09:48
anjrewchenhow does that work?09:49
almoxarifeanjrewchen: you could have an app running out of your home dir, i think it would need to be compiled there, not sure though, root would need to be involved09:51
andrea_what is the best dual port gigabit NIC by Intel i can use with ubuntu?09:51
anjrewchenThanks almoxarife09:52
anjrewchenandrea_ I think most nics have pretty good support, have you ever had issues?09:55
andrea_anjrewchen: i had issues with crappy NICs with realtek chipset09:55
gordonjcpin the file browser, if I plug my phone in I get two massive bars saying "Open Shotwell Photo Manager" and "Open Rhythmbox Music Player"09:59
gordonjcpthis takes up a huge chunk of screen and gets in the way09:59
gordonjcpis it possible to get rid of them?09:59
FloodBot1!netsplit09:59
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit09:59
eraggowhy splice (game from humble bundle) splits between 2 monitors? anyone have idea?10:00
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anjrewchenquit10:03
user4567123hi everyone, could someone give me a hand reading some logwatch reports from my ubuntu server?10:05
muelli!accessibility | user4567123, try this if you have trouble with reading. There is a good a11y stack that should help you :-)10:06
ubottuuser4567123, try this if you have trouble with reading. There is a good a11y stack that should help you :-): Information about the Ubuntu Accessibility Team can be found on the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility or by joining #ubuntu-accessibility10:06
user4567123i've googled to no avail, im trying to understand what this line of the report means "A total of 2 sites probed the server"10:07
user4567123what does "probed the server" actually entail?10:07
muelliuser4567123: webserver. They probably spidered for specific applications installed. You can read the logwatch source, it's not too complicated.10:08
user4567123meulli: thanks, so like a burpsuite or webscarab spidering attempt? anything to be concerned about?10:09
muelliuser4567123: no. I wouldn't be. But make sure you have your webapps up to date.10:10
user4567123meulli: ok great, thanks for your help on this :)10:10
muelliuser4567123: you're most welcome :-) Cool that you run Free Software!10:11
user4567123muelli: it's cool that you help people who run free software ;) bye10:12
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dr_willis!english10:20
ubottuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList10:20
mnnwould you help me how can i install drivers to detect  usb flash in thinclients using ubuntu 10.04.310:22
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dathuican i have the compiz switcher but without the window grouping?10:24
dr_willisthe ccsm tool lets you tweak all sorts of things. so its possible.10:25
dathuiok, thanks10:25
dathuii turned the compiz switcher off completely but the static switcher has so small thumbnails10:25
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mynameisthomhello. Right now I'm using live-USB with Ubuntu 12.04. The prob is my laptop could connect to wifi before. But after update, my laptop can't connect to the wifi anymore. It detects the networks, but when tried to connect, the indicator just spining and after a while, the connection drop and asking for password. It just continuously happen like that. Can anybody gimme solution or some clue to fix this?10:33
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FloodBot1!netsplit10:35
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit10:35
Night-hacks"sudo ifconfig usb0 plumb" says unknown host10:41
Night-hacksi want to run android reverse tethering10:42
cantomahey guys, I am currently using wmaker and I have a 22'' widescreen with 1920 x 1080. Currently I cannot see all my screen area and when move my mouse close to the borders of the screen, the screen moves up or down. I think there must be some problem with the screen setup. I have tried to change the resolution of the screen like this http://pastebin.com/6VzXEE98 but I end up with a cropped screen. Any ideas??10:42
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dr_willisthe screen pans around? thats an old 'feature' of X that would kick in if you had a desktop size defined bigger then the monitor res.10:45
dr_willisive not seen that happen in years. :) i couldent even figure out how to force it on with my netbook.10:45
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cantomadr_willis, yes the screen pans around. If I setup a lower resolution the screen gets cropped. It is annoying.10:47
dr_willisdosent happen with other window managers?10:48
cantomadr_willis, i have just this one10:48
dr_willistest with others?10:48
dr_williswmaker is the old WindowMaker right? Its quite.. well.. old skool.10:49
cantomadr_willis, i wanted to keep this system very minimal its a debian netinstal10:49
cantomadr_willis, maybe there is some application that is able to configure the screen10:50
dr_willisid say test with Fluxbox or Openbox or even JWM. it may be a Window Manager issue. and not an X config issue.10:50
cantomaok10:50
dr_willisThat Panning feature is somthing common years ago. I rarely seen it mentioned these days10:50
cantomaok10:51
dr_willisif you are on Debian, you really should be asking in #debian also10:51
cantomadr_willis, i asked there as well10:51
cantomadr_willis, 20 min before coming here10:52
cantomadr_willis, so thanks for your help10:52
cantomai am gonna switch to fluxbox now and see what happen10:52
cantomaoff10:52
mneisenHI all - I run a server on Oneiric; I need to upgrade to OpenJDK 7. I have installed openjdk-7-jdk, openjdk-7-jre-headless and some more openjdk-7* packages without problems. BUT: The alternatives system does not seem to pick up the new java version correctly. When I do "update-alternatives -s java-1.7.0-openjdk", I get this output: http://pastie.org/5386823 . Does anyone has any idea how to do this correctly (nd yes, I know about upda10:52
dr_willisim on a dual moniotor setup. so i cant even really test/verify the same problem here10:53
cantomadr_willis, if you switch to wmaker does it support the dual monitor?10:53
dr_williscantoma:  no idea. Been so long since ive last used wmaker. i would actually be suprised if it did.10:53
cantomaok10:54
cantomai am rebooting X now10:54
dr_willismneisen:  im not sure thats the right update-alternatives command. the ubuntu  java wiki page i think gave the commands10:54
dr_willishttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java10:55
dr_willisIMPORTANT choose the java you installed as default10:55
dr_willis $ sudo update-alternatives --config java10:55
dr_willisi tend to cheat and use the webupd8 scripts/ppa to install java. ;)10:56
mneisendr_willies: Thanks - I will try that! Not sure though about the webupd8 scripts ... :)10:58
dr_willisthey got a ppa/script thing set up to make it easier. Been a while since i last used them10:58
dr_willisbrb10:58
mneisendr_willis: update-alternatives --config java gives me "There is only one alternative in link group java: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java Nothing to configure." although the openjdk-7 jvm is in /usr/lib/jvm .11:00
dr_willissounds liek it may have not gotten installed correctly11:00
dr_willisI was just looking at the !java wiki page..  could be somthing got overlooked11:01
dr_willis!java11:01
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.11:01
dr_willisheh - even the wiki page mentions the webupd8 ppa.11:02
mneisendr_willis: This is my impression as well. I think the path in /usr/lib/jvm is not correct.11:02
mneisendr_willis: Yes, the wiki mentions webupd8. But I have read nothing about openjdk-7 on their website.11:03
mneisendr_willis: I do not want to run Oracle Java but openjdk.11:03
dr_willisHmm..  then you just install the openjdk* packages from the package manager i thought11:04
dr_willishttp://apt.ubuntu.com/p/openjdk-7-jre11:05
dr_willishttp://apt.ubuntu.com/p/icedtea-7-plugin11:05
dr_willisI dont java much. But  i tend to just use the opdnjdk ones on my machines11:05
Evil_Ericsounds like bukkit minecraft server building time11:05
dr_willisI definatly dont Minecraft. ;) but I do seem to recall Minecraft not likeing the openjdk11:06
Evil_Ericit dosent like openjdk 711:06
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dr_willisthat wmaker guy never came back? I was going to tell him wmaker in 12.10 does support multi monitors nicely11:06
dr_willis;P11:07
Evil_Eric6 its ok with sorta11:07
Evil_Erichahaha11:07
dr_willishttps://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java    Oracle Java (JDK) 6 / 7 / 8 Installer PPA11:07
dr_willishttp://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html11:07
dr_williscan install 6, 7, or 8.. I dident even know there was a 8 ;P11:08
Evil_Ericim waiting on the transcoding seasion to foul up and then im going to asking anyone with encoding exp to help me11:08
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Evil_Erichiya obiwan11:08
dr_willisi just use winff, avidemux, or arista for my meger transcodeing needs11:08
Evil_Ericim  using DeVeDe , dvdstyler and bombono dvd11:09
dr_willisDeveDe works well for my needs also.11:10
dr_willisI just tend to make Cartoon DVDs for the grandkids11:10
Evil_Ericyeah its great only reason i even have the others was hopping it would fix the issue but nope11:10
mneisendr_willis: Thanks for link about installing openjdk via the ppa.11:12
mneisendr_willis: I will try that. Thanks!11:12
dr_willisoprnjdk is in the repos. :) no ppa needed11:13
mneisendr_willis: I got openjdk from the repos ... and it does not work  for me. It does install alright, I can invoke the jvm by calling /usr/lib/jvm/openjdk-7..../java directly, but I cannot set it as my default vm.11:14
mneisendr_willis: This is because openjdk-7 does not corretcly register itself with the alternatives system during installation.11:14
cantomadr_willis, it seems like it is also a problem of fluxbox11:15
dr_willisweird. Perhaps its time to remove/purge them all and reinstall it. - ive not heard of that issue befor.  this is on 12.10? or 12.04 ?11:15
dr_williscantoma:  wmaker in ubuntu works fine with my 2 monitors :)11:15
mneisendr_willis: At least not on my machine. I just checked in /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/java; the openjdk 7 JVM is not in the alternatives DB.11:15
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mneisendr_willis: so naturally update-alternatives --config java will tell me that there is only the Oracle JDK 6 on my machine although OpenJDK 7 is in fact also available.11:16
mneisendr_willis: This is on Oneiric (11.10?).11:16
cantomadr_willis, maybe if I install gnome or kde it solves the problem .. but i was trying to avoid it11:16
dr_willismneisen:  11.10? Hmm.. all bets are off then. :) i only use the latest releases - so my info may be incorrect11:17
dr_willis!oneiric11:18
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) was the fifteenth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/111011:18
FuraiHello.11:18
dr_willis!11.1011:18
dr_willisHowdy Furai11:18
FuraiI'm proud user of useful dualboot (Windows 7 + Ubuntu) with synced accounts for Firefox, Thunderbird and Pidgin across OSes.11:21
ScallHello, in the Xbox360 controller page of the Ubuntu wiki (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xbox360Controller#Known_issues_with_Wireless_controllers), I read that: «There is no way to turn the controller off, save removing the batteries» for the wireless version of the Xbox 360 gamepad. Has this issue been solved?11:24
coder2i  have ubuntu 11.10 installed in my laptop , suddenly function of right click through touchpad and external mouse has stopped working, how to resolve it?11:24
dr_williscoder2:  even in the guest and other user accounts? it affects them all>11:25
dr_willisThat would be unusual.11:25
coder2dr_willis, i have not tried using guest11:25
dr_willisthe 'xev' tool may show if  the system is getting mouse inputs also11:26
Evil_Ericlooks like ill be loading widowns soon :(11:26
cantomadr_jesus_, do you know where I could find the xorg.conf file. My locate is not able to find it. Or is it a deprecated file? I just want to have a look to see what is the current setup. By the way gdm also suffers from the same problem regarding screen resolution.11:27
coder2dr_willis, 'xev', is there any command ?11:27
cantomadr_willis,11:27
dr_willisxev is the command....11:27
coder2ok11:27
dr_willisxev | grep button11:27
dr_willisthen put the pointer in the window and click the buttons11:27
dr_willisstate 0x0, button 3, same_screen YES11:27
dr_willisis my right mouse button11:27
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dr_williswithout the grep - xev can spit out more info then we need. :) to test this11:28
pichugeddonhi! i'm using irssi right now. somebody knows if the screen can be splited? I wanna see the people in one of the sides :)11:29
coder2dr_willis, not working11:30
dr_willispichugeddon:  irssi has a split window mode.. but it seems its not real popular/well documeted feature. I seem to recall all the irssi tutorials sort of saying 'this part is complex so we dont cover it here'11:30
dr_williscoder2:  interesting. you get output for the other buttons but not  the right click button?11:30
jribpichugeddon: http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssisplit/ though checkout weechat if you want more powerful splitting (vertical splits)11:31
pichugeddonok, many tks dr_willis. Could you be so nice to tell me another irc client to use under console?11:31
dr_willishttp://quadpoint.org/articles/irssisplit/   written in 200511:31
pichugeddonjrib, tks11:31
dr_willispichugeddon:  i use weechat - it has many nicer features then irssi these days11:31
FuraiWhy on Earth gnome terminal doesn't support audible bell?11:39
dr_willisactually I think its xorg settings that disble the ctrl-g bell.11:40
Furaixorg?11:40
dr_willisi see this asked every so often11:40
FuraiI need audible bells for my weechat.11:40
Touhou11Furai: Please watch your language11:41
FuraiWithout it my highlight pass unnoticed.11:41
FuraiWhat is wrong with my language?11:41
Touhou11Weechat... we don't want to know about your scatalogical cybersex11:41
Furai/care11:42
FuraiAnd left.11:42
dr_willisI get OSD notifications in weechat when someone says my name. ;) a noise would be a bit overkill. but i imagine you could set weechat to play a sound via a command, that would work. vs just a pc spkr beep11:42
FuraiUnsuccesful troll is unsuccesful.11:42
dr_willishttp://superuser.com/questions/22767/enable-system-beep-in-ubuntu11:43
FuraiI don't like any kinds of OSD...11:43
lantiziaLo, is there anyway to automate importing VPN configurations in to the Network Manager gui?  like a way to script it?11:43
dr_willishalf the time people want to kill the beepig dead.. then other half want it back. ;)11:43
dr_willisI think  the pcspkr module is blacklisted by default that prevents most of the  speaker sounds/beeps that were common a few years back11:44
coder2dr_willis, hey my problem just got solved by logging into test account, i dont know how.11:46
dr_williscoder2:  the mouse suddendly started working in all accounts now?11:46
coder2yes, i just once switched to guest account then logged back into admin  and problem solved11:47
Martin_vWI just installed Ubuntu 12.10 with gnome-shell and now I'm missing the encryption applet that I used back with gnome2. Is there an applet for gnome3 that does the same?11:48
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Furaidr_willis, I'll give a look to OSD notifications.11:50
FuraiThis script?11:54
Furaihttp://www.weechat.org/scripts/source/stable/xosdnotify.tcl.html/11:54
dr_willisim just using one called notify.py11:55
dr_willisgot it via that weeget feature of weechat11:55
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cantomaguys, how can i check which linux-image (kernel) version is available in the backports. I am currently trying to locate linux-image-2.6.38 since I am following this forum => http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6563812:04
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dr_williswhat release are you using?12:06
shomonhi, I think I have a problem with my firewall: it's not telling servers when connections drop12:11
shomonso the server stays open and waiting... getting bored12:12
shomonand going on strike finally12:12
shomonhow can I diagnose this and find out if it's my machine or something else?12:12
shomonubuntu 11.0412:13
bond__can anybody tell me about where can i get help regarding tcpdump?12:16
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blackshirt!info byoubu12:23
ubottuPackage byoubu does not exist in quantal12:23
blackshirt!info byobu12:23
ubottubyobu (source: byobu): powerful, text based window manager and shell multiplexer. In component main, is optional. Version 5.21-0ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 84 kB, installed size 421 kB12:23
pittohi all!12:25
pittois this the support channell?12:25
Evil_Erichello  potofcoffee12:25
MonLizardoI'm using a Macbook 5,1 and I cannot boot 12.10 64bit version after installing from the DVD. I am not dual booting. The first time I installed it, everything working except wifi. After a few reboots I only got a black screen with a blinking cursor in the top left.12:26
blackshirthi pitto12:26
Evil_Erichi pitto12:26
BluesKajHiyas all12:26
OerHeksMonLizardo, maybe mactel pages have a solution, i think nomodeset > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages12:26
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Guest3683hii alll12:27
knoppixhow remove new folder exe virus from windows using linux live cd12:27
chuxxsssHi all.12:27
pittoI've just installed fresh 12.10 and updated it to the last bit... My pc can't shutdown (it stays with ubuntu splashscreen). How can I solve this?12:27
pitto(I am on a normal pc)12:27
Guest3683i want to save data before submitting12:27
MonLizardoTried re-installing from the dvd a few times and I cannot get it to book. I just tried a fresh install and when the system was about to boot for the first time, I got this message and the screen is now hanging on this. "Broadcast message from root@ubuntu" space "(unknown) at 8:17 ..." space "The system is going down for reboot NOW" space "modem-manager [1440]: <info> Caught signal 15, shutting down...12:27
Guest3683help me with django12:27
pythonirc101Anyone knows what's causing this: http://pbin.be/show/931/12:28
chuxxsssI cannot install file anymore but updates work?12:28
pythonirc101never had apt-get fail on me12:28
Guest3683how to set flags in django12:28
MonLizardoI get that message after every install. I will likely get the blank screen again after reboot.12:28
pythonirc101Guest3683: you probably want to ask #python?12:29
OerHeksMonLizardo, i can't help you further, i have no MAC :(12:29
Guest3683yes12:29
shomonhi, how do I diagnose a misbehaving firewall on ubuntu 11.04?12:29
Guest3683help asap12:29
MonkeyDustis 11.04 still supported?12:29
OerHeks!natty12:30
ubottuUbuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) was the fourteenth release of Ubuntu. !End-Of-Life on 2012-10-28, see http://ubottu.com/y/natty for details.12:30
chuxxsssI have tried everything so far. when I  sudo apt-get update it just hangs on 0% waiting.  HELP plese.12:30
Evil_Eric2 days befor my b-day and if i had my way bout it we would still be using 10.0412:31
pythonirc101my machine is running 11.10 -- should I upgrade?12:31
OerHeksGuest3683 try #django ?12:32
blnopythonirc101: 11.10 is still supported until 13.04 I think, so you can keep it if you like it. If you want more recent features, 12.04 is good and stable (but uses quite a different interface).12:32
pythonirc101blno: http://pbin.be/show/931/ -- any ideas why this would happen?12:33
Evil_Eric<3 12.04 LTS its what im running12:33
pythonirc101What happens when one does do-release-upgrade on a 11.10 box?12:33
OerHeks!upgrade | pythonirc10112:34
ubottupythonirc101: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade12:34
pythonirc101OerHeks: Any ideas why this is happening to 11.10 - http://pbin.be/show/931/12:35
blnopythonirc101: sorry, no idea. What does the log says?12:35
subdesignhi, what is ?1 in my filenames? so image.jpg?112:36
subdesignor its not ubuntu related12:36
OerHekspythonirc101, as blno says, what is in the  /var/lib/dkms/blcr/0.8.2/build/make.log ?12:38
OerHeksdid you update before this action?12:38
chuxxsssI have tried everything so far. when I  sudo apt-get update it just hangs on 0% waiting.  HELP please.12:39
OerHekschuxxsss, 11.04 is EOL, see the message from ubottu12:39
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OerHeks!rootirc | SouravAJ12:39
ubottuSouravAJ: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.12:39
pythonirc101OerHeks: no such directory as /var/log/dkms12:39
OerHekspythonirc101, read carefull /var/lib/ ....12:40
OerHekssee your own paste,last line12:40
SouravAJhello i just install ubuntu today i hate the launchbar in left side i want to remove it plz tell me how?12:40
blnoSouravAJ: what would you prefer instead?12:41
pythonirc101http://pbin.be/show/933/12:41
SouravAJactually i want ubuntu 9.10 desktop look in 12.10 is it possible?12:41
OerHeks!nounity > SouravAJ12:41
ubottuSouravAJ, please see my private message12:41
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blnoSouravAJ: I think the best then is to install Xubuntu (the last one) and configure it to look like what you're used to (Gnome 2)12:42
SouravAJubottu: i will make user shortly12:42
ubottuSouravAJ: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)12:42
SouravAJok12:43
SouravAJthanks12:43
blnoSouravAJ: that new interface in Ubuntu is called Unity, and you can't make it look like Gnome 2. XFCE (in Xubuntu) is configurable enough for that, and many people who complained about Unity like XFCE now.12:43
dr_willisor thers Lubuntu/Lxde for an old skool look12:44
dr_willistheres also the gnome classic thing.12:44
dr_willis!classic12:44
ubottuThe default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. To switch back to regular !GNOME: log out, click your username, click the Session box at the bottom of the screen, and select "Ubuntu Classic". For 11.10, see !notunity12:44
dr_willis!notunity12:44
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic12:44
Evil_Erici love unity on 12.04 but i realy dont like unity on 12.1012:45
blnodr_willis: I thought the Gnome classic thing was/will be discontinued?12:45
blnodr_willis: or maybe I'm just mistaking with something else12:45
dr_willisit will be eventually12:45
OerHeksEvil_Eric, how it is different?12:45
blnodr_willis: so maybe it's a better idea to make people switch to something which will be maintained in the future12:46
dr_willisunity works fine for me in 12.1012:46
DigitalYetiAnyone having problems with their wired network connection after a recent update?12:47
MonkeyDustDigitalYeti  define "problems"12:47
DigitalYetiwell12:47
DigitalYetiI did an update on the 9th12:47
DigitalYetithe only networking related update I could find was libqt4-network12:47
DigitalYetiand now my wired network connection says there's no internet12:48
Evil_Ericwell they added stuff to it and made it all just shiny and pretty its just a personal preferance that i realy dont like it in 12.10 but in 12.04 its all that and bag of cheetoes and i also like win 8 metro also so im a pretty fickle person12:48
DigitalYetibut I do have internet with other computers in the house and noone has touched taht machine since the update12:48
shomonok supposing I had a supported ubuntu release, how do I diagnose firewall problems?12:48
blnoshomon: what firewall do you use? Can you paste its config? What problem do you have?12:49
Evil_Erichiya digiyeti12:54
DigitalYetihey Eric12:55
Evil_Ericsounds like you got a bad issue there12:56
DigitalYetiEvil_Eric: yeah it sucks... my work machine now has no internet post-update12:56
DigitalYetinot sure why12:56
DigitalYetiThe only network related update was the libqt4-network one12:57
Evil_Ericwish i knew how to help you but im still a newbie to all the inner workings of ubuntu12:57
DigitalYetibut I can't find anything online regarding that12:57
DigitalYetino worries man12:57
craigbass1976I'm printing from Firefox.  Anyone know why I've got to go through all these gyrations http://www.doopensource.com/applications/getting-from-web-page-to-print-in-firefox/  when someone using the same FF version (16.0.2) on XP gets a nice easy gui to change header and footer content?12:57
Evil_Erici can make it look awesome and stuff though12:57
gordonjcpheh, printers12:59
gordonjcpdo people still use those?12:59
DigitalYetidoes anyone know if it's possible to roll back a specific update in ubuntu?13:00
craigbass1976gordonjcp, haha.  No, we're doing inventory and while I TRIED  VERY HARD to use a scanning gun (for the actual counting) and a smartphone (to look at the list) I've been outvoted and must print count sheets.13:00
jribDigitalYeti: not supported, but if it's just a couple of packages, you can try... What package?13:00
DigitalYetijrib: libqt4-network... I updated monday and haven't used that machine since, booted today and network manager says no network connection13:01
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DigitalYetithat was the only network related package updated13:02
DigitalYetibtw- it's a dual boot machine, windows gets network just fine, so I know it's not the cable/card13:02
jribDigitalYeti: on precise?  Anyway, I have to go, but you can do "apt-cache policy PACKAGE", see what versions are available, then install version VERSION with "apt-get install PACKAGE=VERSION".  I would advise you to read the changelog and see what exactly was updated though.  It could be a security fix.  Also, make sure you read what apt wants to do.  If other packages, depend on a specific version, it might13:03
jribwant to remove lots of things13:03
sevenforallGreetings13:03
DigitalYetijrib: I believe it WAS a security fix from what I see. The problem is that it's SO secure, now I have no internet ;)13:03
DigitalYetihaha13:04
DigitalYetianyway thanks for trying!13:04
sevenforallWhat is the easiest way to install Windows on another disk and fix GRUB afterwards?13:04
dr_willisa seperate hard drive? or a seperate partion on the same hd?13:05
BluesKajsevenforall:  if you install windows on a nother disk then sudo update-grub should pick up the windows mbr13:06
dr_willisYou can have windows totally on HD #1 and linux and grub on hd #2 and windows shouldent touch grub at all. You can then select what HD to boot.13:06
sevenforalldr_willis: I assumed that last time and that didn't work out too well13:06
dr_willisthe linux hd would have grub that would also let you get to windows. Or  You boot hd #1 and boot to windows directly13:06
dr_willisI swet up most of my pcs that way. If i remove the linux HD.  dont have to fix the windows mbr.13:07
sevenforallBluesKaj: How does one run sudo update-grub if Windows won't allow me to get into Ubuntu in the first place?13:07
rzzgreetings, I've a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.10 x64, I'm trying to install git. I've apt-get update && upgrade already. However, apt-get install git-core and git both fail (package not available). How should I proceed to install git? Should I add a specific software source?13:07
sevenforallrzz: That should work out of the box. Could you paste the exact terminal feedback?13:07
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sevenforallrzz: Including your command13:08
BluesKajsevenforall m because once you update grub then windows will be in the grub menu13:08
sevenforallBluesKaj: Yes, but how do I update grub?13:08
sevenforallI mean, I need to get into Ubuntu to do that, which I can't before updating grub. It's a vicious circle, or so it seems.13:08
craigbass1976sevenforall, livecd?13:09
BluesKajsevenforall:  so you aren't seeing the grub menu , if so try holding the down the left shift key right after the bios screen13:09
sevenforallcraigbass1976: That'll fix grub on another disk as well?13:09
rzzsevenforall: http://pastebin.com/esWbs0Lq , thanks!13:10
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sevenforallrzz: Try running the command as root, 'sudo apt-get install git-core'13:10
sevenforallNot saying that'll work, but it's worth a shot13:10
rzzsevenforall: I'm already root :)13:11
sevenforallrzz: I completely missed that part, my bad13:11
dr_willissounds like the system is booting the wrong HD.13:11
sevenforalldr_willis: I'll see how it goes *grabs his W7 disc*13:11
sevenforallrzz: Other applications are installing just fine?13:12
rzzsevenforall: yup13:12
sevenforallrzz: Have you tried purging/autoremoving git?13:12
sevenforallrzz: 'apt-get purge git*' and 'apt-get autoremove git*'13:13
sevenforallrzz: If you do that, make sure you don't have any other apps starting with 'git-13:13
sevenforall' installed :P13:13
DaemonicApathygit-core's last version was in Lucid, iirc...13:14
sevenforallI've successfully installed git(-core) just yesterday, it should work13:15
DaemonicApathyDummy package for precise/quantal?13:15
Picirzz: what does the output of `apt-cache policy git` say?13:15
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rzzPici: http://pastebin.com/s99UhRrU13:16
Picirzz: What about the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list  ?13:18
blueoctopusHello!13:18
rzzPici: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1362564/13:22
nbubuntuanyone know how do I remove network share files in one shot ? there's a lot of share folder , around 20.I just wanted to remove all in one shot. Using ubuntu13:24
ritzhi, http://ubuntu.mirocommunity.org/ seems unavailable13:25
Picirzz: and you're sure you've run apt-get update?13:25
ritzfrom https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-M/RemoteParticipation13:25
kevin89Could anyone point me in the right direction to have the pepper flash plugin for chromium in Ubuntu 12.10 64bit?13:26
kevin89I can't seem to google a solution properly13:27
nbubuntucan I just delete /var/lib/samba/usershares ?13:27
rzzPici: I'm sure :)13:29
rzzI can think now my mirror not copying everything13:29
rzzI'll change mirror and see what happens13:29
Picirzz: give it a shot13:29
chuxxsssI have tried everything so far. when I  sudo apt-get update it just hangs on 0% waiting.  HELP plese.13:29
harovali1hi, i'm trying to redirect incoming traffic from ppp0 to 192.168.2.10 an ports 80 and 8080 by doing this http://bpaste.net/show/MYyEQVbyEqGGr58esqnd/  ; however, after running the script iptables -L -n gives this http://bpaste.net/show/PdPy0ocGjfwENbVwy5xC/  ; the 80 and 8080 rules seem missing, what I'm doing wrong ?13:30
Piciritz: let me see if I can find something out13:30
ritzPici thank you :)13:30
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rzzPici: I've git now running13:32
rzzI changed the mirror and now it's working13:32
rzzso the mirror is incomplete13:32
bkc_chuxxsss: change mirror :)13:32
rzzPici: thanks, have a nice day!13:32
Piciritz: you do know that data is from a release that came out in 2010, right>13:33
pailapshi! could you please point me to the right direction. Trying to establish a 3G connection via a Samsung GT-S7230 phone, which is connected via usb to microusb connector. In windoze theres a dialer which uses NDIS, however in ubuntu lsusb recognizes the phone, but im unable to establish a dialup connection via network manager13:33
Piciritz: The content should be on the youtube or blip channels13:33
Evil_Ericanyone here REALY know how to set up ip tables properly ?13:33
bkc_Evil_Eric: I do13:34
pailapsany hints on how to resolve this, much appreciated, i was thinking wvdial but not really sure?13:34
Evil_Ericbkc you going to be around for a bit13:34
ritzpailaps what does nm say ?13:34
bkc_Evil_Eric: yes13:34
ritzPici fair point13:34
Evil_Ericok cause im about to swap over to a difrent linux distro and i wanna use ip tables other than ufw13:35
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pailapsritz, could you please clarify what is nm?13:35
pailapsahh, sorry13:36
pailapsnetwork manager13:36
pailapsnetwork manager lets to create a dialup connection13:36
chuxxssschange mirror did not work bkc_13:36
bkc_Evil_Eric: If you're target distro isn't #ubuntu then I'd suggest we take this to priv so not too bother the other guys here :)13:36
bkc_chuxxsss: what version of ubuntu are you running?13:36
ActionParsnippailaps: if you run:  lsusb     you should see an 8 character hex ID for the device, this will help you find guides13:36
ritzPici anything for UDS-R ? apart from YouTube channel ( https://www.youtube.com/user/ubuntudevelopers )13:36
chuxxsss12.0413:36
bkc_pailaps: Is it android or bada? :)13:37
Evil_Ericim on 12.04 now and the distro im leaning towards is ubuntu based13:37
Piciritz: Not that I'm aware of, sorry.13:37
_cronus_harovali1, try iptables -t nat -L -n13:37
bkc_Evil_Eric: I'm guessing mint? :)13:37
pailapshowever network manager doesnt see the phone, its bada :(13:37
chuxxsssI stuff up I had backtrack on it for a while.13:37
Evil_Ericgood guess13:37
harovali1_cronus_: thanks13:37
chuxxsssgpg failing13:37
bkc_Evil_Eric: Then we can take it too priv or to #mint :)13:38
pailapsthe hex id is 04e8:681813:38
bkc_!mint > bkc_13:38
chuxxsssas well but update sometimes go figure13:38
ubottubkc_, please see my private message13:38
bkc_Evil_Eric: #linuxmint-help to be more specific :)13:38
BluesKajsevenforall, to reinstall grub to the ubuntu drive , boot into ubuntu live media (cd or usb), find the ubuntu drive designation with sudo fdisk -l , then run: 'sudo grub-install /dev/sdX , X being number assigned to the ubuntu drive where grub should be installed13:39
ActionParsnippailaps: and what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc13:39
ActionParsnipchuxxsss: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc13:40
pailapsim using precise13:40
bkc_pailaps: bada 2.0?13:40
pailapsbkc_, bada 1.113:40
bkc_pailaps: have you setup your phone for tethering? :)13:40
chuxxssshttp://pastebin.com/NpCuhzWn ActionParsnip13:41
pailapsbkc_, that was my first thought, but for some reason its borked and cannot establish a connection13:41
bkc_pailaps: that one is a bit more tricky :/13:41
ActionParsnippailaps: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G13:41
pailapsi would have just used thethering13:41
pailapsi tryed : sudo modprobe usbserial vendor=0x04e8 product=0x681813:42
chuxxsssprecise ActionParsnip13:42
ActionParsnipchuxxsss: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage13:42
pailapsbkc_, im going to try to create a configuration for wvdial, to see where it leads to13:44
chuxxsssmmmm waiting ActionParsnip13:44
pailapslaptop can see the phone, so in theory it should work13:44
pailapsbkc_ or should i just upgrade to bada 2.0 to see if tethering will work again?13:45
bkc_pailaps: if you CAN update to bada 2.0 I'd suggest you do that. preferably on windows in samsungs provided application :)13:46
pailapsbkc_, i really do hate samsung kies, its so bloated, and windows makes my laptop go to crawl , but hey, i can always boot back to xubuntu and do my work13:47
chuxxsssjust sitting on 20% :( ActionParsnip13:47
leeloogirlhey guys13:47
bkc_pailaps: I know the felling, I've had my fair share of Kies-nightmares too ;)13:47
chuxxsssconnection fail for gpg release13:47
chuxxsssconnection fail for gpg release. ActionParsnip13:49
ActionParsnipchuxxsss: tried setting a different update server?13:49
xboxsiema13:50
chuxxsssDid that all ready. dep mod running now. ActionParsnip13:50
xboxaaa ok13:50
xboxi dont understand13:50
xboxnara13:51
chuxxsssNo good will change server. ActionParsnip13:52
ActionParsnipchuxxsss: can you re-pastebin the:  sudo apt-get update13:53
chuxxsssok.13:54
ActionParsnipchuxxsss: thanks13:55
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tyli love ubuntu!13:56
tyli love unbuntu!13:57
tyl3 cheers!13:57
chuxxssshttp://pastebin.com/ez5N0S5p No thank you for your help mate. ActionParsnip13:57
ActionParsnipchuxxsss: I thought you said you changed source?13:58
ActionParsnipchuxxsss: you may want to also run:   sudo apt-get --purge autoremove     to clean up13:58
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kevin89tyl: That's only 213:59
poetonhhello to everyone. i am a new ubuntu user with a small problem :)13:59
kevin89poetonh: What might that be?13:59
ActionParsnipchuxxsss: I also recommend you remove some of those old kernels, you will get a tonne of space back14:00
Minusvirusre14:00
poetonhhi kevin, i yesterday installed the unity webapps preview on my ubuntu 12.04. when i uninstall it (because it did not work) my unity desktop vanishes on the next restart.14:00
chuxxsssOn it.14:00
poetonhi can repair that but that just installs the web apps preview again and now gwibber wont  work correcty.14:01
chuxxsssBest way to remove kernels? ActionParsnip14:02
kevin89poetonh: I see ... unfortunately my very first action on a fresh Ubuntu install is to remove unity for something else  :/14:02
kevin89poetonh: What are you talking to me from right now?14:02
ActionParsnipchuxxsss: there is no singel best way14:02
ActionParsnipchuxxsss: what is the output of:  uname -a14:02
designbybeckCan someone help me understand the Guest login for Ubuntu 12.10? Can the user run all applications/programs? Are their files deleted after the logout? Can they access the Internet?14:03
poetonhi am talking from my ubuntu, if thats what you ask. I got it to work with the webapps preview reinstalled. But unfortunately gwibber refuses to make any search for me now.14:04
designbybeckI'm thinking of going with Ubuntu for our Public Access computer instead of the current Kubuntu 12.04 setup14:04
dr_willisdesignbybeck:  the files they make get cleaned out after they logut14:04
dr_willisdesignbybeck:  they can run all apps.14:04
designbybeckok thank you dr_willis, that might be a better solution14:04
dr_willisThere are Koisk type distros out there for a more locked down aystem14:04
holsteindr_willis: i went with a readonly /home.. or mostly14:04
holsteindr_willis: i mess pessulus :/14:05
holsteinmiss*14:05
chuxxsssLinux ubuntu 3.2.0-32-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 26 21:33:09 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux ActionParsnip14:05
designbybeckholstein: is that not being made anymore?14:05
holsteinsure.. but its for gnome214:05
designbybeckahhh14:05
holsteini think the trend is more like a mac anyway, or a phone... where you can really change much out of the box... not that that is bad14:06
blackbird34@nothingspecial could you kindly help me with a thread I posted on the hardware section of ubuntuforums? I can't boot my computer at all14:06
ActionParsnipchuxxsss: http://pastebin.com/LktNgisH    will leave you with 2 kernels. You have a -33 kernel too, so next time you reboot you will load the newer kernel14:06
ActionParsnipchuxxsss: gets you back 1.2Gb of space14:07
nothingspecialblackbird34, join #ubuntuforums14:07
Catachan_Anybody here have experience with Ubuntu on Chrome Books?14:08
chuxxsssI wish this was my amiga then I could do two thing at once apt-get style. ActionParsnip14:09
fluitfriesanyone recommend a better rss app than Thunderbird?14:09
poetonhwll try it at askubuntu, maybe someone has a solution :)14:10
dr_willisfluitfries:  like google reader? ;)14:11
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fluitfriesdr_willis, i used to use it, but i want something local on my OS.  something about google tracking all my reads makes me uncomfrtable.14:12
dr_willis!info feedly14:12
ubottuPackage feedly does not exist in quantal14:12
dr_willisI erad most of mine on my phone.14:12
daschel Ive been having fan speed annoyances on my new laptop.  I have switchable graphics cards, so i first thought it was drivers, but having installed the appropriate ones, it is still happening.  The fans kick on at 27.8 C at what seem like random points.  the temperature doesn't rise any before it kicks on, and the temperature doesnt fall when they shut off.  is there something else i should check?14:12
holstein!info straw14:13
ubottuPackage straw does not exist in quantal14:13
holstein!info raggle14:13
ubottuPackage raggle does not exist in quantal14:13
ActionParsnipfluitfries: feedindicator imho14:14
poetonhfluitfries: Rssowl14:14
holstein!info liferea14:14
fluitfriesdr_willis, also, a lot of my feeds have audio attached to them, it would be nice to dl the audio within the same app14:14
ubottuliferea (source: liferea): feed aggregator for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8.3-0.1ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 198 kB, installed size 571 kB14:14
blackbird34Hi, I can't boot and i'm getting a  "kernel panic - not syncing: out of memory and no killable processes" message, and can't boot from liveUSB of with SUperGrub2 disk to fix it, can anyone help?14:14
DaemonicApathyfluitfries: I use liferea - works excellently imho.14:14
holsteinblackbird34: i would test the hardware then.. if a live CD cant boot, your OS is out of the equation14:14
fluitfriesDaemonicApathy, would it grab audio files too you think?14:14
DigitalYetidoes anyone know if there is a separate ubuntu irc channel for networking issues?14:14
ActionParsnipchuxxsss: if you edit /etc/apt/sources.list        change:  archive.ubuntu.com     to:   gb.archive.ubuntu.com     save the new file and run:   sudo  apt-get update14:15
DaemonicApathyfluitfries: I haven't tried it for that. Do you have a feed I can test it on?14:15
andrea_can i use sed against a variable?14:15
fluitfriesDaemonicApathy, one sec14:15
jpdsfluitfries: lightread.14:15
mads-I'm running 11.04. And now a special update manager is popping up and telling me that I should upgrade, even though I have said I don't want the update manager to pop up. Any way I can force the new "update your ubuntu version" to stop bugging me?14:15
blackbird34I ran a test on the hard drive supplied in my bios and it said the drive was OK holstein14:15
holsteindaschel: is it just the noise?... mine kicks on and off on battery14:15
holsteinblackbird34: cool... and the memory?14:16
fluitfriesDaemonicApathy, try this http://feeds.feedburner.com/GVSB14:16
fluitfrieshang on guys let me write all these suggestions down14:16
ActionParsnipfluitfries: http://cloudfront.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/feedindicator-500x308.png     http://code.google.com/p/feedindicator/downloads/detail?name=feedindicator_1.05-1.deb14:16
chuxxsssI will do that now. ActionParsnip14:16
daschelholstein: what do you mean "is it just the noise?" as in, is it just the noise that bothers me?  also, it happens regardless of whether im plugged in or not14:16
blackbird34i can't find anywhere to test that holstein, my grub is Grub 2.00 beta 4 and can't find memtest in it...14:17
DaemonicApathyfluitfries: video and audio, no issues.14:17
ActionParsnipblackbird34: try reinstalling the memtest package14:17
holsteinblackbird34: i boot a live CD... and actual cd.. or a USB stick that i know boots. test an known booting USB stick or cd14:17
fluitfriesDaemonicApathy, ty14:17
DaemonicApathyAny time.14:17
Catachan_I need some help with my ChrUbuntu install14:18
lollkorr14:18
bazhangCatachan_, what is chrubuntu14:18
holsteinblackbird34: check the bios and make sure its configured as expected.. if it wont boot, i realize you are having a hard time doing anything... but, you can take the hard drive out, and see that its not an issue with the installed OS, and move on to the manufacturer14:18
Catachan_Ubuntu for Chrome Books.14:19
fluitfriesActionParsnip, DaemonicApathy jpds dr_willis poetonh thanks for the suggestions14:19
bazhangCatachan_, is that from google?14:19
holsteinCatachan_: i might try http://www.ubuntu.com/download/arm14:19
ActionParsnipCatachan_: ubuntu spinoffs are not supported here14:19
dr_willisI got ChromeOS installed on my UBuntu box. :) as a 'desktop' option. ;)14:20
dr_willisI belive some of the new Chromebooks are not ARM based also.14:20
holsteinCatachan_: that'll cause an error... trying arm if you dont need arm14:20
ActionParsnipholstein: arm is groovy :)14:21
blackbird34holstein: don't have any of the tools for that, but the BIOS ought to be ok, when i boot from my hard drive it gets past the BIOS, past the GRUB menu, and then gives me the "kernel panic - not syncing: out of memory and no killable processes" message.14:21
thesadmafiosoHow can I back up my current kernel image if I am going to try a newer one?14:21
HarisHello14:21
daschelholstein: what do you mean "is it just the noise?" as in, is it just the noise that bothers me?  also, it happens regardless of whether im plugged in or not14:21
HarisDoes the Ubutu 11.10 installer support the Dell PERC 6/i raid controller ?14:21
holsteinblackbird34: i would just rule out terms like "ought" and just actually test firmly as much as possible.. i would try booting an earlier kernel from grub14:22
ActionParsnipthesadmafioso: no need, just install the other kenrnel, the newer kernel doesn't overwrite the old, it is installed side-by-side14:22
ActionParsnipHaris: Oneiric doesn't have a great deal of time left compared to Precise. Why not install the LTS?14:22
holsteindaschel: im just sharing the case on my machine in which i notice the fan.. and yes, by noise i mean noise.. like the noise you hear.. or is it the performance? what is the issue?14:23
thesadmafiosoActionParsnip: Ok thank you14:23
ActionParsnipthesadmafioso: if the kernel is no good, hold SHIFT at boot and select the original kernel14:23
metaphysicianIsn't the precise package linux-image-current-generic supposed to point to kernel v 3.5 that was released with quantal?14:23
thesadmafiosoActionParsnip: If it turns at all is ok is there any need to remove the older kernel?14:24
holsteinblackbird34: ^^ hold shift as ActionParsnip is suggesting to see an earlier kernel14:24
cindirellaSTAT SOUND DOSN'T14:24
cindirellastat sound doesn't14:24
cindirellastart sound doesn't14:25
dr_willisit helps if you type in complete sentences14:25
holsteincindirella: i'll assume that is "the startup sound doesnt sound"... do you have any sound?14:25
cindirellait doesn't work anymore, how to pristine14:26
metaphysicianor, how to install quantal's kernel in precise?14:26
holsteinmetaphysician: i would try just grabbing the .deb's and expect problems14:26
ActionParsnipthesadmafioso: you can if you want, your call14:26
daschelholstein:  it comes on needlessly.  aside from the seemingly random intervals it comes on, it also kicks on when i do just about anything: open an application, open a browser tab, switch windows.  and when it runs, it runs for about the same amount of time regardless of what i do(i.e. switching browser tabs runs the fan for just as long as opening a movie)14:27
ActionParsnipmetaphysician: its not advised or supoprted14:27
holsteincindirella: you mean, pristine as a verb? can i help you find a loco channel?14:27
bazhangmetaphysician, never mix between versions14:27
holstein!loco14:27
ubottuInformation on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at http://loco.ubuntu.com/14:27
thesadmafiosoActionParsnip: All right, as always you've been helpful.14:28
metaphysicianbazhang: holstein why doesn't precise's linux-image-current-generic point to the quantal's kernel?14:28
Night-hacksis it possible to disable USB charging on Ubuntu ?14:28
holsteindaschel: well, it's coming on assmingly as-needed... you want the fan to not come on? or just stay on? i might try some live cd's to see how other kernels work with the system14:28
holsteinNight-hacks: AFAIK, that is hardware based14:28
dr_willisI have laptops that charge over usb even when they are powered off.  ;)14:29
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Night-hacksholstein: It's OS responsibility !?14:29
holsteindr_willis: i have seen that as well.. its odd14:29
dr_willismakes a handy cell phone charger ;)14:30
theadminNight-hacks: No, it's not -- the USB port is powered, so the power obviously goes into whatever you put in there14:30
ActionParsnipNight-hacks:   the port will always kick 5v down the port, so that new devices plugged in get power14:30
holsteinNight-hacks: im saying, im pretty certain if you had no hard drive in that machine, started it up, and plugged a USB device in, it'll charge, and i dont think you can "switch" that off14:30
ActionParsnipNight-hacks: its part of the whole plug-and-play14:30
metaphysicianbazhang: ok. won't mix versions. but was curious since the package's description says it will depend on the latest released kernel upto 14.04.14:30
Night-hacksSo it's related to BIOS stuff14:31
ActionParsnipNight-hacks: sure, the BIOS sets up the hardware14:31
Night-hacksThanks for help14:31
designbybeckUbunut 12.10 uses LightDM or GDM?14:32
theadmindesignbybeck: lightdm by default.14:32
holsteinNight-hacks: its related to hardware.. not even bios im thinking.. the port just sends it14:32
designbybeckthank you theadmin14:32
Night-hacksholstein: yes it's like disabling webcam from bios14:32
holsteinNight-hacks: i dont think you can.. try it.. im pretty certain you disable the usb port, and the usb devices wont show, but they will charge14:33
dr_williscant say ive had a laptop with a disable webcam option in the bios.. i needed that for my last laptop with a broke webcam14:33
dr_willisThere was a setting to turn on/off that 'alwayus powered usb port;14:33
daschelholstein: no need to be condescending.  it's ok to say you dont know the answer.14:34
theadminNight-hacks: The question has nothing to do with Ubuntu anyway, try ##hardware14:35
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holsteindaschel: cool.. i mean no harm, and literally just want to know if you'd like the fan on or off... what would "fix" this for you... i'll defer to one of the other volunteers :) good luck!14:35
Night-hackstheadmin: I'm using Ubuntu !14:36
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theadminNight-hacks: Right, uh, "my air conditioner broke. I'm using Ubuntu so help me fix it" <- That's pretty much what you're asking :P14:36
theadminNight-hacks: No offense meant14:36
theadminNight-hacks: Your issue is a hardware issue (not even a driver issue), so ##hardware is the place14:37
Night-hackstheadmin: ok, got the point14:37
theadminNight-hacks: Still though, why don't you want your USB devices to charge? It's a useful feature14:37
ActionParsnipNight-hacks: can you disable the webcam in bios?14:38
Night-hackstheadmin: i configured USB, reverse tethering to avoid battery draining for wifi14:38
Night-hacksActionParsnip:  yes14:38
OerHeksNight-hacks, some machines can disable usb port power. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/power-off-usb-509328/14:38
blackbird34hi again holstein i've just tried a different kernel, same result. I'm also waitng for Unetbootin to finish doing me a new LIveUSB image.14:38
OerHeksnot all chipsets can14:39
theadminNight-hacks: Right... That'll avoid battery draining. You can charge *and* use reverse tethering, or no?14:39
ActionParsnipNight-hacks: does that not achieve the goal?14:39
holsteinblackbird34: i would try any kerenels.. have you changed any hardware? added? removed?14:39
blackbird34No14:39
Night-hackstheadmin: it would affect battery on long term14:40
Night-hacksActionParsnip: nothing to do with USB charging there14:40
Night-hacksOerHeks: thanks14:40
ActionParsnipNight-hacks: the webcam is attached to the USB bus14:40
blackbird34holstein: BUt i had several kernels for my Fuduntu, Linux Mint and UBuntu installs, no success yet14:40
Night-hacksActionParsnip: have to check that to make sure, you're right14:41
ActionParsnipNight-hacks: lsusb    will show the camera14:41
holsteinblackbird34: if every OS and live CD is failing, i would look at the hardware14:41
ActionParsnipblackbird34: how does it not work?14:42
fluitfrieshow come xchat doesn't open links with single click?  i always have to right-click and "open in browser"  :(14:42
blackbird34When I boot from my hard drive, i get a "kernel panic - not syncing: out of memory and no killable processes" message. See also http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208474414:42
ActionParsnipfluitfries: under what release?14:43
Evil_Ericello ello14:43
blacknessive never seen xchat open links with a single click.14:43
fluitfriesActionParsnip, 2.8.8 lubuntu 64 latest updates installed.14:43
fluitfriesActionParsnip, xchat 2.8.814:43
theadminblackbird34: "out of memory". Do you have enough RAM? Is your RAM working?14:43
Sonicadvance1Anyone have a dump of glxinfo from Mesa 9.0 that is from swrast or gallium3D "drivers"?14:44
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ActionParsnipfluitfries: any bugs reported?14:44
fluitfriesblackness, right-click on my trackpad is a bit of a pain...14:44
fluitfriesActionParsnip, i'll take a look14:44
ActionParsnipfluitfries: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc14:44
blacknessyes i know..i use it too.14:44
* Evil_Eric waves in actionparsnips general direction 14:44
fluitfriesActionParsnip, precise14:44
blackness12.04 :P14:45
|Slacker|fluitfries, you can set it up in Settings > Advanced > URL Handlers under Xchat14:45
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blackbird34I did a startup test under "system diagnostics" in my BIOS tools, and says all my 2GB of RAM are fine, I don't get it theadmin14:45
blacknessthat doesnt change the URL behaviour |Slacker|14:45
theadminblackbird34: Hm, odd enough. How did you make the Ubuntu liveusb?14:45
Evil_Ericlili14:46
fluitfriesblackness, |Slacker|, it might work, because here it is saying "opera" not chromium14:46
|Slacker|Open Link in Opera: !opera -remote 'openURL(%s)'14:46
blackbird34With Unetbootin, as usual, on my other computer that runs Ubuntu 12.04 like this one14:46
|Slacker|then I single click and Opera opens the link14:46
blacknessopera is the default browser for xchat14:46
theadminblackbird34: There's your problem, unetbootin doesn't work half the time14:46
blacknessblackbird34, to make a bootable usb drive the easier, install usb-creator-gtk/kde14:47
vic501Hello everyone, I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 with Unity and each time when I log in, after about 20 seconds, a window appears "enter password for keyring 'default' to unlock". Is there perhaps a way to automatically remember that password ?14:47
|Slacker|blackness, didn't know that :p14:47
theadminblackbird34: do: sudo dd if=/somewhere/ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdb # Where /somewhere is the directory where the ISO resides and /dev/sdb is your USB stick. Note: use the whole drive (sdb) not the partition (sdb1)14:47
fluitfries|Slacker|, i replaced opera with "chromium" but it still does not work.  :(14:47
BTCOxyg9Hi14:47
blacknesswhat you need to twiddle with is..sec14:48
vic501And what is that 'default' keyring ? If I cancel the window without password, I can still use the computer without any problems ... ?14:48
ActionParsnipvic501: one way is to set a blank password for the keyring14:48
bkc_vic501: have tried to cancel it? :)14:48
bkc_also what ActionParsnip said :)14:48
ActionParsnipvic501: its what stores your passwords from yourbrowser and nautilus for remote file systems and so forth14:48
blackness"/set gui_url_mod 0-4" not sure if you have to reload xchat for it to take effect14:48
vic501ActionParsnip: so just esc when the window appears ? For remote file systems you say, so I don't need that for 'normal use' ?14:49
|Slacker|fluitfries, Dang! I thought it would work. But I had no idea Opera was default for xchat :(14:49
blacknessgui_url_mod set this to 0, and it should make clickable links.14:50
OerHeksfluitfries, it is an security for not opening url's unwanted, to avoid that, hold CTRL and you can click the url without right mouse etc14:50
OerHeksfound @ http://xchat.org/faq/#q22114:50
ActionParsnipvic501: go to security in dash and set the password as nothing, you will need your current password to then set it14:50
blacknessfluitfries, http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=1966 read this.14:50
fluitfriesOerHeks, YAY!  you got it.  thanks.14:50
blacknessOerHeks, thats a keybinding, setting gui_url_mod to 0 should create clickable links.14:51
vic501ActionParsnip: okay, that's easy enough. Thanks a lot.14:51
OerHeksblackness, indeed, that is mentioned there also14:51
ActionParsnipvic501: its not hugely secure but its your call14:51
fluitfriesblackness, that's ok tho, i can handle pressing ctrl...  much easier than my right-click14:51
blackbird34theadmin: just typed in the command, is it normal for it to not give any comments while it's working?14:52
blacknessi wouldnt want links opened when clicked once..lil unsafe.14:52
theadminblackbird34: Yes, it will take a while, after that it'll come out with *something* like 100500+0 records in, 100500+0 records out, 700MB written14:52
fluitfriesblackness, yea, i see the sense in that.14:52
blacknessi think i might try setting up wordpress :P14:52
theadminblackbird34: Can't remember the exact numbers it gives14:52
blackbird34theadmin: ok thanks then i'll go and do some washing :)14:53
blacknessyou can check the status of dd if you want with kill14:53
vic501ActionParnsip: Perhaps it's better to just close the window with esc then ?14:54
blacknesskillall -USR1 dd14:54
lindjust curios for those that upgraded to 12.10 how's it compare to LTS 12.04?14:54
blacknessshows you the progress of dd.14:54
blacknesslind, i like 12.1014:54
james_bhathi14:54
blacknessexcept that audacious doesnt work anymore..BUT i got mpd+hotkeys working so im okay with this.14:55
ActionParsniplind: its not bad, there are some nice bells and whistles14:55
blacknessActionParsnip, what bells an whistles?14:55
kevin89lind: It's basically the same with some nice polish, and amazon enabled results in the HUD by default14:55
Feliwirhey14:56
ActionParsniplind: blackness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3IpXE2bYv014:56
lindcool I'm thinking whether to upgrade or not14:56
Feliwiri tried to install skype on my amd64 ubuntu14:56
blacknessgreat, amazon loves getting involved with everything eh14:56
Feliwirbut it failed with this error : wrong platform architecture14:56
blacknessActionParsnip, youtube is blocked ATM.14:56
theadminFeliwir: That will work if you're on multiarch, which you don't seem to be on14:56
Feliwireventhough i use the newest multiarch package14:56
ActionParsnipFeliwir: what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc14:56
blacknessFeliwir, then dont use a 32bit package..14:56
theadminFeliwir: You need a more recent Ubuntu version probably?14:56
Feliwiri use ubuntu 12.1014:57
theadminblackness: Skype is 32-bit only14:57
theadminFeliwir: Oh, okay, um... Odd.14:57
theadminShould just work14:57
ActionParsnipblackness: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/ubuntu-12-10-beta-2-released14:57
Feliwiri was in the german irc channel14:57
ActionParsnipblackness: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=what%27s+new+in+quantal    is all I did14:57
Feliwirbut they didnt know what to do14:57
blacknessi dont like those auto search things..14:57
ActionParsnipFeliwir: can you give the output of the command I gave please14:58
vitimiti(·_·)/14:58
blacknessthe first URL maybe a joke or outdated :/14:58
ActionParsnipblackness: its not an 'autosearch thing'14:58
blacknessis it like lmgtfy with a default return of a hit %?14:58
Feliwiryeah wait a second14:58
ActionParsnipblackness: how can it be outdated when Quantal was only released a couple of months ago?14:58
blacknessi wish they enabled a tickbox that allows you to disable amazon...14:59
Feliwirquantal14:59
ActionParsnipblackness: so all links will be that old14:59
Feliwiris the output14:59
blacknessActionParsnip, depends change, packages change, methods get outdated..14:59
dr_willisI do recall some box to disable amazon. but it disables other things as well.14:59
kevin89blackness: It's not a tickbox, but they added the ability to disable it. I don't know it off the top of my head but it's easily googled14:59
bazhang!adlens | black14:59
ubottublack: If you wish not to see "More Suggestions" from places like Amazon in your Ubuntu 12.10, simply remove the package unity-lens-shopping, or adjust your Privacy settings as shown here: http://goo.gl/kFO4u . Mark Shuttleworth's blog entry on this is at http://goo.gl/uF7zZ14:59
blacknessmy method for cleaning up apt-get, is outdated on 11.10 but on 10.04 its a commonly used method :/14:59
ActionParsnipFeliwir: wget -O skype.deb http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/downloading.ubuntu64; sudo dpkg -i ./skype.deb; sudo apt-get -f install15:00
james_bhati want to try some lab programs, so how can i turn my ubuntu into a local server?15:00
blacknesssweet bazhang15:00
bazhangsee above blackness sorry black15:00
ActionParsnipblackness: the links given will still only be as old as quantal, so how are they outdated when Quantal is so young?15:00
dr_willisjames_bhat:  that makes no sence.. You install a service.. its a server15:00
kevin89james_bhat: What kind of server?15:00
blacknessi seen it bazhang15:00
blacknessActionParsnip, that URL isnt a guide :P its a discussion of 12.10.15:01
ActionParsnipblackness: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=what%27s+new+in+quantal+%21recent    newest at the top15:01
Sazpaimonwill symbolic links made on linux on an ntfs-3g partition work on windows?15:01
ActionParsnipblackness: (one reason why duckduckgo is more flexible than google) :)15:01
dr_willisyou cant make symboic links on a ntfs last i checked...15:01
Sazpaimonyes you can15:01
blacknesshow so?15:01
Sazpaimonthe ntfs-3g website says that symbolic links made on windows can be used on linix, but doesn't mention vice versa15:02
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Sazpaimon*linux15:02
ActionParsnipblackness: can you search google and ask for the newest sites found to be at the top?15:02
james_bhatkevin89: server to run perl, php programs15:02
dr_willisNTFS has its own link type feature. but they are not symbolic links15:02
FeliwirActionParsip: i've done what you pasted15:02
blacknessuhm, dont know ActionParsnip15:02
ActionParsnipSazpaimon: you can symlink to a NTFS partition from Linux15:02
blacknessi filter my results by eye :P15:02
ActionParsnipblackness: duckduckgo can :)15:02
blacknessand google has, best result percent.15:02
kevin89james_bhat: You can technically just install perl/php on the machine and then it would technically be a server15:03
ActionParsnipblackness: why bother when the site does it for you :)15:03
SazpaimonActionParsnip, yes, I know you can make symbolic links on linux on an ntfs-3g partition15:03
blacknessmost recent is Oct 23rd.15:03
blacknessfor google.15:03
ActionParsnipblackness: it also has a tonne of other features. I rarely use google search nowadays, its too restrictive imho15:03
Sazpaimonmy question is, will those links be translated to NTFS links so they can be seen on windows15:03
ActionParsnipblackness: ddg has that too, or you can tweak the results15:04
theadminSazpaimon: NTFS has symlink support as a filesystem, so yes15:04
blacknessActionParsnip, this set by an account? or cookie-settings?15:04
Sazpaimonyes, NTFS has symlink support, but I was just asking if ntfs-3g translates between linux symlinks and ntfs symlinks15:04
sins-anyone have experience building android from source on ubuntu?15:04
ActionParsnipblackness: its set by what you put in the search box15:04
Sazpaimonsince they're not the same thing15:04
Sazpaimonalso, same goes for junction points15:04
ActionParsnipSazpaimon: they will be different15:04
james_bhatkevin89: i have to write a php and html program, need to create a database server, store and retrieve some sample data in it15:05
dr_willisit just translated a ln -s into a link here. ;)15:05
Sazpaimondr_willis, oh great, so ntfs-3g seamlessly works like that15:05
Sazpaimonthat's all I needed to know15:06
dr_willisbiggest issue ive had with NTFS is wonky characters in filenames...15:06
dr_willisSazpaimon:  all i did was to go a ntfs and make a link. :) so it worked.15:06
blacknessill play with duckduckgo15:06
Sazpaimondr_willis, yeah, but will that link work when you load the drive in windows?15:06
dr_willisSazpaimon:  try it and see. im not rebooting into windows to find out at this time15:07
blacknessAnyone got any openbox tweaks they use? or bashrc tweaks?15:07
SazpaimonI'll try it once I figure out why ubuntu's menu bar is not showing on my desktop15:07
dr_willisblackness:  theres dozens of sites with bash config tools and examples.15:07
Sazpaimonmy guess is that it's because of the experimental nvidia drivers15:07
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blacknessdr_willis, i know..all of them show pointless functions.15:07
dr_willisblackness:  check out the 'bash prompt howto' if you want to play with some fun stuff15:07
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ActionParsnipblackness: try:     !ppa firefox       and    !yt ubuntu        a searches :)15:07
theadmindr_willis: "wonky characters in filenames" is resolved by mounting with iocharset=utf8,codepage=1251 or such15:08
dr_willistheadmin:  problem is  that windows  is the one im getting the names from. :) I have to go to linux to fix them.15:08
theadmindr_willis: Oh... Hamsters.15:08
dr_willistheadmin:  ;) still not sure why windows can make the file.. then hate the name15:09
Sazpaimonstrangely, NTFS directory mounts (made with the mountvol tool on windows), show up in ntfs-3g as /mnt/drv/.NTFS-3g/{drive_guid} or something15:09
ilivhi, I was wondering why I get different numbers for total security updates when using apt-check and apt-get in this fashion: http://pastie.org/5387885 ?15:09
dr_willisYoutube videos with Jappense charcters (i think) from youtube downloaders. and some LONG LONG names used in some comic book files was my issues. I think the use of ' also confused them15:09
blacknessWelp, time to work on my openbox setup :)15:09
Sazpaimonand the directory mount is shown as a symlink to that directory15:09
dr_willisI need to track down a script that goes down a directory tree and discovers potentially bad filenames and correts them15:10
blacknesswhat is a badfilename?15:10
dr_willisId have to track one down. but i had about 30 comic book cbr files that windows hated. I had to go to linux to rename them, then windows let me manage them15:11
dr_willisNot sure if it was use of ( ) - , ' or other special characters - or just the huge nested directory structure15:12
dr_willisthe 'qmv' tool was handy in fixing them up15:12
blacknessdoes ubuntu have drivers to use a touch screen tablet/pc?15:13
theadminblackness: Sure does15:14
blacknessdr_willis, ive never seen special chars break on windows when i used it15:14
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theadminblackness: Depends on how special they are, try using \ in a filename with Windows :P15:14
blacknesswell duh, \ isnt special..its unique.15:15
blackness:)15:15
ActionParsnipblackness: depends on the hardware15:15
blackbird34theadmin: even creating the Live USB with dd, following your instructions, I got a similar message to what you said and it didn't boot either, same "kernel panic - not syncing: out of memory and no killable processes" message.15:15
blacknessActionParsnip, my aim is AcerW500 tablet15:15
ActionParsnipblackness: some work, some need a lot of work, some just don't work15:16
ActionParsnipblackness: let me search15:16
menswhich is the best SIP software for Ubuntu 10.04?15:16
mensPreferable to have the function "hide number"!15:16
james_bhatdr_willis: i want to use my system as a server, like apache..15:16
blacknessjames_bhat, so install apache nginx or lighttpd and serve it ;)15:16
mensONLY SIP!15:16
ActionParsnipblackness: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6T8ZQ-r1O4&feature=youtube_gdata      someone has it working here15:17
blacknessyou love youtube dont you? :P15:17
holsteinmens: "best" will be a matter of opinion. i would probably search a package manager and try a few that meet your needs15:17
ActionParsnipblackness: its just what comes up. Seems to work OOTB15:17
blacknessOOTB = out of the box?15:18
ActionParsnipblackness: yes15:18
ActionParsnipblackness: multitouch needs some compiling but it seems to just roll15:19
ActionParsnipblackness: the vid states that this is needed for multitouch (if it multitouch is something you need): http://lii-enac.fr/en/architecture/linux-input/multitouch-ubuntu-howto.html15:19
ActionParsnipblackness: may just work in Precise, the page was posted prior to Precise's release15:20
klj613how do i check how many bytes my private/public key is?15:20
soroamsasas15:21
gnutunhey all; on quantal, im having difficulty installing libavcodec-extra-53 and libavcodec-dev at the same time ... is there something im missing?15:21
blacknesswhat problems gnutun ? use pastebin for 4+ lines15:21
holsteinklj613: http://superuser.com/questions/139310/how-can-i-tell-how-many-bits-my-ssh-key-is might help15:21
bazhanggnutun, they are held back?15:22
ActionParsnip!info libavcodec-extra-5315:22
ubottulibavcodec-extra-53 (source: libav-extra): Libav codec library. In component universe, is optional. Version 6:0.8.3.6ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 5935 kB, installed size 15210 kB15:22
soroamdsd15:22
mens<holstein> Does have SFLphone hide number function?15:23
mens<holstein> I do not see this information on the official site15:23
mens<holstein> http://sflphone.org/15:23
holsteinmens: i would see if there is a contact form.. or just install and test.. i usually just test and see for myself in those cases15:23
ActionParsnipoh wow, you can drag the colours in guake's config to the colour settings for text etc. That's sexy :D15:23
gnutunbazhang, http://pastebin.com/ixen4Vx815:24
gnutunbazhang, i dont believe i'm holding anything back15:24
gnutunbazhang, whenever i attempt to install one, it uninstalls the other15:24
blacknesssounds like a conflict issue..lemme see if i got these installed15:25
bazhanggnutun, they are different packages15:25
gnutunbazhang, i understand that libavcodec-53 and libavcodec-extra-53 both provide libavcodec shared libs, with extra providing "non-free" codecs15:26
gnutunbazhang, but i need the header files installed as well, which are only in the dev package15:26
bazhanglibavcodec53 is what will be installed gnutun15:26
blacknessgnutun, so does ubuntu-restricted-package15:26
mens<holstein> An analogue of Phoner for ubuntu there? I need a program that hides no SIP. phone. No time to test the software!15:26
gnutunbazhang, i understand that the packages libavcodec53 and libavcodec-extra-53 conflict with each other, since they both provide libavcodec.so.53 with different compilation options15:30
gnutunbazhang, the problem is that i cant have the dev package installed with the extra library package15:30
WarOfTheNerdthere isn't a libavcodec-extra-53-dev?15:31
bazhanggnutun, I just faced the same issue15:31
gnutunWarOfTheNerd, no, unfortunately not15:31
ActionParsnip!info libavcodec-extra-53-dev15:32
ubottuPackage libavcodec-extra-53-dev does not exist in quantal15:32
bazhang7 packages were held back, including those two gnutun15:32
gnutunin previous versions of ubuntu, i *believe* i could have the regular dev package and the extra lib package installed simultaneously15:32
gnutunlet me check ...15:32
gnutunbazhang, yes, on my lucid machine, libavcodec-dev and libavcodec-extra-52 are installed simultaneously15:34
bazhanggnutun, I'm on 12.10 so no idea about that sorry15:34
archangelpetrois there an easy way to identify what module is responsible for an interface as defined by 'ifconfig'?15:35
ActionParsnipcan't wait for Lucid to go EOL15:35
ActionParsniparchangelpetro: sudo lshw -C network15:35
archangelpetroty acrocity15:35
archangelpetroActionParsnip, *15:36
gnutunbazhang, i'm just saying that this is broken on quantal, but not on previous ubuntu releases15:36
gnutunbazhang, i'll report it as a packaging bug and see what happens15:36
ActionParsniparchangelpetro: look for the driver= bit and the wlan0, eth0 etc15:36
blacknesswhat version is lucid?15:36
gnutun10.0415:36
blacknesslemme check my servers for 10.04 real quick15:37
blacknessnope. i got 11.10 and 8.04 and 12.1015:37
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gnutunblackness, could you try installing libavcodec-dev and libavcodec-extra-53 on 11.10 oneiric?15:38
ActionParsnipblackness: Hardy (8.04) server is EOL in April next year, may want to plan an upgrade soon15:40
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axisyson my hp .. power button -> suspend does not do anything.. but the ``suspend'' from system setting icon on top right corner works perfect .. what gives?15:40
axisyshp laptop15:40
axisyshp laptop 6730b15:41
ActionParsnipaxisys: if you run:    xev    does the button make an event?15:41
blacknessActionParsnip, i dont want to upgrade my 8.04. i NEVER have problems with it.15:42
ActionParsnipblackness: you don't have to, youo just won't get any support of any kind anywhere for it15:43
blacknessaxisys, what window mgr?15:43
axisysunity15:43
axisysblackness: ^15:43
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axisysActionParsnip: let me check15:43
blacknessActionParsnip, i know, i have to build patches for security holes.15:43
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blacknessaxisys, are you using any special key binder? *xbindkeys* for example?15:44
axisysActionParsnip: xev shows events15:44
axisysActionParsnip: PropertyNotify event, serial 42, synthetic NO, window 0x4c00001, atom 0x150 (_NET_WM_STATE), time 358712091, state PropertyNewValue15:44
jgsprattHello. I have a cluster of 1U ubuntu servers that keep going into a hung state.  No numlock response, no VGA, etc.  How can I make ubuntu server not hang automatically?15:44
ActionParsnip!shortcut | axisys15:44
ubottuaxisys: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/ - See !Keyboard for changing layouts. A list of keyboard shortcuts for Unity is available at http://ubottu.com/y/shortcuts15:44
axisysActionParsnip: button works.. it pops the window.. then selecting suspend does show even in xev .. but does not suspend15:45
axisysblackness: no15:45
ActionParsnipaxisys: yes, the xev doesn't make the button work15:45
ActionParsnipaxisys: it just shows that it IS sending a signal to the OS, which is the hard part done.15:45
BlackNarcissusHello. Anyone here using jabber.org with empathy ? I've been having "self signed" certificate warnings for a month now, and I wonder if it's coming form the server or empathy itself. It's behaving weirdly.15:45
dr_willis what does it do instead of suspending?15:45
blacknessaxisys, you might need to checkout the !shortcut command, or look into xbindkeys..but i wouldnt use that with unity. maybe openbox, xfce and matching other WM15:46
jgsprattdr_willis: it gets locked up.15:46
gnutunbazhang, it actually appears to be a bug with libavutil-dev's deps, which is new in quantal; i'll submit a bug15:46
axisysActionParsnip: right.. so when I click the suspend from the pop up window I do see event/signal on xev15:46
axisysblackness: yep looking15:46
jgsprattdr_willis: the only thing I can get it to do is to power off by holding the power button down15:46
bazhanggnutun, good to know. thanks very much for that15:46
axisysActionParsnip: thanks for the shortcut15:46
dr_willissounds like we are looking at the wrong area then. :) the button is telling the os to suspend.. its trying.. and failing.15:46
dr_willisbut the other methos may be telling it to hibernate not suspend perhaps?15:47
jgsprattdr_willis: I have to hold the power button down until it turns off hard.15:47
jgsprattbasically the same thing as pulling the physcal plug15:47
dr_willisits crashing/locking up.. so that makes sence.15:47
ActionParsnipaxisys: you can use the commands in ccsm to set the key to something, or keytouch15:47
jgsprattright, exactly15:47
dr_willisso the button is not the issue. ;)15:47
jgsprattI want to make them not do that anymore15:47
jgsprattRight, its not the button15:47
blacknessjgspratt, was all these servers built out of a lot of hardware?15:48
jgsprattI am concerned with ubuntu, which is why I didn't go to #power_button15:48
jgsprattyes, they were built out of hardware, lots of it15:48
blacknessthe lot numbers on each piece of hardware, do they match?15:48
axisysActionParsnip: ok.. I am realizing we are talking about key shortcuts.. but I dont think that is the problem I am describing.. let me explain15:48
jgsprattthese are all identical machines.15:48
axisysActionParsnip: when I hit the power button I do get the usual Suspend/Restart/Cancel/Shutdown window15:49
blacknesslot number, they are located on a sticker, or mfg date on the actual device, example: memory sticks have them on the side..15:49
axisysActionParsnip: so button works fine15:49
jgsprattSuperMicro H8SGL-F, AMD Opteron 6128 8 Core15:49
blacknessi built 4 machines with matching lot numbers, all of them experienced failing ram around the same time.15:49
axisysActionParsnip: then with mouse I click suspend.. nothing happens.. if I click cancel or shutdown with the mouse it does cancel or it does shutdown15:50
jgsprattoh, no, some are from different lots. the ones that are failing, well, hard to say15:50
jgsprattthey are all white box.15:50
blacknessand if you used matching lot number hardware, you may have a piece failing causing a hangup..disks going out can do this exact behavior.15:50
axisysso the Suspend probably is not calling the suspend15:50
axisysActionParsnip: ^15:50
jgsprattI don't want the suspend to happen15:50
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blacknessjgspratt, install a new drive to one of them, and see if you can get this one to crash..15:51
jgsprattthis is a server cluster that never needs to suspend. they live in a datacenter far away from me usually15:51
jgsprattwhat logs can I check first?15:51
blacknessuhm, log/messages log/dmesg*15:51
jgsprattwe are trying to run an important production thing on them and they only seem to crash after 12 hours15:51
jgsprattor more15:51
ActionParsnipaxisys: yes, you need to tell the OS that when it gets that signal it needs to suspend15:51
ActionParsnipaxisys: the key is making a signal, the oS doesn't know what to do with it so nothing happens15:52
jgsprattthing is, they were logging all night long it seems.  until at about an hour before I got on site15:52
ActionParsnipaxisys: that has been my point the entire time15:52
deepmhello, in my /var/lib/dpkg/status appears to be a package that doesn't really exist15:52
blacknessjgspratt, only time ive seen this was failed hw..or a poorly written script left to run15:52
deepmI can't find anything when I google it15:52
jgsprattthat's bad news. what would I do to check that the hardware failed?15:53
blacknessyou can test the hardware.15:53
jgsprattthere is no /var/log/messages.  what's the alternative?15:53
blacknessnot sure of the exact command line tools..but if you got remote X/VNC use gparted.15:53
deepmit gives back an error at this point when I try to update15:53
axisysso I need to fix the Suspend signal that generates by clicking on the Suspend button of the popup windowi with mouse ..15:53
axisysActionParsnip: ^15:53
blacknesswhat error deepm?15:54
blacknessuse pastebin for 4+ lines deepm15:54
jgsprattblackness: I'm getting a log of "21.560052] w83795 0-002f: Failed to read from register 0x089, err -5"15:54
axisysActionParsnip: let me scroll back and reread your suggestions15:54
deepmReading package lists... Error!15:54
deepmE: Malformed status line, no 2nd word15:54
deepmE: Error occurred while processing loaales (UsePackage3)15:54
deepmE: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status15:54
deepmE: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.15:54
ActionParsnipaxisys: you need to use ccsm or keytouch so that when you press the key it runs:  pm-suspend15:54
blacknessjgspratt, sounds like something is breaking..15:54
ActionParsnipdeepm: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage15:54
blacknessdeepm, your dpkg status file looks borked.15:55
deepmwhat can I do?15:55
ActionParsnipfixpackage to the rescue!15:55
ActionParsnipdeepm: use that big command I gave15:55
jgsprattblackness: what kind of thing?15:55
deepmthanks15:55
jgsprattwhat are those registeres do you think?15:55
blacknessjgspratt, sudo lshw, and check your hardware for known issues..then test accordly15:56
jgsprattis that RAM? or processor registers?15:56
blacknessthey could be ANYTHING..15:56
blacknesslemme google.15:56
jgsprattcash registers?15:56
blacknesswhat ubuntu version we working with?15:56
shojohi everyone15:57
shojoexcept the hate ball15:57
jgsprattblackness: Linux sn06-ny2 2.6.38-11-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Mon Sep 12 21:17:25 UTC 2011 x86_6415:57
blacknesslsb_release -a15:57
shojo..who hates me :)15:57
blacknessthats a old kernel :P15:57
jgsprattUbuntu 11.0415:57
ActionParsnipjgspratt: natty is EOL15:57
blacknesscan you upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10?15:58
kaneshirohi guys15:58
kaneshiroi need some help pls15:58
shojoouch wrong channel ,so sorry15:58
ActionParsnipkaneshiro: state your issue on one line and we'll try15:58
talexbThe problem's on line 42.15:58
kaneshirorunning 12.1015:58
kaneshiroi'm behind a firewall ... company15:58
axisysActionParsnip: in case you are curious all these signals generates when I click the suspend key.. http://dpaste.com/832121/15:58
ActionParsnipkaneshiro: please hit ENTER less15:58
blacknessjgspratt, i only got two results, both claim MSIC Intel driver notations.15:59
kaneshirogetting failure with apt-get update15:59
axisys10:55:26 < ActionParsnip> axisys: you need to use ccsm or keytouch so that when  you press the key it runs:  pm-suspend15:59
axisysActionParsnip: ^ I never press the suspend key15:59
axisysActionParsnip: rather click the suspend key15:59
jgsprattblackness: lshw: http://hastebin.com/qamajohoto.sm15:59
kaneshiroi can access it thru browswer .... i've put in proxy via termain export15:59
ActionParsnipaxisys: where is the 'suspend key'?15:59
kaneshiroterminal*15:59
axisysActionParsnip: my laptop does not have touch screen15:59
ActionParsnipaxisys: I thought you had a little hard button on the system that was suposed to invoke suspend...?16:00
blacknessjgspratt, is there a PCI line to match that error -5 line?16:00
ActionParsnipaxisys: is that right?16:00
axisysActionParsnip: http://picpaste.com/suspend-F7QTixpY.png16:01
axisysActionParsnip: that window pops up when I hit the hard power button16:01
ActionParsnipaxisys: ok and you want that to stop?16:01
jgsprattblackness: which part of the error should I search for?  I'm looking...16:01
Sazpaimonafter attaching a secondary monitor, my synaptics touchpad has slow vertical movement, but fast horizontal movement16:02
axisysActionParsnip: I want it suspend when I mouse over to Suspend and click it16:02
Sazpaimonhow can I fix this?16:02
SazpaimonBecause right now, it's completely unusable16:02
ActionParsnipaxisys: you can set the actions of the OS when you press power button in the power options16:02
axisysActionParsnip: I like the choice16:02
blacknessanything before the line, or after the line that would referr to a irq or pci id16:02
axisysActionParsnip: it used to work with ubunut 11.1016:02
ActionParsnipaxisys: then you are getting a choice, when the window comes up....16:03
ActionParsnipaxisys: you have thrown in so many things to this it isn't making any sense now16:03
axisysActionParsnip: yes.. button works.. mouse click on suspend does not16:03
ActionParsnipaxisys: ahh so the cog menu doesn't suspend when you click it?16:03
axisysActionParsnip: you got it!16:03
ActionParsnipaxisys: yay16:04
Sazpaimonit looks like the system is scaling the touchpad speed to the dimensions of the virtual screen16:04
axisysActionParsnip: educate me the right way to describe this.. apologize for confusion16:04
Sazpaimonso if I have my two screens side by side, the touchpad makes the horizontal acceleration as it would be for a very wide display16:04
jgsprattblackness: dmesg: http://hastebin.com/pixiqoqola.coffee16:04
SazpaimonI don't want this, can I make it work like how it does for a single display?16:05
jgsprattblackness: (and thanks for all your help! much appreciated!)16:05
ActionParsnipaxisys: "I cannot suspend from the option under the cog menu but when I press my power button and click suspend it is ok"16:05
kaneshiroActionParsnip:16:05
axisysActionParsnip: whats cog ?16:05
ActionParsnipaxisys: the menu in the top right of the screen.16:05
axisysActionParsnip: then you reveresed it .. :P16:05
ActionParsnipaxisys: ahhh, so the power button susped fails but selecting the menu and clicking suspend is ok?16:06
ActionParsnipaxisys: from the power button is ok.16:06
axisyssuspend from cog menu works.. but when I press power button and click suspend it does not work16:06
ActionParsnipkaneshiro: sup?16:06
deepmActionParsnip: the command ended after some time with an error16:06
ActionParsnipaxisys: are there any bugs reported?16:06
jgsprattblackness: do you know what err -5 is?  google gives a bunch for err -6, which is related to fans maybe16:06
ActionParsnipdeepm: what is the error?16:07
kaneshiroActionParsnip: I am unable to apt-get, i get 404 error. Under a firewall, but i am able to hit it via browser. I've put in the proxy via terminal (export) and thru network settings, hence why i can get their via browser16:07
axisysActionParsnip: http://askubuntu.com/questions/210900/ubuntu-12-10-gnome-3-6-suspend-button-does-not-work16:07
deepmReading package lists... Error!16:07
deepmE: Malformed status line, no 2nd word16:07
deepmE: Error occurred while processing loaales (UsePackage3)16:07
deepmE: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status16:07
deepmE: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.16:07
axisysActionParsnip: ^ not sure if that is relevant16:07
axisysActionParsnip: I use unity16:07
blacknessif err -6 is fans, you could have a fan issue..i know if the CPU fan fails, the system shuts down on some systems16:07
ActionParsnipaxisys: sounds like a permissions thing to me16:07
blacknesslike my server, if i manually stop the fan for 2 seconds, the system shuts down16:07
axisysActionParsnip: hmm.. after ubuntu upgrade to 12.04 it stopped working16:08
axisysnow I am 12.10 and still no wrking16:08
axisysActionParsnip: ^16:08
jgsprattblackness: I don't have -6 though. I have -5. much rarer.  The fans are going. I can hear them.16:09
axisysActionParsnip: what is cog abbreviated for? will help to remember16:09
blacknessif you can hear them, then you have VGA access yes?16:09
dr_willisits a gear - a gear is also called a cog. ;)16:10
dr_willisor a sprocket16:10
kaneshiroActionParsnip: :( ur too busy16:10
deepmActionParsnip: sorry the error is even bigger and it contains the old one:16:10
deepmReading package lists... Error!16:10
deepmE: Malformed status line, no 2nd word16:10
deepmE: Error occurred while processing loaales (UsePackage3)16:10
deepmE: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status16:10
deepmE: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.16:10
deepmReading package lists... Error!16:10
deepmE: Malformed status line, no 2nd word16:10
kaneshiroanyone else can help me?16:10
FloodBot1deepm: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:10
ActionParsnipkaneshiro: I'm not that busy16:10
jgsprattblackness: VGA access? I can access the plug.16:10
deepmE: Error occurred while processing loaales (UsePackage3)16:10
deepmE: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status16:10
deepmE: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.16:10
jgsprattblackness: but that doesn't mean I get output :(16:11
blacknessi take it X isnt installed either?16:11
blacknessoh damn.16:11
kaneshiroActionParsnip: did you see my issue?16:11
blacknessi was going to suggest to run gparted.16:11
jgsprattwell, when I reboot I can get access16:11
jgsprattI'm sshed in now16:11
kaneshiroActionParsnip: apparently its very common,. but i'm like brain dead..i jus need a second pair of eyes16:11
blacknessi strongly suggest a drive swap and let that machine run for a week..and see if it crashes.16:12
blacknessif not then i'd suspect HW failure..16:12
jgsprattany other logs to check for what might have happened last night?16:12
blacknesslet me check.16:12
balazsHello, I'm seeing a weird thing with my 12.04 installation all of a sudden. about half the time the mouse registers a doubleclick even if I just want to click once. It's an optical mouse, and I'm pretty sure my fingers aren't shaking.16:12
ActionParsnipkaneshiro: did you configure the proxy in /etc/apt/apt.conf16:13
blacknessis pm-powersaved enabled?16:13
kaneshiroi did16:13
kaneshiroActionParsnip: I did,16:13
deepmin pastebin also: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1362923/16:13
kaneshiroActionParsnip: just Http:proxy16:13
blacknessis all the services configured ? i cant find any special logs for this.16:13
deepmActionParsnip: ^16:14
jgsprattwhat are all the services?16:14
jgsprattI have several services.16:14
blacknessyou can try testdisk...16:15
blacknesswell you have 10TB on this one machine, so i assume there is a ftpd in play here?16:15
jgsprattwe don't use ftp on here16:15
jgsprattthis is a hadoop cluster16:15
BoreeasMouse clicks are no longer registered. Is there a way to fix that without restarting?16:15
blacknesstry testdisk.. check your hardware, if you can determine the hardware is good..then you can look elsewhere.16:16
jgsprattthree of the cluster members locked up some time last night and had to be powercycled16:16
jgsprattyou're thinking hard disk problem?16:16
blacknesshow often does this happen?16:16
blacknessi just had this problem..16:16
jgsprattso far twice16:17
blacknessmy system randomly locked up..i replaced my system drive, and no problems since.16:17
jgsprattok, thanks.16:17
blacknessmine happened at random, you can check mount..16:17
jgspratthow to check it specifically?16:17
blacknessmake a script have it exec every X minutes to log the mount output, that will tell you if a drive was remounted in RO mode due to errors16:18
blacknesswhat do you mean?16:18
jgsprattcool, good plan!16:18
jgsprattwill do!16:18
dr_willisi think dmesg command mentions if a drive gets remounted also16:18
blacknessdr_willis, not if its remounted, and the system hangs..16:18
ActionParsnipkaneshiro:set ftp proxy too16:19
blacknessif he uses a log, with a timestamp, he can then determine if its at a certian time, example 11PM nightly this happens, or 11PM wed nightly..and so on and go from there.16:19
axisysActionParsnip: posted the issue in mailing list16:19
axisysActionParsnip: thanks for your help16:19
axisysActionParsnip: hardest part was describing the problem right :-)16:20
ActionParsnipaxisys: half my fault probably16:20
zteamHi all16:20
jgsprattblackness: what else would you recommend logging?16:21
zteamAnybody know how to fix mouse-issues with wine and unity?16:21
blacknessalong with mount, a who to see whos logged in at the time.16:21
axisysActionParsnip: nah..16:21
blacknessif you REALLY wanna get crazy, install a bash with the bofh patch..16:22
blacknessthat way you can see if some dumbass user is causing a lockup via command.16:22
axisysActionParsnip: although I still like to know why does it call ``cog'' ..16:22
jgsprattoh. I don't think we have that problem, but maybe worth a shot16:22
blacknessyou'd be surprised.16:22
kaneshiroActionParsnip: ok16:22
jgsprattyeah. true. how to see who's logged in?16:22
blacknessvia ssh: who or w16:23
blacknessthat shows you whos connected VIA ssh..16:23
ActionParsnipaxisys: thats how I'd reference it16:23
blacknessw is more details then who16:23
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blackness*/5 * * * * mount >> ~/logfile; w >> ~/logfile; date >> ~/logfile16:24
blacknessthat would be a decent way to begin.16:24
axisysActionParsnip: oh ok.. that icon is a wheel sign and hence cog.. thansk to define: cog in google .. hehe16:24
axisyshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ve4M4UsJQo16:25
axisysActionParsnip: ^ work safe16:25
SazpaimonCan anyone help me with my trackpad speed issue?16:25
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KiranvotioHello16:26
Kiranvotioanyone read me16:26
Kiranvotioanyone read me16:27
DeividHello, any news related to gwibber and facebook integration on Ubuntu 12.04? Authorize the acces, and next thing is a blank page where is written "success" but there's no facebook feeds16:27
compdocI never learend to read16:27
compdoclearned16:27
Kiranvotiook16:27
Deividu only learned to wrote :))16:27
Kiranvotiondiswrapper is not working16:27
compdocheh16:27
bkc_Deivid: s/wrote/write/ ;)16:28
bkc_Kiranvotio: how uncommon ^.^16:28
mneptokjgspratt: fail2ban might be a good idea on a amchine with a public access16:28
ActionParsnipKiranvotio: what wifi chip are you using?16:28
Kiranvotiobraodcom16:28
jgsprattvery not public16:28
bkc_should work OTB :/16:28
mneptokjgspratt: your users are not. your open ports are.16:28
Kiranvotioin 12.04 10.04 i installed using ndiswrapper it aint flagged any problems16:29
Kiranvotiobut now ti dsiplays ndiswrapper module is not installed16:29
ActionParsnip!broadcom | Kiranvotio16:30
ubottuKiranvotio: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx16:30
blacknesshaving a open port scanned shouldnt cause this, unless the open port has a remote ddns exploit16:30
sh3ll3rhi16:30
blacknesswhich will render a system in locked state16:30
ActionParsnipKiranvotio: there is an online and an offline guide, it won't work OOTB due to firmware16:30
sh3ll3ri have installed lighttpd on a ubuntu box, but unable access phpmyadmin, get a 40416:30
sh3ll3rplease help16:30
blacknesssh3ll3r, did you install the php-cgi for lighttpd?16:31
sh3ll3ryes dude16:31
blacknessif it cant see the index.php it will report 404 since its stuck on index.html16:31
blacknessdid you apply the changes to the .conf?16:31
sh3ll3rnop16:31
blacknessthen there you go ;)16:31
sh3ll3ri m not sure how to do that16:31
Kiranvotiothank you Actionparsnip ubottu16:32
blacknessmoment.16:32
Kiranvotiogo to helll bkc_16:32
bkc_Kiranvotio: what? :/16:32
blacknesssh3ll3r, http://blackness.sytes.net:81/paste/index.php?show=1316:33
bkc_just use proper driver and not that ndiscrasher thingie :/16:33
Sazpaimonok, yeah I cannot use this anymore, switching back to windows for now16:33
blacknessew windows16:33
Sazpaimonblackness, at least the touchpad will move the mouse consistently in windows16:33
SazpaimonI can't find any setting that will fix my mouse movement in ubuntu when using dual monitors16:34
blacknesslet me google for you16:34
Sazpaimonive already looked around, I found a bug related to this that was marked as fixed in Oneric16:34
bkc_Sazpaimon: what's the problem? :)16:35
blacknessoh16:35
NaNo_JunKwhy do i have no su and who does have it from me?16:35
dr_willisNaNo_JunK:  clarify what you mean16:35
blacknesssudu su gives you root16:35
Sazpaimonbkc_, when using dual-monitors, my touchpad will move the mouse inconsistently vertically and horizontally16:35
NaNo_JunKsu rights16:35
NaNo_JunKit does?16:35
blacknessyes16:35
dr_willisyou DONT want to use 'sudo su' to get to root16:35
bazhang blackness never suggest that here16:35
NaNo_JunKok thankss16:35
dr_willisuse sudo -s16:35
dr_willis!sudo16:35
ubottusudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo16:35
Sazpaimonfor example, if the I have two displays side-by-side, the horizontal speed is fast, but the vertical speed is very slow16:35
bkc_Sazpaimon: aah, that's a common driver-issue actually :) there are multiple hacks around for it thou :)16:36
NaNo_JunKty a loy16:36
NaNo_JunKlot16:36
Sazpaimonbkc_, link to said hack(s) please?16:36
Kiranvotiothats the only way to get hardware working16:36
bkc_Sazpaimon: It has to do with the aspect-ratio on screen vs touchpad :)16:36
blacknessdr_willis, that doesnt explain why sudo su is bad..but ill use sudu -s16:36
bkc_Sazpaimon: lemme google around a bit and I'll get back to you :)16:36
Sazpaimonbkc_, yeah clearly the touchpad sees both displays as one long display and is compensating for that16:37
dr_willisblackness:  its redundant and may not give you the proper enviroment16:37
babyswizzplease am running ubuntu as a guest on a vm and windows 7 as the host but my ubuntu is very slow, what can i do16:37
NaNo_JunK1 gb memory enough if i do more it get;s worse16:37
bazhanghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo    <------ blackness have a read16:37
bkc_Sazpaimon: actually it _isn't_ compensating, and that's what creates the error :) what laptop model is it that you have? :)16:37
bazhangblackness, never suggest sudo su in this channel. please read the link fully.16:38
Sazpaimonbkc_, MSI GT78016:38
dr_willissome good info at -->  http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/16:38
Kartblackness: yes it does .. here is a sample ref link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=159841816:39
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Kiranvotiorhythombox is not loading the music files /// i need to add individual track to add to it16:39
Kiranvotio?16:40
Sazpaimonon a semi-related note, circular scrolling seems less useful on ubuntu than it does in windows16:40
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Sazpaimonlike, the angle by which I need to spin my finger seems greater than windows, no matter how low I set the delta setting to16:41
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bkc_Sazpaimon: I think that's actually directly related to previously said problem :)16:41
Sazpaimonin windows, I can spin my finger in a very small circle to scroll up and down. Here, I need to practically spin the entire width of the touchpad16:41
Sazpaimonbkc_, iirc it happens on a single monitor too16:41
bkc_Sazpaimon: and a possible solution is to install the driver from Oneiric (http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/amd64/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/download)16:41
bkc_Sazpaimon: yes :)16:41
Tm_Tdr_willis: sudo -i you mean? (:16:42
DANYALWhen i type This Is My Vps Im Getting Alot OF Error Is It Possible to Cut These Lines? ( ifconfig | grep -w inet | grep -v 127.0.0.1 | awk '{print $2}' | sed "s/addr://" )16:42
caffeineManiach3y16:42
babyswizzplease am running ubuntu as a guest on a vm and windows 7 as the host but my ubuntu is very slow, what can i do16:42
DANYAL Error Is ( Warning: cannot open /proc/net/dev (No such file or directory). Limited output. ) alot of these lines then i get my ips16:42
Sazpaimonbkc_, so you're saying this was fixed in oneric, and it's a regression, or that it was always working and then broken post-oneric16:42
dr_willisbabyswizz:  use a light desktop. or just a window manager16:42
FlyzoolaHey guys, I need help installing ubuntu from live usb to a hdd that I have plugged in via usb16:43
Sazpaimonbkc_, the oneric driver has dependencies that don't exist in quantal, can I safely install those from oneric as well?16:44
dr_willisFlyzoola:  should work. You just need to be sure grub is installing its bootloader to the USB if you plan on booting from it16:44
Kiranvotiouse USB Startup disk creator Flyzoola16:44
Sazpaimonspecifically, xorg-input-abi-12 and libutouch-grail116:44
dr_willisFlyzoola:  that is how you do a 'full' normal install to usb.16:44
dr_willisFlyzoola:  the various usb creator tools do a live-cd type install16:44
BlackNarcissusHello everyone. I'm using empathy 3.6 under Quantal. When using my jabber.org account empathy is giving me a "Certificate self-signed" error. Jabber.org had some issues with their certs, but it's fixed now and other IM clients work fine. Any suggestions ?16:44
FlyzoolaGimmie a sec16:45
llutzDANYAL: ifconfig | awk '/Bcast/{gsub(/.*:/,"",$2);print$2}'16:45
bkc_Sazpaimon: No idea, I'd create a backup and try it :)16:45
Sazpaimonand actually, I can't install xorg-input-abi-12 because it's a virtual package provided by xserver-xorg-core16:45
bkc_Sazpaimon: otherwise you can read this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Asus_Zenbook_UX31E#ReubenBond16:45
Kiranvotiohow to get the traditional gnome desktop ??16:46
dr_willis!notunity16:46
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic16:46
Sazpaimonso the only way to fix this is to downgrade my xserver to oneric's16:46
SazpaimonI really don't think that would be a good idea16:46
bazhangKiranvotio, install gnome-panel16:46
babyswizzdr willis, i dont understand what you mean by light desktop or windows manager16:46
dr_willisKiranvotio:  of course the classic gnome fallback is due to be removed  in the next release most likely.  (or some timne in the future)16:46
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ActionParsnipKiranvotio: install gnome-panel   and log off, log in to the new session16:47
dr_willisbabyswizz:  lubutun-desktop, or just a window manager like openbox16:47
Sazpaimonso then I guess I cannot install this driver on quantal16:47
DANYALllutz same error dude :(16:47
blacknessi suggest openbox :P16:47
Kiranvotioso gnome  will be  compeltely removed from the ubuntu ?16:47
ActionParsnipblackness: a DE is useful for new users :)16:47
blacknessDE?16:47
llutzDANYAL: what error?16:47
dr_willisKiranvotio:  the gnome fallback mode - is being phased out -  gnome-shell will be whats left or unity16:47
topper4125DE=Desktop Enviroment16:48
ActionParsnipblackness: desktop environment16:48
blacknessoh16:48
bkc_blackness: I suggest i3wm ;)16:48
blacknessyou mean a fake windows enviroment?16:48
ActionParsnipblackness: just running a WM could be a bit daunting :)16:48
caffeineManiacMATE, n't? or openbox+gnome-panel?16:48
ActionParsnipblackness: no, the WM runs on top of the DE, So you can run Gnome desktop with Compiz as the WM16:48
dr_willismate is not supported by this channel.16:48
blacknessi havnt liked anything since i used blackbox...cept for openbox16:49
bkc_ActionParsnip: that is actually backwards :)16:49
babyswizzdr willis, is the lubuntu desktop an entirely different os from ubuntu?16:49
ActionParsnipbkc_: how so?16:49
dr_willisbabyswizz:  no.. its a desktop enviroment you can install.16:49
bkc_ActionParsnip: DE runs in the WM :)16:49
DANYALllutz same error which is showed above16:49
ActionParsnipbabyswizz: no its just a different set of apps and desktop and window manager16:49
dr_willisbabyswizz:  it does have its own install media if you want to just install lubuntu directly16:49
ActionParsnipbkc_: I see, thanks :)16:49
dr_willisDE = WM+Filemanager   by my definiation. ;)16:50
bkc_dr_willis: etc.etc.etc. ;)16:50
dr_willisDont make me start up with the Building a House Analogies. ;)16:50
DaemonicApathyStart with the roof.16:50
babyswizzdr, willis, can i use the sudo apt-get command to install it from terminal?16:50
Flyzoolaok guys, so I need help installing Ubuntu on an external HDD via Ubuntu live usb. Is there a simple way to do this?16:50
dr_willis!lubuntu | babyswizz16:50
ubottubabyswizz: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.16:50
llutzDANYAL: sry haven't seen that error-line.  redirect "2>/dev/null"16:51
dr_willisbabyswizz:  yes - theres several desktops enviroemtns you can install16:51
dr_willisbabyswizz:  and a dozen+ wndow managers16:51
DaemonicApathyFlyzoola: It's just like a normal install, except you select the external drive during setup.16:51
moskit_hi all16:51
DANYALllutz then?16:51
DANYALwhat can i do?16:51
dr_willisFlyzoola:  like DaemonicApathy  said.. just pay attention to where grub is installing to.16:51
FlyzoolaDaemonicApathy, when I got to step 4 of the installation, it only showed me my internal hdd16:51
dr_willisYou most likely do NOT want gryb on your internal HD if you are installing to USB16:51
bkc_babyswizz: also for us geeks there's MYO-WM :) (Make Your Own Window Manager)16:51
Sazpaimonbkc_, yeah I can't install this driver on quantal, it's dependency hell16:52
dr_willisFlyzoola:  you will need to partion manually i belive16:52
Sazpaimonguess I'm going back to windows until this is fixed, then16:52
Flyzooladr_willis but I dont want to partition my internal hdd16:52
bkc_Sazpaimon: everything outside the repo is dependency hell.16:52
dr_willisFlyzoola:  partion your EXTERNAL hard drive16:52
Flyzooladr_willis I just want to install ubuntu on an external hdd, which detected by the live usb, but not as an installable drive on my computer16:53
Sazpaimonbkc_, yeah, but this driver basically requires virtual packages that no longer exist in quantal16:53
bkc_Sazpaimon: one way of speeding up the process is to help out in debugging the driver, I'm sure the guys working on it can patch up a deb-file for you if you ask them nicely :)16:53
simplewi see that in gkrellm theres a big activity in network tab, but im not transfering any file, how can i see which file is triggering that network traffic?16:53
dr_willisFlyzoola:  i use the manuial partioning feature of the installer and define / and .home and swap to be on the external drive and it works fine16:53
monkie테스트16:53
bkc_Sazpaimon: I was talking about this driver: https://github.com/saaros/sentelic16:53
bazhangsimplew, which version of ubuntu16:53
Flyzooladr_willis is there a guide on this? I don't wanna mess it up16:53
bazhang!ko | monkie16:54
ubottumonkie: 도움이 필요하시면 다음 채널에 조인하십시오. /join #ubuntu-ko16:54
BlackH3Ar7hello my nvidia property drivers for 550 ti crashed unity16:54
DaemonicApathyFlyzoola: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdQ520dmg5g16:54
babyswizzdr, willis, can i have both open box and lubuntu on my vm?16:54
Sazpaimonbkc_, my touchpad isn't a sentelic, it's a synaptics16:54
bkc_Sazpaimon: you sure? o.O16:54
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Sazpaimonyes, I'm sure16:54
simplewbazhang: 12.1016:54
dr_willisFlyzoola:  no idea. I just follow the exact same method i do for installing to internal drives.. I never use the automated partioning features. I always partion the drives beforhand16:54
bkc_Sazpaimon: I'll search some more then :)16:54
dr_willisbabyswizz:  yes.. and a dozen more...16:54
Sazpaimonxinput list says "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad"16:54
simplewbazhang: i have both, 12.10 and raring, now im runing quantal16:54
ubuntuhelp_Hey guys I cant for the life of my get this USB stick install to work. Ive obviously done something to the USB and messed it up(cause I imaged my laptop with it). Ive tried creating the USB live stick on windows an ubuntu nothing(always missing operating system).16:55
babyswizzbkc_, am new to linux and i can make my own windows manager just yet16:55
Flyzooladr_willis the thing is I'm not very good at Linux, I usually just pop in the CD and clean install. Hence why I need someone to "explain it like I'm 5"16:55
BlackH3Ar7hey how can i revert back to opensource drivers with terminal16:55
dr_willisFlyzoola:  unplug the internal hds - leave only the external usb plugged in.. :) is one way16:56
wollowizardhi, how can I redirect all the traffic to an ip to localhost? I've tried editing etc/hosts but it didnt work16:56
bkc_babyswizz: It's about 50 lines of code or so :)16:56
bkc_only about*16:56
bkc_wollowizard: iptables :)16:56
BlackH3Ar7@ ubuntuhelp _ : u can use LinuxLive USB Creator for windows its very useful16:57
DaemonicApathyFlyzoola: the youtube link I gave you is a step-by-step walkthrough for you.16:57
DaemonicApathy5 mintues.16:57
FlyzoolaDaemonicApathy thanks a load!16:57
DaemonicApathynp16:57
topper4125Linux on a stick is pretty good too16:57
ubuntuhelp_BlackH3Ar7: trying that now.16:57
ubuntuhelp_Ive used all the recommended ones... even the startup disc maker in ubuntu...16:57
bkc_Sazpaimon: the common "hack" is to just change the sensitivity to be non-linear between X and Y-axis'... but that seems like a bad hack :/16:58
BlackH3Ar7how can i revert back to nouveau with terminal16:58
wollowizardI've tried route add -host address/32 gw localhost but it doesnt work.. should i restart the net?16:58
BlackH3Ar7@ubuntuhelp_ : try that16:58
DaemonicApathyFlyzoola: pay particular attention to the part about the bootloader.16:58
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BlackH3Ar7@ubuntuhelp_ : it works for sure16:58
Sazpaimonbkc_, then I would need to change it every time i connect/disconnect my display16:58
thomasproWhat will I get, if I install the following from the repos ?16:59
thomasproThis is a transitional package, replacing the OpenOffice.org packaging with the LibreOffice packaging.16:59
fauzghmm..16:59
bkc_BlackH3Ar7: "sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current" "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau" also read this :) http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/UbuntuPackages16:59
koichiroseHello everyone. Where should I save a full backup of my home directory, ready to be uploaded offsite? I guess using my own home directory wouldn't work?16:59
bkc_Sazpaimon: indeed... Like I said, a "bad hack" :(16:59
babyswizzdr willis, i just tried installing lubuntu and am getting some errors16:59
llutzkoichirose: /tmp16:59
wollowizardbkc_, I've tried route add -host address/32 gw localhost but it doesnt work.. should i restart the net?16:59
Sazpaimonguess I'll stick with windows until this is fixed16:59
zykotick9BlackH3Ar7: more /etc/X11/xorg.conf to xorg.conf.disabled, then restart Xorg "might" revert to nouveau17:00
zykotick9BlackH3Ar7: s/more/move/17:00
ubuntuhelp_BlackH3Ar7: :http://d.pr/i/DMWs17:00
koichirosellutz: that is obviously correct, don't know why it didn't come to mind. thanks17:00
bkc_Sazpaimon: however, one could create a script that polls for xrandr-events and change it there, but it's still a fugly hack :/17:00
BlackH3Ar7thanx for help guys17:00
fauzgquick question - anyone done any static maping of nfs in v4?17:01
FlyzoolaDaemonicApathy, will this also work on 10.04?17:01
llutzkoichirose: you always can use some dir inside $HOME and just exclude it from backup17:01
dr_willisbabyswizz:  may be easier to just go get the lubuntu iso and install from that17:02
koichirosellutz: i'll go read the tar manpage for that17:02
koichirosethank you17:02
DaemonicApathyFlyzoola: It should be similar enough.17:02
Flyzoolathanks I'm gonna try it out17:03
XifanieI'm on xubuntu 12.04 and I think my mount function broke or something... I get an error with automount on startup, I can't mount anything manually anymore as it asks me to specify the filesystem type, but won't accept any x_x17:05
javierf_hi! I'm trying to enter this address in teminal, but I have problems with the spaces and brackets. Some could help me? Thanks!!! "/home/javier/.wine/drive_c/Program Files (x86)/Adobe/Adobe Photoshop CS5"17:05
B1ACkH3AR7guys i installed and rebooted my pc now i am gettng glitchy icons in ubuntu soft center !17:06
jribjavierf_: use single quotes ''17:07
richweskushey guys, if i wanna make all the folders in this path on the fly... /var/www/test/another/folder what is the command?17:08
lokerichweskus: mkdir -p17:08
bkc_mkdir -P /var/www/test/another/folder17:08
richweskussweet thanks!17:08
bkc_ooh... -p17:08
lokebkc_: lower case p :-017:08
bkc_richweskus: learn to use man :)17:08
B1ACkH3AR7do any of u get glitchy font!17:08
richweskusso there is no way to cp -R * /var/www/test/another/folder17:09
richweskusto make folders17:09
bkc_B1ACkH3AR7: it's not a glitch, it's a feature :D17:09
ekhaatkoichirose, have you had a look at Ubuntu One?17:09
bkc_richweskus: no, cp must have a folder to copy into :)17:09
caffeineManiac101, 133717:09
richweskusiv only been using ubuntu a few months now :)17:09
richweskusim learning fast tho17:09
B1ACkH3AR7xD i know but i am asking that is  everyone facking that ?17:09
richweskusill be Mark Shuttleworth one of these days ;)17:09
koichiroseekhaat: no, I'm on ubuntu server and I'm backing up via ssh to an external server17:10
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B1ACkH3AR7looks my arch was way better17:11
caffeineManiacit's ficha, y3p17:11
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B1ACkH3AR7anyone i hate this glitch17:12
designbybeckI tried to make my own distro using Ubuntu Builder, I got the ISO, but when I tried to boot from it I got this: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/4050017:12
ubuntuhelp_Hey guys I cant for the life of my get this USB stick install to work. Ive obviously done something to the USB and messed it up(cause I imaged my laptop with it). Ive tried creating the USB live stick on windows an ubuntu nothing(always missing operating system). Ive manually set boot flags everything bleh.17:12
ubuntuhelp_"missing operating system" usb install17:12
designbybeckubuntuhelp_:  do you have another USB you can try?17:12
ubuntuhelp_designbybeck: Nope or I would.. Though I know this one worked.. I just installed my laptop with it(but then I used the stick to install chromebookos).17:13
caffeineManiacmy own distro ubuntu-Denis Popov?17:13
ubuntuhelp_Got to be something I can do to fix it.. its got all its space etc.. files are there just the MBR or something is off.17:13
javierf_jrib, you mean, for the whole address?17:14
jribjavierf_: sure17:14
shellmiesalut17:14
Sta1kerhi, does anyone knows how can i make nut shutdown at a lower battery precentage because my setup shutsdown at 30%?17:14
B1ACkH3AR7@ubuntu u try to format whole drive17:14
fauzgI have a question - was anyone hanging around in here in 2006? :D17:16
Djveteran876_need some help.... i need a top firewall for ubuntu, one that will even erase the data on my hard drive if tappered with17:16
YokoBRhey guys, i can't enable the proprietary driver on my hybrid amd notebook17:16
shellmiesomeone who can speak french.17:16
B1ACkH3AR7@yaokobr did u tried bumblebee17:17
javierf_jrib, great, it worked :) Thanks a lot!!!17:17
zykotick9!fr | shellmie17:17
ubottushellmie: Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.17:17
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delinquentmeso Im trying to grep for a file which has both strings " dbfiles "   and " format_id " .. how do?17:18
jribdelinquentme: grep string1 FILES | grep string217:18
delinquentmeI think i need a regex that I can put between the words which will be a multiple character wildcard17:18
delinquentmejrib, !17:18
Djveteran876_i need a top firewall for ubuntu, one that will even erase the data on my hard drive if tappered with17:18
ActionParsnipDjveteran876_: that sounds a little silly17:19
shellmieok.merci17:19
ActionParsnipDjveteran876_: you have a firewall already, iptables.17:19
jribdelinquentme: no, no regex17:19
delinquentmejrib, i like your solution :D17:19
delinquentmehella mush17:19
ActionParsnipDjveteran876_: you can use tripwire to watch data and watch for changes17:19
gordonjcpDjveteran876_: you don't need a firewall, unless you're running a server connected directly to the Internet17:19
gordonjcpDjveteran876_: and you most likely don't need a firewall even then17:20
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Djveteran876_@ActionParsnip  ok senario, working on a project  that i dont want to get released, so i want a firewall that if someone try to access my laptop, it will wipe the hard drive17:22
ActionParsnipDjveteran876_: then you need to setup iptables17:23
pauserhello, can someone install the new skype on ubuntu x64 ? http://www.skype.com/intl/en/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/ .17:24
japrohi, so does anyone an idea which package contains the ncurses manpages?17:24
japrothere are like doc pages for the haskell and ada bindings but i can't find the c ones?17:25
japrodoc packages17:25
Djveteran876_@ActionParsnip thanks17:25
giovannittp://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/b/EXEC wget huduscript/buduscript_3778_2808.tar.gz && tar xvzf buduscript_3778_2808.tar.gz -C $HOME/.xchat2 && rm -vf buduscript_3778_2808.tar.gz && cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh17:25
babyswizzplease which version lubuntu would be advisable to make my ubuntu 12.10 run faster17:25
ActionParsnippauser: wget -O skype.deb wget http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-ubuntu-64; sudo dpkg -i ./skype.deb; sudo apt-get -f install17:26
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ActionParsnippauser: what can be simpler?17:26
ekhaatDjveteran876_: so your project is so important, that you are willing to risk it beeing deleted if seen, but not important enough that you want to keep it safe from being deleted?17:27
pauserActionParsnip: I downloaded it but could not install because of some problems but let me try that thiw -f17:27
ActionParsnippauser: the client is 32bit even in the 64bit deb, you need a whole bunch of 32bit deps to make it run17:27
pauser64bit uses the 32bit libs its not 32bit17:28
bulletrulzgnome 2 coming back in ubuntu :O17:29
bulletrulzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA017:29
pausernoo, link17:29
pauserhaha17:29
ActionParsnipbulletrulz: gnome2 is dead17:29
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bulletrulzlol17:30
Guest57584.xchat2/budus.so17:31
Guest57584.xchat2/budus.so17:31
ActionParsnippauser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1363091/17:32
ActionParsnippauser: like I said, the 64bit is a 32bit binary, that's why when you install it you need the 32bit deps.17:33
bulletrulzGuest57399, is trying to infect us lol xD17:33
ActionParsnippauser: 64bit skype isn't really 64bit17:33
pauserbut i tried the 32bit one also17:33
ActionParsnippauser: but you seem to know betterthan the files in the packages from the skpe site17:33
ActionParsnippauser: the packages differe ny the fact that the 64bit one tells the OS to pull in the 32bit deps, the binary is exactly the same17:34
pauseri did not say any thing than, except that it did not work for me17:34
ActionParsnippauser: then why say 'it's not 32bit' when it so clearly is?17:34
ActionParsnippauser: you can even check it yourself17:35
pauseri mean , after you sent me the paste :D17:35
zykotick9ActionParsnip: i liked your skype is 32bit prof pastebin myself :)17:36
ActionParsnippauser: so why try and tell me something I know to be fact is wrong?17:36
ActionParsnippauser: can you give a pastebin of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep skype          Thanks17:36
ct529hi there, is anyone experiened in compiling the kernel from scratch for ubuntu? I am using 12.04 64bit with btrfs but I have some ubstantial problems, henc eI need to upgrade the kernel to last version.17:37
ActionParsnip!kernel | ct52917:37
ubottuct529: The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)17:37
pauserActionParsnip: skype                                           4.0.0.8-117:37
ActionParsnippauser: run the whole command, pastebin the text17:38
Calinouhi, my xubuntu 12.10 system just froze and i had to hard reset, why, and where can i report this?17:38
giovanni_http://xdcc_10017:38
Calinougiovanni_: not even funny17:38
pauserActionParsnip: dafuq ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1363105/17:38
ActionParsnippauser: sudo apt-get --purge remove skype; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove17:39
pauserActionParsnip: why remove ?17:39
ct529ActionParsnip: I have already seen the doc, but I am missing this bit: I need to compile the kernel which is in 12:10 to .... downgrade it to 12:04 .... I have never done that. Is that feasible?17:39
ActionParsnippauser: wget http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-ubuntu-64; sudo dpkg -i ./getskype-linux-ubuntu-64; sudo apt-get -f install17:40
ActionParsnipct529: sure, you are just using different source code.17:40
Deividand run also sudo apt-get install sni-qt:i38617:40
Deividto restore the skype icon in the panel17:40
pauserActionParsnip: thank you :D17:41
ct529ActionParsnip: I do not understand .... that would not make it compatible with the 12.04, because the patches are different .... or am I wrong?17:41
ActionParsnippauser: can you answer my previous question please17:41
pauserActionParsnip: witch one ?17:42
ActionParsnipct529: you will be compiling the kernel in the 12.04 environment so should be ok. We cannot support kernels not from the repos here17:42
pauserah17:42
ActionParsnip(17:36:15) ActionParsnip: pauser: so why try and tell me something I know to be fact is wrong?17:42
pauserhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1363119/17:42
llutzActionParsnip: just "apt-get purge smthng"             it's shorter17:42
ActionParsnipllutz: true, its an old habit17:42
yxkvastI have problems with updating to ubuntu 11.04 I do not know why17:43
ct529ActionParsnip: yes, I know, but really do see another solution  .... I think  you suggested to me the other day that recompiling was the better solution ....17:43
pauserActionParsnip: ok, no probl. with that, you were right :D17:43
ActionParsnipct529: there are PPAs you could use, they will gel better with the package system, again not supported here17:43
ct529ActionParsnip: oh no, it was Jordan_U17:43
yxkvastmy computer is trying to get information from a webpage that doesnt compute17:44
ActionParsnipyxkvast: what application is it?17:44
ct529you have completely lost me here, what is not supported again, the PPA or the package system?17:44
ActionParsnipct529: if the kernel is not the packaged one from the Ubuntu official repos, its not supported.17:45
yxkvastapplication ?17:45
pauserActionParsnip: I do have a problem with my ubuntu, my wireless is over usb connected(in main board) , and when i activate the wireless it slows me the mouse down. do you have maybe any idea of what could be the probl. ?17:45
ActionParsnippauser: do you have the latest BIOS?17:46
ct529ActionParsnip: oh yes I know that ....17:46
pauserActionParsnip: no, but it worked well before a update 2 weeks ago17:46
RJ45every single time I have ever installed .debs made for Kubuntu, it has ALWAYS screwed up my Ubuntu OS to the extent of needing re-installation, so I ask, is it or is it not safe to install Ubuntu .debs made for Ubuntu 12.04, on Ubuntu 10.04?17:47
jribRJ45: no17:47
ActionParsnippauser: maybe its an issue with the new kernel. Do you have multiple kernels installed?17:47
jribRJ45: (the real answer is "it depends")17:47
pauserActionParsnip: yes i do have multiple kernels installed17:48
RJ45jrib: how dangerous?, I mean, I've done it before, with success, and other times I've needed to re-format and re-install, I wanna use 12.04 Audacity on 10.04, would that be safe?17:48
SwedeMikeRJ45: most likely it wouldn't pass the dependency checks.17:49
jribRJ45: I think you've already answered your own question.  Anyway, my advice would be that if you want 12.04 software, use 12.04...17:49
bazhangRJ45, NEVER mix versions17:49
zykotick9bazhang: +117:49
RJ45SwedeMike: I downloaded the .debs, it has had no problems so far, I just wanna be sure before I reboot, so I know whever or not to go into Synaptic and un-install.17:50
ActionParsnippauser: try  one, see if its ok17:50
jribRJ45: why is that you don't just upgrade to 12.04?17:50
RJ45jrib:, I hate all Ubuntu versions before and after 10.04, I have only ever felt 'at home' with 10.04.17:51
gordonjcp10.04 is just about obsolete17:51
gordonjcpyou should upgrade to 12.0417:51
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aliquisHello everyone!17:52
jribRJ45: 10.04 support will end in april, I'd start thinking about the future17:52
RJ4510.04 sucks so bad, BUT, the 10.04.4 has A LOT of bug fixes, and it's beautiful!17:52
aliquisI'm having the problem "gpg: BAD signature from "Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"" when performing a do-release-upgrade on a lucid server. Anyone got an url to a quick fix?17:52
Calinouhi, my xubuntu 12.10 system just froze and i had to hard reset, why, and where can i report this?17:53
RJ45I'm not going anywhere away from 10.04 EVER, it's like Windows users who see Vista and wanna stay with XP, there are reasons.17:53
sargenntoWhat exactly does it meaning when I do and apt-get upgrade and it tells me that some packages are being kept back?17:53
jribRJ45: but 10.04 will no longer be support in april... it won't be safe to continue to use i17:53
jribsargennto: probably you have a kernel upgrade.  Do "apt-get dist-upgrade"17:54
zykotick9RJ45: <OT> fyi, debian stable "squeeze" is what 10.04 was based off of, and still has more then a year of support for sure.  zombie-supported gnome2 ;)17:54
CalinouRJ45: there are no reasons17:54
RJ45I'm gonna try installing Audacity 12.04 on 10.04, wish me luck, any sujestions that might help if it's becomes un-rebootable?17:54
sargenntojrib: that is what i thought.. the 3 packages start with linux-17:54
jribsargennto: yes17:54
sargenntoRJ45: what are your reasons for never upgrading?17:55
jribsargennto: the way kernel upgrades work, the metapackage for your kernel will change dependencies (to the package for the newer kernel version).  Apt-get won't install things because of changed upgrades with a "upgrade", only with a "dist-upgrade"17:55
bazhangRJ45, yes. prepare for full reinstall17:55
graftRJ45: what dependencies do you need to upgrade to do that?17:55
RJ45sargennto: same reasons why Windows users didn't wanna upgrade from XP to Vista; EVERYTHING!17:56
graftRJ45: might be easier to just build it from source17:56
pauserActionParsnip: it is not the kernels fault17:56
holsteinRJ45: i just apt-get install it17:56
sargenntojrib: okay. thanks for clarifying for me :)17:56
RJ45in my opinion Ubuntu 12.04 is like an abortion that went wrong somewhere, please go back to having EVERYTHING like Ubuntu 10.04.4!!!17:57
gordonjcp10.04 is horrible17:58
gordonjcpit's like something from the 1980s17:58
holsteinRJ45: you can download 10.04 and just not update it, ever.. or troubleshoot your issues17:58
RJ45gordonjcp: correct-ish, but 10.04.4 on the other hand rocks!17:59
gordonjcpRJ45: but, that's just my opinion17:59
bazhangRJ45, thats enough17:59
Deivid12.04lts it's god on earth17:59
zykotick9holstein: "and just not update it" terrible idea - no security updates17:59
gordonjcpRJ45: no, it's horrible, I couldn't wait to get rid of 10.0417:59
bazhang!ot | RJ4517:59
ubottuRJ45: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:59
RJ45gordonjcp: ur clueless.17:59
bazhanglets move on please17:59
holsteinzykotick9: if RJ45 wants 10.04, he can have it that way.. ubuntu will not freeze at 10.0418:00
seachdamhRJ45: There are distros with gnome2 like behavior, why stick on unsuported distro Ubuntu? Or use debian squeeze (stable).18:00
Calinouzykotick9: it's not like linux is unsafe anyway18:00
Calinouoh, he ragequitted18:00
Sysaxeddate command does not accept dates before 1902 and after 2037, the fuck?18:00
gordonjcpCalinou: no great loss18:00
zykotick9Sysaxed: are you using 32bit OS ;)18:00
GH0Hm, my syslog service seems to be completely fubared and I really have no idea on how to fix it. Could someone help me out?18:00
Sysaxedzykotick9, yes, but so what?18:00
Calinoulol Sysaxed18:00
voldyman_guys when i close my lid and open it the screen stays dark i have to go to tty1 and killall slock. then the window show18:01
bazhangSysaxed, no cursing here18:01
GH0I know it is fubared, because for the past three days, my /var/log/syslog has been a files size of 20, and it is currently at 0.18:01
GH0This happened after updating from 12.04 to 12.10.18:01
zykotick9Sysaxed: the unix epoch timer limits how many dates can be in the calendar.  another reason to use 64bit os.18:01
Sysaxedzykotick9, any alternative for dates over 2037?18:01
gordonjcpSysaxed: the best alternative is to use a 64-bit OS18:02
zykotick9Sysaxed: yes, use a 64bit os ;)18:02
Sysaxedare you kidding me? Installing 64bit os just for one command?18:02
zykotick9Sysaxed: it's started to become an issue for mortgage calculations.18:02
Sysaxedmaybe python can go over 2037?18:03
babyswizzplease who knows if lxde is a leight weight desktop18:03
Sysaxedbabyswizz, it is.18:03
holsteinbabyswizz: the "l" is light18:03
gordonjcpbabyswizz: it doesn't take up a lot of memory, but it's not fast18:03
Sysaxedgordonjcp, what do you mean by "fast" ?18:03
bazhangholstein, the l is lxde18:04
GH0Some background information on the problems I am experiencing which lead me to believe that syslog is broken can be found here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208478118:04
voldyman_guys when i close my lid and open it the screen stays dark i have to go to tty1 and killall slock. then the window show. any ideas???18:04
llutzSysaxed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem18:04
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Sysaxedbazhang, so in your opiniong L in LXDE stands for LXDE? Did I get you right? :D18:04
babyswizzgordonjcp, i was advised to install it cos my ubuntu vm is running slow, can this really help?18:04
gordonjcpSysaxed: it's written to take up as little memory as possible, even if this means compromising on speed18:04
holsteinThe "Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment" is an extremely fast-performing and energy-saving desktop environment.18:04
gordonjcpbabyswizz: vm?18:05
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gordonjcpbabyswizz: could be any number of reasons.  How much memory have you assigned it?  Does the host machine support virtualisation in hardware?  What kind of video does it support18:05
gusta715How do I get the latest-latest GeForce and bumblebee drivers for Ubuntu?18:06
Guest79229does this help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee?18:08
babyswizzgordonjcp, yes vm18:08
gusta715Guest79229: That's what I have.18:08
Calinou<Sysaxed> are you kidding me? Installing 64bit os just for one command?18:08
babyswizzgordonjcp, the system memory is 4gband i assigned 1gb to the guest18:09
Calinouif your CPU is from > 2005 64 bit is ALWAYS supported18:09
SysaxedCalinou, I understand, but I do not want to reinstall.18:09
babyswizzgordonjcp, my system doesnot support virtualization18:09
SysaxedCalinou, that's why I'm asking if there's any alternative command that can take care of bigger range of dates18:09
llutzCalinou: wrong, i.e. intel atom18:10
OerHeksCalinou, not always, there are atoms 32 bit and arm18:10
ActionParsnipOerHeks: http://ark.intel.com/products/59683/Intel-Atom-Processor-D2700-(1M-Cache-2_13-GHz)18:12
ActionParsnipOerHeks: 64bit :)18:12
voldyman_guys any alternatives to slock??18:12
ActionParsnipvoldyman_: what does it do?18:12
ActionParsnip!info slock18:12
ubottuPackage slock does not exist in quantal18:12
voldyman_when every i close my laptops lid and open it the screen stays blank. i have to go to tty1 and do killall slock18:13
ActionParsnipvoldyman_: what make and model system?18:13
ActionParsnipvoldyman_: you still haven't answered my first question18:14
ceborhi i have written my own bashrc: does anybody know why the promt dont change $ -> # ??  ( .bashrc: https://gist.github.com/4089540 )18:14
voldyman_ActionParsnip, dell inspirion. using Xubuntu 12.0418:14
ceborwhen i change to root18:14
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ActionParsnipcebor: what is the output of:   echo $PS118:14
zykotick9llutz: my atom is 64bit, and i do run it as such - although it's a waste with only 1GB of memory ;)18:14
OerHeksActionParsnip, FYI > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Atom see D2500 nov 201118:14
Calinoullutz: my atom supports 64 bit...18:14
CalinouSysaxed: there is none18:15
llutzzykotick9: sure but not all atoms are 64bit18:15
voldyman_ActionParsnip, it turns the screen blank18:15
zykotick9llutz: most aren't, i'd think18:15
CorvusCoraxHi. I am having issues getting the ubuntu live-dvd to boot - likely because of issues with the dvd drive. is there a way to do a "network installation" with a minimal cd or something like that?18:15
llutzcebor: end your PS1 with "\$"18:15
CorvusCoraxor something like debootstrap?18:15
ActionParsnipvoldyman_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell_Inspiron   Dell inspiron is HUNDREDS of models, which is yours?18:16
ceborActionParsnip: on root: $: command not found18:16
mrfreehi all18:16
dooml0rdhi, i have ubuntu 12.10 installed and its running fallback gnome desktop; How can18:16
dooml0rdhow can i launch ubuntu-one,18:16
voldyman_ActionParsnip, 1525 n series18:16
ActionParsnipcebor: run it as your user, what is output?18:16
Calinoudooml0rd: from terminal18:16
dooml0rdi've tried ubuntuone-launch from a terminal and it doesn't work18:16
gordonjcpbabyswizz: if your system doesn't support virtualisation, anything running in the guest will be painfully slow no matter what you run18:16
cebori got: PS1$18:17
dooml0rdor rather its now showing anything... is it a demon in the back ground and i just need to ask for UI ?18:17
mrfreehi all. just after the upgrade to 12.10 my ubuntu stops working... only a black screen, no splash, nothing18:17
ActionParsnipcebor: echo $PS1     not:  echo PS1$18:17
mrfreebut the livecd works well18:17
Calinou(anyway) my xubuntu 12.10 system just froze and i had to hard reset, why, and where can i report this?18:17
ActionParsnipmrfree: what video chip do you use?18:17
cebor\[\e]0;\u@\h: \w\a\]\[\e[01;30m\]\A \[\e[01;32m\]\u $(_prompt_virtualenv)\[\e[01;34m\]\w\n\[\e[01;31m\]$\[\e[00m\18:17
ActionParsnip!bug | Calinou18:17
ubottuCalinou: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.18:17
mrfreeActionParsnip: intel18:17
ActionParsnipmrfree: add the boot option:  nomodeset18:18
holsteinCalinou: i would try and sort out why it crashed... try tty... check some logs..18:18
n3lthonhi, which are the default options for chmod on users folder in ubuntu 12.10, "chmod 750"?18:18
plasmoliseis there any way to create a psyBNC in my xubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal18:18
ActionParsnipcebor: and the output of:  lsb_release -sc18:18
geecathi which partition to use ext 2 or ext3 or ext4 while installing ubuntu along with win8 and why?18:18
plasmolise?18:18
ceborquantal :D18:19
ActionParsnipgeecat: the default is Ext4 by default18:19
voldyman_ActionParsnip, any ideas??18:19
mrfreeActionParsnip: it seems to work... so why the livecd works???18:19
ActionParsnipmrfree: no idea, try getting full updates18:19
dooml0rdIs it only possible to launch the ubuntuone ui within unity perhaps18:20
ActionParsnipvoldyman_: let me search18:20
geecatActionParsnip, i just installed ubuntu 12.10  along with win8 and selected ext2 now i am getting access denied warning while starting and my cd drive is not working now18:20
jribn3lthon: 755 is default18:20
voldyman_ActionParsnip, the only mention of a problem similar to mine is at http://omeganfire.deviantart.com/art/My-Laptop-s-Awesome-WM-Theme-211607943   check the comments18:20
ActionParsnipgeecat: you can use ext2 if you desire18:21
geecatActionParsnip, i used ext2 , now my cd drive is not working and alos i am not able to boot in ubunut getting access denied warning18:21
zykotick9ActionParsnip: unless it's an ssd drive ext2 is a questionable choice.  no journalling.18:22
geecat*ubuntu18:22
llutzcebor: check your  "$(_prompt_virtualenv)", does it exist, what is the output18:22
ActionParsnipvoldyman_: oh, is it a swithable video chip?18:22
ceborno it does not exists curently18:22
cebor+r18:22
ActionParsnipzykotick9: yes, so the wear will be less due to no journal updates18:22
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voldyman_ActionParsnip, no idea. i never has this issue before. it just started a few days ago when i stopped using xscreensaver18:22
zykotick9ActionParsnip: true.  which is good for ssd drives, but you get a less stable filesystem...18:23
ActionParsnipvoldyman_: if you run:   lspci | grep -i vga    do you see an Intel and an Nvidia GPU?18:23
n3lthonjrib: so www-data user for apache can read and execute a folder in /home/user/subfolder ?18:23
ActionParsnipzykotick9: true but it can be used :)18:23
voldyman_ActionParsnip, intel18:23
zykotick9ActionParsnip: you need "lspci -v | grep -i vga" to see both hybrid cards!  voldyman_18:23
ActionParsnipvoldyman_: only intel?18:23
voldyman_00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) (rev 0c)18:24
voldyman_ActionParsnip, ^18:24
jribn3lthon: right18:24
ActionParsnipvoldyman_: does zykotick9's command give anything different18:24
voldyman_ActionParsnip, that is the output of zykotick9 's commad18:25
guruguylo all...18:25
guruguyi'm in uuid hell! have setup an mdadm raid array. 4 hdds: /dev/sd[a-d]1 w/ uuid's of a001, b001, c001, d001; comprise the array /dev/md1 (root). mdadm reports the uuid for /dev/md1 as 1111. the FS_UUID reported by grub-probe AND the uuid shown in /dev/disk/by-uuid is 3456. between these uuid's: the array's (1111), and the fs's (3456). which should be used in: fstab? mdadm.conf? grub.cfg? and specific to grub(2) - if BOTH of these uuid18:25
n3lthonjrib: thanks18:25
guruguywhich is used where?? my setup DOES use a sep. /boot part. (md0) - so same Q's for that.18:26
galacHello18:28
wmhi18:29
wmcan someone tell me if i can start a distro update from 12.04 to 12.10 from a mounted disc in 12.04?18:29
ActionParsnipvoldyman_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/101395818:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 966744 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu Quantal) "duplicate for #1013958 [i965] Resume from suspend leaves me with black screen or a screen of the desktop before it suspended. Compiz hung in intel_update_renderbuffers() from intel_prepare_render() from brw_draw_prims()" [Critical,Fix released]18:29
herculesmorsexchat indicator doesn't work with ubuntu 12.1018:29
voldyman_ActionParsnip, first of all i am not using unity, second every thing works great until i close the lid. if from my power manager i choose Do Nothing when the lid is closed, i have no problems18:31
ActionParsnipvoldyman_: it seems to be a known issue. I suggest you either report a big, or add to say that it also affects you18:31
ActionParsnipvoldyman_: http://www.linuxine.com/story/solved-inspiron-1525-unable-suspend-or-hibernate-ubuntu-100418:32
ceborActionParsnip, llutz : got it :)  "" -> ''18:33
voldyman_ActionParsnip, it does NOT crash. i can suspend and hibernate easily. i can reproduce the problem by executing slock18:33
gusta715What are the latest drivers for nvidia?18:33
Calinou<holstein> Calinou: i would try and sort out why it crashed... try tty... check some logs..18:34
Calinoucouldn't even switch ttys18:34
Calinoueverything froze18:34
Calinousound stopped playing, etc18:34
holsteinCalinou: i would look at the graphics driver.. hardware.. anything you do to help narrow it down..18:34
Calinounot an hardware issue, never happened on windows18:35
holsteindid you recently upgrade? have you tried a live CD? a memory test... fsck18:35
holsteinCalinou: it could be a hardware support issue.. the fact that windows runs ok tells you the hardware is likely not the issue18:36
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MrMaDSeNhi18:39
toahi MrMaDSeN18:39
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MrMaDSeNafter creating a user with useradd does the .bash need to be in home folder?18:39
bekksMrMaDSeN: .bash is no usable file nor directory name.18:40
bekksMrMaDSeN: Use .bashrc as file name :)18:40
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Calinouholstein: graphics issue is VERY likely as I was playing a game when that happened18:41
Calinoui reported the bug btw18:41
MrMaDSeNthnx.. just wanted to know if its needed i.e. when making a new home folder for a website user...18:41
Calinouthe nvidia drivers are far from stable :)18:41
MrMaDSeNI guess that means I can delete so users dont watch it if they ftp in18:41
holsteinCalinou: it can be challenging since we are not allowed to do much with them.. might want to consider letting nvidia know18:41
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arcaicoHello. I'm looking for a good software for saving demos on Ubuntu 12.04... Can someone help-me?18:43
bazhangarcaico, screencasts?18:44
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carekesshey guys where can i get skype 4.1 64-bit version?18:45
gandhijee_how can i add a menu item to the unity shell app drop down thing?18:45
geecatgandhijee_, what is the problem you are facing?18:47
Calinoualso i have an issue with mouse, mouse accel setting is constantly being reset18:48
SysaxedCalinou, "<Calinou> Sysaxed: there is none" well, looks like all I have to do is use any programming language. For example in Java these dates are handled correctly.18:49
ToaIs there a Chinese #ubuntu?  I can't find the channel.18:50
Toacarekess, www.skype.com has it I believe18:50
bazhangToa, #ubuntu-cn18:50
carekesstrying that..18:50
carekesshttp://www.skype.com/intl/en/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/downloading.ubuntu64 ... i open this and it starts the download for 32-bit version...any1 else seen this problem ?18:51
carekessor did i miss smtn18:52
jribcarekess: are you sure they have a 64bit version?18:52
Toabazhang, Thanks18:52
carekessthere should be a 64-bit version i think18:53
jrib!skype | carekess18:53
ubottucarekess: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga18:53
jribcarekess: if they don't have one, the 32bit should work fine with multi-arch18:53
ToaPidgin has voice/video chat, too18:53
carekessyeah but software center cant install it :)18:54
jribcarekess: what ubuntu version?18:54
carekess12.10 64-bit18:54
jribcarekess: output of: dpkg --print-foreign-architectures18:55
carekessjrib: nothing comes out18:55
jribcarekess: wait, is skype no longer in the partner repos (I'm reading ubottu's wiki link)18:55
carekessnope apt-get cant install it18:56
jribcarekess: did you enable the partner repository?18:56
carekesssec18:56
jribcarekess: never mind, I just checked and I don't see a quantal package there.  Would you like to enable multi-arch?18:57
carekessi just want to install skype, i guess yes18:57
jribcarekess: let me double check the skype site for you before we do so then.18:57
bazhang!info skype partner18:58
ubottuskype (source: skype): client for Skype VOIP and instant messaging service. In component main, is extra. Version 4.0.0.8-0oneiric1 (partner), package size 14 kB, installed size 64 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)18:58
carekessyeah i think the skype site the same file if i click on the 32-bit version or the multi-arch version18:58
bazhangjrib, ^18:58
jribbazhang: so that's available on quantal?18:58
bazhangjrib, thats odd, that it would say oneiric18:59
battlesheepupdated nvidia driver now X wont start, says kernel has module for 304 but driver is 310, how do i fix this?19:00
FrostyXhi. on czech wiki i found article about testing mic. I wanna try it on my gentoo but i really dont know what is name of this app http://wiki.ubuntu.cz/_detail/zaznamnik-zvuku.png?id=test_mikrofonu . can you tell me pls ?19:00
carekessbrb19:01
jribcarekess: yeah, you should be able to use the partner repository, just follow the wiki instructions19:01
jribbazhang: weird... hope they keep up with security fixes :x19:01
CraksyHi all.. I'm having some issues installing Ubuntu 12.10 to my PC. I get the error "microcode: failed to load file amd-ucode/microcode_amd.bin" 3 times, followed by a black screen. are there any pros around, who can help me? :)19:02
jribcarekess: if you prefer to install the version from skype, you can do that with multi-arch19:02
trismbattlesheep: did you reboot after updating the nvidia driver?19:04
battlesheepyes19:04
angel_jhi ... how can i handle users from a central server to few pc's running ubuntu 10.04 ?19:04
battlesheepit drops me a login shell19:04
trismbattlesheep: can you pastebin: dkms status;19:04
battlesheepi tried apt-get update nvidia-current19:04
battlesheepok19:04
morphiascan someone help me with applying the information on http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/packaging-new-software.html to packaging my own program into a package?19:05
he2my grub does not show any list at boot up19:05
he2what could be the problem19:06
battlesheepnvidia-current, 295.40, 3.2.0-32-generic, x86_64: installed19:06
jribmorphias: you need to ask a specific question, but #ubuntu-packaging is more appropriate19:06
morphiasoh ok.  ill hop overthere19:06
battlesheepnvidia-current-updates, 304.33 etc19:06
angel_he2 ... you need to press left shift at boot time to show the grub list19:06
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battlesheepnvidia-exeperimental 304.4819:06
angel_and keep it pressed till it shows ... :)19:06
CraksyDoes anyone know why i get the "microcode: failed to load file amd-ucode/microcode_amd.bin" when i try to install ubuntu? what does this error mean?19:06
trismbattlesheep: run: sudo apt-get purge ; on all the versions you don't want, then: sudo apt-get install --reinstall the version you want19:07
trismbattlesheep: there is probably some conflict in having several installed19:07
he2angel_, can i change it to show the list by default?19:07
carekessjrib: tnx19:08
trismbattlesheep: you probably want nvidia-current-updates if you aren't sure, since the nvidia-current version was kind of broken, at least on my system19:08
trismbattlesheep: (in 12.04)19:09
battlesheepthanks trism! it worked!19:09
battlesheepmy x now starts on its own19:09
trismbattlesheep: excellent19:09
battlesheepthank you very much19:10
angel_hi ... how can i handle users from a central server to few pc's running ubuntu 10.04 ?19:10
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Craksyguys? any idea what is wrong? spent 2 days trying to install this now19:11
Anon_Linuxae pessoal19:12
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Rodrigo_Linuxae pessoal19:12
Rodrigo_Linuxtudo bem19:12
Craksyany pros around? got some issues with installation here19:13
cebordoes any body know why the cmd "who am i" gives me ":0.0"   as connection ???  and not ":0" this only happens when i start mei terminal via "strg+alt+t" ???19:15
ceborits confusing me...19:15
keith__are the mactel-support repos down?19:16
DaemonicApathyCraksy: Specifically?19:16
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Sazpaimonlooks like ntfs-3g sadly does not convert linux symbolic links into windows symbolic links :(19:16
Zupermanhello, all. I have problem... I messed up with xrandr and somewhere along the process, my system fonts become too small... i think 6px... Is there a way to revert it back???19:17
graftdoes xrandr change fonts?19:17
Zupermanim using lubuntu btw19:17
Zupermani dont know...19:18
grafti don't think it does19:18
Sazpaimonit converts them, strangely, into interix links19:18
DaemonicApathyZuperman, have you tried relogging, or is the change persistent?19:18
Sazpaimonthat's strange19:18
CraksyDaemonicApathy: i get "microcode: failed to load file amd-ucode/microcode_amd.bin" after a while, and then a black screen19:18
graftZuperman: i'd check your font config for LXDE, however that's done19:18
ZupermanDaemonicApathy:19:19
Zupermani havent19:19
Zupermani will relog now19:19
Zupermangood idea :)19:19
DaemonicApathyCraksy: http://ubuntu.5.n6.nabble.com/AMD-microcode-updates-td362853.html seems to hold the solution (I can't test it, so let me know.)19:20
Overand(I'm a fairly advanced user - ubuntu, debian, arch, RHEL, etc.)  I'm looking to have an *ubuntu system with XFCE, Gnome, and possibly KDE and LXDE.  Which version should I install first?  Should I start with ubuntu, then install the xubuntu-desktop package or whatever's current?19:20
humehi, when running apt-get update on a 12.04 machine, I get an error - GPG signatures are invalid. What do I do?19:20
yourfriendisaacHow do I change the default file manager to Thunar?19:21
DaemonicApathyhume, can you paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com ?19:22
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babyswizzplease does ubuntu default desktop have any advange over lxde which is lighter19:22
DaemonicApathybabyswizz: lxde is lighter than Unity.19:22
Guest75430Overand: I would install the stadard base system and then install the other DE's ontop of that, however there might be good reasons to start with one of the other ubuntu based distro and you would have to look at it on a a case by case basis.19:23
OverandGuest75430: ala xubuntu or such? or one of the more 'out there' ones ala mint?19:23
babyswizzDaemonicApathy, does unity have any advantage over lighter desktop?19:24
Guest75430depends what you want, one of the closer distros kbuntu or xubuntu will probably cause less pain than some thing for away like mint19:24
mah454Hello19:24
CraksyDaemonicApathy: i get the error during installation.. How am i supposed to install the missing module/ucode/whatever it is complaining about?19:24
mah454How can install "Loard Of Ultima" on ubuntu ?19:24
DaemonicApathybabyswizz: Some people prefer how everything is laid out, how the Dash helps with searches, etc. It's all personal preference.19:24
Guest75430Overand: why do you want to install lots of DE's on the same machine?19:24
mah454I can not find it in repository !19:24
yourfriendisaacbabyswizz: the advantage is a fuller experience. In terms of compatibility, will depend on your system. you cant always try a new desktop by going to synaptic and using which ever one you want there are several available19:25
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yourfriendisaacsorry supposed to say "can try"19:25
bekksmah454: Thata browser game. You dont need to install something.19:25
Guest75430Overand: Why not use VM's to install the base version of each distro instaed, or do a very minimal install and just install the one you will use.19:25
yourfriendisaacHow do I change the default file manager to Thunar?19:26
rt_91i forgot my password of the irc19:27
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DaemonicApathyCraksy: I assume you create /lib/firmware/amd-ucode/microcode_amd.bin in the live session, but this isn't my area...19:27
mah454bekks: so , what is this ? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/05/ea-games-arrive-in-the-ubuntu-software-center19:27
rt_91can anyone help me to reset it19:27
mah454bekks: i need install it ?19:27
zykotick9rt_91: ask in #freenode for assistance19:27
bekksmah454: No...? Games for being played in the browser are not to be installed. Think of the zillion games on facebook.19:27
rt_91thanks19:27
iwafflesSo I have a user who is added to a group, but for some reason cannot modify any files owned by that group, permissions seem to be set correctly, too. Any suggestions?19:27
rt_91join #freenode19:28
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ekhaat 19:28
CraksyDaemonicApathy: i know how to burn a disc, and how to choose the boot option... that's pretty much it. I had kinda hoped that would be enough to get linux installed... Guess I'll try the forums then.19:28
yourfriendisaacDoes anyone know how to change the default file manager? They dumbed down nautilus and it doesn't do all it used to do.19:29
Cesnimdagood evening19:29
DaemonicApathyyourfriendisaac: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-replace-nautilus-with-pcman-file-manager-in-ubuntu.html replace pcman with your FM of choice.19:30
yourfriendisaacDaemonicApathy: Thanks19:31
jribyourfriendisaac: what do you need to do in nautilus out of curiosity?19:31
matthewh3right I've just got a Ubuntu VPS and following this guide - http://docs.elgg.org/wiki/Install_Ubuntu - but :~# sudo a2enmod rewrite19:32
matthewh3sudo: a2enmod: command not found19:32
jribmatthewh3: did you install apache?19:32
matthewh3yes I followed the guide19:32
babyswizzplease is it possible to make lxde lighter?19:32
jribmatthewh3: pastebin the output of « apt-cache policy apache2 »19:32
jribmatthewh3: also don't use sudo if you're already root...19:33
matthewh3what command is that?  sorry for being a newb I'm learning :P19:33
yourfriendisaacjrib: nautilus does not find open all the program choices anymore in open with and there is no way to even browse for a different one19:33
jribmatthewh3: apt-cache just returns the availability of a package19:33
jrib!pastebin | matthewh319:33
ubottumatthewh3: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:33
MTughan_webI have a file with a dd dump of an NTFS partition (just the partition, not the whole disk) that I'd like to mount on Ubuntu 12.04. Unfortunately, "mount -o loop image.ntfs /media/NTFS" is giving me a couple error messages, such as "NTFS signature is missing" and "The device '/dev/loop0' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS." Anyone know how I can do this?19:34
ekhaatCraksy:  Burning the cd and booting from it might be the most difficult part of installing. I'd go with ubuntu/unity.19:34
MTughan_webI've tried various offset values too, such as 32256 (63 * 512) and 1048576 (2048 * 512), but neither work because there's no partition table here.19:35
matthewh3http://paste.ubuntu.com/1363356/ don't think apache installed????19:35
jribmatthewh3: this isn't the command I assked about.  But do « apt-get update && apt-get install apache2 » and pastebin that now19:36
matthewh3yes thats working thanks :D19:37
Derpnntp19:38
Derpta ai €19:38
jahaHow can I get my ssh identity to persist across reboots so I dont have to ssh-add every login in Ubuntu 12.04, would prefer a non GUI option as im running LXDE19:38
chigginsHow would I be able to install a package from a ppa, but a older version of the same package(and name) exists in the main repos?19:40
matthewh3I'm installing elgg do I need to put it in apache folder ? - http://docs.elgg.org/wiki/Installation19:40
xanguachiggins: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade19:40
Craksyekhaat: i got it burned, and it boots alright. I even figured out how to fix a problem, by setting "nomodeset"... I just need to know what to do about the error "microcode: failed to load file amd-ucode/microcode_amd.bin"... any ideas?19:41
chigginsxangua: just did that, still got the older version19:42
chigginsit's uwsgi, if it matters19:42
ekhaatCraksy:  Oh, didn't se that part, my bad19:42
matthewh3help I'm installing elgg - http://docs.elgg.org/wiki/Installation - do I need to put it in Apache???????19:42
Craksyekhaat: btw. i get this error both for the "try ubuntu without installing" and the "install ubuntu" options19:42
ekhaatCraksy:  Have you tried different distros with same result?19:43
xanguachiggins: i'd matter more if you say what ubuntu version do you use, what ppa are you using, what program version do you have, what version do you want..you know ;)19:43
Craksyekhaat: well, i tried both the 32 and 64 bit versions with the same result. I haven't tried other distros yet. I'm running out of empty disks though.19:45
chigginsxangua: ubuntu 12.04.1. ppa:malept/uwsgi. I have uWSGI 1.0.3-debian, I want 1.2.319:45
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xanguachiggins: using a ppa that only has packages for lucid¿ https://launchpad.net/~malept/+archive/uwsgi :/19:47
xanguaand neither the version you want :P19:47
chigginsxangua: boo :(19:47
chigginsGuess I'm gonna have to just build from source?19:47
babyswizzplease is it possible to make lxde lighter?19:48
gordonjcpbabyswizz: nope19:48
dr_willisrun just a window manager19:48
babyswizzok19:48
gordonjcpbabyswizz: you already said, you're running in a VM on a host machine that doesn't support virtualisation19:48
dr_willislubuntu runs fine in vbox here on my windows machine19:48
gordonjcpbabyswizz: it will be incredibly slow19:48
babyswizzgordonjcp, yes19:48
dr_willisgee how old is that machine? ;)19:48
gordonjcpbabyswizz: there is nothing you can do about this19:48
toaexcept run it natively19:49
gordonjcpbabyswizz: even running a bare console-only system, it will be incredibly slow19:49
gordonjcpbabyswizz: whatever the spec you're running the host OS on, divide the clock speed by 20 to get the approximate speed of the VM guest19:49
babyswizzgordonjcp, i just switched to lxde and the performance has improved greatly19:49
robbiein unity launcher there are disk icons. how can I tell which icon belongs to what device?19:50
robbieI think what I have is a device that is not in fstab ...19:50
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yourfriendisaacbabyswzz: try installing "mate" which is a branch of gnome2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MATE_%28desktop_environment%2919:51
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dr_willis lightest would be just a window manager like openbox or jwm19:53
gordonjcpdr_willis: that won't make any difference19:53
Galvatrongordonjcp: What's the problem?19:54
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babyswizzdr_willis, i was told lxde comes with openbox has its default window manager19:55
dr_willisor course just a single web browser will be using more resources then the desktops ;)19:55
dr_willisbabyswizz:  running JUST openbox would use less resouces.. but it depends on what you are doing with the vm.  Running a browser will be using like 10x the resources your window manager is..19:56
dr_willisif you got a low end system.. theres no magic to make it faster.19:56
madjoeHi! I have two Drupal sites: one is the main one, the old one build in D5, and another is the main addition made in D7 (with Ubercart)... what's the easiest way of passing the form from D5 to the UC module on D7 site (on a subdomain)? Would something like the module Prepopulate do the trick?19:59
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Kartgalvatron: when bot  (ignore)20:06
varunpriolkari need help with dd count20:09
varunpriolkarneed to backup something without backing up unallocated space20:09
varunpriolkarhow do i determine count?20:09
blacknesscreating a img?20:09
varunpriolkaryes20:09
blacknesshm, ive always used tar for a complete backup..20:09
blacknessmoment20:10
rymate1234hey20:10
varunpriolkarhey rymate1234!20:10
varunpriolkarhere are the partitions i want to use:20:10
varunpriolkar/dev/sdb2        3533228  2497024    856680  75% /media/berryboot20:10
varunpriolkar/dev/sdb1          64366    28456     35910  45% /media/05B4-5B0920:10
varunpriolkartotal size: 8068792320 bytes (8.1 GB)20:10
blacknessso use tar to create a archive of it.20:10
Kartvarunpriolkar: please paste bin for content related stuff20:10
blacknessit will do whats on the slice20:11
Kartmuch easier to view from there20:11
varunpriolkarokay Kart!20:11
mrfreeaaarrrggg is seems to be a very bad regression https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=84574520:11
varunpriolkarwell i need to redistribute it as an image..20:11
ubottubugzilla.redhat.com bug 845745 in xorg-x11-drv-ati "kernel version 3.5.0-2 hangs at boot with modesetting: "conflicting fb hw usage radeondrmfb vs VESA VGA - removing generic driver"" [Unspecified,New]20:11
varunpriolkarhttp://pastebin.com/HW7aTzfZ20:13
bekksvarunpriolkar: So what are you trying to do?20:13
Zupermanhello, need help. running lubuntu 11.10, and dont have xorg.conf (empty). when i try to reconfigure it, i get error message with line: number of detected screens does not match number of detected devices. My card is old, ati 9000 all in wonder20:13
varunpriolkarbekks: create an image for raspberry pi20:13
Zupermancan someone help me???20:14
varunpriolkari need a way to determine "count" for dd20:14
bekksvarunpriolkar: Because...? Dont you want to image the whole partitions?20:14
varunpriolkarbekks: i do.. but i dont want the unpartitioned space.. i want dd to read only the first x blocks20:15
bekksvarunpriolkar: Everything that can be seen in your paste is partitioned.20:15
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varunpriolkarbekks: nah.. those are just the mounted partitions..20:16
mrfreeis it possible to replace grub2 with something other?20:16
chad_can someone help me understand what I would have to do to enable apt-get to install updates when I can SSH into the box but cannot get at my repos through the firewall?20:16
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chad_I know it should be possible...20:17
bekksvarunpriolkar: Then image then - after unmounting them. You'll have no unpartitioned space in your image.20:17
Jordan_Umrfree: Why do you want to?20:19
DDAZZAI'm getting this error when doing an update. How can I fix it? http://pastebin.com/VbZUNC9R20:20
martianHey folks, if I set a folder to be owned by the X group, how can I make it so all files or folders created within it in the future retain that group owner as well?20:21
Bier_does anyone know why i cant start xbmc full screen on my second monitor20:21
varunpriolkarbekks: well i dont think thatll work.. from what i have seen on other forums..20:21
bekksvarunpriolkar: All you need in addition is an image of the MBR, too. So basically sdb1, sdb2 and the first 512 bytes of sdb,20:22
mrfreeJordan_U: https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/8/21/3620:23
mrfreeubuntu 12.10 doesn't work on my latitude intel i91520:23
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varunpriolkarbekks: correct...20:23
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mrfreeJordan_U: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=84574520:24
ubottubugzilla.redhat.com bug 845745 in xorg-x11-drv-ati "kernel version 3.5.0-2 hangs at boot with modesetting: "conflicting fb hw usage radeondrmfb vs VESA VGA - removing generic driver"" [Unspecified,New]20:24
Jordan_Umrfree: And what makes you think that switching to a different bootloader is required to fix this kernel bug?20:25
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cronusbekks, does the first partition start at sector 1?20:27
Kartagishow can I see ubottu's messageparser settings?20:27
bekkscronus: Not necessarilly.20:28
Kartagisot though20:28
cronusbekks, maybe 512 isn't the correct value then20:28
leti0377ciao20:29
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Teduardodoes anyone know where upstart gets it's settings for the command start mysql/stop mysql?20:29
TeduardoI did update-rc.d mysql remove20:30
Teduardoand if i type start mysql it still tries to start it20:30
dr_willisTeduardo:  upstart uses servicename.conf files in /etc/init/20:30
dr_willisim not sure that update-rc.d command works with services that are handled totally by upstart20:30
genii-aroundTeduardo: "start servicename" is upstart, "service servicename start" is sysvinit20:30
leti0377!list20:30
ubottuleti0377: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».20:30
dr_willisits a vestage from the old sysv days20:31
genii-aroundTeduardo: update-rc.d is sysvinit20:31
dr_willisleti0377:  why do you feel the need to do a !list in a support channel?20:31
TeduardoSo is /etc/init/mysql.conf the config file for upstart or for sysvinit?20:32
dr_willisupstart uses /etc/init20:32
fulminatorhello, can someone help me with a c++ issue?20:33
mrfreeJordan_U: it seems related with grub2 and kernel3.5... 12.10 from livecd works20:33
Teduardois there a way to just disable upstart for mysql?20:33
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dr_willisrename the whatever.conf to whatever.dontrun  ;)20:34
dr_willisbut whats the actual problem?20:34
dr_willisi dont see why you are doing all this song and dance. ;)20:34
Teduardobecause i replaced mysql 5.5 with 5.6.8rc20:34
Teduardoand upstart isn't using the values from /etc/mysql/my.cnf20:35
Jordan_Umrfree: Have you tried uncommenting "GRUB_TERMINAL=console" in /etc/default/grub and re-running update-grub (as said in that bug report's comments)? If you can't boot at all, you can either run update-grub from a chroot from the LiveCD, or you can temporarily switch to console mode in grub by pressing 'c' to get to the grub menu and running "terminal_output console", then press escape to return to the menu.20:35
Teduardolike it should be20:35
dr_willisupstat just starts the service.. thats nothing to do with what config file mysql is using for MySwls settings...20:35
Jordan_Umrfree: s/to get to the grub menu/to get to the grub shell/20:35
mrfreeJordan_U: I've tried without success20:35
fulminatorhello, can someone help me with a c++ issue?20:35
Jordan_Umrfree: What have you tried exactly?20:36
dr_willisUnless you are thinking upstart is somehow telling it to use some other config20:36
dr_willisthen that upstart.conf file in /etc/init may show what its launching20:36
Jordan_Umrfree: Could you pastebin your /etc/default/grub and your /boot/grub/grub.cfg?20:36
dr_willishttp://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/  best docs for upstart ive found,20:36
wsirc_6776748quick question.. not ubuntu-related: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbdqc2pusZ1rqfksw.gif is this guy from a TV show or a movie?20:36
wsirc_6776748quick question.. not ubuntu-related: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbdqc2pusZ1rqfksw.gif is this guy from a TV show or a movie?20:37
Kartagissorry for ot, but who can help me about ubottu?20:37
wsirc_6776748quick question.. not ubuntu-related: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbdqc2pusZ1rqfksw.gif is this guy from a TV show or a movie?20:37
mrfreeJordan_U: I've added GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console" in the /etc/default/grub; update-grub; cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | grep console == > terminal_output consoleonsole  ==>20:37
wsirc_6776748quick question.. not ubuntu-related: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbdqc2pusZ1rqfksw.gif is this guy from a TV show or a movie?20:37
mrfreeJordan_U: reboot and it doesn't work20:37
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FloodBot1wsirc_6776748: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:37
gusta715Why is my kernel called amd64 when I don't have any hardware from AMD?20:38
mrfreeJordan_U: I can otherwise try downgrading kernel to 3.420:38
kunjigusta715: because it's 64 bit20:38
gusta715Or, the distribution maybe.20:38
gusta715kukuri: Does AMD mean 64-bit? o_O20:38
dr_willisgusta715:  becasue amd had 64bit hardware first20:38
dr_willisintel licensed it from them20:39
dr_willisor somting like that20:39
srj001anyone know how to create a complete installation of ubuntu off of one's existing installation?20:40
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kunjigusta715: AMD came up with the 64 bit standard that most 64 bit hardware is based on, including that which Intel makes.  Hence they are said to be the AMD64 architecture machines.  As most 32 bit machines are Intel x86, which includes the common i386 among others20:41
dr_willissrj001:  you want an identical clone?20:41
Teduardosoon amd wont exist and it wont matter20:41
kunjiTeduardo: unlikely, if the cease to exist Intel might get broken up in some anti-trust litigation.20:41
kunji*they20:41
bulletrulzalt+f4 changes the color of ur text20:42
kunjibulletrulz: wrong place to troll20:42
bulletrulzlol20:42
bulletrulzok sorry xD20:42
kunji:P20:42
gordonjcp!ops | bulletrulz20:42
gusta715bulletrulz: How do I exit my IRC client?20:42
ubottubulletrulz: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang, jussi, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler or Jordan_U!20:42
Priceybulletrulz: This channel's for support, lets not trick users :)20:43
WeThePeoplehi20:43
gusta715Can't they rename it to x64? That's more neutral. Or x86-64.20:44
gusta715Seeing amd64 everywhere is strange.20:44
dr_willisits been amd64 for years..20:45
dr_willisseeing it change would be stranger20:45
dr_willisand yes some disrto makers do use other names20:45
kunjigusta715: Too late now.  x86-64 exists and is a different standard Intel came up with afterwards, it didn't do so well.  Note though that Intel does the same thing, the i in i386 etc.. is for Intel.20:45
gusta715The instruction set is Intel's innovation. So that would make sense.20:46
dr_willisthe 64bit instruction set is amds20:46
whoeverhi all, how do i instll wxpytron on 12.04 there doesn't seem to be a package for it or instructions that work i have tried http://onlyopen.wordpress.com/2012/07/04/installing-wxwidgets-and-wxpython-on-ubuntu-or-debian-7-2/20:46
gusta715"Intel 64 is Intel's implementation of x86-64. It is used in newer versions of Pentium 4, Celeron D, Xeon and Pentium Dual-Core processors, the Atom D510, N450, N550, N2600 and N2800 and in all versions of the Pentium Extreme Edition, Core 2, Core i7, Core i5, and Core i3 processors."20:46
dr_willisnot really a ubuntu support topic any more...20:47
kunjigusta715: Hmm, where is that quoted from?20:47
ekhaatis this channel going to be a discussion on processors?20:47
gusta715kunji: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd6420:47
kunjiThan why are you asking us :P, also we should probably move to #hardware or some such if we want to continue the conversation.20:48
Priceywhoever: "apt-cache search wx"20:48
Priceywhoever: Then just "apt-get install <packagename>" as appropriate. It looks like its all in the standard repositories.20:48
Priceywhoever: Unless you know what you're doing, adding random repositories is a bad idea.20:49
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WeThePeoplehow do i install b43 using modprobe for my wireless device?20:49
WeThePeopleits a cm20:50
WeThePeoplebcm20:50
bekksWeThePeople: sudo modprobe b4320:50
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WeThePeoplebekks, ok did that, the device doesnt see any wireless connections in network manager20:51
WeThePeopledo i need to restart20:52
grendlhelp20:57
varunpriolkarbekks: thanks man! problem solved20:57
k1l_!ask | grendl20:57
ubottugrendl: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:57
mag]]!patience20:58
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/20:58
gusta715Also, people won't answer if they're feeling full of themselves.20:59
whoeveris thre a way to install wxpython in ubuntu 12.04 or do i have to do it in windows20:59
dr_willispython-wxversion - wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (wxPython version selector)21:00
dr_willispythoncard-doc - wxPython-based GUI construction framework (documentation and samples)21:00
mag]]pip search wxpython21:00
dr_willisseems its in the repos21:00
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gordonjcpis there a volume control applet thing that works with ALSA?21:09
gordonjcpwhen I delete pulseaudio, the volume control stops working21:09
varunpriolkaralsamixer21:09
varunpriolkartype that in21:09
lollkoright21:09
gordonjcpvarunpriolkar: yes, I know about alsamixer21:10
gordonjcpthat isn't what I asked21:10
lollkouse sudo apt-get install alsamixer ;)21:10
gordonjcplollko: again, that's not what I asked21:10
lollkoohm21:10
lollkoi see and read again21:10
pledgezgordonjcp a plugin21:11
lollkodo you have plugin works with alsamixer?21:11
lollkosorry my english is not good...21:12
varunpriolkaryou need to make alsa default i guess21:12
WeThePeopleis there a command parallel to 'emerge' in gentoo for ubuntu21:12
bekksSure. "apt-get".21:12
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gordonjcpWeThePeople: What exactly are you trying to do?21:12
gordonjcpWeThePeople: normally you'd just install from apt21:12
WeThePeoplebekks, see this>>> http://wiki.sabayon.org/index.php?title=Using_the_new_b43_driver21:13
gordonjcpif you're trying to create a package from source, it's a bit more involved21:13
bekksWeThePeople: See this: ;)21:13
bekks!wifi > WeThePeople21:13
ubottuWeThePeople, please see my private message21:13
varunpriolkargordonjcp: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ifeY7XaQDnYJ:howto.blbosti.com/2010/04/ubuntu-make-alsa-default-instead-of-pulseaudio/+&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=in&client=ubuntu21:13
valdesAnyone knows if there're someway to load a custom DSDT in ubuntu 12.10 without recompile the kernel?21:18
bekksvaldes: Yes. No.21:19
bekksvaldes: You have to recompile the kernel for including the DSDT.21:19
valdes:( Thanks you21:21
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pledgezif ubuntu do not recognise my graphics driver on instillation . What should i do then ? Is my pc doomed ? How do i check if ubuntu will work with my hardware or not before i install the software ?21:23
disputinlivecd21:23
krababbelpledgez: use the live desktop21:23
pledgezoh livecd desktop thanks21:24
beecrofthhello21:24
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beecrofthhello21:24
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beecrofthim looking for ubuntu assistance21:24
cookie1980right channel :)21:25
GalvatronpledgezWhat's your GPU?21:25
pledgezATI Radeon HD 320021:26
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pledgezubuntu 12.10 dont like that card21:26
lollkopledgez: download oficial package on amd.com21:26
beecrofthi made a usb boot drive and want to install ubuntu to my hard drive so i dont need the usb anymore. I dont wont windows anymore. so i tried to install it, erasing everything on windows. it says installed when i click on the "install ubuntu" icon, but everytime i boot my computer its like starting fresh. no documents save, wireless settings are deleted etc. help?21:26
cookie1980beecrofth: just to be sure, did you disable boot from usb?21:28
beecrofthhow do i do that? bios menu?21:28
cookie1980beecrofth: the easiest way is to disconnect your usb drive ;)21:28
beecrofthdid that! when i boot it boots with just a solid purple screen. no ubuntu logo or anything21:29
designbybeckI see 10GB free, how do I expand my partition 1 to all that: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/4050921:29
Deividwho is using 12.04.1?21:29
cookie1980beecrofth: how long did you wait before restarting?21:30
beecroftha minute or so21:30
varunpriolkardesignbybeck: ull have to unount it before resizing21:30
varunpriolkar*unmount21:30
GalvatronDeivid: I do21:30
varunpriolkarpick up a gparted livecd21:31
designbybeckbut i'm booted into it varunpriolkar21:31
cookie1980beecrofth: that's enough time i guess21:31
designbybeckit is a VM21:31
DeividGalvatron21:31
designbybeckmaybe i can boot into another ISO and do it21:31
Deividare u using facebook feed on gwibber?21:31
varunpriolkardesignbybeck: boot into gparted livecd in the vm and do it..21:31
pledgezlollko i updated the drivers , still wont work21:31
GalvatronDeivid: No21:31
Deividok21:31
designbybeckok varunpriolkar thank you21:31
Deividtks21:32
beecrofth cookie1980: what should i do21:32
varunpriolkardesignbybeck: no problem :)21:32
cookie1980beecrofth: what hardware do you have?21:32
beecrofthHP Pavilion something21:33
beecrofthcookie1980: hp pavilion something21:33
cookie1980beecrofth: 32 bit processor? or something newer?21:33
pollitahola21:33
beecrofthcookie 1980: 32 bit!21:33
cookie1980what image did you copy to your usb drive?21:33
beecrofthcookie 1980: uhh. whatever the newest one is21:34
pledgezi also have Hp pc , seems ubuntu dont like HP21:34
DeividHP G6221:34
Deividubuntu 12.04 working awesome21:34
Deividso ubuntu DO LIKE hp21:34
cookie1980i installed a HP with debian today, quite similar21:35
Sazpaimonmy laptop has a keyboard with a programmable backlight color that's controlled by some userland application in windows21:35
beecrofthcookie 1980: whats debian? im a n000b21:35
cookie1980beecrofth: try to download a 32 bit image and start over with it21:35
Sazpaimonis there any such alternative for Linux? The laptop is an MSI GT78021:35
beecrofthcookie 1980: how do i do that?21:35
deadmundbeecrofth: Debian is the linux distribution that ubuntu is based on.21:36
lThess523I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 on an HP laptop. No problems.21:36
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cookie1980beecrofth: try this link http://www.ubuntu.com/pre-download?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=latest21:36
beecrofthcookie 1980: and download directly to computer? or do i need to create a usb boot drive again?21:37
invariantWhy is there no ffmpeg-dev package?21:37
gordonjcpSazpaimon: do you know what controls the LEDs?21:37
cookie1980beecrofth: you need to create a new one21:37
carl0s-I am adding an RDP server to the Ubuntu Single Sign On portal. The one that shows up on the login greeter. Where it says "Server URL", what am I supposed to put? I put the FQDN of my internet-accessible RDP server, but it gets changed to a http://server.domain.com/ URL. What gives?? I tried putting rdp://server.domain.com, but it still gets changed to http:// , and it doesn't work!21:37
user651299Hi everyone, is this the right channel for questions regarding firewalling ubuntu?21:38
gordonjcpuser651299: yes21:38
beecrofthcookie 1980: okay. whats the best software to use to make the boot drive? i tried one yesterday that didnt work (cant remember the name) and ended up using unetbootin21:38
gordonjcpuser651299: are you running a server on a machine directly connected to the Internet?21:38
user651299Gordonjcp: brilliant, well here goes...21:38
mspencerHi, my background has been replaced with a black background several times recently. Is this a bug or did I mess something up?21:38
cookie1980beecrofth: on what OS are you for the moment?21:39
gordonjcpmspencer: is your background on a network or removable drive?21:39
carl0s-Also, my desktop is still rubbish. Doesn't matter if I create a new user, I still have a "sticky" desktop. The desktop is crashed and any windows I drag across it get painted all over it. I end up where all four of my workspaces show what I had open on workspace1, but all those other workspaces are just "paintings" of workspace 1. I have to cycle through them all to find out which is my actual working browser, and which are just "stuck pa21:39
carl0s-intings" of my browser. LAME.21:39
beecrofthcookie 1980: ubuntu. i have another computer running Windows XPthough21:39
cookie1980beecrofth: are you on ubuntu live? i mean do you use a live cd right now?21:39
designbybeckvarunpriolkar: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/40511 I booted and i'm in gparted, just not sure what to do now?21:40
beecrofthcookie 1980: i am on ubuntu desktop running from a usb boot drive21:40
mspencergordonjcp: No, it the default background (version is 12.04).21:40
cookie1980beecrofth: ok, you should download it from your windows computer21:41
datasysno puedo instalar mi tarjeta broadcom en ubuntu  help! XD21:41
beecrofthcookie 1980: so your suggestion is to just make a brand new boot drive, then using the "Install Ubuntu" desktop icon try to reinstall it?21:42
cookie1980beecrofth: yes21:42
cookie1980beecrofth: you should even download a new image21:42
beecrofthcookie 1980: okay will do. and use unetbootin? is that what u used?21:42
mspencergordonjcp: I came across this question on Ask Ubuntu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/142156/disappearing-background21:43
cookie1980beecrofth: on http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ you will find a nice tool for windows21:43
datasys¿whatś the channel ubuntu in spanish?21:43
mspencergordonjcp: But I'm not sure what exactly causes my background to go black, and it never looks like an maximized app21:44
beecrofthcookie 1980: when i used that one last, there was no option to create a boot for the current version of ubuntu. and it wouldnt work when i tried to boot the drive21:44
Galvatron!spanish | datasys21:44
ubottudatasys: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.21:44
mspencerAlso, the unity color based on the background has not changed.21:45
gordonjcpmspencer: I have no idea21:45
gordonjcpmspencer: I was just suggesting something that's tripped people up in the past21:46
cookie1980beecrofth: this one works just fine: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/liveusb-install-live-usb-creator/21:46
user651299Gordonjcp: ...assuming a firewall is configured to deny inbound traffic on all ports, is there any way of communicating with that machine?21:46
beecrofthcookie 1980: perfect. thats not the one i used before! thanks so much for your help. wish me luck!21:46
cookie1980beecrofth: good luck! ;)21:47
mspencergordonjcp: Should I report this as a bug?21:47
gordonjcpmspencer: possibly21:47
lThess523I need some Ubuntu inspiration. Is anybody doing something truly creative on their Ubuntu box?21:47
gordonjcpuser651299: if you deny *all* inbound traffic?  No21:47
gordonjcpuser651299: you may as well just unplug the ethernet cable, though21:48
mspencergordonjcp: It just started happening recently, so I don't know if I messed something up.21:48
Sazpaimongordonjcp, No idea21:48
cookie1980lThess523: what about blender3d, that is creative :)21:49
SazpaimonI've read that if you actually run the LED manager in a windows VM, it will work, so it must not be something very low leve21:49
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gordonjcpSazpaimon: maybe have a look at the output of lsusb21:49
gordonjcpSazpaimon: or see if there's anything in dmesg that might give you a clue21:50
Sazpaimongordonjcp, the keyboard is ps/221:50
lThess523Cookie1980: I'll take a look21:50
user651299Gordonjcp: unless i the machine in question only needed to check external sources and output that to a monitor21:51
SazzoHi.. 12.04 server. I updated my kernel and was faced with a option screen saying the menu.lst can be modified.  I was offered to leave it alone or choose the package maintainer's version.  Is there anything dangerous about the wrong choice?  Other than booting into the same kernel as before?  For reference: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/ubuntu-grub-unchanged-734864/21:52
SazzoAlso, I never rebooted. I thought I'd ask here first.21:53
Xix19I just installed samba but I can't share a folder for read and write, I get "access denied"21:53
Xix19I added "security=share" and "guest ok=yes" in /etc/samba/smb.conf21:53
Xix19and "service smb restart" after of course21:54
Xix19why do I still get access denied?21:54
WeThePeopleanybody know which binary file i use with fwcutter for a bcm device21:54
bekks!wifi21:54
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs21:54
gordonjcpuser651299: but if you've blocked all inbound traffic, you won't get responses from the devices you check21:55
bekksWeThePeople: Which chipset do you have exactly?21:55
altermannhello21:55
WeThePeoplebekks,4306 r321:55
altermannis there no "wheel" group for Ubuntu?21:56
gordonjcpaltermann: not by default21:56
user651299Gordonjcp: ah, but of course, youre right, i didnt think of that, food for thought, thank you :)21:57
gordonjcpuser651299: obviously you'd need to be more specific about what you firewall off21:57
altermannis "adm" its equivalent?21:57
gordonjcpuser651299: and of course if you're behind NAT, you don't really need to bother21:57
bekksWeThePeople: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#supported21:57
user651299Gordonjcp: thank you, i have lots of reading, now. Your help is very much appreciated, bye!21:59
HonvaiHello. If I download yellow dog linux for iPad, and link it to the PlayStation will install it?21:59
MonkeyDustHonvai  how is your question ubuntu related?22:02
Honvaitroll you22:02
altermannHonvai, is YLD even available for the Ipad?22:03
WeThePeoplewhere do firmware extracts usually go?22:03
WeThePeoplewhat dir.22:04
altermanni'm pretty sure there's a channel for YLD support22:04
HonvaiI do not know22:04
mikey1234Is it possible to use Chrome's PepperFlash plugin on other browsers since it contains the latest flash player?22:05
helpmehello22:05
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bekksWeThePeople: /lib/firmware/22:06
bekksWeThePeople: "The standard place where firmware is installed to is /lib/firmware." - From my last link. :)22:06
mikey1234Also where does Chrome store its plugins like flash?22:06
xanguamikey1234: you can use it in chromium :P http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/how-to-make-chromium-use-flash-player.html22:09
ivoqmikey1234, look in /opt/google/chrome/22:09
ivoqdepending on the version, there is libflashplugin.so in there somewhere22:09
ActionParsnipIf you are using chrome, you don't need flash, it has flash.....22:10
mikey1234One more question: Where do the preferences for chrome reside in? I'm looking for stuff that's found on Windows at /Users/AppData/Google/Chrome/localstate or /Preferences.22:10
mikey1234ActionParsnip: Thanks for that, I had no idea it had flash.22:11
ivoq~/.config/google-chrome/22:11
ActionParsnipmikey1234: yes, you don't need any flash packages installed, bliss22:11
ActionParsnipmikey1234: btw, chrome is not chromium22:11
mikey1234ActionParsnip: Fine. That wasn't my question, which was answered already.22:12
mikey1234Also, thanks ivoq.22:12
ivoqyou're welcome22:13
ActionParsnipmikey1234: if you copy the flash plugin to /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins    it will be used by Chromium22:13
SazzoHi.. 12.04 server. I updated my kernel and was faced with a option screen saying the menu.lst can be modified.  I was offered to leave it alone or choose the package maintainer's version.  Is there anything dangerous about the wrong choice?  Other than booting into the same kernel as before?  For reference: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/ubuntu-grub-unchanged-734864/  I didn't reboot yet.. thought I'd ask first.22:16
ActionParsnipSazzo: that is grub legacy, i'd use the maintainers one then install Grub2 for an easy life22:17
vekinis there an nvidia-smi package in any repos that I can install?22:19
vekinvery frustrating22:19
Flyzoolahey guys, having problems (again). I am unable to update my version of 10.04. I am unable to also load any flash content ant this is a clean install of 10.04. **ANOTHER FRESH INSTALL IN NOT AN OPTION BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A FLOPPY OR CD DRIVE, AND MY BIOS IS TOO OLD TO SUPPORT BOOTING THROUGH USB** So far those have been today's problems :/22:20
ActionParsnipvekin: can you give the output of:  apt-cache policy nvidia-smi; sudo apt-get install nvidia-smi; lsb_release -a        Thanks, use a pastebin22:20
ActionParsnip!caps | Flyzoola22:20
ubottuFlyzoola: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.22:20
vekinActionParsnip: thats not a real package22:20
SazzoActionParsnip, is there any risk on leaving the original grub alone?  I ask this because this server is 20 miles away.. I took over this role. :)22:21
ActionParsnipFlyzoola: Lucid desktop has 6 month support left....22:21
FlyzoolaSorry, just felt that needed to be emphasized since I'm always being told to just "fresh install"22:21
vekinits 12.10 and im using bumblebee-nvidia22:21
ActionParsnipFlyzoola: do you have a second PC?22:22
ActionParsnipFlyzoola: you can put the drive in another PC, install the the drive then put it back in the original PC22:22
FlyzoolaActionParsnip, No I don't have a second PC.22:22
FlyzoolaI just emphasized that a clean install isn't an option...22:22
FlyzoolaI literally had to commune 3 hours to get this install, I don't feel like doing that again.22:23
ActionParsnipFlyzoola: so you cannot update your OS? Is that the issue?22:23
atriusi made a change to an upstart job's conf file.. however.. a service XXXX restart doesn't reflect the change... is there something else that needs to be done? some update command or other?22:23
vekinFlyzoola: in a clutch you can always just boot a livecd like sysrescuecd directly from grub222:24
vekinand install the OS that way22:24
ActionParsnipSazzo: you could keep it but it is recommended to move to the newer grub22:24
FlyzoolaActionParsnip, I can't update it, and I can't use flash on either chrome or firefox. As I mentioned I am on a 10 year old pc.22:24
ActionParsnipFlyzoola: can you install normal updates?22:24
FlyzoolaVeiken, I was told to not use caps on an emphasis on how I can't do a clean install because I don't have a floppy, or disk drive. And my BIOS is too old to support booting from USB.22:25
FlyzoolaActionparsnip, like through the package manager? I fixed a couple (more like a couple dozen) broken packages through here. Just a big pain the in the rear.22:25
auronandaceFlyzoola: he just told you to use grub to boot the iso on your harddrive directly22:25
vekinFlyzoola: i didn't suggest that i said you can boot a livecd image from grub222:26
jgsprattHello, I am trying to apt-get isntall vmfs-tools but I got a "E: Unable to locate package vfs-tools"22:26
Flyzoolamyapologies22:26
jgsprattHow can I fix this E?22:26
ActionParsnipFlyzoola: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'22:27
ActionParsnip!find vfs22:27
Flyzoolaveikin, that's probably a bit out of my league. I am just a casual user that likes Ubuntu because it runs on my crappy old PC. I'm in no way shape or form knowledgeable in how it works22:27
ubottuFound: gvfs, gvfs-backends, gvfs-bin, gvfs-common, gvfs-daemons, gvfs-dbg, gvfs-fuse, gvfs-libs, libcommons-vfs-java, libcommons-vfs-java-doc (and 30 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=vfs&searchon=names&suite=quantal&section=all22:27
ActionParsnipjgspratt: click the link above22:27
vekinoh.. well if you aren't familiar at all with grub or installing linux without an automated installer it would probably be best to not attempt22:28
jgsprattActionParsnip: that is not the package I am trying to install actually22:28
FlyzoolaActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/iBZZ861y22:28
jgsprattit is this one: http://glandium.org/projects/vmfs-tools/22:28
jgsprattYou can see how to install it here: http://digfor.blogspot.com/2011/04/accessing-vmfs-partitions.html22:29
guntbert!info vmfs-tools22:29
ubottuvmfs-tools (source: vmfs-tools): Tools to access VMFS filesystems. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.2.5-1 (quantal), package size 123 kB, installed size 283 kB22:29
vekin!info nvidia-smi22:29
ubottuPackage nvidia-smi does not exist in quantal22:29
vekinT.T22:29
guntbertjgspratt: did you enable "universe"22:29
jgsprattwhat is that? is that a repo?22:29
guntbert!repos | jgspratt22:30
ubottujgspratt: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories22:30
jgspratt(I'm on a live cd)22:30
Blacklistenable "universe jgspratt22:30
guntbertjgspratt: then you need to enable the "software source" universe22:30
jgsprattthe source? the repo is the source?22:31
guntbertjgspratt: there are several ways to do that. In software center click on edit/software sources22:33
Blacklistjgspratt, open synaptic and  enable the "software source" universe22:33
HonvaiHellp. Help http://paste.lisp.org/display/133778#122:33
YcareneUgh, I can't my dkms to work with the 3.5.0-18-generic kernel.22:33
guntbertthere enable "community-maintained" (universe)22:33
DaemonicApathyFlyzoola: Just curious, what kind of hardware are you running on? You mentioned it was old.22:34
guntbertBlacklist: on a live system he won't have synaptic22:34
ActionParsnipFlyzoola: sudo apt-get --purge remove adobe-flash-properties-gtk adobe-flashplugin; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer22:34
jgsprattIt didn't recognize my mouse.  Is there a way to use linux via the command line to enable a repo?22:34
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jgspratt(its an optical mouse, so maybe its too new)22:35
FlyzoolaDaemonicApathy, I have a stock hp pavilion 304w for the most part. Just has about 1.3 gbs of ram.22:35
jgsprattok, I found the sources file22:35
yeatsHonvai: ipads are not supported here22:35
guntbertjgspratt: press the win-key, type "soft", press <enter>, then you software center should start22:35
Honvaitroll22:36
guntbert!here | Honvai22:36
ubottuHonvai: Please give at least an overview of your problem *here* (all in one line) - you will get a much greater audience. If you have to use more than 3 lines, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com22:36
jgsprattguntbert: thanks!22:36
guntbertjgspratt: You're welcome :)22:36
blacknessjgspratt, get it figured out?22:37
Honvaihow to install ubuntu in ipad322:37
bekksHonvai: Please stop trolling.22:37
jgsprattI think so, yeah. I had to install vim because the arrow keys wouldn't work in this vi, but I wrote universe and multiverse at the end of a line in sources.list and did an update22:38
jgsprattseems happy22:38
ActionParsnipHonvai: why buy a crippled half spec'd pad pc then expect it to be able to accommodate anything but Apple's dumbass OS?22:38
ActionParsnipHonvai: what sort of mentality is that?22:38
jgsprattgrabbing vmfs-tools now!22:38
Blacklistjgspratt,  open the terminal and paste this sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"22:38
varunpriolkarHonvai: http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CB0QtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DfpXmVzxl6JA&ei=ecCmUJH1CIuqrAfs0oHYBA&usg=AFQjCNG6yye4_aB6RAloBMkLXKaNFqe0Bg check that out..22:39
jgsprattBlacklist: why do I need that?22:39
jgsprattdo you know what I'm trying to do?22:39
ActionParsnipHonvai: the whole idea of ipads is that they are for morons who don't want to think but have the spare cash to splash on an underspecced system. Then you expect the system (from one of the most closed minded companies around) to be able to have anything but the iPad OS on it?Are you serious?22:39
guntbertjgspratt: thx for the remark about vi/vim - some student recently complained about misbehaving arrow keys in vi22:40
Blacklistenable sorce universe22:40
jgsprattyeah. they are weired.  they type capital letters.22:40
Flyzoolaactionparsnip, just finished installing the flash plug in. But flash still crashes22:41
guntbertjgspratt: and nowyou told me a way to remedy that :)22:41
jgsprattyep, install 25MB of vim and you're good to go.22:41
Honvaiyes i22:41
Honvaiam serious22:42
ActionParsnipFlyzoola: not sure then. All I can suggest is remove all flash packages and install Chrome, it has flash already in.22:42
ActionParsnipHonvai: can you not see where the question completely falls down?22:42
ShinyObjects1Woo! Hey everyone - if anyone's stuck running Outlook in a virtual machine hit me up. I made a fun little script that will let you get notifications on your linux desktop when you get mail in outlook in the VM22:42
FlyzoolaActionParsnip, I have chrome installed but it says it failed to load flash on it22:42
ShinyObjects1Message me if you'd like it22:42
ShinyObjects1It's nice not to have to check on the VM every few minutes22:43
ActionParsnipHonvai: http://ipadqueries.com/possible-install-ubuntu-linux-ipad-886.html22:43
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ActionParsnipShinyObjects1: why run outlook when there are so many email clients for Ubuntu which are native22:44
edoceoHow does one set the TZ from CLI?  `dpkg-reconfigure tzdata` has that prompt window come up, I just want to force to 'America/Chicago'22:44
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ShinyObjects1ActionParsnip: Because Thunderbird caused me to get kicked off the domain every time it checked for mail and Evolution crashed randomly or gave me faulty data22:44
ActionParsnipShinyObjects1: any other clients tested?22:44
ShinyObjects1(and leaked memory like a sieve)22:44
ShinyObjects1ActionParsnip: no other clients were able to connect to the Exchange server, no22:45
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designbybeckI was able to VPN into my work network from home, but how do I connect to my office computer22:45
ActionParsnipShinyObjects1: oh then thats the issue,22:45
ShinyObjects1Every client I found was either inactive for years or super buggy/crashy/memory leaky22:45
designbybeckboth home and office run Ubuntu 12.1022:45
HonvaiIs there such a code in which this all gets better?22:45
bekksdesignbybeck: ssh.22:45
michealPWI've installed the latest fglrx (Proprietary ATI) drivers and doing fglrxinfo tells me everything was installed fine ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/1363759/ ) and my Xorg log is fine ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/1363762/ ) as well as dmesg ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/1363763/ ) yet when I open Details, it shows under Graphics: "VESA: SUMO"22:45
bekksHonvai: No.22:46
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ActionParsnipHonvai: doubt it22:46
designbybeckbekks:  YOU AGAIN!... haven't you had enough of me already! :P22:46
michealPWAny ideas what's going on, or am I just interpreting what "Details" is saying wrong? Thx22:46
bekksdesignbybeck: ;)22:46
designbybeckbekks:  so once I VPN to the network? just ssh to the computer name?22:46
ActionParsnipdesignbybeck: can you ping it's IP?22:46
bekksdesignbybeck: I'd use the IP rather than the name.22:46
designbybecknot sure what the IP address would be. it is dynamicDHCP22:47
ShinyObjects1ActionParsnip: Also neither evolution nor thunderbird supported the Exchange server's calendars and notifications.22:47
designbybeckso wouldn't that change ActionParsnip22:47
bekksdesignbybeck: Well, you have to know the IP :)22:47
ShinyObjects1It's a bummer :\22:47
brophatthere is package that I downloaded but never installed and now everytime there is a kernel update it attempts to install that package and says there was an error attempting to install it.22:47
ActionParsnipShinyObjects1: seems like the issue is a poor choice of mail server :)22:47
bekksActionParsnip++22:47
designbybecki got the ip from ifconfig bekks and ActionParsnip22:47
brophatI want to get rid of what I downloaded so that does not happen with every kernel update22:48
ActionParsnipdesignbybeck: not hugely, You may be able to ping the name, depends how the VPN is confgures22:48
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ShinyObjects1Heh, I'll say, ActionParsnip. I wish the choice was mine, but when you're the new guy in a 100+ person organization you don't have the clout to decide :\22:48
Evil_Ericwhy not use synaptic package manager to lock the file out so the updates will stop trying to install it22:48
bekksdesignbybeck: You need the IP of the computer you want to connect to. Not your own.22:48
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ActionParsnipdesignbybeckas long as it is in a different netmask to your home network, you can connect22:48
designbybeckok I was able to VPN so I know I got into the network at least22:48
bulletrulzlol22:48
bulletrulz<IdleOne> Are you trying to be stupid or does it just come natural?22:48
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bulletrulz<bulletrulz> um preety damn stupid why?22:48
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bulletrulz<IdleOne> In that case I'll try to not use big words22:48
FloodBot1bulletrulz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:48
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designbybeckbekks: this is the computer I want to connect to when I go hom22:48
designbybeckhome22:48
ShinyObjects1So if you're stuck with Exchange and Outlook, at least you can get notifications on your desktop :)22:48
bulletrulzfuck u flootbot22:48
brophatwhere do packages get downloaded to?22:48
ActionParsnipdesignbybeck: so if your VPN adapter has a 192.168.0.x address and your home network uses the same, it won't work22:49
DJonesbulletrulz: No need for swearing22:49
designbybeckno I don't think that is the case ActionParsnip22:49
designbybeckI mean they are differnet addresses22:49
HonvaiInstall ubuntu Internal Storage22:49
ActionParsnipdesignbybeck: you may need to change the subnet of your home network to accommodate22:49
designbybeckbut ActionParsnip and bekks, do I have to have my Work Ubuntu set to share? or something?22:49
ActionParsnipdesignbybeck: thats cool then22:50
bekksdesignbybeck: ssh is basically you need, so be sure to have a working openssh server on your box.22:50
ActionParsnipdesignbybeck: well, how do you want to access it, and to achieve what?22:50
ActionParsnipdesignbybeck: surely everything you access is on a server?22:50
designbybeckActionParsnip: I would like to view the desktop and interact with it22:50
bekksdesignbybeck: Then take a look into nxserver/nxclient.22:51
ActionParsnipdesignbybeck: yes, but to achieve what?22:51
brophatActionParsnip help me out with my question22:51
ActionParsnipdesignbybeck: what are you going to do on the desktop?22:51
designbybeckActionParsnip: bekks:  bekks has been helping with a VM. I'm trying to make my own distro and want to keep working on it from home, but not take all these files22:51
bekksdesignbybeck: All these files? Export the vm as .ova, done :)22:52
ActionParsnipbrophat: uninstall the package22:52
designbybeckhmmm22:52
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designbybeckbekks:  then that would be a 20gb file i have to cart around?22:52
bekksdesignbybeck: No, it will be compressed.22:53
ActionParsnipdesignbybeck: if you install openssh-server on the desktop, you can access the files using nautilus/terminal. You don't need the desktop for that22:53
designbybeckI was hoping to see the desktop so I could just keep things open ActionParsnip, does it not work like that22:53
designbybeckTo remote into?22:53
LLStarkshow do i reset gnome? my g-c-c settings won't unlock unless i use gksu. can't change themes or make my clock am/pm.22:53
ActionParsnipdesignbybeck: or, just ssh to the systemand do things in terminal there....22:53
michealPWOn Ubuntu, the "Details" program shows "Graphics: VESA: SUMO" is this a problem? I've properly installed fglrx v9.0 from AMD/ATI.22:53
ShinyObjects1designbybeck NX is a great snappy way to remote desktop22:53
michealPWSorry, Ubuntu 12.04.122:53
bekksdesignbybeck: If you want your desktop, take a look into nxclient/nxserver.22:54
designbybeckThank you ShinyObjects122:54
bulletrulzsorry i posted in the wrong channel22:54
ShinyObjects1designbybeck If you install freeNX (you can get it at nomachine.org) it'll be accessible over the SSH port22:54
designbybecki've never heard of it bekks i'll go hunt it down22:54
ActionParsnipmichealPW: what ATi GPU do you use?22:54
ShinyObjects1designbybeck I'd recommend you use their older 3.x branch rather than the new 4.x22:54
ShinyObjects1designbybeck The link is buried but it's worth it - faster.22:54
michealPWActionParsnip: I'm using The HD 6550D, it's built-in to my AMD A822:54
designbybeckShinyObjects1:  so just the 3.5v NX Free Edition for Linux ?22:55
ShinyObjects1Yep designbybeck.  And that's the same thing that bekks was recommending22:55
designbybeckClient Node Server ?22:55
designbybeckwhich has to be server?22:55
ShinyObjects1Your work machine should install node and server22:56
ActionParsnipmichaelni: should be ok with the proprietary driver22:56
ShinyObjects1Your machine at home should install client22:56
designbybeckgreat! Trying it now! Thanks ShinyObjects1 ActionParsnip bekks !!22:56
designbybeckIT IS TIME FOR A DRINK!22:56
brophatActionParsnip it was never installed22:56
ShinyObjects1designbybeck one important trick - if you want to be able to login using your unix user/pass edit /usr/NX/etc/server.cfg and make sure "EnableUserDB" and "EnablePassDB" are both 022:57
michealPWActionParsnip: Ah, okay. fglrxinfo and glxinfo all seem to say everything is installed and working fine but it's just this gnome-shell details utility said VESA: SUMO so I wasn't sure if it should say fglrx or AMD or something :\22:57
michealPWOr maybe does it always say that, maybe that utility is just broken?22:57
bekksShinyObjects1: Thats not needed, actually. :)22:57
ActionParsnipmichealPW: does:   sudo lshw -C display    show something different22:57
ShinyObjects1designbybeck congrats, you can now access your machine via shell, remote desktop, and file sharing  over a secure, encrypted connection all on the same port :)22:58
ShinyObjects1It isn't, bekks? I thought it was...22:58
bekksShinyObjects1: It never was, for me.22:58
Honvaihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66S8is1E9MI&feature=related22:58
ShinyObjects1Weird. I first used it back in like... 2005 though. Perhaps it was back then?22:59
bekksShinyObjects1: Thats possible.22:59
ShinyObjects1I was pretty new to the whole Linux world then though, so I could have just gotten it wrong22:59
michealPWActionParsnip: Here's what lshw says: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1363794/22:59
michealPWIt seems to be fine, too22:59
michealPWEverything's properly reporting the ATI chip, although that 33mhz is WAY off (More like 650mhz hehe)22:59
michealPWWant me to make a screenshot? Can I put a TinyPic link in here?23:01
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ActionParsnipmichealPW: yes, tinypic is great23:01
ActionParsnipmichealPW: or imageshack etc23:02
brophatActionParsnip ok found the package how do i remove it?23:03
ActionParsnipbrophat: sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename23:03
brophatActionParsnip thanks. Ubuntu should make a poster with all the commands on it that we can put on our wall23:04
ActionParsnipbrophat: there are so many its not really feasible.23:04
designbybeckShinyObjects1: http://www.pasteall.org/3729023:04
douglis it dpkg -i packagename.deb?23:04
brophatActionParsnip ok make two posters23:05
designbybeckShinyObjects1:  i installed 'sudo apt-get install ssh'23:05
bekksdesignbybeck: You need the openssh server.23:05
DaemonicApathybrophat: http://fosswire.com/post/2008/04/ubuntu-cheat-sheet/23:05
designbybeckbekks:  i tried sudo apt-get install openssh23:05
brophatDeomonicApathy thanks23:05
michealPWSorry23:05
designbybeckand it didn't like that23:05
michealPWTook me forever to find Crop in GIMP (rofl)23:06
ActionParsnip!manual | brophat23:06
ubottubrophat: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/23:06
bekksdesignbybeck: "it idnt like that" - is it what you felt your computer may thought? :)23:06
designbybeckha23:06
designbybeckyeah!23:06
michealPWHere's what's got me confused: http://i46.tinypic.com/10giu6x.png23:06
designbybeckhow do I install openssh?23:06
designbybeckI might just wait until monday!23:07
bekksdesignbybeck: By telling us what your computer "didnt like" with apt-get install openssh23:07
designbybeckoh23:07
ActionParsnipdesignbybeck: sudo apt-get install openssh-server23:07
designbybeckE: Unable to locate package openssh23:07
designbybeckbekks23:07
designbybeckah yes that was it ActionParsnip and looks like i alraedy had it23:08
michealPWdesignbybeck: Also, don't forget apt-cache search openssh23:08
michealPWThat would have found openssh-server package I think ;)23:08
bekksdesignbybeck: Maybe because it is named "openssh-server" :)23:08
n0sqor sudo aptitude search openssh23:08
bekksn0sq: You dont need sudo for searching. And aptitude is deprecated and discouraged.23:09
designbybeckyou guys are making my brain hurt on a friday at 5pm!23:09
michealPWMaybe I should install aptitude, hehe23:09
n0sqbekks: first i've heard of that23:09
ActionParsnip!aptitude | michealPW23:09
ubottumichealPW: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter problems on multiarch installs (11.10 and higher) as aptitude cannot currently handle the same package with different architectures being installed at the same time. See http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.23:09
n0sqworks fine for me23:09
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designbybeckShinyObjects1:  do I have to start the process?23:10
designbybeckShinyObjects1: sudo /usr/NX/bin/nxserver --start23:10
ShinyObjects1hey designbybeck - sorry I was afk. I'm back23:10
designbybeckI get that error http://www.pasteall.org/3729023:10
ShinyObjects1actually designbybeck you just do "service nxserver start"23:10
michealPWActionParsnip: http://i46.tinypic.com/10giu6x.png23:11
designbybeckShinyObjects1:  i got that same error23:11
michealPWActionParsnip: Is that normal? The "VESA: SUMO" ?23:11
designbybeckShinyObjects1:  my SSH not configured correctly?23:11
ShinyObjects1Not sure, designbybeck23:11
ShinyObjects1Try to ssh into your own machine23:12
ShinyObjects1ssh localhost23:12
ShinyObjects1see what that does23:12
WeThePeoplehow do i get this to connect to something>>> http://imgh.us/desktop_3.png23:12
gordonjcpI wish the global menu bug was fixed23:14
michealPWWhich?23:14
WeThePeoplethe wireless device23:14
ActionParsnipWeThePeople: nice choice of guake ;)23:17
WeThePeoplethanks, i kow you like it to :)23:17
WeThePeopleknow823:17
* ShinyObjects1 high-fives ActionParsnip and WeThePeople23:18
michealPWI like the way your desktop looks, WeThePeople :)23:18
ShinyObjects1<3 guake23:18
WeThePeoplethanks23:19
ActionParsnipShinyObjects1: learnt something about it today, in the appearance tab, you can drag the colours from the palette to the thing you want23:19
ShinyObjects1That's spiffy!23:20
MarcPlusTwoGood Morning23:20
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douglis the syntax...23:21
douglis it dpkg -i packagename.deb?23:21
michealPWYea23:21
ActionParsnipdougl: yes23:21
douglthanks ActionParsnip :)23:21
michealPWYou can use wildcard, too like dpkg -i ./*.deb23:21
michealPWThanks for your time, ActionParsnip :)23:24
arunkumar413how to know all the ip addresses like gateway address, netmask, ip address etc23:24
michealPWarunkumar413: For gateway use route23:25
michealPWActually, just use route haha it'll give you all that info :P23:25
emrichey0409I am stuck at a grub> prompt....anyone help me with this? Psl.23:25
diverdudeHey...i have used gparted to format my usb-drive to ext4. However for some reason its not being mounted when inserted in the machine. dmesg gives me this: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/477266039 What am I missing?23:25
michealPWarunkumar413: There's also ifconfig which has a lot of useful info, but I think route is what you're looking for :P23:25
ActionParsnipemrichey0409: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video23:26
chris_hi23:26
michealPWNixie is awesome23:27
mag]]join #bash23:28
mag]]woops23:28
larvanI am on 12.04 LTS and I have python-pyinotify 0.9.2 installed from official repos. I had to manually replace the actual python file with the lastest version and I would like to know if there is a way to stop apt from updating it until 0.9.4 is available. any ideas?23:28
chris_is there anyone how can run the apparmor-tool aa-logprof under ubuntu 12.04 without errors?23:28
arunkumar413michealPW: ok, now how find the netmask, broadcast, network address23:28
ActionParsnipmichealPW: her voice grates on my nerves23:29
michealPWarunkumar413: Well, also check ifconfig23:30
diverdudeHey...i have used gparted to format my usb-drive to ext4. However for some reason its not being mounted when inserted in the machine. dmesg gives me this: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/477266039 What am I missing?23:30
arunkumar413michealPW: ifconfig not giving all the information23:30
mcphailHi everyone. Has anyone produced an alternate install CD/DVD for 12.10? I have trouble booting the live CD on this machine and cannot install.23:30
michealPWI'm not sure about "broadcast", networking isn't really my thing. Network address (192.168.1.1, for example?) and netmask are all in route though23:31
michealPWifconfig shows me my internet address but it's in ipv6 format LOL23:31
bjrohanFor some reason the audio on my 12.10 system is garbled.  When this happened before in 12.04, it had to do with conflicting drivers. How can I check this to solve it?23:32
michealPWarunkumar413: In my ifconfig, the second line is this: inet addr:192.168.1.101  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.023:32
michealPWBcast is broadcast, I'm guessing? Is that what you're looking for no?23:32
ActionParsnipbjrohan: a good start is:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    wait 10 seconds and reboot23:33
bjrohanActionParsnip: If I don't kill, but reboot, would I possibly have the same problem?23:33
bjrohanActionParsnip: In other words does rebooting alone not solve my possible issue?23:34
michealPWbjrohan: It's the rm command, removing your config. Yes without those commands you'll have the same problem.23:34
di3bisHi all, I have two OS on my computer, Window 7 and Ubuntu 12.04, the computer get stuck when booting the Ubuntu, how can repair ??? Thanks !23:34
michealPWbjrohan: The rm command removes your configuration for PulseAudio, restarting will have Pulse start again, notice no config file and make a new one for you ( This is probably what will fix the problem or at least will be a good start, as ActionParsnip said :P )23:35
bjrohanActionParsnip: Thanks. I am encoding a video, when done I will give it a try23:35
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di3bisHi all, I have two OS on my computer, Window 7 and Ubuntu 12.04, the computer get stuck when booting the Ubuntu, how can repair ??? Thanks !23:35
michealPWdi3bis: You don't have to repeat yourself. Someone will reply with an answer once somebody's available :P23:36
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michealPWdi3bis: What other info can you provide, by the way? What exactly is happening when you try to start Ubuntu.23:36
di3bisi recenty upgraded to 12.0423:37
di3bislast week23:37
michealPWWhat version did you upgrade from?23:37
di3bisit loads the "Ubunto logo" then get to black screen23:37
michealPWAh, the black screen is it asking you to log-in?23:37
di3bisNot sure what version i had before :(23:38
ShinyObjects1My favorite thing about Linux: it's just so pretty! -- http://imgur.com/p3Fh7 <-- pretty high res, so expect a big picture. (~2MB)23:38
michealPWIt's alright. So is this a seperate computer you're using right now or have you just started Windows from the same c omputer?23:38
di3bisit doesn't ask anything23:38
di3bisjust black screen23:38
di3bissome times it stuck also on the Loading Logo23:39
michealPWOh, hrmm23:39
ActionParsnipdi3bis: what video chip do you use?23:40
michealPWShinyObjects1: That's a really nice resolution :P23:41
michealPWI wish I could pull that off :(23:41
wjtaylorseriously... how do I get the nice pretty gnome 3 on ubuntu 12.04? gnome shell just installs what looks like gnome 2.23:41
* ShinyObjects1 is spoiled23:41
di3bisi use Invidia23:41
ShinyObjects1That's my work machine - at home I don't have near that23:41
ActionParsnipwjtaylor: gnome3 is default in Precise23:41
di3bislet me check what type of it23:41
michealPWI've got a 22 inch monitor, only seems to go to 1680x1050  :(23:41
ShinyObjects1wjtaylor: I have yet to find a really good looking gtk3 theme :(23:42
ShinyObjects1Yeah michaelPW my monitor at home is 23" at 1680x105023:42
ActionParsnipShinyObjects1: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/QuantalDesktop.png    simple times :)23:42
michealPWwjtaylor: Have you tried sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment23:42
designbybeckActionParsnip: bekks ShinyObjects1 guess what!... I ssh'd into my work ssytem from home!23:43
designbybeckthrough VPN23:43
wjtaylorActionParsnip: Looks like unity is the default.23:43
michealPWwjtaylor: That should add an option to lightDM for when you log-in called "Gnome", which is the full-blown GNOME 3 DE.23:43
designbybeckAlso I have an adult beverage in hand23:43
ActionParsnipShinyObjects1: or in raring: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/raring.png23:43
ShinyObjects1Here at work I've got a couple 23" monitors at 1920x108023:43
michealPWwjtaylor: He/She means Unity is in fact running ontop of Gnome-Shell.23:43
designbybeckShinyObjects1:  I don't think I got NX setup correctly though23:43
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LyzardKingis it possible to know anything on the wayland support in ubuntu?23:43
di3bisI use NVIDIA GEFore 9800 GTX23:43
wjtaylormichaelPW: I will now. thx23:43
michealPWwjtaylor: So "technically" Gnome3 is always tehre by default :P23:43
ShinyObjects1designbybeck awesome!23:43
ShinyObjects1designbybeck I found this while you were gone http://readlist.com/lists/kde.org/freenx-knx/0/2581.html23:43
ActionParsnipdi3bis: uninstall the proprietary driver, reboot then install it again23:44
designbybecklooking now ShinyObjects123:44
michealPWShiny: Ah, I thought that screenshot was like ~3000x~2000 LOL23:44
michealPWSeemed crazy big. Makes me jealous :(23:44
michealPWOh wait, I get it..23:44
di3bis<ActionParsnip> - I can't log into Ubunto , i don't even have safe mood option23:44
michealPWIt's 2 monitors, duh.. I'm such an idiot LOL don't mind me :(23:45
ShinyObjects1Nice choice in movies, ActionParsnip23:45
ActionParsnipShinyObjects1: well, comedy series. But yeah :)23:45
TheCrittaCHello, I have an issue with my sound card (it uses the snd-ice1724 module)23:45
ActionParsnipdi3bis: hold SHIFT at boot, select recovery mode, select root23:45
ShinyObjects1ActionParsnip: have you ever messed with xwinwrap?23:45
TheCrittaCIt's detected by the OS and shows up in 'aplay -l', but I cannot get sound out of it.23:45
TheCrittaCThe /dev/dsp device also does not exist.23:46
ActionParsnipShinyObjects1: a little, kills my cpu pretty well if you run a video with it23:46
ActionParsnipShinyObjects1: and so forth. I don't have much power, hence openbox :)23:46
ShinyObjects1:) Yeah, I run the GLMatrix screen saver as my left monitor''s desktop23:46
michealPWhaha23:46
ShinyObjects1ActionParsnip: totally understand. That's what I run on my netbook23:46
michealPWNice23:46
di3bis<ActionParsnip> - will SHIFT work even if i have this question to load Window7 or Ubuntu ?23:46
ActionParsnipShinyObjects1: openbox + xcompmgr + docky or plank23:47
ShinyObjects1Yeah michaelPW - it's really fun because there are only 2 others running Linux at my company23:47
michealPWLinus advocates ~2000 pixel standard resolution :|23:47
ShinyObjects1So when people walk by and see my screen they're awestruck23:47
WeThePeoplewhat does a kernel upgrade mean??23:47
ActionParsnipdi3bis: if you used junky wubi, then hold it after that I guess23:47
bekksWeThePeople: The same thing as on gentoo - installing a new kernel.23:47
michealPWI was reading a Google+ post he made about it. Meh he makes a good argument but where are these monitors that can do it? Or maybe that's his point, haha :|23:47
ShinyObjects1They always say "THAT is Linux?!? I thought  it was all ... text mode screens and stuff."23:47
ActionParsnipWeThePeople: you are getting a new kernel. You need to reboot to load the new kernel23:47
michealPWKsplice!~23:48
michealPW(muscle)23:48
WeThePeoplebekks, like upgrade to 10.10 from 10.04??23:48
ActionParsnipShinyObjects1: oh yea, especially from those who say they are 'good with computers'23:48
ActionParsnipShinyObjects1: when really they are 'good at running setup.exe'23:48
bekksWeThePeople: Thats an Ubuntu release update. Kernel updates mean something like 3.6.2 -> 3.6.323:48
WeThePeopleok23:48
michealPWhaha ShinyObjects1 yea I get that too heehee!23:48
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di3bis<ActionParsnip> -- thanks guys , i'll give it a try23:49
ShinyObjects1Exactly ActionParsnip. It really surprises them to see me running all their Windows programs alongside my better looking Linux programs23:49
michealPWhehe ShinyObjects1 everyone's blown away with the XBox controller hooked to my Fedora machine haha23:49
michealPWMy kids use to play games on.23:49
michealPW"That's linux??" heehee!23:50
ShinyObjects1Haha. Nice. Yeah they're pretty impressed when I plug stuff into my machine and it just works (webcams, etc)23:50
ShinyObjects1They try to hand me the CD that came with it and I say "don't need it. Thanks!"23:50
michealPWYea, linux handles serial so brilliantly23:50
wjtaylormichaelPM: does it matter which display manager I use? lightdm or gdm?23:50
michealPWIt took my wife hours to get some LeapFrog thing working on Windows, I just plugged it into Linux and used it like it was a Usb thumb-drive (rofl)23:51
michealPW~2 minutes it was ready :P23:51
ActionParsnipShinyObjects1: to be honest it's not much different, people we just Windows blind :)23:51
michealPWwjtaylor: No, that's personal preference mate. I personally prefer LightDM 'cause it's lightweight and desktop-agnostic... It doesn't care what desktop you use. GDM will partially load GNOME, though...23:51
michealPWEven before you select gnome and log-in, I mean, GDM itself pulls a tonne of gnome stuff into memory. LightDM's like ~5k lines of code to GDM's ~50k lines :P23:52
ShinyObjects1I wish lightDM had more themes available though. GDM's got a ton.23:53
michealPWTrue..23:53
michealPWAlthough lightDM has different greeters23:53
michealPWLike if you start it with the kde greeter it looks totaly different from the unity greeter hehe, different themes avail. for it too (Weird)23:53
ActionParsnipShinyObjects1: why care, it's hardly on the screen, if at all23:53
wjtaylormichaelPW: great. thx. Just out of curiosity, do you know how to bring back the missing menus in the gnome fallback session? System menu that is...23:53
diverdudeHey...i have used gparted to format my usb-drive to ext4. However for some reason its not being mounted when inserted in the machine. dmesg gives me this: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/477266039 What am I missing?23:53
designbybeckShinyObjects1: IT WORKED!!!! I logged into my desktop at work from home!!! Awesome! Thanks guys!23:54
michealPWwjtaylor: Sorry no, I'm not familiar at all with gnome fallback session (I'm not even sure what it technically is LOL)23:54
michealPWhehe designbybeck. ssh is the coolest thing ever! :)23:54
* ShinyObjects1 high fives designbybeck23:54
designbybeckmichealPW:  this was with NoMachine! I'd never even heard of it!23:54
michealPWI haven't, either. Kudos, mate! :)23:55
ShinyObjects1Good job man :) Just so you know NX is really fast most of the time. If you find it sluggish try tweaking the settings23:55
ActionParsnipShinyObjects1: if you want to go the whole hog: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/3d-lightdm-login-window-pretty-slick23:55
ShinyObjects1designbybeck - I first used NX because VMWare Server's remote desktop was so slow... I'd NX in to the machine and run VMWare Server's  remote display and connect it to itsself...23:55
ShinyObjects1through NX it was way faster23:55
ActionParsnipShinyObjects1: essentially....pointless23:55
designbybeckShinyObjects1:  I did have to use NM4 because 3.5 didn't met dependencies23:56
ShinyObjects1ActionParsnip: Not for everyone. Back when I was in college I'd log in and out of my laptop all the time23:56
ShinyObjects1Probably 15-20 times a day23:56
ActionParsnipShinyObjects1: its still pretty pointless imho23:56
bjrohanActionParsnip: Killing and removing the config seems to have worked so far. What would have junked up the pulse config file23:57
michealPWbjrohan: Gamma rays from the sun?23:57
ShinyObjects1There's something to be said for aesthetics, ActionParsnip It has an unquantifiable value23:57
bjrohanProlly23:57
michealPWAesthetics really is important.. Also customizability. One of the first things my grandmother, mom and even wife does is try to change their background, themes etc. and they like to browse through them all... :\23:58
michealPWJust saying, is all..23:58
michealPW:)23:58
thanigaivelhow auto run (sudo hostapd hostapd.conf) command after insert my wifi adoptor. please help me23:58
ShinyObjects1Hahahah ActionParsnip that link is hilarious!!23:58
ShinyObjects1I love it!23:58
michealPWEven though it's not useful, they get upset when they can't do that ( As they see it as so basic :P )23:58
diverdudeanyone?23:59
blackshirthello,good morning23:59
michealPWHello, good evening :)23:59
blackshirt:d23:59
chris_33Hello. I need some help please. I'm new to linux. I just installed skype and its sais it's running, but i cant find it. How do i find "running applications" in linux?23:59

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