[00:00] <LordThumper> zvacet: No from dvd
[00:00] <bkc_> Xabster: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=930101
[00:00] <ikonia> "event"
[00:00] <delinquentme> Jordan_U, Not bad.
[00:00] <Xabster> god bless you, bkerensa
[00:00] <Xabster> bkc_
[00:00] <zvacet> LordThumper: did you install grub on mbr or somewhere else?
[00:01] <bkc_> ikonia: if you read what he said anything about event... only to simulate a video-stream from a v4l-device...
[00:01] <dandaman> what are the recommended hardware specs for 12?
[00:01] <delinquentme> Jordan_U, no need for grep eh?
[00:01] <LordThumper> zvacet: Well sometimes grub comes up and booting
[00:01] <ikonia> bkc_: now that is very useful and I didn't know about that, although reading the docs on it it won't simulate hardware, just the streaming
[00:01] <LordThumper> Then when I choose Ubuntu it stalls at the black screen again
[00:01] <dandaman> i have a 4gb laptop with a centrino chip(i forget the clockrate) and its pretty slugish
[00:01] <Xabster> ikonia: where will the stream go then?
[00:01] <LordThumper> when booting*
[00:01] <ikonia> Xabster: I have no idea, I've never seen this software
[00:01] <ikonia> bkc_ is the one who pointed you at it
[00:01] <dandaman> significantly slower to where using anything before unity is a much better option
[00:01] <david89> Hello. How do I get a program to print all output to the terminal AND to a file?
[00:02] <Jordan_U> delinquentme: Not if what you need to do is covered by shell globbing.
[00:02] <bkc_> ikonia: it is really useful indeed; and no, it doesn't simulate a real hw-device, but that wasn't the question at hand either :)
[00:02] <zvacet> LordThumper: maybe graphic is problem
[00:02] <Jordan_U> david89: command | tee /path/to/file
[00:02] <LordThumper> Ok, rebooted a couple of times, and I am getting a full text message now
[00:02] <ikonia> bkc_: he said "I'd like to simulate having a web cam plugged in" - I took that as "I'd like to simulate having the hardware"
[00:02] <LordThumper> "Starting virtual printing daemon"
[00:02] <david89> Jordan_U: thanks ;)
[00:02] <Jordan_U> david89: You're welcome.
[00:02] <LordThumper> And "Ok" on the far right
[00:02] <ikonia> a video streaming device node, no problem
[00:03] <bkc_> Xabster: the stream will go to a virtual v4l-device (v4l://) any even remotely good streaming-app (e.g. VLC) would pick it up automagically. otherwise it's in /dev/v4l2/<device> :)
[00:03] <Xabster> ikonia: what i more specifically is to read from a "file descriptor" and the data should be a video stream like the stuff from a webcam
[00:03] <Xabster> the actualy ubuntu recognizing the hardware is not needed
[00:03] <ambro718> How can I determine if a certain package has had a certain patch applied?
[00:03] <ikonia> Xabster: from what I'm reading it should create a device file, no problem
[00:03] <Xabster> great stuff
[00:04] <Xabster> next question: is the openjdk 7 in the repos broken?
[00:04] <Xabster> i get 404 error through the software center
[00:04] <bkc_> ikonia: easily missunderstood :) however on a sidenote, simulating a simple hw-device as a webcam is really simple to create :)
[00:04] <Xabster> also my updates failed
[00:05] <bkc_> Xabster: probably a dead repo-mirror, try changing to another :)
[00:05] <ikonia> bkc_: I disagree, the device nodes and such, sure no problem, but actual hardware, Hmmmm
[00:05] <bkc_> ikonia: no problem :)
[00:05] <bkc_> give my the specs and a few hours :P
[00:05] <TomyLobo> bkc_ almost without a hitch. i DID have to reinstall nvidia-current and reboot. but now it works again, without the nvidia.com driver
[00:05] <cillippo> ciao!
[00:05] <TomyLobo> thanks for the help so far
[00:05] <Xabster> bkc_, how do i change that in the software center?
[00:05] <ikonia> bkc_: get it written, I'm sure people would find it useful
[00:05] <bkc_> TomyLobo: great :D
[00:05] <Xabster> i'm only taking "provided by unbuntu" stuff
[00:06] <TomyLobo> i will be too, from now on :D
[00:06] <Jordan_U> delinquentme: By the way, I highly recommend reading http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls .
[00:06] <bkc_> Xabster: software center -> preferences iirc, I usually change /etc/apt/repositories.conf (or somthing like that) by hand in vim thou ^.^
[00:07] <bkc_> changed* (not actually on ubuntu anymore)
[00:07] <veryhappy> thank you all
[00:07] <zvacet> Xabster: software center >edit>software sources
[00:07] <TomyLobo> bkc_ should i try nvidia-experimental-304?
[00:07] <ikonia> why change if it's working
[00:07] <bkc_> TomyLobo: does the non-experimental work?
[00:07] <TomyLobo> cause i have no 3d acceleration?
[00:07] <ikonia> why break (potentially) something that you are working on ?
[00:07] <TomyLobo> "cogs" from the humble bundle doesn't work
[00:08] <Chartax> Nouveau is incompatible with my video card, it is a sorry state of affairs.
[00:08] <ikonia> I suspect it's not using the nvidia module then
[00:08] <Chartax> Makes installing Ubuntu kind of difficult
[00:08] <TomyLobo> Chartax text mode install :)
[00:08] <bkc_> TomyLobo: I currently use 304 without any problems on Arch Linux, and it's just a re-packaged nvidia-blob so I don't see how they could be different :)
[00:09] <bkc_> TomyLobo: If you need 304, shoot... if you're happy with ubuntu's "stable" then don't :)
[00:09] <TomyLobo> the thing is: supposedly there should be a "Restricted drivers available" popup
[00:09] <Xabster> hah, i changed to "main server" instead of "danish server" and now there's 178 updates and openjdk 7 is available
[00:09] <TomyLobo> but there was only one for my wireless
[00:09] <bkc_> Xabster: great, danish repo-mirror is probably down atm then :)
[00:10] <bkc_> TomyLobo: what gfx-card do you have?
[00:10] <TomyLobo> this laptop is pretty new too
[00:10] <TomyLobo> gt 630m
[00:10] <bkc_> what laptop?
[00:10] <TomyLobo> lenovo ideapad z580
[00:10] <bkc_> I'm guessing you also have an integrated intel gfx-card right?
[00:11] <TomyLobo> uhm
[00:11] <TomyLobo> possibly
[00:11] <TomyLobo> is that called UMA?
[00:11] <TomyLobo> i've seen that in the bios setup
[00:11] <bkc_> not that I know of...
[00:12] <bkc_> TomyLobo: you need bumblebee on that one :) Nvidia Optimus crap...
[00:12] <bkc_> TomyLobo: http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Linux-on-Lenovo-Z580-Anyone/td-p/799161 <-- read this one :)
[00:13] <TomyLobo> "The only proper solution is to have a BIOS option to disable Optimus and choose the dedicated card only."
[00:13] <TomyLobo> i might try that :)
[00:13] <psusi> is there a way to find out what process owns a window?
[00:13] <bkc_> psusi: yes :)
[00:13] <psusi> bkc_, go on?
[00:14] <spldart> I'm a debian head. I want to install something on a friends laptop that is much more simple and I'm told can really help for somebody that isn't compy savvy. Can Ubuntu be set not needing an account and password like an unsecured and very vulnerable XP install?
[00:14] <psusi> spldart, yes, you can enable auto login
[00:14] <ikonia> I've rarley seen someone try as hard to be cool
[00:14] <spldart> He just wants to turn it on and star browsing the web
[00:14] <dr_willis> spldart:  you can set auto login. but you still want a username/password
[00:14] <ikonia> spldart: you can do that on debian just fine
[00:14] <spldart> auto login... Something in the repos?
[00:14] <ikonia> spldart: as a debian head, I'm surprised you're not aware of that
[00:14] <dr_willis> spldart:  its a feature of lightdm
[00:15] <jrib> spldart: it's just an option for lightdm
[00:15] <psusi> something in the gnome control panel ;)
[00:15] <maslo> hi guys would anyone be able to tell me why I can't manage to do this math in a bash script  mbfree=$(($memfree*0.0009765625))
[00:15] <dr_willis> spldart:  or try some of the google-chromeos disrtos if thats all he needs.
[00:15] <maslo> says 970300*0.0009765625: syntax error: invalid arithmetic operator (error token is ".0009765625")
[00:15] <spldart> I'm more of a debian fluxbox and make it hard for anyone else use my machine kinda guy
[00:15] <ikonia> that dosn't make it hard
[00:15] <bkc_> spldart: you can turn off passwords for most stuff (except installing packages) :)
[00:15] <jrib> maslo: use spaces: $(( blah ))
[00:15] <maslo> jrib: hold on let me try
[00:15] <spldart> well.. he also wants to maybe skype or whatever too.
[00:15] <bkc_> psusi: working on it :)
[00:15] <psusi> bkc_, so *how* do you figure out what process owns a window?
[00:15] <psusi> hehe
[00:16] <psusi> I keep getting a frigging popup asking for my password randomly, and it's pissing me off to no end
[00:16] <spldart> I'm gonna hafta get a module loaded for the built in camera too.
[00:16] <dr_willis> spldart:  you may want to set up Lubuntu for him. its old skool look similer to old windows.
[00:16] <spldart> OHH
[00:16] <spldart> that sounds good
[00:16] <maslo> same error 970300*0.0009765625 : syntax error: invalid arithmetic operator (error token is ".0009765625 ")
[00:16] <bkc_> psusi: http://superuser.com/questions/251226/determine-which-process-belongs-to-which-window-in-linux-system-monitor
[00:16] <maslo> for dad=$(( $memfree*0.0009765625 ))
[00:16] <maslo> ;x
[00:16] <spldart> Old windows look will help ALOT!
[00:17] <spldart> He's like 55 years old and not part of the compy or game gen...
[00:17] <spldart> I'm 44 but have thrived on technology since I was a kid.
[00:17] <psusi> bkc_, nice... now is there a magic key to stop a damn window from locking the keyboard input focus? ;)
[00:17] <dr_willis> lubuntu us about as light and simple, yet with most features peoples need.
[00:17] <smj> can I turn font hinting off in NetBeans?
[00:17] <bkc_> maslo: bash can't handle float-point arithmetics, use calc or some other command-line calculator for that :) (or use zsh if you're pro ;P)
[00:17] <jrib> maslo: what's the "for" for... what are you trying to do ?
[00:18] <spldart> Though more electronics. I did some junior dev work and mentor'd google summer of code a couple years
[00:18] <bkc_> psusi: ... that is another question... that I actually don't know the answer too :P
[00:18] <spldart> Anywho... Thanks for the options! :)
[00:18] <maslo> doing a dynamic motd for a VPS with some basic info mem free is in kb and I want it in mb
[00:19] <jrib> maslo: oh right, I was testing in zsh.  Never mind then.
[00:19] <tom89> a little help on getting programs from cd
[00:19] <bkc_> maslo: sure, use mbfree=`calc $memfree*0.0009765625`
[00:19] <bkc_> maslo: also install calc :)
 Watch a low brow windows neophyte try to navigate fluxbox can be entertaining. Not that all windows heads are low brow... just say'n
[00:20] <maslo> bkc_: sounds good, trying it right away thank you I appreciate it :P
[00:20] <ikonia> spldart: stop spewing crap
[00:20] <spldart> But they tend to be more confy with kde or something
[00:20] <bkc_> maxb: no problem :)
[00:20] <spldart> what crap ikonia?
[00:20] <ikonia> everything
[00:20] <spldart> what everything
[00:21] <spldart> Lemme guess... Your the troll of the channel ;)
[00:21] <nicofs> I just installed Google Earth - but I can't see the maps. All is grey, with borders and labels on top. Any Ideas how to fix this?
[00:21] <tom89> once a month I get a magazine called Linuxuser it comes with a CD which has softwear on it how do I get to run on the pc?
[00:21] <bkc_> spldart: did you quote ikonia or was that just pointer at him/her? because <NICK> is considered a quote...
[00:21] <spldart> just did a ctrl c and paste cuz I wanted to talk at him
[00:22] <ikonia> bkc_: that certainly wasn't my quote
[00:22] <spldart> ah..
[00:22] <spldart> ok
[00:22] <bkc_> spldart: try <TAB>... it's awesome ;)
[00:22] <spldart> misunderstanding
[00:22] <spldart> I just did a highlight, copy, paste and then my statment to you
[00:22] <spldart> Not putting words in your mouth
[00:22] <spldart> sry
[00:22] <bkc_> on IRC it's NICK: NICK; or just plain NICK :)
[00:22] <spldart> hehe
[00:22] <spldart> k
[00:22] <spldart> anywho.. Thanks
[00:22] <spldart> !
[00:23] <spldart> You guys are more helpful than the folks on #debian
[00:23] <Random832> like i can type s<TAB> and it'll insert spldart:
[00:23] <spldart> woah
[00:23] <Fishscene> s<tab> is evil. Might want to type more of the name before autocompleting it. rofl
[00:23] <bkc_> it's called tab-completion, it's the future! :D
[00:24] <bkc_> *always* type 3 letters, then tab :P
[00:24] <TomyLobo> hmm, 304 didn't work either
[00:24] <spldart> Welp... I'm a fossil that is trying to keep up so yeah....
[00:24] <spldart> Thanks again!!!!!
[00:24] <spldart> XED
[00:24] <bkc_> (hence why my nick is so short... to mess with everyone :3)
[00:24] <TomyLobo> that is... i dont know if it was activated even
[00:24] <jrib> Fishscene: use a client that completes based on last talked ;)
[00:24] <TomyLobo> how do i check which one it tried to use?
[00:24] <bkc_> TomyLobo: what does nvidia-settings say? :)
[00:25] <TomyLobo> it says it cant find the driver again
[00:25] <bkc_> ＼(　*¯∇¯)ノ ☆ＦＡＢＵＬＯＵＳ～☆
[00:25] <jrib> oh dear
[00:25] <bkc_> ... wrong channel -.-
[00:25] <bkc_> but equally funny in this context too ^.^
[00:26] <fireglobe> hi, how to fix this please (The process owner Webshare (PHP) is: www-data)
[00:26] <bkc_> TomyLobo: okey... open up /var/log/Xorg.log in a text-editor of your choice :)
[00:26] <jrib> fireglobe: what is there to fix?
[00:26] <bkc_> jrib: I'm guessing he's trying to remove that directory...
[00:27] <fireglobe> I can not log in to my webshare
[00:27] <bkc_> ┬──┬╯︵ /(.□. \)
[00:27] <bkc_> ...not again... I need too change place on these two channels -.-
[00:27] <TomyLobo> bkc_ what am i looking for?
[00:27] <fireglobe> all configuration is ok except this message
[00:28] <bkc_> TomyLobo: search for "(EE)" (without quotes)... those are errors :)
[00:30] <fireglobe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361585/
[00:30] <TomyLaptop> Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[00:30] <TomyLobo> bkc_ ^
[00:31] <jrib> fireglobe: you need to give more context.  I don't see what the issue is with what you are pasting.  I also have no idea what you are doing to get that message.  Nor do I have any idea what you are logging into
[00:32] <bkc_> TomyLobo: anything else? seeing as you have interwebz on that machine you could paste the entire log on paste.ubuntu.com and I'll have a look :)
[00:32] <billybigrigger> is it possible for someone to help me out quick, my friend brought me a computer and his external hard disk, (his gf formatted the external with apple time machine) and i'm wondering if there's any ubuntu tools to recover the formatted windows partition?
[00:33] <hotsauce1> wewt
[00:33] <jrib> billybigrigger: plug it in, click on the partition in nautilus
[00:33] <escott> billybigrigger, probably not. you could try checkdisk
[00:33] <billybigrigger> is gparted's "Attempt Data Rescue.." going to cut it?
[00:33] <bkc_> billybigrigger: that depends
[00:33] <billybigrigger> well fdisk reports it can't read it because it's GPT
[00:33] <bkc_> has she overwritten anything?
[00:33] <escott> billybigrigger, or testdisk rather
[00:33] <fireglobe> i try to configure this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361590/
[00:33] <bkc_> use parted for GPT :)
[00:34] <billybigrigger> im in gparted
[00:34] <TomyLobo> sent it to you in a PM
[00:34] <billybigrigger> under Device i see "Attempt Data Rescue.."
[00:34] <billybigrigger> will that cut it?
[00:34] <escott> billybigrigger, i have no idea what that is. i would try testdisk
[00:35] <bkc_> billybigrigger: as I said, that depends :)
[00:35] <billybigrigger> so how does apple format?
[00:36] <Romulan> ikonia
[00:36] <Romulan> ikonia repond
[00:36] <ericab> can someone tell me why "echo 12345 | wc -m"  returns, "6" and not "5" ???!
[00:36] <escott> billybigrigger, hfs+
[00:36] <hotsauce1> noob question alert: How can I make sure all my hardware drivers are updated? (I am on Ubuntu 12.10 LTS) on a Dell laptop
[00:36] <escott> ericab, echo -n
[00:37] <ericab> hmm
[00:37] <Romulan> anyone?
[00:37] <ericab> ok thanks escott
[00:37] <billybigrigger> escott, k testdisk thinks is efi gpt, good or bad?
[00:37] <escott> billybigrigger, hard to say.
[00:38] <IdleOne> Romulan, can I help you?
[00:38] <Romulan> yeah
[00:38] <billybigrigger> ok, so what do i need to do?
[00:38] <Romulan> need help with eth0 config
[00:38] <ikonia> Romulan: you're using backtrack linux
[00:38] <bkc_> billybigrigger: that's good, now try "Attempt Data Rescue"
[00:38] <ericab> escott, if i were to say, do "cat file | wc -m
[00:38] <Romulan> ikonia
[00:38] <ericab> how would i do the same ?
[00:38] <ikonia> as I've told you earlier
[00:38] <ikonia> #backtrack-linux is the place to ask
[00:38] <IdleOne> !backtrack | Romulan
[00:39] <ericab> in other words use cat, instead of echo
[00:39] <Harpreet> Hi Guys, I am facing issue on my Ubuntu box with CIFS shared drive.
[00:39] <Romulan> That isnt responding!!!
[00:39] <ikonia> Romulan: that's not #ubuntu's problem
[00:39] <Harpreet> can anyone help please
[00:39] <escott> ericab, would it could whitespace and non-printing characters... yes
[00:39] <rypervenche> ericab: I would say to run "wc -m file" ^^
[00:39] <escott> ericab, s/could/count
[00:39] <Romulan> I've registered now! it says cannot send to channel! <over and out>
[00:40] <ikonia> Romulan: that's not ubunut's problem
[00:40] <ikonia> Romulan: if you read backtracks web site you'll see why
[00:40] <ericab> thanks escott and rypervenche
[00:40] <bkc_> Romulan: then ask in #freenode what you're doing wrong...
[00:41] <billybigrigger> bkc_, ok, i ran it, any idea how long this takes?
[00:41] <billybigrigger> err running it i should say
[00:41] <escott> billybigrigger, the partition table type shouldn't matter to data recovery. the unknown is if the data is recoverable
[00:41] <IdleOne> !identify | Romulan
[00:41] <gangimams> yes
[00:41] <bkc_> billybigrigger: no idea... depends on a gazillion different things :)
[00:42] <asdioh> what is this??? my email poped up in google inside some list of emails and cryptographed passwords, name of the list is some database leak of some unknown forum
[00:42] <Harpreet> The issue is that my CIFS drive times out after few hours, giving me error "Host is down" (when trying to access), but on second try (after this timeout) it start working again.
[00:43] <escott> !ot | asdioh
[00:43] <RomulanNero> yeah
[00:44] <escott> Harpreet, you might try some kind of cron job to put a heartbeat on the CIFS partition
[00:44] <Harpreet> escott: that is my last resort
[00:45] <Harpreet> escott: I was thinking of looking for genuine solution first, as I don't have any reason for why this should happen
[00:45] <escott> Harpreet, i imagine you and i have different attitudes with respect to duct-tape then :)
[00:45] <Harpreet> :-)
[00:46] <Harpreet> escott: to be precise , do you know any reason for idle time out on CIFS in Ubuntu
[00:47] <Harpreet> escott: I read one post that said to meke this chage "echo 0 > /proc/fs/cifs/OplockEnabled"
[00:47] <escott> Harpreet, these days with power management being such a common concern... lots of things. Wireless drivers going into low power mode, windows going into a low power mode, linux going into a low power mode
[00:47] <Harpreet> escott: as it said that it is getting locked
[00:47] <Harpreet> escott: but low power mode on a server class machine :-)
[00:48] <Harpreet> or in server setup
[00:48] <billybigrigger> bkc_, ok so how does gparted data recovery compare to some other "pro" recovery tools
[00:48] <bkc_> Harpreet: crappy drivers/implementation could be a possibility. like for instance a buffer-over/underflow, memory-leakage, etc.etc. :)
[00:48] <escott> Harpreet, could be anywhere. i dont really know
[00:48] <billybigrigger> ie the knoppix base recovery
[00:48] <billybigrigger> cant remember the name of it
[00:48] <bkc_> billybigrigger: about the same or better...
[00:49] <bkc_> knoppix base recovery uses gparted...
[00:49] <billybigrigger> ok, ill trust you :P
[00:49] <billybigrigger> k cool
[00:49] <billybigrigger> ill do some googling while i wait
[00:49] <escott> Harpreet, but i would think most servers would drop an inactive client after some configurable idle
[00:49] <Harpreet> escott: bkc_ thanks, but still would look for more specific answer, I can volunteer to be debugging hand, for any one who wants to try hands on this issue
[00:50] <Harpreet> escott: this is my first encounter, have dealt with many CISF on Ubuntu setup
[00:50] <bkc_> Harpreet: I'd file a bug-report at the guys who develop the cifs-implementation on linux, not here :)
[00:50] <bkc_> and give as much info and logs as possible (that are relevant)
[00:51] <Harpreet> bkc_: I think would have to do that, thanks a ton
[00:51] <billybigrigger> bkc_, is it normal to still be "searching for file systems on /dev/sdc"
[00:52] <bkc_> billybigrigger: As I said previously, it depends on a gazillion different things... it can take from a couple of minutes too a couple of days/weeks...
[00:52] <bkc_> (I'm not kidding... weeks...)
[00:52] <billybigrigger> what?
[00:52] <billybigrigger> but it says still searching for file systems
[00:52] <Kyle___> Hello?
[00:52] <billybigrigger> thats normal i guess?
[00:52] <escott> billybigrigger, and it has to read the entire disk to see if it can find any hint of one
[00:52] <bkc_> but for weeks we're talking about *huge* servers that are checked over a network-stream...
[00:53] <billybigrigger> oh you forgot to say that :P
[00:53] <escott> billybigrigger, i think NTFS keeps some structures at the end of the partition and maybe those werent overwritten by nfs+
[00:53] <bkc_> billybigrigger: yes, that's normal. and it's exactly like escott said :)
[00:53] <billybigrigger> only a 1tb external
[00:53] <bkc_> billybigrigger: and like I said, it depends on your setup...
[00:53] <escott> billybigrigger, when it has finished reading the entire disk it will let you know
[00:53] <billybigrigger> laptop with a usb2.0 disk :(
[00:54] <Kyle___> Excuse me, but do you think someone can give me a hand?
[00:54] <Kyle___> Please?
[00:55] <bkc_> billybigrigger: you also have too consider stull like poor usb-drivers, bad cables, crappy buffering, etc.etc.etc... :)
[00:55] <dd> Kyle_, just post your problem :)
[00:55] <billybigrigger> gpart is only using %13 cpu according to top, so i just want to make sure it's doing something if i let it sit here, my buddy is in from out of town so time is a factor here
[00:55] <billybigrigger> bkc_, i understand that
[00:56] <escott> billybigrigger, go out to dinner
[00:56] <bkc_> escott: +1
[00:56] <bkc_> 1TB will take a while... my internal PATA 40GB took ~1hour...
[00:57] <Kyle___> I'm trying to boot 12.10 from a flash drive, but the boot stops at [9.091596] [drm] radeon: ring at 0x00000000E0001000
[00:57] <bkc_> horay for amd! -.-
[00:57] <billybigrigger> escott, i was just gonna go ask if it was safe to have a beer and play a game of pool :P
[00:58] <billybigrigger> bkc_, escott thanks, if your around when im back ill probably ping :P
[00:58] <billybigrigger> cheers
[00:58] <escott> !nomodeset | Kyle__ you could try
[00:59] <Kyle___> Thanks!
[01:00] <bkc_> billybigrigger: just don't be supprised if it doesn't find anything thou... MBR->GPT and NTFS->whatever-apple-uses is quite destructive sometimes...
[01:00] <bkc_> it's still fixable sometimes...
[01:02] <tigrang> Is there any console utility to configure a network adapter (ex. set a static ip)?
[01:04] <dr_willis> nm-cli i belive
[01:04] <dr_willis> of the ifconfig tools
[01:04] <dr_willis> or ifconfig  ;)
[01:04] <ikonia> ip
[01:05] <ikonia> route add
[01:05] <dr_willis> or just that dhclient tool.
[01:05] <dr_willis> but that wont be static. unless the router/dhcp server does it that way
[01:12] <Kyle___> Ok, so I was able to fix my previous problem by using nomodeset, but now when I attempt to install to the hard drive, I get "I/O space for GPIO uninitialized"
[01:12] <theborger> what is going on with the downloads? i cant get 64bit to download at all. and the torrent says corrupt
[01:12] <eoss> why would the manual command not work
[01:13] <dr_willis> what manual command?
[01:13] <eoss>  manual apt-get
[01:13] <eoss> -bash: manual: command not found
[01:13] <dr_willis> its 'man'
[01:13] <eoss> which is short for manual
[01:13] <eoss> man apt-get
[01:13] <eoss> -bash: man: command not found
[01:13] <dr_willis> $ man
[01:13] <dr_willis> What manual page do you want?
[01:14] <dr_willis> $ which man
[01:14] <dr_willis> /usr/bin/man
[01:14] <eoss> i want the one that works when i install linux
[01:14] <ikonia> ubuntu comes with man pages
[01:14] <eoss> thats what i want
[01:14] <ikonia> so either you have a.) removed them b.) not installed ubuntu
[01:14] <eoss> ...
[01:14] <eoss> e0s@lagunesrevenge:~$ lsb_release -a
[01:14] <eoss> No LSB modules are available.
[01:14] <eoss> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[01:14] <eoss> Description:	Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS
[01:14] <eoss> Release:	10.04
[01:14] <FloodBot1> eoss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:14] <eoss> Codename:	lucid
[01:15] <dr_willis> or your PATH is all messed up
[01:15] <ikonia> that's a good "c"
[01:15] <Kyle___>  Ok, so I was able to fix my previous problem by using nomodeset, but now when I attempt to install to the hard drive, I get "I/O space for GPIO uninitialized"
[01:16] <escott> Kyle___ the kernel really doesn't like your hardware
[01:16] <theborger> anyone?
[01:16] <ikonia> anyone what ?
[01:16] <ikonia> what good is just saying "anyone"
[01:16] <theborger> what is going on with the downloads? i cant get 64bit to download at all. and the torrent says corrupt
[01:16] <Kyle___> Well the kernel is mean then -.-
[01:16] <guruguy> just installed 12.10 with a raid-10 configuration (4 hdd); can NOT get it to boot properly due to the apparently well known grub-probe (null volume) bug. what i have NOT seen is a solution.  any1 know if there is one yet?
[01:17] <ikonia> guruguy: is there a bug logged if it's that well known ?
[01:17] <guruguy> i've seen countless bugs logged both w/ debian & ubuntu
[01:17] <eoss> e0s@lagunesrevenge:~$ echo $SHELL
[01:17] <eoss> /bin/bash
[01:17] <eoss> e0s@lagunesrevenge:~$ echo $PATH
[01:17] <eoss> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[01:17] <eoss> e0s@lagunesrevenge:~$
[01:17] <FloodBot1> eoss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:17] <guruguy> i've seen patches posted, but no definitive resolutsions
[01:17] <ikonia> guruguy: ok - so what does those bugs say ?
[01:17] <ikonia> guruguy: (ubuntu bugs)
[01:17] <escott> guruguy, do you not have a /boot partition outside the array?
[01:18] <ikonia> only mirrors are supported for /boot
[01:18] <guruguy> i have my array setup w/ 6 separate raid paritions - including a separate /boot partition.
[01:18] <ikonia> guruguy: so the /boot partition is not on the raid 10 array ?
[01:19] <eoss> dr_willis: is my path not correct? where should the man page tool reside?
[01:19] <ikonia> raid 5 may actually be supported too for /boot
[01:19] <guruguy> ONLY MIRRORS SUPPORTED for /boot
[01:19] <dr_willis> /usr/bin/man
[01:19] <ikonia> guruguy: yeah, I've just said that, no need for caps
[01:19] <guruguy> ok - i was just VERY surprised to see that - i was not aware!
[01:19] <guruguy> my /boot IS in the raid 10 array
[01:19] <ikonia> guruguy: raid 5 may also be supported, I can't remember
[01:20] <eoss> dr_willis: yea, man isnt there...
[01:20] <naryfa> How can I diagnose the problem of websites loading only sometimes? Both in Firefox and Chrome.
[01:20] <dr_willis> sounds like you somehow removed it.
[01:20] <eoss> dr_willis: i should mention im running im guessing on a virtual ubuntu thats actually sitting on a redhat box
[01:20] <guruguy> however - i ALSO installed same config in a VM - WITH /boot IN array - and it works NP! ???? no idea why the difference
[01:20] <eoss> dr_willis: its on some vps
[01:21] <ikonia> guruguy: the disks work different in a vm
[01:21] <guruguy> grub-probe /dev/md1 on the  VM (partmap) returns gpt
[01:21] <eoss> e0s@lagunesrevenge:~$ cat /proc/version
[01:21] <eoss> Linux version 2.6.18-308.8.2.el5.028stab101.1 (root@rhel5-build-x64) (gcc version 4.1.2 20080704 (Red Hat 4.1.2-46)) #1 SMP Sun Jun 24 20:25:35 MSD 2012
[01:21] <eoss> e0s@lagunesrevenge:~$
[01:21] <ikonia> guruguy: what vm platform ?
[01:21] <guruguy> grub-probe <same> on baremetal - returns the infomus null-volume error
[01:21] <escott> guruguy, when you hand a VM an array it never sees the array
[01:21] <eoss> lsb-release says ubuntu
[01:21] <dr_willis> eoss:   You could have mentioned that earlier... sounds like they are not using a standard setup/install
[01:21] <ikonia> ahhh a VPS
[01:21] <ikonia> eoss: game over
[01:21] <guruguy> running vmware wkstn 8
[01:22] <ikonia> guruguy: so a.) look for a solution in the bug reports b.) contribute to the bug report
[01:22] <escott> guruguy, it sees a virtual disk which the host kernel maps to the array
[01:22] <ikonia> guruguy: so you've created a virtual md0 in the vmware guest ?
[01:22] <naryfa> anybody with network skills available?
[01:22] <ikonia> naryfa: ##networking is
[01:22] <guruguy> i have created md0, md1, md2 in the vm guest
[01:22] <theborger> anyone?
[01:22] <ikonia> theborger: saying anyone is totally pointless as I've stated earlier
[01:23] <naryfa> ok
[01:23] <blackbird34> Hi everyone, i' having real trouble booting my computer. I'm getting a "kernel panic not syncing out of memory and no killable processes"
[01:23] <guruguy> all are gpt, and in vm, have boot, root, and swap
[01:23] <theborger> what is going on with the downloads? i cant get 64bit to download at all. and the torrent says corrupt
[01:23] <escott> guruguy, why would you create mdadm devices in a guest? that makes no sense
[01:23] <dr_willis> theborger:  ive not heard of anyone else having similer problems.
[01:23] <theborger> ikonia: the downloads have all failed
[01:23] <ikonia> escott: I guess a test, even if it's invalid
[01:23] <KI4RO> When my system starts up I get an xubuntu screen that I don't want.  How do I stop it?
[01:23] <guruguy> did this in vm b/c my baremetal install is such a failure.
[01:23] <dr_willis> and torrents should be error checking  themeselfs
[01:23] <guruguy> needed to test the whole config; vm perfect for that
[01:24] <ikonia> guruguy: not the best test in this situation
[01:24] <ikonia> but not bad logic
[01:24] <guruguy> hmm why not best test?
[01:24] <ikonia> the disk mapping will work different
[01:24] <guruguy> hmm i'll have to think bout that....tx
[01:24] <blackbird34> @KI4RO you could maybe install another Desktop environment, or look at psychocats.net tutorial for eliminating every last bit of a given DE
[01:25] <ikonia> guruguy: how are you building the array, mdadm, or a hardware controller ?
[01:25] <ikonia> I'm guessing mdadm
[01:25] <guruguy> oh no - mdadm all-the-way!!!!
[01:25] <KI4RO> blackbird34: Hmmm thought I was running Unity on 12.10??
[01:25] <guruguy> (never hardware ROTF)
[01:26] <blackbird34> yeah sure but did you install XFCE at some point too?
[01:26] <KI4RO> blackbird34: Yes I did
[01:26] <ikonia> guruguy: what disk controller ?
[01:26] <guruguy> guess i'll try rm'g boot from the array, and see if i can at least get the sucker up
[01:26] <CarloSS88> exit
[01:26] <CarloSS88> jaja
[01:26] <guruguy> that may be a good Q - using dell t610 - which uses perc 6
[01:27] <guruguy> never fully trusted dell; as well as perc 6
[01:27] <KI4RO> blackbird34: I'll look at psychocats and see what I can do...thanks
[01:27] <billybigrigger> bkc_, escott is it safe to stop gparted's data recovery?
[01:27] <bkc_> billybigrigger: yes
[01:27] <billybigrigger> ie whats better gparted recover or testdisk?
[01:27] <escott> billybigrigger, presumably
[01:27] <ikonia> guruguy: is this box crash and burn ? or does it need to stay as it is ?
[01:27] <billybigrigger> bkc_, aware of any log i can tail -f to see any actual progress?
[01:28] <blackbird34> KI4RO well then, even if you removed it there might be bits of it left. Have you had ubuntu long? and have a look here http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu
[01:28] <guruguy> not crash & burn; but doesn't need to stay exactly as is either....
[01:28] <ikonia> guruguy: would you be interested in a test
[01:28] <guruguy> really do NOT want to re-partition whole - but don't mind if i gotta burn the boot part
[01:28] <ikonia> guruguy: make a 200mb partition on one disk, put /boot on that, (or use a seperate disk) and then leave the rest on raid 10 ?
[01:28] <xrfang> help: the startup application manager is missing from system menu, I am using 12.10
[01:29] <blackbird34> @KI4RO its a way of removing all the bits of (in your case) XFCE that you might have installed
[01:29] <KI4RO> blackbird34: Ok thanks
[01:29] <guruguy> yea i thought about that actually - and i have a VERY high expectation that it will work.
[01:29] <blackbird34> you're welcome
[01:29] <guruguy> i really wanted to solve this problem "cleanly"....
[01:29] <blackbird34> you don't know anything about kernl panics do you? ;)
[01:29] <guruguy> but maybe that's not possible
[01:29] <ikonia> guruguy: I suspect the perc device may have poor support in the initram
[01:30] <guruguy> i bet your right
[01:30] <guruguy> in retrospect.....
[01:30] <bkc_> billybigrigger: no logs, and I'm farily sure that gparted won't help (as the actual partition-info is probably overwritten). however there are applications (free & non-free) for retreiving different types of files (e.g. photos, music, etc.) but those take TIME too run through... especially on such a large disk :)
[01:31] <guruguy> the real truth is - i only installed ubuntu 12.10 b/c it has the v3 kernel - AFTER debian squeeze failed MISERABLY to even recognize the hdd's !!!!
[01:31] <guruguy> so again - there's another pointer to the perc
[01:32] <guruguy> knoppix live see's the hdd's; but i don't remember which kernl it's using
[01:32] <blackbird34> So anyway can anyne help me with a computer failing to bot and giving me a "kernel panic not syncing out of memory and no killable processes" message please? :)
[01:32] <ikonia> guruguy: but that's a livecd - in a full kernel
[01:32] <ikonia> guruguy: ubuntu will see the disks, but it's the pre-boot that's killing you (I think)
[01:33] <guruguy> true enuf....
[01:33] <Hatori> good morning
[01:34] <guruguy> i think i'll drop boot from raid, and just see if i can get the install up.... pretty sure that should work!  guess i'll worry about cleaning it up sometime after ubuntu addresses the grub-probe but - which apparently an issue only for separate /boot anyway
[01:34] <guruguy> although, i already tried joining boot to root, and no fix
[01:34] <ikonia> guruguy: I suspect it's an issue for non-seperate boot also
[01:35] <guruguy> LOL
[01:35] <ikonia> that is zero surprise
[01:35] <ikonia> as /boot the directory would still be on raid 10
[01:35] <guruguy> i read a reply to a bug that suggested that might work.... not... :/
[01:35] <ikonia> I doubt that very much
[01:36] <ikonia> although I'd like to look at what vmware is doing
[01:36] <guruguy> ok - well tx for letting me bounce idea's around - apprecaite it!
[01:36] <jaha> how can i control upstart jobs as a unprivileged user?
[01:36] <guruguy> i'm curious about vmware too... but i've burned way too much time chasing this already....
[01:36] <blackbird34> I've had this kernel panic problem on my triple boot system, and even the SuperGrubDisk and live USBs didn't work so i don't know what to do..
[01:40] <jagginess> blackbird34, ,boot-repair iso.
[01:41] <ClimXBlog> quit
[01:41] <blackbird34> Isn't that called SuperGrubDisk or something? I've got that on a cd, i've used it before jagginess
[01:41] <jagginess> you missed the slash noobie
[01:41] <blackbird34> huh?
[01:41] <jagginess> http://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/
[01:42] <blackbird34> thanks
[01:42] <jagginess> was talking to ClimX
[01:43] <jagginess> (try the latest, even if its included on other project isoz)
[01:48] <KI4RO> blackbird34: That did it...lost SMUXI too but that was easily re installed...obviously LOL  Sure a rather long command string!
[01:49] <blackbird34> KI4RO well yeah Psychocat just strung the names of everything in XFCE together and said "remove them"
[01:50] <KI4RO> blackbird34: Yes, it certainly did!  LOL
[01:50] <dr_willis> blackbird34:  there is a specfic 'boot-repair' live cd mentioned at the ubuntu boot-repair wiki page.
[01:51] <brophat> everytime the update manager includes kernel update i get errors cause of some driver stuff I tried to install a long time ago but no longer need
[01:52] <brophat> package rt3090-dkms 1:2.4.0.4-0ubuntu0-ppa0
[01:52] <blackbird34> dr_willis yes but you have to be booted up to use that, i've had it before. This time I can't boot Live USBs or my Linux OSs or a grub-repair CD
[01:52] <neil1234567890> Hi, i am looking for support on ubuntu windows, the windows are big on my screen i cannot see the bottom part on every window that pops out.
[01:52] <brophat> anyway I can just take that thing out, and why is update trying to install that?
[01:53] <dr_willis> use the package manager tools to remove the package and perhaps ppa-purge
[01:53] <brophat> the reason I ask is because that latest update is a kernel update
[01:53] <dr_willis> !ppa-purge
[01:54] <blackbird34> dr_willis i'm getting a message along th lines of "kernel panic not syncing out of memory and no killable processes", been looking on google, not found much...
[01:54] <Jordan_U> blackbird34: Have you run memtest?
[01:54] <dr_willis> first guess here would be some bad ram
[01:54] <blackbird34> ah, no, is there a wiki age to explain how it works?
[01:55] <neil1234567890> Hi, i am looking for support on ubuntu windows, the windows are big on my screen i cannot see the bottom part on every window that pops out.
[01:55] <ner0x> If I'm compiling my own ruby, where should I put it?
[01:56] <zvacet> blackbird34: reboot and from grub menu select memtest and run it
[01:56] <blackbird34> Jordan_U memtest doesn't show up on my grub, version 2.00 beta 4, not even under "advanced options" for any of my OSs
[01:56] <escott> ner0x, /usr/local
[01:57] <dr_willis> neil1234567890:  whats your screen resolution?  have you tested with a newly made user to see if its some setting issue?
[01:57] <ner0x> escott: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local   ?   How would I know what files to remove if I needed to remove it?
[01:57] <Jordan_U> blackbird34: That's odd, I thought that it was installed by default (it certainly used to be).
[01:57] <escott> !info checkinstall | ner0x also use this
[01:57] <neil1234567890> yeah i already did try it on another user
[01:57] <ner0x> escott: Thank you.
[01:58] <N56VZ> Hi, i have just broght an ASUS N56VZ and installed Ubuntu 12.10 on it. However the Fn+F5/F6 (which control the screen brightness) isn't working. Anyone know a fix for it?
[01:59] <neil1234567890> dr_willis my screen resolution is 1024x600 running on an ubuntu samsung netbook
[01:59] <srin> Hi. I was locked out of my root account and tried to reset it using recovery mode. However, I can't login to the root account still. it takes the password, but it won't go to the desktop. it just gos back to the login screen
[02:00] <escott> srin, you should not run a desktop as root
[02:00] <srin> I don't.
[02:00] <dr_willis> neil1234567890:  Yep.. thats going to be an issue with most apps expectng at least a 800 pixle tall screen
[02:00] <jgspratt> I had to switch a server's drives out from one server into another.  The destination server has a slightly different motherboard.  The OS booted, but lshw -C network shows that "*-network DISABLED" for both my ifaces.
[02:00] <srin> I normally use the user account. I needed to install updates.
[02:00] <jgspratt> What's the right way to re-enable networking on this box?
[02:00] <escott> !gksudo | srin
[02:01] <dr_willis> neil1234567890:  there used to be a way to have a larger virtual screen you could pan around. but i never did get it working on my little netbook.
[02:01] <kj4> is linux better than windows?
[02:01] <almoxarife> kj4: yes
[02:01] <escott> N56VZ, search on the forums for that model number
[02:01] <neil1234567890> so i just have to live with alt key+drag??
[02:01] <dr_willis> kj4:  totally depends on the  tasks you need to do.
[02:01] <dr_willis> neil1234567890:  or look into the paning feature.. but i never got that working
[02:02] <ner0x> escott: checkinstall is quite nice actually.
[02:02] <neil1234567890> where do i find that
[02:02] <dr_willis> panning  :)  its an old featre from years back. it may not even be in X any more.
[02:02] <brophat> where are packages downloaded to?
 where do i find that?
[02:02] <dr_willis> i never was able to get it going on my netbook neil1234567890 .
[02:02] <zvacet> kj4: what do you think why we are here
[02:03] <kj4> zvacet: because you work for linux
[02:03] <srin> ubottu: the issue is that the root account isn't accessible...
[02:03] <jgspratt> how can I re-install the networking driver for this linux?
[02:03] <srin> escott: ^ sorry, wrong person was highlighted
[02:03] <zvacet> kj4: no,because I enjoy running ubuntu
 so i just have to live with that, hehehe
[02:03] <escott> srin, you should not be trying to login as root anywhere. you will not get help for that in this channel
[02:04] <kj4> zvacet: you are the leader of ubuntu?
[02:04] <srin> rofl. not even to do updates? my user account isn't in the sudoers file.
[02:04] <zvacet> kj4: just user
[02:04] <srin> that's hilarious, thanks. I guess that's why most people use arch or debian.
[02:04] <blackbird34> kj4 no i am :)
[02:04] <LLStarks> hi, i can't edit settings in g-c-c anymore
[02:04] <chris__333> I need help please. I just installed ubuntu. For some disgusting reason I have a little video clip of a man wiggling his private part in circles round and round. I don't know how to remove it
[02:04] <LLStarks> any suggestions for how to fix this? i can't edit networks, printers, or any useful settings
[02:05] <LLStarks> can't unlock the dialogs either
[02:05] <kj4> blackbird34: thank you, nice to meet you.
[02:05] <escott> srin, then add it at the recovery console. usermod -a -G sudo username (for 12.10) usermode -a -G admin username for 12.04 and previous
[02:05] <LLStarks> it's greyed out
[02:05] <jrib> chris__333: please ask real support questions...
[02:05] <N56VZ> escott, i did ~ no solution found :<
[02:05] <blackbird34> joking kj4
[02:05] <blackbird34> chris__333 what on earth have you been doing??
[02:05] <defile> N56VZ, Ubuntu 12.04?
[02:05] <chris__333> jrib: I don't understand. What do you mean real support questions?
[02:05] <KI4RO> blackbird34: System seems a little quicker without XUBUNTU....many thanks for your help
[02:06] <chris__333> blackbird34: nothing. it's a new install 10 minutes ago
[02:06] <blackbird34> you're welcome KI4RO
[02:06] <kj4> chris__333: thats normal with the latest v of ubuntu
[02:06] <N56VZ> defile, 12.10
[02:06] <SierraAR> Can I ask a question regarding wine here or should I ask elsewhere?
[02:06] <chris__333> kj4: can i switch it to show a woman rather than a man? It's gross.
[02:07] <defile> N56VZ, It's possible you're getting hit with this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1030556
[02:07] <zvacet> !offtopic | kj4
[02:07] <kj4> chris__333: wouldn't that be grosser, if she had one, swinging it around?
[02:07] <blackbird34> chris__333 come on, did you do a search in the dash and get some results through amazon or the video lenses?
[02:07] <jrib> kj4, chris__333: stop now.  This channel is for legitimate support questions
[02:08] <chris__333> kj4: hahaha. well i'd prefer her boobies swinging around rather than some hairy man whiping it round and round. i'm getting dizzy!
[02:08] <esuave> anyone know how to boot single user mode on 8.04 without networking?
[02:08] <kj4> <--stopped
[02:08] <N56VZ> defile, yes ~ except i am on 12.10
[02:08] <dr_willis> esuave:  use the option 'single' to the grub kernel options instead of the default 'quiet splash'
[02:08] <SierraAR> Is there a way to disable the [alt] = open search menu, and get the alt key to open the file menu bar in wine like it normally does in windows?
[02:08] <esuave> single still starts networking htough
[02:09] <esuave> though*
[02:09] <dr_willis> SierraAR:  thats the 'HUD' and i do recall it being disabable-able.. but not sure how.
[02:09] <LLStarks> ???
[02:09] <dr_willis> esuave:  why does networking matter?
[02:09] <SierraAR> dr_willis, Disabable-able? Nice terminology xD. I'll go see if I can find anything now that I know what it's called
 with my windows issue are sayin' that it is normal for now???
[02:09] <esuave> cause its pulling an IP set statically thats already on the network and causing grief
[02:10] <esuave> dupe IP's
[02:10] <dr_willis> neil1234567890:  many apps are hardcoded/expect you to have a monitor of at least 800 pixles tall.
[02:10] <escott> esuave, scissors?
[02:10] <dr_willis> unplug the cable?
[02:10] <esuave> i just wanted to get into /etc/network/interfaces to change the dang IP
[02:10] <esuave> i would if i were next to the machine
[02:10] <esuave> or disable it at the switch.. if i had access
[02:11] <escott> esuave, so you want no networking... but you don't have physical access?
 so this things happens on netbooks.
[02:11] <SierraAR> dr_willis, looks like I found the answer to disabling the search menu thing here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/122209/how-do-i-modify-or-disable-the-huds-use-of-the-alt-key
[02:11] <esuave> escott: yep :/
[02:11] <dr_willis> neil1234567890:  with low res screens.. yes. One reason i got a better netbook
[02:11] <escott> esuave, what are you going to use to communicate with the machine then? telepathic powers?
[02:11] <dr_willis> SierraAR:  i like the hud ;) i dont want to disable it.
[02:11] <esuave> ilo
[02:11] <thanigaivel> The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv. any suggestions please.
[02:11] <almoxarife> esuave: sounds like you want to knock the comp off-line
[02:12] <esuave> I'm using iLO to access the machine
 but this is 1024x600 already
[02:12] <esuave> iLO has telepathic kvm powers built in
[02:12] <SierraAR> dr_willis, I personally see no point in using alt to bring up the search menu, when I can use the winkey to do the exact same, and I'm used to hitting [alt][l][h][h] in Notepad++ to quickchange the language scheme to html, or [alt][l][j] for javascript
[02:12] <SierraAR> xD
[02:12] <almoxarife> thanigaivel: how did you install vbox and which one?
[02:13] <dr_willis> SierraAR:   the winkey does not do the same thing.
[02:13] <tigrang> dr_willis, thanks
[02:13] <escott> esuave, so when the network comes up does it break the iLO connection?
[02:13] <fireglobe> Excuse me for disturbing you, and forgive me too if my English is not at ... I'm trying to configure owncloud, it uses a mysql database at first launch, I informed the administrator account and password, I see that owncloud adds the user to the table oc_users, but now when I run the page localhost / owncloud, I enter my username administrator refreshed the page and nothing happens
[02:13] <esuave> nope
[02:13] <SierraAR> dr_willis, whats the difference between the two? Does one search different areas then?
[02:13] <escott> esuave, you could maybe blacklist the network modules that would break it for you
[02:13] <dr_willis> the HUD lets you search/find menu items  in specific apps for one thing
[02:13] <thanigaivel> almoxarife: i have installed from ubuntu software centre
[02:14] <esuave> how can i do that in the kernel params?
[02:14] <dr_willis> SUPER key = the dash search for apps.  and lens, the HUD searches In the app for menu items and other things.
[02:14] <escott> esuave, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernel_modules#Using_kernel_command_line_2
[02:14] <almoxarife> thanigaivel: since the install, did you reboot? dont reboot if you have not
[02:15] <tigrang> dr_willis, doesn't seem ifconfig eth0 ###.###.###.### is permanant, I guess I'll just edit /etc/network/interfaces manually
[02:16] <dr_willis> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/ubuntus-hud-light-years-beyond-any-menu-system/3535
[02:16] <dr_willis> tigrang:  it wouldent be permenant.. correct.
[02:16] <SierraAR> Oo cool, I can have it mapped to right alt and left left alt unmapped
[02:16] <thanigaivel> almoxarife:  i installed windows xp and woks fine. after ubuntu  update showing like this issue.
[02:16] <SierraAR> s/left/leave
[02:17] <almoxarife> thanigaivel: did the update include a kernel update?
[02:18] <thanigaivel> almoxarife:  not kernal update.
[02:18] <jgspratt> ah: got it: it was that the OS had renamed the interface
[02:18] <jgspratt> from eth0 to eth2, because it didn't recognize the hardware addresses I guess
[02:20] <almoxarife> thanigaivel: couple of things, in terminal 'sudo apt-get install dkms' , if it says already installed then bug out
[02:20] <marun> Hi how do i run cron jobs configured my me on demand?
[02:21] <thanigaivel> almoxarife:  yes it says already installed
[02:21] <escott> marun, best practice is to have the job call a script. then you can manually call that script
[02:22] <escott> marun, your crontab should not have some complex bash -c "stuff" as the command. just a simple /path/to/script.sh
[02:22] <lonewlf> there was some enterprise level free backup software that made it onto slashdot recently... free as long as you were backing up to your own machines on your local network? does anyone remember this? I can't remember a name for the life of me...
[02:23] <almoxarife> thanigaivel: in terminal 'sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv' , does it complete without error?
[02:23] <Froward> ^‿^
[02:23] <escott> lonewlf, what more than rsync could you want?
[02:23] <thanigaivel> almoxarife: sudo: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: command not found
[02:24] <marun> escott: Okay. I though there could be some way to do it using run-parts.. Ok.. Let me modify my cron to a script :)
[02:24] <marun> *thought
[02:24] <escott> marun, there might be... but why read through pages of manuals for some odd debugging tool when you can directly call the script
[02:24] <almoxarife> thanigaivel:               sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv
[02:25] <escott> marun, the only reason not to do it that way would be if the clean environment provided by cron was important, but thats just a bug waiting to happen
[02:25] <marun> escott: gotcha!
[02:25] <thanigaivel> almoxarife: sudo: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: command not found
[02:27] <almoxarife> thanigaivel: http://askubuntu.com/questions/126175/virtualbox-doesnt-load-after-12-04-upgrade <-- does this match your situation?
[02:29] <almoxarife> thanigaivel: why are there colon(:) on your response line? those where not on terminal were they?
[02:36] <almoxarife> !ping
[02:38] <lonewlf> please don't look up my question anyone, I'm sorry I spammed it across the channels I was logged into.
[02:38] <gunarm1> i'm trying to use ddrescue off of a live iso (12.04.1) but it's not installed and the package (gddrescue) is not found in apt-get.  /etc/apt/sources.list only contains "precise" "precise-security" and "precise-updates" do I need to add another line to download gddrescue?
[02:38] <graft> hey guys, i have a CIFS mount that always gives me headaches... right now i can't mount it, and all of my mount.cifs processes from previous attempts are unkillable
[02:38] <graft> if kill -9 doesn't work, what do i do?
[02:40] <ikonia> graft: what processes ?
[02:40] <graft> ikonia: /sbin/mount.cifs
[02:40] <ikonia> graft: that's hanging around ?
[02:41] <graft> yeah... basically if i change my network connection or start/stop it, the share hangs, and now i cant umount/remount it
[02:41] <graft> and every attempt to mount it results in an unkillable process
[02:41] <ikonia> graft: you can't change your network connection while it's mounted, that will hang it
[02:42] <gunarm1> graft are you remembering to sudo the kill command?
[02:42] <ikonia> stale mounts
[02:42] <gunarm1> i usually kill through htop and often forgot to run it as sudo so that that actually works
[02:45] <a1g> I just built a time tracking application in pygtk it uses harvestapp.com api, if your interested, please check it out. https://github.com/aurorasoftware/TimeTracker-Linux
[02:46] <a1g> I'm looking to make it into a ubuntu deb package
[02:47] <a1g> there are screenshots in data/media directory too :)
[02:48] <Iorek> I just got this - should I be worried? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361745/
[02:49] <gunarm1> how do you enable universe in unity?
[02:49] <DaemonicApathy> The Update Manager has checkboxes for those settings, gunarm1.
[02:49] <thanigaivel> almoxarife: ttp://askubuntu.com/questions/126175/virtualbox-doesnt-load-after-12-04-upgrade  i followed this page. issue solved thank you almoxarife.
[02:50] <almoxarife> thanigaivel: cool :)
[02:52] <ner0x> escott: checkinstall supposed to take a very long time?
[02:52] <escott> ner0x, no
[02:52] <ner0x> escott: Interesting. This one is.
[02:52] <gunarm1> DaemonicApathy, but when I check them, it doesnt seem to make any changes in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:52] <ner0x> escott: Could be because it's on an ec2 server.
[02:52] <gunarm1> do I have to click an apply button somewhere?
[02:53] <dfgas-cr48> what package do i install for ccar
[02:53] <escott> ner0x, it shouldnt take much longer than a normal make install would
[02:53] <jaha> Question: any ideas on how to make sure NetworkManager indefinitely tries to reconnect wired/wifi and also verifies it can reach outside the local network?
[02:53] <gufcfan> hey guys... whoah there's a lot of people here
[02:53] <DaemonicApathy> gunarm1: it should ask you for the sudo password when you check one, and immediately apply the setting. Then, you can click Check in the main window.
[02:54] <jaha> ^ on 12.04
[02:54] <ner0x> escott: it sure is.
[02:55] <ner0x> escott: Going on a few minutes now.
[02:55] <Random832> so I heard CDE is open-source now
[02:55] <Random832> any plans on a cdubuntu?
[02:56] <DaemonicApathy> gunarm1: Of course, if you already know about accessing /etc/apt/sources.list , then you can just uncomment the universe entries, and save it.
[02:56] <zykotick9> Random832: using cde is like a timewarp back to the 80s
[02:56] <gufcfan> if it's ok, i have a quick question about creating a usb installer using pendrivelinux... is it going to format the usb drive to do it? im looking around for answers and not really finding anything. i get the feeling it will, which would be bad...
[02:56] <jagginess> gufcfan, it doesnt
[02:57] <jagginess> gufcfan, you have to format it manually-- make one partition on the usb-- as a fat32 , give it a letter drive, then start pendrive
[02:57] <zykotick9> gufcfan: assume it will.  backup any data, before starting!
[02:57] <gunarm1> DaemonicApathy, I am using a live iso, and it doesnt have anything commented like on a legit install.  I got it to accept the changes, but I still cannot install gddrescue maybe its in some other wierd repo
[02:57] <Random832> is there a howto for how to package something for ubuntu?
[02:57] <gufcfan> i am better not to do it right now, i can't back the data. thanks for that. a bit tired, should have realised that on my own. thanks
[02:58] <sven_> Random832, the easiest way would be checkinstall - but thats not the best way.
[02:58] <zykotick9> Random832: checkinstall does not produce packages suitable for distribution or ppas
[02:59] <trism> Random832: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/packaging-new-software.html also see the debian new maintainers guide
[03:00] <jagginess> gufcfan, if youre shopping for spare usb sticks, i'd suggest lexar , they work good for usb booting (not all of them do, it's always possible lexar doesnt work well for you-- the right stuff can be a pita)
[03:00] <DaemonicApathy> gunarm1: It's in Universe. If that's enabled, "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install ddrescue" should work for you.
[03:01] <Random832> where would be somewhere to post asking if anyone is interested on packaging cde for ubuntu
[03:01] <ansi_> please help please help.. my ubuntu12.04 dosent get past login screen.. please help someone
[03:01] <brayan> ??????????
[03:01] <jagginess> Random832, CDE is obsolete.. even solaris uses gnome
[03:01] <ner0x> escott: We're going on 10 minutes...
[03:02] <DaemonicApathy> brayan: That doesn't count as a question.
[03:02] <ansi_> i am presently loggger in from my other windows PC and chatting here
[03:02] <brayan> todos hablan ingles?
[03:02] <Random832> gnome sucks though
[03:02] <gufcfan> thanks jagginess, i don't know how to dm someone (or whatever you call it on irc). i was going to try and do it on an external seagate.in order to install it alongside windows 7 on an ageing computer. is this a bad idea?
[03:02] <zykotick9> Random832: i doubt anyone "really" wants the headache of packaging an out-dated DE for ubuntu any time soon.  perhaps as a joke, but i really don't see the point.  best of luck with cde.
[03:02] <DaemonicApathy> !es | brayan
[03:02] <ansi_>  please some one assist me.. i have been tryin to fix thiis for the past 4 days but couldnt.. please its a critical situaton..please help
[03:02] <jagginess> gufcfan, ?
[03:03] <jagginess> gufcfan, what are you trying to use pendrive for? (you're trying to make a usb installer?)
[03:03] <ansi_> please help please help.. my ubuntu12.04 dosent get past login screen.. please help someone
[03:04] <DaemonicApathy> ansi_: Do you have any details about what is happening? Asking repeatedly will not help you.
[03:04] <gufcfan> jagginess, i just want to do a windows 7 / 12.10 dual-boot
[03:05] <gufcfan> py
[03:05] <dr_willis> 'get past login screen' is vague. what does it do exactly
[03:05] <ansi_> i have also joined in as ansi12 from my ubuntu machine using the startx command but nothing seems to be wrking
[03:05] <ansi_> DaemonicApathy
[03:06] <DaemonicApathy> ansi_: Great! But can you describe what is happening when you try to log in?
[03:06] <marun> ansi_: try reinstalling ubuntu-desktop
[03:06] <gunarm1> ansi_, the probability of you getting a useful answer is directly proportionate to your skill at asking a question containing the necessary information
[03:06] <lonewulf85> I am running Ubuntu 12.04 X86_64 and I am having trouble installing the graphics driver.
[03:06] <marun> ansi_: aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop; aptitude install ubuntu-desktop; reboot
[03:06] <DaemonicApathy> Well said, gunarm1.
[03:06] <ansi_> DaemonicApathy earlier i tried to download a few things but later realized that there was no memory hence i couldnt login.. thine i read some forums that ctrl + alt+ f1 / f2 cam let u login thats wat i did
[03:07] <uabn93> hi my power supply is as loud as a leaf blower. Would it be okay if i just cut the fans out?
[03:07] <DaemonicApathy> ansi_: I suggest you backup your data with a liveCD/USB and reinstall Ubuntu.
[03:07] <dr_willis> downloading things dont take up memory. It ould take up disk space.
[03:07] <peterrooney> uabn93: ##hardware
[03:07] <DaemonicApathy> uabn93: Better to replace the power supply.
[03:08] <dr_willis> and you can jump to/from the console with alt-ctrl f1 through f6, F7 should get you back to the GUI
[03:08] <ansi_> i could login but nothing seems to be working
[03:08] <marun> ansi_: did you try reinstalling ubuntu-desktop?
[03:09] <uabn93> DaemonicApathy: it's been very difficult to determing how much power it needs.
[03:09] <almoxarife> ansi_: patebin /var/log/syslog
[03:09] <ansi_> marun i am just doing that i had also logged in as ansi12 from my ubuntu pc
[03:09] <DaemonicApathy> uabn93, may I pm you? This is a bit offtopic.
[03:09] <almoxarife> pastebin ansi_
[03:10] <uabn93> DaemonicApathy: It's okay. ill leave to #hardware.
[03:10] <zykotick9> marun: sidenote - your "aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop; aptitude install ubuntu-desktop; reboot" is pointless on gnu/linux 90+% of the time.
[03:10] <DaemonicApathy> Ok, good luck.
[03:10] <ansi_> almoxarife i cant see anything more than a folder on the desktop how do i open internetviewer
[03:10] <jagginess> gufcfan, you can choose the 'something else' when it comes to the partition-mapping with the ubuntu installer -- here's a hint http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqlc_5bqId8
[03:10] <ansi_> Stopping system V runlevel compatibility
[03:11] <almoxarife> ansi_: can you get to a terminal?
[03:11] <jagginess> gufcfan, (you can resize ntfs with gparted live cd)
[03:11] <ansi_> almoxarife i can get to the terminalyes
[03:11] <pythonirc101> How do I find out which package provides "picins.sty"?
[03:11] <escott> !find picins.sty
[03:11] <almoxarife> ansi_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit <-- in terminal
[03:11] <gufcfan> jagginess, am I making this more complicated than i need it to be? what about the windows installer?
[03:12] <escott> pythonirc101, doesn't seem to be there
[03:13] <jagginess> gufcfan, that's not a real linux install, though you can use it for "checking out" linux..  (reason is because a big "loopback" file sits on top of ntfs-- it's hard to resize space for linux or fix its bootloader in this "wubi" setup) -
[03:13] <DaemonicApathy> pythonirc101: LaTeX?
[03:13] <pythonirc101> yes
[03:13] <DaemonicApathy> pythonirc101: http://public.kitware.com/pipermail/igstk-developers/2008-December/001812.html
[03:13] <jagginess> gufcfan, ,if you're hardware is very fast that supports VT, perhaps you've heard of vbox
[03:13] <pythonirc101> I do have latex, but no picins
[03:13] <ansi_> almoxarife this is how i do it..i turn on my pc wait for the ubunutu login.. then enter the pass.. but it keeps getting back to the login screen and on the black screen i can barely get a glimpse of this written "Stopping system V runlevel compatibility" then i press ctrl+ alt+f1 and login with stop / start service loghtdm and  do a sudo startx and i am able to get just a blank desktop with a newfolder that i just created
[03:14] <lonewulf85> Having trouble installing radeon graphics driver.
[03:14] <zykotick9> pythonirc101: i'd guess apt-file might be able to help you.  if it was something you've installed from a package, then using "dpkg -S picins.sty" might tell you
[03:14] <almoxarife> gufcfan: nothing wrong with a wubi install of ubuntu, and its real ubuntu
[03:14] <reduz> hi guys help i upgraded ubuntu but initramfs doesn't work, new kernels don't work because missing initrd, only old kernels boot and even if i reinstall newer kernels or call update-initramfs nothing works. Any idea?
[03:14] <gufcfan> jagginess, my hardware is ancient. part of the reason  i am installing ubuntu again. i liked it when i used it years ago but never got any further into it than installing and browsing web, watching video etc.
[03:15] <jagginess> gufcfan, if its ancient then why do you meantion windows7 ?
[03:15] <almoxarife> ansi_: cool, you got it under control then
[03:15] <gufcfan> i have quite an old machinee here so is a wubi install more taxing than proper install?
[03:16] <ansi_> almoxarife i did sudo -apt get install but it says pastebinit is already the newest version
[03:16] <marun> ansi_: unity --reset
[03:16] <ansi_> almoxarife what next??
[03:16] <muji> hello fellas, anyone know how i may use my headphone controls on amarok?
[03:16]  * zykotick9 thinks "nothing wrong with a wubi install" is incorrect.  wubi does not seem to upgrade to newer versions very well, making them very temporary.  and making ubuntu rely on windows, is putting the horse before the cart
[03:16] <muji> im using the beats tour with the pause, play and all thhose buttons
[03:17] <almoxarife> gufcfan: the good thing is that the iso used by wubi you can use for the full install, so there is nothing to lose by the wubi if you chose
[03:17] <ansi_> almoxarife what next??  marun should i do that??
[03:17] <jagginess> gufcfan, i'd have no clue... actually.. it would probably be better to do non-wubi
[03:17] <gufcfan> i unfort lost my machines and other stuff in a fire and am using a piece of crap that was given to me which has windows 7 on it. it struggles with a few tabs open in chrome and doesn't like anything north of 240/360p video on youtube
[03:17] <jagginess> gufcfan, (the majority fo for non-wubi)
[03:17] <jagginess> gufcfan, (./go for
[03:18] <marun> ansi_: yeah, Most probably your unity is crashed/misconfigured. unity --reset will reset the settings
[03:18] <reduz> help I don't have initrd.img-3.5.0-18-generic for some reason, didn't get created when upgraded and can't boot, how do i generate it?
[03:19] <zykotick9> reduz: are you on an eufi system by chance?
[03:19] <ansi_> marun!!!!!!.. i think. the unity has cme back!!!!... yeah.. but wait.. the desktop is blank.. where are all my files.. i think ti sisi someother username??.. should i reboot ??.. i can see the unty side panel appearing though.. but the desktop is still empty
[03:19] <reduz> zykotick9, what's that? how do i find out?
[03:19] <marun> ansi_: give a reboot
[03:19] <almoxarife> zykotick9: the upgrade issue was something that one had to know the secret work-around, thats true, but for what it does, wubi is not a bad thing, i might never had converted to full blown linux had i not installed it first via wubi, some of us are/were scared to death to do anything that might kill windows without having a fall back,
[03:20] <ansi_> marun and here is the terminal still on.. should i still reboot???
[03:20] <ansi_> marun and here is the terminal still on.. should i still reboot???
[03:20] <zykotick9> reduz: you aren't then ;)  it's some new BIOS like thing.  i just saw someone mentioning issues with initrd not being created by grub on eufi system the other day.  different issue most likely.
[03:20] <marun> ansi_: yeah. Please reboot
[03:21] <reduz> zykotick9, update-initramfs does nothing at all
[03:21] <reduz> zykotick9, ignores all arguments
[03:21] <reduz> i think it broke
[03:21] <almoxarife> ansi_: so you want to share your syslog or rather not?
[03:21] <zykotick9> reduz: sorry man.  i've only personally ever had to mess with initrd on like 1 or 2 occassions and that's it.  i have no recollection of the processes involved.  best of luck!
[03:22] <reduz> oh wait, i found out what it happened
[03:22] <reduz> i have a
[03:22] <reduz> update-initramfs.distrib which works
[03:22] <cmoylan> Is this the best place to ask about grub boot errors?
[03:22] <reduz> what does it mean?
[03:22] <ansi_> marun no, i cant still logon normally.. the logon screen appears again and again
[03:23] <reduz> ok let's try
[03:23] <escott> ansi_, you might try a different session (unity-2d) or the like
[03:24] <cmoylan> Getting the "please close all package managers" thing when i run boot-repair
[03:24] <ansi_> marun no, i cant still logon normally.. the logon screen appears again and again
[03:24] <escott> !aptlock | cmoylan
[03:24] <almoxarife> cmoylan: probably have 'synaptic' open?
[03:25] <marun> ansi_: Ok, may be you should remove unity and install it again. I am not 100% sure if it works. But if I were you, I will do that. Please make a decision :)
[03:25] <KI4RO> So if I reboot from a terminal, it does...if I hit restart off the menu it goes to a black screen and sits
[03:26] <cmoylan> almoxarife: running off the live cd, installed boot-repair from terminal
[03:26] <ansi_> i am with u.. as long as i dont lose whats on my desktop!
[03:26] <ansi_> will that delete data???..
[03:27] <ansi_> marun will that delete data???..
[03:27] <escott> ansi_, have you tried the 2d session
[03:27] <escott> ansi_, and no people aren't suggesting things that would delete data. only deleting settings (like the pinned apps in the unity side menu)
[03:27] <marun> ansi_: If you are not sure, please backup your data to safe location from /home/<your username>/Desktop . It shouldn't cause any harm to data. But just in case
[03:27] <zykotick9> escott: is ansi_ using 12.04?  i don't think unity 2d exists in 12.10 does it?
[03:28] <ansi_> escott i did try all the sessions nothing permits me inside
[03:28] <escott> ansi_, all the sessions including?
[03:28] <viking667> hey all. Where has libqt4-multimedia gone to? I can't seem to find any mention of it.
[03:28] <ansi_> zytotick9 yes sir i am usning 12.04
[03:28] <escott> zykotick9, dunno i use gnome
[03:28] <kajahodka> how can i get to that part of disc where is windows? I have some files on desktop and I don't know how to get there from Ubuntu :(
[03:29] <ansi_> escott ubuntu 2d, gnome, kde, xfce, xubuntu, etc
[03:29] <escott> kajahodka, it should appear as a disk in nautilus. i think if you are using wubi you might not be able to access the windows partitoin. not sure of that
[03:29] <escott> ansi_, that is weird
[03:29] <almoxarife> kajahodka: a wubi install?
[03:29] <marun> kajahodka: ls /dev/disk/by-label/
[03:29] <escott> ansi_, does the guest session work?
[03:30] <viking667> escott: actually, I had an issue where exactly that was happening... Not sure how I fixed it now.
[03:30] <kajahodka> I'm using Ubuntu from USB
[03:30] <marun> kajahodka: then you can mount the partition to your fav directory
[03:30] <ansi_> the only thing that works is loggint in using ctrl + alt+ F2
[03:31] <kajahodka> I don't understand :D
[03:31] <viking667> kajahodka: as in, to the empty directory of your choice.
[03:31] <dr_willis> wubi installs mount the windows disk to some /host/ or other mountpoint i recall
[03:31] <ansi_> presently i am just struggling hard to get almoxarife the patebin /var/log/syslog file
[03:31] <almoxarife> dr_willis: its a usb boot something
[03:31] <viking667> I need to figure out how to get a particular program (and libraries) installed properly.
[03:31] <escott> ansi_, sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebin /var/log/syslog
[03:31] <ansi_> is there a way i can start crome or firefox from the terminal???
[03:31] <dr_willis> then either nautilus could auto-mount it, or you can try mounting it by hand,
[03:32] <dr_willis> ansi_:  'firefox' starts firefox..
[03:32] <almoxarife> ansi_: in terminal 'sudo pastebinit /var/log/syslog'
[03:32] <dr_willis> you may want to do 'firefox &'
[03:32] <almoxarife> ansi_: share the link
[03:32] <escott> dr_willis, he doesn't have a gui
[03:32] <dr_willis> then hes using the 'console' :)
[03:32] <jagginess> ansi_, things with the gnome settings break when you flipflop through unity<->non-unity-gnome desktops..
[03:32] <marun> ansi_: you said, you were able to open folder on your desktop. open the folder and navigate to /usr/bin/ and double click on firefox binary. Thats it
[03:33] <jagginess> ansi_, i personally just wipe out my .<gnome> directory (after i soon did a new install of ubuntu-- but you have to analyze your own case)
[03:33] <ansi_> SIRS  here it is.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361795/
[03:34] <ansi_> almoxarife   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361795/
[03:34] <ansi_> almoxarife   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361795/
[03:34] <_DanN_> where should link from /usr/include/linux point to ? or better - which package has content for this directory ?
[03:35] <almoxarife> ansi_: got it
[03:35] <th3pun15h3r> is there a gdm theme login manager for ubuntu?
[03:35] <ansi_> yeah.. thanks..
[03:35] <ansi_> oh god
[03:35] <kajahodka> this is the first day I'm using Ubuntu, and I STILL DON'T KNOW how to get to my files from windows :D I'm not good in computers so go slowly :P
[03:36] <th3pun15h3r> boot ubuntu as a live cd on that machine
[03:36] <steale> kajahodka, have you installed ubuntu on the same machine? eg dual boot?
[03:36] <DaemonicApathy> Interesting line from ansi_'s paste: "Your BIOS is broken; DMAR reported at address 0!"
[03:37] <th3pun15h3r> when you get the desktop up, click top left icon of the ubuntu symbol, type terminal, click the terminal icon, type in sudo nautilus, find your drive.
[03:37] <kajahodka> steale, i'm using ubuntu from USB
[03:37] <DaemonicApathy> kajahodka: Chances are you have your windows partition listed near the bottom of the dash panel on the left.
[03:37] <steale> Ahh, then follow what th3pun15h3r said and everything should be shiny :)
[03:37] <ansi_> Daemonic
[03:38] <kajahodka> DeamonicApathy, no it's not there..
[03:38] <javierf_> Hi! Is there a way to have wine 1.4 and 1.5 at the same time in the same ubuntu? I need to have installed 1.4, which works with crossover linux XI, but I saw some programs like photoshop are working with 1.5 and I would like to have it. So, is it possible? thanks!!
[03:38] <escott> DaemonicApathy, does that matter if he isn't using the iommu?
[03:38] <ansi_> DaemonicApathy i think the BIOS is just  okay as i just a few days ago upgraded it..and also that my dual boot win7 works pretty fine
[03:38] <DaemonicApathy> escott: No idea, I just figured I'd throw it out there so it wasn't missed.
[03:39] <escott> ansi_, can you do the same for /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:39] <th3pun15h3r> I used the crunchbang 9.04.01 install script on a minimal install of ubuntu 12.04 the only thing I havent figured out how to fix is to either add a background on the gdm login manager or to install either slim or lightdm login manager in its place to get rid of the stupid blue screen background
[03:39] <steale> javierf_, You should be able to compile both versions from source
[03:40] <DaemonicApathy> kajahodka: Try th3pun15h3r's suggestion. If you still don't see your Windows drive listed, you can try using the Disk Utility to make sure it's mounted.
[03:40] <javierf_> steale, I see. So compiling would be the only way. Let's say, if I already have 1.4 installed, I would download 1.5 source code and compile it and have both working
[03:41] <th3pun15h3r> ya gparted is a good idea
[03:41] <steale> kajahodka, run terminal and run the commands, mkdir /mnt/windows (or anything you would like eg /home/user/windows - whatever) then run fdisk -l and find the HDD name most likley /dev/sda1 then run the command sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /home/user/windows
[03:41] <th3pun15h3r> or the disk manager on ubuntu live cd as well
[03:41] <DaemonicApathy> I prefer that one for beginners, th3pun15h3r. gparted can get messy if you're not careful...
[03:42] <ansi_> escott this is for /varlog.syslog   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361795/ and this one is for /varlog.Xorg.0.log     http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361797
[03:42] <ansi_> escott this is for /varlog.syslog   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361795/ and this one is for /varlog.Xorg.0.log     http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361797
[03:42] <escott> ansi_, no need to repeat
[03:42] <th3pun15h3r> ya I forgot about disk manager just recently found out about that one I learned partitioning of linux with gparted
[03:42] <th3pun15h3r> and with pc repair at the shop i use to work ta
[03:44] <ansi_> problem is that i am not able to login with my regular user id.. the login screen keeps reappearing after i enter the password.. but i do get a glimpses of something that reads HWactivator and V runlevel compatibility
[03:44] <ansi_> DaemonicApathy i think the BIOS is just  okay as i just a few days ago upgraded it..and also that my dual boot win7 works pretty fine
[03:45] <zykotick9> steale: fdiskmustdie ;)  "parted -l" replaces "fdisk -l"  fdisk doesn't support gpt (replacement for msdos partitions, required for 2.XTB support.  and generally much nicer to work with, no limit on "primary" partitions :)
[03:46] <escott> ansi_, did you enable encrypted home?
[03:46] <ansi_> escott what does that mean???
[03:46] <aethero> Any good high-res screen recording software?
[03:47] <escott> ansi_, when you installed there was an option for an encrypted home. did you enable it. does "ls /home/username" show your files (replacing username with your username
[03:47] <ansi_> escott wait
[03:48] <escott> ansi_, although you are logged in at the console so im not sure what that means for ecryptfs
[03:48] <ansi_> escott it shows files
[03:48] <DaemonicApathy> aethero: There are a few options suggested in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613023
[03:48] <escott> ansi_, and "mount | grep ecr" does that show anything
[03:48] <almoxarife> ansi_: pastebinit /var/log/auth.log
[03:49] <ansi_> mount | grep ecr dosent show anything
[03:50] <Evil_Eric> ok guys im having a issue
[03:50] <escott> ansi_, in addition to /var/log/auth.log can you also "pastebinit ~/.xsession-errors"
[03:50] <ansi_> almoxarife  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361810/
[03:50] <ansi_> i am presently chatting from another machine..
[03:51] <ansi_> i am presently chating from another windows machine
[03:52] <Evil_Eric> i want to install DeVeDe but is says i must remove 3 file formats in order to install is there any way to install it and totally make the dependencies separate from this way they dont interfere with each other
[03:52] <javierf_> steale, why is it possible to install both from the source and not from the deb package?
[03:53] <WeThePeople> hi
[03:53] <th3pun15h3r> hihi
[03:53] <escott> almoxarife, i cant make sense of this "pam_succeed_if(lightdm:auth): requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user "ansi"" does that mean he is not allowed to login or that he is
[03:54] <steale> because when installing from the deb packages the package manager gets involved at starts dealing with dependencies and will try updating etc... if you are familiar with compiling from source etc it'll be simpler and probably more stable that trying to do it with .deb's if dpkg would even support 2 versions
[03:54] <rolling> !ops rolling is back
[03:54] <ansi12_> pastebinit /var/log/auth.log        http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361810/                pastebinit ~/.xsession-errors         http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361812/
[03:54] <almoxarife> escott: he is not in the group (ansi) ?
[03:55] <ansi_> almoxarife i am now also logged in from my ubuntu pc as ansi12 also
[03:55] <dougbb> I want to switch to gnupg2 and the gnupg2 agent ... is it safe for me to delete gnome-keyring, or is that needed under the hood by [x]ubuntu?
[03:55] <ansi12_> almoxarife i just pasted the xsession and the auth.log earlier
[03:56] <escott> ansi12_, i can see the problem now
[03:56] <ansi12_> oh ..please help me then
[03:56] <ansi12_> is there a way u can remote control?
[03:58] <escott> ansi12_, hmmm
[03:58] <escott> ansi12_, what does "whoami" say?
[03:58] <ansi12_> whoami
[03:58] <escott> ansi12_, its a command like pastebinit
[03:59] <ansi12_> root
[03:59] <escott> ansi12_, why are you root right now?
[04:00] <ansi12_> then how am i suppose to log in .. all i am doing is ctrl + alt+ f1 or f2 then  sudo startx
[04:00] <escott> ansi12_, maybe you ran "sudo -i" out of convenience
[04:00] <almoxarife> ansi12_: you are logging in with a root account? root has a password, right?
[04:00] <escott> ansi12_, that would have been helpful to know earlier :)
[04:00] <ansi12_> what does sudo -i do?
[04:00] <escott> ansi12_, i need to see /home/ansi/xsession-errors.log
[04:00] <ansi12_> yesalmoxarife
[04:01] <superfake123> I am about 10 seconds away from purchasing this laptop http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834131383&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10440897&PID=3891137&SID=rewrite does anyone know if I'll be able to install Ubuntu on it?
[04:01] <escott> ansi12_, ~ expands to your home I thought you were ansi, but you became /root with sudo -i... so thats confusing
[04:01] <almoxarife> ansi12_: but you dont have the password to 'ansi' , right?
[04:02] <D-coy> :]
[04:02] <ansi12_> almoxarife no i have the password.. what do u mean?
[04:03] <escott> superfake123, questions would be related to the network cards, but intel chips and intel graphics should be well supported
[04:03] <ansi12_> escott when i do pastebinit /home/ansi/xsession-errors.log it says Unable to read from: /home/ansi/xsession-errors.log
[04:03] <jagginess> superfake123, i'm guessing you like will be able to, even if its uefi
[04:04] <jagginess> superfake123, (./likely)
[04:04] <escott> ansi12_, "ls -l /home/ansi | pastebinit"
[04:04] <superfake123> ok thanks guys!
[04:04] <reduz> hi guys help, i managed to get inird generated again, but when booting the latest kernel (3.5) I get an initramfs prompt complaining that it gave up waiting for the hard drive (using a previous kernel, 3.2 works fine). Any ideas?
[04:04] <jagginess> superfake123, however the support for the trackpad and touhscreen are likely not supported :)
[04:05] <ikonia> reduz: where did you get that kernel ?
[04:05] <ansi12_> escott http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361830/
[04:05] <ansi12_> almoxarife??
[04:06] <nicekiwi> can you force fullscreen apps to run in windowed mode with commandline params?
[04:06] <ansi12_> almoxarife i know the password.. and thats how i have logged in to this session
[04:06] <escott> ansi12_, sorry my typo "pastebinit /home/ansi/.xsession-errors"
[04:07] <reduz> ikonia, it's the ubuntu 12.10 kernel, i can't get it to work after i upgraded from 12.04
[04:07] <ikonia> reduz: why did you re-generate the initramfs ?
[04:07] <ansi12_> escott http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361833/
[04:07] <jagginess> nicekiwi, i tend to use workspaces with keyboard shortcuts.. it's much easier
[04:07] <ansi12_> escott http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361833/
[04:07] <nicekiwi> jagginess, explain..
[04:08] <reduz> ikonia, after upgrade, initrd was not generated anymore because for some reason update-initramfs was empty and some update-initramfs.distrib was there instead.  Probably a bug in the ubuntu update process
[04:08] <jagginess> nicekiwi, you should  know.. since you're already asking a cli question :)
[04:08] <escott> ansi12_, aggh this is why you dont run sudo startx. its probably your XAUTHORITY file.
[04:08] <ikonia> reduz: don't think so
[04:08] <ikonia> sounds like your upgrade hasn't worked
[04:09] <escott> ansi12_, try "ls -al /home/ansi | grep root" and any files you see there owned by root probably need to be removed
[04:09] <nicekiwi> jagginess, ur answer makes sense assuming the shortcuts work and assuming the app dosnt resize ur screen res..
[04:09] <ansi12_> like delete??
[04:09] <jagginess> reduz, you should try to type apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade,
[04:09] <reduz> ikonia, jagginess  well, I didn't do anything weird or tinkered with anything while upgrading and it seems to have completed, so I assume it is a bug
[04:10] <ikonia> reduz: not seen anyone else reporting it, it maybe worth you checking on launchpad.net
[04:10] <ansi12_> escott ls -al /home/ansi | grep root
[04:10] <ansi12_> drwxr-xr-x   3 root root     4096 Mar 26  2012 ..
[04:10] <ansi12_> -rw-------   1 root root      100 Nov 16 00:20 .Xauthority
[04:10] <ansi12_> -rw-------   1 root root   504987 Nov 16 09:16 .xsession-errors
[04:10] <FloodBot1> ansi12_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:10] <reduz> ikonia, i did see people reporting it on older ubuntu versions
[04:10] <ikonia> never seen it, check for bug reports
[04:10] <escott> !gksudo | ansi12_ in the future don't use sudo startx or sudo gui
[04:10] <ansi12_> escott what do i do now?
[04:11] <wantsfish> Does Chrome browser work for Ubuntu 12.10  64bit?
[04:11] <ikonia> looks to me like the upgrade didn't complete, so it didn't move the new file into place
[04:11] <escott> ansi12_, rm /home/ansi/.Xauthority /home/ansi/.xsession-errors
[04:11] <ansi12_> escott did it now what??
[04:12] <ansi12_> should i reboot now??
[04:12] <escott> ansi12_, ctrl-alt-f7 and see if you can login
[04:12] <reduz> ikonia, in any case, i fixed that by following instructions from this post - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11557028
[04:12] <melvincv> hi, what is the easiest way to change the default entry in GRUB menu? I'm still struggling with GRUB 2. The legacy version was much simpler. Now I need to do that without adding a PPA. Preferably without any extra software
[04:13] <ansi_> no cant login and as soon as i did ctrl +alt f7 i can only see blackscreen
[04:13] <reduz> ikonia, but now the kernel wont boot, it can't find the hard drive device by uuid and i don't know where to configure that. older kernel works fine
[04:13] <chaingun> melvincv: look for update-grub or something like that
[04:13] <ansi_> excott no cant login and as soon as i did ctrl +alt f7 i can only see blackscreen
[04:13] <zykotick9> melvincv: edit /etc/default/grub then run "sudo update-grub", then reboot for many of the options
[04:13] <ansi_> escott no cant login and as soon as i did ctrl +alt f7 i can only see blackscreen
[04:13] <chaingun> you don;t have to manually change anything, it auto-detects
[04:14] <ansi_> not thereis nothing ctrl+alt+f7  =  black screen with text and ctrl +alt+f1 black screen
[04:14] <escott> ansi_, ok then i guess reboot and try and login normally
[04:14] <melvincv> zykotick9: what should I edit? I have GRUB_DEFAULT=saved now. But I'm not sure how that works.
[04:14] <zykotick9> melvincv: what do you want to do?
[04:15] <melvincv> set Windows 7 as the default OS for now.
[04:15] <ansi_> escott doing it
[04:16] <reduz> i have no way to fix this myself, since grub 2 does not have menu.lst anymore
[04:16] <melvincv> why is that so hard? I also tried update-grub and grub-set-default. Not working.
[04:16] <escott> reduz, its /boot/grub/grub.cfg now
[04:17] <holyguyver> I think a sector on my internal hard drive just went bad. I just lost over 80% of my data files including config files for many of my programs. On the plus side I had 98% of it backed up. On the bad side, I am wondering how I can temperarily restore my drive. I am trying to use command line tools but they are not working for me. Any GUI tools for it?
[04:17] <melvincv> I'd like to edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg directly.
[04:18] <reduz> escott, that file is like reading chinese to me
[04:18] <escott> holyguyver, put it in the freezer
[04:18] <ikonia> melvincv: what's stopping you
[04:18] <escott> reduz, really its almost identical to menu.lst
[04:18] <melvincv> And block update-grub from updating that file
[04:18] <holyguyver> escott, how, it is an internal hard drive inside of a desktop
[04:18] <ansi_> escott!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!... i am back in!!!!!!! :D thankyou thankyou!!!... ure the man!!
[04:18] <escott> holyguyver, phillips head screwdriver
[04:19] <ansi_> wow!!!!.. ure a hero!!
[04:19] <melvincv> maybe rename update-grub?
[04:19] <escott> !gksudo | ansi_ this is really important so remember it
[04:19] <holyguyver> escott: I would rather not go around removing hard drives
[04:19] <escott> holyguyver, if its failing mechanically there isn't anything in software that will fix it
[04:20] <ansi_> escott!! can u please give me the knowledge of what had happened?? and what do do in such situations.. pardon me.. but i am fairly ignarant and have very less knwledge of linux and ubuntu
[04:20] <holyguyver> Esa_: I know, but there are commandline recovery tools that sya they help with bad sectors, so I was wondering if there are any GUI front ends
[04:21] <holyguyver> shit I meant escott
[04:22] <ansi_> escott!! can u please give me the knowledge of what had happened?? and what do do in such situations.. pardon me.. but i am fairly ignarant and have very less knwledge of linux and ubuntu
[04:22] <escott> ansi_, XAuthority is a file that controls who has permission to draw to the screen. without the contents of the XAuthority file you cannot draw to the screen. you ran a gui application with sudo which saw that the XAuthority file it was looking at was not owned by root and said "well thats not secure" and changed the ownership of it to root.
[04:23] <melvincv> (newbies don't try this) Ok, so I will be editing grub.cfg and renaming update-grub. Hope I don't break my system. And I should remember to restore it before a kernel update. Right?
[04:23] <escott> ansi_, which is all well and good except that the Xauthority it was looking at was /home/ansi/.Xauthority locking you out of your own gui
[04:23] <escott> holyguyver, never heard or a command line tool to deal with bad sectors
[04:24] <ansi_> and then now u asked me to remove the file right??
[04:24] <holyguyver> escott:  Okay, thanks for trying to help
[04:25] <escott> ansi_, so it could generate a new one with correct permissions
[04:25] <javierf_> Hi! to compile a program I need to run "./configure prefix=/path/to/install/directory && make". If I'm in downloads folder, how to write the path? absolute way?
[04:25] <OerHeks> melvincv, to backup: cp /boot/grub/grub.cf /boot/grub/grub.cf.bak
[04:25] <escott> javierf_, first check if the program is in apt. there should be a -- before the "prefix", and finally use checkinstall instead of make install
[04:26] <escott> javierf_, and yes absolute paths
[04:26] <OerHeks> melvincv, oops i missed the g.
[04:26] <melvincv> holyguyver: there is a command line tool, but it should be run ONLY from the live cd. $ sudo e2fsck -c <device file>
[04:27] <javierf_> escott, thing is, it's wine when I already have another version installed. So, I need to use prefix to set a different directory. But I can't run the command even using absolute directories, keep saying that the folder can't be found
[04:27] <melvincv> OerHeks: thanks, but I was asking if I could rename update-grub :)
[04:27] <holyguyver> meLon: what will that do?
[04:27] <holyguyver> melvincv:
[04:27] <escott> javierf_, you may need to make the folder or something
[04:28] <ansi_> thanks a TON Escott!!!!!! ur ethe MAN!!.... thanks a lot for helping me!!.. please.. if all u are listening!!.. escott is a HERO!!!.. a really helpful person who just helped a stranger !!!!!!
[04:28] <melvincv> holyguyver: that should not be run on a mounted partition. So you asked me something?
[04:28] <escott> ansi_, this is actually a really easy thing to fix once i found out you were running sudo startx
[04:28] <holyguyver> melvincv: what does that command do?
[04:29] <javierf_> escott, but I already did that. I placed a folder called .wine1510 inside my home folder, and wrote the command like this: "javier@javier:~/Descargas/wine-1.5.10$ ./configure --prefix=home/javier/.wine1510 &&make" (being javier my user name)
[04:29] <OerHeks> melvincv, sure, but then upgrade cannot find grub.cfg to edit, and reboot get stuck too
[04:29] <escott> javierf_, /home not home
[04:30] <ansi12> escott it would've been easy for you but it was like a life saver for me..! thanks man!!!
[04:30] <javierf_> escott, no luck, also tried that...
[04:30] <escott> holyguyver, man e2fsck | grep -C5 -- -c
[04:30] <holyguyver> melvincv: I am currently using the command line programs of RecoverDM, ExtUndelete, & Foremost
[04:30] <ansi12> i'll remember that.
[04:30] <escott> holyguyver, and not something you should be doing... if the disk is going bad turn it into a necklace don't try and salvage the good parts of it
[04:30] <ansi_> letme reloginback and see
[04:30] <javierf_> escott, this is what i get: "bash: ./configure: the file or the directory don't exist"
[04:31] <escott> javierf_, are you in the folder where you unpacked the source
[04:31] <melvincv> holyguyver: that checks for bad blocks and adds them to the bad blocks inode. But I'm not sure if the info stays if the drive is formatted :(
[04:31] <escott> melvincv, no it would not
[04:31] <holyguyver> melvincv: It doesnt
[04:31] <t_> Is there a Que system for asking for help?
[04:31] <javierf_> escott, yes, I am. But I will make sure again, often this kind of thing have at the end a stupid explanation
[04:31] <escott> t_ no
[04:31] <holyguyver> melvincv: I have been a linux user since 2003, I know enough to know how formatting works
[04:32] <gunarm1> is ddrescue of any use for an SSD with bad blocks?
[04:32] <escott> javierf_, it could be an autotools autoconf program. perhaps they didn't ship a ./configure
[04:32] <escott> gunarm1, sure
[04:33] <escott> gunarm1, in some sense no
[04:33] <superfake123> what is the 'current' best setup for ssd? I read i should not use discard and just do fstrim once a day?
[04:33] <escott> gunarm1, if the ssd doesn't show a block it will never find it because the ssd doesn't give access to the raw storage, but you can dd the remaining blocks the ssd knows about
[04:33] <melvincv> Oh, too bad. I ran that command on an old HDD that had bad blocks. Maybe just use it without reformatting? :)
[04:34] <t_> Ok so I have been unable to create a network share folder using ubuntu. It will let me right click and share the folder but then when I try to open it with another pc it tells me that it is unable to mount. So then I shared a folder outside of my home folder and it worked. So I'm wondering, is Ubuntu unable to share a folder within a Encrypted home folder?
[04:34] <gunarm1> escott, I was just wondering if ddrescue algorithms worked on  SSD and not just magnetic drives
[04:34] <melvincv> holyguyver: I respect that. I'm a user since 2008.
[04:34] <escott> gunarm1, i dont know what algorithms there are. you read the data and leave holes where you cant get a good read
[04:34] <gunarm1> i see
[04:35] <escott> t_, yes. (unless you are logged in at that particular momen)
[04:36] <t_> Hum.. it was logged in and still wouldn't mount, interesting.
[04:36] <t_> But I'll try creating a folder outside of my home folder for the sake of sharing that.
[04:37] <escott> t_, if they are smart about it they will disable sharing within the ecryptfs just to avoid confusion when people are logged out (because most will test when they are logged in and be very angry to find out its not working when they are in hawaii)
[04:37] <what_if> I need autoconf 2.64 on my system, but 2.68 will not uninstall. All sorts of intersting errors. Ideas?
[04:38] <escott> what_if, you should be able to install multiple versions of autotools
[04:38] <what_if> escott: hmm, brb
[04:39] <holyguyver> melvincv: I at least know enough that when someone gives me a commandline command in this room, I know enough to ask "& what does that do?" before using that ;) otherwisew people tell you to delete "/" :p
[04:40] <jmfurlott> Anyone installed 12.10 on Mac with any luck?
[04:40] <domain_> here is a rather simple question: can i install different distro's to a removable 1tb HD? (without format?) is it as simple as shrinking and resizing and creating extended partitions with custom partition table?
[04:41] <escott> domain_, maybe. if your bios supports it
[04:41] <melvincv> holyguyver: :) very good to have an understanding about the command. I appreciate that.
[04:42] <marun> I want to mount nfs shares from my nfs-kernel-server (ubuntu) on windows. How do i do that? when i type \\IP_Address, it is not showing the mounts
[04:42] <domain_> escott, my bios WILL allow me... after the new partition, i need TWO data tables for /home and /boot correct?
[04:43] <melvincv> holyguyver: In fact, I mentioned a command, but that's not the first step. You might have noticed. If you just run e2fsck -c it will print a message only :)
[04:43] <escott> domain_, if your bios does support it then treat is as if it were a normal internal disk
[04:44] <marun> anyone faced same issue?
[04:44] <polarbear> when i click start on virtualbox,  that have rainbow screen,   not loading windows,  what's this?
[04:44] <BronzeTotte> I’m a newbie to Linux.  I need help installing my printer which is Samsung CLX-3185.  Ubuntu 12.10 does not have the right drivers.  I, therefore, have downloaded the following from Samsung’s website: PrintSettingUtility, Smartpanel and UnifiedLinuxDriver.  I have been unsuccessful in installing these drivers in Ubuntu 12.10.  What should I do?  Anyone able to give me a helping hand?
[04:45] <marun> help please!
[04:45] <lolcat> BronzeTotte: follow the readme
[04:45] <escott> marun, you need an nfs client for windows. make the unix services thing from microsoft will offer that
[04:45] <Mayazcherquoi> Hmm
[04:45] <melvincv> ***Safety and security of all users first, for all the people I help. But I'm not perfect. So, always better to cross check with some documentation before running a command.
[04:45] <Mayazcherquoi> Where is the cheapest place to buy a .com domain name?
[04:45] <domain_> escott, dumb question but will it install to a logical partition?
[04:46] <escott> domain_, sure linux doesn't care
[04:46] <BronzeTotte> I've tried following the readme, but without success.
[04:46] <marun> escott: let me check. thnx
[04:46] <escott> !samba | marun alternately use:
[04:47] <domain_> escott, sry buggin you... last question.. is there a quicker way to create a new partition than GPARTED? is has to read the 1TB is 4MB blocks before moving... which takes 9hrs... is there a quicker way??
[04:47] <melvincv> exit
[04:47] <escott> domain_, huh?
[04:48] <marun> thank you guys :)
[04:49] <domain_> escott, in order to create a new partition on my external it needs to"shrink and resize" the 1TB... before it does this process it "reads" the drive in 4MB blocks
[04:49] <domain_> escott, it takes forever
[04:49] <escott> domain_, if you have to shrink the partition thats just how long its going to take
[04:50] <domain_> escott, damn... ok.... thank you
[04:50] <escott> domain_, its often faster for large and relatively empty drives to copy the data off, then create new tables and move it back
[04:52] <domain_> escott, i was thinking the same thing but it's 700GB of existing data and no where else to drop it... i will just wait for the shrink
[04:52] <escott> domain_, then the resize is faster. the resize will move ~300GB copying off and back is 1400GB
[04:52] <BronzeTotte> Has anyone successfully installed a Samsung CLX-3185 printer in Ubuntu 12.10?
[04:53] <gunarm1> man, escott, trying to run ddrescue on this 60G SSD and getting errorsize=9223 PB, that cant be good
[04:53] <gunarm1> lol
[04:53] <escott> gunarm1, i've heard SSD's do that... start reporting they are a lot bigger or smaller than they really are
[04:54] <escott> gunarm1, http://blog.valerieaurora.org/2008/09/13/to-ssd-or-not-to-ssd/
[04:55] <escott> gunarm1, our could probably have an SSD that reports infinite size if one of the block mappings points back on itself
[04:56] <what_if> escott: multuple versions installed. Assumed they would conflict... thanks :)
[04:56] <escott> what_if, no autotools is built for that usecase
[04:56] <escott> what_if, developers tend not to like being unable to compile their program because a dependency is slow to upgrade their version of autotools
[04:57] <ses1984> i'm trying to install over a network. i'm at the step "choose a mirror of the ubuntu archive" and i want to select my own url,
[04:57] <what_if> escott: yeah, we have a defined environment /build server at work, at home.. I am on my own. Thanks again
[04:57] <ses1984> this guide says i should be able to do that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet
[04:57] <ses1984> but there doesn't seem to be a way to do that, i can just choose us.archive.ubuntu.com or go back
[05:00] <gunarm1> do you think I should just l let it continue? I know it can take days,
[05:00] <gunarm1> escott
[05:01] <escott> gunarm1, well now that its started it would be a really bad idea to stop it
[05:01] <gunarm1> escott, also, i thought SSD's had gotten better recently... this is the first one I ever tried
[05:01] <escott> gunarm1, sorry
[05:01] <gunarm1> heh
[05:01] <escott> confused your question for another one
[05:01] <gunarm1> ah
[05:02] <escott> ssd's are they better... maybe, but you can't change the underlying fact that its a firmware filesystem
[05:02] <b0w> hello! how can i reboot ubuntu 12.10 on recoveyr mode or someway so i can access system config/BIOS/UEFI?
[05:02] <eric94> how do you get online games to play after you download them
[05:02] <escott> b0w, "reboot"
[05:03] <almoxarife> ses1984: you dont have the option 'enter manually'?
[05:03] <ses1984> nope
[05:03] <b0w> escott, uh? seriously?
[05:04] <jagginess> eric94, i thought the bottom mouse button starts games
[05:04] <eric94> how do you get shaiya to play on linix it keeps saying somthing is missing
[05:04] <jagginess> eric94, the button is in near/ the laser point, if you just look right there :) zzzzzapp!!
[05:04] <gunarm1> man I thought I was behind the times by having all these hdds, wouldn't you know I would go out on a limb and try to get hip on my server os drive hosting my 10TB raid array and headless deluge webclient which was super hard to set up
[05:04] <gunarm1> but thanks escott, ill let it run
[05:05] <escott> b0w, if you are at the console thats how you reboot
[05:05] <ses1984> i've tried expert install in order to manually select a mirror, and it gave me more options but still didn't let me enter a url
[05:05] <escott> gunarm1, i really wish they sold consumer level raw NAND
[05:06] <ses1984> it asks me for the protocol, then country, then gives me a mirror
[05:06] <BronzeTotte> Anyone know anything about Samsung CLX-3185?
[05:06] <escott> ses1984, you could modify the iso to include your url
[05:06] <ses1984> ahh i see in the country list at the very top i can enter manually.
[05:06] <ms_> hello hello!!!!
[05:07] <Malaise> Greetings
[05:08] <ms_> I need some help please!!!
[05:09] <ms_> so that. is here a channel that can help me to improve my English?????
[05:09] <jagginess> ms_, try rosetta software
[05:09] <jagginess> lol
[05:09] <escott> !alis | ms_
[05:09] <jagginess> ms_, (it works under wine)
[05:10] <domain_> ms_, English Language packs are available through your repo (lol)
[05:10] <goldy2425> hi
[05:10] <dfgas-cr48> where does php-pear install to?
[05:12] <domain_> anyone here like xubuntu?
[05:12] <topper4125> dfgas-cr48, /home/"username"/pear
[05:12] <ms_> for all: ok thanks
[05:13] <BronzeTotte> Quit
[05:14] <topper4125> domain_, I don't really care for the xubuntu distro, but I do use XFCE in place of unity.
[05:16] <KM0201> no real difference topophil1
[05:16] <KM0201> oops  topper4125
[05:17] <topper4125> KM0201, Gedit instead of leafpad, Nautilus instead of Thunar, a few differfences that with a regular Ubuntu install means I don't have to bother with the whole install/uninstall process... but other than that... ya, no real difference.
[05:18] <gh403> So I'm doing execl("/bin/bash", "bash", "/tmp/script"); right?
[05:18] <gh403> And the script executes fine.  But when I run my program as root, the script doesn't inherit root as far as I can tell.  What gives?
[05:23] <jagginess> gh403, users are allowed to write in ~ and /tmp , /tmp has a special chmod (1777)
[05:24] <jagginess> topper4125, you can also use the 'mate desktop' and gnome-classic in ubuntu
[05:26] <topper4125> jagginess, yup :) I have a bunch of DE's installed, but of all of them, XFCE is my fav... was the easiest to tweak for my style of use, and seems to be the fastest for my 'lil atom processor.
[05:26] <eric94> -f
[05:27] <jagginess> topper4125, yeah for notebook power, gnome is a real power sucker with its effects on
[05:28] <topper4125> jagginess, for this system, using KDE is like dumping syrup on the motherboard lol
[05:29] <eric94> -n
[05:30] <topper4125> <-- has a single core 1.66 atom processor, 1 Gig DDR 3, on board Intel graphics, the smaller footprint the DE has (While still being functional with my style of use) the better.
[05:30] <KM0201> topper4125: i meant, no real difference in using xfce on Ubuntu, rather than usinb Xubuntu(the distro)... it's the same thing.
[05:30] <brandinhess> hi
[05:31] <jagginess> topper4125, also the chrome browser set to ram cache only saves power
[05:31] <KM0201> of course I know there's differences between Unity/Gnome and Xfce
[05:32] <Tempus_Fugit> hello all I need some help, I can login as guest running 12.04 however if I try to login as a user on my system it only loads my wallpaper however nothing else shows up, everything is still here its like the gui is not loading I have gone into recovery and ran low graphics mode and it seems to all work however when i login normal I can get any gui to load up? any ideas before I try to backup my files and reload the whole OS?
[05:32] <gh403> jagginess: I see, thanks.
[05:33] <ses1984> i'm trying to enter my own mirror during an ubuntu installation, and it keeps saying bad archive mirror.
[05:33] <jagginess> I use " exec -a "$0" "$HERE/chrome" " --disk-cache-dir=/dev/shm/$USER " "$@"         "   (without the surround first and last quotation marks)   i replace the last line of /opt/google/chrome/google-chrome       , if anyone is interested
[05:33] <ses1984> when i put the hostname in, as the name or ip, without a trailing slash, and i check the logs, it's trying to wget files from "hostnamedirname" without a slash in between.
[05:34] <ses1984> so i try to re-enter the hostname with a trailing slash, and go through the menu, and it says bad archive mirror again, but in the log it didn't try to wget anything
[05:34] <Tempus_Fugit> from recovery root shell how do I copy each users home folder to the external F: drive?
[05:34] <escott> Tempus_Fugit, try unity --reset
[05:35] <LLStarks> how do i unbuntu myself?
[05:35] <Tempus_Fugit> escott: from root shell?
[05:35] <escott> Tempus_Fugit, no
[05:35] <Tempus_Fugit> escott: ok how?
[05:35] <topper4125> ya... the underpinnings are identical, the only real differences really are superficial, like some of the pre-installed packages, which have nothing to do with the DE, just ghat for the utilities I like to run, some/most of them come with the Ubuntu Distro, with xubuntu, I have to do a 'small' bit of tweaking to get them. (like Nautilus vs Thunar)... other than 'utilities' they are the same platform.
[05:36] <escott> Tempus_Fugit, best to do this from the console. boot up. ctrl-alt-f1
[05:37] <Tempus_Fugit> escott: login as myself then when I get nothing but wallpaper and no unity or dock then try the ctrl-alt-f1?
[05:37] <escott> Tempus_Fugit, yep. then export DISPLAY=:0 and try the unity --reset
[05:37] <escott> Tempus_Fugit, then sudo service lightdm restart and see if that makes things better
[05:38] <escott> Tempus_Fugit, or run unity --reset from the low graphics mode
[05:38] <escott> that may be easier for you
[05:38] <Tempus_Fugit> escott: ok thank you will try that then ill be back
[05:41] <eric94> hely
[05:42] <sathish> Hi, when I close the my laptop lid and open it after some time, screen becomes non-responsive, mouse cursor moves but everything else is freezed how do I correct that?
[05:42] <djjeff> im running quantal 12.10 with gnome-panel (gnome session fallback) how do I get a taskbar like windows with icon only window list?
[05:42] <escott> !reisub | sathish then check the /var/log/dmesg.log
[05:43] <sathish> I can drop into CLI by ctrl+alt+f2 but I don't what process to restart.
[05:44] <sathish> escott: is there anyway I can restart any particular process and get it working again, without restarting the whole thing?
[05:44] <escott> sathish, well you can check dmesg there. you can also try and restart the gui service with "service lightdm restart"
[05:45] <sathish> escott: me is not nerdy enuf to understand those logs :(
[05:46] <escott> sathish, you can pastebinit to us
[05:46] <topper4125> djjeff, install the Talika gnome panel applet, it displays icons only, no window names.
[05:46] <Makkusu> entify dball99
[05:46] <grendal_prime> so for some reason now when i shutmy laptop all the way down
[05:46] <djjeff> topper4125: talika isnt supported on quantal
[05:47] <topper4125> djjeff, really??? suprised to read that.
[05:47] <djjeff> I have used talika on 10.04
[05:47] <grendal_prime> and bring it back up it gives me a message about waiting another 60 seconds for the network to start?  then when the desktop finally does come up i have to wait another 60 seconds for the wireless to start working
[05:47] <escott> !info pastebinit | sathish
[05:47] <grendal_prime> wtf is that all about?
[05:48] <grendal_prime> ive see that happen when there is some crazy stuff in the interfaces file (aparently network-manager is not a big fan of that now
[05:48] <grendal_prime> but the only thing i have in there is an auto up for eth0  and i thought that nm put that in there
[05:48] <sathish> escott: thanks a ton "sudo service lightdm restart" worked great, now pastebining /var/log/dmesg since I don't have /var/log/dmesg.log file :)
[05:49] <escott> sathish, sounds like everything is working except something with X
[05:49] <escott> sathish, maye you are running nvidia or amd proprietary drivers
[05:50] <djjeff> I love linux and ubuntu for some reason I see myself STUCK with microsoft for games cause of " DIRECT X 11 "
[05:50] <Evil_Eric> escott good work with helping out sathish i been lurking reading this one cause it happens from time to time with me also
[05:50] <jagginess> grendal_prime, you shouldnt touch the interfaces file, unless you completely disable networkmanager, or if you have network-manager configured not to touch interfaces defined configured by the interfaces file
[05:50] <jagginess> grendal_prime, (man NetworkManager.conf<enter> shows the manual page)
[05:51] <sathish> escott: when I cat dmesg file, It showed something about Optimus chip, If I remember correctly that was the reason linus raised his finger recently :D
[05:51] <escott> sathish, yeah
[05:51] <jagginess> grendal_prime, there's alot of outdated documentation out there.. there's acutally cli command for nm (nmcli, nm<tab><tab>)
[05:51] <jagginess> grendal_prime, i was in your place a few years ago..
[05:51] <jagginess> grendal_prime, takes time to get used to
[05:52] <escott> jagginess, i always had the impression nmcli was only useful for bringing up defined profiles not for creating profiles
[05:53] <topper4125> djjeff, DockbarX is simular to Talika, from what I just read Talika isn't supported anymore :o
[05:53] <djjeff> topper4125 I have dockbarx installed it is nice
[05:53] <djjeff> just doesnt interact well with gnome panel
[05:53] <djjeff> or havent found a way to add gnome menu to dockbarx
[05:54] <djjeff> honestly.... I hate unity
[05:55] <topper4125> ya... me too, that's why I moved to XFCE (has icon only built it btw).
[05:55] <sathish> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1361925/ this is the dmesg file :)
[05:56] <djjeff> my friends are telling me to switch to linux mint with xfce
[05:56] <topper4125> *... built IN
[05:56] <djjeff> I might try linux mint in a VM first
[05:56] <escott> sathish, im not going to have much to say about it if you are using prop drivers. i thought it was freezing not that the gui wasnt restarting correctly
[05:57] <Guest44330> I have dual boot window and ubuntu. From Yesterday  ubuntu is not showing window c  partition. How to get it back
[05:57] <topper4125> Mint isn't bad... almost went with it back when I was 'Distro-shopping' they put a lot of work in their distro
[05:58] <Guest44330> Any Idea, Any One ?
[05:58] <sathish> escott: I'm not using any prop drivers I guess, but anyway your earlier sugesstion to restart lightdm is good enough for me, just pasted the log, just so u know. Thanks a lot. Have a great day :)
[05:58] <jagginess> topper4125,  not really.. they use repositories from debian and ubuntu
[05:58] <jagginess> topper4125,  ( i tested their latest mate 13, the developers forgot to include the latest keyrings with it)
[05:58] <escott> sathish, if you aren't using prop its a little strange why it wouldnt come back correctly. intel should be well supported, but optimus may throw a wrench in things
[05:59] <escott> Guest44330, does it not show in os-prober
[05:59] <holstein> Guest44330: ubuntu wont show C:... it'll show the windows partition... it'll show up like a USB stick does in the filemanager
[05:59] <jagginess> topper4125,  (mate desktop is available on ubuntu)
[05:59] <Evil_Eric> so far ubuntu is the only linux os that actually shows the amd admin panel gui when i click it the rest wont even bring up the enter password to acc the catalyst gui
[06:00] <Guest44330> escott: Yes
[06:00] <beyxia> hello
[06:00] <Guest44330> escott:  I think i have to install ntfs-config ?
[06:00] <Evil_Eric> but then again this laptop isnt made for linux either (or at least componet wise isnt very linux friendly )
[06:01] <topper4125> I'm having a weird problem with keyrings on my other netbook, the dialog to enter root password keeps poppiing up for some unknown reason, and it doesn't tell me what app/process is asking for it.
[06:01] <holstein> Guest44330: are you trying to boot windows? or mount the windows partition from inside ubuntu?
[06:01] <jhansonxi> Evil_Eric: There is a bug in the script that affects Xfce: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1019023
[06:01] <Garybomb> Hi
[06:01] <escott> !info ntfs-3g | Guest44330
[06:02] <Evil_Eric> jhansonxi oh i dint know that thanks for the info ill read on it now
[06:02] <Guest44330> holstein: Actullay Ubuntu is showing the partition created in window but now it is not showing the window partitoin created in ntfs
[06:02] <jhansonxi> Evil_Eric: That script seems a bit weak and may have trouble determining what sudo front-end to use with your distros.
[06:04] <torphiqua> hi
[06:04] <jagginess> hi
[06:04] <holstein> Guest44330: just keep elaborating for the volunteers here.. "now", as in, it used to? what is "it".. maybe output 'sudo fdisk -l' in pastebin for reference
[06:04] <torphiqua> can u help me a
[06:04] <jagginess> !ask
[06:04] <escott> holstein, uggggghhhh fdisk must die
[06:04] <Evil_Eric> jhansonxi i dont have the issue with this right now but now i wanna try mint for awhile but i dont wanna dump my computer and start over ive put to much work into the gui
[06:05] <torphiqua> i want to help ubuntu developers and become one of them
[06:05] <torphiqua> so can u tell me the steps
[06:05] <escott> torphiqua, launchpad.net
[06:06] <torphiqua> yeah i ve looked there but which specifies should i have?
[06:06] <ikonia> if you can't read the documentation on how to contribute to ubuntu - your chances of being able to contribute ids zero
[06:06] <ikonia> !contribute | torphiqua
[06:06] <KM0201> ikonia: lol, so harsh, but so true.
[06:06] <ikonia> "contribute | torphiqua
[06:07] <holstein> torphiqua: maybe look for a team to join.. one that you can help with to get experience
[06:07] <holstein> torphiqua: bugs always need attention..
[06:07] <jagginess> first he has to make an account.. he hasn't even read up on how to do that.. so yes.. your chances of contributing starts with bug reporting..
[06:14] <food1> My cursor is just annoying . I don't know why it just goes too faster suddenly. For example when i am reading PDF book and scroll down to the next pages using mouse's wheel.  But it suddenly go much faster.
[06:15] <food1> I don't know what is the problem
[06:16] <grendal_prime> does anyone use kazam screen caster?
[06:16] <food1> Anyone can help me please?
[06:16] <grendal_prime> im having problems with it just...bailing out and not doing anything
[06:16] <grendal_prime> food1,  whats the problem?
[06:18] <food1> grendal_prime, Suddenly cursor go faster such as on Firefox and when reading pdf books
[06:20] <jmfurlott> I just installed 12.10.  My wifi says connected but I am getting no internet?
[06:20] <Melvin> who's here?
[06:21] <food1> jmfurlott, It happen for me but sometime reconnect works
[06:22] <Melvin> can someone help me out with configuring ethernwt on my lenovo G580??/
[06:22] <Melvin> I'm on backtrack. but the config goes the same for ubuntu and BT. so help please!
[06:23] <purpleguy> what are you trying to configure it to do?
[06:23] <Melvin> enable my LAN adapter!
[06:23] <OerHeks> Melvin, you have been told where to go for backtrack, it is not supported here.
[06:24] <jmfurlott> food1, even after a reboot, it doesn't work
[06:26] <jmfurlott> food1, just kidding <3
[06:26] <OerHeks> jmfurlott can you ping a website? or use 216.239.51.99 directly for google?
[06:27] <jmfurlott> OerHeks, its working.  I tried pinging too but it looks like a reboot fixed it
[06:27] <jmfurlott> OerHeks, well at 25 kb/s which is weird
[06:28] <OerHeks> jmfurlott, if ping works, it is a DNS issue
[06:28] <jmfurlott> OerHeks, pinging did not
[06:38] <c0d3br3ak3r> how can i disable auto-login from command line ?
[06:40] <ikonia> sop
[06:42] <OerHeks> c0d3br3ak3r, i think you can edit etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[06:43] <c0d3br3ak3r> will it work on kde ?
[06:43] <c0d3br3ak3r> i am using kde on that system
[06:44] <morphias> where can i get help on releasing a program into a pre-existing repo or my own?
[06:45] <ikonia> morphias: what help do you need ?
[06:45] <morphias> i just wrote my first linux app in QT and I want to know how to publish it somewhere for other people to download.
[06:46] <ikonia> morphias: package it into a deb (do you know how to do that ?) and then host it in a repo or a PPA ?
[06:46] <ikonia> last melvin
[06:46] <ikonia> oops
[06:46] <jmfurlott> OerHeks, wait you're right
[06:46] <morphias> ikonia, i dont know how to package things into a deb but then i need to figure out how to host it (yes)
[06:47] <jmfurlott> OerHeks, I lost internet again even though it says I am connected.  It pings google with the address you gave me though and then loops into "From 10.0.1.1 icmp_seq=xx Destination net unreachable"
[06:47] <ikonia> !packaging | morphias
[06:47] <dragonfly> hey guys, can anybody help with downgrading from 12.10 to 12.04 ?
[06:47] <ikonia> dragonfly: can't do it
[06:48] <dragonfly> ikonia: Quantal is so buggy and running very slow
[06:48] <ikonia> ok
[06:48] <dragonfly> ikonia: any way I can go back to precise without losing my data ?
[06:49] <domain_> dragonfly: why downgrade?
[06:49] <ikonia> dragonfly: back up your data, re-install, restore your data
[06:49] <dragonfly> domain_ : Because its too buggy and slow
[06:49] <dragonfly> ikonia: is it safe to backup the data from encrypted home directory and then restore back ?
[06:50] <ikonia> dragonfly: yes
[06:52] <J11_> if a user gets removed, do the processes get killed too?
[06:52] <topper4125> dragonfly, you could do a fresh install of 12.04 and keep the data in your /home directory if you select manual partitioning and select the currently used partition(s) but NOT format them. however some of the config files for the apps you alreasy used with 12.10 may have overwritten their config files with a newer version which is incompatitible with the older apps coming in with 12.04. that may lead to problems with those apps.
[06:52] <dragonfly> ikonia: Alright, I'll do this today, By the way, is there any estimated figure you can provide about normal booting time of a fresh installation of Ubuntu ? I am running it on a core i7 processor with 10 GB of RAM and it takes about 5 minutes to boot up
[06:52] <ikonia> no
[06:52] <ikonia> certainly quicker than 5 minutes
[06:52] <ikonia> dragonfly: suggestion, don't use encyption unless you have a genuine need
[06:53] <dragonfly> topper4125: I have a couple of partitions encrypted, does that matters anyhow ?
[06:53] <J11_> I used to have a student shell account, seems irssi still runs in screen
[06:53] <dragonfly> ikonia: any way to safely remove the encryption ?
[06:54] <ikonia> dragonfly: do it when you re-install
[06:56] <jagginess> dragonfly, shouldnt take no more than 30-45 seconds
[06:56] <jmfurlott> Anyone know why a ping would connect but then return a "Destination Net Unreachable" error?
[06:56]  * jagginess accidentally used a double negative
[06:56] <dragonfly> ikonia: but the home directory is already encrypted on Quantal, what if I just reinstall the Precise ? Will I lose the partition or it will ask me for key to unlock the partition ?
[06:57] <ikonia> dragonfly: you can unlock it
[06:57] <jagginess> jmfurlott, traceroute may say where the problem is
[06:57] <ikonia> dragonfly: I'd suggest backing up the data a.) to be safe b.) remove the encuption
[06:57] <topper4125> dragonfly, to be honest, I don't play with encrypted drives... like ikonia said, only use them if you have a genuine need, can't honestly say what would happen.
[06:58] <dragonfly> ikonia: OK, thanks
[06:58] <topper4125> if possible, burn what you can of /home to a dvd, thumbdrives, whatever you can find, and hope for the best, that's about all I can tell ya for clawing back to 12.04
[06:58] <jmfurlott> jagginess, how does tracenet work?
[06:58] <jmfurlott> traceroute*
[06:58] <arunkumar413> how to share laptop wireless  internet with other computer over ethernet
[06:59] <IdleOne> !ics
[07:00] <dragonfly> topper4125: I have some genuine reasons thats why I put up the encryption on drive, anyway, I am looking for a way to remove the encryption now, maybe google can help
[07:04] <john_rambo> I want to save/copy  a flash video. I am using FF. WHat is the path to cache?
[07:05] <EdLin> john_rambo, that varies, it's random for security purposes.
[07:05] <EdLin> john_rambo, you should instead get a Firefox extension that'll do it for you.
[07:06] <john_rambo> EdLin, Okay
[07:09] <topper4125> keepvid.com does a pretty good job of allowing you to download hosted video, from a number of sites, and various formats (Great for youtube and vimeo)
[07:14] <jmfurlott> Is vesa the best driver I could be using for a Radeon 4xxx? No way?
[07:16] <KM0201> jmfurlott: does it work?
[07:16] <KM0201> or are you having problems with it?
[07:17] <jmfurlott> KM0201, Unity's pretty painful and I can't play youtube a full screen
[07:17] <KM0201> you can try installing hte ATI driver.... i don't have a lot of experience with it though
[07:17] <KM0201> !ati
[07:17] <KM0201> it may not even support one of hte 4x cards by now
[07:18] <denisympa> why modify deplacer vers
[07:20] <denisympa> help for modify menu "move to"
[07:20] <jmfurlott> KM0201, what kernel is 12.10? 3.4?
[07:20] <bazhang> !info linux | jmfurlott
[07:20] <KM0201> jmfurlott: dunno, i had probs w/ 12.10, didn't feel like messing with it.. so i just went back to 12.04
[07:21] <KM0201> in 12.10, i didn't like how everytime i tried to search for an app in the dashboard, it was showing me crap for sale
[07:21] <jmfurlott> KM0201 it says up to 3.4 so I can't use their drivers
[07:22] <Kurama> Architecture 32 and 64 is basically 32 and 64 bit right?
[07:22] <KM0201> oh ok.
[07:22] <jmfurlott> KM0201 I agree but 12.04 wouldn't even boot for me
[07:22] <KM0201> wouldn't even boot?
[07:23] <jmfurlott> KM0201, the screen would just go black I hit start ubuntu from the disc
[07:23] <KM0201> hmm
[07:23] <Sazpaimon> is there a wubi-like installer that will actually allow me to set up ubuntu on unpartitioned space on my machine?
[07:24] <KM0201> Sazpaimon: not to my knowledge, thats not what wubi does.. why not just use a cd or usb?
[07:24] <jmfurlott> KM0201, oh wait I may have found a fix…to use legacy_fglrx
[07:24] <Sazpaimon> don't feel like digging out my blank cds or usb sticks
[07:24] <KM0201> ah ok.
[07:24] <KM0201> Sazpaimon: ?... that's a terrible answer.
[07:24] <KM0201> i suspect there's another reason
[07:25] <aum__> hello everyone, i have a command line system ubuntu based. Now i install it over other hardware through dd command. but i need a installer something like remastersys, i can not use remastersys because it required gnome/ graphical environment, and i have a memory limitation.
[07:25] <Sazpaimon> KM0201, nope, pure laziness
[07:25] <KM0201> then nothing we say can help you overcome that
[07:25] <melvincv> I just installed Quantal. Just curious, Why is amazon on the dash?
[07:25] <aum__> is there any command line tool like remastersys ?
[07:26] <Sazpaimon> its unfortunate, because debian has a windows installer that will allow installation to a partition
[07:26] <Sazpaimon> i was hoping ubuntu had the same thing
[07:26] <bazhang> !adlens | melvincv
[07:26] <bazhang> aum__, dd?
[07:28] <aum__> bazhang, http://linux.die.net/man/1/dd
[07:28] <bazhang> aum__, yes. why not just use that
[07:28] <mhr> Hi all, can I read a pdf file having graphics using command line console in ubuntu server? If not can it be converted in other format to read it?
[07:29] <bazhang> mhr, convert pdf to text that can be read in a tty?
[07:30] <topper4125> or html if it will extract the images as well
[07:30] <mhr> bazhang, but it has graphics too,
[07:30] <aum__> bazhang, our client needs a installer, to manage his partition.
[07:31] <Sazpaimon> alright, alright, I have a usb stick sitting here. I was using it as my portage tree for another machine, but I guess I can sacrifice it
[07:31] <mhr> topper4125, i meant to view in ubuntu server having no GUI
[07:32] <bazhang> mhr, you wish to view images (jpg/png/etc) without xserver?
[07:34] <bazhang> !info genisoimage | aum__
[07:34] <mhr> bazhang, yes if they can also be converted to some other compatible format to be viewed in command line console.
[07:39] <OerHeks> mhr, there is jp2a jpg to ascii, result can vary > http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/jp2a.1.html
[07:41] <OerHeks> mhr, here are more answers >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/97542/how-do-i-make-my-terminal-display-graphical-pictures
[07:42] <cihhan> I am seeing some interesting behavior: Im running some benchmarks (RUBiS) and even though the benchmark is over, the memory usage is still high based on top output (not the processes part, the system resource usage part of top). It's not decreasing. What can be the reason for that?
[07:44] <Jordan_U> !ram | cihhan
[07:45] <NoOova> what happens with http://gnome-look.org ?
[07:45] <cihhan> ubottu: Thanks a lot :)
[07:45] <cihhan> Jordan_U: thanks a lot, let me read :)
[07:45] <Jordan_U> cihhan: You're welcome :)
[07:46] <DaemonicApathy> Any way for me to defrag my SSD?
[07:46] <cihhan> Jordan_U: But I have a question. In this case, how can I really monitor the system memory usage when I run a benchmark?
[07:46] <Jordan_U> DaemonicApathy: What filesystem does it use?
[07:46] <OerHeks> NoOova, looks like a server issue there
[07:47] <mhr> OerHeks, I need to view the pdf file in ubuntu server, not the terminal of ubuntu desktop. Is that possible as it has graphics too. Or a way to convert the pdf with graphics to some compatible format to be viewed in ubuntu server command line.
[07:47] <DaemonicApathy> ext4
[07:47] <OerHeks> mhr, if you cannot extract the text and pictures, the answer is no
[07:47] <Evil_Eric> pdf2txt
[07:48] <OerHeks> mhr, print the pdf
[07:48] <zp> hey can anyone help me? just got a 4 channel usb relay from ebay  and i can connect to it with gtkterm, but thats gui, i want to be  able to control it from command line, sudo -l /dev/ttyUSB0 -s 9600  returns that the line is in use, however gtkterm works  perfectly....any help?
[07:48] <Jordan_U> cihhan: See the second to last question / answer @ http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ .
[07:49] <cihhan> I saw it, thanks a lot :)
[07:49] <DaemonicApathy> PDF in terminals: use the pdftohtml command, open the resulting file in the terminal.
[07:49] <zp> correction the command was "sudo cu -l..."
[07:50] <Jordan_U> DaemonicApathy: Then you can use "e4defrag", but note that 1: ext4 filesystems rarely fragment enough for defrag to be worth the time 2: Fragmentation matters much less on SSDs than on spinning disks (though it does still matter some, for different reasons)
[07:50] <zp> or can anyone point me into another direction for help?
[07:50] <DaemonicApathy> I'm aware, Jordan_U. I was just curious about there actually being a way to defrag ext4. Thanks.
[07:51] <Jordan_U> DaemonicApathy: You're welcome.
[07:54] <Ballu> hello
[07:56] <mhr> DaemonicApathy, i used pdftohtml, how do i read it now
[07:57] <Ballu> I want to know how to save the new updates or download when i am using Live ubuntu thru Pen drive. The pen drive has the persistent created but does not save anything on exit. I wish i could download using the transmission on the hard disk instead.
[07:57] <DaemonicApathy> mhr: with a text editor. I believe nano can handle html fine.
[07:57] <SpecialEd> Hey guys, I have a Drupal LAMP stack on a Ubuntu 12.04LTS VPS.  My hosting provider is going out of business and I need to migrate this system to a new hosting provider I recently purchased space from.   What would be the best way for me to backup & migrate this Ubuntu 12.04LTS system?
[07:59] <Guest75047> hey
[07:59] <DaemonicApathy> SpecialEd: This may help: http://drupal.org/node/1819704
[08:00] <Guest75047> hello DaemonicApathy
[08:00] <DaemonicApathy> Hello, Guest75047.
[08:03] <mhr> DaemonicApathy, nano or vi is displaying the html code not the actual file
[08:03] <SpecialEd> DaemonicApathy: thanks but I was hoping for more of an OS layer to handle this as I have more than just the /var/www/ path to move.  Is there like a block level backup and restore tool for Ubuntu 12.04LTS?  Something similar in Windoze to what I hope to achieve would be using VSS.
[08:04] <DaemonicApathy> mhr: Sorry about that, I completely forgot about lynx - the web browser for CLI. I don't usually use terminals for PDFs/HTML.
[08:05] <DaemonicApathy> SpecialEd: No idea, I would probably use ssh. I doubt that's the best choice, though.
[08:06] <SpecialEd> SSH?
[08:06] <SpecialEd> well of course I'm connecting via SSH, lol.  I'm talking about backing up and migrating a Ubuntu 12.04LTS x64 OS - not how to access it :)
[08:09] <DaemonicApathy> SpecialEd: Probably my own tired brain working against me, but I meant using scp to copy everything over the ssh connection. That's typically how I manage my (tiny) server machine.
[08:09] <SpecialEd> ahhh! OK
[08:09] <KsM> rsync maybe, too
[08:09] <SpecialEd> DaemonicApathy: Thank you so much! You lit a spark in my brain with using FXP transfer mode :)
[08:09] <DaemonicApathy> *tips hat*
[08:10] <SpecialEd> rsync would work but having a GUI to compare file/folder structure would be nice:)
[08:10] <SpecialEd> not sure if rsync would capture a live database too well, i'll probably do Rsync to start, then manual verify with FXP Transfer, then export/import the MySQL database :)
[08:10] <topper4125> isn't that kind of what filezilla does (not a server expert, don't bite me :o )
[08:10] <Ihsan_> Hello, I recently installed the Moonlight plugin for Mozilla Firefox (Ubuntu 12.10 64bit). I need the plugin for my school site. I installed Moonlight, but everytime I open the site I get this error: Could not call webservice. expected ';' (3B) but found '=' (3D) Line 34, position 115. Thanks
[08:11] <alusion> I want to stream video from ubuntu on my android device.. I installed SAMBA
[08:11] <alusion> is there an easy way to share?
[08:12] <KM0201> stream video from your ubuntu machine to your android.
[08:12] <alusion> yeah dude
[08:12] <alusion> I wanna stream in my LAN
[08:12] <KM0201> samba isn't for streaming, it's a filesharing utility.
[08:13] <alusion> Aite what about VLC?
[08:13] <KM0201> can android access upnp shares?.. you could use dlna
[08:13] <KM0201> vlc doesn't stream, it plays
[08:13] <DaemonicApathy> alusion: follow the parsnip: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+question/197586
[08:13] <KM0201> if you have vlc on your android.. it can play upnp
[08:13] <alusion> I'm reading the wise Parsnip
[08:13] <alusion> however what is upnp
[08:13] <lechevalier> help for menu copy to
[08:14] <KM0201> hmm, what parsnip did isn't really streaming (or at least how i think of streaming)
[08:14] <KM0201> !upnp
[08:15] <KM0201> although i wouldn't use mediatomb (unless you're just deadset on configuring it with a gui... )
[08:15] <KM0201> i've had better luck w/ dlna
[08:17] <dathui> Hi, I get disk usage warnings, but I'm not sure what folders are taking up all the space since it's a different partition than my home folder. it's the sysroot one. http://pastebin.ca/2252023
[08:18] <ikonia> dathui: that is /
[08:19] <ikonia> dathui: so anything thats in / that's not /var, /usr/local (why do you have /usr/local/??) or /boot
[08:20] <KM0201> someone who separated / and /home and didn't put enough space on /  ?
[08:20] <ikonia> KM0201: i seems a fine space, just getting full now
[08:20] <KM0201> hen i'd argue that means it's NOT fine
[08:21] <dathui> which I'm trying to fix...but I'm not sure what to remove. is there a way to list installed applications by size?
[08:21] <ikonia> don't know how you can do it by size, but surly their size is listed in software center
[08:21] <xukun> I installed a fresh 12.10 on my desktop, everything seems except at the right corner near the clock I see a battery simple, it's like I'm using a laptop. Any Idea why that is?
[08:22] <ikonia> xukun: it's picked up your machines power managment
[08:22] <topper4125> !baobab
[08:22] <dathui> ikonia: it's just the name and description under installed applications, if i don't go into the details for each application
[08:22] <topper4125> 'erm okay... take a look at baobab, graphical disk use analyzer
[08:23] <ikonia> dathui: then go into the detail of each one
[08:23] <xukun> ikonia, are you saying that is a good thing?
[08:23] <dathui> topper4125: ah, thanks for the tip
[08:23] <ikonia> xukun: I'm saying it's "nothing"
[08:23] <KM0201> !info baobag
[08:23] <KM0201> !info baobab
[08:24] <topper4125> ah.. forgot the 'info' part...
[08:24] <topper4125> lol
[08:24] <Ballu> Am I lost!
[08:24] <Ballu> help
[08:24] <DaemonicApathy> !ask | Ballu
[08:24] <topper4125> !info gps
[08:24] <topper4125> lol
[08:26] <Ballu> ubottu: Thank you, ubottu.
[08:27] <xukun> ikonia, ok then. something else: after I install nvidia-current xorg fails to start. I see no errors but I see the desktop with low resolution and no icons. during the nvidia install I see this message though: Module build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the kernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed. Any thoughts?
[08:30] <xukun> ikonia, it seems that he NVidia Proprietary drivers need to build a kernel module at install time but fails. Very strange
[08:30] <dathui> can i extend a partition?
[08:31] <topper4125> Use gparted...
[08:32] <dathui> ok, thanks
[08:32] <topper4125> !info gparted
[08:32] <icefight> gparted ?
[08:32] <icefight> not parted?
[08:33] <trentg> anybody know if I got another ati card if dual monitor would work (two separate cards)?
[08:34] <dathui> topper4125: gparted is saying it's all one big partition.
[08:34] <dathui> is there another way to split disk space? gparted has two partitions, one big and one "lvm"
[08:35] <dathui> other way around, a small "boot" and one big "lvm"
[08:38] <topper4125> dathui, not sure if this will help or not but: howtoforge.com/linux_lvm
[08:39] <topper4125> !lvm
[08:42] <dathui> topper4125: gotcha, thanks for the help
[08:42] <topper4125> dathui, np :)
[08:47] <blackshirt> !tmux
[08:47] <blackshirt> !info tmux
[08:48] <Evil_Eric> !info DeVeDe
[08:48] <Evil_Eric> cool
[08:48]  * Evil_Eric backs away from the bot 
[08:49] <Sazpaimon> I cannot get circular scrolling to work in my freshly installed ubuntu machine
[08:49] <Sazpaimon> the option does not appear to be available, yet I can see it in windows
[08:49] <silv3r_m00n> I wish to run kde plasmoids on gnome, how ?
[08:56] <topper4125> http://askubuntu.com/questions/26033/can-i-use-kde-plasma-widgets-in-gnome
[08:58] <dreko> Hi everyone..
[09:15] <Fuzzles> can someone help me ive installed my wireless driver as ubuntu picked it up but after a reatart it still doesnt pick up any routers?
[09:16] <dathui> which card?
[09:17] <Fuzzles> im not sure it worked before i did some updates
[09:29] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[09:31] <psydrive> hello
[09:31] <sjd_zeus> 。
[09:31] <psydrive> !list
[09:45] <adoniscik> how should one resolve the python/scipy error "clapack.so: undefined symbol: clapack_sgesv"? clapack is located in several directories and I installed the Ubuntu repository's version of scipy. I'm on 12.10
[09:45] <anjrewchen> Hi, I was wondering if it is at all possible to have a private /usr directory?
[09:46] <anjrewchen> For example I have a /home/ajc/bin
[09:47] <almoxarife> anjrewchen: private from whom? your home dir is private
[09:47] <anjrewchen> Right, but in the sense that packages are normally installed to /usr
[09:48] <anjrewchen> Can packages be installed to /home/$USER/usr?
[09:48] <almoxarife> anjrewchen: no, but apps can belong to a specific user
[09:49] <anjrewchen> how does that work?
[09:51] <almoxarife> anjrewchen: you could have an app running out of your home dir, i think it would need to be compiled there, not sure though, root would need to be involved
[09:51] <andrea_> what is the best dual port gigabit NIC by Intel i can use with ubuntu?
[09:52] <anjrewchen> Thanks almoxarife
[09:55] <anjrewchen> andrea_ I think most nics have pretty good support, have you ever had issues?
[09:55] <andrea_> anjrewchen: i had issues with crappy NICs with realtek chipset
[09:59] <gordonjcp> in the file browser, if I plug my phone in I get two massive bars saying "Open Shotwell Photo Manager" and "Open Rhythmbox Music Player"
[09:59] <gordonjcp> this takes up a huge chunk of screen and gets in the way
[09:59] <gordonjcp> is it possible to get rid of them?
[09:59] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[10:00] <eraggo> why splice (game from humble bundle) splits between 2 monitors? anyone have idea?
[10:03] <anjrewchen> quit
[10:05] <user4567123> hi everyone, could someone give me a hand reading some logwatch reports from my ubuntu server?
[10:06] <muelli> !accessibility | user4567123, try this if you have trouble with reading. There is a good a11y stack that should help you :-)
[10:07] <user4567123> i've googled to no avail, im trying to understand what this line of the report means "A total of 2 sites probed the server"
[10:07] <user4567123> what does "probed the server" actually entail?
[10:08] <muelli> user4567123: webserver. They probably spidered for specific applications installed. You can read the logwatch source, it's not too complicated.
[10:09] <user4567123> meulli: thanks, so like a burpsuite or webscarab spidering attempt? anything to be concerned about?
[10:10] <muelli> user4567123: no. I wouldn't be. But make sure you have your webapps up to date.
[10:10] <user4567123> meulli: ok great, thanks for your help on this :)
[10:11] <muelli> user4567123: you're most welcome :-) Cool that you run Free Software!
[10:12] <user4567123> muelli: it's cool that you help people who run free software ;) bye
[10:12] <vitimiti> (·_·)/
[10:19] <keber> kella peal on 11-st 5ni emane siiamikaksik ja taga samas kõhus olnud vend, kella 11-st viieni on emane siiamikaksik ja taga samas õhus olnud vend, kella 11-st viieni on surnud emane siiamikaksik ja taga samas õhus olnud vend, kell2 on isane siiamikaksik ja ta õde, kell 8 on poolitatud siiamikaksikut ja ta õde, kell 8 on vend poolitatud ja ta õde
[10:20] <dr_willis> !english
[10:22] <mnn> would you help me how can i install drivers to detect  usb flash in thinclients using ubuntu 10.04.3
[10:24] <dathui> can i have the compiz switcher but without the window grouping?
[10:25] <dr_willis> the ccsm tool lets you tweak all sorts of things. so its possible.
[10:25] <dathui> ok, thanks
[10:25] <dathui> i turned the compiz switcher off completely but the static switcher has so small thumbnails
[10:33] <mynameisthom> hello. Right now I'm using live-USB with Ubuntu 12.04. The prob is my laptop could connect to wifi before. But after update, my laptop can't connect to the wifi anymore. It detects the networks, but when tried to connect, the indicator just spining and after a while, the connection drop and asking for password. It just continuously happen like that. Can anybody gimme solution or some clue to fix this?
[10:35] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[10:41] <Night-hacks> "sudo ifconfig usb0 plumb" says unknown host
[10:42] <Night-hacks> i want to run android reverse tethering
[10:42] <cantoma> hey guys, I am currently using wmaker and I have a 22'' widescreen with 1920 x 1080. Currently I cannot see all my screen area and when move my mouse close to the borders of the screen, the screen moves up or down. I think there must be some problem with the screen setup. I have tried to change the resolution of the screen like this http://pastebin.com/6VzXEE98 but I end up with a cropped screen. Any ideas??
[10:45] <dr_willis> the screen pans around? thats an old 'feature' of X that would kick in if you had a desktop size defined bigger then the monitor res.
[10:45] <dr_willis> ive not seen that happen in years. :) i couldent even figure out how to force it on with my netbook.
[10:47] <cantoma> dr_willis, yes the screen pans around. If I setup a lower resolution the screen gets cropped. It is annoying.
[10:48] <dr_willis> dosent happen with other window managers?
[10:48] <cantoma> dr_willis, i have just this one
[10:48] <dr_willis> test with others?
[10:49] <dr_willis> wmaker is the old WindowMaker right? Its quite.. well.. old skool.
[10:49] <cantoma> dr_willis, i wanted to keep this system very minimal its a debian netinstal
[10:50] <cantoma> dr_willis, maybe there is some application that is able to configure the screen
[10:50] <dr_willis> id say test with Fluxbox or Openbox or even JWM. it may be a Window Manager issue. and not an X config issue.
[10:50] <cantoma> ok
[10:50] <dr_willis> That Panning feature is somthing common years ago. I rarely seen it mentioned these days
[10:51] <cantoma> ok
[10:51] <dr_willis> if you are on Debian, you really should be asking in #debian also
[10:51] <cantoma> dr_willis, i asked there as well
[10:52] <cantoma> dr_willis, 20 min before coming here
[10:52] <cantoma> dr_willis, so thanks for your help
[10:52] <cantoma> i am gonna switch to fluxbox now and see what happen
[10:52] <cantoma> off
[10:52] <mneisen> HI all - I run a server on Oneiric; I need to upgrade to OpenJDK 7. I have installed openjdk-7-jdk, openjdk-7-jre-headless and some more openjdk-7* packages without problems. BUT: The alternatives system does not seem to pick up the new java version correctly. When I do "update-alternatives -s java-1.7.0-openjdk", I get this output: http://pastie.org/5386823 . Does anyone has any idea how to do this correctly (nd yes, I know about upda
[10:53] <dr_willis> im on a dual moniotor setup. so i cant even really test/verify the same problem here
[10:53] <cantoma> dr_willis, if you switch to wmaker does it support the dual monitor?
[10:53] <dr_willis> cantoma:  no idea. Been so long since ive last used wmaker. i would actually be suprised if it did.
[10:54] <cantoma> ok
[10:54] <cantoma> i am rebooting X now
[10:54] <dr_willis> mneisen:  im not sure thats the right update-alternatives command. the ubuntu  java wiki page i think gave the commands
[10:55] <dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[10:55] <dr_willis> IMPORTANT choose the java you installed as default
[10:55] <dr_willis>  $ sudo update-alternatives --config java
[10:56] <dr_willis> i tend to cheat and use the webupd8 scripts/ppa to install java. ;)
[10:58] <mneisen> dr_willies: Thanks - I will try that! Not sure though about the webupd8 scripts ... :)
[10:58] <dr_willis> they got a ppa/script thing set up to make it easier. Been a while since i last used them
[10:58] <dr_willis> brb
[11:00] <mneisen> dr_willis: update-alternatives --config java gives me "There is only one alternative in link group java: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java Nothing to configure." although the openjdk-7 jvm is in /usr/lib/jvm .
[11:00] <dr_willis> sounds liek it may have not gotten installed correctly
[11:01] <dr_willis> I was just looking at the !java wiki page..  could be somthing got overlooked
[11:01] <dr_willis> !java
[11:02] <dr_willis> heh - even the wiki page mentions the webupd8 ppa.
[11:02] <mneisen> dr_willis: This is my impression as well. I think the path in /usr/lib/jvm is not correct.
[11:03] <mneisen> dr_willis: Yes, the wiki mentions webupd8. But I have read nothing about openjdk-7 on their website.
[11:03] <mneisen> dr_willis: I do not want to run Oracle Java but openjdk.
[11:04] <dr_willis> Hmm..  then you just install the openjdk* packages from the package manager i thought
[11:05] <dr_willis> http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/openjdk-7-jre
[11:05] <dr_willis> http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/icedtea-7-plugin
[11:05] <dr_willis> I dont java much. But  i tend to just use the opdnjdk ones on my machines
[11:05] <Evil_Eric> sounds like bukkit minecraft server building time
[11:06] <dr_willis> I definatly dont Minecraft. ;) but I do seem to recall Minecraft not likeing the openjdk
[11:06] <Evil_Eric> it dosent like openjdk 7
[11:06] <dr_willis> that wmaker guy never came back? I was going to tell him wmaker in 12.10 does support multi monitors nicely
[11:07] <dr_willis> ;P
[11:07] <Evil_Eric> 6 its ok with sorta
[11:07] <Evil_Eric> hahaha
[11:07] <dr_willis> https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java    Oracle Java (JDK) 6 / 7 / 8 Installer PPA
[11:07] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[11:08] <dr_willis> can install 6, 7, or 8.. I dident even know there was a 8 ;P
[11:08] <Evil_Eric> im waiting on the transcoding seasion to foul up and then im going to asking anyone with encoding exp to help me
[11:08] <Evil_Eric> hiya obiwan
[11:08] <dr_willis> i just use winff, avidemux, or arista for my meger transcodeing needs
[11:09] <Evil_Eric> im  using DeVeDe , dvdstyler and bombono dvd
[11:10] <dr_willis> DeveDe works well for my needs also.
[11:10] <dr_willis> I just tend to make Cartoon DVDs for the grandkids
[11:10] <Evil_Eric> yeah its great only reason i even have the others was hopping it would fix the issue but nope
[11:12] <mneisen> dr_willis: Thanks for link about installing openjdk via the ppa.
[11:12] <mneisen> dr_willis: I will try that. Thanks!
[11:13] <dr_willis> oprnjdk is in the repos. :) no ppa needed
[11:14] <mneisen> dr_willis: I got openjdk from the repos ... and it does not work  for me. It does install alright, I can invoke the jvm by calling /usr/lib/jvm/openjdk-7..../java directly, but I cannot set it as my default vm.
[11:14] <mneisen> dr_willis: This is because openjdk-7 does not corretcly register itself with the alternatives system during installation.
[11:15] <cantoma> dr_willis, it seems like it is also a problem of fluxbox
[11:15] <dr_willis> weird. Perhaps its time to remove/purge them all and reinstall it. - ive not heard of that issue befor.  this is on 12.10? or 12.04 ?
[11:15] <dr_willis> cantoma:  wmaker in ubuntu works fine with my 2 monitors :)
[11:15] <mneisen> dr_willis: At least not on my machine. I just checked in /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/java; the openjdk 7 JVM is not in the alternatives DB.
[11:16] <mneisen> dr_willis: so naturally update-alternatives --config java will tell me that there is only the Oracle JDK 6 on my machine although OpenJDK 7 is in fact also available.
[11:16] <mneisen> dr_willis: This is on Oneiric (11.10?).
[11:16] <cantoma> dr_willis, maybe if I install gnome or kde it solves the problem .. but i was trying to avoid it
[11:17] <dr_willis> mneisen:  11.10? Hmm.. all bets are off then. :) i only use the latest releases - so my info may be incorrect
[11:18] <dr_willis> !oneiric
[11:18] <Furai> Hello.
[11:18] <dr_willis> !11.10
[11:18] <dr_willis> Howdy Furai
[11:21] <Furai> I'm proud user of useful dualboot (Windows 7 + Ubuntu) with synced accounts for Firefox, Thunderbird and Pidgin across OSes.
[11:24] <Scall> Hello, in the Xbox360 controller page of the Ubuntu wiki (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xbox360Controller#Known_issues_with_Wireless_controllers), I read that: «There is no way to turn the controller off, save removing the batteries» for the wireless version of the Xbox 360 gamepad. Has this issue been solved?
[11:24] <coder2> i  have ubuntu 11.10 installed in my laptop , suddenly function of right click through touchpad and external mouse has stopped working, how to resolve it?
[11:25] <dr_willis> coder2:  even in the guest and other user accounts? it affects them all>
[11:25] <dr_willis> That would be unusual.
[11:25] <coder2> dr_willis, i have not tried using guest
[11:26] <dr_willis> the 'xev' tool may show if  the system is getting mouse inputs also
[11:26] <Evil_Eric> looks like ill be loading widowns soon :(
[11:27] <cantoma> dr_jesus_, do you know where I could find the xorg.conf file. My locate is not able to find it. Or is it a deprecated file? I just want to have a look to see what is the current setup. By the way gdm also suffers from the same problem regarding screen resolution.
[11:27] <coder2> dr_willis, 'xev', is there any command ?
[11:27] <cantoma> dr_willis,
[11:27] <dr_willis> xev is the command....
[11:27] <coder2> ok
[11:27] <dr_willis> xev | grep button
[11:27] <dr_willis> then put the pointer in the window and click the buttons
[11:27] <dr_willis> state 0x0, button 3, same_screen YES
[11:27] <dr_willis> is my right mouse button
[11:28] <dr_willis> without the grep - xev can spit out more info then we need. :) to test this
[11:29] <pichugeddon> hi! i'm using irssi right now. somebody knows if the screen can be splited? I wanna see the people in one of the sides :)
[11:30] <coder2> dr_willis, not working
[11:30] <dr_willis> pichugeddon:  irssi has a split window mode.. but it seems its not real popular/well documeted feature. I seem to recall all the irssi tutorials sort of saying 'this part is complex so we dont cover it here'
[11:30] <dr_willis> coder2:  interesting. you get output for the other buttons but not  the right click button?
[11:31] <jrib> pichugeddon: http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssisplit/ though checkout weechat if you want more powerful splitting (vertical splits)
[11:31] <pichugeddon> ok, many tks dr_willis. Could you be so nice to tell me another irc client to use under console?
[11:31] <dr_willis> http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssisplit/   written in 2005
[11:31] <pichugeddon> jrib, tks
[11:31] <dr_willis> pichugeddon:  i use weechat - it has many nicer features then irssi these days
[11:39] <Furai> Why on Earth gnome terminal doesn't support audible bell?
[11:40] <dr_willis> actually I think its xorg settings that disble the ctrl-g bell.
[11:40] <Furai> xorg?
[11:40] <dr_willis> i see this asked every so often
[11:40] <Furai> I need audible bells for my weechat.
[11:41] <Touhou11> Furai: Please watch your language
[11:41] <Furai> Without it my highlight pass unnoticed.
[11:41] <Furai> What is wrong with my language?
[11:41] <Touhou11> Weechat... we don't want to know about your scatalogical cybersex
[11:42] <Furai> /care
[11:42] <Furai> And left.
[11:42] <dr_willis> I get OSD notifications in weechat when someone says my name. ;) a noise would be a bit overkill. but i imagine you could set weechat to play a sound via a command, that would work. vs just a pc spkr beep
[11:42] <Furai> Unsuccesful troll is unsuccesful.
[11:43] <dr_willis> http://superuser.com/questions/22767/enable-system-beep-in-ubuntu
[11:43] <Furai> I don't like any kinds of OSD...
[11:43] <lantizia> Lo, is there anyway to automate importing VPN configurations in to the Network Manager gui?  like a way to script it?
[11:43] <dr_willis> half the time people want to kill the beepig dead.. then other half want it back. ;)
[11:44] <dr_willis> I think  the pcspkr module is blacklisted by default that prevents most of the  speaker sounds/beeps that were common a few years back
[11:46] <coder2> dr_willis, hey my problem just got solved by logging into test account, i dont know how.
[11:46] <dr_willis> coder2:  the mouse suddendly started working in all accounts now?
[11:47] <coder2> yes, i just once switched to guest account then logged back into admin  and problem solved
[11:48] <Martin_vW> I just installed Ubuntu 12.10 with gnome-shell and now I'm missing the encryption applet that I used back with gnome2. Is there an applet for gnome3 that does the same?
[11:50] <Furai> dr_willis, I'll give a look to OSD notifications.
[11:54] <Furai> This script?
[11:54] <Furai> http://www.weechat.org/scripts/source/stable/xosdnotify.tcl.html/
[11:55] <dr_willis> im just using one called notify.py
[11:55] <dr_willis> got it via that weeget feature of weechat
[12:04] <cantoma> guys, how can i check which linux-image (kernel) version is available in the backports. I am currently trying to locate linux-image-2.6.38 since I am following this forum => http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=65638
[12:06] <dr_willis> what release are you using?
[12:11] <shomon> hi, I think I have a problem with my firewall: it's not telling servers when connections drop
[12:12] <shomon> so the server stays open and waiting... getting bored
[12:12] <shomon> and going on strike finally
[12:12] <shomon> how can I diagnose this and find out if it's my machine or something else?
[12:13] <shomon> ubuntu 11.04
[12:16] <bond__> can anybody tell me about where can i get help regarding tcpdump?
[12:23] <blackshirt> !info byoubu
[12:23] <blackshirt> !info byobu
[12:25] <pitto> hi all!
[12:25] <pitto> is this the support channell?
[12:25] <Evil_Eric> hello  potofcoffee
[12:26] <MonLizardo> I'm using a Macbook 5,1 and I cannot boot 12.10 64bit version after installing from the DVD. I am not dual booting. The first time I installed it, everything working except wifi. After a few reboots I only got a black screen with a blinking cursor in the top left.
[12:26] <blackshirt> hi pitto
[12:26] <Evil_Eric> hi pitto
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:26] <OerHeks> MonLizardo, maybe mactel pages have a solution, i think nomodeset > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[12:27] <Guest3683> hii alll
[12:27] <knoppix> how remove new folder exe virus from windows using linux live cd
[12:27] <chuxxsss> Hi all.
[12:27] <pitto> I've just installed fresh 12.10 and updated it to the last bit... My pc can't shutdown (it stays with ubuntu splashscreen). How can I solve this?
[12:27] <pitto> (I am on a normal pc)
[12:27] <Guest3683> i want to save data before submitting
[12:27] <MonLizardo> Tried re-installing from the dvd a few times and I cannot get it to book. I just tried a fresh install and when the system was about to boot for the first time, I got this message and the screen is now hanging on this. "Broadcast message from root@ubuntu" space "(unknown) at 8:17 ..." space "The system is going down for reboot NOW" space "modem-manager [1440]: <info> Caught signal 15, shutting down...
[12:27] <Guest3683> help me with django
[12:28] <pythonirc101> Anyone knows what's causing this: http://pbin.be/show/931/
[12:28] <chuxxsss> I cannot install file anymore but updates work?
[12:28] <pythonirc101> never had apt-get fail on me
[12:28] <Guest3683> how to set flags in django
[12:28] <MonLizardo> I get that message after every install. I will likely get the blank screen again after reboot.
[12:29] <pythonirc101> Guest3683: you probably want to ask #python?
[12:29] <OerHeks> MonLizardo, i can't help you further, i have no MAC :(
[12:29] <Guest3683> yes
[12:29] <shomon> hi, how do I diagnose a misbehaving firewall on ubuntu 11.04?
[12:29] <Guest3683> help asap
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> is 11.04 still supported?
[12:30] <OerHeks> !natty
[12:30] <chuxxsss> I have tried everything so far. when I  sudo apt-get update it just hangs on 0% waiting.  HELP plese.
[12:31] <Evil_Eric> 2 days befor my b-day and if i had my way bout it we would still be using 10.04
[12:31] <pythonirc101> my machine is running 11.10 -- should I upgrade?
[12:32] <OerHeks> Guest3683 try #django ?
[12:32] <blno> pythonirc101: 11.10 is still supported until 13.04 I think, so you can keep it if you like it. If you want more recent features, 12.04 is good and stable (but uses quite a different interface).
[12:33] <pythonirc101> blno: http://pbin.be/show/931/ -- any ideas why this would happen?
[12:33] <Evil_Eric> <3 12.04 LTS its what im running
[12:33] <pythonirc101> What happens when one does do-release-upgrade on a 11.10 box?
[12:34] <OerHeks> !upgrade | pythonirc101
[12:35] <pythonirc101> OerHeks: Any ideas why this is happening to 11.10 - http://pbin.be/show/931/
[12:35] <blno> pythonirc101: sorry, no idea. What does the log says?
[12:36] <subdesign> hi, what is ?1 in my filenames? so image.jpg?1
[12:36] <subdesign> or its not ubuntu related
[12:38] <OerHeks> pythonirc101, as blno says, what is in the  /var/lib/dkms/blcr/0.8.2/build/make.log ?
[12:38] <OerHeks> did you update before this action?
[12:39] <chuxxsss> I have tried everything so far. when I  sudo apt-get update it just hangs on 0% waiting.  HELP please.
[12:39] <OerHeks> chuxxsss, 11.04 is EOL, see the message from ubottu
[12:39] <OerHeks> !rootirc | SouravAJ
[12:39] <pythonirc101> OerHeks: no such directory as /var/log/dkms
[12:40] <OerHeks> pythonirc101, read carefull /var/lib/ ....
[12:40] <OerHeks> see your own paste,last line
[12:40] <SouravAJ> hello i just install ubuntu today i hate the launchbar in left side i want to remove it plz tell me how?
[12:41] <blno> SouravAJ: what would you prefer instead?
[12:41] <pythonirc101> http://pbin.be/show/933/
[12:41] <SouravAJ> actually i want ubuntu 9.10 desktop look in 12.10 is it possible?
[12:41] <OerHeks> !nounity > SouravAJ
[12:42] <blno> SouravAJ: I think the best then is to install Xubuntu (the last one) and configure it to look like what you're used to (Gnome 2)
[12:42] <SouravAJ> ubottu: i will make user shortly
[12:43] <SouravAJ> ok
[12:43] <SouravAJ> thanks
[12:43] <blno> SouravAJ: that new interface in Ubuntu is called Unity, and you can't make it look like Gnome 2. XFCE (in Xubuntu) is configurable enough for that, and many people who complained about Unity like XFCE now.
[12:44] <dr_willis> or thers Lubuntu/Lxde for an old skool look
[12:44] <dr_willis> theres also the gnome classic thing.
[12:44] <dr_willis> !classic
[12:44] <dr_willis> !notunity
[12:45] <Evil_Eric> i love unity on 12.04 but i realy dont like unity on 12.10
[12:45] <blno> dr_willis: I thought the Gnome classic thing was/will be discontinued?
[12:45] <blno> dr_willis: or maybe I'm just mistaking with something else
[12:45] <dr_willis> it will be eventually
[12:45] <OerHeks> Evil_Eric, how it is different?
[12:46] <blno> dr_willis: so maybe it's a better idea to make people switch to something which will be maintained in the future
[12:46] <dr_willis> unity works fine for me in 12.10
[12:47] <DigitalYeti> Anyone having problems with their wired network connection after a recent update?
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> DigitalYeti  define "problems"
[12:47] <DigitalYeti> well
[12:47] <DigitalYeti> I did an update on the 9th
[12:47] <DigitalYeti> the only networking related update I could find was libqt4-network
[12:48] <DigitalYeti> and now my wired network connection says there's no internet
[12:48] <Evil_Eric> well they added stuff to it and made it all just shiny and pretty its just a personal preferance that i realy dont like it in 12.10 but in 12.04 its all that and bag of cheetoes and i also like win 8 metro also so im a pretty fickle person
[12:48] <DigitalYeti> but I do have internet with other computers in the house and noone has touched taht machine since the update
[12:48] <shomon> ok supposing I had a supported ubuntu release, how do I diagnose firewall problems?
[12:49] <blno> shomon: what firewall do you use? Can you paste its config? What problem do you have?
[12:54] <Evil_Eric> hiya digiyeti
[12:55] <DigitalYeti> hey Eric
[12:56] <Evil_Eric> sounds like you got a bad issue there
[12:56] <DigitalYeti> Evil_Eric: yeah it sucks... my work machine now has no internet post-update
[12:56] <DigitalYeti> not sure why
[12:57] <DigitalYeti> The only network related update was the libqt4-network one
[12:57] <Evil_Eric> wish i knew how to help you but im still a newbie to all the inner workings of ubuntu
[12:57] <DigitalYeti> but I can't find anything online regarding that
[12:57] <DigitalYeti> no worries man
[12:57] <craigbass1976> I'm printing from Firefox.  Anyone know why I've got to go through all these gyrations http://www.doopensource.com/applications/getting-from-web-page-to-print-in-firefox/  when someone using the same FF version (16.0.2) on XP gets a nice easy gui to change header and footer content?
[12:57] <Evil_Eric> i can make it look awesome and stuff though
[12:59] <gordonjcp> heh, printers
[12:59] <gordonjcp> do people still use those?
[13:00] <DigitalYeti> does anyone know if it's possible to roll back a specific update in ubuntu?
[13:00] <craigbass1976> gordonjcp, haha.  No, we're doing inventory and while I TRIED  VERY HARD to use a scanning gun (for the actual counting) and a smartphone (to look at the list) I've been outvoted and must print count sheets.
[13:00] <jrib> DigitalYeti: not supported, but if it's just a couple of packages, you can try... What package?
[13:01] <DigitalYeti> jrib: libqt4-network... I updated monday and haven't used that machine since, booted today and network manager says no network connection
[13:02] <DigitalYeti> that was the only network related package updated
[13:02] <DigitalYeti> btw- it's a dual boot machine, windows gets network just fine, so I know it's not the cable/card
[13:03] <jrib> DigitalYeti: on precise?  Anyway, I have to go, but you can do "apt-cache policy PACKAGE", see what versions are available, then install version VERSION with "apt-get install PACKAGE=VERSION".  I would advise you to read the changelog and see what exactly was updated though.  It could be a security fix.  Also, make sure you read what apt wants to do.  If other packages, depend on a specific version, it might
[13:03] <jrib> want to remove lots of things
[13:03] <sevenforall> Greetings
[13:03] <DigitalYeti> jrib: I believe it WAS a security fix from what I see. The problem is that it's SO secure, now I have no internet ;)
[13:04] <DigitalYeti> haha
[13:04] <DigitalYeti> anyway thanks for trying!
[13:04] <sevenforall> What is the easiest way to install Windows on another disk and fix GRUB afterwards?
[13:05] <dr_willis> a seperate hard drive? or a seperate partion on the same hd?
[13:06] <BluesKaj> sevenforall:  if you install windows on a nother disk then sudo update-grub should pick up the windows mbr
[13:06] <dr_willis> You can have windows totally on HD #1 and linux and grub on hd #2 and windows shouldent touch grub at all. You can then select what HD to boot.
[13:06] <sevenforall> dr_willis: I assumed that last time and that didn't work out too well
[13:06] <dr_willis> the linux hd would have grub that would also let you get to windows. Or  You boot hd #1 and boot to windows directly
[13:07] <dr_willis> I swet up most of my pcs that way. If i remove the linux HD.  dont have to fix the windows mbr.
[13:07] <sevenforall> BluesKaj: How does one run sudo update-grub if Windows won't allow me to get into Ubuntu in the first place?
[13:07] <rzz> greetings, I've a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.10 x64, I'm trying to install git. I've apt-get update && upgrade already. However, apt-get install git-core and git both fail (package not available). How should I proceed to install git? Should I add a specific software source?
[13:07] <sevenforall> rzz: That should work out of the box. Could you paste the exact terminal feedback?
[13:08] <sevenforall> rzz: Including your command
[13:08] <BluesKaj> sevenforall m because once you update grub then windows will be in the grub menu
[13:08] <sevenforall> BluesKaj: Yes, but how do I update grub?
[13:08] <sevenforall> I mean, I need to get into Ubuntu to do that, which I can't before updating grub. It's a vicious circle, or so it seems.
[13:09] <craigbass1976> sevenforall, livecd?
[13:09] <BluesKaj> sevenforall:  so you aren't seeing the grub menu , if so try holding the down the left shift key right after the bios screen
[13:09] <sevenforall> craigbass1976: That'll fix grub on another disk as well?
[13:10] <rzz> sevenforall: http://pastebin.com/esWbs0Lq , thanks!
[13:10] <sevenforall> rzz: Try running the command as root, 'sudo apt-get install git-core'
[13:10] <sevenforall> Not saying that'll work, but it's worth a shot
[13:11] <rzz> sevenforall: I'm already root :)
[13:11] <sevenforall> rzz: I completely missed that part, my bad
[13:11] <dr_willis> sounds like the system is booting the wrong HD.
[13:11] <sevenforall> dr_willis: I'll see how it goes *grabs his W7 disc*
[13:12] <sevenforall> rzz: Other applications are installing just fine?
[13:12] <rzz> sevenforall: yup
[13:12] <sevenforall> rzz: Have you tried purging/autoremoving git?
[13:13] <sevenforall> rzz: 'apt-get purge git*' and 'apt-get autoremove git*'
[13:13] <sevenforall> rzz: If you do that, make sure you don't have any other apps starting with 'git-
[13:13] <sevenforall> ' installed :P
[13:14] <DaemonicApathy> git-core's last version was in Lucid, iirc...
[13:15] <sevenforall> I've successfully installed git(-core) just yesterday, it should work
[13:15] <DaemonicApathy> Dummy package for precise/quantal?
[13:15] <Pici> rzz: what does the output of `apt-cache policy git` say?
[13:16] <rzz> Pici: http://pastebin.com/s99UhRrU
[13:18] <Pici> rzz: What about the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list  ?
[13:18] <blueoctopus> Hello!
[13:22] <rzz> Pici: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1362564/
[13:24] <nbubuntu> anyone know how do I remove network share files in one shot ? there's a lot of share folder , around 20.I just wanted to remove all in one shot. Using ubuntu
[13:25] <ritz> hi, http://ubuntu.mirocommunity.org/ seems unavailable
[13:25] <Pici> rzz: and you're sure you've run apt-get update?
[13:25] <ritz> from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-M/RemoteParticipation
[13:26] <kevin89> Could anyone point me in the right direction to have the pepper flash plugin for chromium in Ubuntu 12.10 64bit?
[13:27] <kevin89> I can't seem to google a solution properly
[13:27] <nbubuntu> can I just delete /var/lib/samba/usershares ?
[13:29] <rzz> Pici: I'm sure :)
[13:29] <rzz> I can think now my mirror not copying everything
[13:29] <rzz> I'll change mirror and see what happens
[13:29] <Pici> rzz: give it a shot
[13:29] <chuxxsss> I have tried everything so far. when I  sudo apt-get update it just hangs on 0% waiting.  HELP plese.
[13:30] <harovali1> hi, i'm trying to redirect incoming traffic from ppp0 to 192.168.2.10 an ports 80 and 8080 by doing this http://bpaste.net/show/MYyEQVbyEqGGr58esqnd/  ; however, after running the script iptables -L -n gives this http://bpaste.net/show/PdPy0ocGjfwENbVwy5xC/  ; the 80 and 8080 rules seem missing, what I'm doing wrong ?
[13:30] <Pici> ritz: let me see if I can find something out
[13:30] <ritz> Pici thank you :)
[13:32] <rzz> Pici: I've git now running
[13:32] <rzz> I changed the mirror and now it's working
[13:32] <rzz> so the mirror is incomplete
[13:32] <bkc_> chuxxsss: change mirror :)
[13:32] <rzz> Pici: thanks, have a nice day!
[13:33] <Pici> ritz: you do know that data is from a release that came out in 2010, right>
[13:33] <pailaps> hi! could you please point me to the right direction. Trying to establish a 3G connection via a Samsung GT-S7230 phone, which is connected via usb to microusb connector. In windoze theres a dialer which uses NDIS, however in ubuntu lsusb recognizes the phone, but im unable to establish a dialup connection via network manager
[13:33] <Pici> ritz: The content should be on the youtube or blip channels
[13:33] <Evil_Eric> anyone here REALY know how to set up ip tables properly ?
[13:34] <bkc_> Evil_Eric: I do
[13:34] <pailaps> any hints on how to resolve this, much appreciated, i was thinking wvdial but not really sure?
[13:34] <Evil_Eric> bkc you going to be around for a bit
[13:34] <ritz> pailaps what does nm say ?
[13:34] <bkc_> Evil_Eric: yes
[13:34] <ritz> Pici fair point
[13:35] <Evil_Eric> ok cause im about to swap over to a difrent linux distro and i wanna use ip tables other than ufw
[13:35] <pailaps> ritz, could you please clarify what is nm?
[13:36] <pailaps> ahh, sorry
[13:36] <pailaps> network manager
[13:36] <pailaps> network manager lets to create a dialup connection
[13:36] <chuxxsss> change mirror did not work bkc_
[13:36] <bkc_> Evil_Eric: If you're target distro isn't #ubuntu then I'd suggest we take this to priv so not too bother the other guys here :)
[13:36] <bkc_> chuxxsss: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> pailaps: if you run:  lsusb     you should see an 8 character hex ID for the device, this will help you find guides
[13:36] <ritz> Pici anything for UDS-R ? apart from YouTube channel ( https://www.youtube.com/user/ubuntudevelopers )
[13:36] <chuxxsss> 12.04
[13:37] <bkc_> pailaps: Is it android or bada? :)
[13:37] <Evil_Eric> im on 12.04 now and the distro im leaning towards is ubuntu based
[13:37] <Pici> ritz: Not that I'm aware of, sorry.
[13:37] <_cronus_> harovali1, try iptables -t nat -L -n
[13:37] <bkc_> Evil_Eric: I'm guessing mint? :)
[13:37] <pailaps> however network manager doesnt see the phone, its bada :(
[13:37] <chuxxsss> I stuff up I had backtrack on it for a while.
[13:37] <Evil_Eric> good guess
[13:37] <harovali1> _cronus_: thanks
[13:37] <chuxxsss> gpg failing
[13:38] <bkc_> Evil_Eric: Then we can take it too priv or to #mint :)
[13:38] <pailaps> the hex id is 04e8:6818
[13:38] <bkc_> !mint > bkc_
[13:38] <chuxxsss> as well but update sometimes go figure
[13:38] <bkc_> Evil_Eric: #linuxmint-help to be more specific :)
[13:39] <BluesKaj> sevenforall, to reinstall grub to the ubuntu drive , boot into ubuntu live media (cd or usb), find the ubuntu drive designation with sudo fdisk -l , then run: 'sudo grub-install /dev/sdX , X being number assigned to the ubuntu drive where grub should be installed
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> pailaps: and what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> chuxxsss: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[13:40] <pailaps> im using precise
[13:40] <bkc_> pailaps: bada 2.0?
[13:40] <pailaps> bkc_, bada 1.1
[13:40] <bkc_> pailaps: have you setup your phone for tethering? :)
[13:41] <chuxxsss> http://pastebin.com/NpCuhzWn ActionParsnip
[13:41] <pailaps> bkc_, that was my first thought, but for some reason its borked and cannot establish a connection
[13:41] <bkc_> pailaps: that one is a bit more tricky :/
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> pailaps: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G
[13:41] <pailaps> i would have just used thethering
[13:42] <pailaps> i tryed : sudo modprobe usbserial vendor=0x04e8 product=0x6818
[13:42] <chuxxsss> precise ActionParsnip
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> chuxxsss: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[13:44] <pailaps> bkc_, im going to try to create a configuration for wvdial, to see where it leads to
[13:44] <chuxxsss> mmmm waiting ActionParsnip
[13:44] <pailaps> laptop can see the phone, so in theory it should work
[13:45] <pailaps> bkc_ or should i just upgrade to bada 2.0 to see if tethering will work again?
[13:46] <bkc_> pailaps: if you CAN update to bada 2.0 I'd suggest you do that. preferably on windows in samsungs provided application :)
[13:47] <pailaps> bkc_, i really do hate samsung kies, its so bloated, and windows makes my laptop go to crawl , but hey, i can always boot back to xubuntu and do my work
[13:47] <chuxxsss> just sitting on 20% :( ActionParsnip
[13:47] <leeloogirl> hey guys
[13:47] <bkc_> pailaps: I know the felling, I've had my fair share of Kies-nightmares too ;)
[13:47] <chuxxsss> connection fail for gpg release
[13:49] <chuxxsss> connection fail for gpg release. ActionParsnip
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> chuxxsss: tried setting a different update server?
[13:50] <xbox> siema
[13:50] <chuxxsss> Did that all ready. dep mod running now. ActionParsnip
[13:50] <xbox> aaa ok
[13:50] <xbox> i dont understand
[13:51] <xbox> nara
[13:52] <chuxxsss> No good will change server. ActionParsnip
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> chuxxsss: can you re-pastebin the:  sudo apt-get update
[13:54] <chuxxsss> ok.
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> chuxxsss: thanks
[13:56] <tyl> i love ubuntu!
[13:57] <tyl> i love unbuntu!
[13:57] <tyl> 3 cheers!
[13:57] <chuxxsss> http://pastebin.com/ez5N0S5p No thank you for your help mate. ActionParsnip
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> chuxxsss: I thought you said you changed source?
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> chuxxsss: you may want to also run:   sudo apt-get --purge autoremove     to clean up
[13:59] <kevin89> tyl: That's only 2
[13:59] <poetonh> hello to everyone. i am a new ubuntu user with a small problem :)
[13:59] <kevin89> poetonh: What might that be?
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> chuxxsss: I also recommend you remove some of those old kernels, you will get a tonne of space back
[14:00] <Minusvirus> re
[14:00] <poetonh> hi kevin, i yesterday installed the unity webapps preview on my ubuntu 12.04. when i uninstall it (because it did not work) my unity desktop vanishes on the next restart.
[14:00] <chuxxsss> On it.
[14:01] <poetonh> i can repair that but that just installs the web apps preview again and now gwibber wont  work correcty.
[14:02] <chuxxsss> Best way to remove kernels? ActionParsnip
[14:02] <kevin89> poetonh: I see ... unfortunately my very first action on a fresh Ubuntu install is to remove unity for something else  :/
[14:02] <kevin89> poetonh: What are you talking to me from right now?
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> chuxxsss: there is no singel best way
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> chuxxsss: what is the output of:  uname -a
[14:03] <designbybeck> Can someone help me understand the Guest login for Ubuntu 12.10? Can the user run all applications/programs? Are their files deleted after the logout? Can they access the Internet?
[14:04] <poetonh> i am talking from my ubuntu, if thats what you ask. I got it to work with the webapps preview reinstalled. But unfortunately gwibber refuses to make any search for me now.
[14:04] <designbybeck> I'm thinking of going with Ubuntu for our Public Access computer instead of the current Kubuntu 12.04 setup
[14:04] <dr_willis> designbybeck:  the files they make get cleaned out after they logut
[14:04] <dr_willis> designbybeck:  they can run all apps.
[14:04] <designbybeck> ok thank you dr_willis, that might be a better solution
[14:04] <dr_willis> There are Koisk type distros out there for a more locked down aystem
[14:04] <holstein> dr_willis: i went with a readonly /home.. or mostly
[14:05] <holstein> dr_willis: i mess pessulus :/
[14:05] <holstein> miss*
[14:05] <chuxxsss> Linux ubuntu 3.2.0-32-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 26 21:33:09 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux ActionParsnip
[14:05] <designbybeck> holstein: is that not being made anymore?
[14:05] <holstein> sure.. but its for gnome2
[14:05] <designbybeck> ahhh
[14:06] <holstein> i think the trend is more like a mac anyway, or a phone... where you can really change much out of the box... not that that is bad
[14:06] <blackbird34> @nothingspecial could you kindly help me with a thread I posted on the hardware section of ubuntuforums? I can't boot my computer at all
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> chuxxsss: http://pastebin.com/LktNgisH    will leave you with 2 kernels. You have a -33 kernel too, so next time you reboot you will load the newer kernel
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> chuxxsss: gets you back 1.2Gb of space
[14:07] <nothingspecial> blackbird34, join #ubuntuforums
[14:08] <Catachan_> Anybody here have experience with Ubuntu on Chrome Books?
[14:09] <chuxxsss> I wish this was my amiga then I could do two thing at once apt-get style. ActionParsnip
[14:09] <fluitfries> anyone recommend a better rss app than Thunderbird?
[14:10] <poetonh> wll try it at askubuntu, maybe someone has a solution :)
[14:11] <dr_willis> fluitfries:  like google reader? ;)
[14:12] <fluitfries> dr_willis, i used to use it, but i want something local on my OS.  something about google tracking all my reads makes me uncomfrtable.
[14:12] <dr_willis> !info feedly
[14:12] <dr_willis> I erad most of mine on my phone.
[14:12] <daschel>  Ive been having fan speed annoyances on my new laptop.  I have switchable graphics cards, so i first thought it was drivers, but having installed the appropriate ones, it is still happening.  The fans kick on at 27.8 C at what seem like random points.  the temperature doesn't rise any before it kicks on, and the temperature doesnt fall when they shut off.  is there something else i should check?
[14:13] <holstein> !info straw
[14:13] <holstein> !info raggle
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: feedindicator imho
[14:14] <poetonh> fluitfries: Rssowl
[14:14] <holstein> !info liferea
[14:14] <fluitfries> dr_willis, also, a lot of my feeds have audio attached to them, it would be nice to dl the audio within the same app
[14:14] <blackbird34> Hi, I can't boot and i'm getting a  "kernel panic - not syncing: out of memory and no killable processes" message, and can't boot from liveUSB of with SUperGrub2 disk to fix it, can anyone help?
[14:14] <DaemonicApathy> fluitfries: I use liferea - works excellently imho.
[14:14] <holstein> blackbird34: i would test the hardware then.. if a live CD cant boot, your OS is out of the equation
[14:14] <fluitfries> DaemonicApathy, would it grab audio files too you think?
[14:14] <DigitalYeti> does anyone know if there is a separate ubuntu irc channel for networking issues?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> chuxxsss: if you edit /etc/apt/sources.list        change:  archive.ubuntu.com     to:   gb.archive.ubuntu.com     save the new file and run:   sudo  apt-get update
[14:15] <DaemonicApathy> fluitfries: I haven't tried it for that. Do you have a feed I can test it on?
[14:15] <andrea_> can i use sed against a variable?
[14:15] <fluitfries> DaemonicApathy, one sec
[14:15] <jpds> fluitfries: lightread.
[14:15] <mads-> I'm running 11.04. And now a special update manager is popping up and telling me that I should upgrade, even though I have said I don't want the update manager to pop up. Any way I can force the new "update your ubuntu version" to stop bugging me?
[14:15] <blackbird34> I ran a test on the hard drive supplied in my bios and it said the drive was OK holstein
[14:15] <holstein> daschel: is it just the noise?... mine kicks on and off on battery
[14:16] <holstein> blackbird34: cool... and the memory?
[14:16] <fluitfries> DaemonicApathy, try this http://feeds.feedburner.com/GVSB
[14:16] <fluitfries> hang on guys let me write all these suggestions down
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: http://cloudfront.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/feedindicator-500x308.png     http://code.google.com/p/feedindicator/downloads/detail?name=feedindicator_1.05-1.deb
[14:16] <chuxxsss> I will do that now. ActionParsnip
[14:16] <daschel> holstein: what do you mean "is it just the noise?" as in, is it just the noise that bothers me?  also, it happens regardless of whether im plugged in or not
[14:17] <blackbird34> i can't find anywhere to test that holstein, my grub is Grub 2.00 beta 4 and can't find memtest in it...
[14:17] <DaemonicApathy> fluitfries: video and audio, no issues.
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> blackbird34: try reinstalling the memtest package
[14:17] <holstein> blackbird34: i boot a live CD... and actual cd.. or a USB stick that i know boots. test an known booting USB stick or cd
[14:17] <fluitfries> DaemonicApathy, ty
[14:17] <DaemonicApathy> Any time.
[14:18] <Catachan_> I need some help with my ChrUbuntu install
[14:18] <lollko> rr
[14:18] <bazhang> Catachan_, what is chrubuntu
[14:18] <holstein> blackbird34: check the bios and make sure its configured as expected.. if it wont boot, i realize you are having a hard time doing anything... but, you can take the hard drive out, and see that its not an issue with the installed OS, and move on to the manufacturer
[14:19] <Catachan_> Ubuntu for Chrome Books.
[14:19] <fluitfries> ActionParsnip, DaemonicApathy jpds dr_willis poetonh thanks for the suggestions
[14:19] <bazhang> Catachan_, is that from google?
[14:19] <holstein> Catachan_: i might try http://www.ubuntu.com/download/arm
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Catachan_: ubuntu spinoffs are not supported here
[14:20] <dr_willis> I got ChromeOS installed on my UBuntu box. :) as a 'desktop' option. ;)
[14:20] <dr_willis> I belive some of the new Chromebooks are not ARM based also.
[14:20] <holstein> Catachan_: that'll cause an error... trying arm if you dont need arm
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> holstein: arm is groovy :)
[14:21] <blackbird34> holstein: don't have any of the tools for that, but the BIOS ought to be ok, when i boot from my hard drive it gets past the BIOS, past the GRUB menu, and then gives me the "kernel panic - not syncing: out of memory and no killable processes" message.
[14:21] <thesadmafioso> How can I back up my current kernel image if I am going to try a newer one?
[14:21] <Haris> Hello
[14:21] <daschel> holstein: what do you mean "is it just the noise?" as in, is it just the noise that bothers me?  also, it happens regardless of whether im plugged in or not
[14:21] <Haris> Does the Ubutu 11.10 installer support the Dell PERC 6/i raid controller ?
[14:22] <holstein> blackbird34: i would just rule out terms like "ought" and just actually test firmly as much as possible.. i would try booting an earlier kernel from grub
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> thesadmafioso: no need, just install the other kenrnel, the newer kernel doesn't overwrite the old, it is installed side-by-side
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> Haris: Oneiric doesn't have a great deal of time left compared to Precise. Why not install the LTS?
[14:23] <holstein> daschel: im just sharing the case on my machine in which i notice the fan.. and yes, by noise i mean noise.. like the noise you hear.. or is it the performance? what is the issue?
[14:23] <thesadmafioso> ActionParsnip: Ok thank you
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> thesadmafioso: if the kernel is no good, hold SHIFT at boot and select the original kernel
[14:23] <metaphysician> Isn't the precise package linux-image-current-generic supposed to point to kernel v 3.5 that was released with quantal?
[14:24] <thesadmafioso> ActionParsnip: If it turns at all is ok is there any need to remove the older kernel?
[14:24] <holstein> blackbird34: ^^ hold shift as ActionParsnip is suggesting to see an earlier kernel
[14:24] <cindirella> STAT SOUND DOSN'T
[14:24] <cindirella> stat sound doesn't
[14:25] <cindirella> start sound doesn't
[14:25] <dr_willis> it helps if you type in complete sentences
[14:25] <holstein> cindirella: i'll assume that is "the startup sound doesnt sound"... do you have any sound?
[14:26] <cindirella> it doesn't work anymore, how to pristine
[14:26] <metaphysician> or, how to install quantal's kernel in precise?
[14:26] <holstein> metaphysician: i would try just grabbing the .deb's and expect problems
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> thesadmafioso: you can if you want, your call
[14:27] <daschel> holstein:  it comes on needlessly.  aside from the seemingly random intervals it comes on, it also kicks on when i do just about anything: open an application, open a browser tab, switch windows.  and when it runs, it runs for about the same amount of time regardless of what i do(i.e. switching browser tabs runs the fan for just as long as opening a movie)
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> metaphysician: its not advised or supoprted
[14:27] <holstein> cindirella: you mean, pristine as a verb? can i help you find a loco channel?
[14:27] <bazhang> metaphysician, never mix between versions
[14:27] <holstein> !loco
[14:28] <thesadmafioso> ActionParsnip: All right, as always you've been helpful.
[14:28] <metaphysician> bazhang: holstein why doesn't precise's linux-image-current-generic point to the quantal's kernel?
[14:28] <Night-hacks> is it possible to disable USB charging on Ubuntu ?
[14:28] <holstein> daschel: well, it's coming on assmingly as-needed... you want the fan to not come on? or just stay on? i might try some live cd's to see how other kernels work with the system
[14:28] <holstein> Night-hacks: AFAIK, that is hardware based
[14:29] <dr_willis> I have laptops that charge over usb even when they are powered off.  ;)
[14:29] <Night-hacks> holstein: It's OS responsibility !?
[14:29] <holstein> dr_willis: i have seen that as well.. its odd
[14:30] <dr_willis> makes a handy cell phone charger ;)
[14:30] <theadmin> Night-hacks: No, it's not -- the USB port is powered, so the power obviously goes into whatever you put in there
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> Night-hacks:   the port will always kick 5v down the port, so that new devices plugged in get power
[14:30] <holstein> Night-hacks: im saying, im pretty certain if you had no hard drive in that machine, started it up, and plugged a USB device in, it'll charge, and i dont think you can "switch" that off
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> Night-hacks: its part of the whole plug-and-play
[14:30] <metaphysician> bazhang: ok. won't mix versions. but was curious since the package's description says it will depend on the latest released kernel upto 14.04.
[14:31] <Night-hacks> So it's related to BIOS stuff
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> Night-hacks: sure, the BIOS sets up the hardware
[14:31] <Night-hacks> Thanks for help
[14:32] <designbybeck> Ubunut 12.10 uses LightDM or GDM?
[14:32] <theadmin> designbybeck: lightdm by default.
[14:32] <holstein> Night-hacks: its related to hardware.. not even bios im thinking.. the port just sends it
[14:32] <designbybeck> thank you theadmin
[14:32] <Night-hacks> holstein: yes it's like disabling webcam from bios
[14:33] <holstein> Night-hacks: i dont think you can.. try it.. im pretty certain you disable the usb port, and the usb devices wont show, but they will charge
[14:33] <dr_willis> cant say ive had a laptop with a disable webcam option in the bios.. i needed that for my last laptop with a broke webcam
[14:33] <dr_willis> There was a setting to turn on/off that 'alwayus powered usb port;
[14:34] <daschel> holstein: no need to be condescending.  it's ok to say you dont know the answer.
[14:35] <theadmin> Night-hacks: The question has nothing to do with Ubuntu anyway, try ##hardware
[14:35] <holstein> daschel: cool.. i mean no harm, and literally just want to know if you'd like the fan on or off... what would "fix" this for you... i'll defer to one of the other volunteers :) good luck!
[14:36] <Night-hacks> theadmin: I'm using Ubuntu !
[14:36] <theadmin> Night-hacks: Right, uh, "my air conditioner broke. I'm using Ubuntu so help me fix it" <- That's pretty much what you're asking :P
[14:36] <theadmin> Night-hacks: No offense meant
[14:37] <theadmin> Night-hacks: Your issue is a hardware issue (not even a driver issue), so ##hardware is the place
[14:37] <Night-hacks> theadmin: ok, got the point
[14:37] <theadmin> Night-hacks: Still though, why don't you want your USB devices to charge? It's a useful feature
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> Night-hacks: can you disable the webcam in bios?
[14:38] <Night-hacks> theadmin: i configured USB, reverse tethering to avoid battery draining for wifi
[14:38] <Night-hacks> ActionParsnip:  yes
[14:38] <OerHeks> Night-hacks, some machines can disable usb port power. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/power-off-usb-509328/
[14:38] <blackbird34> hi again holstein i've just tried a different kernel, same result. I'm also waitng for Unetbootin to finish doing me a new LIveUSB image.
[14:39] <OerHeks> not all chipsets can
[14:39] <theadmin> Night-hacks: Right... That'll avoid battery draining. You can charge *and* use reverse tethering, or no?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> Night-hacks: does that not achieve the goal?
[14:39] <holstein> blackbird34: i would try any kerenels.. have you changed any hardware? added? removed?
[14:39] <blackbird34> No
[14:40] <Night-hacks> theadmin: it would affect battery on long term
[14:40] <Night-hacks> ActionParsnip: nothing to do with USB charging there
[14:40] <Night-hacks> OerHeks: thanks
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Night-hacks: the webcam is attached to the USB bus
[14:40] <blackbird34> holstein: BUt i had several kernels for my Fuduntu, Linux Mint and UBuntu installs, no success yet
[14:41] <Night-hacks> ActionParsnip: have to check that to make sure, you're right
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> Night-hacks: lsusb    will show the camera
[14:41] <holstein> blackbird34: if every OS and live CD is failing, i would look at the hardware
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> blackbird34: how does it not work?
[14:42] <fluitfries> how come xchat doesn't open links with single click?  i always have to right-click and "open in browser"  :(
[14:42] <blackbird34> When I boot from my hard drive, i get a "kernel panic - not syncing: out of memory and no killable processes" message. See also http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2084744
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: under what release?
[14:43] <Evil_Eric> ello ello
[14:43] <blackness> ive never seen xchat open links with a single click.
[14:43] <fluitfries> ActionParsnip, 2.8.8 lubuntu 64 latest updates installed.
[14:43] <fluitfries> ActionParsnip, xchat 2.8.8
[14:43] <theadmin> blackbird34: "out of memory". Do you have enough RAM? Is your RAM working?
[14:44] <Sonicadvance1> Anyone have a dump of glxinfo from Mesa 9.0 that is from swrast or gallium3D "drivers"?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: any bugs reported?
[14:44] <fluitfries> blackness, right-click on my trackpad is a bit of a pain...
[14:44] <fluitfries> ActionParsnip, i'll take a look
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> fluitfries: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[14:44] <blackness> yes i know..i use it too.
[14:44]  * Evil_Eric waves in actionparsnips general direction 
[14:44] <fluitfries> ActionParsnip, precise
[14:45] <blackness> 12.04 :P
[14:45] <|Slacker|> fluitfries, you can set it up in Settings > Advanced > URL Handlers under Xchat
[14:45] <blackbird34> I did a startup test under "system diagnostics" in my BIOS tools, and says all my 2GB of RAM are fine, I don't get it theadmin
[14:45] <blackness> that doesnt change the URL behaviour |Slacker|
[14:45] <theadmin> blackbird34: Hm, odd enough. How did you make the Ubuntu liveusb?
[14:46] <Evil_Eric> lili
[14:46] <fluitfries> blackness, |Slacker|, it might work, because here it is saying "opera" not chromium
[14:46] <|Slacker|> Open Link in Opera: !opera -remote 'openURL(%s)'
[14:46] <blackbird34> With Unetbootin, as usual, on my other computer that runs Ubuntu 12.04 like this one
[14:46] <|Slacker|> then I single click and Opera opens the link
[14:46] <blackness> opera is the default browser for xchat
[14:46] <theadmin> blackbird34: There's your problem, unetbootin doesn't work half the time
[14:47] <blackness> blackbird34, to make a bootable usb drive the easier, install usb-creator-gtk/kde
[14:47] <vic501> Hello everyone, I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 with Unity and each time when I log in, after about 20 seconds, a window appears "enter password for keyring 'default' to unlock". Is there perhaps a way to automatically remember that password ?
[14:47] <|Slacker|> blackness, didn't know that :p
[14:47] <theadmin> blackbird34: do: sudo dd if=/somewhere/ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdb # Where /somewhere is the directory where the ISO resides and /dev/sdb is your USB stick. Note: use the whole drive (sdb) not the partition (sdb1)
[14:47] <fluitfries> |Slacker|, i replaced opera with "chromium" but it still does not work.  :(
[14:47] <BTCOxyg9> Hi
[14:48] <blackness> what you need to twiddle with is..sec
[14:48] <vic501> And what is that 'default' keyring ? If I cancel the window without password, I can still use the computer without any problems ... ?
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> vic501: one way is to set a blank password for the keyring
[14:48] <bkc_> vic501: have tried to cancel it? :)
[14:48] <bkc_> also what ActionParsnip said :)
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> vic501: its what stores your passwords from yourbrowser and nautilus for remote file systems and so forth
[14:48] <blackness> "/set gui_url_mod 0-4" not sure if you have to reload xchat for it to take effect
[14:49] <vic501> ActionParsnip: so just esc when the window appears ? For remote file systems you say, so I don't need that for 'normal use' ?
[14:49] <|Slacker|> fluitfries, Dang! I thought it would work. But I had no idea Opera was default for xchat :(
[14:50] <blackness> gui_url_mod set this to 0, and it should make clickable links.
[14:50] <OerHeks> fluitfries, it is an security for not opening url's unwanted, to avoid that, hold CTRL and you can click the url without right mouse etc
[14:50] <OerHeks> found @ http://xchat.org/faq/#q221
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> vic501: go to security in dash and set the password as nothing, you will need your current password to then set it
[14:50] <blackness> fluitfries, http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=1966 read this.
[14:50] <fluitfries> OerHeks, YAY!  you got it.  thanks.
[14:51] <blackness> OerHeks, thats a keybinding, setting gui_url_mod to 0 should create clickable links.
[14:51] <vic501> ActionParsnip: okay, that's easy enough. Thanks a lot.
[14:51] <OerHeks> blackness, indeed, that is mentioned there also
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> vic501: its not hugely secure but its your call
[14:51] <fluitfries> blackness, that's ok tho, i can handle pressing ctrl...  much easier than my right-click
[14:52] <blackbird34> theadmin: just typed in the command, is it normal for it to not give any comments while it's working?
[14:52] <blackness> i wouldnt want links opened when clicked once..lil unsafe.
[14:52] <theadmin> blackbird34: Yes, it will take a while, after that it'll come out with *something* like 100500+0 records in, 100500+0 records out, 700MB written
[14:52] <fluitfries> blackness, yea, i see the sense in that.
[14:52] <blackness> i think i might try setting up wordpress :P
[14:52] <theadmin> blackbird34: Can't remember the exact numbers it gives
[14:53] <blackbird34> theadmin: ok thanks then i'll go and do some washing :)
[14:53] <blackness> you can check the status of dd if you want with kill
[14:54] <vic501> ActionParnsip: Perhaps it's better to just close the window with esc then ?
[14:54] <blackness> killall -USR1 dd
[14:54] <lind> just curios for those that upgraded to 12.10 how's it compare to LTS 12.04?
[14:54] <blackness> shows you the progress of dd.
[14:54] <blackness> lind, i like 12.10
[14:54] <james_bhat> hi
[14:55] <blackness> except that audacious doesnt work anymore..BUT i got mpd+hotkeys working so im okay with this.
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> lind: its not bad, there are some nice bells and whistles
[14:55] <blackness> ActionParsnip, what bells an whistles?
[14:55] <kevin89> lind: It's basically the same with some nice polish, and amazon enabled results in the HUD by default
[14:56] <Feliwir> hey
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> lind: blackness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3IpXE2bYv0
[14:56] <lind> cool I'm thinking whether to upgrade or not
[14:56] <Feliwir> i tried to install skype on my amd64 ubuntu
[14:56] <blackness> great, amazon loves getting involved with everything eh
[14:56] <Feliwir> but it failed with this error : wrong platform architecture
[14:56] <blackness> ActionParsnip, youtube is blocked ATM.
[14:56] <theadmin> Feliwir: That will work if you're on multiarch, which you don't seem to be on
[14:56] <Feliwir> eventhough i use the newest multiarch package
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> Feliwir: what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc
[14:56] <blackness> Feliwir, then dont use a 32bit package..
[14:56] <theadmin> Feliwir: You need a more recent Ubuntu version probably?
[14:57] <Feliwir> i use ubuntu 12.10
[14:57] <theadmin> blackness: Skype is 32-bit only
[14:57] <theadmin> Feliwir: Oh, okay, um... Odd.
[14:57] <theadmin> Should just work
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> blackness: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/ubuntu-12-10-beta-2-released
[14:57] <Feliwir> i was in the german irc channel
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> blackness: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=what%27s+new+in+quantal    is all I did
[14:57] <Feliwir> but they didnt know what to do
[14:57] <blackness> i dont like those auto search things..
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> Feliwir: can you give the output of the command I gave please
[14:58] <vitimiti> (·_·)/
[14:58] <blackness> the first URL maybe a joke or outdated :/
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> blackness: its not an 'autosearch thing'
[14:58] <blackness> is it like lmgtfy with a default return of a hit %?
[14:58] <Feliwir> yeah wait a second
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> blackness: how can it be outdated when Quantal was only released a couple of months ago?
[14:59] <blackness> i wish they enabled a tickbox that allows you to disable amazon...
[14:59] <Feliwir> quantal
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> blackness: so all links will be that old
[14:59] <Feliwir> is the output
[14:59] <blackness> ActionParsnip, depends change, packages change, methods get outdated..
[14:59] <dr_willis> I do recall some box to disable amazon. but it disables other things as well.
[14:59] <kevin89> blackness: It's not a tickbox, but they added the ability to disable it. I don't know it off the top of my head but it's easily googled
[14:59] <bazhang> !adlens | black
[14:59] <blackness> my method for cleaning up apt-get, is outdated on 11.10 but on 10.04 its a commonly used method :/
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> Feliwir: wget -O skype.deb http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/downloading.ubuntu64; sudo dpkg -i ./skype.deb; sudo apt-get -f install
[15:00] <james_bhat> i want to try some lab programs, so how can i turn my ubuntu into a local server?
[15:00] <blackness> sweet bazhang
[15:00] <bazhang> see above blackness sorry black
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> blackness: the links given will still only be as old as quantal, so how are they outdated when Quantal is so young?
[15:00] <dr_willis> james_bhat:  that makes no sence.. You install a service.. its a server
[15:00] <kevin89> james_bhat: What kind of server?
[15:00] <blackness> i seen it bazhang
[15:01] <blackness> ActionParsnip, that URL isnt a guide :P its a discussion of 12.10.
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> blackness: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=what%27s+new+in+quantal+%21recent    newest at the top
[15:01] <Sazpaimon> will symbolic links made on linux on an ntfs-3g partition work on windows?
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> blackness: (one reason why duckduckgo is more flexible than google) :)
[15:01] <dr_willis> you cant make symboic links on a ntfs last i checked...
[15:01] <Sazpaimon> yes you can
[15:01] <blackness> how so?
[15:02] <Sazpaimon> the ntfs-3g website says that symbolic links made on windows can be used on linix, but doesn't mention vice versa
[15:02] <Sazpaimon> *linux
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> blackness: can you search google and ask for the newest sites found to be at the top?
[15:02] <james_bhat> kevin89: server to run perl, php programs
[15:02] <dr_willis> NTFS has its own link type feature. but they are not symbolic links
[15:02] <Feliwir> ActionParsip: i've done what you pasted
[15:02] <blackness> uhm, dont know ActionParsnip
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> Sazpaimon: you can symlink to a NTFS partition from Linux
[15:02] <blackness> i filter my results by eye :P
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> blackness: duckduckgo can :)
[15:02] <blackness> and google has, best result percent.
[15:03] <kevin89> james_bhat: You can technically just install perl/php on the machine and then it would technically be a server
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> blackness: why bother when the site does it for you :)
[15:03] <Sazpaimon> ActionParsnip, yes, I know you can make symbolic links on linux on an ntfs-3g partition
[15:03] <blackness> most recent is Oct 23rd.
[15:03] <blackness> for google.
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> blackness: it also has a tonne of other features. I rarely use google search nowadays, its too restrictive imho
[15:03] <Sazpaimon> my question is, will those links be translated to NTFS links so they can be seen on windows
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> blackness: ddg has that too, or you can tweak the results
[15:04] <theadmin> Sazpaimon: NTFS has symlink support as a filesystem, so yes
[15:04] <blackness> ActionParsnip, this set by an account? or cookie-settings?
[15:04] <Sazpaimon> yes, NTFS has symlink support, but I was just asking if ntfs-3g translates between linux symlinks and ntfs symlinks
[15:04] <sins-> anyone have experience building android from source on ubuntu?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> blackness: its set by what you put in the search box
[15:04] <Sazpaimon> since they're not the same thing
[15:04] <Sazpaimon> also, same goes for junction points
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> Sazpaimon: they will be different
[15:05] <james_bhat> kevin89: i have to write a php and html program, need to create a database server, store and retrieve some sample data in it
[15:05] <dr_willis> it just translated a ln -s into a link here. ;)
[15:05] <Sazpaimon> dr_willis, oh great, so ntfs-3g seamlessly works like that
[15:06] <Sazpaimon> that's all I needed to know
[15:06] <dr_willis> biggest issue ive had with NTFS is wonky characters in filenames...
[15:06] <dr_willis> Sazpaimon:  all i did was to go a ntfs and make a link. :) so it worked.
[15:06] <blackness> ill play with duckduckgo
[15:06] <Sazpaimon> dr_willis, yeah, but will that link work when you load the drive in windows?
[15:07] <dr_willis> Sazpaimon:  try it and see. im not rebooting into windows to find out at this time
[15:07] <blackness> Anyone got any openbox tweaks they use? or bashrc tweaks?
[15:07] <Sazpaimon> I'll try it once I figure out why ubuntu's menu bar is not showing on my desktop
[15:07] <dr_willis> blackness:  theres dozens of sites with bash config tools and examples.
[15:07] <Sazpaimon> my guess is that it's because of the experimental nvidia drivers
[15:07] <blackness> dr_willis, i know..all of them show pointless functions.
[15:07] <dr_willis> blackness:  check out the 'bash prompt howto' if you want to play with some fun stuff
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> blackness: try:     !ppa firefox       and    !yt ubuntu        a searches :)
[15:08] <theadmin> dr_willis: "wonky characters in filenames" is resolved by mounting with iocharset=utf8,codepage=1251 or such
[15:08] <dr_willis> theadmin:  problem is  that windows  is the one im getting the names from. :) I have to go to linux to fix them.
[15:08] <theadmin> dr_willis: Oh... Hamsters.
[15:09] <dr_willis> theadmin:  ;) still not sure why windows can make the file.. then hate the name
[15:09] <Sazpaimon> strangely, NTFS directory mounts (made with the mountvol tool on windows), show up in ntfs-3g as /mnt/drv/.NTFS-3g/{drive_guid} or something
[15:09] <iliv> hi, I was wondering why I get different numbers for total security updates when using apt-check and apt-get in this fashion: http://pastie.org/5387885 ?
[15:09] <dr_willis> Youtube videos with Jappense charcters (i think) from youtube downloaders. and some LONG LONG names used in some comic book files was my issues. I think the use of ' also confused them
[15:09] <blackness> Welp, time to work on my openbox setup :)
[15:09] <Sazpaimon> and the directory mount is shown as a symlink to that directory
[15:10] <dr_willis> I need to track down a script that goes down a directory tree and discovers potentially bad filenames and correts them
[15:10] <blackness> what is a badfilename?
[15:11] <dr_willis> Id have to track one down. but i had about 30 comic book cbr files that windows hated. I had to go to linux to rename them, then windows let me manage them
[15:12] <dr_willis> Not sure if it was use of ( ) - , ' or other special characters - or just the huge nested directory structure
[15:12] <dr_willis> the 'qmv' tool was handy in fixing them up
[15:13] <blackness> does ubuntu have drivers to use a touch screen tablet/pc?
[15:14] <theadmin> blackness: Sure does
[15:14] <blackness> dr_willis, ive never seen special chars break on windows when i used it
[15:14] <theadmin> blackness: Depends on how special they are, try using \ in a filename with Windows :P
[15:15] <blackness> well duh, \ isnt special..its unique.
[15:15] <blackness> :)
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> blackness: depends on the hardware
[15:15] <blackbird34> theadmin: even creating the Live USB with dd, following your instructions, I got a similar message to what you said and it didn't boot either, same "kernel panic - not syncing: out of memory and no killable processes" message.
[15:15] <blackness> ActionParsnip, my aim is AcerW500 tablet
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> blackness: some work, some need a lot of work, some just don't work
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> blackness: let me search
[15:16] <mens> which is the best SIP software for Ubuntu 10.04?
[15:16] <mens> Preferable to have the function "hide number"!
[15:16] <james_bhat> dr_willis: i want to use my system as a server, like apache..
[15:16] <blackness> james_bhat, so install apache nginx or lighttpd and serve it ;)
[15:16] <mens> ONLY SIP!
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> blackness: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6T8ZQ-r1O4&feature=youtube_gdata      someone has it working here
[15:17] <blackness> you love youtube dont you? :P
[15:17] <holstein> mens: "best" will be a matter of opinion. i would probably search a package manager and try a few that meet your needs
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> blackness: its just what comes up. Seems to work OOTB
[15:18] <blackness> OOTB = out of the box?
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> blackness: yes
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> blackness: multitouch needs some compiling but it seems to just roll
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> blackness: the vid states that this is needed for multitouch (if it multitouch is something you need): http://lii-enac.fr/en/architecture/linux-input/multitouch-ubuntu-howto.html
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> blackness: may just work in Precise, the page was posted prior to Precise's release
[15:20] <klj613> how do i check how many bytes my private/public key is?
[15:21] <soroam> sasas
[15:21] <gnutun> hey all; on quantal, im having difficulty installing libavcodec-extra-53 and libavcodec-dev at the same time ... is there something im missing?
[15:21] <blackness> what problems gnutun ? use pastebin for 4+ lines
[15:21] <holstein> klj613: http://superuser.com/questions/139310/how-can-i-tell-how-many-bits-my-ssh-key-is might help
[15:22] <bazhang> gnutun, they are held back?
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> !info libavcodec-extra-53
[15:22] <soroam> dsd
 Does have SFLphone hide number function?
 I do not see this information on the official site
 http://sflphone.org/
[15:23] <holstein> mens: i would see if there is a contact form.. or just install and test.. i usually just test and see for myself in those cases
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> oh wow, you can drag the colours in guake's config to the colour settings for text etc. That's sexy :D
[15:24] <gnutun> bazhang, http://pastebin.com/ixen4Vx8
[15:24] <gnutun> bazhang, i dont believe i'm holding anything back
[15:24] <gnutun> bazhang, whenever i attempt to install one, it uninstalls the other
[15:25] <blackness> sounds like a conflict issue..lemme see if i got these installed
[15:25] <bazhang> gnutun, they are different packages
[15:26] <gnutun> bazhang, i understand that libavcodec-53 and libavcodec-extra-53 both provide libavcodec shared libs, with extra providing "non-free" codecs
[15:26] <gnutun> bazhang, but i need the header files installed as well, which are only in the dev package
[15:26] <bazhang> libavcodec53 is what will be installed gnutun
[15:26] <blackness> gnutun, so does ubuntu-restricted-package
 An analogue of Phoner for ubuntu there? I need a program that hides no SIP. phone. No time to test the software!
[15:30] <gnutun> bazhang, i understand that the packages libavcodec53 and libavcodec-extra-53 conflict with each other, since they both provide libavcodec.so.53 with different compilation options
[15:30] <gnutun> bazhang, the problem is that i cant have the dev package installed with the extra library package
[15:31] <WarOfTheNerd> there isn't a libavcodec-extra-53-dev?
[15:31] <bazhang> gnutun, I just faced the same issue
[15:31] <gnutun> WarOfTheNerd, no, unfortunately not
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> !info libavcodec-extra-53-dev
[15:32] <bazhang> 7 packages were held back, including those two gnutun
[15:32] <gnutun> in previous versions of ubuntu, i *believe* i could have the regular dev package and the extra lib package installed simultaneously
[15:32] <gnutun> let me check ...
[15:34] <gnutun> bazhang, yes, on my lucid machine, libavcodec-dev and libavcodec-extra-52 are installed simultaneously
[15:34] <bazhang> gnutun, I'm on 12.10 so no idea about that sorry
[15:35] <archangelpetro> is there an easy way to identify what module is responsible for an interface as defined by 'ifconfig'?
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> can't wait for Lucid to go EOL
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> archangelpetro: sudo lshw -C network
[15:35] <archangelpetro> ty acrocity
[15:36] <archangelpetro> ActionParsnip, *
[15:36] <gnutun> bazhang, i'm just saying that this is broken on quantal, but not on previous ubuntu releases
[15:36] <gnutun> bazhang, i'll report it as a packaging bug and see what happens
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> archangelpetro: look for the driver= bit and the wlan0, eth0 etc
[15:36] <blackness> what version is lucid?
[15:36] <gnutun> 10.04
[15:37] <blackness> lemme check my servers for 10.04 real quick
[15:37] <blackness> nope. i got 11.10 and 8.04 and 12.10
[15:38] <gnutun> blackness, could you try installing libavcodec-dev and libavcodec-extra-53 on 11.10 oneiric?
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> blackness: Hardy (8.04) server is EOL in April next year, may want to plan an upgrade soon
[15:40] <axisys> on my hp .. power button -> suspend does not do anything.. but the ``suspend'' from system setting icon on top right corner works perfect .. what gives?
[15:40] <axisys> hp laptop
[15:41] <axisys> hp laptop 6730b
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> axisys: if you run:    xev    does the button make an event?
[15:42] <blackness> ActionParsnip, i dont want to upgrade my 8.04. i NEVER have problems with it.
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> blackness: you don't have to, youo just won't get any support of any kind anywhere for it
[15:43] <blackness> axisys, what window mgr?
[15:43] <axisys> unity
[15:43] <axisys> blackness: ^
[15:43] <axisys> ActionParsnip: let me check
[15:43] <blackness> ActionParsnip, i know, i have to build patches for security holes.
[15:44] <blackness> axisys, are you using any special key binder? *xbindkeys* for example?
[15:44] <axisys> ActionParsnip: xev shows events
[15:44] <axisys> ActionParsnip: PropertyNotify event, serial 42, synthetic NO, window 0x4c00001, atom 0x150 (_NET_WM_STATE), time 358712091, state PropertyNewValue
[15:44] <jgspratt> Hello. I have a cluster of 1U ubuntu servers that keep going into a hung state.  No numlock response, no VGA, etc.  How can I make ubuntu server not hang automatically?
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut | axisys
[15:45] <axisys> ActionParsnip: button works.. it pops the window.. then selecting suspend does show even in xev .. but does not suspend
[15:45] <axisys> blackness: no
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> axisys: yes, the xev doesn't make the button work
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> axisys: it just shows that it IS sending a signal to the OS, which is the hard part done.
[15:45] <BlackNarcissus> Hello. Anyone here using jabber.org with empathy ? I've been having "self signed" certificate warnings for a month now, and I wonder if it's coming form the server or empathy itself. It's behaving weirdly.
[15:45] <dr_willis>  what does it do instead of suspending?
[15:46] <blackness> axisys, you might need to checkout the !shortcut command, or look into xbindkeys..but i wouldnt use that with unity. maybe openbox, xfce and matching other WM
[15:46] <jgspratt> dr_willis: it gets locked up.
[15:46] <gnutun> bazhang, it actually appears to be a bug with libavutil-dev's deps, which is new in quantal; i'll submit a bug
[15:46] <axisys> ActionParsnip: right.. so when I click the suspend from the pop up window I do see event/signal on xev
[15:46] <axisys> blackness: yep looking
[15:46] <jgspratt> dr_willis: the only thing I can get it to do is to power off by holding the power button down
[15:46] <bazhang> gnutun, good to know. thanks very much for that
[15:46] <axisys> ActionParsnip: thanks for the shortcut
[15:46] <dr_willis> sounds like we are looking at the wrong area then. :) the button is telling the os to suspend.. its trying.. and failing.
[15:47] <dr_willis> but the other methos may be telling it to hibernate not suspend perhaps?
[15:47] <jgspratt> dr_willis: I have to hold the power button down until it turns off hard.
[15:47] <jgspratt> basically the same thing as pulling the physcal plug
[15:47] <dr_willis> its crashing/locking up.. so that makes sence.
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> axisys: you can use the commands in ccsm to set the key to something, or keytouch
[15:47] <jgspratt> right, exactly
[15:47] <dr_willis> so the button is not the issue. ;)
[15:47] <jgspratt> I want to make them not do that anymore
[15:47] <jgspratt> Right, its not the button
[15:48] <blackness> jgspratt, was all these servers built out of a lot of hardware?
[15:48] <jgspratt> I am concerned with ubuntu, which is why I didn't go to #power_button
[15:48] <jgspratt> yes, they were built out of hardware, lots of it
[15:48] <blackness> the lot numbers on each piece of hardware, do they match?
[15:48] <axisys> ActionParsnip: ok.. I am realizing we are talking about key shortcuts.. but I dont think that is the problem I am describing.. let me explain
[15:48] <jgspratt> these are all identical machines.
[15:49] <axisys> ActionParsnip: when I hit the power button I do get the usual Suspend/Restart/Cancel/Shutdown window
[15:49] <blackness> lot number, they are located on a sticker, or mfg date on the actual device, example: memory sticks have them on the side..
[15:49] <axisys> ActionParsnip: so button works fine
[15:49] <jgspratt> SuperMicro H8SGL-F, AMD Opteron 6128 8 Core
[15:49] <blackness> i built 4 machines with matching lot numbers, all of them experienced failing ram around the same time.
[15:50] <axisys> ActionParsnip: then with mouse I click suspend.. nothing happens.. if I click cancel or shutdown with the mouse it does cancel or it does shutdown
[15:50] <jgspratt> oh, no, some are from different lots. the ones that are failing, well, hard to say
[15:50] <jgspratt> they are all white box.
[15:50] <blackness> and if you used matching lot number hardware, you may have a piece failing causing a hangup..disks going out can do this exact behavior.
[15:50] <axisys> so the Suspend probably is not calling the suspend
[15:50] <axisys> ActionParsnip: ^
[15:50] <jgspratt> I don't want the suspend to happen
[15:51] <blackness> jgspratt, install a new drive to one of them, and see if you can get this one to crash..
[15:51] <jgspratt> this is a server cluster that never needs to suspend. they live in a datacenter far away from me usually
[15:51] <jgspratt> what logs can I check first?
[15:51] <blackness> uhm, log/messages log/dmesg*
[15:51] <jgspratt> we are trying to run an important production thing on them and they only seem to crash after 12 hours
[15:51] <jgspratt> or more
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> axisys: yes, you need to tell the OS that when it gets that signal it needs to suspend
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> axisys: the key is making a signal, the oS doesn't know what to do with it so nothing happens
[15:52] <jgspratt> thing is, they were logging all night long it seems.  until at about an hour before I got on site
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> axisys: that has been my point the entire time
[15:52] <deepm> hello, in my /var/lib/dpkg/status appears to be a package that doesn't really exist
[15:52] <blackness> jgspratt, only time ive seen this was failed hw..or a poorly written script left to run
[15:52] <deepm> I can't find anything when I google it
[15:53] <jgspratt> that's bad news. what would I do to check that the hardware failed?
[15:53] <blackness> you can test the hardware.
[15:53] <jgspratt> there is no /var/log/messages.  what's the alternative?
[15:53] <blackness> not sure of the exact command line tools..but if you got remote X/VNC use gparted.
[15:53] <deepm> it gives back an error at this point when I try to update
[15:53] <axisys> so I need to fix the Suspend signal that generates by clicking on the Suspend button of the popup windowi with mouse ..
[15:53] <axisys> ActionParsnip: ^
[15:54] <blackness> what error deepm?
[15:54] <blackness> use pastebin for 4+ lines deepm
[15:54] <jgspratt> blackness: I'm getting a log of "21.560052] w83795 0-002f: Failed to read from register 0x089, err -5"
[15:54] <axisys> ActionParsnip: let me scroll back and reread your suggestions
[15:54] <deepm> Reading package lists... Error!
[15:54] <deepm> E: Malformed status line, no 2nd word
[15:54] <deepm> E: Error occurred while processing loaales (UsePackage3)
[15:54] <deepm> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status
[15:54] <deepm> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> axisys: you need to use ccsm or keytouch so that when you press the key it runs:  pm-suspend
[15:54] <blackness> jgspratt, sounds like something is breaking..
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> deepm: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[15:55] <blackness> deepm, your dpkg status file looks borked.
[15:55] <deepm> what can I do?
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> fixpackage to the rescue!
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> deepm: use that big command I gave
[15:55] <jgspratt> blackness: what kind of thing?
[15:55] <deepm> thanks
[15:55] <jgspratt> what are those registeres do you think?
[15:56] <blackness> jgspratt, sudo lshw, and check your hardware for known issues..then test accordly
[15:56] <jgspratt> is that RAM? or processor registers?
[15:56] <blackness> they could be ANYTHING..
[15:56] <blackness> lemme google.
[15:56] <jgspratt> cash registers?
[15:56] <blackness> what ubuntu version we working with?
[15:57] <shojo> hi everyone
[15:57] <shojo> except the hate ball
[15:57] <jgspratt> blackness: Linux sn06-ny2 2.6.38-11-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Mon Sep 12 21:17:25 UTC 2011 x86_64
[15:57] <blackness> lsb_release -a
[15:57] <shojo> ..who hates me :)
[15:57] <blackness> thats a old kernel :P
[15:57] <jgspratt> Ubuntu 11.04
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> jgspratt: natty is EOL
[15:58] <blackness> can you upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10?
[15:58] <kaneshiro> hi guys
[15:58] <kaneshiro> i need some help pls
[15:58] <shojo> ouch wrong channel ,so sorry
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> kaneshiro: state your issue on one line and we'll try
[15:58] <talexb> The problem's on line 42.
[15:58] <kaneshiro> running 12.10
[15:58] <kaneshiro> i'm behind a firewall ... company
[15:58] <axisys> ActionParsnip: in case you are curious all these signals generates when I click the suspend key.. http://dpaste.com/832121/
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> kaneshiro: please hit ENTER less
[15:59] <blackness> jgspratt, i only got two results, both claim MSIC Intel driver notations.
[15:59] <kaneshiro> getting failure with apt-get update
[15:59] <axisys> 10:55:26 < ActionParsnip> axisys: you need to use ccsm or keytouch so that when  you press the key it runs:  pm-suspend
[15:59] <axisys> ActionParsnip: ^ I never press the suspend key
[15:59] <axisys> ActionParsnip: rather click the suspend key
[15:59] <jgspratt> blackness: lshw: http://hastebin.com/qamajohoto.sm
[15:59] <kaneshiro> i can access it thru browswer .... i've put in proxy via termain export
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> axisys: where is the 'suspend key'?
[15:59] <kaneshiro> terminal*
[15:59] <axisys> ActionParsnip: my laptop does not have touch screen
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> axisys: I thought you had a little hard button on the system that was suposed to invoke suspend...?
[16:00] <blackness> jgspratt, is there a PCI line to match that error -5 line?
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> axisys: is that right?
[16:01] <axisys> ActionParsnip: http://picpaste.com/suspend-F7QTixpY.png
[16:01] <axisys> ActionParsnip: that window pops up when I hit the hard power button
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> axisys: ok and you want that to stop?
[16:01] <jgspratt> blackness: which part of the error should I search for?  I'm looking...
[16:02] <Sazpaimon> after attaching a secondary monitor, my synaptics touchpad has slow vertical movement, but fast horizontal movement
[16:02] <axisys> ActionParsnip: I want it suspend when I mouse over to Suspend and click it
[16:02] <Sazpaimon> how can I fix this?
[16:02] <Sazpaimon> Because right now, it's completely unusable
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> axisys: you can set the actions of the OS when you press power button in the power options
[16:02] <axisys> ActionParsnip: I like the choice
[16:02] <blackness> anything before the line, or after the line that would referr to a irq or pci id
[16:02] <axisys> ActionParsnip: it used to work with ubunut 11.10
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> axisys: then you are getting a choice, when the window comes up....
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> axisys: you have thrown in so many things to this it isn't making any sense now
[16:03] <axisys> ActionParsnip: yes.. button works.. mouse click on suspend does not
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> axisys: ahh so the cog menu doesn't suspend when you click it?
[16:03] <axisys> ActionParsnip: you got it!
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> axisys: yay
[16:04] <Sazpaimon> it looks like the system is scaling the touchpad speed to the dimensions of the virtual screen
[16:04] <axisys> ActionParsnip: educate me the right way to describe this.. apologize for confusion
[16:04] <Sazpaimon> so if I have my two screens side by side, the touchpad makes the horizontal acceleration as it would be for a very wide display
[16:04] <jgspratt> blackness: dmesg: http://hastebin.com/pixiqoqola.coffee
[16:05] <Sazpaimon> I don't want this, can I make it work like how it does for a single display?
[16:05] <jgspratt> blackness: (and thanks for all your help! much appreciated!)
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> axisys: "I cannot suspend from the option under the cog menu but when I press my power button and click suspend it is ok"
[16:05] <kaneshiro> ActionParsnip:
[16:05] <axisys> ActionParsnip: whats cog ?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> axisys: the menu in the top right of the screen.
[16:05] <axisys> ActionParsnip: then you reveresed it .. :P
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> axisys: ahhh, so the power button susped fails but selecting the menu and clicking suspend is ok?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> axisys: from the power button is ok.
[16:06] <axisys> suspend from cog menu works.. but when I press power button and click suspend it does not work
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> kaneshiro: sup?
[16:06] <deepm> ActionParsnip: the command ended after some time with an error
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> axisys: are there any bugs reported?
[16:06] <jgspratt> blackness: do you know what err -5 is?  google gives a bunch for err -6, which is related to fans maybe
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> deepm: what is the error?
[16:07] <kaneshiro> ActionParsnip: I am unable to apt-get, i get 404 error. Under a firewall, but i am able to hit it via browser. I've put in the proxy via terminal (export) and thru network settings, hence why i can get their via browser
[16:07] <axisys> ActionParsnip: http://askubuntu.com/questions/210900/ubuntu-12-10-gnome-3-6-suspend-button-does-not-work
[16:07] <deepm> Reading package lists... Error!
[16:07] <deepm> E: Malformed status line, no 2nd word
[16:07] <deepm> E: Error occurred while processing loaales (UsePackage3)
[16:07] <deepm> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status
[16:07] <deepm> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[16:07] <axisys> ActionParsnip: ^ not sure if that is relevant
[16:07] <axisys> ActionParsnip: I use unity
[16:07] <blackness> if err -6 is fans, you could have a fan issue..i know if the CPU fan fails, the system shuts down on some systems
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> axisys: sounds like a permissions thing to me
[16:07] <blackness> like my server, if i manually stop the fan for 2 seconds, the system shuts down
[16:08] <axisys> ActionParsnip: hmm.. after ubuntu upgrade to 12.04 it stopped working
[16:08] <axisys> now I am 12.10 and still no wrking
[16:08] <axisys> ActionParsnip: ^
[16:09] <jgspratt> blackness: I don't have -6 though. I have -5. much rarer.  The fans are going. I can hear them.
[16:09] <axisys> ActionParsnip: what is cog abbreviated for? will help to remember
[16:09] <blackness> if you can hear them, then you have VGA access yes?
[16:10] <dr_willis> its a gear - a gear is also called a cog. ;)
[16:10] <dr_willis> or a sprocket
[16:10] <kaneshiro> ActionParsnip: :( ur too busy
[16:10] <deepm> ActionParsnip: sorry the error is even bigger and it contains the old one:
[16:10] <deepm> Reading package lists... Error!
[16:10] <deepm> E: Malformed status line, no 2nd word
[16:10] <deepm> E: Error occurred while processing loaales (UsePackage3)
[16:10] <deepm> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status
[16:10] <deepm> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[16:10] <deepm> Reading package lists... Error!
[16:10] <deepm> E: Malformed status line, no 2nd word
[16:10] <kaneshiro> anyone else can help me?
[16:10] <FloodBot1> deepm: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> kaneshiro: I'm not that busy
[16:10] <jgspratt> blackness: VGA access? I can access the plug.
[16:10] <deepm> E: Error occurred while processing loaales (UsePackage3)
[16:10] <deepm> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status
[16:10] <deepm> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[16:11] <jgspratt> blackness: but that doesn't mean I get output :(
[16:11] <blackness> i take it X isnt installed either?
[16:11] <blackness> oh damn.
[16:11] <kaneshiro> ActionParsnip: did you see my issue?
[16:11] <blackness> i was going to suggest to run gparted.
[16:11] <jgspratt> well, when I reboot I can get access
[16:11] <jgspratt> I'm sshed in now
[16:11] <kaneshiro> ActionParsnip: apparently its very common,. but i'm like brain dead..i jus need a second pair of eyes
[16:12] <blackness> i strongly suggest a drive swap and let that machine run for a week..and see if it crashes.
[16:12] <blackness> if not then i'd suspect HW failure..
[16:12] <jgspratt> any other logs to check for what might have happened last night?
[16:12] <blackness> let me check.
[16:12] <balazs> Hello, I'm seeing a weird thing with my 12.04 installation all of a sudden. about half the time the mouse registers a doubleclick even if I just want to click once. It's an optical mouse, and I'm pretty sure my fingers aren't shaking.
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> kaneshiro: did you configure the proxy in /etc/apt/apt.conf
[16:13] <blackness> is pm-powersaved enabled?
[16:13] <kaneshiro> i did
[16:13] <kaneshiro> ActionParsnip: I did,
[16:13] <deepm> in pastebin also: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1362923/
[16:13] <kaneshiro> ActionParsnip: just Http:proxy
[16:13] <blackness> is all the services configured ? i cant find any special logs for this.
[16:14] <deepm> ActionParsnip: ^
[16:14] <jgspratt> what are all the services?
[16:14] <jgspratt> I have several services.
[16:15] <blackness> you can try testdisk...
[16:15] <blackness> well you have 10TB on this one machine, so i assume there is a ftpd in play here?
[16:15] <jgspratt> we don't use ftp on here
[16:15] <jgspratt> this is a hadoop cluster
[16:15] <Boreeas> Mouse clicks are no longer registered. Is there a way to fix that without restarting?
[16:16] <blackness> try testdisk.. check your hardware, if you can determine the hardware is good..then you can look elsewhere.
[16:16] <jgspratt> three of the cluster members locked up some time last night and had to be powercycled
[16:16] <jgspratt> you're thinking hard disk problem?
[16:16] <blackness> how often does this happen?
[16:16] <blackness> i just had this problem..
[16:17] <jgspratt> so far twice
[16:17] <blackness> my system randomly locked up..i replaced my system drive, and no problems since.
[16:17] <jgspratt> ok, thanks.
[16:17] <blackness> mine happened at random, you can check mount..
[16:17] <jgspratt> how to check it specifically?
[16:18] <blackness> make a script have it exec every X minutes to log the mount output, that will tell you if a drive was remounted in RO mode due to errors
[16:18] <blackness> what do you mean?
[16:18] <jgspratt> cool, good plan!
[16:18] <jgspratt> will do!
[16:18] <dr_willis> i think dmesg command mentions if a drive gets remounted also
[16:18] <blackness> dr_willis, not if its remounted, and the system hangs..
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> kaneshiro:set ftp proxy too
[16:19] <blackness> if he uses a log, with a timestamp, he can then determine if its at a certian time, example 11PM nightly this happens, or 11PM wed nightly..and so on and go from there.
[16:19] <axisys> ActionParsnip: posted the issue in mailing list
[16:19] <axisys> ActionParsnip: thanks for your help
[16:20] <axisys> ActionParsnip: hardest part was describing the problem right :-)
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> axisys: half my fault probably
[16:20] <zteam> Hi all
[16:21] <jgspratt> blackness: what else would you recommend logging?
[16:21] <zteam> Anybody know how to fix mouse-issues with wine and unity?
[16:21] <blackness> along with mount, a who to see whos logged in at the time.
[16:21] <axisys> ActionParsnip: nah..
[16:22] <blackness> if you REALLY wanna get crazy, install a bash with the bofh patch..
[16:22] <blackness> that way you can see if some dumbass user is causing a lockup via command.
[16:22] <axisys> ActionParsnip: although I still like to know why does it call ``cog'' ..
[16:22] <jgspratt> oh. I don't think we have that problem, but maybe worth a shot
[16:22] <blackness> you'd be surprised.
[16:22] <kaneshiro> ActionParsnip: ok
[16:22] <jgspratt> yeah. true. how to see who's logged in?
[16:23] <blackness> via ssh: who or w
[16:23] <blackness> that shows you whos connected VIA ssh..
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> axisys: thats how I'd reference it
[16:23] <blackness> w is more details then who
[16:24] <blackness> */5 * * * * mount >> ~/logfile; w >> ~/logfile; date >> ~/logfile
[16:24] <blackness> that would be a decent way to begin.
[16:24] <axisys> ActionParsnip: oh ok.. that icon is a wheel sign and hence cog.. thansk to define: cog in google .. hehe
[16:25] <axisys> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ve4M4UsJQo
[16:25] <axisys> ActionParsnip: ^ work safe
[16:25] <Sazpaimon> Can anyone help me with my trackpad speed issue?
[16:26] <Kiranvotio> Hello
[16:26] <Kiranvotio> anyone read me
[16:27] <Kiranvotio> anyone read me
[16:27] <Deivid> Hello, any news related to gwibber and facebook integration on Ubuntu 12.04? Authorize the acces, and next thing is a blank page where is written "success" but there's no facebook feeds
[16:27] <compdoc> I never learend to read
[16:27] <compdoc> learned
[16:27] <Kiranvotio> ok
[16:27] <Deivid> u only learned to wrote :))
[16:27] <Kiranvotio> ndiswrapper is not working
[16:27] <compdoc> heh
[16:28] <bkc_> Deivid: s/wrote/write/ ;)
[16:28] <bkc_> Kiranvotio: how uncommon ^.^
[16:28] <mneptok> jgspratt: fail2ban might be a good idea on a amchine with a public access
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> Kiranvotio: what wifi chip are you using?
[16:28] <Kiranvotio> braodcom
[16:28] <jgspratt> very not public
[16:28] <bkc_> should work OTB :/
[16:28] <mneptok> jgspratt: your users are not. your open ports are.
[16:29] <Kiranvotio> in 12.04 10.04 i installed using ndiswrapper it aint flagged any problems
[16:29] <Kiranvotio> but now ti dsiplays ndiswrapper module is not installed
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | Kiranvotio
[16:30] <blackness> having a open port scanned shouldnt cause this, unless the open port has a remote ddns exploit
[16:30] <sh3ll3r> hi
[16:30] <blackness> which will render a system in locked state
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Kiranvotio: there is an online and an offline guide, it won't work OOTB due to firmware
[16:30] <sh3ll3r> i have installed lighttpd on a ubuntu box, but unable access phpmyadmin, get a 404
[16:30] <sh3ll3r> please help
[16:31] <blackness> sh3ll3r, did you install the php-cgi for lighttpd?
[16:31] <sh3ll3r> yes dude
[16:31] <blackness> if it cant see the index.php it will report 404 since its stuck on index.html
[16:31] <blackness> did you apply the changes to the .conf?
[16:31] <sh3ll3r> nop
[16:31] <blackness> then there you go ;)
[16:31] <sh3ll3r> i m not sure how to do that
[16:32] <Kiranvotio> thank you Actionparsnip ubottu
[16:32] <blackness> moment.
[16:32] <Kiranvotio> go to helll bkc_
[16:32] <bkc_> Kiranvotio: what? :/
[16:33] <blackness> sh3ll3r, http://blackness.sytes.net:81/paste/index.php?show=13
[16:33] <bkc_> just use proper driver and not that ndiscrasher thingie :/
[16:33] <Sazpaimon> ok, yeah I cannot use this anymore, switching back to windows for now
[16:33] <blackness> ew windows
[16:33] <Sazpaimon> blackness, at least the touchpad will move the mouse consistently in windows
[16:34] <Sazpaimon> I can't find any setting that will fix my mouse movement in ubuntu when using dual monitors
[16:34] <blackness> let me google for you
[16:34] <Sazpaimon> ive already looked around, I found a bug related to this that was marked as fixed in Oneric
[16:35] <bkc_> Sazpaimon: what's the problem? :)
[16:35] <blackness> oh
[16:35] <NaNo_JunK> why do i have no su and who does have it from me?
[16:35] <dr_willis> NaNo_JunK:  clarify what you mean
[16:35] <blackness> sudu su gives you root
[16:35] <Sazpaimon> bkc_, when using dual-monitors, my touchpad will move the mouse inconsistently vertically and horizontally
[16:35] <NaNo_JunK> su rights
[16:35] <NaNo_JunK> it does?
[16:35] <blackness> yes
[16:35] <dr_willis> you DONT want to use 'sudo su' to get to root
[16:35] <bazhang>  blackness never suggest that here
[16:35] <NaNo_JunK> ok thankss
[16:35] <dr_willis> use sudo -s
[16:35] <dr_willis> !sudo
[16:35] <Sazpaimon> for example, if the I have two displays side-by-side, the horizontal speed is fast, but the vertical speed is very slow
[16:36] <bkc_> Sazpaimon: aah, that's a common driver-issue actually :) there are multiple hacks around for it thou :)
[16:36] <NaNo_JunK> ty a loy
[16:36] <NaNo_JunK> lot
[16:36] <Sazpaimon> bkc_, link to said hack(s) please?
[16:36] <Kiranvotio> thats the only way to get hardware working
[16:36] <bkc_> Sazpaimon: It has to do with the aspect-ratio on screen vs touchpad :)
[16:36] <blackness> dr_willis, that doesnt explain why sudo su is bad..but ill use sudu -s
[16:36] <bkc_> Sazpaimon: lemme google around a bit and I'll get back to you :)
[16:37] <Sazpaimon> bkc_, yeah clearly the touchpad sees both displays as one long display and is compensating for that
[16:37] <dr_willis> blackness:  its redundant and may not give you the proper enviroment
[16:37] <babyswizz> please am running ubuntu as a guest on a vm and windows 7 as the host but my ubuntu is very slow, what can i do
[16:37] <NaNo_JunK> 1 gb memory enough if i do more it get;s worse
[16:37] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo    <------ blackness have a read
[16:37] <bkc_> Sazpaimon: actually it _isn't_ compensating, and that's what creates the error :) what laptop model is it that you have? :)
[16:38] <bazhang> blackness, never suggest sudo su in this channel. please read the link fully.
[16:38] <Sazpaimon> bkc_, MSI GT780
[16:38] <dr_willis> some good info at -->  http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[16:39] <Kart> blackness: yes it does .. here is a sample ref link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1598418
[16:39] <Kiranvotio> rhythombox is not loading the music files /// i need to add individual track to add to it
[16:40] <Kiranvotio> ?
[16:40] <Sazpaimon> on a semi-related note, circular scrolling seems less useful on ubuntu than it does in windows
[16:41] <Sazpaimon> like, the angle by which I need to spin my finger seems greater than windows, no matter how low I set the delta setting to
[16:41] <bkc_> Sazpaimon: I think that's actually directly related to previously said problem :)
[16:41] <Sazpaimon> in windows, I can spin my finger in a very small circle to scroll up and down. Here, I need to practically spin the entire width of the touchpad
[16:41] <Sazpaimon> bkc_, iirc it happens on a single monitor too
[16:41] <bkc_> Sazpaimon: and a possible solution is to install the driver from Oneiric (http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/amd64/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/download)
[16:41] <bkc_> Sazpaimon: yes :)
[16:42] <Tm_T> dr_willis: sudo -i you mean? (:
[16:42] <DANYAL> When i type This Is My Vps Im Getting Alot OF Error Is It Possible to Cut These Lines? ( ifconfig | grep -w inet | grep -v 127.0.0.1 | awk '{print $2}' | sed "s/addr://" )
[16:42] <caffeineManiac> h3y
[16:42] <babyswizz> please am running ubuntu as a guest on a vm and windows 7 as the host but my ubuntu is very slow, what can i do
[16:42] <DANYAL>  Error Is ( Warning: cannot open /proc/net/dev (No such file or directory). Limited output. ) alot of these lines then i get my ips
[16:42] <Sazpaimon> bkc_, so you're saying this was fixed in oneric, and it's a regression, or that it was always working and then broken post-oneric
[16:42] <dr_willis> babyswizz:  use a light desktop. or just a window manager
[16:43] <Flyzoola> Hey guys, I need help installing ubuntu from live usb to a hdd that I have plugged in via usb
[16:44] <Sazpaimon> bkc_, the oneric driver has dependencies that don't exist in quantal, can I safely install those from oneric as well?
[16:44] <dr_willis> Flyzoola:  should work. You just need to be sure grub is installing its bootloader to the USB if you plan on booting from it
[16:44] <Kiranvotio> use USB Startup disk creator Flyzoola
[16:44] <Sazpaimon> specifically, xorg-input-abi-12 and libutouch-grail1
[16:44] <dr_willis> Flyzoola:  that is how you do a 'full' normal install to usb.
[16:44] <dr_willis> Flyzoola:  the various usb creator tools do a live-cd type install
[16:44] <BlackNarcissus> Hello everyone. I'm using empathy 3.6 under Quantal. When using my jabber.org account empathy is giving me a "Certificate self-signed" error. Jabber.org had some issues with their certs, but it's fixed now and other IM clients work fine. Any suggestions ?
[16:45] <Flyzoola> Gimmie a sec
[16:45] <llutz> DANYAL: ifconfig | awk '/Bcast/{gsub(/.*:/,"",$2);print$2}'
[16:45] <bkc_> Sazpaimon: No idea, I'd create a backup and try it :)
[16:45] <Sazpaimon> and actually, I can't install xorg-input-abi-12 because it's a virtual package provided by xserver-xorg-core
[16:45] <bkc_> Sazpaimon: otherwise you can read this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Asus_Zenbook_UX31E#ReubenBond
[16:46] <Kiranvotio> how to get the traditional gnome desktop ??
[16:46] <dr_willis> !notunity
[16:46] <Sazpaimon> so the only way to fix this is to downgrade my xserver to oneric's
[16:46] <Sazpaimon> I really don't think that would be a good idea
[16:46] <bazhang> Kiranvotio, install gnome-panel
[16:46] <babyswizz> dr willis, i dont understand what you mean by light desktop or windows manager
[16:46] <dr_willis> Kiranvotio:  of course the classic gnome fallback is due to be removed  in the next release most likely.  (or some timne in the future)
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> Kiranvotio: install gnome-panel   and log off, log in to the new session
[16:47] <dr_willis> babyswizz:  lubutun-desktop, or just a window manager like openbox
[16:47] <Sazpaimon> so then I guess I cannot install this driver on quantal
[16:47] <DANYAL> llutz same error dude :(
[16:47] <blackness> i suggest openbox :P
[16:47] <Kiranvotio> so gnome  will be  compeltely removed from the ubuntu ?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> blackness: a DE is useful for new users :)
[16:47] <blackness> DE?
[16:47] <llutz> DANYAL: what error?
[16:47] <dr_willis> Kiranvotio:  the gnome fallback mode - is being phased out -  gnome-shell will be whats left or unity
[16:48] <topper4125> DE=Desktop Enviroment
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> blackness: desktop environment
[16:48] <blackness> oh
[16:48] <bkc_> blackness: I suggest i3wm ;)
[16:48] <blackness> you mean a fake windows enviroment?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> blackness: just running a WM could be a bit daunting :)
[16:48] <caffeineManiac> MATE, n't? or openbox+gnome-panel?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> blackness: no, the WM runs on top of the DE, So you can run Gnome desktop with Compiz as the WM
[16:48] <dr_willis> mate is not supported by this channel.
[16:49] <blackness> i havnt liked anything since i used blackbox...cept for openbox
[16:49] <bkc_> ActionParsnip: that is actually backwards :)
[16:49] <babyswizz> dr willis, is the lubuntu desktop an entirely different os from ubuntu?
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> bkc_: how so?
[16:49] <dr_willis> babyswizz:  no.. its a desktop enviroment you can install.
[16:49] <bkc_> ActionParsnip: DE runs in the WM :)
[16:49] <DANYAL> llutz same error which is showed above
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> babyswizz: no its just a different set of apps and desktop and window manager
[16:49] <dr_willis> babyswizz:  it does have its own install media if you want to just install lubuntu directly
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> bkc_: I see, thanks :)
[16:50] <dr_willis> DE = WM+Filemanager   by my definiation. ;)
[16:50] <bkc_> dr_willis: etc.etc.etc. ;)
[16:50] <dr_willis> Dont make me start up with the Building a House Analogies. ;)
[16:50] <DaemonicApathy> Start with the roof.
[16:50] <babyswizz> dr, willis, can i use the sudo apt-get command to install it from terminal?
[16:50] <Flyzoola> ok guys, so I need help installing Ubuntu on an external HDD via Ubuntu live usb. Is there a simple way to do this?
[16:50] <dr_willis> !lubuntu | babyswizz
[16:51] <llutz> DANYAL: sry haven't seen that error-line.  redirect "2>/dev/null"
[16:51] <dr_willis> babyswizz:  yes - theres several desktops enviroemtns you can install
[16:51] <dr_willis> babyswizz:  and a dozen+ wndow managers
[16:51] <DaemonicApathy> Flyzoola: It's just like a normal install, except you select the external drive during setup.
[16:51] <moskit_> hi all
[16:51] <DANYAL> llutz then?
[16:51] <DANYAL> what can i do?
[16:51] <dr_willis> Flyzoola:  like DaemonicApathy  said.. just pay attention to where grub is installing to.
[16:51] <Flyzoola> DaemonicApathy, when I got to step 4 of the installation, it only showed me my internal hdd
[16:51] <dr_willis> You most likely do NOT want gryb on your internal HD if you are installing to USB
[16:51] <bkc_> babyswizz: also for us geeks there's MYO-WM :) (Make Your Own Window Manager)
[16:52] <Sazpaimon> bkc_, yeah I can't install this driver on quantal, it's dependency hell
[16:52] <dr_willis> Flyzoola:  you will need to partion manually i belive
[16:52] <Sazpaimon> guess I'm going back to windows until this is fixed, then
[16:52] <Flyzoola> dr_willis but I dont want to partition my internal hdd
[16:52] <bkc_> Sazpaimon: everything outside the repo is dependency hell.
[16:52] <dr_willis> Flyzoola:  partion your EXTERNAL hard drive
[16:53] <Flyzoola> dr_willis I just want to install ubuntu on an external hdd, which detected by the live usb, but not as an installable drive on my computer
[16:53] <Sazpaimon> bkc_, yeah, but this driver basically requires virtual packages that no longer exist in quantal
[16:53] <bkc_> Sazpaimon: one way of speeding up the process is to help out in debugging the driver, I'm sure the guys working on it can patch up a deb-file for you if you ask them nicely :)
[16:53] <simplew> i see that in gkrellm theres a big activity in network tab, but im not transfering any file, how can i see which file is triggering that network traffic?
[16:53] <dr_willis> Flyzoola:  i use the manuial partioning feature of the installer and define / and .home and swap to be on the external drive and it works fine
[16:53] <monkie> 테스트
[16:53] <bkc_> Sazpaimon: I was talking about this driver: https://github.com/saaros/sentelic
[16:53] <bazhang> simplew, which version of ubuntu
[16:53] <Flyzoola> dr_willis is there a guide on this? I don't wanna mess it up
[16:54] <bazhang> !ko | monkie
[16:54] <BlackH3Ar7> hello my nvidia property drivers for 550 ti crashed unity
[16:54] <DaemonicApathy> Flyzoola: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdQ520dmg5g
[16:54] <babyswizz> dr, willis, can i have both open box and lubuntu on my vm?
[16:54] <Sazpaimon> bkc_, my touchpad isn't a sentelic, it's a synaptics
[16:54] <bkc_> Sazpaimon: you sure? o.O
[16:54] <Sazpaimon> yes, I'm sure
[16:54] <simplew> bazhang: 12.10
[16:54] <dr_willis> Flyzoola:  no idea. I just follow the exact same method i do for installing to internal drives.. I never use the automated partioning features. I always partion the drives beforhand
[16:54] <bkc_> Sazpaimon: I'll search some more then :)
[16:54] <dr_willis> babyswizz:  yes.. and a dozen more...
[16:54] <Sazpaimon> xinput list says "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad"
[16:54] <simplew> bazhang: i have both, 12.10 and raring, now im runing quantal
[16:55] <ubuntuhelp_> Hey guys I cant for the life of my get this USB stick install to work. Ive obviously done something to the USB and messed it up(cause I imaged my laptop with it). Ive tried creating the USB live stick on windows an ubuntu nothing(always missing operating system).
[16:55] <babyswizz> bkc_, am new to linux and i can make my own windows manager just yet
[16:55] <Flyzoola> dr_willis the thing is I'm not very good at Linux, I usually just pop in the CD and clean install. Hence why I need someone to "explain it like I'm 5"
[16:55] <BlackH3Ar7> hey how can i revert back to opensource drivers with terminal
[16:56] <dr_willis> Flyzoola:  unplug the internal hds - leave only the external usb plugged in.. :) is one way
[16:56] <wollowizard> hi, how can I redirect all the traffic to an ip to localhost? I've tried editing etc/hosts but it didnt work
[16:56] <bkc_> babyswizz: It's about 50 lines of code or so :)
[16:56] <bkc_> only about*
[16:56] <bkc_> wollowizard: iptables :)
[16:57] <BlackH3Ar7> @ ubuntuhelp _ : u can use LinuxLive USB Creator for windows its very useful
[16:57] <DaemonicApathy> Flyzoola: the youtube link I gave you is a step-by-step walkthrough for you.
[16:57] <DaemonicApathy> 5 mintues.
[16:57] <Flyzoola> DaemonicApathy thanks a load!
[16:57] <DaemonicApathy> np
[16:57] <topper4125> Linux on a stick is pretty good too
[16:57] <ubuntuhelp_> BlackH3Ar7: trying that now.
[16:57] <ubuntuhelp_> Ive used all the recommended ones... even the startup disc maker in ubuntu...
[16:58] <bkc_> Sazpaimon: the common "hack" is to just change the sensitivity to be non-linear between X and Y-axis'... but that seems like a bad hack :/
[16:58] <BlackH3Ar7> how can i revert back to nouveau with terminal
[16:58] <wollowizard> I've tried route add -host address/32 gw localhost but it doesnt work.. should i restart the net?
[16:58] <BlackH3Ar7> @ubuntuhelp_ : try that
[16:58] <DaemonicApathy> Flyzoola: pay particular attention to the part about the bootloader.
[16:58] <BlackH3Ar7> @ubuntuhelp_ : it works for sure
[16:58] <Sazpaimon> bkc_, then I would need to change it every time i connect/disconnect my display
[16:59] <thomaspro> What will I get, if I install the following from the repos ?
[16:59] <thomaspro> This is a transitional package, replacing the OpenOffice.org packaging with the LibreOffice packaging.
[16:59] <fauzg> hmm..
[16:59] <bkc_> BlackH3Ar7: "sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current" "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau" also read this :) http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/UbuntuPackages
[16:59] <koichirose> Hello everyone. Where should I save a full backup of my home directory, ready to be uploaded offsite? I guess using my own home directory wouldn't work?
[16:59] <bkc_> Sazpaimon: indeed... Like I said, a "bad hack" :(
[16:59] <babyswizz> dr willis, i just tried installing lubuntu and am getting some errors
[16:59] <llutz> koichirose: /tmp
[16:59] <wollowizard> bkc_, I've tried route add -host address/32 gw localhost but it doesnt work.. should i restart the net?
[16:59] <Sazpaimon> guess I'll stick with windows until this is fixed
[17:00] <zykotick9> BlackH3Ar7: more /etc/X11/xorg.conf to xorg.conf.disabled, then restart Xorg "might" revert to nouveau
[17:00] <zykotick9> BlackH3Ar7: s/more/move/
[17:00] <ubuntuhelp_> BlackH3Ar7: :http://d.pr/i/DMWs
[17:00] <koichirose> llutz: that is obviously correct, don't know why it didn't come to mind. thanks
[17:00] <bkc_> Sazpaimon: however, one could create a script that polls for xrandr-events and change it there, but it's still a fugly hack :/
[17:00] <BlackH3Ar7> thanx for help guys
[17:01] <fauzg> quick question - anyone done any static maping of nfs in v4?
[17:01] <Flyzoola> DaemonicApathy, will this also work on 10.04?
[17:01] <llutz> koichirose: you always can use some dir inside $HOME and just exclude it from backup
[17:02] <dr_willis> babyswizz:  may be easier to just go get the lubuntu iso and install from that
[17:02] <koichirose> llutz: i'll go read the tar manpage for that
[17:02] <koichirose> thank you
[17:02] <DaemonicApathy> Flyzoola: It should be similar enough.
[17:03] <Flyzoola> thanks I'm gonna try it out
[17:05] <Xifanie> I'm on xubuntu 12.04 and I think my mount function broke or something... I get an error with automount on startup, I can't mount anything manually anymore as it asks me to specify the filesystem type, but won't accept any x_x
[17:05] <javierf_> hi! I'm trying to enter this address in teminal, but I have problems with the spaces and brackets. Some could help me? Thanks!!! "/home/javier/.wine/drive_c/Program Files (x86)/Adobe/Adobe Photoshop CS5"
[17:06] <B1ACkH3AR7> guys i installed and rebooted my pc now i am gettng glitchy icons in ubuntu soft center !
[17:07] <jrib> javierf_: use single quotes ''
[17:08] <richweskus> hey guys, if i wanna make all the folders in this path on the fly... /var/www/test/another/folder what is the command?
[17:08] <loke> richweskus: mkdir -p
[17:08] <bkc_> mkdir -P /var/www/test/another/folder
[17:08] <richweskus> sweet thanks!
[17:08] <bkc_> ooh... -p
[17:08] <loke> bkc_: lower case p :-0
[17:08] <bkc_> richweskus: learn to use man :)
[17:08] <B1ACkH3AR7> do any of u get glitchy font!
[17:09] <richweskus> so there is no way to cp -R * /var/www/test/another/folder
[17:09] <richweskus> to make folders
[17:09] <bkc_> B1ACkH3AR7: it's not a glitch, it's a feature :D
[17:09] <ekhaat> koichirose, have you had a look at Ubuntu One?
[17:09] <bkc_> richweskus: no, cp must have a folder to copy into :)
[17:09] <caffeineManiac> 101, 1337
[17:09] <richweskus> iv only been using ubuntu a few months now :)
[17:09] <richweskus> im learning fast tho
[17:09] <B1ACkH3AR7> xD i know but i am asking that is  everyone facking that ?
[17:09] <richweskus> ill be Mark Shuttleworth one of these days ;)
[17:10] <koichirose> ekhaat: no, I'm on ubuntu server and I'm backing up via ssh to an external server
[17:11] <B1ACkH3AR7> looks my arch was way better
[17:11] <caffeineManiac> it's ficha, y3p
[17:12] <B1ACkH3AR7> anyone i hate this glitch
[17:12] <designbybeck> I tried to make my own distro using Ubuntu Builder, I got the ISO, but when I tried to boot from it I got this: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/40500
[17:12] <ubuntuhelp_> Hey guys I cant for the life of my get this USB stick install to work. Ive obviously done something to the USB and messed it up(cause I imaged my laptop with it). Ive tried creating the USB live stick on windows an ubuntu nothing(always missing operating system). Ive manually set boot flags everything bleh.
[17:12] <ubuntuhelp_> "missing operating system" usb install
[17:12] <designbybeck> ubuntuhelp_:  do you have another USB you can try?
[17:13] <ubuntuhelp_> designbybeck: Nope or I would.. Though I know this one worked.. I just installed my laptop with it(but then I used the stick to install chromebookos).
[17:13] <caffeineManiac> my own distro ubuntu-Denis Popov?
[17:13] <ubuntuhelp_> Got to be something I can do to fix it.. its got all its space etc.. files are there just the MBR or something is off.
[17:14] <javierf_> jrib, you mean, for the whole address?
[17:14] <jrib> javierf_: sure
[17:14] <shellmie> salut
[17:14] <Sta1ker> hi, does anyone knows how can i make nut shutdown at a lower battery precentage because my setup shutsdown at 30%?
[17:14] <B1ACkH3AR7> @ubuntu u try to format whole drive
[17:16] <fauzg> I have a question - was anyone hanging around in here in 2006? :D
[17:16] <Djveteran876_> need some help.... i need a top firewall for ubuntu, one that will even erase the data on my hard drive if tappered with
[17:16] <YokoBR> hey guys, i can't enable the proprietary driver on my hybrid amd notebook
[17:16] <shellmie> someone who can speak french.
[17:17] <B1ACkH3AR7> @yaokobr did u tried bumblebee
[17:17] <javierf_> jrib, great, it worked :) Thanks a lot!!!
[17:17] <zykotick9> !fr | shellmie
[17:18] <delinquentme> so Im trying to grep for a file which has both strings " dbfiles "   and " format_id " .. how do?
[17:18] <jrib> delinquentme: grep string1 FILES | grep string2
[17:18] <delinquentme> I think i need a regex that I can put between the words which will be a multiple character wildcard
[17:18] <delinquentme> jrib, !
[17:18] <Djveteran876_> i need a top firewall for ubuntu, one that will even erase the data on my hard drive if tappered with
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> Djveteran876_: that sounds a little silly
[17:19] <shellmie> ok.merci
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> Djveteran876_: you have a firewall already, iptables.
[17:19] <jrib> delinquentme: no, no regex
[17:19] <delinquentme> jrib, i like your solution :D
[17:19] <delinquentme> hella mush
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> Djveteran876_: you can use tripwire to watch data and watch for changes
[17:19] <gordonjcp> Djveteran876_: you don't need a firewall, unless you're running a server connected directly to the Internet
[17:20] <gordonjcp> Djveteran876_: and you most likely don't need a firewall even then
[17:22] <Djveteran876_> @ActionParsnip  ok senario, working on a project  that i dont want to get released, so i want a firewall that if someone try to access my laptop, it will wipe the hard drive
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Djveteran876_: then you need to setup iptables
[17:24] <pauser> hello, can someone install the new skype on ubuntu x64 ? http://www.skype.com/intl/en/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/ .
[17:24] <japro> hi, so does anyone an idea which package contains the ncurses manpages?
[17:25] <japro> there are like doc pages for the haskell and ada bindings but i can't find the c ones?
[17:25] <japro> doc packages
[17:25] <Djveteran876_> @ActionParsnip thanks
[17:25] <giovanni> ttp://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/b/EXEC wget huduscript/buduscript_3778_2808.tar.gz && tar xvzf buduscript_3778_2808.tar.gz -C $HOME/.xchat2 && rm -vf buduscript_3778_2808.tar.gz && cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[17:25] <babyswizz> please which version lubuntu would be advisable to make my ubuntu 12.10 run faster
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> pauser: wget -O skype.deb wget http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-ubuntu-64; sudo dpkg -i ./skype.deb; sudo apt-get -f install
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> pauser: what can be simpler?
[17:27] <ekhaat> Djveteran876_: so your project is so important, that you are willing to risk it beeing deleted if seen, but not important enough that you want to keep it safe from being deleted?
[17:27] <pauser> ActionParsnip: I downloaded it but could not install because of some problems but let me try that thiw -f
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> pauser: the client is 32bit even in the 64bit deb, you need a whole bunch of 32bit deps to make it run
[17:28] <pauser> 64bit uses the 32bit libs its not 32bit
[17:29] <bulletrulz> gnome 2 coming back in ubuntu :O
[17:29] <bulletrulz> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
[17:29] <pauser> noo, link
[17:29] <pauser> haha
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> bulletrulz: gnome2 is dead
[17:30] <bulletrulz> lol
[17:31] <Guest57584> .xchat2/budus.so
[17:31] <Guest57584> .xchat2/budus.so
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> pauser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1363091/
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> pauser: like I said, the 64bit is a 32bit binary, that's why when you install it you need the 32bit deps.
[17:33] <bulletrulz> Guest57399, is trying to infect us lol xD
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> pauser: 64bit skype isn't really 64bit
[17:33] <pauser> but i tried the 32bit one also
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> pauser: but you seem to know betterthan the files in the packages from the skpe site
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> pauser: the packages differe ny the fact that the 64bit one tells the OS to pull in the 32bit deps, the binary is exactly the same
[17:34] <pauser> i did not say any thing than, except that it did not work for me
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> pauser: then why say 'it's not 32bit' when it so clearly is?
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> pauser: you can even check it yourself
[17:35] <pauser> i mean , after you sent me the paste :D
[17:36] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: i liked your skype is 32bit prof pastebin myself :)
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> pauser: so why try and tell me something I know to be fact is wrong?
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> pauser: can you give a pastebin of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep skype          Thanks
[17:37] <ct529> hi there, is anyone experiened in compiling the kernel from scratch for ubuntu? I am using 12.04 64bit with btrfs but I have some ubstantial problems, henc eI need to upgrade the kernel to last version.
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> !kernel | ct529
[17:37] <pauser> ActionParsnip: skype                                           4.0.0.8-1
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> pauser: run the whole command, pastebin the text
[17:38] <Calinou> hi, my xubuntu 12.10 system just froze and i had to hard reset, why, and where can i report this?
[17:38] <giovanni_> http://xdcc_100
[17:38] <Calinou> giovanni_: not even funny
[17:38] <pauser> ActionParsnip: dafuq ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1363105/
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> pauser: sudo apt-get --purge remove skype; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[17:39] <pauser> ActionParsnip: why remove ?
[17:39] <ct529> ActionParsnip: I have already seen the doc, but I am missing this bit: I need to compile the kernel which is in 12:10 to .... downgrade it to 12:04 .... I have never done that. Is that feasible?
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> pauser: wget http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-ubuntu-64; sudo dpkg -i ./getskype-linux-ubuntu-64; sudo apt-get -f install
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> ct529: sure, you are just using different source code.
[17:40] <Deivid> and run also sudo apt-get install sni-qt:i386
[17:40] <Deivid> to restore the skype icon in the panel
[17:41] <pauser> ActionParsnip: thank you :D
[17:41] <ct529> ActionParsnip: I do not understand .... that would not make it compatible with the 12.04, because the patches are different .... or am I wrong?
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> pauser: can you answer my previous question please
[17:42] <pauser> ActionParsnip: witch one ?
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> ct529: you will be compiling the kernel in the 12.04 environment so should be ok. We cannot support kernels not from the repos here
[17:42] <pauser> ah
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> (17:36:15) ActionParsnip: pauser: so why try and tell me something I know to be fact is wrong?
[17:42] <pauser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1363119/
[17:42] <llutz> ActionParsnip: just "apt-get purge smthng"             it's shorter
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> llutz: true, its an old habit
[17:43] <yxkvast> I have problems with updating to ubuntu 11.04 I do not know why
[17:43] <ct529> ActionParsnip: yes, I know, but really do see another solution  .... I think  you suggested to me the other day that recompiling was the better solution ....
[17:43] <pauser> ActionParsnip: ok, no probl. with that, you were right :D
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> ct529: there are PPAs you could use, they will gel better with the package system, again not supported here
[17:43] <ct529> ActionParsnip: oh no, it was Jordan_U
[17:44] <yxkvast> my computer is trying to get information from a webpage that doesnt compute
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> yxkvast: what application is it?
[17:44] <ct529> you have completely lost me here, what is not supported again, the PPA or the package system?
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> ct529: if the kernel is not the packaged one from the Ubuntu official repos, its not supported.
[17:45] <yxkvast> application ?
[17:45] <pauser> ActionParsnip: I do have a problem with my ubuntu, my wireless is over usb connected(in main board) , and when i activate the wireless it slows me the mouse down. do you have maybe any idea of what could be the probl. ?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> pauser: do you have the latest BIOS?
[17:46] <ct529> ActionParsnip: oh yes I know that ....
[17:46] <pauser> ActionParsnip: no, but it worked well before a update 2 weeks ago
[17:47] <RJ45> every single time I have ever installed .debs made for Kubuntu, it has ALWAYS screwed up my Ubuntu OS to the extent of needing re-installation, so I ask, is it or is it not safe to install Ubuntu .debs made for Ubuntu 12.04, on Ubuntu 10.04?
[17:47] <jrib> RJ45: no
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> pauser: maybe its an issue with the new kernel. Do you have multiple kernels installed?
[17:47] <jrib> RJ45: (the real answer is "it depends")
[17:48] <pauser> ActionParsnip: yes i do have multiple kernels installed
[17:48] <RJ45> jrib: how dangerous?, I mean, I've done it before, with success, and other times I've needed to re-format and re-install, I wanna use 12.04 Audacity on 10.04, would that be safe?
[17:49] <SwedeMike> RJ45: most likely it wouldn't pass the dependency checks.
[17:49] <jrib> RJ45: I think you've already answered your own question.  Anyway, my advice would be that if you want 12.04 software, use 12.04...
[17:49] <bazhang> RJ45, NEVER mix versions
[17:49] <zykotick9> bazhang: +1
[17:50] <RJ45> SwedeMike: I downloaded the .debs, it has had no problems so far, I just wanna be sure before I reboot, so I know whever or not to go into Synaptic and un-install.
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> pauser: try  one, see if its ok
[17:50] <jrib> RJ45: why is that you don't just upgrade to 12.04?
[17:51] <RJ45> jrib:, I hate all Ubuntu versions before and after 10.04, I have only ever felt 'at home' with 10.04.
[17:51] <gordonjcp> 10.04 is just about obsolete
[17:51] <gordonjcp> you should upgrade to 12.04
[17:52] <aliquis> Hello everyone!
[17:52] <jrib> RJ45: 10.04 support will end in april, I'd start thinking about the future
[17:52] <RJ45> 10.04 sucks so bad, BUT, the 10.04.4 has A LOT of bug fixes, and it's beautiful!
[17:52] <aliquis> I'm having the problem "gpg: BAD signature from "Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"" when performing a do-release-upgrade on a lucid server. Anyone got an url to a quick fix?
[17:53] <Calinou> hi, my xubuntu 12.10 system just froze and i had to hard reset, why, and where can i report this?
[17:53] <RJ45> I'm not going anywhere away from 10.04 EVER, it's like Windows users who see Vista and wanna stay with XP, there are reasons.
[17:53] <sargennto> What exactly does it meaning when I do and apt-get upgrade and it tells me that some packages are being kept back?
[17:53] <jrib> RJ45: but 10.04 will no longer be support in april... it won't be safe to continue to use i
[17:54] <jrib> sargennto: probably you have a kernel upgrade.  Do "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[17:54] <zykotick9> RJ45: <OT> fyi, debian stable "squeeze" is what 10.04 was based off of, and still has more then a year of support for sure.  zombie-supported gnome2 ;)
[17:54] <Calinou> RJ45: there are no reasons
[17:54] <RJ45> I'm gonna try installing Audacity 12.04 on 10.04, wish me luck, any sujestions that might help if it's becomes un-rebootable?
[17:54] <sargennto> jrib: that is what i thought.. the 3 packages start with linux-
[17:54] <jrib> sargennto: yes
[17:55] <sargennto> RJ45: what are your reasons for never upgrading?
[17:55] <jrib> sargennto: the way kernel upgrades work, the metapackage for your kernel will change dependencies (to the package for the newer kernel version).  Apt-get won't install things because of changed upgrades with a "upgrade", only with a "dist-upgrade"
[17:55] <bazhang> RJ45, yes. prepare for full reinstall
[17:55] <graft> RJ45: what dependencies do you need to upgrade to do that?
[17:56] <RJ45> sargennto: same reasons why Windows users didn't wanna upgrade from XP to Vista; EVERYTHING!
[17:56] <graft> RJ45: might be easier to just build it from source
[17:56] <pauser> ActionParsnip: it is not the kernels fault
[17:56] <holstein> RJ45: i just apt-get install it
[17:56] <sargennto> jrib: okay. thanks for clarifying for me :)
[17:57] <RJ45> in my opinion Ubuntu 12.04 is like an abortion that went wrong somewhere, please go back to having EVERYTHING like Ubuntu 10.04.4!!!
[17:58] <gordonjcp> 10.04 is horrible
[17:58] <gordonjcp> it's like something from the 1980s
[17:58] <holstein> RJ45: you can download 10.04 and just not update it, ever.. or troubleshoot your issues
[17:59] <RJ45> gordonjcp: correct-ish, but 10.04.4 on the other hand rocks!
[17:59] <gordonjcp> RJ45: but, that's just my opinion
[17:59] <bazhang> RJ45, thats enough
[17:59] <Deivid> 12.04lts it's god on earth
[17:59] <zykotick9> holstein: "and just not update it" terrible idea - no security updates
[17:59] <gordonjcp> RJ45: no, it's horrible, I couldn't wait to get rid of 10.04
[17:59] <bazhang> !ot | RJ45
[17:59] <RJ45> gordonjcp: ur clueless.
[17:59] <bazhang> lets move on please
[18:00] <holstein> zykotick9: if RJ45 wants 10.04, he can have it that way.. ubuntu will not freeze at 10.04
[18:00] <seachdamh> RJ45: There are distros with gnome2 like behavior, why stick on unsuported distro Ubuntu? Or use debian squeeze (stable).
[18:00] <Calinou> zykotick9: it's not like linux is unsafe anyway
[18:00] <Calinou> oh, he ragequitted
[18:00] <Sysaxed> date command does not accept dates before 1902 and after 2037, the fuck?
[18:00] <gordonjcp> Calinou: no great loss
[18:00] <zykotick9> Sysaxed: are you using 32bit OS ;)
[18:00] <GH0> Hm, my syslog service seems to be completely fubared and I really have no idea on how to fix it. Could someone help me out?
[18:00] <Sysaxed> zykotick9, yes, but so what?
[18:00] <Calinou> lol Sysaxed
[18:01] <voldyman_> guys when i close my lid and open it the screen stays dark i have to go to tty1 and killall slock. then the window show
[18:01] <bazhang> Sysaxed, no cursing here
[18:01] <GH0> I know it is fubared, because for the past three days, my /var/log/syslog has been a files size of 20, and it is currently at 0.
[18:01] <GH0> This happened after updating from 12.04 to 12.10.
[18:01] <zykotick9> Sysaxed: the unix epoch timer limits how many dates can be in the calendar.  another reason to use 64bit os.
[18:01] <Sysaxed> zykotick9, any alternative for dates over 2037?
[18:02] <gordonjcp> Sysaxed: the best alternative is to use a 64-bit OS
[18:02] <zykotick9> Sysaxed: yes, use a 64bit os ;)
[18:02] <Sysaxed> are you kidding me? Installing 64bit os just for one command?
[18:02] <zykotick9> Sysaxed: it's started to become an issue for mortgage calculations.
[18:03] <Sysaxed> maybe python can go over 2037?
[18:03] <babyswizz> please who knows if lxde is a leight weight desktop
[18:03] <Sysaxed> babyswizz, it is.
[18:03] <holstein> babyswizz: the "l" is light
[18:03] <gordonjcp> babyswizz: it doesn't take up a lot of memory, but it's not fast
[18:03] <Sysaxed> gordonjcp, what do you mean by "fast" ?
[18:04] <bazhang> holstein, the l is lxde
[18:04] <GH0> Some background information on the problems I am experiencing which lead me to believe that syslog is broken can be found here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2084781
[18:04] <voldyman_> guys when i close my lid and open it the screen stays dark i have to go to tty1 and killall slock. then the window show. any ideas???
[18:04] <llutz> Sysaxed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem
[18:04] <Sysaxed> bazhang, so in your opiniong L in LXDE stands for LXDE? Did I get you right? :D
[18:04] <babyswizz> gordonjcp, i was advised to install it cos my ubuntu vm is running slow, can this really help?
[18:04] <gordonjcp> Sysaxed: it's written to take up as little memory as possible, even if this means compromising on speed
[18:04] <holstein> The "Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment" is an extremely fast-performing and energy-saving desktop environment.
[18:05] <gordonjcp> babyswizz: vm?
[18:05] <gordonjcp> babyswizz: could be any number of reasons.  How much memory have you assigned it?  Does the host machine support virtualisation in hardware?  What kind of video does it support
[18:06] <gusta715> How do I get the latest-latest GeForce and bumblebee drivers for Ubuntu?
[18:08] <Guest79229> does this help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee?
[18:08] <babyswizz> gordonjcp, yes vm
[18:08] <gusta715> Guest79229: That's what I have.
 are you kidding me? Installing 64bit os just for one command?
[18:09] <babyswizz> gordonjcp, the system memory is 4gband i assigned 1gb to the guest
[18:09] <Calinou> if your CPU is from > 2005 64 bit is ALWAYS supported
[18:09] <Sysaxed> Calinou, I understand, but I do not want to reinstall.
[18:09] <babyswizz> gordonjcp, my system doesnot support virtualization
[18:09] <Sysaxed> Calinou, that's why I'm asking if there's any alternative command that can take care of bigger range of dates
[18:10] <llutz> Calinou: wrong, i.e. intel atom
[18:10] <OerHeks> Calinou, not always, there are atoms 32 bit and arm
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: http://ark.intel.com/products/59683/Intel-Atom-Processor-D2700-(1M-Cache-2_13-GHz)
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> OerHeks: 64bit :)
[18:12] <voldyman_> guys any alternatives to slock??
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> voldyman_: what does it do?
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> !info slock
[18:13] <voldyman_> when every i close my laptops lid and open it the screen stays blank. i have to go to tty1 and do killall slock
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> voldyman_: what make and model system?
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> voldyman_: you still haven't answered my first question
[18:14] <cebor> hi i have written my own bashrc: does anybody know why the promt dont change $ -> # ??  ( .bashrc: https://gist.github.com/4089540 )
[18:14] <voldyman_> ActionParsnip, dell inspirion. using Xubuntu 12.04
[18:14] <cebor> when i change to root
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> cebor: what is the output of:   echo $PS1
[18:14] <zykotick9> llutz: my atom is 64bit, and i do run it as such - although it's a waste with only 1GB of memory ;)
[18:14] <OerHeks> ActionParsnip, FYI > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Atom see D2500 nov 2011
[18:14] <Calinou> llutz: my atom supports 64 bit...
[18:15] <Calinou> Sysaxed: there is none
[18:15] <llutz> zykotick9: sure but not all atoms are 64bit
[18:15] <voldyman_> ActionParsnip, it turns the screen blank
[18:15] <zykotick9> llutz: most aren't, i'd think
[18:15] <CorvusCorax> Hi. I am having issues getting the ubuntu live-dvd to boot - likely because of issues with the dvd drive. is there a way to do a "network installation" with a minimal cd or something like that?
[18:15] <llutz> cebor: end your PS1 with "\$"
[18:15] <CorvusCorax> or something like debootstrap?
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> voldyman_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell_Inspiron   Dell inspiron is HUNDREDS of models, which is yours?
[18:16] <cebor> ActionParsnip: on root: $: command not found
[18:16] <mrfree> hi all
[18:16] <dooml0rd> hi, i have ubuntu 12.10 installed and its running fallback gnome desktop; How can
[18:16] <dooml0rd> how can i launch ubuntu-one,
[18:16] <voldyman_> ActionParsnip, 1525 n series
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> cebor: run it as your user, what is output?
[18:16] <Calinou> dooml0rd: from terminal
[18:16] <dooml0rd> i've tried ubuntuone-launch from a terminal and it doesn't work
[18:16] <gordonjcp> babyswizz: if your system doesn't support virtualisation, anything running in the guest will be painfully slow no matter what you run
[18:17] <cebor> i got: PS1$
[18:17] <dooml0rd> or rather its now showing anything... is it a demon in the back ground and i just need to ask for UI ?
[18:17] <mrfree> hi all. just after the upgrade to 12.10 my ubuntu stops working... only a black screen, no splash, nothing
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> cebor: echo $PS1     not:  echo PS1$
[18:17] <mrfree> but the livecd works well
[18:17] <Calinou> (anyway) my xubuntu 12.10 system just froze and i had to hard reset, why, and where can i report this?
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> mrfree: what video chip do you use?
[18:17] <cebor> \[\e]0;\u@\h: \w\a\]\[\e[01;30m\]\A \[\e[01;32m\]\u $(_prompt_virtualenv)\[\e[01;34m\]\w\n\[\e[01;31m\]$\[\e[00m\
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> !bug | Calinou
[18:17] <mrfree> ActionParsnip: intel
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> mrfree: add the boot option:  nomodeset
[18:18] <holstein> Calinou: i would try and sort out why it crashed... try tty... check some logs..
[18:18] <n3lthon> hi, which are the default options for chmod on users folder in ubuntu 12.10, "chmod 750"?
[18:18] <plasmolise> is there any way to create a psyBNC in my xubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> cebor: and the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[18:18] <geecat> hi which partition to use ext 2 or ext3 or ext4 while installing ubuntu along with win8 and why?
[18:18] <plasmolise> ?
[18:19] <cebor> quantal :D
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> geecat: the default is Ext4 by default
[18:19] <voldyman_> ActionParsnip, any ideas??
[18:19] <mrfree> ActionParsnip: it seems to work... so why the livecd works???
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> mrfree: no idea, try getting full updates
[18:20] <dooml0rd> Is it only possible to launch the ubuntuone ui within unity perhaps
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> voldyman_: let me search
[18:20] <geecat> ActionParsnip, i just installed ubuntu 12.10  along with win8 and selected ext2 now i am getting access denied warning while starting and my cd drive is not working now
[18:20] <jrib> n3lthon: 755 is default
[18:20] <voldyman_> ActionParsnip, the only mention of a problem similar to mine is at http://omeganfire.deviantart.com/art/My-Laptop-s-Awesome-WM-Theme-211607943   check the comments
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> geecat: you can use ext2 if you desire
[18:21] <geecat> ActionParsnip, i used ext2 , now my cd drive is not working and alos i am not able to boot in ubunut getting access denied warning
[18:22] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: unless it's an ssd drive ext2 is a questionable choice.  no journalling.
[18:22] <geecat> *ubuntu
[18:22] <llutz> cebor: check your  "$(_prompt_virtualenv)", does it exist, what is the output
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> voldyman_: oh, is it a swithable video chip?
[18:22] <cebor> no it does not exists curently
[18:22] <cebor> +r
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: yes, so the wear will be less due to no journal updates
[18:22] <voldyman_> ActionParsnip, no idea. i never has this issue before. it just started a few days ago when i stopped using xscreensaver
[18:23] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: true.  which is good for ssd drives, but you get a less stable filesystem...
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> voldyman_: if you run:   lspci | grep -i vga    do you see an Intel and an Nvidia GPU?
[18:23] <n3lthon> jrib: so www-data user for apache can read and execute a folder in /home/user/subfolder ?
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: true but it can be used :)
[18:23] <voldyman_> ActionParsnip, intel
[18:23] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: you need "lspci -v | grep -i vga" to see both hybrid cards!  voldyman_
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> voldyman_: only intel?
[18:24] <voldyman_> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) (rev 0c)
[18:24] <voldyman_> ActionParsnip, ^
[18:24] <jrib> n3lthon: right
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> voldyman_: does zykotick9's command give anything different
[18:25] <voldyman_> ActionParsnip, that is the output of zykotick9 's commad
[18:25] <guruguy> lo all...
[18:25] <guruguy> i'm in uuid hell! have setup an mdadm raid array. 4 hdds: /dev/sd[a-d]1 w/ uuid's of a001, b001, c001, d001; comprise the array /dev/md1 (root). mdadm reports the uuid for /dev/md1 as 1111. the FS_UUID reported by grub-probe AND the uuid shown in /dev/disk/by-uuid is 3456. between these uuid's: the array's (1111), and the fs's (3456). which should be used in: fstab? mdadm.conf? grub.cfg? and specific to grub(2) - if BOTH of these uuid
[18:25] <n3lthon> jrib: thanks
[18:26] <guruguy> which is used where?? my setup DOES use a sep. /boot part. (md0) - so same Q's for that.
[18:28] <galac> Hello
[18:29] <wm> hi
[18:29] <wm> can someone tell me if i can start a distro update from 12.04 to 12.10 from a mounted disc in 12.04?
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> voldyman_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1013958
[18:29] <herculesmorse> xchat indicator doesn't work with ubuntu 12.10
[18:31] <voldyman_> ActionParsnip, first of all i am not using unity, second every thing works great until i close the lid. if from my power manager i choose Do Nothing when the lid is closed, i have no problems
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> voldyman_: it seems to be a known issue. I suggest you either report a big, or add to say that it also affects you
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> voldyman_: http://www.linuxine.com/story/solved-inspiron-1525-unable-suspend-or-hibernate-ubuntu-1004
[18:33] <cebor> ActionParsnip, llutz : got it :)  "" -> ''
[18:33] <voldyman_> ActionParsnip, it does NOT crash. i can suspend and hibernate easily. i can reproduce the problem by executing slock
[18:33] <gusta715> What are the latest drivers for nvidia?
 Calinou: i would try and sort out why it crashed... try tty... check some logs..
[18:34] <Calinou> couldn't even switch ttys
[18:34] <Calinou> everything froze
[18:34] <Calinou> sound stopped playing, etc
[18:34] <holstein> Calinou: i would look at the graphics driver.. hardware.. anything you do to help narrow it down..
[18:35] <Calinou> not an hardware issue, never happened on windows
[18:35] <holstein> did you recently upgrade? have you tried a live CD? a memory test... fsck
[18:36] <holstein> Calinou: it could be a hardware support issue.. the fact that windows runs ok tells you the hardware is likely not the issue
[18:39] <MrMaDSeN> hi
[18:39] <toa> hi MrMaDSeN
[18:39] <MrMaDSeN> after creating a user with useradd does the .bash need to be in home folder?
[18:40] <bekks> MrMaDSeN: .bash is no usable file nor directory name.
[18:40] <bekks> MrMaDSeN: Use .bashrc as file name :)
[18:41] <Calinou> holstein: graphics issue is VERY likely as I was playing a game when that happened
[18:41] <Calinou> i reported the bug btw
[18:41] <MrMaDSeN> thnx.. just wanted to know if its needed i.e. when making a new home folder for a website user...
[18:41] <Calinou> the nvidia drivers are far from stable :)
[18:41] <MrMaDSeN> I guess that means I can delete so users dont watch it if they ftp in
[18:41] <holstein> Calinou: it can be challenging since we are not allowed to do much with them.. might want to consider letting nvidia know
[18:43] <arcaico> Hello. I'm looking for a good software for saving demos on Ubuntu 12.04... Can someone help-me?
[18:44] <bazhang> arcaico, screencasts?
[18:45] <carekess> hey guys where can i get skype 4.1 64-bit version?
[18:45] <gandhijee_> how can i add a menu item to the unity shell app drop down thing?
[18:47] <geecat> gandhijee_, what is the problem you are facing?
[18:48] <Calinou> also i have an issue with mouse, mouse accel setting is constantly being reset
[18:49] <Sysaxed> Calinou, "<Calinou> Sysaxed: there is none" well, looks like all I have to do is use any programming language. For example in Java these dates are handled correctly.
[18:50] <Toa> Is there a Chinese #ubuntu?  I can't find the channel.
[18:50] <Toa> carekess, www.skype.com has it I believe
[18:50] <bazhang> Toa, #ubuntu-cn
[18:50] <carekess> trying that..
[18:51] <carekess> http://www.skype.com/intl/en/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/downloading.ubuntu64 ... i open this and it starts the download for 32-bit version...any1 else seen this problem ?
[18:52] <carekess> or did i miss smtn
[18:52] <jrib> carekess: are you sure they have a 64bit version?
[18:52] <Toa> bazhang, Thanks
[18:53] <carekess> there should be a 64-bit version i think
[18:53] <jrib> !skype | carekess
[18:53] <jrib> carekess: if they don't have one, the 32bit should work fine with multi-arch
[18:53] <Toa> Pidgin has voice/video chat, too
[18:54] <carekess> yeah but software center cant install it :)
[18:54] <jrib> carekess: what ubuntu version?
[18:54] <carekess> 12.10 64-bit
[18:55] <jrib> carekess: output of: dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[18:55] <carekess> jrib: nothing comes out
[18:55] <jrib> carekess: wait, is skype no longer in the partner repos (I'm reading ubottu's wiki link)
[18:56] <carekess> nope apt-get cant install it
[18:56] <jrib> carekess: did you enable the partner repository?
[18:56] <carekess> sec
[18:57] <jrib> carekess: never mind, I just checked and I don't see a quantal package there.  Would you like to enable multi-arch?
[18:57] <carekess> i just want to install skype, i guess yes
[18:57] <jrib> carekess: let me double check the skype site for you before we do so then.
[18:58] <bazhang> !info skype partner
[18:58] <carekess> yeah i think the skype site the same file if i click on the 32-bit version or the multi-arch version
[18:58] <bazhang> jrib, ^
[18:58] <jrib> bazhang: so that's available on quantal?
[18:59] <bazhang> jrib, thats odd, that it would say oneiric
[19:00] <battlesheep> updated nvidia driver now X wont start, says kernel has module for 304 but driver is 310, how do i fix this?
[19:00] <FrostyX> hi. on czech wiki i found article about testing mic. I wanna try it on my gentoo but i really dont know what is name of this app http://wiki.ubuntu.cz/_detail/zaznamnik-zvuku.png?id=test_mikrofonu . can you tell me pls ?
[19:01] <carekess> brb
[19:01] <jrib> carekess: yeah, you should be able to use the partner repository, just follow the wiki instructions
[19:01] <jrib> bazhang: weird... hope they keep up with security fixes :x
[19:02] <Craksy> Hi all.. I'm having some issues installing Ubuntu 12.10 to my PC. I get the error "microcode: failed to load file amd-ucode/microcode_amd.bin" 3 times, followed by a black screen. are there any pros around, who can help me? :)
[19:02] <jrib> carekess: if you prefer to install the version from skype, you can do that with multi-arch
[19:04] <trism> battlesheep: did you reboot after updating the nvidia driver?
[19:04] <battlesheep> yes
[19:04] <angel_> jhi ... how can i handle users from a central server to few pc's running ubuntu 10.04 ?
[19:04] <battlesheep> it drops me a login shell
[19:04] <trism> battlesheep: can you pastebin: dkms status;
[19:04] <battlesheep> i tried apt-get update nvidia-current
[19:04] <battlesheep> ok
[19:05] <morphias> can someone help me with applying the information on http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/packaging-new-software.html to packaging my own program into a package?
[19:05] <he2> my grub does not show any list at boot up
[19:06] <he2> what could be the problem
[19:06] <battlesheep> nvidia-current, 295.40, 3.2.0-32-generic, x86_64: installed
[19:06] <jrib> morphias: you need to ask a specific question, but #ubuntu-packaging is more appropriate
[19:06] <morphias> oh ok.  ill hop overthere
[19:06] <battlesheep> nvidia-current-updates, 304.33 etc
[19:06] <angel_> he2 ... you need to press left shift at boot time to show the grub list
[19:06] <battlesheep> nvidia-exeperimental 304.48
[19:06] <angel_> and keep it pressed till it shows ... :)
[19:06] <Craksy> Does anyone know why i get the "microcode: failed to load file amd-ucode/microcode_amd.bin" when i try to install ubuntu? what does this error mean?
[19:07] <trism> battlesheep: run: sudo apt-get purge ; on all the versions you don't want, then: sudo apt-get install --reinstall the version you want
[19:07] <trism> battlesheep: there is probably some conflict in having several installed
[19:07] <he2> angel_, can i change it to show the list by default?
[19:08] <carekess> jrib: tnx
[19:08] <trism> battlesheep: you probably want nvidia-current-updates if you aren't sure, since the nvidia-current version was kind of broken, at least on my system
[19:09] <trism> battlesheep: (in 12.04)
[19:09] <battlesheep> thanks trism! it worked!
[19:09] <battlesheep> my x now starts on its own
[19:09] <trism> battlesheep: excellent
[19:10] <battlesheep> thank you very much
[19:10] <angel_> hi ... how can i handle users from a central server to few pc's running ubuntu 10.04 ?
[19:11] <Craksy> guys? any idea what is wrong? spent 2 days trying to install this now
[19:12] <Anon_Linux> ae pessoal
[19:12] <Rodrigo_Linux> ae pessoal
[19:12] <Rodrigo_Linux> tudo bem
[19:13] <Craksy> any pros around? got some issues with installation here
[19:15] <cebor> does any body know why the cmd "who am i" gives me ":0.0"   as connection ???  and not ":0" this only happens when i start mei terminal via "strg+alt+t" ???
[19:15] <cebor> its confusing me...
[19:16] <keith__> are the mactel-support repos down?
[19:16] <DaemonicApathy> Craksy: Specifically?
[19:16] <Sazpaimon> looks like ntfs-3g sadly does not convert linux symbolic links into windows symbolic links :(
[19:17] <Zuperman> hello, all. I have problem... I messed up with xrandr and somewhere along the process, my system fonts become too small... i think 6px... Is there a way to revert it back???
[19:17] <graft> does xrandr change fonts?
[19:17] <Zuperman> im using lubuntu btw
[19:18] <Zuperman> i dont know...
[19:18] <graft> i don't think it does
[19:18] <Sazpaimon> it converts them, strangely, into interix links
[19:18] <DaemonicApathy> Zuperman, have you tried relogging, or is the change persistent?
[19:18] <Sazpaimon> that's strange
[19:18] <Craksy> DaemonicApathy: i get "microcode: failed to load file amd-ucode/microcode_amd.bin" after a while, and then a black screen
[19:18] <graft> Zuperman: i'd check your font config for LXDE, however that's done
[19:19] <Zuperman> DaemonicApathy:
[19:19] <Zuperman> i havent
[19:19] <Zuperman> i will relog now
[19:19] <Zuperman> good idea :)
[19:20] <DaemonicApathy> Craksy: http://ubuntu.5.n6.nabble.com/AMD-microcode-updates-td362853.html seems to hold the solution (I can't test it, so let me know.)
[19:20] <Overand> (I'm a fairly advanced user - ubuntu, debian, arch, RHEL, etc.)  I'm looking to have an *ubuntu system with XFCE, Gnome, and possibly KDE and LXDE.  Which version should I install first?  Should I start with ubuntu, then install the xubuntu-desktop package or whatever's current?
[19:20] <hume> hi, when running apt-get update on a 12.04 machine, I get an error - GPG signatures are invalid. What do I do?
[19:21] <yourfriendisaac> How do I change the default file manager to Thunar?
[19:22] <DaemonicApathy> hume, can you paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[19:22] <babyswizz> please does ubuntu default desktop have any advange over lxde which is lighter
[19:22] <DaemonicApathy> babyswizz: lxde is lighter than Unity.
[19:23] <Guest75430> Overand: I would install the stadard base system and then install the other DE's ontop of that, however there might be good reasons to start with one of the other ubuntu based distro and you would have to look at it on a a case by case basis.
[19:23] <Overand> Guest75430: ala xubuntu or such? or one of the more 'out there' ones ala mint?
[19:24] <babyswizz> DaemonicApathy, does unity have any advantage over lighter desktop?
[19:24] <Guest75430> depends what you want, one of the closer distros kbuntu or xubuntu will probably cause less pain than some thing for away like mint
[19:24] <mah454> Hello
[19:24] <Craksy> DaemonicApathy: i get the error during installation.. How am i supposed to install the missing module/ucode/whatever it is complaining about?
[19:24] <mah454> How can install "Loard Of Ultima" on ubuntu ?
[19:24] <DaemonicApathy> babyswizz: Some people prefer how everything is laid out, how the Dash helps with searches, etc. It's all personal preference.
[19:24] <Guest75430> Overand: why do you want to install lots of DE's on the same machine?
[19:24] <mah454> I can not find it in repository !
[19:25] <yourfriendisaac> babyswizz: the advantage is a fuller experience. In terms of compatibility, will depend on your system. you cant always try a new desktop by going to synaptic and using which ever one you want there are several available
[19:25] <yourfriendisaac> sorry supposed to say "can try"
[19:25] <bekks> mah454: Thata browser game. You dont need to install something.
[19:25] <Guest75430> Overand: Why not use VM's to install the base version of each distro instaed, or do a very minimal install and just install the one you will use.
[19:26] <yourfriendisaac> How do I change the default file manager to Thunar?
[19:27] <rt_91> i forgot my password of the irc
[19:27] <DaemonicApathy> Craksy: I assume you create /lib/firmware/amd-ucode/microcode_amd.bin in the live session, but this isn't my area...
[19:27] <mah454> bekks: so , what is this ? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/05/ea-games-arrive-in-the-ubuntu-software-center
[19:27] <rt_91> can anyone help me to reset it
[19:27] <mah454> bekks: i need install it ?
[19:27] <zykotick9> rt_91: ask in #freenode for assistance
[19:27] <bekks> mah454: No...? Games for being played in the browser are not to be installed. Think of the zillion games on facebook.
[19:27] <rt_91> thanks
[19:27] <iwaffles> So I have a user who is added to a group, but for some reason cannot modify any files owned by that group, permissions seem to be set correctly, too. Any suggestions?
[19:28] <rt_91> join #freenode
[19:28] <ekhaat>  
[19:28] <Craksy> DaemonicApathy: i know how to burn a disc, and how to choose the boot option... that's pretty much it. I had kinda hoped that would be enough to get linux installed... Guess I'll try the forums then.
[19:29] <yourfriendisaac> Does anyone know how to change the default file manager? They dumbed down nautilus and it doesn't do all it used to do.
[19:29] <Cesnimda> good evening
[19:30] <DaemonicApathy> yourfriendisaac: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-replace-nautilus-with-pcman-file-manager-in-ubuntu.html replace pcman with your FM of choice.
[19:31] <yourfriendisaac> DaemonicApathy: Thanks
[19:31] <jrib> yourfriendisaac: what do you need to do in nautilus out of curiosity?
[19:32] <matthewh3> right I've just got a Ubuntu VPS and following this guide - http://docs.elgg.org/wiki/Install_Ubuntu - but :~# sudo a2enmod rewrite
[19:32] <matthewh3> sudo: a2enmod: command not found
[19:32] <jrib> matthewh3: did you install apache?
[19:32] <matthewh3> yes I followed the guide
[19:32] <babyswizz> please is it possible to make lxde lighter?
[19:32] <jrib> matthewh3: pastebin the output of « apt-cache policy apache2 »
[19:33] <jrib> matthewh3: also don't use sudo if you're already root...
[19:33] <matthewh3> what command is that?  sorry for being a newb I'm learning :P
[19:33] <yourfriendisaac> jrib: nautilus does not find open all the program choices anymore in open with and there is no way to even browse for a different one
[19:33] <jrib> matthewh3: apt-cache just returns the availability of a package
[19:33] <jrib> !pastebin | matthewh3
[19:34] <MTughan_web> I have a file with a dd dump of an NTFS partition (just the partition, not the whole disk) that I'd like to mount on Ubuntu 12.04. Unfortunately, "mount -o loop image.ntfs /media/NTFS" is giving me a couple error messages, such as "NTFS signature is missing" and "The device '/dev/loop0' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS." Anyone know how I can do this?
[19:34] <ekhaat> Craksy:  Burning the cd and booting from it might be the most difficult part of installing. I'd go with ubuntu/unity.
[19:35] <MTughan_web> I've tried various offset values too, such as 32256 (63 * 512) and 1048576 (2048 * 512), but neither work because there's no partition table here.
[19:35] <matthewh3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1363356/ don't think apache installed????
[19:36] <jrib> matthewh3: this isn't the command I assked about.  But do « apt-get update && apt-get install apache2 » and pastebin that now
[19:37] <matthewh3> yes thats working thanks :D
[19:38] <Derp> nntp
[19:38] <Derp> ta ai €
[19:38] <jaha> How can I get my ssh identity to persist across reboots so I dont have to ssh-add every login in Ubuntu 12.04, would prefer a non GUI option as im running LXDE
[19:40] <chiggins> How would I be able to install a package from a ppa, but a older version of the same package(and name) exists in the main repos?
[19:40] <matthewh3> I'm installing elgg do I need to put it in apache folder ? - http://docs.elgg.org/wiki/Installation
[19:40] <xangua> chiggins: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:41] <Craksy> ekhaat: i got it burned, and it boots alright. I even figured out how to fix a problem, by setting "nomodeset"... I just need to know what to do about the error "microcode: failed to load file amd-ucode/microcode_amd.bin"... any ideas?
[19:42] <chiggins> xangua: just did that, still got the older version
[19:42] <chiggins> it's uwsgi, if it matters
[19:42] <ekhaat> Craksy:  Oh, didn't se that part, my bad
[19:42] <matthewh3> help I'm installing elgg - http://docs.elgg.org/wiki/Installation - do I need to put it in Apache???????
[19:42] <Craksy> ekhaat: btw. i get this error both for the "try ubuntu without installing" and the "install ubuntu" options
[19:43] <ekhaat> Craksy:  Have you tried different distros with same result?
[19:43] <xangua> chiggins: i'd matter more if you say what ubuntu version do you use, what ppa are you using, what program version do you have, what version do you want..you know ;)
[19:45] <Craksy> ekhaat: well, i tried both the 32 and 64 bit versions with the same result. I haven't tried other distros yet. I'm running out of empty disks though.
[19:45] <chiggins> xangua: ubuntu 12.04.1. ppa:malept/uwsgi. I have uWSGI 1.0.3-debian, I want 1.2.3
[19:47] <xangua> chiggins: using a ppa that only has packages for lucid¿ https://launchpad.net/~malept/+archive/uwsgi :/
[19:47] <xangua> and neither the version you want :P
[19:47] <chiggins> xangua: boo :(
[19:47] <chiggins> Guess I'm gonna have to just build from source?
[19:48] <babyswizz> please is it possible to make lxde lighter?
[19:48] <gordonjcp> babyswizz: nope
[19:48] <dr_willis> run just a window manager
[19:48] <babyswizz> ok
[19:48] <gordonjcp> babyswizz: you already said, you're running in a VM on a host machine that doesn't support virtualisation
[19:48] <dr_willis> lubuntu runs fine in vbox here on my windows machine
[19:48] <gordonjcp> babyswizz: it will be incredibly slow
[19:48] <babyswizz> gordonjcp, yes
[19:48] <dr_willis> gee how old is that machine? ;)
[19:48] <gordonjcp> babyswizz: there is nothing you can do about this
[19:49] <toa> except run it natively
[19:49] <gordonjcp> babyswizz: even running a bare console-only system, it will be incredibly slow
[19:49] <gordonjcp> babyswizz: whatever the spec you're running the host OS on, divide the clock speed by 20 to get the approximate speed of the VM guest
[19:49] <babyswizz> gordonjcp, i just switched to lxde and the performance has improved greatly
[19:50] <robbie> in unity launcher there are disk icons. how can I tell which icon belongs to what device?
[19:50] <robbie> I think what I have is a device that is not in fstab ...
[19:51] <yourfriendisaac> babyswzz: try installing "mate" which is a branch of gnome2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MATE_%28desktop_environment%29
[19:53] <dr_willis>  lightest would be just a window manager like openbox or jwm
[19:53] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: that won't make any difference
[19:54] <Galvatron> gordonjcp: What's the problem?
[19:55] <babyswizz> dr_willis, i was told lxde comes with openbox has its default window manager
[19:55] <dr_willis> or course just a single web browser will be using more resources then the desktops ;)
[19:56] <dr_willis> babyswizz:  running JUST openbox would use less resouces.. but it depends on what you are doing with the vm.  Running a browser will be using like 10x the resources your window manager is..
[19:56] <dr_willis> if you got a low end system.. theres no magic to make it faster.
[19:59] <madjoe> Hi! I have two Drupal sites: one is the main one, the old one build in D5, and another is the main addition made in D7 (with Ubercart)... what's the easiest way of passing the form from D5 to the UC module on D7 site (on a subdomain)? Would something like the module Prepopulate do the trick?
[20:00] <Galvatron> !ubuntu | madjoe
[20:01] <Galvatron> madjoe: We're a Ubuntu support channel, so your question doesn't fit here.
[20:01] <madjoe> Galvatron: sorry, wrong window! :) lol
[20:02] <Galvatron> Forgot the commands for the bot...
[20:06] <Kart> galvatron: when bot  (ignore)
[20:09] <varunpriolkar> i need help with dd count
[20:09] <varunpriolkar> need to backup something without backing up unallocated space
[20:09] <varunpriolkar> how do i determine count?
[20:09] <blackness> creating a img?
[20:09] <varunpriolkar> yes
[20:09] <blackness> hm, ive always used tar for a complete backup..
[20:10] <blackness> moment
[20:10] <rymate1234> hey
[20:10] <varunpriolkar> hey rymate1234!
[20:10] <varunpriolkar> here are the partitions i want to use:
[20:10] <varunpriolkar> /dev/sdb2        3533228  2497024    856680  75% /media/berryboot
[20:10] <varunpriolkar> /dev/sdb1          64366    28456     35910  45% /media/05B4-5B09
[20:10] <varunpriolkar> total size: 8068792320 bytes (8.1 GB)
[20:10] <blackness> so use tar to create a archive of it.
[20:10] <Kart> varunpriolkar: please paste bin for content related stuff
[20:11] <blackness> it will do whats on the slice
[20:11] <Kart> much easier to view from there
[20:11] <varunpriolkar> okay Kart!
[20:11] <mrfree> aaarrrggg is seems to be a very bad regression https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=845745
[20:11] <varunpriolkar> well i need to redistribute it as an image..
[20:13] <varunpriolkar> http://pastebin.com/HW7aTzfZ
[20:13] <bekks> varunpriolkar: So what are you trying to do?
[20:13] <Zuperman> hello, need help. running lubuntu 11.10, and dont have xorg.conf (empty). when i try to reconfigure it, i get error message with line: number of detected screens does not match number of detected devices. My card is old, ati 9000 all in wonder
[20:13] <varunpriolkar> bekks: create an image for raspberry pi
[20:14] <Zuperman> can someone help me???
[20:14] <varunpriolkar> i need a way to determine "count" for dd
[20:14] <bekks> varunpriolkar: Because...? Dont you want to image the whole partitions?
[20:15] <varunpriolkar> bekks: i do.. but i dont want the unpartitioned space.. i want dd to read only the first x blocks
[20:15] <bekks> varunpriolkar: Everything that can be seen in your paste is partitioned.
[20:16] <varunpriolkar> bekks: nah.. those are just the mounted partitions..
[20:16] <mrfree> is it possible to replace grub2 with something other?
[20:16] <chad_> can someone help me understand what I would have to do to enable apt-get to install updates when I can SSH into the box but cannot get at my repos through the firewall?
[20:17] <chad_> I know it should be possible...
[20:17] <bekks> varunpriolkar: Then image then - after unmounting them. You'll have no unpartitioned space in your image.
[20:19] <Jordan_U> mrfree: Why do you want to?
[20:20] <DDAZZA> I'm getting this error when doing an update. How can I fix it? http://pastebin.com/VbZUNC9R
[20:21] <martian> Hey folks, if I set a folder to be owned by the X group, how can I make it so all files or folders created within it in the future retain that group owner as well?
[20:21] <Bier_> does anyone know why i cant start xbmc full screen on my second monitor
[20:21] <varunpriolkar> bekks: well i dont think thatll work.. from what i have seen on other forums..
[20:22] <bekks> varunpriolkar: All you need in addition is an image of the MBR, too. So basically sdb1, sdb2 and the first 512 bytes of sdb,
[20:23] <mrfree> Jordan_U: https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/8/21/36
[20:23] <mrfree> ubuntu 12.10 doesn't work on my latitude intel i915
[20:23] <varunpriolkar> bekks: correct...
[20:24] <mrfree> Jordan_U: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=845745
[20:25] <Jordan_U> mrfree: And what makes you think that switching to a different bootloader is required to fix this kernel bug?
[20:27] <cronus> bekks, does the first partition start at sector 1?
[20:27] <Kartagis> how can I see ubottu's messageparser settings?
[20:28] <bekks> cronus: Not necessarilly.
[20:28] <Kartagis> ot though
[20:28] <cronus> bekks, maybe 512 isn't the correct value then
[20:29] <leti0377> ciao
[20:29]  * dr_willis hides from the !list
[20:29] <Teduardo> does anyone know where upstart gets it's settings for the command start mysql/stop mysql?
[20:30] <Teduardo> I did update-rc.d mysql remove
[20:30] <Teduardo> and if i type start mysql it still tries to start it
[20:30] <dr_willis> Teduardo:  upstart uses servicename.conf files in /etc/init/
[20:30] <dr_willis> im not sure that update-rc.d command works with services that are handled totally by upstart
[20:30] <genii-around> Teduardo: "start servicename" is upstart, "service servicename start" is sysvinit
[20:30] <leti0377> !list
[20:31] <dr_willis> its a vestage from the old sysv days
[20:31] <genii-around> Teduardo: update-rc.d is sysvinit
[20:31] <dr_willis> leti0377:  why do you feel the need to do a !list in a support channel?
[20:32] <Teduardo> So is /etc/init/mysql.conf the config file for upstart or for sysvinit?
[20:32] <dr_willis> upstart uses /etc/init
[20:33] <fulminator> hello, can someone help me with a c++ issue?
[20:33] <mrfree> Jordan_U: it seems related with grub2 and kernel3.5... 12.10 from livecd works
[20:33] <Teduardo> is there a way to just disable upstart for mysql?
[20:34] <dr_willis> rename the whatever.conf to whatever.dontrun  ;)
[20:34] <dr_willis> but whats the actual problem?
[20:34] <dr_willis> i dont see why you are doing all this song and dance. ;)
[20:34] <Teduardo> because i replaced mysql 5.5 with 5.6.8rc
[20:35] <Teduardo> and upstart isn't using the values from /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[20:35] <Jordan_U> mrfree: Have you tried uncommenting "GRUB_TERMINAL=console" in /etc/default/grub and re-running update-grub (as said in that bug report's comments)? If you can't boot at all, you can either run update-grub from a chroot from the LiveCD, or you can temporarily switch to console mode in grub by pressing 'c' to get to the grub menu and running "terminal_output console", then press escape to return to the menu.
[20:35] <Teduardo> like it should be
[20:35] <dr_willis> upstat just starts the service.. thats nothing to do with what config file mysql is using for MySwls settings...
[20:35] <Jordan_U> mrfree: s/to get to the grub menu/to get to the grub shell/
[20:35] <mrfree> Jordan_U: I've tried without success
[20:35] <fulminator> hello, can someone help me with a c++ issue?
[20:36] <Jordan_U> mrfree: What have you tried exactly?
[20:36] <dr_willis> Unless you are thinking upstart is somehow telling it to use some other config
[20:36] <dr_willis> then that upstart.conf file in /etc/init may show what its launching
[20:36] <Jordan_U> mrfree: Could you pastebin your /etc/default/grub and your /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[20:36] <dr_willis> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/  best docs for upstart ive found,
[20:36] <wsirc_6776748> quick question.. not ubuntu-related: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbdqc2pusZ1rqfksw.gif is this guy from a TV show or a movie?
[20:37] <wsirc_6776748> quick question.. not ubuntu-related: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbdqc2pusZ1rqfksw.gif is this guy from a TV show or a movie?
[20:37] <Kartagis> sorry for ot, but who can help me about ubottu?
[20:37] <wsirc_6776748> quick question.. not ubuntu-related: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbdqc2pusZ1rqfksw.gif is this guy from a TV show or a movie?
[20:37] <mrfree> Jordan_U: I've added GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console" in the /etc/default/grub; update-grub; cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | grep console == > terminal_output consoleonsole  ==>
[20:37] <wsirc_6776748> quick question.. not ubuntu-related: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbdqc2pusZ1rqfksw.gif is this guy from a TV show or a movie?
[20:37] <mrfree> Jordan_U: reboot and it doesn't work
[20:37] <wsirc_6776748> a
[20:37] <wsirc_6776748> a
[20:37] <wsirc_6776748> a
[20:37] <FloodBot1> wsirc_6776748: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:38] <gusta715> Why is my kernel called amd64 when I don't have any hardware from AMD?
[20:38] <mrfree> Jordan_U: I can otherwise try downgrading kernel to 3.4
[20:38] <kunji> gusta715: because it's 64 bit
[20:38] <gusta715> Or, the distribution maybe.
[20:38] <gusta715> kukuri: Does AMD mean 64-bit? o_O
[20:38] <dr_willis> gusta715:  becasue amd had 64bit hardware first
[20:39] <dr_willis> intel licensed it from them
[20:39] <dr_willis> or somting like that
[20:40] <srj001> anyone know how to create a complete installation of ubuntu off of one's existing installation?
[20:41] <kunji> gusta715: AMD came up with the 64 bit standard that most 64 bit hardware is based on, including that which Intel makes.  Hence they are said to be the AMD64 architecture machines.  As most 32 bit machines are Intel x86, which includes the common i386 among others
[20:41] <dr_willis> srj001:  you want an identical clone?
[20:41] <Teduardo> soon amd wont exist and it wont matter
[20:41] <kunji> Teduardo: unlikely, if the cease to exist Intel might get broken up in some anti-trust litigation.
[20:41] <kunji> *they
[20:42] <bulletrulz> alt+f4 changes the color of ur text
[20:42] <kunji> bulletrulz: wrong place to troll
[20:42] <bulletrulz> lol
[20:42] <bulletrulz> ok sorry xD
[20:42] <kunji> :P
[20:42] <gordonjcp> !ops | bulletrulz
[20:42] <gusta715> bulletrulz: How do I exit my IRC client?
[20:43] <Pricey> bulletrulz: This channel's for support, lets not trick users :)
[20:43] <WeThePeople> hi
[20:44] <gusta715> Can't they rename it to x64? That's more neutral. Or x86-64.
[20:44] <gusta715> Seeing amd64 everywhere is strange.
[20:45] <dr_willis> its been amd64 for years..
[20:45] <dr_willis> seeing it change would be stranger
[20:45] <dr_willis> and yes some disrto makers do use other names
[20:45] <kunji> gusta715: Too late now.  x86-64 exists and is a different standard Intel came up with afterwards, it didn't do so well.  Note though that Intel does the same thing, the i in i386 etc.. is for Intel.
[20:46] <gusta715> The instruction set is Intel's innovation. So that would make sense.
[20:46] <dr_willis> the 64bit instruction set is amds
[20:46] <whoever> hi all, how do i instll wxpytron on 12.04 there doesn't seem to be a package for it or instructions that work i have tried http://onlyopen.wordpress.com/2012/07/04/installing-wxwidgets-and-wxpython-on-ubuntu-or-debian-7-2/
[20:46] <gusta715> "Intel 64 is Intel's implementation of x86-64. It is used in newer versions of Pentium 4, Celeron D, Xeon and Pentium Dual-Core processors, the Atom D510, N450, N550, N2600 and N2800 and in all versions of the Pentium Extreme Edition, Core 2, Core i7, Core i5, and Core i3 processors."
[20:47] <dr_willis> not really a ubuntu support topic any more...
[20:47] <kunji> gusta715: Hmm, where is that quoted from?
[20:47] <ekhaat> is this channel going to be a discussion on processors?
[20:47] <gusta715> kunji: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd64
[20:48] <kunji> Than why are you asking us :P, also we should probably move to #hardware or some such if we want to continue the conversation.
[20:48] <Pricey> whoever: "apt-cache search wx"
[20:48] <Pricey> whoever: Then just "apt-get install <packagename>" as appropriate. It looks like its all in the standard repositories.
[20:49] <Pricey> whoever: Unless you know what you're doing, adding random repositories is a bad idea.
[20:49] <WeThePeople> how do i install b43 using modprobe for my wireless device?
[20:50] <WeThePeople> its a cm
[20:50] <WeThePeople> bcm
[20:50] <bekks> WeThePeople: sudo modprobe b43
[20:51] <WeThePeople> bekks, ok did that, the device doesnt see any wireless connections in network manager
[20:52] <WeThePeople> do i need to restart
[20:57] <grendl> help
[20:57] <varunpriolkar> bekks: thanks man! problem solved
[20:57] <k1l_> !ask | grendl
[20:58] <mag]]> !patience
[20:59] <gusta715> Also, people won't answer if they're feeling full of themselves.
[20:59] <whoever> is thre a way to install wxpython in ubuntu 12.04 or do i have to do it in windows
[21:00] <dr_willis> python-wxversion - wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (wxPython version selector)
[21:00] <dr_willis> pythoncard-doc - wxPython-based GUI construction framework (documentation and samples)
[21:00] <mag]]> pip search wxpython
[21:00] <dr_willis> seems its in the repos
[21:09] <gordonjcp> is there a volume control applet thing that works with ALSA?
[21:09] <gordonjcp> when I delete pulseaudio, the volume control stops working
[21:09] <varunpriolkar> alsamixer
[21:09] <varunpriolkar> type that in
[21:09] <lollko> right
[21:10] <gordonjcp> varunpriolkar: yes, I know about alsamixer
[21:10] <gordonjcp> that isn't what I asked
[21:10] <lollko> use sudo apt-get install alsamixer ;)
[21:10] <gordonjcp> lollko: again, that's not what I asked
[21:10] <lollko> ohm
[21:10] <lollko> i see and read again
[21:11] <pledgez> gordonjcp a plugin
[21:11] <lollko> do you have plugin works with alsamixer?
[21:12] <lollko> sorry my english is not good...
[21:12] <varunpriolkar> you need to make alsa default i guess
[21:12] <WeThePeople> is there a command parallel to 'emerge' in gentoo for ubuntu
[21:12] <bekks> Sure. "apt-get".
[21:12] <gordonjcp> WeThePeople: What exactly are you trying to do?
[21:12] <gordonjcp> WeThePeople: normally you'd just install from apt
[21:13] <WeThePeople> bekks, see this>>> http://wiki.sabayon.org/index.php?title=Using_the_new_b43_driver
[21:13] <gordonjcp> if you're trying to create a package from source, it's a bit more involved
[21:13] <bekks> WeThePeople: See this: ;)
[21:13] <bekks> !wifi > WeThePeople
[21:13] <varunpriolkar> gordonjcp: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ifeY7XaQDnYJ:howto.blbosti.com/2010/04/ubuntu-make-alsa-default-instead-of-pulseaudio/+&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=in&client=ubuntu
[21:18] <valdes> Anyone knows if there're someway to load a custom DSDT in ubuntu 12.10 without recompile the kernel?
[21:19] <bekks> valdes: Yes. No.
[21:19] <bekks> valdes: You have to recompile the kernel for including the DSDT.
[21:21] <valdes> :( Thanks you
[21:23] <pledgez> if ubuntu do not recognise my graphics driver on instillation . What should i do then ? Is my pc doomed ? How do i check if ubuntu will work with my hardware or not before i install the software ?
[21:23] <disputin> livecd
[21:23] <krababbel> pledgez: use the live desktop
[21:24] <pledgez> oh livecd desktop thanks
[21:24] <beecrofth> hello
[21:24] <beecrofth> hello
[21:24] <beecrofth> im looking for ubuntu assistance
[21:25] <cookie1980> right channel :)
[21:25] <Galvatron> pledgez	What's your GPU?
[21:26] <pledgez> ATI Radeon HD 3200
[21:26] <pledgez> ubuntu 12.10 dont like that card
[21:26] <lollko> pledgez: download oficial package on amd.com
[21:26] <beecrofth> i made a usb boot drive and want to install ubuntu to my hard drive so i dont need the usb anymore. I dont wont windows anymore. so i tried to install it, erasing everything on windows. it says installed when i click on the "install ubuntu" icon, but everytime i boot my computer its like starting fresh. no documents save, wireless settings are deleted etc. help?
[21:28] <cookie1980> beecrofth: just to be sure, did you disable boot from usb?
[21:28] <beecrofth> how do i do that? bios menu?
[21:28] <cookie1980> beecrofth: the easiest way is to disconnect your usb drive ;)
[21:29] <beecrofth> did that! when i boot it boots with just a solid purple screen. no ubuntu logo or anything
[21:29] <designbybeck> I see 10GB free, how do I expand my partition 1 to all that: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/40509
[21:29] <Deivid> who is using 12.04.1?
[21:30] <cookie1980> beecrofth: how long did you wait before restarting?
[21:30] <beecrofth> a minute or so
[21:30] <varunpriolkar> designbybeck: ull have to unount it before resizing
[21:30] <varunpriolkar> *unmount
[21:30] <Galvatron> Deivid: I do
[21:31] <varunpriolkar> pick up a gparted livecd
[21:31] <designbybeck> but i'm booted into it varunpriolkar
[21:31] <cookie1980> beecrofth: that's enough time i guess
[21:31] <designbybeck> it is a VM
[21:31] <Deivid> Galvatron
[21:31] <designbybeck> maybe i can boot into another ISO and do it
[21:31] <Deivid> are u using facebook feed on gwibber?
[21:31] <varunpriolkar> designbybeck: boot into gparted livecd in the vm and do it..
[21:31] <pledgez> lollko i updated the drivers , still wont work
[21:31] <Galvatron> Deivid: No
[21:31] <Deivid> ok
[21:31] <designbybeck> ok varunpriolkar thank you
[21:32] <Deivid> tks
[21:32] <beecrofth>  cookie1980: what should i do
[21:32] <varunpriolkar> designbybeck: no problem :)
[21:32] <cookie1980> beecrofth: what hardware do you have?
[21:33] <beecrofth> HP Pavilion something
[21:33] <beecrofth> cookie1980: hp pavilion something
[21:33] <cookie1980> beecrofth: 32 bit processor? or something newer?
[21:33] <pollita> hola
[21:33] <beecrofth> cookie 1980: 32 bit!
[21:33] <cookie1980> what image did you copy to your usb drive?
[21:34] <beecrofth> cookie 1980: uhh. whatever the newest one is
[21:34] <pledgez> i also have Hp pc , seems ubuntu dont like HP
[21:34] <Deivid> HP G62
[21:34] <Deivid> ubuntu 12.04 working awesome
[21:34] <Deivid> so ubuntu DO LIKE hp
[21:35] <cookie1980> i installed a HP with debian today, quite similar
[21:35] <Sazpaimon> my laptop has a keyboard with a programmable backlight color that's controlled by some userland application in windows
[21:35] <beecrofth> cookie 1980: whats debian? im a n000b
[21:35] <cookie1980> beecrofth: try to download a 32 bit image and start over with it
[21:35] <Sazpaimon> is there any such alternative for Linux? The laptop is an MSI GT780
[21:35] <beecrofth> cookie 1980: how do i do that?
[21:36] <deadmund> beecrofth: Debian is the linux distribution that ubuntu is based on.
[21:36] <lThess523> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 on an HP laptop. No problems.
[21:36] <cookie1980> beecrofth: try this link http://www.ubuntu.com/pre-download?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=latest
[21:37] <beecrofth> cookie 1980: and download directly to computer? or do i need to create a usb boot drive again?
[21:37] <invariant> Why is there no ffmpeg-dev package?
[21:37] <gordonjcp> Sazpaimon: do you know what controls the LEDs?
[21:37] <cookie1980> beecrofth: you need to create a new one
[21:37] <carl0s-> I am adding an RDP server to the Ubuntu Single Sign On portal. The one that shows up on the login greeter. Where it says "Server URL", what am I supposed to put? I put the FQDN of my internet-accessible RDP server, but it gets changed to a http://server.domain.com/ URL. What gives?? I tried putting rdp://server.domain.com, but it still gets changed to http:// , and it doesn't work!
[21:38] <user651299> Hi everyone, is this the right channel for questions regarding firewalling ubuntu?
[21:38] <gordonjcp> user651299: yes
[21:38] <beecrofth> cookie 1980: okay. whats the best software to use to make the boot drive? i tried one yesterday that didnt work (cant remember the name) and ended up using unetbootin
[21:38] <gordonjcp> user651299: are you running a server on a machine directly connected to the Internet?
[21:38] <user651299> Gordonjcp: brilliant, well here goes...
[21:38] <mspencer> Hi, my background has been replaced with a black background several times recently. Is this a bug or did I mess something up?
[21:39] <cookie1980> beecrofth: on what OS are you for the moment?
[21:39] <gordonjcp> mspencer: is your background on a network or removable drive?
[21:39] <carl0s-> Also, my desktop is still rubbish. Doesn't matter if I create a new user, I still have a "sticky" desktop. The desktop is crashed and any windows I drag across it get painted all over it. I end up where all four of my workspaces show what I had open on workspace1, but all those other workspaces are just "paintings" of workspace 1. I have to cycle through them all to find out which is my actual working browser, and which are just "stuck pa
[21:39] <carl0s-> intings" of my browser. LAME.
[21:39] <beecrofth> cookie 1980: ubuntu. i have another computer running Windows XPthough
[21:39] <cookie1980> beecrofth: are you on ubuntu live? i mean do you use a live cd right now?
[21:40] <designbybeck> varunpriolkar: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/40511 I booted and i'm in gparted, just not sure what to do now?
[21:40] <beecrofth> cookie 1980: i am on ubuntu desktop running from a usb boot drive
[21:40] <mspencer> gordonjcp: No, it the default background (version is 12.04).
[21:41] <cookie1980> beecrofth: ok, you should download it from your windows computer
[21:41] <datasys> no puedo instalar mi tarjeta broadcom en ubuntu  help! XD
[21:42] <beecrofth> cookie 1980: so your suggestion is to just make a brand new boot drive, then using the "Install Ubuntu" desktop icon try to reinstall it?
[21:42] <cookie1980> beecrofth: yes
[21:42] <cookie1980> beecrofth: you should even download a new image
[21:42] <beecrofth> cookie 1980: okay will do. and use unetbootin? is that what u used?
[21:43] <mspencer> gordonjcp: I came across this question on Ask Ubuntu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/142156/disappearing-background
[21:43] <cookie1980> beecrofth: on http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ you will find a nice tool for windows
[21:43] <datasys> ¿whatś the channel ubuntu in spanish?
[21:44] <mspencer> gordonjcp: But I'm not sure what exactly causes my background to go black, and it never looks like an maximized app
[21:44] <beecrofth> cookie 1980: when i used that one last, there was no option to create a boot for the current version of ubuntu. and it wouldnt work when i tried to boot the drive
[21:44] <Galvatron> !spanish | datasys
[21:45] <mspencer> Also, the unity color based on the background has not changed.
[21:45] <gordonjcp> mspencer: I have no idea
[21:46] <gordonjcp> mspencer: I was just suggesting something that's tripped people up in the past
[21:46] <cookie1980> beecrofth: this one works just fine: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/liveusb-install-live-usb-creator/
[21:46] <user651299> Gordonjcp: ...assuming a firewall is configured to deny inbound traffic on all ports, is there any way of communicating with that machine?
[21:46] <beecrofth> cookie 1980: perfect. thats not the one i used before! thanks so much for your help. wish me luck!
[21:47] <cookie1980> beecrofth: good luck! ;)
[21:47] <mspencer> gordonjcp: Should I report this as a bug?
[21:47] <gordonjcp> mspencer: possibly
[21:47] <lThess523> I need some Ubuntu inspiration. Is anybody doing something truly creative on their Ubuntu box?
[21:47] <gordonjcp> user651299: if you deny *all* inbound traffic?  No
[21:48] <gordonjcp> user651299: you may as well just unplug the ethernet cable, though
[21:48] <mspencer> gordonjcp: It just started happening recently, so I don't know if I messed something up.
[21:48] <Sazpaimon> gordonjcp, No idea
[21:49] <cookie1980> lThess523: what about blender3d, that is creative :)
[21:49] <Sazpaimon> I've read that if you actually run the LED manager in a windows VM, it will work, so it must not be something very low leve
[21:49] <gordonjcp> Sazpaimon: maybe have a look at the output of lsusb
[21:50] <gordonjcp> Sazpaimon: or see if there's anything in dmesg that might give you a clue
[21:50] <Sazpaimon> gordonjcp, the keyboard is ps/2
[21:50] <lThess523> Cookie1980: I'll take a look
[21:51] <user651299> Gordonjcp: unless i the machine in question only needed to check external sources and output that to a monitor
[21:52] <Sazzo> Hi.. 12.04 server. I updated my kernel and was faced with a option screen saying the menu.lst can be modified.  I was offered to leave it alone or choose the package maintainer's version.  Is there anything dangerous about the wrong choice?  Other than booting into the same kernel as before?  For reference: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/ubuntu-grub-unchanged-734864/
[21:53] <Sazzo> Also, I never rebooted. I thought I'd ask here first.
[21:53] <Xix19> I just installed samba but I can't share a folder for read and write, I get "access denied"
[21:53] <Xix19> I added "security=share" and "guest ok=yes" in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[21:54] <Xix19> and "service smb restart" after of course
[21:54] <Xix19> why do I still get access denied?
[21:54] <WeThePeople> anybody know which binary file i use with fwcutter for a bcm device
[21:54] <bekks> !wifi
[21:55] <gordonjcp> user651299: but if you've blocked all inbound traffic, you won't get responses from the devices you check
[21:55] <bekks> WeThePeople: Which chipset do you have exactly?
[21:55] <altermann> hello
[21:55] <WeThePeople> bekks,4306 r3
[21:56] <altermann> is there no "wheel" group for Ubuntu?
[21:56] <gordonjcp> altermann: not by default
[21:57] <user651299> Gordonjcp: ah, but of course, youre right, i didnt think of that, food for thought, thank you :)
[21:57] <gordonjcp> user651299: obviously you'd need to be more specific about what you firewall off
[21:57] <altermann> is "adm" its equivalent?
[21:57] <gordonjcp> user651299: and of course if you're behind NAT, you don't really need to bother
[21:57] <bekks> WeThePeople: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#supported
[21:59] <user651299> Gordonjcp: thank you, i have lots of reading, now. Your help is very much appreciated, bye!
[21:59] <Honvai> Hello. If I download yellow dog linux for iPad, and link it to the PlayStation will install it?
[22:02] <MonkeyDust> Honvai  how is your question ubuntu related?
[22:02] <Honvai> troll you
[22:03] <altermann> Honvai, is YLD even available for the Ipad?
[22:03] <WeThePeople> where do firmware extracts usually go?
[22:04] <WeThePeople> what dir.
[22:04] <altermann> i'm pretty sure there's a channel for YLD support
[22:04] <Honvai> I do not know
[22:05] <mikey1234> Is it possible to use Chrome's PepperFlash plugin on other browsers since it contains the latest flash player?
[22:05] <helpme> hello
[22:06] <bekks> WeThePeople: /lib/firmware/
[22:06] <bekks> WeThePeople: "The standard place where firmware is installed to is /lib/firmware." - From my last link. :)
[22:06] <mikey1234> Also where does Chrome store its plugins like flash?
[22:09] <xangua> mikey1234: you can use it in chromium :P http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/how-to-make-chromium-use-flash-player.html
[22:09] <ivoq> mikey1234, look in /opt/google/chrome/
[22:09] <ivoq> depending on the version, there is libflashplugin.so in there somewhere
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> If you are using chrome, you don't need flash, it has flash.....
[22:10] <mikey1234> One more question: Where do the preferences for chrome reside in? I'm looking for stuff that's found on Windows at /Users/AppData/Google/Chrome/localstate or /Preferences.
[22:11] <mikey1234> ActionParsnip: Thanks for that, I had no idea it had flash.
[22:11] <ivoq> ~/.config/google-chrome/
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> mikey1234: yes, you don't need any flash packages installed, bliss
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> mikey1234: btw, chrome is not chromium
[22:12] <mikey1234> ActionParsnip: Fine. That wasn't my question, which was answered already.
[22:12] <mikey1234> Also, thanks ivoq.
[22:13] <ivoq> you're welcome
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> mikey1234: if you copy the flash plugin to /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins    it will be used by Chromium
[22:16] <Sazzo> Hi.. 12.04 server. I updated my kernel and was faced with a option screen saying the menu.lst can be modified.  I was offered to leave it alone or choose the package maintainer's version.  Is there anything dangerous about the wrong choice?  Other than booting into the same kernel as before?  For reference: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/ubuntu-grub-unchanged-734864/  I didn't reboot yet.. thought I'd ask first.
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> Sazzo: that is grub legacy, i'd use the maintainers one then install Grub2 for an easy life
[22:19] <vekin> is there an nvidia-smi package in any repos that I can install?
[22:19] <vekin> very frustrating
[22:20] <Flyzoola> hey guys, having problems (again). I am unable to update my version of 10.04. I am unable to also load any flash content ant this is a clean install of 10.04. **ANOTHER FRESH INSTALL IN NOT AN OPTION BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A FLOPPY OR CD DRIVE, AND MY BIOS IS TOO OLD TO SUPPORT BOOTING THROUGH USB** So far those have been today's problems :/
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> vekin: can you give the output of:  apt-cache policy nvidia-smi; sudo apt-get install nvidia-smi; lsb_release -a        Thanks, use a pastebin
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> !caps | Flyzoola
[22:20] <vekin> ActionParsnip: thats not a real package
[22:21] <Sazzo> ActionParsnip, is there any risk on leaving the original grub alone?  I ask this because this server is 20 miles away.. I took over this role. :)
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: Lucid desktop has 6 month support left....
[22:21] <Flyzoola> Sorry, just felt that needed to be emphasized since I'm always being told to just "fresh install"
[22:21] <vekin> its 12.10 and im using bumblebee-nvidia
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: do you have a second PC?
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: you can put the drive in another PC, install the the drive then put it back in the original PC
[22:22] <Flyzoola> ActionParsnip, No I don't have a second PC.
[22:22] <Flyzoola> I just emphasized that a clean install isn't an option...
[22:23] <Flyzoola> I literally had to commune 3 hours to get this install, I don't feel like doing that again.
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: so you cannot update your OS? Is that the issue?
[22:23] <atrius> i made a change to an upstart job's conf file.. however.. a service XXXX restart doesn't reflect the change... is there something else that needs to be done? some update command or other?
[22:24] <vekin> Flyzoola: in a clutch you can always just boot a livecd like sysrescuecd directly from grub2
[22:24] <vekin> and install the OS that way
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> Sazzo: you could keep it but it is recommended to move to the newer grub
[22:24] <Flyzoola> ActionParsnip, I can't update it, and I can't use flash on either chrome or firefox. As I mentioned I am on a 10 year old pc.
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: can you install normal updates?
[22:25] <Flyzoola> Veiken, I was told to not use caps on an emphasis on how I can't do a clean install because I don't have a floppy, or disk drive. And my BIOS is too old to support booting from USB.
[22:25] <Flyzoola> Actionparsnip, like through the package manager? I fixed a couple (more like a couple dozen) broken packages through here. Just a big pain the in the rear.
[22:25] <auronandace> Flyzoola: he just told you to use grub to boot the iso on your harddrive directly
[22:26] <vekin> Flyzoola: i didn't suggest that i said you can boot a livecd image from grub2
[22:26] <jgspratt> Hello, I am trying to apt-get isntall vmfs-tools but I got a "E: Unable to locate package vfs-tools"
[22:26] <Flyzoola> myapologies
[22:26] <jgspratt> How can I fix this E?
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> !find vfs
[22:27] <Flyzoola> veikin, that's probably a bit out of my league. I am just a casual user that likes Ubuntu because it runs on my crappy old PC. I'm in no way shape or form knowledgeable in how it works
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> jgspratt: click the link above
[22:28] <vekin> oh.. well if you aren't familiar at all with grub or installing linux without an automated installer it would probably be best to not attempt
[22:28] <jgspratt> ActionParsnip: that is not the package I am trying to install actually
[22:28] <Flyzoola> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/iBZZ861y
[22:28] <jgspratt> it is this one: http://glandium.org/projects/vmfs-tools/
[22:29] <jgspratt> You can see how to install it here: http://digfor.blogspot.com/2011/04/accessing-vmfs-partitions.html
[22:29] <guntbert> !info vmfs-tools
[22:29] <vekin> !info nvidia-smi
[22:29] <vekin> T.T
[22:29] <guntbert> jgspratt: did you enable "universe"
[22:29] <jgspratt> what is that? is that a repo?
[22:30] <guntbert> !repos | jgspratt
[22:30] <jgspratt> (I'm on a live cd)
[22:30] <Blacklist> enable "universe jgspratt
[22:30] <guntbert> jgspratt: then you need to enable the "software source" universe
[22:31] <jgspratt> the source? the repo is the source?
[22:33] <guntbert> jgspratt: there are several ways to do that. In software center click on edit/software sources
[22:33] <Blacklist> jgspratt, open synaptic and  enable the "software source" universe
[22:33] <Honvai> Hellp. Help http://paste.lisp.org/display/133778#1
[22:33] <Ycarene> Ugh, I can't my dkms to work with the 3.5.0-18-generic kernel.
[22:33] <guntbert> there enable "community-maintained" (universe)
[22:34] <DaemonicApathy> Flyzoola: Just curious, what kind of hardware are you running on? You mentioned it was old.
[22:34] <guntbert> Blacklist: on a live system he won't have synaptic
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: sudo apt-get --purge remove adobe-flash-properties-gtk adobe-flashplugin; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[22:34] <jgspratt> It didn't recognize my mouse.  Is there a way to use linux via the command line to enable a repo?
[22:35] <jgspratt> (its an optical mouse, so maybe its too new)
[22:35] <Flyzoola> DaemonicApathy, I have a stock hp pavilion 304w for the most part. Just has about 1.3 gbs of ram.
[22:35] <jgspratt> ok, I found the sources file
[22:35] <yeats> Honvai: ipads are not supported here
[22:35] <guntbert> jgspratt: press the win-key, type "soft", press <enter>, then you software center should start
[22:36] <Honvai> troll
[22:36] <guntbert> !here | Honvai
[22:36] <jgspratt> guntbert: thanks!
[22:36] <guntbert> jgspratt: You're welcome :)
[22:37] <blackness> jgspratt, get it figured out?
[22:37] <Honvai> how to install ubuntu in ipad3
[22:37] <bekks> Honvai: Please stop trolling.
[22:38] <jgspratt> I think so, yeah. I had to install vim because the arrow keys wouldn't work in this vi, but I wrote universe and multiverse at the end of a line in sources.list and did an update
[22:38] <jgspratt> seems happy
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> Honvai: why buy a crippled half spec'd pad pc then expect it to be able to accommodate anything but Apple's dumbass OS?
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> Honvai: what sort of mentality is that?
[22:38] <jgspratt> grabbing vmfs-tools now!
[22:38] <Blacklist> jgspratt,  open the terminal and paste this sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"
[22:39] <varunpriolkar> Honvai: http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CB0QtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DfpXmVzxl6JA&ei=ecCmUJH1CIuqrAfs0oHYBA&usg=AFQjCNG6yye4_aB6RAloBMkLXKaNFqe0Bg check that out..
[22:39] <jgspratt> Blacklist: why do I need that?
[22:39] <jgspratt> do you know what I'm trying to do?
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> Honvai: the whole idea of ipads is that they are for morons who don't want to think but have the spare cash to splash on an underspecced system. Then you expect the system (from one of the most closed minded companies around) to be able to have anything but the iPad OS on it?Are you serious?
[22:40] <guntbert> jgspratt: thx for the remark about vi/vim - some student recently complained about misbehaving arrow keys in vi
[22:40] <Blacklist> enable sorce universe
[22:40] <jgspratt> yeah. they are weired.  they type capital letters.
[22:41] <Flyzoola> actionparsnip, just finished installing the flash plug in. But flash still crashes
[22:41] <guntbert> jgspratt: and nowyou told me a way to remedy that :)
[22:41] <jgspratt> yep, install 25MB of vim and you're good to go.
[22:41] <Honvai> yes i
[22:42] <Honvai> am serious
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: not sure then. All I can suggest is remove all flash packages and install Chrome, it has flash already in.
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> Honvai: can you not see where the question completely falls down?
[22:42] <ShinyObjects1> Woo! Hey everyone - if anyone's stuck running Outlook in a virtual machine hit me up. I made a fun little script that will let you get notifications on your linux desktop when you get mail in outlook in the VM
[22:42] <Flyzoola> ActionParsnip, I have chrome installed but it says it failed to load flash on it
[22:42] <ShinyObjects1> Message me if you'd like it
[22:43] <ShinyObjects1> It's nice not to have to check on the VM every few minutes
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> Honvai: http://ipadqueries.com/possible-install-ubuntu-linux-ipad-886.html
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> ShinyObjects1: why run outlook when there are so many email clients for Ubuntu which are native
[22:44] <edoceo> How does one set the TZ from CLI?  `dpkg-reconfigure tzdata` has that prompt window come up, I just want to force to 'America/Chicago'
[22:44] <ShinyObjects1> ActionParsnip: Because Thunderbird caused me to get kicked off the domain every time it checked for mail and Evolution crashed randomly or gave me faulty data
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> ShinyObjects1: any other clients tested?
[22:44] <ShinyObjects1> (and leaked memory like a sieve)
[22:45] <ShinyObjects1> ActionParsnip: no other clients were able to connect to the Exchange server, no
[22:45] <designbybeck> I was able to VPN into my work network from home, but how do I connect to my office computer
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> ShinyObjects1: oh then thats the issue,
[22:45] <ShinyObjects1> Every client I found was either inactive for years or super buggy/crashy/memory leaky
[22:45] <designbybeck> both home and office run Ubuntu 12.10
[22:45] <Honvai> Is there such a code in which this all gets better?
[22:45] <bekks> designbybeck: ssh.
[22:45] <michealPW> I've installed the latest fglrx (Proprietary ATI) drivers and doing fglrxinfo tells me everything was installed fine ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/1363759/ ) and my Xorg log is fine ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/1363762/ ) as well as dmesg ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/1363763/ ) yet when I open Details, it shows under Graphics: "VESA: SUMO"
[22:46] <bekks> Honvai: No.
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> Honvai: doubt it
[22:46] <designbybeck> bekks:  YOU AGAIN!... haven't you had enough of me already! :P
[22:46] <michealPW> Any ideas what's going on, or am I just interpreting what "Details" is saying wrong? Thx
[22:46] <bekks> designbybeck: ;)
[22:46] <designbybeck> bekks:  so once I VPN to the network? just ssh to the computer name?
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: can you ping it's IP?
[22:46] <bekks> designbybeck: I'd use the IP rather than the name.
[22:47] <designbybeck> not sure what the IP address would be. it is dynamicDHCP
[22:47] <ShinyObjects1> ActionParsnip: Also neither evolution nor thunderbird supported the Exchange server's calendars and notifications.
[22:47] <designbybeck> so wouldn't that change ActionParsnip
[22:47] <bekks> designbybeck: Well, you have to know the IP :)
[22:47] <ShinyObjects1> It's a bummer :\
[22:47] <brophat> there is package that I downloaded but never installed and now everytime there is a kernel update it attempts to install that package and says there was an error attempting to install it.
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> ShinyObjects1: seems like the issue is a poor choice of mail server :)
[22:47] <bekks> ActionParsnip++
[22:47] <designbybeck> i got the ip from ifconfig bekks and ActionParsnip
[22:48] <brophat> I want to get rid of what I downloaded so that does not happen with every kernel update
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: not hugely, You may be able to ping the name, depends how the VPN is confgures
[22:48] <ShinyObjects1> Heh, I'll say, ActionParsnip. I wish the choice was mine, but when you're the new guy in a 100+ person organization you don't have the clout to decide :\
[22:48] <Evil_Eric> why not use synaptic package manager to lock the file out so the updates will stop trying to install it
[22:48] <bekks> designbybeck: You need the IP of the computer you want to connect to. Not your own.
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> designbybeckas long as it is in a different netmask to your home network, you can connect
[22:48] <designbybeck> ok I was able to VPN so I know I got into the network at least
[22:48] <bulletrulz> lol
 Are you trying to be stupid or does it just come natural?
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 um preety damn stupid why?
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[22:48] <FloodBot1> bulletrulz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:48] <designbybeck> bekks: this is the computer I want to connect to when I go hom
[22:48] <designbybeck> home
[22:48] <ShinyObjects1> So if you're stuck with Exchange and Outlook, at least you can get notifications on your desktop :)
[22:48] <bulletrulz> fuck u flootbot
[22:48] <brophat> where do packages get downloaded to?
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: so if your VPN adapter has a 192.168.0.x address and your home network uses the same, it won't work
[22:49] <DJones> bulletrulz: No need for swearing
[22:49] <designbybeck> no I don't think that is the case ActionParsnip
[22:49] <designbybeck> I mean they are differnet addresses
[22:49] <Honvai> Install ubuntu Internal Storage
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: you may need to change the subnet of your home network to accommodate
[22:49] <designbybeck> but ActionParsnip and bekks, do I have to have my Work Ubuntu set to share? or something?
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: thats cool then
[22:50] <bekks> designbybeck: ssh is basically you need, so be sure to have a working openssh server on your box.
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: well, how do you want to access it, and to achieve what?
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: surely everything you access is on a server?
[22:50] <designbybeck> ActionParsnip: I would like to view the desktop and interact with it
[22:51] <bekks> designbybeck: Then take a look into nxserver/nxclient.
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: yes, but to achieve what?
[22:51] <brophat> ActionParsnip help me out with my question
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: what are you going to do on the desktop?
[22:51] <designbybeck> ActionParsnip: bekks:  bekks has been helping with a VM. I'm trying to make my own distro and want to keep working on it from home, but not take all these files
[22:52] <bekks> designbybeck: All these files? Export the vm as .ova, done :)
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> brophat: uninstall the package
[22:52] <designbybeck> hmmm
[22:52] <designbybeck> bekks:  then that would be a 20gb file i have to cart around?
[22:53] <bekks> designbybeck: No, it will be compressed.
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: if you install openssh-server on the desktop, you can access the files using nautilus/terminal. You don't need the desktop for that
[22:53] <designbybeck> I was hoping to see the desktop so I could just keep things open ActionParsnip, does it not work like that
[22:53] <designbybeck> To remote into?
[22:53] <LLStarks> how do i reset gnome? my g-c-c settings won't unlock unless i use gksu. can't change themes or make my clock am/pm.
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: or, just ssh to the systemand do things in terminal there....
[22:53] <michealPW> On Ubuntu, the "Details" program shows "Graphics: VESA: SUMO" is this a problem? I've properly installed fglrx v9.0 from AMD/ATI.
[22:53] <ShinyObjects1> designbybeck NX is a great snappy way to remote desktop
[22:53] <michealPW> Sorry, Ubuntu 12.04.1
[22:54] <bekks> designbybeck: If you want your desktop, take a look into nxclient/nxserver.
[22:54] <designbybeck> Thank you ShinyObjects1
[22:54] <bulletrulz> sorry i posted in the wrong channel
[22:54] <ShinyObjects1> designbybeck If you install freeNX (you can get it at nomachine.org) it'll be accessible over the SSH port
[22:54] <designbybeck> i've never heard of it bekks i'll go hunt it down
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> michealPW: what ATi GPU do you use?
[22:54] <ShinyObjects1> designbybeck I'd recommend you use their older 3.x branch rather than the new 4.x
[22:54] <ShinyObjects1> designbybeck The link is buried but it's worth it - faster.
[22:54] <michealPW> ActionParsnip: I'm using The HD 6550D, it's built-in to my AMD A8
[22:55] <designbybeck> ShinyObjects1:  so just the 3.5v NX Free Edition for Linux ?
[22:55] <ShinyObjects1> Yep designbybeck.  And that's the same thing that bekks was recommending
[22:55] <designbybeck> Client Node Server ?
[22:55] <designbybeck> which has to be server?
[22:56] <ShinyObjects1> Your work machine should install node and server
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> michaelni: should be ok with the proprietary driver
[22:56] <ShinyObjects1> Your machine at home should install client
[22:56] <designbybeck> great! Trying it now! Thanks ShinyObjects1 ActionParsnip bekks !!
[22:56] <designbybeck> IT IS TIME FOR A DRINK!
[22:56] <brophat> ActionParsnip it was never installed
[22:57] <ShinyObjects1> designbybeck one important trick - if you want to be able to login using your unix user/pass edit /usr/NX/etc/server.cfg and make sure "EnableUserDB" and "EnablePassDB" are both 0
[22:57] <michealPW> ActionParsnip: Ah, okay. fglrxinfo and glxinfo all seem to say everything is installed and working fine but it's just this gnome-shell details utility said VESA: SUMO so I wasn't sure if it should say fglrx or AMD or something :\
[22:57] <michealPW> Or maybe does it always say that, maybe that utility is just broken?
[22:57] <bekks> ShinyObjects1: Thats not needed, actually. :)
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> michealPW: does:   sudo lshw -C display    show something different
[22:58] <ShinyObjects1> designbybeck congrats, you can now access your machine via shell, remote desktop, and file sharing  over a secure, encrypted connection all on the same port :)
[22:58] <ShinyObjects1> It isn't, bekks? I thought it was...
[22:58] <bekks> ShinyObjects1: It never was, for me.
[22:58] <Honvai> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66S8is1E9MI&feature=related
[22:59] <ShinyObjects1> Weird. I first used it back in like... 2005 though. Perhaps it was back then?
[22:59] <bekks> ShinyObjects1: Thats possible.
[22:59] <ShinyObjects1> I was pretty new to the whole Linux world then though, so I could have just gotten it wrong
[22:59] <michealPW> ActionParsnip: Here's what lshw says: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1363794/
[22:59] <michealPW> It seems to be fine, too
[22:59] <michealPW> Everything's properly reporting the ATI chip, although that 33mhz is WAY off (More like 650mhz hehe)
[23:01] <michealPW> Want me to make a screenshot? Can I put a TinyPic link in here?
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> michealPW: yes, tinypic is great
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> michealPW: or imageshack etc
[23:03] <brophat> ActionParsnip ok found the package how do i remove it?
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> brophat: sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename
[23:04] <brophat> ActionParsnip thanks. Ubuntu should make a poster with all the commands on it that we can put on our wall
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> brophat: there are so many its not really feasible.
[23:04] <designbybeck> ShinyObjects1: http://www.pasteall.org/37290
[23:04] <dougl> is it dpkg -i packagename.deb?
[23:05] <brophat> ActionParsnip ok make two posters
[23:05] <designbybeck> ShinyObjects1:  i installed 'sudo apt-get install ssh'
[23:05] <bekks> designbybeck: You need the openssh server.
[23:05] <DaemonicApathy> brophat: http://fosswire.com/post/2008/04/ubuntu-cheat-sheet/
[23:05] <designbybeck> bekks:  i tried sudo apt-get install openssh
[23:05] <brophat> DeomonicApathy thanks
[23:05] <michealPW> Sorry
[23:05] <designbybeck> and it didn't like that
[23:06] <michealPW> Took me forever to find Crop in GIMP (rofl)
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> !manual | brophat
[23:06] <bekks> designbybeck: "it idnt like that" - is it what you felt your computer may thought? :)
[23:06] <designbybeck> ha
[23:06] <designbybeck> yeah!
[23:06] <michealPW> Here's what's got me confused: http://i46.tinypic.com/10giu6x.png
[23:06] <designbybeck> how do I install openssh?
[23:07] <designbybeck> I might just wait until monday!
[23:07] <bekks> designbybeck: By telling us what your computer "didnt like" with apt-get install openssh
[23:07] <designbybeck> oh
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[23:07] <designbybeck> E: Unable to locate package openssh
[23:07] <designbybeck> bekks
[23:08] <designbybeck> ah yes that was it ActionParsnip and looks like i alraedy had it
[23:08] <michealPW> designbybeck: Also, don't forget apt-cache search openssh
[23:08] <michealPW> That would have found openssh-server package I think ;)
[23:08] <bekks> designbybeck: Maybe because it is named "openssh-server" :)
[23:08] <n0sq> or sudo aptitude search openssh
[23:09] <bekks> n0sq: You dont need sudo for searching. And aptitude is deprecated and discouraged.
[23:09] <designbybeck> you guys are making my brain hurt on a friday at 5pm!
[23:09] <michealPW> Maybe I should install aptitude, hehe
[23:09] <n0sq> bekks: first i've heard of that
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> !aptitude | michealPW
[23:09] <n0sq> works fine for me
[23:10] <designbybeck> ShinyObjects1:  do I have to start the process?
[23:10] <designbybeck> ShinyObjects1: sudo /usr/NX/bin/nxserver --start
[23:10] <ShinyObjects1> hey designbybeck - sorry I was afk. I'm back
[23:10] <designbybeck> I get that error http://www.pasteall.org/37290
[23:10] <ShinyObjects1> actually designbybeck you just do "service nxserver start"
[23:11] <michealPW> ActionParsnip: http://i46.tinypic.com/10giu6x.png
[23:11] <designbybeck> ShinyObjects1:  i got that same error
[23:11] <michealPW> ActionParsnip: Is that normal? The "VESA: SUMO" ?
[23:11] <designbybeck> ShinyObjects1:  my SSH not configured correctly?
[23:11] <ShinyObjects1> Not sure, designbybeck
[23:12] <ShinyObjects1> Try to ssh into your own machine
[23:12] <ShinyObjects1> ssh localhost
[23:12] <ShinyObjects1> see what that does
[23:12] <WeThePeople> how do i get this to connect to something>>> http://imgh.us/desktop_3.png
[23:14] <gordonjcp> I wish the global menu bug was fixed
[23:14] <michealPW> Which?
[23:14] <WeThePeople> the wireless device
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: nice choice of guake ;)
[23:17] <WeThePeople> thanks, i kow you like it to :)
[23:17] <WeThePeople> know8
[23:18]  * ShinyObjects1 high-fives ActionParsnip and WeThePeople
[23:18] <michealPW> I like the way your desktop looks, WeThePeople :)
[23:18] <ShinyObjects1> <3 guake
[23:19] <WeThePeople> thanks
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> ShinyObjects1: learnt something about it today, in the appearance tab, you can drag the colours from the palette to the thing you want
[23:20] <ShinyObjects1> That's spiffy!
[23:20] <MarcPlusTwo> Good Morning
[23:21] <dougl> is the syntax...
[23:21] <dougl> is it dpkg -i packagename.deb?
[23:21] <michealPW> Yea
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> dougl: yes
[23:21] <dougl> thanks ActionParsnip :)
[23:21] <michealPW> You can use wildcard, too like dpkg -i ./*.deb
[23:24] <michealPW> Thanks for your time, ActionParsnip :)
[23:24] <arunkumar413> how to know all the ip addresses like gateway address, netmask, ip address etc
[23:25] <michealPW> arunkumar413: For gateway use route
[23:25] <michealPW> Actually, just use route haha it'll give you all that info :P
[23:25] <emrichey0409> I am stuck at a grub> prompt....anyone help me with this? Psl.
[23:25] <diverdude> Hey...i have used gparted to format my usb-drive to ext4. However for some reason its not being mounted when inserted in the machine. dmesg gives me this: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/477266039 What am I missing?
[23:25] <michealPW> arunkumar413: There's also ifconfig which has a lot of useful info, but I think route is what you're looking for :P
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> emrichey0409: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[23:26] <chris_> hi
[23:27] <michealPW> Nixie is awesome
[23:28] <mag]]> join #bash
[23:28] <mag]]> woops
[23:28] <larvan> I am on 12.04 LTS and I have python-pyinotify 0.9.2 installed from official repos. I had to manually replace the actual python file with the lastest version and I would like to know if there is a way to stop apt from updating it until 0.9.4 is available. any ideas?
[23:28] <chris_> is there anyone how can run the apparmor-tool aa-logprof under ubuntu 12.04 without errors?
[23:28] <arunkumar413> michealPW: ok, now how find the netmask, broadcast, network address
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> michealPW: her voice grates on my nerves
[23:30] <michealPW> arunkumar413: Well, also check ifconfig
[23:30] <diverdude> Hey...i have used gparted to format my usb-drive to ext4. However for some reason its not being mounted when inserted in the machine. dmesg gives me this: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/477266039 What am I missing?
[23:30] <arunkumar413> michealPW: ifconfig not giving all the information
[23:30] <mcphail> Hi everyone. Has anyone produced an alternate install CD/DVD for 12.10? I have trouble booting the live CD on this machine and cannot install.
[23:31] <michealPW> I'm not sure about "broadcast", networking isn't really my thing. Network address (192.168.1.1, for example?) and netmask are all in route though
[23:31] <michealPW> ifconfig shows me my internet address but it's in ipv6 format LOL
[23:32] <bjrohan> For some reason the audio on my 12.10 system is garbled.  When this happened before in 12.04, it had to do with conflicting drivers. How can I check this to solve it?
[23:32] <michealPW> arunkumar413: In my ifconfig, the second line is this: inet addr:192.168.1.101  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[23:32] <michealPW> Bcast is broadcast, I'm guessing? Is that what you're looking for no?
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> bjrohan: a good start is:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    wait 10 seconds and reboot
[23:33] <bjrohan> ActionParsnip: If I don't kill, but reboot, would I possibly have the same problem?
[23:34] <bjrohan> ActionParsnip: In other words does rebooting alone not solve my possible issue?
[23:34] <michealPW> bjrohan: It's the rm command, removing your config. Yes without those commands you'll have the same problem.
[23:34] <di3bis> Hi all, I have two OS on my computer, Window 7 and Ubuntu 12.04, the computer get stuck when booting the Ubuntu, how can repair ??? Thanks !
[23:35] <michealPW> bjrohan: The rm command removes your configuration for PulseAudio, restarting will have Pulse start again, notice no config file and make a new one for you ( This is probably what will fix the problem or at least will be a good start, as ActionParsnip said :P )
[23:35] <bjrohan> ActionParsnip: Thanks. I am encoding a video, when done I will give it a try
[23:35] <di3bis> Hi all, I have two OS on my computer, Window 7 and Ubuntu 12.04, the computer get stuck when booting the Ubuntu, how can repair ??? Thanks !
[23:36] <michealPW> di3bis: You don't have to repeat yourself. Someone will reply with an answer once somebody's available :P
[23:36] <michealPW> di3bis: What other info can you provide, by the way? What exactly is happening when you try to start Ubuntu.
[23:37] <di3bis> i recenty upgraded to 12.04
[23:37] <di3bis> last week
[23:37] <michealPW> What version did you upgrade from?
[23:37] <di3bis> it loads the "Ubunto logo" then get to black screen
[23:37] <michealPW> Ah, the black screen is it asking you to log-in?
[23:38] <di3bis> Not sure what version i had before :(
[23:38] <ShinyObjects1> My favorite thing about Linux: it's just so pretty! -- http://imgur.com/p3Fh7 <-- pretty high res, so expect a big picture. (~2MB)
[23:38] <michealPW> It's alright. So is this a seperate computer you're using right now or have you just started Windows from the same c omputer?
[23:38] <di3bis> it doesn't ask anything
[23:38] <di3bis> just black screen
[23:39] <di3bis> some times it stuck also on the Loading Logo
[23:39] <michealPW> Oh, hrmm
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> di3bis: what video chip do you use?
[23:41] <michealPW> ShinyObjects1: That's a really nice resolution :P
[23:41] <michealPW> I wish I could pull that off :(
[23:41] <wjtaylor> seriously... how do I get the nice pretty gnome 3 on ubuntu 12.04? gnome shell just installs what looks like gnome 2.
[23:41]  * ShinyObjects1 is spoiled
[23:41] <di3bis> i use Invidia
[23:41] <ShinyObjects1> That's my work machine - at home I don't have near that
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> wjtaylor: gnome3 is default in Precise
[23:41] <di3bis> let me check what type of it
[23:41] <michealPW> I've got a 22 inch monitor, only seems to go to 1680x1050  :(
[23:42] <ShinyObjects1> wjtaylor: I have yet to find a really good looking gtk3 theme :(
[23:42] <ShinyObjects1> Yeah michaelPW my monitor at home is 23" at 1680x1050
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> ShinyObjects1: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/QuantalDesktop.png    simple times :)
[23:42] <michealPW> wjtaylor: Have you tried sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment
[23:43] <designbybeck> ActionParsnip: bekks ShinyObjects1 guess what!... I ssh'd into my work ssytem from home!
[23:43] <designbybeck> through VPN
[23:43] <wjtaylor> ActionParsnip: Looks like unity is the default.
[23:43] <michealPW> wjtaylor: That should add an option to lightDM for when you log-in called "Gnome", which is the full-blown GNOME 3 DE.
[23:43] <designbybeck> Also I have an adult beverage in hand
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> ShinyObjects1: or in raring: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/raring.png
[23:43] <ShinyObjects1> Here at work I've got a couple 23" monitors at 1920x1080
[23:43] <michealPW> wjtaylor: He/She means Unity is in fact running ontop of Gnome-Shell.
[23:43] <designbybeck> ShinyObjects1:  I don't think I got NX setup correctly though
[23:43] <LyzardKing> is it possible to know anything on the wayland support in ubuntu?
[23:43] <di3bis> I use NVIDIA GEFore 9800 GTX
[23:43] <wjtaylor> michaelPW: I will now. thx
[23:43] <michealPW> wjtaylor: So "technically" Gnome3 is always tehre by default :P
[23:43] <ShinyObjects1> designbybeck awesome!
[23:43] <ShinyObjects1> designbybeck I found this while you were gone http://readlist.com/lists/kde.org/freenx-knx/0/2581.html
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> di3bis: uninstall the proprietary driver, reboot then install it again
[23:44] <designbybeck> looking now ShinyObjects1
[23:44] <michealPW> Shiny: Ah, I thought that screenshot was like ~3000x~2000 LOL
[23:44] <michealPW> Seemed crazy big. Makes me jealous :(
[23:44] <michealPW> Oh wait, I get it..
 - I can't log into Ubunto , i don't even have safe mood option
[23:45] <michealPW> It's 2 monitors, duh.. I'm such an idiot LOL don't mind me :(
[23:45] <ShinyObjects1> Nice choice in movies, ActionParsnip
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> ShinyObjects1: well, comedy series. But yeah :)
[23:45] <TheCrittaC> Hello, I have an issue with my sound card (it uses the snd-ice1724 module)
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> di3bis: hold SHIFT at boot, select recovery mode, select root
[23:45] <ShinyObjects1> ActionParsnip: have you ever messed with xwinwrap?
[23:45] <TheCrittaC> It's detected by the OS and shows up in 'aplay -l', but I cannot get sound out of it.
[23:46] <TheCrittaC> The /dev/dsp device also does not exist.
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> ShinyObjects1: a little, kills my cpu pretty well if you run a video with it
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> ShinyObjects1: and so forth. I don't have much power, hence openbox :)
[23:46] <ShinyObjects1> :) Yeah, I run the GLMatrix screen saver as my left monitor''s desktop
[23:46] <michealPW> haha
[23:46] <ShinyObjects1> ActionParsnip: totally understand. That's what I run on my netbook
[23:46] <michealPW> Nice
 - will SHIFT work even if i have this question to load Window7 or Ubuntu ?
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> ShinyObjects1: openbox + xcompmgr + docky or plank
[23:47] <ShinyObjects1> Yeah michaelPW - it's really fun because there are only 2 others running Linux at my company
[23:47] <michealPW> Linus advocates ~2000 pixel standard resolution :|
[23:47] <ShinyObjects1> So when people walk by and see my screen they're awestruck
[23:47] <WeThePeople> what does a kernel upgrade mean??
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> di3bis: if you used junky wubi, then hold it after that I guess
[23:47] <bekks> WeThePeople: The same thing as on gentoo - installing a new kernel.
[23:47] <michealPW> I was reading a Google+ post he made about it. Meh he makes a good argument but where are these monitors that can do it? Or maybe that's his point, haha :|
[23:47] <ShinyObjects1> They always say "THAT is Linux?!? I thought  it was all ... text mode screens and stuff."
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: you are getting a new kernel. You need to reboot to load the new kernel
[23:48] <michealPW> Ksplice!~
[23:48] <michealPW> (muscle)
[23:48] <WeThePeople> bekks, like upgrade to 10.10 from 10.04??
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> ShinyObjects1: oh yea, especially from those who say they are 'good with computers'
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> ShinyObjects1: when really they are 'good at running setup.exe'
[23:48] <bekks> WeThePeople: Thats an Ubuntu release update. Kernel updates mean something like 3.6.2 -> 3.6.3
[23:48] <WeThePeople> ok
[23:48] <michealPW> haha ShinyObjects1 yea I get that too heehee!
 -- thanks guys , i'll give it a try
[23:49] <ShinyObjects1> Exactly ActionParsnip. It really surprises them to see me running all their Windows programs alongside my better looking Linux programs
[23:49] <michealPW> hehe ShinyObjects1 everyone's blown away with the XBox controller hooked to my Fedora machine haha
[23:49] <michealPW> My kids use to play games on.
[23:50] <michealPW> "That's linux??" heehee!
[23:50] <ShinyObjects1> Haha. Nice. Yeah they're pretty impressed when I plug stuff into my machine and it just works (webcams, etc)
[23:50] <ShinyObjects1> They try to hand me the CD that came with it and I say "don't need it. Thanks!"
[23:50] <michealPW> Yea, linux handles serial so brilliantly
[23:50] <wjtaylor> michaelPM: does it matter which display manager I use? lightdm or gdm?
[23:51] <michealPW> It took my wife hours to get some LeapFrog thing working on Windows, I just plugged it into Linux and used it like it was a Usb thumb-drive (rofl)
[23:51] <michealPW> ~2 minutes it was ready :P
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> ShinyObjects1: to be honest it's not much different, people we just Windows blind :)
[23:51] <michealPW> wjtaylor: No, that's personal preference mate. I personally prefer LightDM 'cause it's lightweight and desktop-agnostic... It doesn't care what desktop you use. GDM will partially load GNOME, though...
[23:52] <michealPW> Even before you select gnome and log-in, I mean, GDM itself pulls a tonne of gnome stuff into memory. LightDM's like ~5k lines of code to GDM's ~50k lines :P
[23:53] <ShinyObjects1> I wish lightDM had more themes available though. GDM's got a ton.
[23:53] <michealPW> True..
[23:53] <michealPW> Although lightDM has different greeters
[23:53] <michealPW> Like if you start it with the kde greeter it looks totaly different from the unity greeter hehe, different themes avail. for it too (Weird)
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> ShinyObjects1: why care, it's hardly on the screen, if at all
[23:53] <wjtaylor> michaelPW: great. thx. Just out of curiosity, do you know how to bring back the missing menus in the gnome fallback session? System menu that is...
[23:53] <diverdude> Hey...i have used gparted to format my usb-drive to ext4. However for some reason its not being mounted when inserted in the machine. dmesg gives me this: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/477266039 What am I missing?
[23:54] <designbybeck> ShinyObjects1: IT WORKED!!!! I logged into my desktop at work from home!!! Awesome! Thanks guys!
[23:54] <michealPW> wjtaylor: Sorry no, I'm not familiar at all with gnome fallback session (I'm not even sure what it technically is LOL)
[23:54] <michealPW> hehe designbybeck. ssh is the coolest thing ever! :)
[23:54]  * ShinyObjects1 high fives designbybeck
[23:54] <designbybeck> michealPW:  this was with NoMachine! I'd never even heard of it!
[23:55] <michealPW> I haven't, either. Kudos, mate! :)
[23:55] <ShinyObjects1> Good job man :) Just so you know NX is really fast most of the time. If you find it sluggish try tweaking the settings
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> ShinyObjects1: if you want to go the whole hog: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/3d-lightdm-login-window-pretty-slick
[23:55] <ShinyObjects1> designbybeck - I first used NX because VMWare Server's remote desktop was so slow... I'd NX in to the machine and run VMWare Server's  remote display and connect it to itsself...
[23:55] <ShinyObjects1> through NX it was way faster
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> ShinyObjects1: essentially....pointless
[23:56] <designbybeck> ShinyObjects1:  I did have to use NM4 because 3.5 didn't met dependencies
[23:56] <ShinyObjects1> ActionParsnip: Not for everyone. Back when I was in college I'd log in and out of my laptop all the time
[23:56] <ShinyObjects1> Probably 15-20 times a day
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> ShinyObjects1: its still pretty pointless imho
[23:57] <bjrohan> ActionParsnip: Killing and removing the config seems to have worked so far. What would have junked up the pulse config file
[23:57] <michealPW> bjrohan: Gamma rays from the sun?
[23:57] <ShinyObjects1> There's something to be said for aesthetics, ActionParsnip It has an unquantifiable value
[23:57] <bjrohan> Prolly
[23:58] <michealPW> Aesthetics really is important.. Also customizability. One of the first things my grandmother, mom and even wife does is try to change their background, themes etc. and they like to browse through them all... :\
[23:58] <michealPW> Just saying, is all..
[23:58] <michealPW> :)
[23:58] <thanigaivel> how auto run (sudo hostapd hostapd.conf) command after insert my wifi adoptor. please help me
[23:58] <ShinyObjects1> Hahahah ActionParsnip that link is hilarious!!
[23:58] <ShinyObjects1> I love it!
[23:58] <michealPW> Even though it's not useful, they get upset when they can't do that ( As they see it as so basic :P )
[23:59] <diverdude> anyone?
[23:59] <blackshirt> hello,good morning
[23:59] <michealPW> Hello, good evening :)
[23:59] <blackshirt> :d
[23:59] <chris_33> Hello. I need some help please. I'm new to linux. I just installed skype and its sais it's running, but i cant find it. How do i find "running applications" in linux?