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magnusluHi. I've downloaded the 12.10 Edubuntu DVD 64bit ISO. I have configured grub to boot from ISO. I reach the login screen. What's the login and password? I tried ubuntu and edubuntu with no password, but they were not accepted.04:42
magnusluBtw... I did the same with Ubuntu Studio with the same issue.04:43
alkisgBooting from the CD prompts you for a password? It shouldn't, it should autologin instead04:50
magnusluI boot from ISO on the HDD, if that makes any difference04:50
alkisgI'm guessing that it shouldn't04:51
alkisgThe only 2 reasons I can think of are:04:51
alkisg1) blame the "booting from .iso on hd", or, more possibly,04:51
alkisg2) that the session crashes and you get logged out04:52
alkisgOne reason to get a session crash could be incompatible xorg drivers, e.g. with no 3d support04:52
magnusluIn the Grub Customizer, by default the following kernel params are set:04:52
magnuslubootkbd=us console-setup/layoutcode=us user-setup/encrypt-home=true noeject --04:52
magnusluI don't think they are to blame though...04:52
alkisgmagnuslu: press alt+ctrl+f1 to see the ubuntu@pc prompt, and then `cat /proc/cmdline`04:53
magnusluOK. I'll try that.04:53
alkisgmagnuslu: also, what graphics card?04:54
alkisg`lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA` will tell you in detail...04:54
magnusluNote that Ubuntu 12.10 and XBMCbuntu work fine on the same workstation04:55
alkisgmagnuslu: from grub?04:55
alkisg*grub + iso, I mean04:55
magnusluNo. Grub + 'normal' installation04:56
magnusluIntel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0102] (rev 09) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:844d] Kernel driver in use: i91504:56
alkisgOK intel shouldn't have any problems running 3d desktop environments04:56
alkisgSo yeah check the command line04:56
magnusluWill reboot then... I'm now on my 'standard' Ubuntu04:56
magnusluthx for the tip04:56
alkisgmagnuslu: moment04:57
alkisgAlso check /var/log/Xorg* log for errors, and the ubuntu user home dir for ~/.xsession-errors04:57
alkisg(i.e. alt+ctrl+f1, cat .xsession-errors)04:57
alkisgThe easiest way to see if #1 or #2 is to blame though could be burning the .iso04:58
magnusluok05:00
magnusluI'll try to check the logs first, if that fails, I'll burn the ISO on DVD and try that way05:01
alkisgIf it works with the dvd, put the cmdline to grub05:01
alkisgE.g. some code might break if it doesn't see vt_handoff in the cmdline, dunno05:01
magnuslu@alkisg07:42
magnusluI resolved my booting from ISO image on HDD via GRUB issue. I had to add 'boot=casper' to the kernel params. This was not set by default by the Grub Customizer, but I found some samples that showed this, so now it works (as does Ubuntu Studio ISO booting).07:44
magnusluNow I'm looking at making them persistent as well, then I'm done. I so look forward to having plenty of distros available without excessive installation/partitioning through ISOs!07:45
alkisgmagnuslu: persistent? do you mean for them to be able to save updates etc like normal installations?07:50
magnusluYes07:50
alkisgErr I don't think that plan is worth the trouble07:50
magnusluhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence07:51
alkisgAfter a few updates you won't be using anything from the original .iso anyway07:51
magnusluI wouldn't upgrade the Ubuntu version, most likely, but I might want to add a couple of packages. After all I'll have the Edubuntu ISO dedicated to my daughter, and Ubuntu Studio for my fun with Video/Photo/Graphics... All other activities would still be on my 'standard' Ubuntu installation.07:52
alkisgThe updates from 12.04.1 currently are 300+ MB in deb form07:53
alkisgSo the .iso + the casper-rw file would exceed the size of e.g. a compressed btrfs loopback installation07:54
magnusluActually, it's mainly to be able to save preferences in the applications that I have. Not really for massive upgrades.07:55
magnusluWithout persistence it's like starting from scratch at every boot.07:55
alkisgYou could just reuse your existing /home dir for user preferences07:56
magnusluAny link to how to do that?07:56
alkisgI don't have any links handy, no. Anyways, /me gets afk to do some work...07:57
magnusluok thx07:57
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