| ScottK | We do do a few things different to integrate into the Ubuntu echosystem, but not a lot. | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| LyzardKing | Yes, it's perfect! I'm starting to develop somewhat serious programs(I hope) mainly in python and qt, so this is great to know | 00:00 |
| ScottK | Welcome. | 00:01 |
| ScottK | I do most of the packaging of PyQt and PyKDE for both Debian and Ubuntu. | 00:01 |
| ScottK | I'm also one of the Debian/Ubuntu Python maintainers. | 00:01 |
| LyzardKing | really? that's wonderful. I'll keep you in mind if I need support then, if it's no too much trouble. | 00:02 |
| LyzardKing | at the moment I'm starting to learn pyqt to port a ui from tkinter to qt. | 00:03 |
| ScottK | You can always ask. I can't promise to always answer. | 00:03 |
| LyzardKing | yes I figured | 00:03 |
| ScottK | Also there are several people here whov'e done PyQt/PyKDE. | 00:03 |
| LyzardKing | yes. thank you fo r the support! | 00:05 |
| Riddell | ScottK: there was someone in #kde-devel the other day who said he worked on pykde which is good to know it's still got maintainance | 00:06 |
| Riddell | don't remember the name just now | 00:06 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Excellent. | 00:06 |
| shadeslayer | did someone start uploading kde 4.10 to ninjas? | 01:02 |
| ScottK | Not AFAIK. | 01:03 |
| yofel | Riddell: did you? | 01:06 |
| Riddell | yofel: nope | 01:10 |
| Riddell | I ran the script but it wasn't successful | 01:11 |
| Riddell | so feel free to do it | 01:11 |
| yofel | did the script error out? or just too many packages that have to be fixed by hand? | 01:12 |
| Riddell | it errored out on new packages that I forgot to remove from the package list | 01:14 |
| Riddell | and it gave a version number of -0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.10~ppa1 | 01:15 |
| Riddell | where 12.10 is not right | 01:15 |
| yofel | did you run it with -d quantal? | 01:17 |
| shadeslayer | I was thinking of uploading just kde4libs tonight | 01:18 |
| yofel | go ahead | 01:18 |
| shadeslayer | will do | 01:19 |
| yofel | I'm too tired to do much right now, and it seems the script needs some more fixing | 01:19 |
| shadeslayer | Found on github : "An SSH2 client module written in pure JavaScript for node.js." | 01:20 |
| ScottK | Oh dear. | 01:20 |
| * ScottK wonders if you can use it for evil? | 01:20 | |
| shadeslayer | javascript all the things | 01:20 |
| shadeslayer | https://github.com/mscdex/ssh2 | 01:20 |
| Riddell | yofel: no -d raring -y 13.04 | 01:21 |
| ScottK | Unfortunately a substantial fraction of open source JS is actually non-free. | 01:21 |
| shadeslayer | that's .... news to me | 01:21 |
| Riddell | like owncloud shipping .min.js files, stopping me from backporting it, grr | 01:22 |
| ScottK | Although since that doesn't need anything other than node.js, so it's not inherently non-free. | 01:22 |
| ScottK | Just depends on an anti-social upstream in that case. | 01:23 |
| shadeslayer | hmm, there seem to be 2 python patches that don't apply cleanly to the kdelibs tarball | 01:50 |
| shadeslayer | python3-support-bytecode.patch and findpythonlibrary_layout_deb_on_debian.diff | 01:51 |
| shadeslayer | someone willing to rewrite those? :P | 01:51 |
| yofel | didn't the bytecode one get accepted upstream? | 01:51 |
| yofel | or at least in a similiar fashion | 01:51 |
| shadeslayer | I don't know, haven't looked | 01:52 |
| shadeslayer | if upstream accepted it and it works better, I could just drop it | 01:52 |
| shadeslayer | an even fun thing is that this : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs/view/head:/debian/patches/kubuntu-mobile-07-serviceAvailabilityChanged-bool-signal.diff : seems to have been accepted, but the other patches in the series apply cleanly | 01:54 |
| shadeslayer | i.e. kubuntu-mobile-01,02....06 | 01:55 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: there seems to be a commit that says : Respect PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE environmental variable. | 02:24 |
| shadeslayer | commit id is 352ceb824ab7b6425bbb470d2231f76704fc3a10 | 02:24 |
| yofel | I remember seeing something on some ML about that, but that's all I know really | 02:24 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 02:25 |
| shadeslayer | the patches are the same | 02:31 |
| shadeslayer | the python path patch also could be dropped | 02:35 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: ^ A bit of advice needed | 02:35 |
| shadeslayer | this is what they use to set the PYTHON_SITE_PACKAGES_DIR var : execute_process(COMMAND ${PYTHON_EXECUTABLE} -c "from distutils.sysconfig import get_python_lib; print(get_python_lib(True))" OUTPUT_VARIABLE PYTHON_SITE_PACKAGES_DIR OUTPUT_STRIP_TRAILING_WHITESPACE) | 02:36 |
| shadeslayer | running that python script in the interpreter gives me : /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages | 02:36 |
| * shadeslayer prays to the python gods that he didn't screw something up | 02:43 | |
| shadeslayer | just to make sure, I need to export DEBBUILDOPTS to some value to parallelize building right? | 02:48 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: you can remove the mobile patches, there's new patches for plasma active 3 but I think we concluded that would want a second build of kdelibs so a job for another day | 03:35 |
| shadeslayer | mmmm | 03:36 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: should I just go ahead and drop the patches altogether or is there something else to be done as well? | 03:39 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: drop tem | 03:53 |
| shadeslayer | oh hah | 03:55 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: patches don't exist in the series file | 03:55 |
| shadeslayer | just lefovers I guess | 03:55 |
| shadeslayer | package uploaded | 04:00 |
| shadeslayer | there were a couple of symbol updates that I didn't catch though, so it might fail | 04:00 |
| shadeslayer | ok, I'm off to sleep, could someone update the symbols if the build fails? | 04:08 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: If we were porting kpythonpluginfactory to python3, how would we test it? I think we need some kind of trivial implementationt to try it against. | 04:08 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: this is a minimal KCModule implementation in python3: https://code.launchpad.net/~echidnaman/+junk/kde-config-drivers | 04:11 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: I knew there was a reason I was asking you ... | 04:13 |
| JontheEchidna | ;-) | 04:13 |
| JontheEchidna | w/ python2 it looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/6ytUS.png | 04:14 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 04:16 |
| JontheEchidna | (and all the files used compile to bytecode with python3) | 04:16 |
| ScottK | Shouldn't have gotten worse with 3.3. | 04:16 |
| JontheEchidna | s/files used/files being used/ | 04:17 |
| kubotu | JontheEchidna meant: "(and all the files being used compile to bytecode with python3)" | 04:17 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:17 |
| mrlukeparry | Hi all, I am wanting to test kdevelop 4.4.1 package from their ppa (mainly because the 12.10 release is so buggy), but I have no idea how to install the packages they've created | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | mrlukeparry: who's ppa? | 14:04 |
| mrlukeparry | let me find it | 14:04 |
| mrlukeparry | it's incorrect for me to say ppa, but their launch page | 14:05 |
| mrlukeparry | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdevelop | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | !proposed | 14:05 |
| ubottu | The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | why that is useles | 14:06 |
| mrlukeparry | what does that mean? | 14:07 |
| mrlukeparry | can I use ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging it appears to be in here? | 14:07 |
| apachelogger | mrlukeparry: as per bug 1067611 we are trying to push 4.4.1 into regular 12.10, however first we need to assure that this release is of sufficient quality | 14:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1067611 in kdevelop (Ubuntu Quantal) "[SRU] Meta bug for tracking KDevelop SRU" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1067611 | 14:09 |
| apachelogger | so i tis in a separate part of the official archive called 'proposed' | 14:10 |
| apachelogger | once it has been verified that the new version works as expected we can move it to from proposed to the regular archive | 14:10 |
| apachelogger | mrlukeparry: in the muon software center go to settings -> configure software sources -> tab updates -> select 'pre-released updates' -> close and do an update | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | you should then get an update that brings, among other things, kdevelop 4.4.1 in | 14:12 |
| mrlukeparry | ah that sounds good apachelogger | 14:12 |
| mrlukeparry | will give it a try | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | if you find that the current version is good enough please also leave a comment on that bug I mentioned so we have confirmation it is good for moving | 14:13 |
| mrlukeparry | everytime I compile something with 4.3.9 it crashes, so i am happy to test it out for you guys | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | if you want additional information you can also read up about the process etc. on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed & https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/PerformingSRUVerification | 14:13 |
| mparillo | New Debian KDE animated splash screen after login on 13.04? I like it. | 14:16 |
| apachelogger | mparillo: huh? | 14:16 |
| mparillo | After I login to Kubuntu 13.04 with today's updates, I now see a differnt KDE splash page, where the 4? icons come up one-by-one. Now there is a Debian curl in the background. | 14:55 |
| shadeslayer | 0.o | 15:07 |
| mparillo | shadeslayer: Surprised as in this slipped in by accident, or surprised that anybody noticed? | 15:09 |
| shadeslayer | surprised that its even different | 15:09 |
| shadeslayer | I don't think the splash stuff was touched | 15:10 |
| shadeslayer | though I might be wrong | 15:10 |
| mparillo | I doubt I did anything special. I grabbed one of the earliest 13.04 32-bit (VMWare player does not seem to like 64-bit) daily builds and have simply been letting muon apply updates ever since (for 12.04 there was a stretch where I had to do dist-upgrade, but so far not on 13.04). And then the KDE splash just changed. I do not recall adding any KDE apps (U1 is Qt with a bunch of Gnome dependencies, and passwordsafe uses | 15:14 |
| mparillo | xywidgets, I think), so I figure I must not be alone. | 15:14 |
| yofel_ | that souds like the ksp | 15:15 |
| yofel_ | ... kplash from debian indeed | 15:15 |
| mparillo | ksp! | 15:15 |
| mparillo | ? | 15:15 |
| * yofel_ can't type on his tablet... | 15:15 | |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| yofel | and I make typo's on my notebook, this doesn't start well ^^ | 15:16 |
| yofel | mparillo: can you check in the splash settings if 'joy' is used? | 15:17 |
| mparillo | System Settings > Startup and Shutdown does not seem to have splash settings. Are they stored elsewhere? | 15:19 |
| yofel | workspace appearance | 15:20 |
| mparillo | joy it is | 15:21 |
| mparillo | I am pretty sue I did not change it manually. | 15:21 |
| yofel | yeah, that's the debian one, which is really nice but shouldn't be used by default... | 15:21 |
| mparillo | It used to be Default. | 15:21 |
| mparillo | Should I open a launch bug, or is this a new feature? As I said, I kinda like it, but maybe it would be even better if the Debian curl were replaced by a Kubuntu gear. Though I understand ScottK likes vanilla KDE, which leads us back to Default. | 15:23 |
| mparillo | s/launch/launchpad/ | 15:23 |
| kubotu | mparillo meant: "Should I open a launchpad bug, or is this a new feature? As I said, I kinda like it, but maybe it would be even better if the Debian curl were replaced by a Kubuntu gear. Though I understand ScottK likes vanilla KDE, which leads us back to Default." | 15:23 |
| tsimpson | I doubt vanilla KDE uses the Debian logo ;) | 15:23 |
| yofel | a bug it is, just where... | 15:24 |
| apachelogger | yofel: it's funny how unituitive sysemsettings has become :S | 15:25 |
| yofel | yeah, the grouping was supposed to clean the UI up. Some of the groups were created from the wrong perspective though :/ | 15:27 |
| yofel | (implementation wise the splash is workspace, user wise it's startup) | 15:27 |
| apachelogger | too many groups anyway | 15:28 |
| apachelogger | also too many settings in general if you ask me | 15:28 |
| apachelogger | i.e. there should be a an advanced mode | 15:28 |
| apachelogger | and if that is not active only like half the stuff should be shown | 15:28 |
| mparillo | Which is why I guessed wrong on Startup and Shutdown. As for filing a launchpad bug, I can always use kde-workspace and let somebody change it. | 15:29 |
| apachelogger | I am reasonable certain the debian splash is not in workspace | 15:29 |
| apachelogger | as a matter of fact I don't know what ships it | 15:29 |
| mparillo | If nobody else is using a daily 13.04 build, I can download today's, apply updates, and confirm before I post a bug report. | 15:31 |
| apachelogger | mparillo: is kubuntu-default-settings installed? | 15:31 |
| apachelogger | ohohoh | 15:32 |
| yofel | lol? | 15:32 |
| yofel | desktop-base: /usr/share/kde4/apps/ksplash/Themes/joy/Theme.rc | 15:32 |
| apachelogger | yofel: do we still package ksplash such that the wallpapers are linked to kde-default.png or whatever it is called? | 15:32 |
| yofel | why the hell is that in desktop-base o.O? | 15:33 |
| yofel | Description-en: common files for the Debian Desktop | 15:33 |
| apachelogger | yofel: it's a debian package | 15:33 |
| yofel | and why do I have that installed... | 15:33 |
| apachelogger | should not be installed by default though | 15:33 |
| apachelogger | only stuff like fluxbos will drag that in IIRC | 15:33 |
| apachelogger | mparillo: ls -l /usr/share/wallpapers/kde-default.png | 15:34 |
| yofel | lightdm-kde-greeter | 15:34 |
| yofel | Recommends: desktop-base | 15:34 |
| apachelogger | oh lol | 15:34 |
| apachelogger | time to flame upstream :P | 15:34 |
| mparillo | I do not see kubuntu-default-settings in my list of installed Software > Provided by Kubuntu | 15:35 |
| apachelogger | mparillo: dpkg-query -l kubuntu-default-settings | 15:36 |
| mparillo | /usr/share/wallpapers/kde-default.png -> Ariya/contents/images/1920x1200.png | 15:36 |
| apachelogger | mparillo: also .... ls -l /usr/share/kde4/apps/ksplash/Themes | 15:37 |
| mparillo | /usr/share/wallpapers/kde-default.png -> Ariya/contents/images/1920x1200.png | 15:37 |
| apachelogger | yofel: question is ... even with desktop-base installed how does it become default? | 15:37 |
| mparillo | Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | 15:37 |
| mparillo | | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend | 15:37 |
| mparillo | |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) | 15:37 |
| mparillo | ||/ Name Version Architecture Description | 15:37 |
| mparillo | +++-==============-============-============-================================= | 15:37 |
| mparillo | ii kubuntu-defaul 1:12.10ubunt all Default settings and artwork for | 15:37 |
| yofel | no idea, it didn't get set as default here | 15:37 |
| mparillo | I might make the bot angry, but: | 15:38 |
| mparillo | total 32 | 15:38 |
| mparillo | drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 4096 Nov 10 00:28 Default | 15:38 |
| mparillo | drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 4096 Nov 16 13:55 Horos | 15:38 |
| mparillo | drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 4096 Nov 16 13:52 joy | 15:38 |
| mparillo | drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Nov 10 00:27 Kubuntu | 15:38 |
| mparillo | drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Nov 16 13:55 Minimalistic | 15:39 |
| mparillo | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 16 13:55 None | 15:39 |
| mparillo | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 16 13:55 Simple | 15:39 |
| mparillo | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 16 13:55 SimpleSmall | 15:39 |
| apachelogger | mparillo: next time please use paste.kde.org ;) | 15:39 |
| yofel | we have no floodbot here ^^ | 15:39 |
| apachelogger | yofel: I consider that a feature | 15:39 |
| yofel | ack | 15:39 |
| apachelogger | usr/share/desktop-base/profiles/kde-profile/share/config/ksplashrc | 15:39 |
| * apachelogger has no clue how that would get picked up -.- | 15:40 | |
| apachelogger | desktop-base is a confusing package :P | 15:40 |
| apachelogger | kubuntu-settings ftw | 15:40 |
| yofel | the fun part is the kde3 and gdm3 part in postinst | 15:41 |
| apachelogger | lulz | 15:41 |
| mparillo | [KSplash] | 15:42 |
| mparillo | Theme=joy | 15:42 |
| apachelogger | the spaecfun wallpaper actually looks rather nice with the ksplash box thing ^^ | 15:43 |
| apachelogger | mparillo: ~/.kde/share/config/ksplashrc | 15:44 |
| apachelogger | /etc/kde4rc | 15:44 |
| apachelogger | echo $KDEDIRS | 15:45 |
| apachelogger | oho | 15:45 |
| apachelogger | yofel: >>> cat /usr/share/kde4/config/kdeglobals | 15:45 |
| apachelogger | [Directories] | 15:45 |
| apachelogger | dir_config=/usr/share/desktop-base/profiles/kde-profile/share/config/ | 15:45 |
| mparillo | ~/.kde/share/config/ksplashrc | 15:45 |
| apachelogger | that's on 12.04 though | 15:46 |
| mparillo | cat: /home/mparillo/.kde/share/config/ksplashrc: No such file or directory | 15:46 |
| yofel | $ cat /usr/share/kde4/config/kdeglobals | 15:46 |
| yofel | [Directories] | 15:46 |
| yofel | dir_config=/usr/share/desktop-base/profiles/kde-profile/share/config/ | 15:46 |
| yofel | 13.04 | 15:46 |
| apachelogger | that's how it gets picked up | 15:46 |
| yofel | fun | 15:46 |
| apachelogger | mparillo: thanks found it | 15:46 |
| apachelogger | so | 15:46 |
| apachelogger | other than lightdm-kde needing a fix.... | 15:47 |
| yofel | removing the recommends should be enough? | 15:47 |
| mparillo | Is it a bug? Upstream? | 15:47 |
| apachelogger | yofel: actually I think talking to upstream is in order | 15:47 |
| yofel | though an alternate depend would be better | 15:47 |
| apachelogger | kdm did not have a relationship with desktop-base I think | 15:47 |
| yofel | yeah | 15:48 |
| apachelogger | so why should lightdm | 15:48 |
| apachelogger | on a related note ... we could make kubuntu-settings conflict desktop-base | 15:48 |
| apachelogger | that would make it pretty obvious should it happen again in the future | 15:48 |
| yofel | someone might want to actually use that | 15:49 |
| apachelogger | I know | 15:49 |
| apachelogger | not having to investigate shit > making 3 people out of 7 billion happy :P | 15:49 |
| apachelogger | just a thought though | 15:49 |
| apachelogger | alternatively we could force defaults in kubuntu-settings | 15:50 |
| apachelogger | i.e. our ksplashrc would be theme=Default | 15:50 |
| apachelogger | so kubuntu settings always take preference, that of course relies on completeness and at the same time would make it harder to investigate as partial brand leaking would occur | 15:50 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: what happens if we blacklist a package in the seed and it would get pulled in through a dep? | 15:51 |
| ScottK | It gets pulled in. | 15:52 |
| ScottK | (on install) | 15:52 |
| ScottK | That or it wouldn't be installable on the livefs build and the build would fail. | 15:52 |
| ScottK | (it being the thing that depended on it) | 15:53 |
| ScottK | So either way, no good. | 15:53 |
| apachelogger | that or there is not helpful ^^ | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | and what's with everyone and the nexus7? | 15:54 |
| ScottK | You missed UDS, so you weren't indoctrinated. | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | apparently | 15:55 |
| ScottK | It's the new Ubuntu hotness. | 15:55 |
| apachelogger | actually it is not just in ubuntu | 15:55 |
| apachelogger | everygo on the intartubes someone is having a nerdgasm over the nexus 7 | 15:55 |
| apachelogger | *everywhere I go | 15:55 |
| apachelogger | hm | 15:56 |
| apachelogger | amarok decided that it wants to scan my home | 15:56 |
| apachelogger | currently scanning my 2.6 kernel clone | 15:56 |
| apachelogger | only 10 more clones to go \o/ | 15:56 |
| mparillo | apachelogger: Do you want me to open a launchpad bug? Assign you? In unfun development environments code checkins are tied to bugs or features. | 16:04 |
| apachelogger | I presume yofel already uploaded a fix | 16:04 |
| yofel | er no? | 16:04 |
| apachelogger | lazy bum :P | 16:04 |
| mparillo | See how fast you can be when you are in a fun development environment? | 16:04 |
| apachelogger | mparillo: if you want to, feel free to open a bug | 16:04 |
| yofel | hm, "fix" for now being dropping the recommends? | 16:05 |
| apachelogger | doing that already | 16:06 |
| yofel | ok | 16:06 |
| apachelogger | yofel: please mail post@ralfj.de to demote it in debian | 16:06 |
| apachelogger | to suggests | 16:06 |
| apachelogger | or drop it entirely | 16:06 |
| apachelogger | probably needs discussion in debian, but since they neither install recommends nor suggests it does not matter and the relation there is definitely not recommends | 16:06 |
| apachelogger | (I would argue that there is none actually.... otherwise all branded packages would have to have one .... :S) | 16:07 |
| apachelogger | mparillo: got a bug report yet? | 16:11 |
| mparillo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/1080115 | 16:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1080115 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu 13.04 Splash Screen has Debian Branding" [Undecided,New] | 16:12 |
| mparillo | Sometimes ubottu seems to auto-post new bug reports, I was waiting to see if it would. | 16:13 |
| apachelogger | cheers | 16:13 |
| apachelogger | mparillo: takes a while | 16:13 |
| apachelogger | that is based on RSS feeds | 16:13 |
| apachelogger | Uploading lightdm-kde_0.3.0-1ubuntu2_source.changes: done. | 16:14 |
| apachelogger | Successfully uploaded packages. | 16:14 |
| yofel | oh, re kubotu: it says (by PERSON) when posting a bug. Wouldn't it make more sense to say who did a change than constantly posting the OP? | 16:14 |
| kubotu | hola yofel | 16:14 |
| * apachelogger returns to doing useful things | 16:14 | |
| yofel | ^^ | 16:14 |
| apachelogger | yofel: tell that to launchpad :P | 16:15 |
| yofel | ah | 16:15 |
| apachelogger | as I said... it's rss based | 16:15 |
| * yofel admits that he has no idea what the rss content is | 16:15 | |
| apachelogger | well, obvoiusly the author is the OP :P | 16:15 |
| apachelogger | which may be right one could argue | 16:16 |
| apachelogger | not very practical though | 16:16 |
| mparillo | Leaving for a while...I have stirred up enough trouble. | 16:16 |
| apachelogger | if I wasn't so lazy I'd write something with mails or something | 16:16 |
| apachelogger | mparillo: yeah thanks for that :P | 16:16 |
| yofel | well, you could maybe take code from Eeebotu | 16:17 |
| apachelogger | yofel: it also uses rss | 16:17 |
| yofel | ah, that explains the batch-postings | 16:18 |
| apachelogger | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mrooney/eeebotu/trunk/view/head:/eeebotu.py#L104 | 16:18 |
| apachelogger | the souping there is somewhat spooky ^^ | 16:18 |
| yofel | lol | 16:19 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Debian does install Recommends by default. | 16:21 |
| apachelogger | spooky | 16:21 |
| * yofel is off for a while | 16:22 | |
| apachelogger | oh, now I amhungry | 16:22 |
| * ScottK is considering a bagle with lox and creamed cheese in a bit. | 16:23 | |
| ScottK | bagel even. | 16:23 |
| * ScottK notices his quassel has lost it's spellcheck. | 16:24 | |
| ScottK | Fixed. | 16:24 |
| apachelogger | hm | 16:24 |
| apachelogger | anyone remember http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beagle_(software) | 16:24 |
| apachelogger | <<we did it in c# because we can>> | 16:25 |
| apachelogger | galago :D | 16:26 |
| apachelogger | ftbfs | 16:32 |
| apachelogger | /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/mesa-egl/libEGL.so.1: undefined reference to `wl_display_iterate' | 16:33 |
| apachelogger | hrm | 16:33 |
| apachelogger | also what's the last comment in bug 1074961 about | 16:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1074961 in kamoso (Ubuntu) "Missing icons" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1074961 | 16:35 |
| ScottK | Isn't kamoso afiestas' baby? I'm sure he can fix it. | 16:38 |
| apachelogger | yeah, I threw the bug at him, no clue what happened ^^ | 16:40 |
| apachelogger | actually I think that is fixed in master | 16:40 |
| apachelogger | at least rdieter made a commit there WRT icon stuff | 16:40 |
| apachelogger | not going to look into that now or I'll starve though :P | 16:40 |
| mparillo | Speaking of Quassel spell-check, rekonq 2 with spell-check is coming soon (stable by Christmas). Does anybody know which version of rekonq is targeted in 13.04? | 18:35 |
| yofel | whatever's useful. Feature Freeze is in march, so if it doesn't require any weird things we should have it | 18:39 |
| * apachelogger falls over | 19:07 | |
| * yofel hands apachelogger a pillow | 19:09 | |
| apachelogger | :) | 19:16 |
| ScottK | yofel: The pillow helps more before the fall. | 20:25 |
| yofel | :P | 20:26 |
| ScottK | synaptiks port to python3 seem feasible if we can get kpythonpluginfactory ported. | 20:27 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: someone maintaining it would be useful first | 21:03 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: What alternative have we got? | 21:03 |
| apachelogger | not shipping unmaintained software that has bugs all over it :S | 21:04 |
| apachelogger | alternatively make upstream create something durable | 21:05 |
| ScottK | It seems that "maintenance" is mostly removing stuff for features X is dropping. | 21:05 |
| ScottK | There's patches running around in a bug to do this. | 21:06 |
| apachelogger | random patches for unmaintained software tend to make things worse | 21:07 |
| apachelogger | that's what made phonon xine drag on for years | 21:07 |
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