| surfn__ | I'm trying to configure rdesktop - what files do I need to install on the target machine to make this work? | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| xixor | surfn__: rdesktop, the Microsoft RDP client? | 00:05 |
| xixor | surfn__: I do this all the time. The target machine just needs to be running the RDP server | 00:05 |
| surfn__ | Sorry, its a linux box, what do I need to install to run the RDP server? | 00:06 |
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| surfn__ | xixor: does that make sense? | 00:06 |
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| zacarias | Is there a place (like an editable text fikle) where the application settings are stored? | 00:07 |
| xixor | surfn__: RDP server only runs on windows | 00:07 |
| surfn__ | I've installed the rdesktop on the local Kubuntu box, but what do I need to install on the target (Debian) to rdesktop into it? | 00:07 |
| xixor | surfn__: you cannot. rdesktop is a client for Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP), which is a service that only windows computers have | 00:08 |
| DarthFrog | !vnc | surfn__ | 00:08 |
| ubottu | surfn__: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX | 00:08 |
| xixor | surfn__: there are some technologies that can do this for linux: VNC, NX, Xforwarding, Xforwarding over SSH | 00:08 |
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| surfn__ | k cheers, I'll look into VNC... | 00:10 |
| xixor | For the past 10 years I've used VNC, NX, Xforwarding.... none of them hold a candle to RDP | 00:14 |
| zacarias | I set Gwenview to open on full screen (in a compulsory way) in the "special aplication settings". Now, I can't access the window bar of the application to turn the setting off, because it doesn't leave full screen. Any help? | 00:15 |
| DarthFrog | zacarias: What happens when you press ALT-M when the gwenview window has the focus? | 00:15 |
| zacarias | DarthFrog: Nothing happens. Should it show the window menu? | 00:17 |
| DarthFrog | Try Alt-W. | 00:17 |
| zacarias | DarthFrog: Again, nothing. | 00:18 |
| DarthFrog | Hmm, strange. | 00:18 |
| DarthFrog | Alt-F should help. | 00:18 |
| DarthFrog | or Alt-S | 00:19 |
| phiscribe | f11 | 00:23 |
| zacarias | DarthFrog: Hi, I managed how to do it: System Settings->Window Behaviour->Window Rules, and there it was for me to edit. Thanks anway! :-) | 00:36 |
| DarthFrog | zacarias: Glad to hear it. | 00:37 |
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| Brustofski-Fan | 12.10 is a big improvement over 12.04. boot time seems twice as fast.. apt-get is faster.. not geting the kde errors like i did in 12.04. | 02:21 |
| satyam | Hi | 02:22 |
| Brustofski-Fan | hello | 02:22 |
| xixor | Brustofski-Fan: I found 12.04 to be pretty unstable as well | 02:22 |
| satyam | I use 12.04 and love it | 02:23 |
| satyam | I put 12.10 on my laptop but given the difference in hardware haven't notice any performance differences | 02:23 |
| Brustofski-Fan | from boot to login screen 14 sec | 02:24 |
| Brustofski-Fan | think 12.04 was like 20 22 sec | 02:25 |
| satyam | wow, quite a difference | 02:25 |
| satyam | I'll have to get around to upgrading | 02:25 |
| Brustofski-Fan | i know... Like windows 8 has about a 10 sec faster boot then win 7 did | 02:26 |
| Brustofski-Fan | but 12.10 jumped from kernel 3.2 to 3.5 | 02:26 |
| satyam | have you used windows 8 | 02:26 |
| Brustofski-Fan | Yeah.. downloaded file share.. and a activation crack | 02:27 |
| satyam | What's it like? | 02:28 |
| sevenhill | satyam: just like all m$ crap useless | 02:29 |
| satyam | I don't use windows and kind of selfishly hope it sucks, but I'd like to know for sure | 02:29 |
| satyam | That's what I wanted to hear :) | 02:30 |
| Brustofski-Fan | Desktop is cleaner.. The metro UI is different... But i download a program.. called start8. That gives the win7 start menu | 02:30 |
| sevenhill | satyam: they try to make a market store like in android | 02:30 |
| satyam | My KDE setup right now is the best windowing environment I've had in 20 years. | 02:30 |
| satyam | They want to lock in people to their $ | 02:31 |
| xixor | satyam: KDE is pretty good, eh? | 02:31 |
| Brustofski-Fan | Really all i need windows for is adobe photo shop CS5.. | 02:31 |
| xixor | satyam: it's no windows 7, but it's pretty good | 02:31 |
| sevenhill | Brustofski-Fan: did you try with wine ? | 02:32 |
| satyam | I use a very old photoshop 7 in wine, and CS3 in virtual box sometimes | 02:32 |
| satyam | I like KDE much better than windows 7 | 02:33 |
| sevenhill | Brustofski-Fan: by the way do you restart your computer to start ps cs5 or are you using one of virtual machines ? | 02:33 |
| Brustofski-Fan | Yeah.. about 5 times.. never get it to work... Going to put vbox on in a bit.. then win8 in vbox | 02:33 |
| satyam | I can do so much more | 02:33 |
| satyam | Virtual box runs programs very fast these days | 02:33 |
| satyam | No restart | 02:34 |
| Brustofski-Fan | I know. only thing i came across with virtual box and windows.. is video play back sucks | 02:34 |
| sevenhill | i think next version of ps must be work on cloud so they can easily make its client for linux ( most of filter or other craps will do in their cloud servers ) | 02:35 |
| satyam | Interesting idea about ps | 02:35 |
| genewitc1 | how do i tell what video card my system is currently using? | 02:35 |
| genewitc1 | and/or is there better documentation for vgaswitcheroo | 02:36 |
| satyam | bye | 02:37 |
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| genewitc1 | hm | 02:40 |
| Brustofski-Fan | Now find me a good clean gray theme for the panel | 02:46 |
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| vbgunz | Does anyone know how to shut up Instant Messenger up when it first launches? It somehow feels a need to tell me about 5 times it cannot connect to an account and when I check it, each account is connected. every single time and it's overly annoying :/ | 04:55 |
| OerHeks | to what service, msn messenger? | 04:56 |
| vbgunz | I think every service, I get about 1 message for every account or atleast the messages pop up on full auto | 04:57 |
| vbgunz | I'm checking notifications in system settings for instant messenger *but* I believe turning that off will turn off other more important messages that I should probably be made aware of | 04:57 |
| OerHeks | are you on Kubuntu or ubuntu ? | 04:59 |
| vbgunz | kubuntu | 04:59 |
| vbgunz | I just realized I cannot shut down the instant messenger | 05:00 |
| vbgunz | I'd probably have to kill it but I am having a field day trying to find the proper way to exit it | 05:00 |
| vbgunz | running xkill and shooting down the instant messenger window results in just chilling and sipping a margarita in my system tray... really? | 05:05 |
| vbgunz | that's a crazy app | 05:05 |
| OerHeks | blame msn, i guess, heard it more before. | 05:07 |
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| ghostconn00 | hello | 06:37 |
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| Barami | Hello. | 06:57 |
| Barami | I have a question. Ho w to use ibus in kubuntu-desktop ? | 06:58 |
| Barami | In the kde, gtk application can input by ibus. but. qt applications cannot input cjk by ibus. | 07:00 |
| Barami | I had installed ibus-qt. | 07:00 |
| Barami | What do i do? | 07:01 |
| sevenhill | could you try this : open konsole then | 07:03 |
| sevenhill | write : export QT_IM_MODULE=ibus | 07:03 |
| sevenhill | then start an application for example kate or kwrite | 07:03 |
| Barami | aleady setted to ibus. | 07:03 |
| sevenhill | i mean start kwrite in that konsole | 07:04 |
| sevenhill | because there were a small bug about fetching env before i'm not sure if it fixed or not | 07:04 |
| Barami | i have tried. But.. don't work. | 07:05 |
| Barami | only english can input.. | 07:06 |
| sevenhill | could you also try this : export XMODIFIERS=@im=ibus | 07:08 |
| sevenhill | then start kwrite | 07:08 |
| Barami | ok. | 07:08 |
| Barami | Hmm.. dont work.. | 07:09 |
| sevenhill | is ibus deamon working background ? | 07:09 |
| sevenhill | ps -ef | grep ibus | 07:09 |
| Barami | yes. and ibus icon showed in tray area. | 07:11 |
| sevenhill | which app are you trying on ? | 07:11 |
| Barami | kwrite | 07:11 |
| sevenhill | @Barami : is ibus-qt4 installed ? | 07:14 |
| Barami | yes | 07:15 |
| Barami | http://i45.tinypic.com/3460w2s.jpg | 07:16 |
| sevenhill | @Barami : this is for ubuntu but you may try : http://code.google.com/p/ibus/wiki/Ubuntu | 07:18 |
| Barami | yes.. i tried aleady. | 07:20 |
| sevenhill | This ? : http://rail02000.blogspot.com/2012/04/kubuntu-1204-beta2ibus.html | 07:22 |
| Barami | After installed ubuntu-desktop, i installed kubuntu-desktop meta package. | 07:22 |
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| Barami | sevenhill, i cant see those setting page. | 07:28 |
| Barami | http://oi45.tinypic.com/240y6pv.jpg | 07:28 |
| giordano | antonio ci sei? | 09:16 |
| giordano | salve | 09:24 |
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| jahoval | buenos días | 11:06 |
| jahoval | pues sí que sois habladores por aquí! | 11:07 |
| jahoval | algún español, por casualidad? | 11:07 |
| jahoval | o catalán? :-o))) | 11:08 |
| tsimpson | !es | 11:09 |
| ubottu | En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 11:09 |
| jahoval | muchas gracias | 11:11 |
| Marius80 | I've got a big problem | 11:33 |
| Marius80 | I installed KDE 4.9.3 from the Backports | 11:33 |
| Marius80 | since I realized, that this version is very buggy, I would like to downgrade again | 11:34 |
| Marius80 | question: How do downgrade to the "normal" KDE version kubuntu 12.04 has been shipped with? | 11:34 |
| Peace- | Marius80: mm it's not easy | 11:35 |
| Peace- | Marius80: you need to ... for example install another DE for example razor-qt or lxde | 11:36 |
| Peace- | Marius80: then remove all kde stuff | 11:36 |
| Peace- | Marius80: remove the ppa form your source list | 11:36 |
| Peace- | Marius80: then reinstall kde from the standard repository | 11:36 |
| Marius80 | Peace-, I just found a posting on a forum | 11:36 |
| Marius80 | only problem is, that I cannot understand it *LOL* | 11:36 |
| Marius80 | Peace-, they use terms I never heard before | 11:37 |
| Marius80 | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1378709 | 11:37 |
| Marius80 | Peace-, actually I do have things like gnome here | 11:37 |
| Marius80 | gnome, icewm, and trinity desktop | 11:37 |
| Peace- | Marius80: you have other desktop | 11:38 |
| Peace- | oh well | 11:38 |
| Marius80 | Peace-, do you know what this guy is talking about? | 11:39 |
| Marius80 | http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8650035&postcount=6 | 11:39 |
| Peace- | Marius80: i know | 11:40 |
| Marius80 | Peace-, can you explain it to me? | 11:41 |
| Marius80 | what is a leader? | 11:41 |
| Marius80 | what is left? | 11:41 |
| Peace- | Marius80: listen you wanna install your kde yes or not ? | 11:41 |
| Marius80 | yes | 11:41 |
| Peace- | ok so remove evey kubuntu package cuz you have gnome like secondary DE | 11:41 |
| Peace- | then remove the ppa | 11:42 |
| Peace- | then reinstall kubuntu-desktop that's all | 11:42 |
| Marius80 | how will I find out what packages belong to KDE? | 11:42 |
| Peace- | wait a moment i guess i need to upgrade my page | 11:43 |
| Marius80 | will be back soon | 11:44 |
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| Peace- | Marius80: do this sudo apt-get install $(apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop | awk '/Depen/ || /Rec/{ gsub(/\,/,"") ;gsub(/Recommends:/,"");gsub(/Depends:/,""); print} ' | awk '{ printf "%s", $0 }') | 11:58 |
| Peace- | it should work but i am not sure | 11:58 |
| Peace- | this comamand get the dependeces of kubuntu-desktop package and converts it into a string that apt-get install should read | 11:58 |
| tsimpson | (hint) you know just about everything KDE related depends on kdelibs5 | 12:00 |
| tsimpson | so removing that should just about remove everything, add autoremove and it should get rid of everything Kubuntu related too | 12:01 |
| Marius80 | Peace-, re | 12:04 |
| Marius80 | Peace-, thank you very much, I will try it out | 12:04 |
| Peace- | tsimpson: good | 12:04 |
| Peace- | tsimpson: i was thinkin to release a little bash script called kubuntu-kde-reinstaller | 12:05 |
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| Marius80 | other question: How can I install a package with a broken dependency? | 12:13 |
| Marius80 | there is a software, telling me that it needs a certain package, but I know, that this is not true | 12:14 |
| Marius80 | how can I install it anyway? | 12:14 |
| Peace- | Marius80: You should not install it | 12:15 |
| Peace- | cuz the package is not well done | 12:15 |
| Marius80 | Peace-, anyway, how can I ? | 12:15 |
| Peace- | Marius80: dpkg man google | 12:15 |
| Marius80 | hum? | 12:16 |
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| Peace- | Marius80: 2 link here http://lmgtfy.com/?q=dpkg+force+broken+dependencies | 12:23 |
| Marius80 | Peace-, that was the word ... "force" :) | 12:25 |
| Marius80 | thank you! | 12:25 |
| Peace- | Marius80: teh force will be with you lol | 12:26 |
| Marius80 | thank you :) | 12:26 |
| Marius80 | I need to go to work now | 12:26 |
| Marius80 | thank you very much! | 12:26 |
| Marius80 | see you soon | 12:26 |
| xixor | !ppa | 12:34 |
| ubottu | A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge | 12:34 |
| xixor | !addppa | 12:34 |
| ubottu | Since Ubuntu 9.10, a !ppa can be added using a single command « sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name » See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20PPAs for more details | 12:34 |
| xixor | !backports | 12:34 |
| ubottu | If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging | 12:34 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:17 |
| alf_ | hola alp1 | 13:18 |
| alp1 | hi alf | 13:18 |
| alf_ | quehaces | 13:19 |
| alp1 | hablar contigo | 13:19 |
| alf_ | mandame el pingüino | 13:20 |
| alf_ | si | 13:22 |
| Lectus | Hi! My microphone is not working on Kubuntu. Can anyone help me? | 13:43 |
| thelionroars | Lectus, have you tried setting the device priority in System Settings? | 13:45 |
| Lectus | No | 13:47 |
| Lectus | where's that? | 13:47 |
| thelionroars | Click on the Start (K) Menu, the 'System Settings'. Select Multimedia which is under the hardware section | 13:48 |
| thelionroars | In multimedia, click on 'Phonon' on the left, then click on 'Audio Recording'. | 13:49 |
| Lectus | Ok | 13:49 |
| Lectus | there's only one device in the list | 13:49 |
| thelionroars | are you able to test it? | 13:50 |
| Lectus | I tested my mic in a recording program... the problem is when I set it to rear mic it works, then it changes automatically back to front mic | 13:50 |
| Lectus | which doesn't work | 13:50 |
| thelionroars | strange. Is that after a restart or something | 13:51 |
| Peace- | Lectus: so it's a proigram problem | 13:51 |
| Peace- | not a device problem | 13:51 |
| Lectus | I guess it's something with pulse audio | 13:51 |
| Lectus | when it was just alsa it used to work | 13:51 |
| Peace- | Lectus: pulse shoul dnot be the problem | 13:52 |
| Peace- | anyway you can try with record -o test.wav | 13:52 |
| Peace- | press CRTL C to stopp | 13:52 |
| BluesKaj | Lectus, open alsamixer i the terminal , F6 to show all ctrls and make sure the inputs aren't muted (MM) , use the arrowe keys to navigate and the up down keys to increase / decrease the volume | 13:52 |
| Peace- | then play test.wav | 13:52 |
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| BluesKaj | it's always best to start with alsmixer then setup phonon and pavucontrol (pulseaudio) | 13:54 |
| Lectus | volumes are fine in alsamixer | 13:54 |
| BluesKaj | und unmuted ? | 13:54 |
| Lectus | yes | 13:54 |
| BluesKaj | and | 13:54 |
| Lectus | is there a way to make it set rear mic as default? | 13:55 |
| Lectus | that would solve the problem | 13:55 |
| BluesKaj | ok , install pavucontrol | 13:55 |
| Lectus | I already have pavucontrol | 13:55 |
| BluesKaj | Lectus, then set the imput devices | 13:56 |
| mrlukeparry | I'm just wondering if anyone know's how I can test the kdevelop 4.4.1 packages | 13:57 |
| mrlukeparry | I have downloaded them but it says external dependencies aren't met | 13:57 |
| BluesKaj | mrlukeparry, best to ask in #kubuntu-devel | 13:58 |
| mrlukeparry | cool thank you | 13:59 |
| Lectus | strange... using "record" program it says /dev/mixer can't be found | 13:59 |
| BluesKaj | do you have sound with your audio outputs from amarok or ...? | 14:00 |
| Lectus | yes | 14:00 |
| BluesKaj | Lectus,^ | 14:00 |
| Lectus | output is fine | 14:00 |
| BluesKaj | Lectus, and you're sure your mic inputs are enabled in pavucontrol | 14:01 |
| Lectus | yes | 14:01 |
| BluesKaj | what audio chip is loaded in alsamixer? | 14:02 |
| Lectus | it seems I got it to work now | 14:02 |
| Lectus | it's set to rear mic in pavucontrol | 14:03 |
| Lectus | and it isn't changing back to front mic | 14:03 |
| BluesKaj | my mic experience rather limited , but sometimes a reboot is in order after I/O changes | 14:06 |
| Lectus | I think I triggered the problem | 14:09 |
| Lectus | when I set the volume too high of the rear mic | 14:09 |
| Lectus | it changes automatically to front mic for some reason | 14:09 |
| BluesKaj | Lectus, what about kmix settings , sometimes they don't follow the changes | 14:10 |
| Lectus | kmix has the same settings | 14:13 |
| BluesKaj | anyone else have any suggestions ? but a reboot may be order to make the settings stick | 14:15 |
| Lectus | I'll try a reboot to see if settings stay in rear mic | 14:16 |
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| Tonberry | is the kde battery plasmoid supposed to have support for more than one battery? | 15:09 |
| Tonberry | there is a tickbox that seems to do nothing | 15:09 |
| Tonberry | and quickly looking at the source code seems to show only hardcoded references to Battery0 as a data source | 15:10 |
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| Tonberry | some digging showed that the feature was removed and readded recently so the new code has not made a release yet | 15:28 |
| uberTaco | hiya folks | 15:47 |
| uberTaco | I've got a weird one. | 15:47 |
| uberTaco | So I'm using Kubuntu pretty happily on multiple machines. On this machine in particular (my personal laptop) | 15:48 |
| uberTaco | qt4 fonts are...unpleasant. | 15:48 |
| uberTaco | Most particularly, Clementine uses "Abyssinica", size 14. Which is huge. | 15:48 |
| uberTaco | I know that it's using that font, because that's what it shows in qtconfig every time I launch qtconfig. | 15:49 |
| uberTaco | I've used qtconfig to adjust fonts, but to no effect. After some googling, I found out about ~/.config/Trolltech.conf and tried manually setting that (no dice), checking its permissions (no good either), and deleting it entirely in case it was corrupted (still no help). | 15:49 |
| uberTaco | I'm on 12.10, if that makes any impact. | 15:50 |
| BluesKaj | uberTaco, I have to ask , but have you tried setting the fonts in system settings>app appearance>fonts ? or are you using Font Management in sys settings? | 15:57 |
| uberTaco | BluesKaj: I've tried using the System Settings config | 16:14 |
| uberTaco | and it works for most KDE apps | 16:14 |
| uberTaco | it's just apps that are not-KDE-specific but are QT apps (like for example Clementine) | 16:14 |
| tsimpson | uberTaco: install qt4-qtconfig and run qtconfig, you should be able to set the default fonts for Qt apps from there | 16:16 |
| BluesKaj | uberTaco, i didn't run the qtconfig because it couldn't connect o X server on my system , but setting fonts in system settings as root seems to work for clewmentine , kdesudo systemsettings in the krunner | 16:20 |
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| uberTaco | BluesKaj: I'll give it a shot | 16:44 |
| uberTaco | tsimpson: 10:49:52 uberTaco | I've used qtconfig to adjust fonts, but to no effect. | 16:44 |
| BluesKaj | uberTaco, in he meantime qtconfig finally did work here as tsimpson suggested ..looks like it will work for you | 16:45 |
| uberTaco | if only. | 16:45 |
| uberTaco | that would be easy | 16:45 |
| BluesKaj | then try the root system settings route | 16:46 |
| uberTaco | just gave that a shot too | 16:46 |
| uberTaco | no dice. :\ | 16:46 |
| BluesKaj | reload clementine | 16:47 |
| uberTaco | okay, I realize I'm in a support channel, but I'm not an idiot. clementine is closed until I test settings each time. Change settings -> Launch Clementine -> Close Clementine GOTO 10 | 16:47 |
| uberTaco | gonna pastebin what my ~/.config/Trolltech.conf looks like after saving changes in qtconfig and then what it looks like after launching qtconfig again | 16:48 |
| uberTaco | mmkay, here's after saving changes: http://paste.kde.org/609350/ | 16:49 |
| uberTaco | hm. it's staying the same after relaunching qtconfig, but qtconfig is ignoring font settings | 16:51 |
| uberTaco | and qtconfig doesn't output anything to stdout or stderr either when I launch it from a terminal | 16:51 |
| uberTaco | so no error messages | 16:51 |
| kdebooth | Hello | 16:53 |
| kdebooth | Can I get some assistance in cleaning up my / drive? | 16:53 |
| kdebooth | I have 22 mb free | 16:54 |
| kdebooth | not sure how that happened | 16:54 |
| uberTaco | kdebooth: start by uninstalling packages you don't need | 16:56 |
| uberTaco | kdebooth: I'd stay clear of deleting things manually on your / drive, since there could be important stuff in there | 16:56 |
| bjrohan | Helllppp. For a few weeks i have been recording my desktop with RecordMyDesktop, all has been fine. Today I did a recording and I do not have audio. When I open up Pulse Audio, I get a response from my webcam on the input devices. Where may the connection be broken, and how do I remedy it? | 16:57 |
| uberTaco | kdebooth: in general, "du -d1 -h" (in a terminal) will show you how much space is used by each directory | 16:58 |
| kdebooth | uberTaco: Suggesions for tracking down stuff I don't need | 16:58 |
| kdebooth | uberTaco: I use ducks | 16:58 |
| uberTaco | kdebooth: try this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/debian-linux-remove-unwanted-packages-and-files-to-reclaim-disk-space.html | 16:59 |
| kdebooth | bjrohan: As in the webcam audio works fine? | 16:59 |
| uberTaco | ! with caution though ! | 16:59 |
| ubottu | uberTaco: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 16:59 |
| uberTaco | not you, ubottu. | 16:59 |
| uberTaco | anyhow, I guess QT just doesn't like me. :\ I've gotta leave | 16:59 |
| uberTaco | thansk for at least trying, BluesKaj | 16:59 |
| bjrohan | kdebooth: Yep. and I can play audio from my speakers. Only thing I did was apply an update this morning | 17:00 |
| BluesKaj | uberTaco, it's difficult to know what users are doing so sometimes suggestions that appear rude really aren't ..spend some time in here and you'll understand :) | 17:01 |
| kdebooth | He bounced BluesKaj | 17:01 |
| kdebooth | bjrohan: what was in the update? | 17:01 |
| === mrlukeparry is now known as mrlukeparry_away | ||
| BluesKaj | yeah , kdebooth , another quit while trying to reply ...it happens afrequently | 17:02 |
| bjrohan | kdebooth: I dunno. How do I check? | 17:02 |
| kdebooth | bjrohan: Apt logs? | 17:02 |
| bjrohan | kdebooth: looks like gnome-keyring, krdc, kppp, libpam-gnome-keyring, kde-zeroconf, skanlite, kdenetwork-filesharing | 17:04 |
| bjrohan | my RecordMyDesktop gtk shows audio as default. How do I know if my webcam is set as some kind of default | 17:04 |
| kdebooth | lookin pulseaudio settings | 17:07 |
| BluesKaj | bjrohan, also alsamixer mic input settings | 17:08 |
| bjrohan | I found a solution in Google. Change audio from default to pulse. Not sure why it was working as default for weeks, and now I have to change it | 17:09 |
| kdebooth | !info deborphan | 17:10 |
| ubottu | deborphan (source: deborphan): program that can find unused packages, e.g. libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.28.8 (quantal), package size 101 kB, installed size 498 kB | 17:10 |
| kdebooth | Hmm | 17:23 |
| kdebooth | I'm on raring for some reason | 17:23 |
| BluesKaj | kdebooth, did you run sudo do-release-upgrade -d by any chance ? :) | 17:43 |
| kdebooth | BluesKaj: looks like I did and cancelled it | 17:45 |
| kdebooth | I don't think apt-get remove is working | 17:45 |
| kdebooth | Ok I have 16k of space left now | 17:47 |
| kdebooth | everytime I delete something i have less space | 17:54 |
| kdebooth | I have 12k now | 17:54 |
| kdebooth | I can't tab complete anymore | 17:54 |
| kdebooth | going to try shutting down the X server | 17:57 |
| Torch | kdebooth: if you have your home for your user on the same file system as the root file system you'll at some point only be able to login as root | 17:58 |
| Torch | kdebooth: make sure you know what you're going to do then ;-) | 17:58 |
| Torch | kdebooth: probably a good idea to have a live CD or memory drive ready | 17:59 |
| kdebooth | Torch: Different partitions. The ~ partition has 20GB free | 18:02 |
| kdebooth | Hooray i have 40K free now on / | 18:03 |
| Torch | ouch.... | 18:03 |
| kdebooth | I can tab complete again :) | 18:03 |
| Torch | kdebooth: question is what fills up the root partition then | 18:03 |
| kdebooth | I know I can't find it whatever it is | 18:03 |
| kdebooth | ate like 7GB and I can't figure out where | 18:03 |
| kdebooth | and apt-get doesn't work so I can't remove packages | 18:03 |
| Torch | kdebooth: you could try manually cleaning out /var/cache/apt/archives | 18:04 |
| Torch | kdebooth: that's just the cache, not the packages, of course | 18:04 |
| kdebooth | I did already | 18:04 |
| Torch | installing iotop is not an option if we can't install.... | 18:05 |
| kdebooth | yep | 18:06 |
| Torch | how bad is /tmp filled up? | 18:07 |
| Torch | the tab complete thing is fishy, that shouldn't happen when logged in with a regular user | 18:07 |
| kdebooth | i currently don't have enough space to have a package and it's installed files | 18:08 |
| kdebooth | Torch: not sure | 18:08 |
| Torch | what does du -hs /tmp say? | 18:08 |
| kdebooth | most stuff in /tmp/ I dont' have access to | 18:08 |
| Torch | as root ;-) | 18:09 |
| kdebooth | 32k | 18:09 |
| Torch | ok, that's not it then ;-) | 18:09 |
| Torch | what about /var/tmp ? | 18:09 |
| kdebooth | yeah I kinda suspected | 18:09 |
| kdebooth | 482 | 18:10 |
| kdebooth | Thats significant | 18:10 |
| Torch | meg? | 18:10 |
| kdebooth | Thats iptop space | 18:10 |
| kdebooth | Meg | 18:11 |
| Torch | i have about the same here so it's not unusual | 18:12 |
| Torch | also, if you're missing 7 GiB, half a MiB won't save you in the long run | 18:12 |
| Torch | no, wait, confused.... half a GiB | 18:12 |
| kdebooth | +Whoopps | 18:12 |
| kdebooth | almost confused du with dd :) | 18:13 |
| Torch | ouch ;-) | 18:13 |
| Torch | though the syntax is different enough to notice | 18:13 |
| kdebooth | Yeah | 18:13 |
| kdebooth | dd is obtuse on purpose | 18:13 |
| kdebooth | Ok so I have KDE shutdown | 18:14 |
| kdebooth | Can I blow away the kdecache ? | 18:15 |
| Torch | yes | 18:15 |
| kdebooth | It should just rebuild it on login right? | 18:15 |
| Torch | yes, no worries | 18:15 |
| Torch | you could also symlink /var/tmp to somewhere else, but i wouldn't recommend doing things like that until you get really desperate | 18:16 |
| kdebooth | ok so I just deleted it and now I have 18 M free | 18:16 |
| Torch | after restarting KDE? | 18:17 |
| kdebooth | No | 18:17 |
| kdebooth | after rm -rf && df -h | 18:17 |
| Torch | hmm | 18:17 |
| kdebooth | like before I'd remove something and I'd have less space | 18:18 |
| Torch | you did try rebooting the machine at some point? | 18:18 |
| kdebooth | I started out with 252 MB and removing stuff dropped me down to 16k | 18:18 |
| kdebooth | Yes | 18:18 |
| kdebooth | this is post reboot | 18:18 |
| kdebooth | LIke I said somethign is filling it up but I can't find where | 18:19 |
| kdebooth | at least I have install space now | 18:19 |
| kdebooth | lets see if apt-get remove works again | 18:19 |
| kdebooth | Nope | 18:20 |
| Torch | what's it say? | 18:20 |
| kdebooth | It just drops back to the command line instantly | 18:20 |
| kdebooth | I ran deborphan since /usr/lib is the second biggest dir | 18:21 |
| kdebooth | after /usr/share/games | 18:21 |
| kdebooth | It gives me a list of libraries | 18:21 |
| Torch | what's in /usr/share/games? i don't have it. | 18:21 |
| kdebooth | trying to uninstall them doesn't give any feedback it just drops it back to the command line. Running deborphan again gives the same list | 18:22 |
| kdebooth | Games I would suppose | 18:22 |
| kdebooth | Warzone | 18:22 |
| Torch | did you install any? | 18:22 |
| kdebooth | which ironically is one of the reasons I upgraded to 12.10 which kicked off this whole thing | 18:22 |
| dougl | My Kubuntu is being retarded... kmail is sending emails with a reply address of doug@ubuntu - this is not my email address, how/where do I correct this 12.10 feature? | 18:23 |
| Torch | wouldn't it make sense to remove those games temporarily? | 18:23 |
| * dougl thinks 12.10 is not ready for prime time. | 18:23 | |
| Torch | dougl: set up your account in kmail, i guess | 18:23 |
| kdebooth | I could but I can't apt-get remove | 18:23 |
| Torch | dougl: it's using your login information | 18:23 |
| kdebooth | and so far doing that results in my having less space when it actually removes rather than more | 18:24 |
| Torch | kdebooth: but you _can_ move the games directory somewhere else for the time being | 18:24 |
| kdebooth | Torch: Hmm should | 18:24 |
| Torch | kdebooth: and move it back once the situation improves | 18:24 |
| dougl | Torch, that was my guess too - where should I guess next? | 18:25 |
| kdebooth | runing sudo apt-get update right now | 18:25 |
| Torch | dougl: i don't understand the question? | 18:25 |
| kdebooth | Torch: I think he means he checked that already | 18:26 |
| Torch | dougl: in that case check again ;-) | 18:26 |
| Torch | dougl: make sure there's only one account and that it's being used for sending mail | 18:27 |
| kdebooth | 40M | 18:27 |
| Torch | you might think about installion iotop again, but it will pull in half of python, i think, so 40 MiB might not suffice | 18:28 |
| kdebooth | moving the games dir | 18:28 |
| kdebooth | Torch: For a command line program? | 18:28 |
| Torch | I've got to run errands now, good luck, maybe see you later | 18:28 |
| Torch | kdebooth: for a complete language including a monster of a framework | 18:29 |
| dougl | Torch, there is only one outgoing account adn I config'd use custom sender address to my correct e-mail address and it made no difference... outgoing email indicate return e-mail address is doug@ubuntu - how/where do I configure the correct email address? | 18:29 |
| kdebooth | Whoohoo! Moved 500 Megs of dir and got 200 Megs free | 18:29 |
| kdebooth | dougl: Oh return e-mail | 18:29 |
| kdebooth | I set that up somewhere.. I forget where now though | 18:29 |
| kdebooth | and I have no X server so I can't check | 18:30 |
| kdebooth | crap it's dropped to 122 Megs now | 18:30 |
| kdebooth | Im going to uninstall the Xserver and all qt and gtk libs | 18:31 |
| kdebooth | lets see if it gives me any space | 18:32 |
| kdebooth | dougl: I would guess it's either in Identity or sending account | 18:34 |
| === mrlukeparry_away is now known as mrlukeparry | ||
| dougl | thanks guys I stumbled across it - appreciate the help. | 18:34 |
| kdebooth | dougl: wher was it? | 18:38 |
| kdebooth | Seriously? I have 500 Meg free after uninstalling near everything | 18:38 |
| dougl | kdebooth, in identity under the general tab. | 18:39 |
| dougl | my home directory is from a 10.10 install that I keep migrating to my new ubuntu installs and some stuff does not work quite rite | 18:40 |
| kdebooth | dougl: Yeah Identity would have been my first guesss | 18:42 |
| dougl | kdebooth, I never guess right the first time... I was looking under pop3 crap then smtp area... funny I will install new sound drivers before I check the volume - guess that makes me stupid, no worries tho I got you and Torch . Thanks again for the help :) | 18:45 |
| kdebooth | dougl: :) just means you'll find the right solution faster than us sometimes | 18:50 |
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| === ubuntu is now known as Guest1997 | ||
| === Guest1997 is now known as Gleed | ||
| kdebooth | Ok I just counted all my files and there is 5.5 GB of files on a 15 GB partition with 800 megs left free | 19:32 |
| Tm_T | kdebooth: how did you count? | 19:35 |
| ptomblin | There are a bunch of reasons for that - 1. files in directories you don't have permission to read, 2. files that have been deleted but some process still have them open, 3. lots of small files - the reported size may be a few bytes, but it really takes up a full block. | 19:48 |
| === Vito is now known as Vito_away | ||
| kdebooth | Tm_T: du | 19:56 |
| kdebooth | Tm_T: df has 800 megs free | 19:56 |
| kdebooth | ptomblin: I was root. I rebooted. Thats a lot of files | 19:57 |
| ptomblin | Ok, post your df and 'du | sort -n' | 19:58 |
| ptomblin | (Actually, I think floodbot will get upset unless you use a pastebin instead of posting them) | 19:58 |
| === jasmith is now known as someguy | ||
| === someguy is now known as sgdx | ||
| sgdx | Just installed Kubuntu 12.10 onto /dev/sda | 20:08 |
| sgdx | have 3 other sata disks, one of which is /dev/sdd1 | 20:08 |
| sgdx | I'd like to mount /dev/sdd1 and use it | 20:09 |
| sgdx | but created partition using KDE partition editor that came with 12.10 | 20:09 |
| sgdx | it mounts so only root users can write and use it | 20:09 |
| sgdx | tried udisks --mount /dev/sdd1 but it mounts same so only root users can write | 20:10 |
| sgdx | what the heck am I missing here? Google has not been all that friendly | 20:10 |
| kdebooth | ptomblin: What do you want the sort -n on ? | 20:13 |
| ptomblin | 'du | sort -n' | 20:13 |
| kdebooth | ptomblin: yes but on / ? | 20:14 |
| ptomblin | On the partition that you think is wrongly full. | 20:14 |
| kdebooth | ptomblin: Don't want a du -x ? | 20:14 |
| ptomblin | If the partition has other partitions mounted below it, then sure. | 20:14 |
| kdebooth | ok | 20:15 |
| dougl | I have a samba shared printer connected to my windows machine and when I print to it from 12.10 kubuntu asks me for a password... printer does not require password so I just click ok and the print job prints - How do I stop kubuntu from asking for a user and password for a printer that does not require it? | 20:27 |
| kdebooth | sgdx: Do you have it mounted in fstab | 20:28 |
| kdebooth | ptomblin: I'm coming this is taking a while | 20:35 |
| kdebooth | ptomblin: do you mind if I split it into two pastes? | 20:37 |
| ptomblin | Fine by me. | 20:37 |
| kdebooth | ok | 20:37 |
| kdebooth | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1366005/ | 20:38 |
| kdebooth | That's the first part let me give you the full output for the second one | 20:38 |
| kdebooth | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1366017/ | 20:42 |
| kdebooth | ptomblin: there you go | 20:42 |
| kdebooth | ptomblin: the first 16,000 or so files are all 0 size though they shouldn't be | 20:44 |
| ptomblin | you didn't get any permission errors? | 20:44 |
| kdebooth | Did it as root | 20:45 |
| kdebooth | all the commands there are done as root | 20:45 |
| ptomblin | ok, that's very odd | 20:46 |
| kdebooth | du -x / | sort -n | pastebinit | 20:46 |
| kdebooth | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1366017/ | 20:46 |
| kdebooth | is the output from the terminal | 20:47 |
| kdebooth | Course this machine has been doing strange things like apt-get returning as if it has done something when in fact nothing has been done | 20:47 |
| kdebooth | a lot of those are from linux-headers | 20:47 |
| kdebooth | Wonder if I can remove those | 20:47 |
| ptomblin | YEah, on my system, links like /etc/apt/preferences.d have some small space. | 20:48 |
| kdebooth | The Dirs should be 4 | 20:49 |
| kdebooth | the hardlinks should be 8 | 20:49 |
| ptomblin | And there's nothing in /var/log? Something should be shouting at you, either on the stderr or in /var/log/kern.log or /var/log/syslog | 20:50 |
| kdebooth | not seeing anything jumping out at me | 21:00 |
| ptomblin | weird. Have you tried fscking the disk? | 21:04 |
| ptomblin | "touch /forcefsck" and then reboot. | 21:05 |
| ptomblin | or just use "shutdown -rF now" | 21:06 |
| kdebooth | ptomblin: rebooting | 21:16 |
| kdebooth | It's mounting network filesystems | 21:28 |
| kdebooth | I've never setup any network filesystems | 21:28 |
| kdebooth | yay for bash regex expansion :) | 21:37 |
| kdebooth | ptomblin: so whats going on? | 21:39 |
| kdebooth | I'm removing the linux headers files and it's about a gig of space though it's reading them as 0 | 21:40 |
| ptomblin | With me, or with you? | 21:40 |
| kdebooth | du reads them as 0 | 21:40 |
| ptomblin | After fsck it's still reading as 0? | 21:40 |
| kdebooth | removiing them actually frees up space | 21:40 |
| ptomblin | what does "ls -l" tell you then? | 21:41 |
| ptomblin | Are the ones that du says are zero length showing as zero length with ls? | 21:41 |
| kdebooth | yes they are | 21:48 |
| ptomblin | I'm amazed fsck didn't fix that. Ok, at this point I'd suggest using smartctl to see if the disk is completely dying, and if not, reformat and reinstall. | 21:49 |
| ptomblin | Sorry, I wish I could suggest more, but it sounds like the file system is complete corrupt. | 21:49 |
| ptomblin | ^complete^completely^ | 21:51 |
| ptomblin | I've got to go feed my dogs, so I'm going AFK. Good luck. | 21:52 |
| kdebooth | Ok | 21:53 |
| kdebooth | Running smartctl | 21:53 |
| kdebooth | might as well start putting together a USB boot drive :) | 22:07 |
| mint_ | hello | 23:14 |
| TheLordOfTime | olleh | 23:14 |
| mint_ | HARO | 23:20 |
| artaeun | hi to all | 23:22 |
| artaeun | would somebody mind giving me a hand with a little problem i've got with booting up kubuntu? | 23:22 |
| artaeun | anybody? | 23:24 |
| artaeun | would somebody mind giving me a hand with a little problem i've got with booting up kubuntu? | 23:29 |
| === favelier is now known as favelier_ | ||
| favelier_ | CC | 23:33 |
| artaeun | would somebody mind giving me a hand with a little problem i've got with booting up kubuntu? | 23:34 |
| Tygart | artaeun: Please ask your question | 23:39 |
| Tygart | someone will try and get to it. | 23:39 |
| artaeun | startx won't start correctly. "no screens detected error". I have an IntelGMA 3600 GPU | 23:41 |
| artaeun | Tygart: thank you | 23:41 |
| Tygart | artaeun: :-) | 23:41 |
| === shumski is now known as shumski_out | ||
| xixor | howdy | 23:58 |
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