[14:06] blahdeblah: From memory you have played with mikrotik stuff. Just wondering if it's over complicated or ok to use. I'm tempted to get something like http://routerboard.com/RB2011UAS-2HnD-IN because I have a need for an 8 port switch and wifi would be handy. [14:10] (or anyone else for that matter) [21:09] head_victim: If you want a router, they're very flexible and good value. If you want a switch (especially if you want to do VLANs & stuff), they're not so good. [21:10] And keep in mind that those have 2 switches - 5 ports for Gigabit, 5 for 100 Mbps [21:10] It's not all just one big switch [21:10] The administration tool WinBox requires Windows, but runs well in WINE. [21:11] I haven't played with the wifi-capable units. [21:13] I'm a bit of a snob when it comes to wifi - i wouldn't consider anything that doesn't do 5 GHz