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uvirtbotNew bug: #1079941 in ceph (main) "-v version output is broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107994100:56
LauraAHi.  I'm on Ubu12LTS.  apt-get update; apt-get upgrade offers a "linux-server" upgrade that's "held back".  To accept that upgrade, but STAY ON 12LTS, is "apt-get dist-upgrade" the right command?  I'm a little confused by a comment Online: ""apt-get dist-upgrade" does not perform distribution upgrade".01:31
sarnoldLauraA: for 'apt-get dist-upgrade' to actually perform a distribution upgrade, you would need to manually edit your apt sources.lists to _ask_ for the different distribution.01:33
sarnoldLauraA: apt-get upgrade will not remove packages; dist-upgrade will remove packages if it thinks that is the shortest path to upgrading as many packages as possible.01:33
ScottKupgrade also won't add packages01:34
ScottKWhich is the specific issue in this case.01:34
LauraAsarnold: I *just* found that.  So if I did NOT changes those source, I'm always "safe" running apt-get dist-upgrade?  Or should I stick with just 'upgrade'?  I have a ZImbra server which runs on 12LTS.  I *must* stay on that distro version IIUC.  Trying NOT to mess up here.01:34
sarnoldLauraA: there are reasons why Ubuntu prefers the do-upgrade-manager (I think that's the name) over apt-get dist-upgrade when upgrading distributions, but when moving from e.g. quantal to raring in early stages of the raring distribution, dist-upgrade should work fine.01:34
sarnoldScottK: oh? cool.01:34
sarnoldScottK: I've got 'apt-get -u dist-upgrade' on my finger macros for a decade now, I tend to forget the other exists. :) thanks.01:34
ScottKLauraA: There is no risk dist-upgrade will move you to a later release.01:35
LauraAScottK: Ok.  So dist-upgrade, in effect, is just better at cleaning out trash ... at least in my current case?01:36
ScottKIn your current case.01:36
LauraAScottK: THanks a bunch!01:36
ScottKPersonally I prefer to just us upgrade unless something gets held back, then I dist-upgrade and pay close attention because packages are being added/removed.01:36
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ScottKFor kernel packages with an ABI bump, this is normal.01:37
* ScottK has to go.01:37
sarnoldsee ya ScottK01:38
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lvmerI recently copied over a bunch of pictures to my server & there were a bunch of 'thumbs.db' files from windows -_-     How do I search / delete all of these annoying files without hurting anything03:15
lvmer$ ls -al /mnt/lv1/public/pictures\ \&\ videos/* | grep thumbs.db03:16
lvmerreturns well over 250 files03:16
lvmerthey are embedded in many folders/directories after /public/03:17
qman__find /mnt/lv1/public//pictures\ \&\ videos/*03:17
qman__find /mnt/lv1/public/pictures\ \&\ videos/* -name thumbs.db -delete03:17
qman__make sure you try once omitting the -delete to ensure they're the right files03:17
qman__see also: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind03:18
lvmeryup I tested the find command first. Thanks I haven't used it yet. xD 9 days in :p03:18
lvmerqman_: thank you it worked beautifully.03:19
lvmerwhat do thumbs.db folders even do?03:19
lvmerno idea why these pictures I got from my mom's win7 had so many freaking thumbs lolz03:20
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zeroblu3hello11:08
zeroblu3can someone please help me?11:09
zeroblu3i'm on ubuntu 12.10 and it won't detect my hardware raid11:09
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vezqwhat is your hardware raid brand/model?13:03
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eagles0513875_hey guys I'm considering setting up some file shares is it possible to setup nfs to where it will require a username and password to access the share?17:48
melmotheagles0513875_, not that i am aware of.17:53
andoleagles0513875_: kerberos17:53
eagles0513875_:-/ what exactly are kerberos andol17:53
melmothkerberos is .... a (very) complicated authentication mechanism .17:54
andoleagles0513875_: Well, you can setup kerberos to require the username and password, and have nfs require a kerberos "ticket."17:54
eagles0513875_ok any good how to's as to kerberos is something entirely new to me17:54
andolhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kerberos17:54
andolYepp, there is definetly a threshold to get over if you want to use Kerberos.17:55
eagles0513875_andol: I am more then willing to learn :)17:56
eagles0513875_andol: would kerberos be a better alternative to using samba as a domain controller and radius authentication?17:56
andoleagles0513875_: Those options does not neccesarily exclude each other.17:57
eagles0513875_ok17:57
andolAnd since you mention Samba, Kerberos is one of the major componenent in the Windows AD.17:57
eagles0513875_ok17:58
eagles0513875_well reason I'm asking about authentication si that I'm setting up this dedicated server as a file sharing server for me my gf and her brother for music movies etc between us17:58
andoleagles0513875_: In that case Kerberos+NFS is overkill, especially if you have no previous experience with it. Also, if you will only be sharing media files you really don't need to precicely keep unix filesystem info that tightly.18:00
eagles0513875_andol: i prefer to just for a layer of security18:00
eagles0513875_is there no way to have ifs check username and password against the username provided and the password in the shadow file18:01
eagles0513875_i know that can be done with samba18:01
andoleagles0513875_: Well, assuming there will be both unix and windows computers connecting to it I would use Samba plain and simple.18:01
eagles0513875_linux windows and mac18:01
andolYepp, stick to Samba, especially since as I mentioned there really not being that much NFS advantage in the case of media files.18:02
eagles0513875_will do18:02
eagles0513875_hopefully the documentation i found on how to forge works18:02
eagles0513875_at least if it doesn't i have full control on reformatting18:03
eagles0513875_andol: I am guessing i should keep the users home directories separate from the rest of the system in case i need to reformat?18:04
andoleagles0513875_: Keeping /home on a separata partition is often a good idea.18:04
andolOf course, you will want to have the home direcotires backuped up no matter what :)18:04
eagles0513875_that is my next issue :-/ dunno to what18:07
eagles0513875_andol: mind if i poke you if i need help as I'm doing this18:08
andoleagles0513875_: Might as well ask the channel in general. Don't think I have touched Samba for three or four years so.18:11
eagles0513875_ok18:12
eagles0513875_andol: would something written for 12.10 be backwards compatible in terms of setup in 12.0418:13
eagles0513875_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n-vDVeyDCY <-- that is what i found not sure if its going to work but I'm going to give it a shot18:13
andoleagles0513875_: In nine times out of ten, or so.18:13
eagles0513875_ok I have nothing to loose at this point18:13
eagles0513875_here is my first oddity i have found in this how to is libcups2 necessary with samba??18:17
andoleagles0513875_: Samba also providers printer sharing capabilitlies, hence libcups.18:49
eagles0513875_i thought so but i don't find it useful to be honest18:49
andolMost programs contain feauture not everyone find useful.18:51
eagles0513875_won't i need the printer connected to the server anyway unless I'm using ipv6 ?18:51
eagles0513875_hey guys I am having trouble connecting to my file server via windows machine or mac machine i am using samba19:23
uvirtbotNew bug: #1078649 in ntp (main) "tzdata shows wrong date and no possibility to change it" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107864919:39
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