[01:31] <LauraA> Hi.  I'm on Ubu12LTS.  apt-get update; apt-get upgrade offers a "linux-server" upgrade that's "held back".  To accept that upgrade, but STAY ON 12LTS, is "apt-get dist-upgrade" the right command?  I'm a little confused by a comment Online: ""apt-get dist-upgrade" does not perform distribution upgrade".
[01:33] <sarnold> LauraA: for 'apt-get dist-upgrade' to actually perform a distribution upgrade, you would need to manually edit your apt sources.lists to _ask_ for the different distribution.
[01:33] <sarnold> LauraA: apt-get upgrade will not remove packages; dist-upgrade will remove packages if it thinks that is the shortest path to upgrading as many packages as possible.
[01:34] <ScottK> upgrade also won't add packages
[01:34] <ScottK> Which is the specific issue in this case.
[01:34] <LauraA> sarnold: I *just* found that.  So if I did NOT changes those source, I'm always "safe" running apt-get dist-upgrade?  Or should I stick with just 'upgrade'?  I have a ZImbra server which runs on 12LTS.  I *must* stay on that distro version IIUC.  Trying NOT to mess up here.
[01:34] <sarnold> LauraA: there are reasons why Ubuntu prefers the do-upgrade-manager (I think that's the name) over apt-get dist-upgrade when upgrading distributions, but when moving from e.g. quantal to raring in early stages of the raring distribution, dist-upgrade should work fine.
[01:34] <sarnold> ScottK: oh? cool.
[01:34] <sarnold> ScottK: I've got 'apt-get -u dist-upgrade' on my finger macros for a decade now, I tend to forget the other exists. :) thanks.
[01:35] <ScottK> LauraA: There is no risk dist-upgrade will move you to a later release.
[01:36] <LauraA> ScottK: Ok.  So dist-upgrade, in effect, is just better at cleaning out trash ... at least in my current case?
[01:36] <ScottK> In your current case.
[01:36] <LauraA> ScottK: THanks a bunch!
[01:36] <ScottK> Personally I prefer to just us upgrade unless something gets held back, then I dist-upgrade and pay close attention because packages are being added/removed.
[01:37] <ScottK> For kernel packages with an ABI bump, this is normal.
[01:37]  * ScottK has to go.
[01:38] <sarnold> see ya ScottK
[03:15] <lvmer> I recently copied over a bunch of pictures to my server & there were a bunch of 'thumbs.db' files from windows -_-     How do I search / delete all of these annoying files without hurting anything
[03:16] <lvmer> $ ls -al /mnt/lv1/public/pictures\ \&\ videos/* | grep thumbs.db
[03:16] <lvmer> returns well over 250 files
[03:17] <lvmer> they are embedded in many folders/directories after /public/
[03:17] <qman__> find /mnt/lv1/public//pictures\ \&\ videos/*
[03:17] <qman__> find /mnt/lv1/public/pictures\ \&\ videos/* -name thumbs.db -delete
[03:17] <qman__> make sure you try once omitting the -delete to ensure they're the right files
[03:18] <qman__> see also: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind
[03:18] <lvmer> yup I tested the find command first. Thanks I haven't used it yet. xD 9 days in :p
[03:19] <lvmer> qman_: thank you it worked beautifully.
[03:19] <lvmer> what do thumbs.db folders even do?
[03:20] <lvmer> no idea why these pictures I got from my mom's win7 had so many freaking thumbs lolz
[11:08] <zeroblu3> hello
[11:09] <zeroblu3> can someone please help me?
[11:09] <zeroblu3> i'm on ubuntu 12.10 and it won't detect my hardware raid
[11:13] <zeroblu3> heloo
[13:03] <vezq> what is your hardware raid brand/model?
[17:48] <eagles0513875_> hey guys I'm considering setting up some file shares is it possible to setup nfs to where it will require a username and password to access the share?
[17:53] <melmoth> eagles0513875_, not that i am aware of.
[17:53] <andol> eagles0513875_: kerberos
[17:53] <eagles0513875_> :-/ what exactly are kerberos andol
[17:54] <melmoth> kerberos is .... a (very) complicated authentication mechanism .
[17:54] <andol> eagles0513875_: Well, you can setup kerberos to require the username and password, and have nfs require a kerberos "ticket."
[17:54] <eagles0513875_> ok any good how to's as to kerberos is something entirely new to me
[17:54] <andol> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kerberos
[17:55] <andol> Yepp, there is definetly a threshold to get over if you want to use Kerberos.
[17:56] <eagles0513875_> andol: I am more then willing to learn :)
[17:56] <eagles0513875_> andol: would kerberos be a better alternative to using samba as a domain controller and radius authentication?
[17:57] <andol> eagles0513875_: Those options does not neccesarily exclude each other.
[17:57] <eagles0513875_> ok
[17:57] <andol> And since you mention Samba, Kerberos is one of the major componenent in the Windows AD.
[17:58] <eagles0513875_> ok
[17:58] <eagles0513875_> well reason I'm asking about authentication si that I'm setting up this dedicated server as a file sharing server for me my gf and her brother for music movies etc between us
[18:00] <andol> eagles0513875_: In that case Kerberos+NFS is overkill, especially if you have no previous experience with it. Also, if you will only be sharing media files you really don't need to precicely keep unix filesystem info that tightly.
[18:00] <eagles0513875_> andol: i prefer to just for a layer of security
[18:01] <eagles0513875_> is there no way to have ifs check username and password against the username provided and the password in the shadow file
[18:01] <eagles0513875_> i know that can be done with samba
[18:01] <andol> eagles0513875_: Well, assuming there will be both unix and windows computers connecting to it I would use Samba plain and simple.
[18:01] <eagles0513875_> linux windows and mac
[18:02] <andol> Yepp, stick to Samba, especially since as I mentioned there really not being that much NFS advantage in the case of media files.
[18:02] <eagles0513875_> will do
[18:02] <eagles0513875_> hopefully the documentation i found on how to forge works
[18:03] <eagles0513875_> at least if it doesn't i have full control on reformatting
[18:04] <eagles0513875_> andol: I am guessing i should keep the users home directories separate from the rest of the system in case i need to reformat?
[18:04] <andol> eagles0513875_: Keeping /home on a separata partition is often a good idea.
[18:04] <andol> Of course, you will want to have the home direcotires backuped up no matter what :)
[18:07] <eagles0513875_> that is my next issue :-/ dunno to what
[18:08] <eagles0513875_> andol: mind if i poke you if i need help as I'm doing this
[18:11] <andol> eagles0513875_: Might as well ask the channel in general. Don't think I have touched Samba for three or four years so.
[18:12] <eagles0513875_> ok
[18:13] <eagles0513875_> andol: would something written for 12.10 be backwards compatible in terms of setup in 12.04
[18:13] <eagles0513875_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n-vDVeyDCY <-- that is what i found not sure if its going to work but I'm going to give it a shot
[18:13] <andol> eagles0513875_: In nine times out of ten, or so.
[18:13] <eagles0513875_> ok I have nothing to loose at this point
[18:17] <eagles0513875_> here is my first oddity i have found in this how to is libcups2 necessary with samba??
[18:49] <andol> eagles0513875_: Samba also providers printer sharing capabilitlies, hence libcups.
[18:49] <eagles0513875_> i thought so but i don't find it useful to be honest
[18:51] <andol> Most programs contain feauture not everyone find useful.
[18:51] <eagles0513875_> won't i need the printer connected to the server anyway unless I'm using ipv6 ?
[19:23] <eagles0513875_> hey guys I am having trouble connecting to my file server via windows machine or mac machine i am using samba