/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/11/17/#ubuntu-za.txt

superflymorning sakhi :-)06:16
superflynuvolari: ping06:17
nuvolarisuperfly: pong06:17
Kiloshi superfly and others06:52
Kilosnote not supaflahh06:52
superflygood morning Kilos06:53
Kilosim not the nut she is06:53
Kiloslo Mzolisto 06:54
Kilosoh ya tumbleweed is there a way to get back the right click format function on 12.04 unity06:56
Kilosfor other plugged in drives etc06:56
Kilosand sticks06:56
tumbleweedKilos: sorry, not a unity user06:56
Kiloslol is it available on kde?06:57
Kilosi gotta use unity too so i can help tara06:57
tumbleweednor a KDE user06:57
Kilosoh my what do you use?06:58
Kilosand good morning to you too06:58
tumbleweeda weird mix of gnome-fallback and xmonad06:59
Kilosoh my06:59
mazalMorning everyone07:13
Kiloshi mazal 07:13
mazalGaanit oom Kilos ?07:13
Kilosok dankie en jy?07:13
Kilossukkel net met skywe reg maak wat venster vuilgoed gebreek het07:15
Kilosen n p4 wat ook daarvan siek is07:15
mazalRaasie baie nie dankie. Ai die windoze , het my dag ook swaar gemaak gister07:17
Kilosai07:17
mazalDaai server is sharp , maar die clients , no comment07:17
Kiloslol07:18
* mazal probeer op datum kom met sy rss07:23
Kilosi need to reboot to complete upgrade07:25
Kiloswbb hopefully07:25
nuvolarimôre oom Kilos 07:45
Kiloslo nuvolari hoe gaanit07:45
nuvolarigoed dankie en met oom?07:45
Kilosgoed dankie07:45
nuvolarimooi!07:45
nuvolaridis saterdag :>07:45
Kiloslol07:45
Kilosheli tyd?07:45
nuvolariek't met die klein goggatjie gevlieg nou07:46
nuvolarisal dalk vanmiddag gaan vlieg buite07:46
Kilosa07:46
Kilosek hou baie van die klank van daai klein engines07:46
Kilosjy sit petrol in ne?07:47
nuvolarinee ek't nie so een nie oom :P07:47
Kilosbaby bee of iets was hulle gewees07:47
nuvolariek't 'n battery-aangedrewe een07:47
Kiloso07:47
Kilossjoe batterye is swaar07:47
nuvolaridie Lithium-Polymer batterye het nogals groot krag in hulle oom07:48
nuvolariso hulle is nie so swaar nie07:48
Kilosa nou leer ek weer nog iets07:49
nuvolarihulle is wel relatief gevaarlik07:50
nuvolaridaar is altyd brand-gevaar 07:50
nuvolariek het gelukkig nog nie sulke probleme gehad nie07:51
Kilossjoe07:51
Kiloshi Squirm 08:20
Squirmhello08:21
Squirmsorry for all that flooding I did08:22
SquirmI think our host was DDoS'd08:22
Kilosi wasnt here so missed it but you forgiven anyway. the guys know you wont do it aspris08:23
Kiloson purpose08:23
Squirmjust wasn't anything I could do about it :/ Couldnt connect to my box08:24
Kiloseish08:37
mazalNou's die kombuis ook sommer skoon :P08:45
Kiloslol09:01
nuvolarimazal: wat is jou diens-tarief? :P09:01
Kiloswhats this calibration area error of brasero09:02
Kiloshttp://slexy.org/view/s20Ba6BBQQ09:02
Kilosi wanna put kubunt on a dvd because the usb stick adds more and more09:04
Kiloshi magtie 09:33
nuvolarioom Kilos why do you want to do that?09:38
nuvolarikeeping it on the usb means if you do stuff running from the USB and saving something, it will be available next time.09:39
Kilosbecause i got kde on stick but it remember that i didnt get nm working so doesnt even show the option to connect to 3 g09:39
Kilossigh09:39
nuvolariooh09:39
nuvolarinot a bootable USB?09:39
Kiloslol so i want a basic install with nothing remembered09:39
Kilosya09:39
nuvolarimeh, I'm not sure how one should proceed. It's been ages since I wrote to a DVD :P09:40
Kilosbrasero normally does it with no prob09:41
Kiloson maverick anyway09:41
Kilosi dont know if there is perhaps something extra i must install09:42
Kilosgrr09:42
Kiloswb superfly 10:35
superflysilly freenode10:35
Kiloshehe10:37
nuvolari:-/ production support sucks10:40
nuvolariI can't take the stress :P10:40
nuvolariok, going te the shops quick. bbiab10:41
mazalWhat's the command to kill a task ?11:36
nuvolarikill11:36
nuvolari:P11:36
Kiloshehe11:36
nuvolariforce-kill is kill -911:36
nuvolarithere's also a killall11:36
mazalI'm trying to kill thunderbird in terminal11:36
nuvolariand xkill if you just want to zap it with a cursor11:36
mazalBut doesn't want to work11:36
Kilosthere is a program called force quit11:37
Kilosdunno if later ubuntu's have it though11:37
mazal"arguments must be process or job IDs"11:37
nuvolarimazal: if you have a process ID and kill doesn't work, use kill -9 PID11:37
mazalSo I can't give the name thunderbird ?11:37
Kilosit puts an icon inna panel then you tick it and tick what you wanna kill11:37
mazalI'm writing a backup script and want it to kill thunderbird when it starts11:38
mazalBut process id will be different everytime , so wanted to use the name11:39
nuvolarimazal: kill -9 1234511:39
nuvolarioh, process name11:39
nuvolarido you have the proccess name?11:39
nuvolariI think you can then use killall process-name-here11:40
mazalHow can I see the process name ?11:40
nuvolarips aux | grep thunderbird11:40
nuvolariwill give you more info about the running thunderbird process(es)11:41
mazalmazal     3038  0.1  1.0 936872 166392 ?       Sl   09:11   0:22 /usr/lib/thunderbird/thunderbird11:42
mazalmazal     4210  0.0  0.0  13588   916 pts/2    S+   13:40   0:00 grep --color=auto thunderbird11:42
nuvolarithe first one is your thunderbird process11:43
nuvolariwonder why it's running from /usr/lib :?11:43
mazalI added the whole path to the kill command but don't work11:44
nuvolarimazal: kill or killall?11:53
mazalkill11:53
nuvolariafaik you can provide process name to killall, but kill requires the process id11:54
mazalAh !!!!!!!!!11:55
mazalThanx man :)11:55
nuvolariossum :>11:55
nuvolariis it working?11:55
mazalManually yes , will see now in the script11:56
mazalYes it works :)11:57
nuvolarigreat11:57
mazalNoe just a little crontab11:58
Kilosyou okes too clever12:43
superflymazal: it is better to use "kill" than "kill -9" if you want the app to exit properly12:58
superflyin the case of TB, you may find your mail inaccessible because TB didn't have a chance to tidy up behind itself when you killed it with -912:59
mazalsuperfly, I use kilall on it now13:04
magespawnafternoon all13:10
magespawnanybody know anything about cpanel?13:10
Kiloshi magespawn 13:10
magespawnhey Kilos13:11
superflymagespawn: a little13:14
magespawni am looking at MyIT CRM and one of the install steps requires cPanel to set up the MySql database13:15
magespawnsurely i could just set up a new databse?13:15
magespawndatabase 13:15
magespawncPanel is just a control panel isn't it?13:17
Banlammagespawn13:19
Banlami know cpanel13:19
Banlamwhat do you need to do?13:19
magespawnBanlam see above13:20
Banlamyou want to setup a MySQL databse?13:21
Banlamyou just scroll down to databases on your cpanel homepage13:21
Banlamand click MyQLDatabases 13:21
Banlamcreate a user, create a database, assign user to database13:21
magespawnthe MyIT CRM requires me to install cpanel to set up its MySQL database, which seems a bit strange13:22
Banlamoh13:22
magespawni want to just set up the database13:22
Banlamyou shouldn't have to, if you can do it from phpmyadmin, or the console13:22
magespawnthats what i thought, but wanted to check first13:22
magespawncPanel licence is expensive13:23
Banlamwith my shared hosting, i can't create databases or users from phpmyadmin, so i have to do it through cPanel13:23
magespawnthis is all going on to a pc in my shop, so i can do pretty much anything13:24
magespawnincluding wreck the thing and start again lol13:24
Banlam:)13:25
Kilosis there a link to watch the rugby online from aus guys13:55
Kilostheir foxtel not showing sa and scotland live so tara shking 13:55
Kilosshaking too14:00
Vince-0i use myp2p14:02
Vince-0have to do some digging - what time is the match14:02
Kilospretty soon Vince-0 \14:21
Kiloswhats myp2p14:21
Kiloscan she get it there in aus14:21
mazalHoe laat skop hulle af ? Sal maar op radio 2000 luister14:24
Kilos5 minute14:24
Kilosif you can stream youtube you can stream rugger too14:25
Kilos?14:25
Kilosright14:25
Kilosthey singing anthems now14:26
mazalHave tuned in14:28
Vince-0scotland/SA :14:40
Vince-0http://www.rojadirecta.me/goto/www.castalba.tv/channel/1159814:40
Vince-0http://www.liveflash.tv/wdcvfgtgtyujkgerery#www.rojadirecta.me14:40
Vince-0expect ads, 14:40
Vince-0look for the small X box14:40
Kilosty Vince-0 14:50
mazalThanx Vince-014:54
magespawnI am out of here, enjoy the rugby. cheers14:56
Kilostoods magespawn 14:56
Vince-0quality feed!15:02
Vince-0scot commentators are great15:02
mazalFirst time ever I watch rugby on internet15:19
Vince-0pirate feeds ftw, and broadband15:44
Vince-0there's also watchseries 15:44
Vince-0but its messy and popups15:44
FrankkoMay i ask a non ubuntu related question?16:11
Frankkoor is it strictly prohibited?16:11
FrankkoI was reading up on currency unions, and south africa has a close relationship with Swaziland and Lesotho with the Swaziland pound or what it is called pegged to the ZA Rand. And rand accepted legal tender in both countries, does ZA venues accept Swazi and lesotho currencies as well?16:14
Frankkoor is it a one way street16:14
Tonberrynot that I have ever heard of16:14
Tonberryits a one way street with namibia16:15
Frankkois it like the Euro in sweden? Not accepted unless large amounts, or in the border towns16:15
Frankkoeuro coins in sweden is not legal tender.16:15
Tonberrymaybe one or two smaller places close to the border would accept it16:15
Frankkooh ok.16:16
Tonberrybut there is no requirement16:16
Tonberryyes not legal tender here16:16
FrankkoTonberry: thankyou for helping me understand16:16
Frankkobut as it is pegged to the rand, there would be no loss in sales, right?16:16
Frankkoin terms of PP16:17
Tonberryi think the admin would just be too much of a pain16:17
Tonberryi don't live close to any of those borders so i've never really thought about it16:17
Frankkoyeah i get that.. considering that many people work in ZA that are not natives (in the broader term) do they get payed in rand or in their currency of where they commute from?16:18
Tonberryi would assume rand since getting other currencies would be quite a hassle16:19
Frankkoswedes that work in demark, norway and finland mostly only accept payment in SEK (swedish currency) as fluctuations in the norwegian and danish krona, as well as the euro might make the salaries worth a lot less back at home.16:20
FrankkoAs the swedish krona is a lot more stable than we would like16:21
Frankkoinflation is a problem, not our inflation but our neghbours and trade partners. The USD has gone from a 11SEK high to a 6SEK now. The euro from 12SEK to 8SEK..16:22
Frankkoif working in finland that is a large % pay drop16:22
Frankkoand the SEK has lost value against gold and other materiasl, but soo much less than the mentioned other currencies.16:23
Tonberryi have to disappear now, dinner and all16:24
FrankkoHow does ZA counter the value of the rand to the gold price, as ZA is perhaps the largest gold exporter.16:24
Frankkook. no problem16:24
FrankkoZA is such an interesting country. 16:26
Kilosinetpro, whats happening with them weeds16:52
Kilossudo aptitude purge weeds16:55
Kiloshi hubx 17:11
Kiloswbb17:11
hubxhi :)17:13
Kilosnuvolari, k3b burned the kde iso for me17:20
Kilosdunno what was brasero's prob17:20
mazalYou going to kde Kilos ?17:22
Kilosi have been on kde for a while. thought id give it a try17:23
Kilosi have one drive with unity and one with kubuntu17:23
Kilosboth 12.0417:23
mazalWhy not just add kde to your main install ?17:24
Kilosyou mean dual boot?17:25
mazalNope17:25
Kilosi actually have 12.04 install with unity then installed kubuntu-full17:26
mazalYou can add any of the desktops with sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop etc.17:26
Kilosbecause i couldnt get kde to see my modem17:26
Kilosno i believe in apartheid17:27
Kiloshehe17:27
mazallol17:27
Kilosdidnt want unity to mess with kde or vice versa17:27
mazalPersonally my second choice was Xubuntu , better than kde17:28
mazalI was on that for a while when Unity started17:28
mazalWas pretty happy with it17:28
Kilos11.04 xubuntu put me off17:29
Kiloshad lotsa hassles17:29
mazalI can't even remember what version I used17:29
Kiloskde isnt that bad17:29
Kilosjust takes getting used to17:29
Kilosbetter than unity in lotsa respects17:30
mazalKubuntu was very buggy with me17:30
Kilosonly didnt have sound in xchat otherwise its good17:30
mazalxchat has sound ?17:30
Kilosya man dodo17:31
Kilossettings17:31
Kilosalerts17:31
zerefgnome-shell gnome-shell gnome-shell17:32
* zeref runs17:32
Kilostick all 3 in top 2 rows and last 2 in last 2 rows17:32
Kiloshehe17:32
Kilosi go eat17:32
Kiloswbb17:32
mazalzeref, is that normal gnome 3 ?17:34
zerefyep17:34
mazalDon't really know it17:35
zereffor me it's awesome. very simple.17:36
zerefwhen i first started using linux, i was all about configuring17:36
zerefnow i just want a comp that works17:37
mazalI know the feeling , I want as few hassles as possible17:37
superflythat's why I use KDE. :-P17:38
zerefyeah, I've not installed a single gnome-extemsion17:39
superflyhaving said that, I'm considering moving to debian with kde17:39
mazalIs it true that debian is difficult and not user friendly ?17:39
zerefnot really17:39
mazalI've read that just to get it installed is a mission17:40
zerefnooit17:40
zerefvery easy17:40
zerefI'll be moving to debian as well soon17:41
mazalDon't like ubuntu anymore ?17:41
nuvolarimeh. why is everyone jumping ship now? I wanted to do that some time ago :P17:42
nuvolaribut then features won't be cutting edge :-/17:42
nuvolarinot that I worry about that any more17:42
zerefnah I'll use debian testing17:44
zerefvery similar to the 6 mont releases17:44
zerefs/mont/month17:44
Vince-0there's pear and mint17:48
Vince-0the big deal is the guis - i like a workable dock bar17:49
Kiloslol at the fly17:50
Kilosill stay with ubuntu as long as i can then go tinycorelinux17:52
mazalI don't really want to start learning from scratch again , so will stay17:52
mazalTook me too long to learn ubuntu17:52
Kilosubuntu be lekker man17:52
Kiloswhat happened to trixie17:53
Kilosoh my17:53
Kilosslitaz crashed?17:53
zerefmazal: from ubuntu>>debian17:54
zerefnot that much learning17:54
Kilosdebian has deb-delta that works17:55
Kilosso 80% less data downloaded17:55
mazalbtw oom Kilos , I see that I use xchat-gnome , that's prob why I don't have sounds17:56
Kilosnee man thats the wrong one17:57
Kilosgnome xchat sucks17:57
mazalhhehehe17:57
Kilossudo aptitude install xchat17:57
Kilosthe fly told me to get xchat like 100 years ago17:58
Kilosbut he uses quassel17:58
mazalLemme put that on quick17:58
Kilosthen you can get xchat-blinklight i think its called17:59
Kilossjoe17:59
Kilosall gone17:59
Kiloswb mazal 18:01
KilosMaaz, coffee on18:01
* Maaz washes some mugs18:01
mazalLooks much the same18:01
Kilossimilar18:02
Kiloslike a ferrari and a fiat uno18:02
Kilosgot 4 wheels18:02
Kiloshave you got the panels left and right18:02
mazalOptions are very different though18:02
mazalMore options18:03
Kiloschannels left and nicks on the right18:03
mazalYep18:03
Kilosok settings preferences18:05
Kilosalerts18:05
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!18:05
mazalI've already done it :)18:05
Kilosxchat must bloep when your nick mentioned18:05
KilosMaaz, ty18:05
MaazYou are welcome Kilos18:05
Kilosmazal, hi18:05
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mazalno bloep18:06
Kilosdoes it bloep you?18:06
Kilosuh oh18:06
Kilosnee man xchat works18:06
Kilosjust not in kubuntu18:06
Kiloswhat you done wrong18:06
* mazal shrugs18:07
Kilosoh try install um18:07
Kilosum18:07
Kiloser\where is neil18:07
* Kilos cries18:07
Kilosinstall mplayer18:07
mazalAlready installed18:07
Kiloshe had to do that18:07
Kilosoh my18:08
mazalNo wait18:08
Kiloshave you got synaptic?18:08
Kiloshi smile4ever 18:08
mazalLooks like I didn't add it in this install18:08
smile4everhi Kilos :)18:09
mazalNo I was right , it is installed already18:09
mazalHi smile4ever 18:09
smile4evermazal: Have you slept well? :)18:10
mazalYep thanx and you smile4ever  ? ;)18:10
smile4everyeah :D18:11
* smile4ever did much homework today :)18:11
mazalWhat did you work on ?18:11
Kilosmazal, didnt it say you gotta restart xchat18:12
mazalNope18:12
Kilostry it18:13
mazalThe pop-up messages in the indicators works , just not the beep18:13
Kiloswb mazal 18:14
Kilosstill nothing?\18:14
mazalNow the pop-up messages also don't work lol18:14
smile4evermazal: Website, maths :p18:14
Kilosthey work when you somewhere else18:14
mazalsmile4ever, I used to like algebra , but hated the rest18:15
Kilosoh i asked have you got synaptic mazal 18:15
mazalSo I must minimize first ?18:15
Kilosno man18:15
Kilosbe on another workspace18:15
Kilosyou only use 1?18:16
mazalYep18:16
Kiloseish18:16
Kilosactually i think there is an #xchat channel18:16
Kilosyou on 12.04 or 1018:17
mazal0418:17
mazal10 is terrible18:17
Kilosjust tell them18:17
Kiloslol18:17
Kiloslemme see if there be such a channel18:17
smile4evermazal: lol :p18:18
Kilosya 145 peeps there18:18
mazaloi18:18
Kilostell them your xchat in 12.04 has no sound in alerts18:18
smile4everI'm in the last degree of my secondary school, so it's advanced already :P18:18
smile4everlast degree => last year18:18
mazalMy head hurts just thinking of studying18:19
Kiloslol18:19
Kilosmazal, /j #xchat18:19
mazalJig I didn't like it at all hey , always left my homework till the last minute18:19
Kilosits their job to help with xchat probs18:20
* mazal gonna take break first18:20
Kiloscareful what you break18:21
mazalIs ok , I got backups lol18:21
Kiloslol18:21
Kiloswow hard to believe xchat has no sound in unity18:21
smile4everKilos: neither ChatZilla does :(18:22
Kiloseish18:22
smile4evermazal: what are you today these days? :)18:22
smile4everwhy the sound isn't working? :s18:22
Kiloshe hasnt had it in xchat18:22
Kilosdidnt know there is sound18:22
smile4everoh i see ;)18:31
mazalib18:31
smile4everA friend of mine hasn't got sound in ChatZilla (which for sure does have sound) & xchat (of which i'm unsure)18:31
mazalsmile4ever, I don't quite understand that question ?18:32
smile4evermazal: Well, I would like to have sound in ChatZilla :)18:33
Kilosoops power gone18:33
smile4everor xchat18:33
Kiloswill be back when power returns18:33
Kilosbe good18:33
mazalK oom Kilos 18:34
mazalI wonder if uninstalling xchat-gnome would help18:37
Kilosany luck mazal 18:57
mazalNope18:58
Kiloseish i cry when i cant hear bloeps18:58
Kilosits called bell.ogg18:58
mazalBut , I see in the settings under "sounds" there is alot of sound settings and a sounds folder18:58
smile4everhttps://sourceforge.net/p/notepad-plus/bugs/4065/ :o18:58
mazalI don't even have such a sounds folder18:59
Kilosoh ya you can set it to use external sounds too18:59
Kilosjust point it to bell.ogg18:59
Kilossearch its there19:00
mazalThere is no sound files19:00
mazalThere is no sound folder19:00
Kiloswait i look19:00
Kilostype bell.ogg in dash19:00
Kilosmaybe if you open it you will see its path19:01
mazalnothing19:01
mazalI think that must be added extra it seems19:01
mazalBut I dunno how19:01
Kilosoh my goodnes what havent you installed19:01
Kilosmaybe in pulse files19:01
mazalI even checked if there is a xchat-sounds package or something , but nothing of that sort19:01
Kiloshave you got alsa19:01
Kilosyou havent removed any pulseaudio files?19:02
mazalNope19:02
Kilosoh my19:02
mazalDidn't add or remove any audio stuff19:02
Kiloshey have you got synaptic19:02
mazalyep19:03
Kilosthird time im asking19:03
Kilosopen and type xchat19:03
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mazalThat's where I checked and made sure I installed everything of xchat19:03
mazalIt has 3 packages , xchat , xchat-common and , xchat system indicator19:04
Kilosno man not everything19:04
Kiloskill the gnome one19:04
mazalAlready did19:04
Kilosoh ya19:04
KilosMaaz, google no alerts sound in xchat on 12.0419:05
MaazKilos: "Llovizna: Installing xchat-gnome from the source, on Ubuntu 12.04 ..." http://kkpradeeban.blogspot.com/2012/07/installing-xchat-gnome-from-source-on.html :: "Shallow Thoughts : : programming" http://shallowsky.com/blog/programming/index.html :: "Modify Ubuntu - Ubuntu 12.04 Tips/Tricks" http://modifyubuntu.com/ :: "QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Beta2 -19:05
MaazUbuntu Wiki" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Beta2 :: "QuantalQue…19:05
Kilosai19:05
Kilosmaybe the xchat peeps will have an idea soon19:06
Kilosthey still not answered19:06
mazalIt seems to me that the sounds is not added by default19:07
Kilosit always works for me19:07
Kilosonly neil had to install mplayer19:07
mazalDo you have that sounds folder ?19:07
Kilosmine works without mplayer even'19:08
mazal/home/username/.xchat2/sounds ?19:08
Kilosya in home i think19:08
mazalMine only has a scrollback and a logs folder19:09
Kilosno must be a sound one too19:09
Kilosbut its empty but points to bell.ogg19:09
mazalWhich setting points to bell ?19:10
Kilosmine has 2 folders and 9 files19:10
mazalWhich event19:11
Kilossound.conf19:11
Kilossudo aptitude purge xcha19:12
Kilosxchat19:12
Kilosthe sudo aptitude install xchat19:12
Kilosyou carrying bugs from the gnome thing19:12
Kilostheres a notify.conf too19:13
Kilosbut they got nothing in19:14
Kilosor hidden stuff19:14
mazalBoth my sound.conf and notify.conf is empty files19:14
Kilosmine too19:14
Kilosthey never have anything inside them19:15
mazalWhere do you see the bell.ogg setting ?19:15
Kilosbut if you dont have bell.ogg then it cant play19:15
Kilossjoe we hunted for days19:16
Kilosask inetpro 19:16
Kiloslemme see if i can find a path19:16
Kiloswhere is the search tool in unity19:17
Kilosthe bell.ogg file opens with rythmbox19:18
Kilosrhythmbox19:18
mazalAg is ok oom Kilos , I'll try again on another day19:18
Kilosmaybe you aint got that19:18
mazalIs moeg nou19:18
Kilosok lekker slaap19:18
Kiloshehe19:18
Kiloswould bug me19:19
mazalIs not that important to me19:19
Kiloswe will find it somethime19:19
Kilosjust see you got rhytmbox installed19:19
Kiloswhew that hard word to spell19:20
mazalWe will beat it on another day ;)19:20
Kilosok19:20
mazalLekker slaap oom Kilos 19:20
Kilosill try find where bell.ogg is19:20
mazalSleep well everyone19:20
Kilosnag seun19:20
mazalHave a blessed evening19:21
inetproso superfly, maybe we should just start a debian-za channel, or does it even exist?19:32
superflyinetpro: debian doesn't have locos19:32
inetprowe can always start them?19:33
smile4everdoei :p19:33
inetprobtw, good evening to everyone19:33
inetprobut perhaps we should just do the community thing as part of glug19:34
smile4evergood night :)19:34
inetprosmile4ever: goeie nag19:34
smile4everdankie! :)19:34
Kiloslo inetpro 19:35
Kilosanswer19:35
inetprowill be a sad day when superfly is no longer part of ubuntu-za19:35
superflyinetpro: since when am I leaving?!?!19:35
inetprolol19:35
inetprosuperfly: I was just thinking ahead19:36
Kilosgrrr19:36
Kilosstop it you two19:36
Kilosyou going nowhere19:36
inetproKilos: he wants to use debian19:36
Kilosyes i saw but he will always be here19:36
inetproahh, ok19:36
inetpro:-)19:36
Kilosand you as well19:37
inetproKilos: hoe gaan dit?19:37
Kilosso whats happening with grass/weeds19:37
Kilosgoed dankie en jy?19:37
* inetpro should perhaps also try debian kde for a change19:37
inetproKilos: they dying slowly19:38
Kilosas well man not for a change19:38
Kilosyay19:38
Kilosmagic poison that19:38
inetprobut I need t repeat some places where I clearly missed them, I think19:38
Kilosthey only die when it gets to the roots19:38
inetproneed to repeat19:38
Kilosyes dont let any seed19:38
inetpromany had seeds already19:39
Kilosyou will still get new ones yearly though. the seeds can lie for 7 years till things are good for them19:39
inetproso I guess I shall still spend some time killing the stuff for good over next two years19:40
Kilosi think its seven19:40
inetprosjoe19:40
Kilossome other weeds seeds can lie 20 years till things good like plowing in19:40
inetproKilos: now that is some good motivation19:40
inetpro:-(19:40
Kilosonkruid19:41
Kilosno man 2 years and you will have them19:41
Kilosnext year spray early19:41
Kilosim not sure if seeds there already still grow19:41
inetproI want to get some topsoil when I have a bit of moola19:42
Kilossjoe make sure it isnt also fulla weed seeds19:43
inetprothink I need to treat the lawn with some 2-3-2 and topsoil19:43
Kilosjust try first with lan/kan19:43
inetproya but it must get into the ground19:44
Kilosand make an area where you burn all dead branches and grass etc and sprinkle the ash on lawn and water in19:44
inetprohow do I do that on the lawn?19:44
Kiloslan/kan waters in19:44
inetproah19:44
Kilosits the potas that doesnt19:45
inetprook19:45
Kilospnp 19:45
inetpronext month19:45
Kiloslast be must be dug in19:45
Kiloslas p19:45
Kilossjoe19:45
Kiloslast p19:45
Kilosfirst 2 are water soluble19:45
inetprook19:45
Kilosbut ash is good19:46
inetprothat's the thing19:46
Kilosnatures way of feeding the veldt19:46
inetproI think I need some potash19:46
Kilosexpensive i think19:46
inetprosadly19:46
Kilosdolomitic lime is also good19:47
* inetpro will take it a step at a time19:47
Kilosdont you have lotsa dead branches etc19:47
inetpromany19:47
Kilosany wood ash is good19:47
inetproyou burn then?19:47
Kilosthats how the big boss feeds the veldt19:48
Kilosya fire19:48
inetprohmm... ok19:48
Kilosand ash on lawn and plants and veggies garden19:48
Kiloswaste not want not19:48
inetproKilos: where's tara?19:49
Kiloshavent you noticed how lekker the veldt grows after a fire19:49
Kilossleeping19:49
Kilosstill battling19:49
inetprohmm... time to wake up19:49
inetproalmost 719:50
inetprosun must be shining already19:50
Kilosya but they watched rugby till 2 or 3 am19:50
inetprosjow19:50
Kiloslol19:50
Kilosthey rugby mad19:50
* inetpro didn't watch19:50
inetprowhat happened?19:50
Kiloswe beat the scots 21/1019:51
inetproahh, mooi!19:51
Kilosbut play was not up to standard19:51
Kilosi put kubuntu on a dvd19:54
Kilosthe stick remembering stuff is no good19:55
Kilosunless you get first install right'19:55
inetproKilos: I'm not sure but I think there is a way around that19:55
Kilosanyway i go sleep now19:55
Kilosoh19:55
inetproyou can make it not remember 19:55
inetprobut I have not tried it, yet19:56
Kilosoh where it said something about 1g to remember settings or something19:56
Kiloswill have a look sometims19:56
Kilostime too19:56
Kilosnight guys sleep tight19:56
inetproKilos: even then you should be able to make it read only19:56
inetprogoeie nag oom19:57
Kilosstill nou man19:57
Kiloslol19:57
Kilossee yous morrow or so19:57
Kilosbe good19:57
diplodokhi22:04
diplodokwhat is the temperature in south africa now22:04
diplodok?22:04
Banlamwhereabout22:05
Banlamand you mean, right now22:05
Banlamin the middle of the night22:05
diplodokBanlam: generally22:05
Banlamany specific area?22:05
Banlambut it's going inot summer22:05
diplodokBanlam: i have a flight to south africa in tuesday22:05
Banlamso it's warming up22:05
Banlam+20s are to be expected most days22:06
diplodokBanlam: you have a summer now?22:06
Banlamyip22:06
Banlamit's the southern hemisphere22:06
Banlamthat's how the earth works :)22:06
diplodokBanlam: i know. i was there many times :-)22:06
Banlam.pl, is that poland?22:06
Banlam:)22:07
diplodokBanlam: yes22:07
Banlamcool, had any snow lately?22:07
Banlamor still waiting for winter to really hit in22:07
diplodokBanlam: so far no, but we are expecting some snow. temperature now is around 022:07
Banlamnice22:07
Banlamdiplodok, where in SA are you going to be staying? Joburg?22:08
diplodokBanlam|;how about seaside, is there strong winds in this part of the year? i will join the vessel in cape town22:08
Banlamcape town, good choice22:09
Banlamalso, join the vessel, sounds epic22:09
Banlamthere can be strong winds22:09
diplodokBanlam: i was there. in south africa i was in johanesburg, durban and cape town22:09
Banlama few weeks ago there were some hectic winds22:09
Banlambut in general there'll be  alight wind22:10
diplodokBanlam: in capetown yopu have beautiful landscape. those mountains straight from the sea are great !!22:10
Banlam:) no arguing from my side22:10
diplodokBanlam: nice place for this part of the year :-)22:11
Banlamfor sure22:12
Banlamif i may ask, what 'vessel' will you be joining?22:12
diplodokBanlam: better than in Poland now22:12
diplodokBanlam: container ship22:12
diplodokBanlam: i have to conduct that vessel to vietnam, to deliver it to new owner22:12
Banlamthat's qutie a voyage22:12
Banlamquite*22:12
diplodokBanlam: three weeks at sea22:13
Banlamwhere has the ship come from?22:13
diplodokBanlam: then i will take money to my pocket and  will back home22:13
Banlam:P22:13
diplodokBanlam: to be at the christmas time at home22:13
diplodokBanlam: from Angola22:14
Banlamok22:14
Banlamand home is poland?22:14
diplodokBanlam: she was in constant service between luanda and cabinda22:14
diplodokBanlam: yep22:14
Banlami had to google cabinda22:14
diplodokBanlam: it's angolan city22:15
Banlamso i see :)22:15
diplodokBanlam: ok... i have to go. many thanks for help!22:16
Banlamno problem, safe sailing22:16
Banlamdo you guys hug the coast22:16
Banlamor cut straight acrtoss the indian?22:16
diplodokBanlam: it depends how second officer will plan a route22:17
Banlamok, well watch out for the pirates22:17
diplodokBanlam: fou shure strait acros the ocean22:17
diplodokBanlam: but i don't know details. eg. if will be close to mauritius and reunion22:17
Banlamok, no pirates then22:17
Banlamkk22:17
diplodokBanlam: i'm not so shure regarding to the pirates, somalis probably not but we will sail through the malacca strait and there are also pirates22:18
Banlamok22:18
diplodokfrom sa to malacca strait, then singapur strait and southeren china sea22:18
Banlamexciting22:19
diplodokbut ofcourse most bad is area close to somali coast22:19
diplodokBanlam: ok... thanks and bye :-)22:20
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